Intermittent Fasting has worked for me. I eat one day - fast the next - ON and OFF. It's not hard. Your body gets used to the routine and you are not even hungry on your fasting days.
@butterflybeatles "...Intermittent Fasting has worked for me. I eat one day - fast the next - ON and OFF. It's not hard..."
That might work for some people - but not for others. For Type II diabetics, for example - many of them get what are referred to as "liver dumps" when they fast, raising their blood glucose... (this is why some diabetics have high fasting readings)... and those glucose readings only get higher and higher as they fast, which is damaging...
All he said was that if you spike your blood sugar enough times, when the insulin your body creates to bring it back down to normal levels kicks in, you'll be conditioned to be hungry and therefore you'll eat more which means more calories in but because you're not exercising more just eating more you'll gain weight. THERE'S NO SECRET HERE AND NEWSFLASH- THAT'S NOTHING NEW!
Carbs are not bad. It's so ignorant to say they are. In the animal kingdom which we are a part of you don't see fat zebras or pigeons. They eat carbs. It's a dumb analogy but saying that you can't eat vegetables coz it will make you fat is dumb too. Look up carbs, do you even know what it is? A carb is a carb - BUT did you know that refined carbs are what's bad for you? And why? Don't set yourself up for failure PLEASE-- Education is key, there is no quick fix, no magic pill, no regime
Monitor your own blood sugar, calories, blood fats, and mood. Then, make single variable small adjustments and check your stats. Self experimentation to find what is right for you and your current lifestyle is what will work best. Diabetics are forced into this self checking, just to stay alive. Without objective numbers, who knows what your choices are doing to your body?
Eat an unrefined diet. Be moderate in all three macro nutrients and see what ratios work for you in terms of satiety, blood work, and weight loss. Calories DO matter.
An endurance athlete will generally tolerate (and possibly benefit from) more carbs than a desk worker. The issue of carb, fat, and protein consumption is not black and white. Dr. Bernstein's approach of small adjustments and monitoring should be used by all... even people who believe in high carb/ low fat diets.
I essentially agree, but something's missing: "80-10-10"-ers, some of the biggest sugar-eaters, are virtually never fat: They eat all they want, whenever they want, yet are often accused of being anorexic. Fresh, whole, raw fruits & vegetables(mostly green). 80%carbs/10% protein/10% fat. Virtually all the calories are from sugar in fruit. Yes, Lustig takes into consideration the mitigating effect of fruit's fiber & micronutrients, but this doesn't account for its completely opposite effect.
@lazur1 "80-10-10'ers...Lustig ... doesn't account for its completely opposite effect..."
I think most 80-10-10'ers are lean because the lifestyle involves LOTS of exercise - they're all outdoor enthusiasts, or everyone I've ever seen. Others don't eat many calories on that diet. BUT lean doesn't mean healthy... Not to mention they LOSE muscle mass. Long-term, they look positively emaciated - like meth addicts. That's NOT HEALTHY.
Here's a good policy - end corn subsidies. My taxpayer dollar to pay for GM high fructose corn syrup for people to consume so that they can increase the cost of my health insurance? insanity
Gee it took a loooooonnnnnnngggggggggggggggggg time to get to his point that reducing insulin is the key. Problem is reducing insulin not good/healthy for the body.
What about the effects of Hashimoto's thryoiditis, hypothyroid, and stress on fat storage? There are many women who chronically starve themselves, and are still unable to lose weight? Whereas your explanation explains the problem for 90% of the population, there are those with eating disorders who still cannot lose weight. Do you have any research available for this?
@LiandaLudwig watching this for I know someone close to me who is hashi/hypo/pcos/gluten intolerant and cannot lose weight. She is organic, gluten free and is beginning a grain/sugar free diet. ANYTHING. She is allergic to corn, to soy, most meats that are fed these two, as well. Does NOT drink soda. Eats some berries or apples. Grapefruit. Mainly grass fed beef and veggies/salads. Works two part time jobs and is a full time student. No time to sit around and eat/drink!
@sammietheodore2012 Your friend is doing everything right, but stress throws a monkey wrench into the mix. It sounds like she needs some REST and balance in her life. Do check out my site for information about how stress, and lack of sleep can prevent weight loss. ALSO, UNDER treated condition is thyroid. She may need a very good doctor to try other natural treatment. Also, for some people it takes a VERY low carb count- under 20 grams- have her write down every thing she's eating and check.
@sammietheodore2012 - Really the thing I would recommend is for her to have more GOOD Fats: coconut oil, avocado oil, fish oil, and more pasture raised meat - That will make her feel full, and then she'll have more of a feeling of fullness, and satiation - and want to eat LESS carbs because she's full. Avoid the juicing, especially if it's fruits. Make sure you get my report on my site to see what the avoid, and to understand what to eat for good food choices.
@LiandaLudwig Will suggest - oils will help SO much - we have been brainwashed to believe canola and corn is the ONLY way to go. She also needs to realize feelings between real true hunger and just "something" else. Do you know if there is any nutritional difference in "grass fed" and "grass finished" I heard both. I understand finish is the end...animal could have had grains - but isn't grass fed grass finished as well? thanks for the info!! :)
@sammietheodore2012 Personally, I've found getting rid of the processed/refined oils and eating natural oils has made great differences in my skin, hair and overall health. I now only eat animal fats (butter, lard, etc.) and natural oils like pressed olive oil, coconut oil, palm oil, etc.
If you squeeze it and oil comes out, it's natural. That doesn't happen with corn, soybeans, etc.
@sammietheodore2012 Oh... and one of the WORST oils is cottonseed oil - it's scary.
Technically, cotton isn't classified as food by the FDA or USDA, so the growers can do ANYTHING they want to cottonseed before refining it, because it's NOT food. (There are more standards with corn oil, canola oil, soybean oil, etc. because those are classified as food.)
It's one of the most polluted things we could possibly put into our bodies - cottonseed oil. Avoid it like the plague.
@sammietheodore2012 I think you have the right idea in your description- It sounds like another way to mislead the public. They feed the animals grains (HFCS, and GM corn, soy) and then let them live the last week on grass? I think it's important to find out more about that!
