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  • Mark Levin loves to masturbate with a dildo up his ass while looking at pictures of Reagan and videos of the twin towers collapsing.

    Face it America, people are fed up with capitalism, Republicans, and conservatism, and Obama will be re-elected in 2012.

  • God? religious asshole... loses all credibility. the speech sucks anyway

  • limbaugh and levin are peices of trash...limbaugh makes $40 million a year, and levin is closer to $5 million per year...these guys don't care about you at all...they care about the rich...they are ultra convservative and hate debate...they are bigots and racists...GOP means Grand Old Party...it should read GOPG...grand old party gone...

  • @oceans19711 And how much do the obeyme's make? Pilosi? Reid? How about Michael Moore? You do know there are more millionaire congressional democrats than republicans, right? THE RICH HIRE PEOPLE! NO RICH = NO JOBS! LEARN AMERICAN HISTORY YOU TOOL!

  • @giddymoon How well did the Bush Tax cuts work in 2001???? Well let's see...during the 8 years he was in office he did not create one job!!!!!! The rich did not give any of the money back you tool. Do your homework.

  • YAWWWN.. this so called academic.. ( lol) lost me when he started about faith etc..

    Listen Mark... You thickie... THERE IS NO GOD! Your founding fathers

    They who believed in slavery and GOD.. DUH! The revolution you spout on about was not about free peoples against Tyranny .. ( as if you know anything about Tyranny! LOL It was rich merchants, not wanting to pay for protection. Mark you are thick. you may have an American Qualification in something LOL....

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  • @whiskasalpha fuck youre dumb

  • @daPlumber702

    Erudite comment there, pal.. NOT!

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  • Mark Levin is a neo con Jew.

  • If man is imperfect, and all his institutions are imperfect, then certainly his religions and religion institutions are imperfect.

  • @PissedFechtmeister you said a mouthful there, brother. i second your emotion.

  • The Declaration refers to God relative to our unalienable Rights. With secularism rooted in education our Declaration is not a big hit therefore, we need to view these Rights through the prism of science (see my channel video). These Rights apply to all Life, and Social systems. In our enlighten age of science and technology, we know the Laws of Nature trumps mortals in power; revisiting these Rights from the vantage point of science will help make this world a better place to live.

  • I just got my free copy of "Liberty and Tyranny" and all I had to do was call the Mark Levin Show's call screener. Thank you Mark Levin. I enjoy listening to your radio show. I have been listening to it on the great KTSM for the past three months.

  • "every religion will tell you that man is imperfect..."

    Oh really? Not my religion... I do believe that we need to keep the constitution (republican) but I think is reasoning is horrible.

  • I like this, except where Levin talks about right and wrong - it's kind of scary....is "wrong" not allowing gay marriage? Is being immoral doing drugs? he sounds dangerously close to simply being a republican, not a Libertarian. 

  • Dear Liberty Pen,

    Levin and Limbaugh are NOT agents of the freedom and liberty movement like the other patriots you have in your video archive list. They are fake Neoconservatives who do not deserve the time of day of attention of the likes of Paul, Friedman, Napolitano, etc.

  • @rmccay88 You hit the nail on the head! When I hear these guys talk about Obama, you can easily apply it to Bush and them. Levin lies and so does Limbaugh. I think they are just school yard bullies.

  • While I don't like the "Us vs. them" attitude with a paranoid tone in this interview, I overall do agree with it. I don't think its to destroy america, it's because they think that america will somehow be better as tyrrany, and that it won't just become like any other dictatorship in history. When in reality, liberty alone, not tyrrany, is what will make america greater to return to.

  • The GOVERMENTS OPERATE IN BANKRUPTSY.

    The wealth is the productivity of the peoples labours x the market value of what is produced.

    The Interest paid to the Public is in the form of public benefits and or whatever the Goverments spend money on...

    its really Our Monies so these benefits should be free because there prepaid already . Contact The IRS for a 1099 o i d and a 1040 interest to principle forum.

