Thanks for the videos. I'm building an electric bike soon using a 1500w BMC motor. The thing I'm having trouble with is finding a quality freewheel crank setup. I don't know anything about building one and definitely don't want to spend the over 400 dollars Boosty is selling theirs for.
@thisisaguy What sprocket/chain pitch are you going to be using.. The only site I know of selling a freewheel arm and system is cycloneusa. and from them you'll be looking at around 100$ plus tax. If you do it yourself you could save 25-50$ but you'll need a welder
@luc59457 Thanks for the info. No welding. Anything I do is going to need to be bolt on or bolt together. My main concern is that it will handle the abuse the motor will put on it.
As far as sprocket and chain and those details, I'm not sure yet. I'm still just planning it all out. I have speed and acceleration goals in mind. I'm not trying to break records but I plan to use the bike as a commuter; I need it to be more than capable in 35-45 mile per hour traffic (illegal, yes, but nm that.)
@thisisaguy If you go with cyclone, yes it will be strong enough for a 1500w.Even my design is strong enough,but you cannot possibly bolt the axle cup to the arm. CycloneUSA have it already machined. What is the sprocket pitch you are going to use for that?The 4 bolt pattern freewheel has the same hole pattern as the #25 sprockets.If you use a different pitch sprocket, you may need the 5 hole freewheel or drill holes carefully. Different sprockets must be the same ID as the #25 to fit freehweel
@luc59457 Actually, while searching around today, I found a site called cyclone-e-bike.tw. They sell a two chain, crank freewheel set for similar setups as yours. They sell a dual 1200w kit which uses the crank set so I would think the freewheel is plenty strong for my purposes. There is a video on YouTube of a guy riding this setup much faster than I would ever want to go. It might be a gamble to order from Taiwan but for under 100 bucks it might be worth it. It's exactly what I'm looking for.
@T3hRipPeRr Never has, it has only stretched.. The way it is positioned and where it is located, there is a very small chance that will ever happen, if it even snaps. It has came off the large bottom sprocket before but it will just spin freely when that happens. It would have to snap and you would notice it and have to change it well before it ever stretches to that point.
@T3hRipPeRr It's a rather strong chain for it being so small (there's even a high quality version which I don't use) I give it that, I have pulled a fair amount of weight with it at 50+km/h many time (you should see one of my videos pulling a trailer), so I know how strong the chain is. But I am also careful when accelerating at under 10km/h
@BRONGOHORST The motor needs electricity to run through it's coils to create magnetism against the magnets which creates motion. Do you know of a better way? I think batteries are getting better and better, I think you should look into it.
@BRONGOHORST I've seen that a long time ago. and yes there are moving parts. The shaft spins with the device, spinning is what you call, Moving. The magnets simply move towards other set of magnets which makes a forward motion. For the size of that, you are not getting much extra energy out considering energy is needed to close the loop in order to get center shaft spinning. All been debunked, nothing special. AN electric Eel will provide more power than that.
@BRONGOHORST Magnets are not permanent forever energy. High quality neodymium magnets will have around 100 years of steady magnetism in good climate and up to 400 years before completely depleted. The sun lasts much longer than this and provides more than any device ever shown with magnets.Once you put a load on the devices that you've seen spinning, they quickly slow down,even 300w would be too much for that device to keep spinning.Concentrated solar can provide Kilowatts, through steam
@BRONGOHORST Not not anyone can make a motor with a battery. Many people know how to connect a motor with a battery. Not many people know how to connect the whole system up which consists of more than the motor and battery, along with that, I have a designed gear system on this.
@BRONGOHORST I've seen versions of this that use electricity to power a coil behind a magnet, and it is more efficient than what you showed. It uses electricity 40% of the time, only to reverse magnets polarity on 40% of the time, to other 60% is the electricity off where the magnets normal magnetism and polarity does the rest. Nonetheless, put a load and you will not get much. Power a car, charge batteries to power a car, you will need LOTS of these!
@BRONGOHORST Fully electric is the best along with complimentary power plants to charge them. We can save on batteries for Semi-tractor trailers, where these big trucks can be powered by concentrated solar steam engines, with trough mirrors and aerodynamic plastic domes air cleaned by movement of vehicle. The steam engines would need to provide around 74 000w peak or around 100hp peak. This would be 400-500hp if it were gas. The troughs provide around 300C, which heat oil inside pipes..
@BRONGOHORST ..The oil is circulated naturally by the heat to a thermal tank inside the trailer. On top of the tank is a container where water flows proportionately onto, through a variable pump. This allows flow to be consistent with the temperature of the oil aka: how fast water turns into steam. So it is always steam. The exhaust steam is circulated back using another small pump. Oil can be heated for a few hours to get hot and stay hot for a good hour of driving.
@BRONGOHORST A 75kw Generator is located within which is over 100lbs in weight, but these trailers can handle such weight. WIth everything included, it comes up to under 1000lbs and no batteries required, just direct electricity when the sun is out, and for a period of time when the sun is not out. Typically this would be better in consistently sunny areas, not for night use, but electricity can also be used to heat an element for at night, to jump start. Either way, saves LOTS of crude oil!
@BRONGOHORST I also like the idea of natural gas / electric hybrids. Natural gas has one of the highest heat losses so that heat loss can be used to power Tegs (thermoelectric generators) which can be used to power the accessories so the accessories don't have to be sucking power our of the engine.
@BRONGOHORST Using natural gas also takes a more harmful gas which displaces oxygen, which is a more potent greenhouse gas, and coverts it into Co2 which trees can actually use.. You also get less of the other contaminants that petroleum and diesel would produce.
@BRONGOHORST These batteries are not the best. Yes, battery can be good, they reduce the amount of emmissions to get around either way and they reduce the spreading of emmissions. Your comment is vague. It's all a matter of the materials used and the potential.