In my personal experience what the doctor says is true fast food restaurants give you a discount on the value meals because they want you to drink lots of soda hoping it will make you more hungry and buy more food, this is why everytime I get a value meal at a fast food restaurant I am just as hungry when I leave as when I got there.
Fructose surely can't be the cause of obesity. Look at fruitarians, raw foodists, 80/10/10 dieters and people who eat alot of fruit in general they're all in shape and have low bodyfat. Or am I confusing fructose for fruit sugar? I thought fructose was fruit sugar.
@leahcimrac Not so sure they have low bodyfat, you don't see a lot of raw food people with six pack abs and a powerful physique. Lots of fruit will destroy insuline sensitivity as far as I know. Just my thoughts!
@swetec1 Thats fair enough, but as i know a lot of raw foodist who train then you're wrong about your first part of your comment. I'm not having a go at you or anything, but i know a lot of raw foodists and fruitarians who have a very hard time putting fat on thus they have six pack and lean physiques. I also know some raw food bodybuilders and I can promise you they're muscle and strength can rival anything else. Thanks for your reply btw, please don't be offended by my reply.
I don't know much about biology or chemistry but yes that 13:26 example seems to make more sense than his 90 minute video to me. I do think food addiction is contributing and just habit but I guess I see where he's coming from. Shame so many foods contain sugar :(
Mother nature had the solution all along. Breast milk is about 60% fat about 15% carbs & 25% protein. Work a diet on that basis & you'll be slim & healthy. Remember....it's not nice to fool Mother Nature
I love when some ignorant douchebag comes here and states the person is wrong because they're fat... then tells people to go eat 80/10/10 which is incredibly unhealthy, nutrient deficient and proven dangerous.
Vegan diets have, IN FACT, killed people.
We NEED the nutrients found in meat. If you don't eat meat, you MUST supplement B12 at a minimum. You must also get regular blood panels drawn and supplement all necessary nutrients that you're low on.
people arent responsible for being obese? yes im sure we would find loads of obese people going back 100 years, oh wait...most people were skinny back then?
I guess this eating less and not sitting on your ass 24/7 can make you lose weight LOLOLOL
@noldorian86 100 years ago, there were no mcdonalds, and many other processed food. did you bother watching his 1h30 min lecture before commenting? i didn't know you were such an expert.
@noldorian86 "...are you advocating that people stop eating carbs..."
I believe that depends on the individual. People who are NOT affected by metabolic-syndrome, pre-diabetes or diabetes really have NO reason to cut their carbohydrate intake, EXCEPT that we ALL should eliminated refined/processed carbs/sugars.
Obese people with no disorder of their CHO-metabolism can lose weigh by reducing calories (NEVER below BMR), cut refined/processed carbs/sugars, and exercise (HIIT).
@noldorian86 "...are you advocating that people stop eating carbs..."
In addition to eliminating refined/processed carbs/sugars people should eliminate refined/processed oils AND add more non-starchy vegetables to their diet. Most don't get enough greens and colourful veggies.
But again, I feel only those with diabetes, pre-diabetes or metabolic syndrome need to go low-carb. And only until glucose 'normalizes' then start adding some back in, while staying in good control.
@noldorian86 - First, I ask you respectfully, to address your disagreement to the issue, and not use disparaging names to people with whom you disagree. If you would actually like to learn about it, exercising actually makes people HUNGRIER, rather than contributing to weight loss. You can learn all about this, and why people are more overweight now than in the past by reading Gary Taubes, Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It. It explains the science, which will help you understand the issue.
many people are turning away from ketogenic diets, even mercola. you should read aubrey de grey and find out that ketones and their products are far more harmful than the effects of insulin. i have tried the low carb lifestyle and after an initial honeymoon period, metabolism slows down, cortisol rises and you end up fat and muscleless like lustig. he is fat. to deny this is ridiculous. he is also wrong about fructose. check out 30bad. there not fat at 3000 cals a day.
@tuttutmutt1976 yes, now we know exactly why when you go to a fast food restaurant & when you compare prices of a value meal vs just buying the burger & fries the drink is bacilly free because the sugar makes you eat more!
@CeletenteFan223 fast food restaurants know what the Doctor is saying is true, they give you the drink free with the value meal to make you more hungry hoping you'll go back to get more food.
stopped eating carbs , and started a ketogenic diet on 11/11/11, best decision i ever made! even after the dietitian at the hospital were i work told me that keto is bad for the health and fat is bad, i still did it bc i research and found NO evidence of the dietitians claims anywhere.
@furenaef Excellent. You've peaked behind the curtain and saw the truth. One of the biggest problems with the medical community is that they forget their education as soon as they leave school. After that they are reeducated by drug sales men and "experts" they generally have an agenda.
@DrGaryGreen could not agree more with your statement, money talks. what gets me even more mad, is that even after i showed my blood work to the dietitians at my job, obviously it was even better then the previous one blood work before i went on keto), they still said i was going to die of a heart attack. It is mind bottling to me, i just dont understand their logic. Ketogenic diet has even lowered my Bloodpressure, and i feel more energized! Low Carb lifestyle is the right choice
cool - I started the keto diet on Feb 9 (3 weeks now) and have lost 9 lbs without feeling hungry all the time and I don;t have cravings for sugar any more - i agree the mainstream advice is obvious bullshit and one has to test the point or themselves - how is the diet working for you?
@cameronvcope im on like my 5th month, now im getting stronger at the gym, lost 30lb in 3 months, first 2 weeks was hard, everyone prettymuch bringing me down for doing it, family, friends, dietitians at my hospital were i work, doctors, first month was difficult getting used to it, 2 times i wanted to quit bc of the negativity by everyone, but i stuck it out, didn't listen to them, and kept going. I wake up in the morning now NEVER TIRED, i dont crash like i used to after i eat, Never giving up
@AaronPatinio: I disagree. Focusing on proper foods is everything because you can't really focus on anything else, maybe environment, buts its far easier to experiment with foods/supplements then that. But it still holds, that if you are not hungry, you will not eat, so you need to focus on stuff that doesn't make you hungry for a start. Sugar is obvious, its so addictive that anti-narcotics are used to prevent binge. Not a sole one obviously, but - think THC for instance - domininat for sure.