    The Goverments are Bankrupt and have no money and may owe you some interest.

  • @canadastreetmedia

    there's a lot of ignorant paranoid people out there spreading their beliefs

    Myth: that social security is bankrupt. another favorite myth spread by the republicans is that Obama trippled the deficit left by George Bush. Obama actually REDUCED the deficit. Yet another favorite myth spread by republicans: Obama care is costing 1 trillion dollars. Fact: Obama care is saving us 138 billion

  • @Piglatinsuperstar

    the alarmists, the angry parties, the fear mongers,, we cant afford to have them in power making deciions for us. People like Paladino who said it's good to be angry, are simply wrong. YOu cant go around being angry all the time. It's not healthy and besides, you dont make good decisions when you're angry. Levin, Limbaugh, go see your psychiatrist

  • @Piglatinsuperstar It's not that SS is bankrupt, but that within a decade it's going to be insolvent. Myth: The President creates or reduces deficits. Fact: Congress does. Obamacare is not going to save 138 billion. Those are CBO estimates, which by law make unrealistic assumptions. Even the head of the CBO doesn't believe the number.

  • @PissedFechtmeister

    I only wish that were true

    What about Bush in his rush to get into Iraq Plus? his tax breaks for the wealthy

    Re Obama care: you have nothing to worry about, we dont have an imcompetent President anymore. dont let the critics put false ideas in your head. and remember, his critics are the same people that failed the country anyways and have no plan of their own

    I think Britney Spears said it best "Obama knows what he's doing and we shoudnt question him"

  • @Piglatinsuperstar You're being sarcastic, right? Please tell me that's sarcasm.

  • @shamgar001

    I only speak facts. there's people out there that dont accept facts. conservatives were out there for months helping to spread lies that the country was being destroyed by Obama & Pelosi.

    How does decreasing the jobless rate from 9.8% to 8.9% in a mere three months add up to destroying the country? Last month another 200,000 jobs were added to the private sector. How does that add up to destroying the country? will you now admit that all of you were full of hot air?

  • @Piglatinsuperstar You quoted Britney Spears and her opinions on politics, saying that we shouldn't question our Dear Leader. I was really hoping you were being sarcastic there.

    btw, the unemployment rate went down because people stopped looking for jobs and drawing unemployment, so they are no longer counter. The real unemployment rate is closer to 10.3%, with the underemployment rate (including part-timers looking for full time) is closer to 20%)

  • @shamgar001

    Oh, THAT quote! HAHA, I just used it becuz I heard Britney use it after Bush stuck us in Iraq and it pissed me off to hear that little retard that relies on the media to jump start her career every few months, say it

    No, I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. Those are the NUMBER of jobs added to the private sector last month ....so there can't be any misunderstanding

    Obama should win easy re election so dont bother wasting your time trying to fight it

  • @Piglatinsuperstar Ah, that makes more sense.

    You say you're only interested in facts, look it up. Google "real unemployment rate Gallup poll". But those facts make your Dear Leader look bad, so you should probably just ignore them.

  • @shamgar001

    as long as the media doesnt go into full detail, what reaches the eyes & ears of potential voters is all that matters

    So I'd say that Obama actually looks pretty good. Alot better than Republicans who are currently busy slashing jobs. That makes the Republicans party come across as too much of a risk in upcoming elections. Who would want to sacrifice their jobs and the welfare of their family just to satisfy the whims of Republicans? Obama wins easy re-nomination. Just watch

  • i plead with all you people to stop listening to these two Nazis and that Glenn beck and Shaun hannutty too. these people are destroying the fabric of our country and are poisoning and muddling your minds. president Obama and the Democrats have saved this country from a second depression that the conservatives caused. the Democrats stand firm on uniting this nation while the conservatives want to divide us so please rethink your position and join with us and make america great again

  • @salmer666

    Actually, the Democrats caused this recession, a Republican president made it worse. It was the Democrats for 30 years who authorized sub-prime lending to people who could not under normal standards be able to receive these loans. It was the Democrats who largely created this housing bubble.