@BRONGOHORST Depends what you mean by good. Also, these batteries are so cheap they end up paying for themselvs for the life they give, the difference in charge costs vs what would otherwise be fill-up costs for fuel end up paying for the batteries
@BRONGOHORST For the overall distance, with charge costs included with battery price VS average fuel costs for the same distance on a similar strength system.
this bike sucks . hub motors are way better and faster and it way easy. but yeah nice bike. all i want to know is who you gear it but i bet you pay for that. it's an ok bike i would ride it but hub motors are the best no mater what hands down .
@No666Respect Your comment was so retarded LMAO.. Such a contradiction. As for one being better than the other, both have advantages and disadvantages, I would not consider any one better than the other. I have experience with both Hub and gear drive motors.
@No666Respect One example, of a disadvantage for hubs is you usually need the higher voltage to get more rpm. Gear drive motors are often naturally higher rpm for its voltage.
@luc59457 Can you show us where to buy the parts so we can make the same thing? I really like your bike. Are you still riding it ? Any problems so far?
seems fast when it's off the ground. definitely no torque i can tell you that... don't know if it can break 10mph if the rubber actually meets the road?
@daddyrog4485 You are from Hong Kong, This Motor is from China. It is called a Currie. Apparently it is discontinued according to U.S.A retail, but maybe they are still manufacturing it down there, if you can find out let me know.
@daddyrog4485 Not anything quite like this any more. I know, those were the good days. Seems it has been discontinued everywhere, what a shame. Hopefully something new and better will come out for this kind of price, otherwise I may start to wonder what's going on with the electric transition!
Please look at all the YouTube videos of magnet motors and you will find better designs that are very simple. I hope someone will get a small business loan and start building these things and sell them to homeowners for like $500 each so they can power their home or car or tractor or whatever. What a brilliant business to get into.
Incredible bike! Can someone please give me some tips about bikes? I'm wanting to get either an electric or motor bike to get around faster but don't know which to get. Electric bikes I hear don't go very fast but save $ over time and motor bikes are hard to build and require a lot of upkeep yet can fly down the street like the one in the video. I'm not rolling in $ but I've saved up some for a good one. I don't know which to get, can someone give me advice? Thanks!
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@epoxycock Yes! that is true but not relevant in electric motors at all.... Cause they have such enormous torque compared to gaspowered engines. A 1000W electric motor is equal to a 5-6HP petrol diesel methanol or what have you, Torquewise that is, and that is what gives the punch 4 anyone who knows just a little bit of engines... HP i just the end product on top-RPM´s anyway. Thats why a 200hp dieselmotor is way better than 200hp gasolinemotor. cause the amount of torque.
@luc59457 - Yes, we will go through several chains, sprockets and gears, shred tires and, without thorough care, we can even burn out the motors or batteries... those of us may not want to go 120+ m.p.h. or so on a bicycle for long distances but it is surely guaranteed that as hobbyists we are in for some serious, high-speed, all-out fun!
I have a Mini 40 Mile Busettii bike and it runs 50-55 miles on one battery charge. I also tried my friends Vortex Mountain bike by Busettii. It ROCKS ! Can get up to 32 mph top speed, and on one charge that bike set the new record of 86 miles. Hope it becomes a big hit. In California many people like Busettii because they cost around $1700 but can go 50--86 miles on one charge depending on model. Maria in Cali
@frithwks I agree, I think Other countries should be looking at it more thoroughly, it is also not hard or that expensive to add safe electric chargers at gas stations. I've seen a vehicle that could charge in 15 minutes to travel 200kms. So a company like Subaru could profit well here by leasing at good prices. Never the need to transport electricity with big trucks. It's way faster and better. It encourages the demand for new power plants.
@frithwks It's really money that's the issue.. A company that is widely selling oil will rather do this than invest in initial costs for a gradual non-shocking transition. If it happens all at once, many will not be able to afford it.. Ev's are currently known to be for the well off or rich.. This reality is changing.. Once and If something like the Subaru G4e becomes under 10k$ initially, then the industry will really be able to brag.. For the meanwhile, I can brag about this vs gas.
@mrfarmerjimbob Yes and No. Yes, because part of the law includes the speeds along with all other criteria which matches, other than motor rating. So you ride your bike at the proper speeds and not much faster, there is no reason for anyone to bother with you. You are not riding a motorcycle here. No because: The motor rating is too high and when you speed, this makes reason to believe so. Riding slower is more efficient anyways.
@mrfarmerjimbob There use to be a supplier for the motor (without gearbox) Now I can only find the one with the gearbox, which is quite a bit more expensive and is noisier. This one use to go for only 109USD
In China this is completely normal and common. At any intersection in the morning in any Chinese city, you'll see hundreds of electric bikes. One day the rest of the world will catch up :-)
@toranamunter That's exactly what needs to happen, and more. Within the next 100 years is pushing it.. It has been pushed off for long enough already.
@jenniesboy For this setup and performance you will not get something much less than 1000$... If you live in the USA you can do this in the 900$ range with basic batteries and bare. For this kind of performance, complete e-bikes range between 2-3 thousand dollars. You can get some low performance ones for around 300.
lol probably faster then most car on the highway !(not for long tho!)law of physic still apply .but i wonder how far you can go if you locck it at 5 mph.
@drbaltazar At 5mph should get at least 40 miles. I get around 20 miles distance, new batteries at around 20mph, with a couple small hills in the ride.
@yomichmoud Not Everyone wants to pedal "all the time" aka: use bikes normally, particularly the elder and if you carry luggage from shopping etc, or longer than average distances, which would otherwise be transported in many cases by a gas powered vehicle. A gas powered vehicle requires more parts and emits constantly when on. Furthermore has a much lower efficiency rating, especially here. The engines emissions and parts processed have less impact on the environment than gas powered engines.