@AaronPatino: And then you are hungry, like I said... I didn't mention ghrelin as sole factor. However, when you are not hungry, you are not going to eat no matter what hormonal set is playing to accomplish that.
Please define "proper food." - Proper food makes you unsick, energetic, non-obese , all in all, makes you feel good. In my case that is non-industrial food of animal or microbial origin with lots of green vegetables and nuts.
@majkinetor The idea is that there are many factors to blame for hunger, and they are not the only markers of whether a person will eat or not. Ghrelin, leptin, blood-glucose, PYY, CCK, and insulin are just a few, respond to carbs/protein/fats, regulate short and long-term hunger, and interact. Focusing on such "proper foods" is meaningless
@AaronPatinio and @LCHFinCanada: The point is, that you don't want to eat when you eat proper food. Thats why caloric excess is meaningless - nobody eats when its not hungry. So the deduction doesn't go as "calorie restriction of shitty food -> fat burn" BUT "ad libitum intake of good food -> spontaneous calorie restriction -> fat burn"
@majkinetor "Nobody eats when they're not hungry." This is not true, and there are many hormonal pathways that signal hunger other than ghrelin. Simply being at very low body-fat percentages can cause sensations of constant hunger regardless of what food is eaten.
@majkinetor "nobody eats when it's not hungry" this is completely untrue.
There are MANY people that eat and over-eat due to emotional/psychological issues. These people will eat for many and varied reasons, but they most certainly eat when not hungry.
@majkinetor "nobody eats when it's not hungry" and it depends on how you define "hunger"...
excess insulin levels are shown to induce cravings in many, many people even though they are not physically in need of food. The "Chinese Food hungry an hour later" effect, for example.
I would also like to point out that popular voices, such as Lustig and Taubes, should put more emphasis on caloric intake when it comes to weight gain/loss/maintenance. They are doing a huge disservice to their audience by strictly pulling the insulin or leptin alarm.
I have had people tell me a caloric surplus made of "healthy" foods will result in weight loss. Is this what they want as their take-away message?
@AaronPatinio I agree - for many people, especially with the morbidly obese, there is a psychological and/or emotional component to their eating that modifying diet alone will not correct.
Interestingly though, there are a couple studies now that show that those who overeat FAT are less likely to gain weight than those who overeat carbohydrate. I found those quite interesting to study - that does bear further research.
But yes, any caloric excess can still lead to weight-gain.
@AlbertaBeefy I don't mean to pick at what constitutes "low-carb" (generally 5%-35% CHO/overall intake); the effects of insulin on diabetics calls for carb-control. Someone restricting their CHO from 65% to 50% to reduce insulin resistance but maintain insulin satiety effects would not, by any dietician, be considered "low-carb." People seem to see things in B&W: Insulin in high levels cause negative effects, therefore reduce to a predominantly fat-centered diet. This is not logically valid.
"Low-Carb" when speaking in a diet context is typically best-determined by an obesity specialist dealing with the individual.
Biological Individuality tells us there is no "umbrella" term that everybody will fit into.
For me, as an example, I started with Dr. Richard Bernstein's recommendations of 30g per day - 6/12/12 at breakfast/lunch/supper and once I maintained better glycemic control and lost visceral bodyfat, started adding more in.
@daBOODA Thats not what he is saying. He's saying it's not literally eat 1lb of food you can lose exactly 1lb of weight by exercising N amount of time. He's saying it depends on what you eat. If you eat a 1lb of meat and workout for, lets say 1hr, you'll burn off more fat then if you ate 1lb of sugar and exercised the same amount of time. No doctor would ever dispute this, so, i guess, you are full of shit.
i was listening to his interview on the radio show of sean croxton.. OMG how many BS this guy did say! then when asked what he had eaten that day he said: half bagel for breakfast with cheddar cheese,then he had lunch(didnt say what!)and he added he was nit hungry that day.. LoL!!! bagel for breakfast?doesnt he know thats pure glucose?isnt he saying to avoid it in first place? at leat he could have said he had eggs and bacon..
Now we need Dr.Enfeldt to guinea pig himself by injecting insulin into his body while staying true to his LCHF eating plan.This would be a remarkable test and proof of the insulin theory.
@wolfstriked that would be dangerous. Insulin lowers blood sugar. Easiest way to kill someone with normal blood sugar is with insulin. Which part is theory? Insulin stores calories why do you think type 1 untreated diabetics become emaciated with super high blood urine sugars? Because they have no insulin to store anything.
@AaronPatinio not all the calories we eat must be burn for energy but moving,walking, working, exercising etc.. energy is lost all the time when u sweat,pee,poo,your body does basal metabolic activities,etc.. so think that if u r gonna eat a 600/700 meal now then u have to burn those tot cal untill your next meal otherwise u gain weight is a bit silly but who dont know what the low says ends up thinking this bad informations!!
@mokugin81 No one is saying you need to burn off every meal with physical activity, nor that the human body is a closed system. What we know is that the energy put into the human body is either lost to chemical processes or stored. That is what the first law gives us; that is "Calories in = Calories out." I'm not sure where your contention arises.
@AaronPatinio low no.2 says: If u r not in a close system(the human body is not as we all pee,poo,sweat,etc..) Energy will be lost and used in making available energy!! So if u eat eggs cooked in butter with becon and few glasses of oj for breakfast,about 500/600 calories,Not all of those calories will be available for energy!! u have basal metabolic rate activities(1500 for ladies,2000 for gents)
@AaronPatinio the 1st low of thermodinamics does not say calories in= calories out!! Thermodinamics is about energy conservation they do not talk about fat storage!! low no.1 say: In A Close system energy cant be created or destroyed,It shall be conserved!! it does not say energy in=eneergy out!! Plus did u know about the low no.2??
"If you're going to store it (obligate weight gain set up by a biochemical force) and you expect to burn it, then you're going to have to eat it."
This isn't an interpretation of the 1st Law, its a segment of it - a one-directional approach. "Calories in = Calories out" is still valid.
"More insulin, more fat."
This is extremely misleading. Lipids are far more readily stored in fat cells than any carbohydrate and this process doesn't involve the insulin hormone.