    What the hell are you talking about that the Democrats are "uniting this nation"? They passed the most intrusive bill in a generation behind closed doors, against the will of most Americans.

  • @Ipetratz Let's not forget, the republican that made it worse wasn't at all conservative, he was a Neocon, which is an oxymoron, especially since they do everything but conserve.

  • @salmer666

    I also don't get what the hell you're talking about when you say that you want to "make American great again". It is YOUR party that wants to steal MY liberty and private property and increase the size of government. You don't care about the constitution and the prospect of individual liberty because to your party, the ends justify the means.

    "Democrats have saved this country for a second depression..."

    You're going to have to explain this one, because I'm just not that creative.

  • @Ipetratz you tell em; unfortunately you beat me to it!

  • @Ipetratz Referring probably the first time to the great depression, then to Bill Clinton. Apparently keeping the great depression going (FDR), and creating an economic bubble that lead to this recession (Bill Clinton) is saving this country's economy to them.

  • @salmer666 YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.....you can not be this stupid in your facts, and you should not be allowed to vote.

  • @salmer666 I'm not a fan of Rush, I personally think he's an idiot. However, aside from alot of the paranoid Us vs them, evil plot by the false liberals, tone, a few good points are actually raised in this video. I plead with you to allow new information into your head, and not tell people what to watch, but to just make sure you remember that everyone has their bias, so use discretion.

    We know the democrats are federalists, just like republicans, why join either? Why not go alone?

  • Mark Levin understands reality.

  • @RatkoUSA he's close...if he really understood it, he'd be a libertarian instead of a conservative.

  • Never be afraid to love your country (the one designed by our Founders to protect individual liberty) and hate your government (the force that seeks to take it away).

  • @fzqlcs While I don't hate the government, as I don't know how to hate. I do agree, we should love our country but despise and push be suspicious of our government, it will keep the balance and keep away tyrrany.

  • ... the kid in the beginning with the "Leftover Crack" shirt burning the flag..

    I was that kid once... (never burned any flags, though)

    then I began to understand that the flag is not what should be hated, the tyrants that we've elected to represent the flag are who should be hated.

    please, don't hate the country... we are truly the last stand on earth for individual liberties and freedom... we simply need to stop worrying about the polar bears, and start worrying about our society.

  • Levin is a partisan fool who pretends to stand for the US Constitution yet is silent about Obama in regard to one of the Constitution's most basic provisions: "No person except a natural born Citizen, .... , shall be eligible to the Office of President". A true believer in the Constitution supports all of it, regardless of their ideological or personal beliefs. Levin uses the Constitution for political purposes by appealing to the patriotic sentiments of the ignorant and uninformed.

  • test

  • I wonder what Levin, Limbaugh -etc. think of the Patriot Act. Bush, Obama in my opinion same thing different packaging.

  • what fucking douchebag. he refuses to respect opinions that are diffrent tahn his own and casts them aside a "undemocratic".

  • Thomas Jefferson quoted, All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good consience to remain silent.

  • no such thing as demo/republicans anymore... both sides of the aisle= lies and profit for the already rich

  • Levin is to Libs is like...Garlic to Vampires, Rust to Metal, Oil to water, and Libtards to Liberty- amen brother.

  • @papageorgio419 - That is exactly it. lol

  • Mark "The Great One" Levin gives one of the simplest explanations of what is happening in America right now! We can stop this by returning to the principles that made us the most prosperous nation the world has ever known. Personal responsibility must be at the core and not a govt that will care for us from cradle to grave.

  • @cattleprods911

    You owned shit, loser. GET OFF THE INTERNETS YA BIG DOPE!

  • @cattleprods911 Simply and accurately put my friend-

  • Yes, Pelosi's face is filled with Botox...looks like CHUCKY ---the killer doll.

  • gaesti12

    Impressive vocabulary!!!

    Retards is a monumental put down!!