I want to see it ramped up to 72V or 96V with two motors for drives on the frame and one hub motor! fast , powerful and with long range(economy) and performance modes! corporate abuse to not produce these bikes/ motorbikes already for cheap
@mellifluouschinook Well, you see, we get a lot of our crap from China. Not too organized, when rare earth materials can be harnessed here. For the around 72v,I am pretty much stuck with Lipo's or lifep04.They get pretty expensive in the higher voltage with amps. I like to stay a reasonable voltage in balance with current, 48 would be ok, but 36 is my motors rating.I could put two of these motors, that would be insane!Thicker chain would be required.There's a limit to what u want to go on these.
@mellifluouschinook I also cannot ramp up the voltage because there is no existing sprocket size to account for the ratio required for that kind of rpms. I do not want extremely long gears. I like them the way they are now.
This is pretty cool. That motor must have a lot of power, but have you tried gearing the bike for the high rpm nature of the electric motor. It seems like a waste to be hitting 40 kph in first. I mean I can't tell from seeing this alone, but I doubt that this bike would sustain at speed quite as high as you showed with any significant load. None-the-less, congrats! It's cool to see things like this. BTW what kind of battery is that?
I'm in the research phase of building my own and the only thing that is stumping me is how do you get the gears in between the pedals to spin while the pedals stay stationary? :S
@milespapineau I have some videos of disassembling the old sprockets from the pedal arm for these ones. These ones are bolted to a freewheel which screws onto an axle cup. You need half of the pedal arm, the side which the sprockets are on. You have the axle cup welded to the end of the arm, but the arm must be trimmed down flat and slightly shorter. This is the cheaper, longer way of doing it. Plus you have to be sure of alignment. Cyclone sell the arms, with the threaded piece attached to one.
@luc59457 Also, this is not the current ratio. It would not be good for the motor to use this one. I use a much better gear ratio now. See later videos to see.
@milespapineau buying the pedal arms from cycloneUSA is the fastest way and inquiring with them beforehand to ensure it will work with the cone size on the frame you have. This is much simpler. All you have to do now is buy the rest of the parts (2 sprockets and freewheel which screws onto pedal arm) from electricscooterparts.You put your parts on, then you tightenin your 2nd pedal. First one on the left already in. Matching pair.
You can get all kinds of kits. I have 2 different ones on my channel. But there is a wide range. You can google e-bike kits or electric motor kits and you will find all kinds of companies. If you have specifics send me a personal msg of your requirements.
It will always have its main functionality, but if not maintained, freewheel could loose half of its capabilities and you won't be able to pedal until you clean it. This is another reason a guard would assist.
It would cost About 1000$ Completed, in the USA. Depending on where you live - give or take. With standard and safe, Sealed Lead acid Batteries. Unfortunately, the motor seems to be discontinued for a period of time. I have not been able to find it on the 2 sites it was usually at. Perhaps it may be sold somewhere else.. I will keep looking and add updates if I find anything.
If you hit a major bump at real speed with that crappy frame, it will crack in two and your face will become dust (once the shredded bits dry out). Take care.
@giantbluemarlin: Comments like yours are so predictable and stupid... LOL! I have ridden on very horrible roads at "FULL" speed. No sign of damage at all.. I inspect thoroughly.
wow, thats amazing, but i dont think that it has enough torque to bring such performance during a ride on the street when a driver with 70 or 80 kg sits on it, has it. I'm not into this topic but i can not imagine that this bike really goes 120 mph, but as it sounds I think 40 mph could be possible, and this would be really fast, for example faster than the most motorscooters
Precisely... It will Do around 40mph tops which is good enough for me. I would never imply that this does 120mph on road, that would be rediculous... 40mph on this small motor on road is impressive. Plus the motor only costed 109$. On first sight most people would not think it goes that fast.
Not going to happen around here, at least not any time soon.. Laws prohibit it. You can DIY, or buy part(s) of the bike completed, that has already been done. It can be sold without batteries, because it is non-functional.. The user will have to buy and connect the batteries.
The ratio has been changed, this one was too much speed not enough torque on road. Still awesome to show before we changed it.. It still spins pretty fast on the latest ratio, off the ground, but maybe half as much as this. If the motor was strong enough first gear would have made it to around 60km/h.. The ratio is borderline now, it has a very nice average road speed - Around 60km/h. First gear goes to about 40km/h.
The Nameplate rating is 1000w 36v 32amps. It seems to be discontinued at one place unsure of the others. These batteries are 18Ah. I would not go less than that for this system
@zobraman33 I would also like to add for the viewers, BatteryMart have "very similar" sized battery as these at 22AH for longer travel time. at 44$USD each if you buy 4 or more. It has excellent ratings too. I am soon upgrading to 20Ah, I just discovered this battery yesterday. I'll stick with the 20ah though since I can buy it nearby.
Ok on your night run you did 60kmph roughly this is 35mph I thought you were doing 60 mph and thought how the hell he took that turn so fast.
We use to ride our bikes off the bridge and didn't have a speed o meter but we were hauling ass and could not turn the bike until we slowed down the tires are not that good at gripping very little contact. These are extreme speeds for a mountian bike look for cracks on the frame hate to hear of a failure due to exceeding specs. Please be safe HELMET etc?
I have checked the frame over periods of time.. I wouldn't push much faster than 60km/h prolonged, I have not noticed any changes in the frame I live on relatively rough roads also. Yes, I use helmet for sure. I usually ride slow.. I enjoy around 32-40km/h.
Please.. what motor is that and where can i find one? I've had enough of ICE's and making my first bike. Is the motor something i can find in a salvage yard. Since this is my first i don't want to invest to heavily.. with experience i definitely plan move up to sturdier vehicles.