@TimWeis75 Because weight loss (fat loss) is dictated by fat oxidation, not just fat storage. Your body can store all of what you take in as fat, but it will also use that stored fat for various metabolic processes. As long as an excessive amount of calories are being taken in, net weight won't increase.
Low-carb diets play on insulin sensitivity. Those with high sensitivity often store carbs quickly and experience hunger sooner than those with low sensitivity, which results in eating more.
@TimWeis75 Because theese diets cuts out 1/3 of ALL food and about 90% of all snacks, cakes, candy etc. Also, high fat / protein in a diet saturates you, meaning more saturation per calorie. This means that a person eating 5000 kcal and gaining weight with a conventional diet can eat 2500 kcal on LCHF with the same feeling of satiety. If you weigh your food and calculate your energy intake fat-loss is easy no matter the diet.
@hNk12 The word you're looking for is "satiates". And that's a very simplistic way to look at it. All diets have initial periods of "this weight is coming OFF!" But my experience with conventional "low fat" dieting says it's going to take 3x as long as the calories in vs calories out model says. (I lost 80lbs on WW, took 5 years. YMMV...)
Watch the video again. Then have some bacon and eggs and a smile. Or eat a dry pancake and wish you were dead. Choice is yours.
@TimWeis75 Thanks :) It's not at all a simplistic way to look at it, it's indeed a sober way to look at it. What you "feel" is in no way linked to what actually happens. There's no study what so ever that indicates that low fat is supperior to high fat, in fact, at the same calorie deficit the exact same results was seen. High fat diets does indeed increase fat oxidation, but in return it also increases fat storage. I am in no way against HF diets, all I'm saying is energy balance determines BW.
@hNk12 It's been proven in several clinical trials that dieters following high fat, low carb diets lose twice as much weight as those who follow low fat, calorie-restricted diets. When reviewing the food journals of the study participants, the scientists found that low carb dieters eat 10-15% more calories than those on the calorie-restricted diets.
Insulin vs Leptin. Watch this video again while enjoying a leafy salad topped with chicken, avocado, olives and full fat bleu cheese dressing. ;)
@TimWeis75 Can you please reference said clinical trials.
Alford BB, et al. (1990). The effects of variation in carbohydrate, protein, and fat content of the diet upon weight loss, blood values, and nutrient intake of adult obese women. J AM Diet Assoc. 90:534-40.
Golay A, et al. (1996). Weight-loss with low or high carbohydrate diet? Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 20:1067-72.
Wing RR, et al. (1995). Cognitive effects of ketogenic weight-reducing diets. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 19:811-6.
@AaronPatinio That last one is an observational study and attacks the "straw man low carb" diet that consists solely of meat and cheese. A real low carb diet also includes vegetables, and as such would have a complete set of vitamins, minerals and a healthy fiber intake. Coconut, avocado, olives, etc. make "healthywholegrains" look as healthy as a can of soda by comparison. (When took the time to track my nutrients, I was eating 45g+ a day of fiber on 80g total carbs, all from veg sources.)
@hNk12 While I agree with just about everything you said, I think it's important to note that low-carb doesn't always mean high-satiety. There are many people who are extremely sensitive to the effects of low blood sugar. Rather, it's when low-carb diets work that we can say its due to a greater feeling of "fullness."
@AaronPatinio high insulin prevents the release and oxidation of fats because insulin prevents Hormone sensitive lipase from working which is the first step in triglyceride breakdown and oxidation.
@drcldrcl Not trying to offend, but what is this evidence for? Insulin levels fluctuate. You aren't trying to propagate the notion that the storage-qualities of insulin contribute to net fat storage/oxidation under normal circumstances, are you? May as well mark the acylation stimulation protein as "The Cause of Obesity" by that logic.
@drcldrcl Normal conditions would want to fall within the context of the Western Diet. In humans, a De Novo Lipogenesis response occurs under conditions of carbohydrate overfeeding, hyperinsulinemia, or extremely low fat intakes. Would you consider this relevant to the average American?
While I won't argue that the postprandial response can vary between obese and lean individuals, I would like you to explain how the obese do not have "properly functioning endocrine system[s]."
@AaronPatinio well that is why they are obese. most obesity is an endocrine disorder. children dont chose to be obese. babies don't chose to be obese. why are they becoming increasingly so in the last 2 decades? SOMETHING is screwing up their endocrine system and making them store more calories than is "normal". Obviously its not a genetic thing so it must be an environmental cause. You tell me what has been the most significant change to composition of the SAD over the last 30 years?
@AaronPatinio and yes i think you could label ASP as the cause of obesity in people who can tolerate over eating fat as easy as most people can tolerate over-eating carbohydrates. (my understanding is ASP production increases in response to dietary fat intake (correct me if im wrong). Most people struggle to eat too much fat though which is precisely why the low carb diet works so well.
@drcldrcl The effectiveness of insulin to store glycogen/fat is directly related to the receptors' sensitivity: This is extremely low in many overweight individuals, which can later lead to type II diabetes. Any endocrine problem in the obese favors NOT storing calories.
@AaronPatinio the receptors in which cells? muscle and liver? i agree. i think you will find it's lean people who have adipocytes that do not express the genes for energy storage. some very thin people can eat excessively (even carbohydrate) and not gain weight because of genetics. Most people do not have the benefit of that. Excessive Carb consumption creates muscle & liver insulin resistance but not on fat cells or not to the same degree. energy shunts to the place of least resistance.
Adipose tissue, muscle, and liver insulin resistance are different, but a decrease in fat-cell sensitivity increases blood-glucose and insulin levels. Thus, t2 diabetes stands to contradict the idea of insulin-sensitive obesity.
Gene-expression (SREBP-1c etc) CAN be diff between the lean and obese, but it rarely is. Also, I know insulin can be manipulated in t1 diabetics for weight change, but this isn't relevant to the average person either.
@drcldrcl Yes, it proves the mechanism; it isn't relevant because it is an extreme condition. Nutrition should be all about dosage and context, not applying the effects of one manipulated-pathway to every person.