    Did you steal that 1 from your (((HERO)) Mark (THE NAME CALLER) Levin??

    I counted the other other night. In 10 minutes he said, IDIOT STUPID and MORONS at least 5 times. That's once every 30 seconds.

    BRILLIANT!!

  • oh and 1 more thing mickdobbles, it looks like you commented about 10 times on 1 video, and there is no real material here, ur just bad talking levin, so i got to ask you, are you one of his many stalkers who hate him? just curious, you must be if you comment so many times about him, i mean, i bet you fantasize about being all alone with him or something. GET OUT OF HERE YOU BIG DOPE!

  • you're funny

  • ur lieing about the kung-fu and r just saying that 2 protect urself b/c u know ur defenseless....right....don't worry though, no 1 would waste their time with u ne ways...

  • LEVIN who's no PAVAROTTI was BITCHING that Sawyer's voice sounded DRONE!!!!

    MARK LEVIN is the last person on earth that should be criticizing someone over their SPEAKING VOICE be it that LEVIN'S shrill sounds like he has been kicked in the scrotum numerous times!!

  • The post by Kill the clowns is 100% ACCURATE. LEVIN is a great name caller.

    For example, I listened in the other evening,MONDAY I believe and he was talking about Diane Sawyer replacing Charles Gibson as the Anchor on ABC National news.

    SEE PT 2

  • you liberals out there since you are so smart and we the rest of us are hulligans are non progresive are so retarded we understand that you can't stand us we smell we are stupid but you know what you should all go to moscow becouse you dont even know what socialism is retards.

  • he calls them like that only when they really are. o like you. sorry retard

  • Levin is a CRYBABY who berates people calling them, STUPID, MORONS, IDIOTS, DUMMYS. ETC.

    He cannot go 3 minutes without using some type of HIGH SCHOOLISH childish word.

    I think those words better describe his listeners and audience. LEVIN....LIMBAUGH........HANNI­TY......

    OBERMANN are all what's WRONG with this country!!!!

  • killdaclownz, tell us one thing he said that is not accurate.

  • what's wrong with this country is destruction of liberty and a massive debt. wake up, you think leftists don't berate people?we need to stand and unite not bitch and moan about a radio host.

  • Wow liberals acctualy watch theese videos just to talk shit! well his book is hardly stupid that book is gangsta it seems to me that liberials can only call people racist! fuck liberials they should all get aids from the faggot they love so much and die.

  • I guess you like Ed Schultz. People aren't allowed to have a different opinion than a statist. Libs always argue from a flawed position as they are always wrong.

  • This man, and I use this term loosely, is annoying as hell with his nasally voice and whiney as a bitch attitude, using scare tactics and half truths to ruse the intelligent listeners who CANNOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES. People like LEVIN< HANNITY< LIMBAUGH and OREALLY are the BLIGHT of America!!

  • Levin is a jack a** CRYBABY who when being outdebated calls the other person an IDIOT.

    He then hangs up on them. What a GREAT American (NOT)

  • i havent seen him outdebated, liberals cant, there morons

  • i hope my state does leave the united states i dont like cummunism, you dumb ass liberal

  • Liberal. That's a hoot. I am armed to the TEETH, trained and ready.

    Great use of the English language TIMMY.. Did you even attend any type of schooling? I didn't think so.

  • armed my ass, you are a liar, you talk like a yuppie fag, you liberal yuppie fags always try to when a arguement by insulting somebody's IQ

  • Yeh mickdobbles your obviously a genius. Undereducated who cannot think for themselves? Those who listen to every word their professors speak as if it's the air they need to breathe are the ones that cannot think for themselves. Levin is not a neocon, he is a constitutionalist. What are you armed to the teeth with? Other than conceit...you pretentious fool.

  • I did flee NYC for TEXAS, and I LOVE it. I have an MBA from a ivy-league school. So, am I illiterate and under-educated? Are you a "juco liberal?" Oh, by the way, it is third, not 3rd, jackass. As for Texas, at least I am not giving fifty percent of my paycheck to the government.