Thanks for the videos. I'm building an electric bike soon using a 1500w BMC motor. The thing I'm having trouble with is finding a quality freewheel crank setup. I don't know anything about building one and definitely don't want to spend the over 400 dollars Boosty is selling theirs for.
thisisaguy 2 months ago
@thisisaguy What sprocket/chain pitch are you going to be using.. The only site I know of selling a freewheel arm and system is cycloneusa. and from them you'll be looking at around 100$ plus tax. If you do it yourself you could save 25-50$ but you'll need a welder
luc59457 2 months ago
@luc59457 Thanks for the info. No welding. Anything I do is going to need to be bolt on or bolt together. My main concern is that it will handle the abuse the motor will put on it.
As far as sprocket and chain and those details, I'm not sure yet. I'm still just planning it all out. I have speed and acceleration goals in mind. I'm not trying to break records but I plan to use the bike as a commuter; I need it to be more than capable in 35-45 mile per hour traffic (illegal, yes, but nm that.)
thisisaguy 2 months ago
@thisisaguy If you go with cyclone, yes it will be strong enough for a 1500w.Even my design is strong enough,but you cannot possibly bolt the axle cup to the arm. CycloneUSA have it already machined. What is the sprocket pitch you are going to use for that?The 4 bolt pattern freewheel has the same hole pattern as the #25 sprockets.If you use a different pitch sprocket, you may need the 5 hole freewheel or drill holes carefully. Different sprockets must be the same ID as the #25 to fit freehweel
luc59457 2 months ago
@luc59457 Actually, while searching around today, I found a site called cyclone-e-bike.tw. They sell a two chain, crank freewheel set for similar setups as yours. They sell a dual 1200w kit which uses the crank set so I would think the freewheel is plenty strong for my purposes. There is a video on YouTube of a guy riding this setup much faster than I would ever want to go. It might be a gamble to order from Taiwan but for under 100 bucks it might be worth it. It's exactly what I'm looking for.
thisisaguy 2 months ago
@thisisaguy Please come back and let us know your review if you decide to buy from them. Thanks.
luc59457 2 months ago
1:12 WTF!!!
alfa70000 4 months ago
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Battle1993Fan 4 months ago
its awesome but when that bike chain breaks off it will split you in two at high speed.
T3hRipPeRr 5 months ago
@T3hRipPeRr Never has, it has only stretched.. The way it is positioned and where it is located, there is a very small chance that will ever happen, if it even snaps. It has came off the large bottom sprocket before but it will just spin freely when that happens. It would have to snap and you would notice it and have to change it well before it ever stretches to that point.
luc59457 5 months ago
@T3hRipPeRr It's a rather strong chain for it being so small (there's even a high quality version which I don't use) I give it that, I have pulled a fair amount of weight with it at 50+km/h many time (you should see one of my videos pulling a trailer), so I know how strong the chain is. But I am also careful when accelerating at under 10km/h
luc59457 5 months ago
@luc59457 good to hear that :) chains sometimes can be dangerous.
T3hRipPeRr 5 months ago
@T3hRipPeRr Nah...only your legs. =)
TheSelfGoverned 5 months ago
@TheSelfGoverned rofl
luc59457 3 months ago
FREE ENERGY IS GOAL..
Anyone can make motor with battery.
But make permanent motor without charging is challenge.
BRONGOHORST 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST The motor needs electricity to run through it's coils to create magnetism against the magnets which creates motion. Do you know of a better way? I think batteries are getting better and better, I think you should look into it.
luc59457 6 months ago
@luc59457
I`m TALKING ABOUT ABSOLUTE PERMANENT FOREVER ENERGY.
NO BATTERY.NO OUTSIDE ELECTRIC.MOTOR WHO PRODUCES MORE ENERGY THAT SPEND.
MAGNETIC MOTOR PENDEREV KAPANDZA
Steven Mark solid state generator - no moving parts
BRONGOHORST 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST I've seen that a long time ago. and yes there are moving parts. The shaft spins with the device, spinning is what you call, Moving. The magnets simply move towards other set of magnets which makes a forward motion. For the size of that, you are not getting much extra energy out considering energy is needed to close the loop in order to get center shaft spinning. All been debunked, nothing special. AN electric Eel will provide more power than that.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Magnets are not permanent forever energy. High quality neodymium magnets will have around 100 years of steady magnetism in good climate and up to 400 years before completely depleted. The sun lasts much longer than this and provides more than any device ever shown with magnets.Once you put a load on the devices that you've seen spinning, they quickly slow down,even 300w would be too much for that device to keep spinning.Concentrated solar can provide Kilowatts, through steam
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Electricity is a current and a voltage
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Not not anyone can make a motor with a battery. Many people know how to connect a motor with a battery. Not many people know how to connect the whole system up which consists of more than the motor and battery, along with that, I have a designed gear system on this.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST It does not need a lot of rpm to close that loop, but it needs more force than what is given at the shaft.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST I've seen versions of this that use electricity to power a coil behind a magnet, and it is more efficient than what you showed. It uses electricity 40% of the time, only to reverse magnets polarity on 40% of the time, to other 60% is the electricity off where the magnets normal magnetism and polarity does the rest. Nonetheless, put a load and you will not get much. Power a car, charge batteries to power a car, you will need LOTS of these!
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST You would be surprised the torque needed just to get to 300w! Try with your legs!
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Fully electric is the best along with complimentary power plants to charge them. We can save on batteries for Semi-tractor trailers, where these big trucks can be powered by concentrated solar steam engines, with trough mirrors and aerodynamic plastic domes air cleaned by movement of vehicle. The steam engines would need to provide around 74 000w peak or around 100hp peak. This would be 400-500hp if it were gas. The troughs provide around 300C, which heat oil inside pipes..
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST ..The oil is circulated naturally by the heat to a thermal tank inside the trailer. On top of the tank is a container where water flows proportionately onto, through a variable pump. This allows flow to be consistent with the temperature of the oil aka: how fast water turns into steam. So it is always steam. The exhaust steam is circulated back using another small pump. Oil can be heated for a few hours to get hot and stay hot for a good hour of driving.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST A 75kw Generator is located within which is over 100lbs in weight, but these trailers can handle such weight. WIth everything included, it comes up to under 1000lbs and no batteries required, just direct electricity when the sun is out, and for a period of time when the sun is not out. Typically this would be better in consistently sunny areas, not for night use, but electricity can also be used to heat an element for at night, to jump start. Either way, saves LOTS of crude oil!