Low-carb can work; it is not the only (even best) cure. That is what i'm trying to prove. More importantly, I assumed you responded to me so as to discuss the topic. You weren't "indulg[ing]" me, but if you're done with the case, so am I.
@AaronPatinio yes you could sya its and extreme condition but a lot of medical progress is made when the you can examine those with the defect and understand how those abscence affects everything else. What is the best cure for obesity then? I think doctors and nutritionalists who keep up to date agree that it is the best method for weight loss AND health. watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo Yes it is about dosage. The carbohydrate dosage is too high.
@AlbertaBeefy Without a doubt, you understand what i've said and I agree with everything but your last statement. As a person suffering from metabolic syndrome or diabetes, it is important to focus on what portion of your diet can come from CHO - these values are more important than the umbrella term "low-carb."
Furthermore, weight-loss is only half the issue: This video identifies insulin/sugar as the main CAUSE of obesity...strange
@AaronPatinio type 2 diabetes is only diagnosed by a OGTT. Does not actually show what is really going on. if insulin is having no effect on the liver and muscle then the BG stays higher for longer. there is no feedback mechanism to tell the brain/pancreas why this is so more insulin put in the blood to lower BG. vicious circle of increasing insulin resistance ensues. Lustig has proven that the brain receptors for leptin are also affected by the chronic raised insulin level
@AaronPatinio i dont want to indulge you any more - low carb works for curing obesity and metabolic disorders. the evidence is very clear - it always was. the saturated fat issue has been cast aside now too. what are you trying to prove?
@drcldrcl The problem is ASP has the same effect on adipose tissue as insulin, but in response to fat. Also, protein can have a similar insulin reponse as carbs. Storage hormones aren't the cause, overconsumption is. Caloric Intake - Expenditure has always increased alongside obesity rates.
@AaronPatinio ok dont get in to thermodynamics. Obviously excess calories are the issue but how do you explain obesity in populatioins that do physical work and life on subsistence calories? Go look at africa and you will see plenty of fat people. Are they over consuming? You see families of people where the adults are obese and their children are thin and emaciated. Are the adults eating the children's food? Then in western countries you have obese 6 month olds. Why is that?
@AaronPatinio all i know is that when i cut out the sugar and wheat products i get thinner without effort. I do not feel as hungry so i eat less even though i eat lots of fat and a fair amount of saturated fat. ASP does store fat but if your body is free of insulin then the adipose tissue doesnt hang on to that fat. any textbook about adipocytes tells you the presence INSULIN inhibits HSL - the first step in TAG hydrolysis. .also how come t1 diabetics cant get fat eating fat if they have ASP?
@drcldrcl Fat-loading has been shown to inhibit HSL. Please provide the source(s) of said information: Obesity rates/caloric-intake among Africans, case studies of obese 6-month-olds, weight variations between family members, the effect of diff macro profiles on t1 diabetics, and obesity in a caloric-deficit (PM me if you have to). It's not possible make conclusions without proper information.
Anyway, congrats on your success, but not everyone finds low-carb as satisfying/viable.
@AaronPatinio if you eat more fat than you need of course you will store it. im not arguing against that. most people cannot eat too much fat though. try eating alot of fat and see how much you want to keep eating. I will give you references for everything but i do have other things to do. I'm not a biochemist just very interested in this stuff so i dont really keep records of everything but i can surely source a few things to back up what im saying.
@AaronPatinio Robert lustig himself will attest to the fat babies. As to the T1 diabetics i should have specified untreated. Do you need proof of that? It's been well known since the discovery of diabetes. Give a t1 insulin and they gain fat. teenage type 1 diabetics stop taking insulin if they want to lose weight. type 2s will tell you they start putting on weight as soon as they are put on insulin because they tend to over-medicate until they get used to carb counting. Do you not know any?
Next Time u interview him PLEASE ask him how much he got payed by Novo Nordisk and Novartis to do his presentation about the dark side of sugar.. what the person down below says about sugar not being the bad guy is correct!! well said mokugin!!!
@Peekingduck Where is it proved 100% that cutting out of my diet fruits,squashes,and white sugar is good for me? If u dont provide glucose your body will get some via gluconeogenesis as It Is InDeed Needed!! but it doesnt do it for Free!! it breaks down protein,Cortisol and Adrenaline do up,its a catabolic procedure and keeps your body in stress state!!overtime u get to what its called Adrenal fatigue!! all the best!!
@Peekingduck thanks for your comment!! i went low carb last year january,worked untill easter time,went on holidays,gained back lots weight in just 1week..went Again very very low carb.. started having mood problems,gaining weight,the more i did stck to low carb the more i gained!! so i had to look for diff answers.. and find out about Josh Rubin and Dr.Ray Peat.. Our Metabolism needs Digestable carbs to work Properly!! please do your own research!!
Nobody here answered my question!! are we sure there is no conflict of intrest behind this man??? do diabetes drug companies payed him?? Sure 100%??? glucose is essential in form of gycogen and glucose from food!! if it was not then gluconeogenesis would not take place if no carbs in the meal/diet!! low carb is really the death of metabolism!!
He isn't exactly popular with the drug industry (or the food industry) most of the time since he basically champions cutting out fructose / eating a more sensible diet as the key. Not 'this drug is the key'... He puts the whole problem and solution in your hands... don't think the market interests exactly love that. Anyway what do you have to lose by cutting out sugar and lowering your carb intake?
Do a search for 'sugar the bitter truth' and you get a deeper insight.
@mokugin81 what the hell are you talking about? Why would a diabetes company pay him to tell people how to prevent and reverse diabetes without drugs?
I Didnt say to eat starchy foods!!! I SAID to eat fruits, squashes, white sugar!! Did NOT Mention pasta, rice, etc!!!! Dont put words in my mouth!! google Low Carb diet= end of metabolism by Rob Turner.. Read the science by dr.Ray Peat and Broda Barnes!! Learn about glucose needed to support metabolism!! i did low carb for 1 year ald half!! Didnt go AnyWhere!! Gained weight not lost!! all the best!!