  • Ira Levin was also good. Way to go Mark.

  • this book was the best book i read this year so far... Mark keep it up!

  • fuck obama

    he is a communist scum

  • I just vomited in my mouth. Levin is a hack, not conservative, and a dickhead. Why do people listen to this clown?

  • Because if we had to listen to assholes like you, we'd actually choke on our vomit.

  • An American complaining about the misuse of political language?

    Americans have redefined terms like "libertarian", "liberal" and "conservative" in ridiculous ways.

  • and van shitian you sir are a retard

  • What's the song at the beginning of this?

  • Resist the NWO!!!!!

    Molōn labe!

  • When all else fails accuse someone of being gay.......PATHETIC.......You people live in a bloody bubble

    BAHHHHHH

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  • OK, you're not gay, but you're still wrong.

    And by-the-by, I still think you're gay ;)

  • So you are a HOMO PHOBE.

    Did you know that a study out of Yale showed 80% of those making anti gay comments usually held repressed homo erotic desires??

    Why do you hate yourself??

  • We also know that 89.2% of all pollsters, dream up their statistics by pulling them out of their ASS!

  • (((Levin doesn't lose, jackass)))

    That sentence screams that greatwhite male is a PHUCKING CLUELESS IDIOT

    END OF DISCUSSION!!

  • with ALL due respect, you (mickdobbles) strike me as the "PCI"

  • mickgobbles, is the poster child for repressed homosexuality.

  • white ? you racist piece of shit

  • When LEVIN is losing an argument he berates the caller by calling him STUPID or some other CHILDISH name and then he hangs up on them. CLASSY!!!!

    I far from agree with the decisions our government is making these days but LEVIN is still a dick

  • Levin doesn't lose, jackass. He cuts through the bullshit. What he really ought to do, IMO, is screen his calls a little better -- debate some popular liberal talking heads in a neutral environment.

  • WAKE UP!

    Molōn labe!

  • call a dumbass a dumbass, morons like you cry foul and conservatives should play nice. liberals are assholes who talk tough but cant confront because your a bunch of wimps. you talk tough but run away and cry foul.

  • yef22--The way Levin berates people who disagree with him is WAY CLASSY!!.

    He's gonna pop a heart artery one day.

    Oh well, one less idiot

  • Levin uses the language of statists and liberals to burn them down. Some times you have to fight fire with fire.

  • mickdobbles is an idiot

  • *continued*We all need to stop this hate mongering against each other. We, liberals and conservatives, need to actually sit down and figure out how to solve the problems that we have. Our world and country are not perfect and any one who denies that is blind. Both the liberals and the conservatives are so wrapped up in believing that they have the absolute truth that they dogmatically accept anything in the name of their party and spew hate and contempt on anyone who doesn't follow the dogma.

  • Listen to levins show, listen to AM radio; they seek hate & not reconciliation. Shit, that fool levin is creating new words.

  • yah al sharpton , jesse jackson, are the biggest racists around . Malcom x was a rascist. you want equality then lets have equality.

  • 1st off, conservatives are not god-fearing. Liberals are. They hand out rights for all religions except christians and jews. The Modern Liberal thinks that if they downgrade what is good and upgrade what is wrong, they can create a perfect would because good and evil will be they same and there won't be anything to fight about.

  • A. "God fearing" is from the bible. It means one who follows and respects God.

    B. What bloody rights are you talking about? You mean the right of other religions not to be driven out of the country? Do you mean us removing religion from the government so that it doesn't corrupt our society (like it always has historically)? Nobody is trying to "upgrade what is wrong". That is exactly the ridiculous rhetoric that I was talking about. Rather than debate Liberals are now evil lovers. Sad.

  • The major problem with this ad is that it misrepresents everything. It says there are "liberals" and "conservatives". All liberals are: atheists, socialist, statist, freedom hating, America destroyers. Conservatives are: God fearing, freedom loving, defenders of all that is right and holy. They claim that liberals do not believe in freedom or truth. It is absolute bull shit. Liberals want the country to succeed just as much, we just disagree on how to do it. *continued*

  • I hate how all these people who claim to know a gods will or know its mind are ruining a good message. Honestly, how is that different from Allah or Zues? There are REASONS why we have rights.