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST I also like the idea of natural gas / electric hybrids. Natural gas has one of the highest heat losses so that heat loss can be used to power Tegs (thermoelectric generators) which can be used to power the accessories so the accessories don't have to be sucking power our of the engine.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Natural gas also burns much cleaner than petroleum, cleaner than bio-diesel
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Using natural gas also takes a more harmful gas which displaces oxygen, which is a more potent greenhouse gas, and coverts it into Co2 which trees can actually use.. You also get less of the other contaminants that petroleum and diesel would produce.
luc59457 6 months ago
Imagine yourself in DESERT.
I want car or bike it can run without any charging. For 100 years.
Like TESLA Car.Tesla invented limitless energy without batteries and recharging.
Everything that depend of others is not good.
BRONGOHORST 6 months ago
GOOD BICYCLE.
Not good is BATTERY.
Make same BUT without charge and without battery.
This is goal.
BRONGOHORST 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST These batteries are not the best. Yes, battery can be good, they reduce the amount of emmissions to get around either way and they reduce the spreading of emmissions. Your comment is vague. It's all a matter of the materials used and the potential.
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST Depends what you mean by good. Also, these batteries are so cheap they end up paying for themselvs for the life they give, the difference in charge costs vs what would otherwise be fill-up costs for fuel end up paying for the batteries
luc59457 6 months ago
@BRONGOHORST For the overall distance, with charge costs included with battery price VS average fuel costs for the same distance on a similar strength system.
luc59457 6 months ago
this bike sucks . hub motors are way better and faster and it way easy. but yeah nice bike. all i want to know is who you gear it but i bet you pay for that. it's an ok bike i would ride it but hub motors are the best no mater what hands down .
No666Respect 6 months ago
@No666Respect Your comment was so retarded LMAO.. Such a contradiction. As for one being better than the other, both have advantages and disadvantages, I would not consider any one better than the other. I have experience with both Hub and gear drive motors.
luc59457 6 months ago
@No666Respect One example, of a disadvantage for hubs is you usually need the higher voltage to get more rpm. Gear drive motors are often naturally higher rpm for its voltage.
luc59457 6 months ago
@No666Respect Now go watch your Alexjones, if you talk like that, I doubt you are able to read between the lines with him.
luc59457 6 months ago
i wish i had that bike i want to go fast like that
bigdady2700 6 months ago
@bigdady2700 Why wish when you can plan and make it happen
luc59457 6 months ago
@luc59457 Can you show us where to buy the parts so we can make the same thing? I really like your bike. Are you still riding it ? Any problems so far?
adobian06 6 months ago
only need a pair of wings
4mulas 7 months ago
seems fast when it's off the ground. definitely no torque i can tell you that... don't know if it can break 10mph if the rubber actually meets the road?
dellam04 7 months ago
Muito bom o video amigo, parabéns !!
violeiro38 7 months ago
@violeiro38 Muito obrigado, satisfeito que gostei!
luc59457 7 months ago
@luc59457
daddyrog4485 7 months ago
@daddyrog4485 You are from Hong Kong, This Motor is from China. It is called a Currie. Apparently it is discontinued according to U.S.A retail, but maybe they are still manufacturing it down there, if you can find out let me know.
luc59457 7 months ago
@luc59457 Where can buy a motor like that??? i can't seem to get it anywhere these days
daddyrog4485 7 months ago
@daddyrog4485 Not anything quite like this any more. I know, those were the good days. Seems it has been discontinued everywhere, what a shame. Hopefully something new and better will come out for this kind of price, otherwise I may start to wonder what's going on with the electric transition!
luc59457 7 months ago
@luc59457 Golly, How many languages do you know? English, Portugeese....maybe French?
kdc43 7 months ago
@kdc43 Yes
luc59457 7 months ago
AWESOOOME .....BOOM lol
Video85Man 8 months ago
Please look at all the YouTube videos of magnet motors and you will find better designs that are very simple. I hope someone will get a small business loan and start building these things and sell them to homeowners for like $500 each so they can power their home or car or tractor or whatever. What a brilliant business to get into.
stusalitusbrian 8 months ago
@stusalitusbrian will need a strong source for the strong load to power your home, would need at least a 5kw motor
luc59457 8 months ago
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Incredible bike! Can someone please give me some tips about bikes? I'm wanting to get either an electric or motor bike to get around faster but don't know which to get. Electric bikes I hear don't go very fast but save $ over time and motor bikes are hard to build and require a lot of upkeep yet can fly down the street like the one in the video. I'm not rolling in $ but I've saved up some for a good one. I don't know which to get, can someone give me advice? Thanks!
Zegeebwah 9 months ago
:D:D:D: LOL ...that orange reflex thing has been sublimated :D
OnnomonnomonnO 9 months ago
Thats do bomb
I too built a EV with a same bolt pattern Currie motor.
Im upgrading
nja2015 11 months ago
@nja2015 right on
luc59457 11 months ago
Nigga fuck you dont know shit about bikes
Mickyski 11 months ago
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@Mickyski shut up you stupid black bastard
ihatemuckdjs 9 months ago
That's great fantastics. But how did you do to the pedal does not rotate?
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Thanks merci
14RC670 1 year ago
@14RC670 freewheel
luc59457 11 months ago
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Excellent piece of work!! Thank you very much for Sharing!!!!!
What a way of meeting people and get to see their talent. At first was reluctant being on youtube, but getting to do this has brought me into the houses of some very special people. You are one of them. Life; isn't it wonderful!!! Keep up the good work. Hope You Are Having A Splendid Day!!!!