Thank you, Dr. Eenfeldt for uploading this very informative interview with Dr. Lustig. I have watched every video on YouTube, with Dr. Lustig or Gary Taubes explaining the connection between sugar consumption and metabolic derangement. I love how detailed oriented both men are, but some people that I talk to, who I want to help understand this information, don't want to listen to hour long lectures. This interview is superb in the sense that it summarizes Dr. Lustig and Taubes' thesis well.
@alphacause if they cant invest an hour or several to improve theirs or their families lives then they don't care enough about it. The whole thing has to be explained in the way that Taubes and Lustig by lectures and dense books precisely because it seems so heretical and crazy to most people -real proof has to be used. The only way a society brainwashed to the topsy-turvy beliefs that saturated fat is bad and sugar is harmless will be convinced. As it is said "You can lead a horse to water..."
high ammount of polyunsaturated fats cause insuline resistance as they block sugar getting to the cells so insuline is Up all the time!! glucose speeds up your metabolism, makes u convert t4 to t3, its anti ageing, it supports the thyroid, it gives u energy, etc.. please watch sugar.. the other white powder by josh rubin here on utube.. and Learn the truth about sugar.. as check dr.Ray Peat website!! all the best!!
@hitssquad thanks for your lesson!! glucose from fruits squashes and white sugar itself is needed.. im not saying eat 2bags of sugar a day.. gotta balance it with protein and saturated fats.. elevated blood sugar are caused by polyunsaturated fats that cause insuline resistance
@mokugin81 "im not saying eat 2bags of sugar a day"
Please give the number of grams of daily carbohydrate intake you recommend.
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"glucose from fruits squashes and white sugar itself is needed"
Why does Dr. Ron Rosedale say "First, let’s dispel the notion that it is necessary to eat some sugar [...]. There is no known need to eat sugar or starches.": livinlavidalowcarb. com/blog/more-safe-starches-stuff-and-why-ive-decided-not-to-test-them-on-myself/12068
are we sure the diet advices this man raccomand.. are free of conflict of intrest??? he says sugar is bad for us.. really?? sugar is glucose.. its sooo needed that if u/me do not eat it something called gluconeagenesis starts breaking down aminoacids to provide glucose to the cells.. glucose is Needed by the liver/thyroid to convert t4 in to Active T3!! Ive learnt this from dr.Ray Peat.. all the best to anyone
No. Table sugar is sucrose, which is a disaccharide composed of equal parts of glucose and fructose.
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"glucose is Needed"
Ingested glucose isn't necessarily used by the body as glucose. Unless your glucose intake exactly matches -- second by second -- your body's glucose needs, any excess is either stored as fat or contributes to elevated blood sugar which ages the body and causes all known degenerative diseases.
@mokugin81 Ingested glucose that has been stored as fat cannot be converted back to glucose to be used for the body's processes. So, once ingested glucose has been to fat, when the body later needs glucose, it gets it by converting amino acids and glycerol (from the triglycerides) into glucose.
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Therefore, consumption of glucose isn't necessarily going to reduce the incidence of gluconeogenesis in your body.
@mokugin81 Sugar, and any form of dietary glucose is NOT necessary for health. The “need” for starch consumption is a myth, which is sustained, I suspect, in part by the sugar/grain industries. Even without reference to biochemistry we can disprove this notion because we have had actual populations that could not - due to where they live - have access to starch rich foods. Examples are pre-industrial Eskimos, Inuit, and Massai and ALL human populations living before the advent of agriculture.
@alphacause "we have had actual populations that could not - due to where they live - have access to starch rich foods. Examples are [...] ALL human populations living before the advent of agriculture."
@hitssquad Okay, I stand corrected. I exaggerated when I said ALL human populations. Clearly, there are some human populations that don't need agriculture in order to get rich sources of starch, if they live in climates suitable to sustaining large amounts of root vegetables, which can be gathered. So I should have said MOST human populations before the advent of agriculture. My point was that the human body does NOT NEED dietary carbs, as proven by other populations.
This guy it #1! I hope the word spreds so we can save the world!
randydandy1974 17 hours ago
Intermittent Fasting has worked for me. I eat one day - fast the next - ON and OFF. It's not hard. Your body gets used to the routine and you are not even hungry on your fasting days.
butterflybeatles 2 days ago
@butterflybeatles "...Intermittent Fasting has worked for me. I eat one day - fast the next - ON and OFF. It's not hard..."
That might work for some people - but not for others. For Type II diabetics, for example - many of them get what are referred to as "liver dumps" when they fast, raising their blood glucose... (this is why some diabetics have high fasting readings)... and those glucose readings only get higher and higher as they fast, which is damaging...
CanadaHC 19 hours ago
All he said was that if you spike your blood sugar enough times, when the insulin your body creates to bring it back down to normal levels kicks in, you'll be conditioned to be hungry and therefore you'll eat more which means more calories in but because you're not exercising more just eating more you'll gain weight. THERE'S NO SECRET HERE AND NEWSFLASH- THAT'S NOTHING NEW!
allthederpina 3 days ago
Carbs are not bad. It's so ignorant to say they are. In the animal kingdom which we are a part of you don't see fat zebras or pigeons. They eat carbs. It's a dumb analogy but saying that you can't eat vegetables coz it will make you fat is dumb too. Look up carbs, do you even know what it is? A carb is a carb - BUT did you know that refined carbs are what's bad for you? And why? Don't set yourself up for failure PLEASE-- Education is key, there is no quick fix, no magic pill, no regime
allthederpina 3 days ago
General obesity is all about your environment, what you eat and how you move - don't give us another excuse. Common sense is gold.
allthederpina 3 days ago
Great info! Did the interviewer's voice remind anyone else of Ali G?
kchannel9 4 days ago
Monitor your own blood sugar, calories, blood fats, and mood. Then, make single variable small adjustments and check your stats. Self experimentation to find what is right for you and your current lifestyle is what will work best. Diabetics are forced into this self checking, just to stay alive. Without objective numbers, who knows what your choices are doing to your body?
Eric3Frog 6 days ago
Eat an unrefined diet. Be moderate in all three macro nutrients and see what ratios work for you in terms of satiety, blood work, and weight loss. Calories DO matter.