    -"To save the world requires faith and courage: faith in reason, and courage to proclaim what reason shows to be true."

    Bertrand Russell. Yes. I am a Libertarion Atheist. Got a problem with that?

  • But they're not ruining anything. You have to understand how important it is that the nature of liberty, as we have come to know it, comes from something other than Man. But Atheism has no answer to that. Atheism can't have an answer to that by default. If there is no god, where do rights come from? If it comes from people, then it's subject to the whim of people. The Judeo-Christian philosophy believes that all men are endowed with rights from a common Creator.

  • To expand even further would require more space than I have to write here. We claim to know the will of God based on what is inspired in the scriptures contained in the Bible. Often times we might get it wrong, but it's there for all to see. The very foundations of the liberty we all enjoy come from those pages.

    But what does atheism have to offer that's better? Bertrand Russell didn't know the truth. The truth is the alternatives, i.e. Communism and Socialism, are far worse.

  • Secede now? The south has most of the military and all of the balls that protects the country. without us the rest of the country would fall.

  • The way our government is taking away our freedoms and overturning our constitution at the speed of light; I can only wonder how long before they mandate the stars and stripes to be removed from our flag and replaced with the shwastika.

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  • Say no to the Patriot act! unless you want to loose you rights and end up in GETMO! Say no to any law these liberal fools make to violate or rights (banning guns) example..

    Obama is not even a us born citizen?! He fired a man that was the CEO of a company the people made... The Government WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE! DON'T TREAD ON ME!! We don't work for the Government!

    The paranoia of Sept 11th 2001 have brought laws that take our freedoms to where if the "Nazi SS Homeland Security" need to break

  • down your door and hall you in.. They don't need a Judge to issue a warrant??!! Judges know the laws to protect the People and keep order.

    All I can say we've been sleeping and the Oboma administration is going to "Re up" the patriot act that the bush administration didn't even read when they passed it due to 9/11 paranoia. I served 9 years for the fact that I wanted to Serve like my father and grand father fought for!!"FREEDOM!!!"WE THE PEOPLE" means man NOT we the GOVERNMENT of big banks etc.

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  • I'm pretty sure that Glenn Beck wasn't supportive of Bush 2's policies either. In fact Beck said on one of his TV shows that the old boss looks a lot like the old one.

  • "The old boss looks a lot like the old boss"?? LMAO!! assclown!!

  • Amen brother!

  • "The only thing that makes life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unalianable, is the belief in a creator."

    Way to poison the well. I agree with his points about the role of government and such, but this dude just throws in this crap about God being necessary to have liberty. He's going to push a lot of people away from the good message by adding in this God stuff, and for no reason too.

    *shakes head*

  • hate it or love it, the forefathers were theists and made alot of reference to the "creator" and "God", although they did not seem to align with the Billy Graham style of religion talk. I wouldn't believe it but I have read it myself. All those guys believed that God intended man to live free and happy...kind of a paradox given what religion is today...CONTROLLING

  • America's forefathers may have believed it. But they were wrong. Rights are NOT given by God.

    If an atheist were to come by this, they would be pushed away from libertarianism because it is, as he claims, based on the existence of God. And that is an outright lie. That is just poisoning a good message.

    He's inserting lies into the message which would turn people away.

  • If you're unalienable rights aren't given to you by a Creator, then who gives them to you?

  • just because my brethren...just because! aahahhahahaah

  • There is no creator. We don't have natural rights based upon any magical being.

  • I agree.

  • government and the people

  • Libertarianism is very secular, and many of those holding that philosophy on freedom are.are atheists.

  • I agree, Im an Atheist myself as well as a libertarian. small government and a whoooole lot of freedom

  • they didnt believe God intended man to live free and happy; they believe God gave them the right to PURSUE freedom and happiness.