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erickdircks 1 year ago
perfect and i like it
69NovaMs 1 year ago
@69NovaMs Thanks!
luc59457 1 year ago
It may be fast with no load but 1000W is only 1.33 Horsepower.
epoxycock 1 year ago
@epoxycock That's only what the motor is rated at. The Controller can send around 3600w into it momentarily. That's around 4.8Hp in that tiny motor.
luc59457 1 year ago
@epoxycock And the motor is actually rated at 1152 but the websites say it is 1000w. 36v x 32amps.
luc59457 1 year ago
@epoxycock Yes! that is true but not relevant in electric motors at all.... Cause they have such enormous torque compared to gaspowered engines. A 1000W electric motor is equal to a 5-6HP petrol diesel methanol or what have you, Torquewise that is, and that is what gives the punch 4 anyone who knows just a little bit of engines... HP i just the end product on top-RPM´s anyway. Thats why a 200hp dieselmotor is way better than 200hp gasolinemotor. cause the amount of torque.
ghost500e 1 year ago 6
@ghost500e correct
luc59457 11 months ago
damn this thing is so sketchy its awesome.
WhiteGravey 1 year ago
@luc59457 - Yes, we will go through several chains, sprockets and gears, shred tires and, without thorough care, we can even burn out the motors or batteries... those of us may not want to go 120+ m.p.h. or so on a bicycle for long distances but it is surely guaranteed that as hobbyists we are in for some serious, high-speed, all-out fun!
AAVista 1 year ago
@frithwks Sounds interesting... Battery technology has came a long way also.
luc59457 1 year ago
Oh, sorry, I didn't see the "kills the reflector" part in my browser. Thanks again!
willdex01 1 year ago
I bet is fast but your bike looks like a washing machine from the back
corravid 1 year ago
@corravid I don't know what world you come from, but I never seen a washing machine with a bicycle tire in the back ;)
luc59457 1 year ago
I apologize if this was answered before, but what was that popping sound at the very end (I hope no one got hurt)?
willdex01 1 year ago
@willdex01 That popping sound is explained in the video Title.
luc59457 1 year ago
I have a Mini 40 Mile Busettii bike and it runs 50-55 miles on one battery charge. I also tried my friends Vortex Mountain bike by Busettii. It ROCKS ! Can get up to 32 mph top speed, and on one charge that bike set the new record of 86 miles. Hope it becomes a big hit. In California many people like Busettii because they cost around $1700 but can go 50--86 miles on one charge depending on model. Maria in Cali
angel64879 1 year ago
I find it funny on this video there is an AD to gas powered bikes: ww(dot)giobikes(dot)com
luc59457 1 year ago
how much? I want one.
glitchyt 1 year ago
I hope u will replace the 160 mm mechanical disc brakes for something bigger and more powerfull.
SeanBioX 1 year ago
@SeanBioX I don't need to change it, it does its job and it does it well.
luc59457 1 year ago
what the hell .....
WusSaBY88 1 year ago
@frithwks I agree, I think Other countries should be looking at it more thoroughly, it is also not hard or that expensive to add safe electric chargers at gas stations. I've seen a vehicle that could charge in 15 minutes to travel 200kms. So a company like Subaru could profit well here by leasing at good prices. Never the need to transport electricity with big trucks. It's way faster and better. It encourages the demand for new power plants.
luc59457 1 year ago
@frithwks It's really money that's the issue.. A company that is widely selling oil will rather do this than invest in initial costs for a gradual non-shocking transition. If it happens all at once, many will not be able to afford it.. Ev's are currently known to be for the well off or rich.. This reality is changing.. Once and If something like the Subaru G4e becomes under 10k$ initially, then the industry will really be able to brag.. For the meanwhile, I can brag about this vs gas.
luc59457 1 year ago
maybe a little bit too fast that thing could send you on the highway to heaven when its in 5th gear
Gram13000 1 year ago
can i have the exact part list. motor name, sprockets, and anything else you use to make it. please and thank you
Grimmjowking 1 year ago
@moomee237 It was changed
luc59457 1 year ago
That wheel better be 100% balanced if your going to go THAT fast lol
BlankBox7 1 year ago
2 questions--is that thing street-legal? & where can I get one?
mrfarmerjimbob 1 year ago
@mrfarmerjimbob Yes and No. Yes, because part of the law includes the speeds along with all other criteria which matches, other than motor rating. So you ride your bike at the proper speeds and not much faster, there is no reason for anyone to bother with you. You are not riding a motorcycle here. No because: The motor rating is too high and when you speed, this makes reason to believe so. Riding slower is more efficient anyways.
luc59457 1 year ago
@mrfarmerjimbob There use to be a supplier for the motor (without gearbox) Now I can only find the one with the gearbox, which is quite a bit more expensive and is noisier. This one use to go for only 109USD
luc59457 1 year ago
In China this is completely normal and common. At any intersection in the morning in any Chinese city, you'll see hundreds of electric bikes. One day the rest of the world will catch up :-)
toranamunter 1 year ago
@toranamunter That's exactly what needs to happen, and more. Within the next 100 years is pushing it.. It has been pushed off for long enough already.
luc59457 1 year ago
Can you give me the exact pieces and costs. It would be much appreciated
Grimmjowking 1 year ago
increible ! very good 1
SuperInvestigacion 1 year ago
Please watch:
THE WORLD'S SIMPLEST TRANSMISSION for BICYCLE
TABAGfrancis 1 year ago
Whats it cost to do something like this?
jenniesboy 1 year ago
@jenniesboy For this setup and performance you will not get something much less than 1000$... If you live in the USA you can do this in the 900$ range with basic batteries and bare. For this kind of performance, complete e-bikes range between 2-3 thousand dollars. You can get some low performance ones for around 300.
luc59457 1 year ago
lol probably faster then most car on the highway !(not for long tho!)law of physic still apply .but i wonder how far you can go if you locck it at 5 mph.