An endurance athlete will generally tolerate (and possibly benefit from) more carbs than a desk worker. The issue of carb, fat, and protein consumption is not black and white. Dr. Bernstein's approach of small adjustments and monitoring should be used by all... even people who believe in high carb/ low fat diets.
Eric3Frog 6 days ago
I essentially agree, but something's missing: "80-10-10"-ers, some of the biggest sugar-eaters, are virtually never fat: They eat all they want, whenever they want, yet are often accused of being anorexic. Fresh, whole, raw fruits & vegetables(mostly green). 80%carbs/10% protein/10% fat. Virtually all the calories are from sugar in fruit. Yes, Lustig takes into consideration the mitigating effect of fruit's fiber & micronutrients, but this doesn't account for its completely opposite effect.
lazur1 6 days ago
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@lazur1 "80-10-10'ers...Lustig ... doesn't account for its completely opposite effect..."
I think most 80-10-10'ers are lean because the lifestyle involves LOTS of exercise - they're all outdoor enthusiasts, or everyone I've ever seen. Others don't eat many calories on that diet. BUT lean doesn't mean healthy... Not to mention they LOSE muscle mass. Long-term, they look positively emaciated - like meth addicts. That's NOT HEALTHY.
And, what are their blood glucose levels like?
CanadaHC 19 hours ago
Here's a good policy - end corn subsidies. My taxpayer dollar to pay for GM high fructose corn syrup for people to consume so that they can increase the cost of my health insurance? insanity
kroovyandcal 6 days ago
Gee it took a loooooonnnnnnngggggggggggggggggg time to get to his point that reducing insulin is the key. Problem is reducing insulin not good/healthy for the body.
gr8vibes2 6 days ago
What about the effects of Hashimoto's thryoiditis, hypothyroid, and stress on fat storage? There are many women who chronically starve themselves, and are still unable to lose weight? Whereas your explanation explains the problem for 90% of the population, there are those with eating disorders who still cannot lose weight. Do you have any research available for this?
LiandaLudwig 6 days ago
@LiandaLudwig watching this for I know someone close to me who is hashi/hypo/pcos/gluten intolerant and cannot lose weight. She is organic, gluten free and is beginning a grain/sugar free diet. ANYTHING. She is allergic to corn, to soy, most meats that are fed these two, as well. Does NOT drink soda. Eats some berries or apples. Grapefruit. Mainly grass fed beef and veggies/salads. Works two part time jobs and is a full time student. No time to sit around and eat/drink!
sammietheodore2012 6 days ago
@sammietheodore2012 Your friend is doing everything right, but stress throws a monkey wrench into the mix. It sounds like she needs some REST and balance in her life. Do check out my site for information about how stress, and lack of sleep can prevent weight loss. ALSO, UNDER treated condition is thyroid. She may need a very good doctor to try other natural treatment. Also, for some people it takes a VERY low carb count- under 20 grams- have her write down every thing she's eating and check.
LiandaLudwig 6 days ago
@LiandaLudwig Thank you. She is going to try more raw veggie dishes, juicing and omit as much carb as possible. (I will too, in support)
sammietheodore2012 5 days ago
@sammietheodore2012 - Really the thing I would recommend is for her to have more GOOD Fats: coconut oil, avocado oil, fish oil, and more pasture raised meat - That will make her feel full, and then she'll have more of a feeling of fullness, and satiation - and want to eat LESS carbs because she's full. Avoid the juicing, especially if it's fruits. Make sure you get my report on my site to see what the avoid, and to understand what to eat for good food choices.
LiandaLudwig 5 days ago
@LiandaLudwig Will suggest - oils will help SO much - we have been brainwashed to believe canola and corn is the ONLY way to go. She also needs to realize feelings between real true hunger and just "something" else. Do you know if there is any nutritional difference in "grass fed" and "grass finished" I heard both. I understand finish is the end...animal could have had grains - but isn't grass fed grass finished as well? thanks for the info!! :)
sammietheodore2012 1 day ago
@sammietheodore2012 Personally, I've found getting rid of the processed/refined oils and eating natural oils has made great differences in my skin, hair and overall health. I now only eat animal fats (butter, lard, etc.) and natural oils like pressed olive oil, coconut oil, palm oil, etc.
If you squeeze it and oil comes out, it's natural. That doesn't happen with corn, soybeans, etc.
CanadaHC 18 hours ago
@sammietheodore2012 Oh... and one of the WORST oils is cottonseed oil - it's scary.
Technically, cotton isn't classified as food by the FDA or USDA, so the growers can do ANYTHING they want to cottonseed before refining it, because it's NOT food. (There are more standards with corn oil, canola oil, soybean oil, etc. because those are classified as food.)
It's one of the most polluted things we could possibly put into our bodies - cottonseed oil. Avoid it like the plague.
CanadaHC 18 hours ago
@sammietheodore2012 I think you have the right idea in your description- It sounds like another way to mislead the public. They feed the animals grains (HFCS, and GM corn, soy) and then let them live the last week on grass? I think it's important to find out more about that!
LiandaLudwig 14 hours ago
In my personal experience what the doctor says is true fast food restaurants give you a discount on the value meals because they want you to drink lots of soda hoping it will make you more hungry and buy more food, this is why everytime I get a value meal at a fast food restaurant I am just as hungry when I leave as when I got there.
CeletenteFan223 6 days ago
Fructose surely can't be the cause of obesity. Look at fruitarians, raw foodists, 80/10/10 dieters and people who eat alot of fruit in general they're all in shape and have low bodyfat. Or am I confusing fructose for fruit sugar? I thought fructose was fruit sugar.
leahcimrac 1 week ago
@leahcimrac Not so sure they have low bodyfat, you don't see a lot of raw food people with six pack abs and a powerful physique. Lots of fruit will destroy insuline sensitivity as far as I know. Just my thoughts!
swetec1 1 week ago
@swetec1 Thats fair enough, but as i know a lot of raw foodist who train then you're wrong about your first part of your comment. I'm not having a go at you or anything, but i know a lot of raw foodists and fruitarians who have a very hard time putting fat on thus they have six pack and lean physiques. I also know some raw food bodybuilders and I can promise you they're muscle and strength can rival anything else. Thanks for your reply btw, please don't be offended by my reply.
leahcimrac 6 days ago
I don't know much about biology or chemistry but yes that 13:26 example seems to make more sense than his 90 minute video to me. I do think food addiction is contributing and just habit but I guess I see where he's coming from. Shame so many foods contain sugar :(
scottylans 1 week ago
Mother nature had the solution all along. Breast milk is about 60% fat about 15% carbs & 25% protein. Work a diet on that basis & you'll be slim & healthy. Remember....it's not nice to fool Mother Nature
MrLetsdance 1 week ago 2
I love when some ignorant douchebag comes here and states the person is wrong because they're fat... then tells people to go eat 80/10/10 which is incredibly unhealthy, nutrient deficient and proven dangerous.