  • The rights you have are precisely the limitations and freedoms about which an overpowering entity permits.

    You say that people have a right to property? Well, government has created plenty of rules about which you can and cannot have and taxes you at their whim. Those are your real property rights.

    When you say that you need a God to give you rights, what does that mean? What is God doing to make your rights?

    It seems to me that we have to fight for our rights, even our forefathers.

  • oh well better than government housing!

  • God gives us our freedoms. But because God also gives us a free will - we end up fighting against those who use that free will to take our God given freedoms away from us.

    Everyone will eventually answer before God - whether or not you believe in God !!

    Eternity is longer than you think.

  • paraphrased on my part of course! ; )

  • There are many freedom restrictions in those religious fictional books.

  • I don't subscribe to any organized religion, but I think there is much more evidence in favor of a Creator than there is for mere chance.

  • Which is exactly why the USA is so great! It's constitution mean nobody can be forced to adhere to ANY religion.

    And thanks to the 2nd ammendment, the people can shoot any religious (or other typ of) despots who try to force them.

  • It's true, though. If your unalienable rights aren't given to you by a Creator, then who gives them to you? Government?

    Without a belief in a Creator, God or otherwise, any rights you think you have aren't rights, but privileges granted by whomever has the biggest stick.

  • Take a look at what you said, and you will see that you are not consistent.

    You ask rhetorically "who gives [your rights] to you? Government?" As if to mock the very idea that rights are presented by a forceful agency. You drive this point home by saying, "any rights you think you have aren't rights, but privileges granted by whomever has the biggest stick."

    But the big irony is that you don't apply this analysis to the idea of a God "giving rights". Is he not carrying the biggest stick?

  • The free mind would be the difference of where the notion of rights come from. Under pre Darwin and post Darwin thought, the weak are just food for the strong,that includes you and me. The people that believed/believe God made them with inalienable rights went past that thought pattern and taught that people were made to love one another...as silly as it seems, until people actually love one another than they fall back to the latter thought pattern. Its easier not to believe in God and just take

  • I'm a Deist. God endowed his rights and gave him reason, and we are to make the most of them.

    When we allow the notion that right is dictated by might, then why have a moral code at all? If there are no unalienable rights endowed by a Creator, then all is subjective. That is not the way of a free, civil society.

  • *endowed man his rights

  • well please go live someplace where there is no religion at all and see how they thrive. move to china or something you might be happier there if you dont like the way of america

  • The Chinese are primarily Buddhist.

  • Yeah, until it conflicts with the interest of the state.

  • good stuff

  • I think he's speaking metaphorically when he says this.

    It's a reference to natural law and a moral code built upon it.

  • DON'T TREAD ON ME!

  • Preaching to the choir.

  • Yes, and now you don't! It all depends on whose man is in office

  • Nope I believe in the constitution and in freedom...But when 4 years ago I was called a commie by these people now I'm called a fascist and a racist by the liberals

  • I see. I assumed you were liberal because you called Limbaugh and Levin "The biggest sacks of shit in America." Perhaps I was wrong.

  • I dont believe in a "creator" unless I refer to my parents. I do however, believe in the pillars of freedom, the respect for individual rights and property.

    Besides that, I like what Mark is saying

  • The point is you are born with the rights of life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; it is not given to you, you have it as a human when you are born. Government cannot give you the rights you already have; they can only protect those rights or take them away.

  • yeah, i get the point he brings across. I happen to be very much in agreement with what he says. Especially about the hijacking of the labels of "liberal" by the statists.

    I just can't reconcile his appeal to religion, and how the religious people get it, but how us atheists don't.  You do not need religion to understand what liberty is.

  • I am in total agreement with you.

  • Read the book. He addresses this and redirects those that have issues with acknowledgment of a God by referring to "natural law" and "moral order".

    You're right. You don't have to believe in a creator and Levin's latest is not a religious book.

  • Ron Paul 2012