drbaltazar 1 year ago
@drbaltazar At 5mph should get at least 40 miles. I get around 20 miles distance, new batteries at around 20mph, with a couple small hills in the ride.
luc59457 1 year ago
I loved how the gears changed. Sick bike!!!
obadboystanley 1 year ago
Wow. you can make a tire go fast! How about a real world test with someone on it.
fxtrader92 1 year ago
@fxtrader92 Check my Channel front page by clicking on my name. I will put one up showing its average, just for you.
luc59457 1 year ago
the engine dont help environment as if you use a bikes normally
yomichmoud 1 year ago
@yomichmoud Not Everyone wants to pedal "all the time" aka: use bikes normally, particularly the elder and if you carry luggage from shopping etc, or longer than average distances, which would otherwise be transported in many cases by a gas powered vehicle. A gas powered vehicle requires more parts and emits constantly when on. Furthermore has a much lower efficiency rating, especially here. The engines emissions and parts processed have less impact on the environment than gas powered engines.
luc59457 1 year ago
@yomichmoud you just got owned.
coolerow 1 year ago
now-
I want to see it ramped up to 72V or 96V with two motors for drives on the frame and one hub motor! fast , powerful and with long range(economy) and performance modes! corporate abuse to not produce these bikes/ motorbikes already for cheap
mellifluouschinook 1 year ago
@mellifluouschinook Well, you see, we get a lot of our crap from China. Not too organized, when rare earth materials can be harnessed here. For the around 72v,I am pretty much stuck with Lipo's or lifep04.They get pretty expensive in the higher voltage with amps. I like to stay a reasonable voltage in balance with current, 48 would be ok, but 36 is my motors rating.I could put two of these motors, that would be insane!Thicker chain would be required.There's a limit to what u want to go on these.
luc59457 1 year ago
@mellifluouschinook I also cannot ramp up the voltage because there is no existing sprocket size to account for the ratio required for that kind of rpms. I do not want extremely long gears. I like them the way they are now.
luc59457 1 year ago
Please watch:
THE WORLD'S SIMPLEST TRANSMISSION for BICYCLE
TABAGfrancis 1 year ago
niceeeeee bikee mann haha i got a 2010 Realm DXR 98cc how many cc`s you got?
97xXSEANxX97 1 year ago
This is pretty cool. That motor must have a lot of power, but have you tried gearing the bike for the high rpm nature of the electric motor. It seems like a waste to be hitting 40 kph in first. I mean I can't tell from seeing this alone, but I doubt that this bike would sustain at speed quite as high as you showed with any significant load. None-the-less, congrats! It's cool to see things like this. BTW what kind of battery is that?
thepetleg 1 year ago
@thepetleg Yes, definitely changed the ratio, see later videos, and speed tests are shown with latest ratio.
luc59457 1 year ago
fire hub :D
adach80 1 year ago
Wow, really excellent - congratulations,and good continuation in your job.
You can also see on YouTube,the assembling my electric bike. Thanks
jeanlucvar 1 year ago
I'm in the research phase of building my own and the only thing that is stumping me is how do you get the gears in between the pedals to spin while the pedals stay stationary? :S
Thank you friggin awesome bike i might add.:)
milespapineau 1 year ago
@milespapineau I have some videos of disassembling the old sprockets from the pedal arm for these ones. These ones are bolted to a freewheel which screws onto an axle cup. You need half of the pedal arm, the side which the sprockets are on. You have the axle cup welded to the end of the arm, but the arm must be trimmed down flat and slightly shorter. This is the cheaper, longer way of doing it. Plus you have to be sure of alignment. Cyclone sell the arms, with the threaded piece attached to one.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 Also, this is not the current ratio. It would not be good for the motor to use this one. I use a much better gear ratio now. See later videos to see.
luc59457 1 year ago
@luc59457 Sounds very complicated. Im sure its doable. But if that is the long way of doing it, what is the short way of doing it?
Thnkas again for answering me
milespapineau 1 year ago
@milespapineau buying the pedal arms from cycloneUSA is the fastest way and inquiring with them beforehand to ensure it will work with the cone size on the frame you have. This is much simpler. All you have to do now is buy the rest of the parts (2 sprockets and freewheel which screws onto pedal arm) from electricscooterparts.You put your parts on, then you tightenin your 2nd pedal. First one on the left already in. Matching pair.
luc59457 1 year ago
What did it go wrong at the end of the video?
megabassX 1 year ago
hello I have really liked this kind of stuff since I was a kid.... where would I get a kit to put on my bike?
Aaron5644189 1 year ago
You can get all kinds of kits. I have 2 different ones on my channel. But there is a wide range. You can google e-bike kits or electric motor kits and you will find all kinds of companies. If you have specifics send me a personal msg of your requirements.
luc59457 1 year ago
That thing is AWESOME...great video. I am glad you are using YouTube the way it was meant to be used, instead of for mindless crap.
mrd00d 1 year ago
where did you guy the buy the conversion kit?
chubsters182 1 year ago
Cloudelectric but it is discontinued there. Thesuperkids have something similar however I have never bought from there.
luc59457 1 year ago
It will always have its main functionality, but if not maintained, freewheel could loose half of its capabilities and you won't be able to pedal until you clean it. This is another reason a guard would assist.
luc59457 2 years ago
how much dose it cost to make one
miller1234 2 years ago
It would cost About 1000$ Completed, in the USA. Depending on where you live - give or take. With standard and safe, Sealed Lead acid Batteries. Unfortunately, the motor seems to be discontinued for a period of time. I have not been able to find it on the 2 sites it was usually at. Perhaps it may be sold somewhere else.. I will keep looking and add updates if I find anything.
luc59457 2 years ago
where would I get a crank like that?
TheDigitalguyy 2 years ago
Several companies from the USA carry it. Electricscooterparts is one.
luc59457 2 years ago
who says we need a petrol powered car .. when we have a powerful electric push blike xD
GayBoyRunning 2 years ago
If you hit a major bump at real speed with that crappy frame, it will crack in two and your face will become dust (once the shredded bits dry out). Take care.
giantbluemarlin 2 years ago
@giantbluemarlin: Comments like yours are so predictable and stupid... LOL! I have ridden on very horrible roads at "FULL" speed. No sign of damage at all.. I inspect thoroughly.
luc59457 2 years ago
i have a mountain bike, but i still need to try this shit out on it on the freeway XD
Dimitri1512 2 years ago
LOL!
luc59457 2 years ago
I wanna stick my finger in it! :)
drunksqurrel 2 years ago
love the swishing sounds from the spokes lol
garrysurrey 2 years ago
How long does the charge last? How long does it take to charge?
Lessonteacher 2 years ago
can u go drag racing with it.
dragonwars2 2 years ago
Sounds like the tread is gonna fly off the rim! That's fast!
tubecat72072 2 years ago
a bit faster and the tyre blows up...
captnhaddock77 2 years ago
wow, thats amazing, but i dont think that it has enough torque to bring such performance during a ride on the street when a driver with 70 or 80 kg sits on it, has it. I'm not into this topic but i can not imagine that this bike really goes 120 mph, but as it sounds I think 40 mph could be possible, and this would be really fast, for example faster than the most motorscooters
Saatan92 2 years ago
Precisely... It will Do around 40mph tops which is good enough for me. I would never imply that this does 120mph on road, that would be rediculous... 40mph on this small motor on road is impressive. Plus the motor only costed 109$. On first sight most people would not think it goes that fast.
luc59457 2 years ago
Also, The controller is tiny.
luc59457 2 years ago
WTF ???? I WONT ONE :-PPPP
playfsx 2 years ago
wow that is nice
jakedenos 2 years ago
damn!! how much did the whole setup cost? this is faaaast lol
jesusislordtv 2 years ago
Setup is around 1000$ Completed, give or take ( various factors)
luc59457 2 years ago
sir what kind of motoer was that ?
theskoalman19 2 years ago
lol. . . awesome ...awesome.... crack smash ....uh oh......there goes the chain. ha ha ha
DepthCue 2 years ago 8
hahahahaha!You are so right!
lolygizmo 2 years ago
LMAO, the first part made me laugh but it wasn't the chain LOL.
luc59457 2 years ago
That's an awesome job you did with that.
When does production start?
Drumvain 2 years ago
Not going to happen around here, at least not any time soon.. Laws prohibit it. You can DIY, or buy part(s) of the bike completed, that has already been done. It can be sold without batteries, because it is non-functional.. The user will have to buy and connect the batteries.
luc59457 2 years ago
haha the tire reflector flew out
shinyfuzzy 2 years ago
700c road bike tire with this setup = ownage speed
enyceckk101 2 years ago
I rather ownage torque.. More usefull and less stress on the motor.
luc59457 2 years ago
The ratio has been changed, this one was too much speed not enough torque on road. Still awesome to show before we changed it.. It still spins pretty fast on the latest ratio, off the ground, but maybe half as much as this. If the motor was strong enough first gear would have made it to around 60km/h.. The ratio is borderline now, it has a very nice average road speed - Around 60km/h. First gear goes to about 40km/h.
luc59457 2 years ago
I wish i had 1 of these lol I'm tired of pedaling
enyceckk101 2 years ago
I still pedal a lot. Not when I'm going 60 though... I can pedal about 25km/h with this, then my legs start to move a little too fast.
luc59457 2 years ago
All I can see is the Chain Breaking!
red7media 2 years ago
No, it never broke.
luc59457 2 years ago
a esa velocidad es peligroso tener cosas en los rayos y te daria mas velocidad una cubieta slick y aditamentos aerodinamicos .
syphonfilterarg 2 years ago
ok i need to know how many watts is this motor and how much volts and amps is the battery?
zobraman33 2 years ago 3
The Nameplate rating is 1000w 36v 32amps. It seems to be discontinued at one place unsure of the others. These batteries are 18Ah. I would not go less than that for this system
luc59457 2 years ago
@zobraman33 This Motor is rated at 1152w, The 3 batteries are 18Ah each set to 36 volts.
luc59457 1 year ago
@zobraman33 I would also like to add for the viewers, BatteryMart have "very similar" sized battery as these at 22AH for longer travel time. at 44$USD each if you buy 4 or more. It has excellent ratings too. I am soon upgrading to 20Ah, I just discovered this battery yesterday. I'll stick with the 20ah though since I can buy it nearby.
luc59457 1 year ago
Ok on your night run you did 60kmph roughly this is 35mph I thought you were doing 60 mph and thought how the hell he took that turn so fast.
We use to ride our bikes off the bridge and didn't have a speed o meter but we were hauling ass and could not turn the bike until we slowed down the tires are not that good at gripping very little contact. These are extreme speeds for a mountian bike look for cracks on the frame hate to hear of a failure due to exceeding specs. Please be safe HELMET etc?
cdltpx 2 years ago
I have checked the frame over periods of time.. I wouldn't push much faster than 60km/h prolonged, I have not noticed any changes in the frame I live on relatively rough roads also. Yes, I use helmet for sure. I usually ride slow.. I enjoy around 32-40km/h.
luc59457 2 years ago
Man you need better brakes than that on the rear?
cdltpx 2 years ago
No. I have a video of some quick stopping, they work fine.. Check my night video.. I am not even pushing them that hard.
luc59457 2 years ago
O_O
Davethewerewolf 2 years ago
Better ride with your shoe laces tied or else your pretty much screwd
thebeachedwhale5 2 years ago
Please.. what motor is that and where can i find one? I've had enough of ICE's and making my first bike. Is the motor something i can find in a salvage yard. Since this is my first i don't want to invest to heavily.. with experience i definitely plan move up to sturdier vehicles.
DHMIII 2 years ago