Vegan diets have, IN FACT, killed people.
We NEED the nutrients found in meat. If you don't eat meat, you MUST supplement B12 at a minimum. You must also get regular blood panels drawn and supplement all necessary nutrients that you're low on.
CanadaHC 2 weeks ago 2
@CanadaHC Raw whey protein & eggs have everything and more than meat does.
CeletenteFan223 6 days ago
@CeletenteFan223 Yeah a lot more cancer food/unhealth.
gr8vibes2 6 days ago
wow this doctor is a retard
people arent responsible for being obese? yes im sure we would find loads of obese people going back 100 years, oh wait...most people were skinny back then?
I guess this eating less and not sitting on your ass 24/7 can make you lose weight LOLOLOL
noldorian86 2 weeks ago
@noldorian86 100 years ago, there were no mcdonalds, and many other processed food. did you bother watching his 1h30 min lecture before commenting? i didn't know you were such an expert.
RMT87 2 weeks ago
@noldorian86 Obesity has increased as we've increased the amounts of refined/processed carbs/sugars and refined/processed oils in our diets.
At the same time we've increased consumption of this CRAP we've also reduced consumption of healthy fats/oils that nature gave us...
It's pretty easy to see the connection unless you're extremely ignorant.
CanadaHC 2 weeks ago 3
@CanadaHC ya but are you advocating that people stop eating carbs or what?
noldorian86 2 weeks ago
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@noldorian86 "...are you advocating that people stop eating carbs..."
I believe that depends on the individual. People who are NOT affected by metabolic-syndrome, pre-diabetes or diabetes really have NO reason to cut their carbohydrate intake, EXCEPT that we ALL should eliminated refined/processed carbs/sugars.
Obese people with no disorder of their CHO-metabolism can lose weigh by reducing calories (NEVER below BMR), cut refined/processed carbs/sugars, and exercise (HIIT).
CanadaHC 1 week ago 7
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@noldorian86 "...are you advocating that people stop eating carbs..."
In addition to eliminating refined/processed carbs/sugars people should eliminate refined/processed oils AND add more non-starchy vegetables to their diet. Most don't get enough greens and colourful veggies.
But again, I feel only those with diabetes, pre-diabetes or metabolic syndrome need to go low-carb. And only until glucose 'normalizes' then start adding some back in, while staying in good control.
CanadaHC 1 week ago 7
@CanadaHC Finally! COMMON SENSE! ty!
allthederpina 3 days ago
@noldorian86 - First, I ask you respectfully, to address your disagreement to the issue, and not use disparaging names to people with whom you disagree. If you would actually like to learn about it, exercising actually makes people HUNGRIER, rather than contributing to weight loss. You can learn all about this, and why people are more overweight now than in the past by reading Gary Taubes, Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It. It explains the science, which will help you understand the issue.
LiandaLudwig 14 hours ago
many people are turning away from ketogenic diets, even mercola. you should read aubrey de grey and find out that ketones and their products are far more harmful than the effects of insulin. i have tried the low carb lifestyle and after an initial honeymoon period, metabolism slows down, cortisol rises and you end up fat and muscleless like lustig. he is fat. to deny this is ridiculous. he is also wrong about fructose. check out 30bad. there not fat at 3000 cals a day.
ceileachair 2 weeks ago
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CANT THIS INTERVIEWER SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
Rammoshe1 2 weeks ago
sjukt fattig intervjuare
jlow90jr 3 weeks ago
It's funny cause he's fat
adamal93 3 weeks ago
This guy needs to learn how to interview someone.
bobjimjones 1 month ago 2
@bobjimjones And you could do better because..... you've never done it?
DrGaryGreen 3 weeks ago
The example Dr. Lustig gave at 13:26 just blew my mind. That example just put the pieces together.
tuttutmutt1976 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 13
@tuttutmutt1976 yes, now we know exactly why when you go to a fast food restaurant & when you compare prices of a value meal vs just buying the burger & fries the drink is bacilly free because the sugar makes you eat more!
CeletenteFan223 6 days ago
@CeletenteFan223 fast food restaurants know what the Doctor is saying is true, they give you the drink free with the value meal to make you more hungry hoping you'll go back to get more food.
CeletenteFan223 6 days ago
stopped eating carbs , and started a ketogenic diet on 11/11/11, best decision i ever made! even after the dietitian at the hospital were i work told me that keto is bad for the health and fat is bad, i still did it bc i research and found NO evidence of the dietitians claims anywhere.
furenaef 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 5
@furenaef Excellent. You've peaked behind the curtain and saw the truth. One of the biggest problems with the medical community is that they forget their education as soon as they leave school. After that they are reeducated by drug sales men and "experts" they generally have an agenda.
DrGaryGreen 3 weeks ago
@DrGaryGreen could not agree more with your statement, money talks. what gets me even more mad, is that even after i showed my blood work to the dietitians at my job, obviously it was even better then the previous one blood work before i went on keto), they still said i was going to die of a heart attack. It is mind bottling to me, i just dont understand their logic. Ketogenic diet has even lowered my Bloodpressure, and i feel more energized! Low Carb lifestyle is the right choice
furenaef 3 weeks ago
@furenaef But can be hard to stick to for sugar addicts like me. We all do our best.
DrGaryGreen 3 weeks ago 2
@furenaef
cool - I started the keto diet on Feb 9 (3 weeks now) and have lost 9 lbs without feeling hungry all the time and I don;t have cravings for sugar any more - i agree the mainstream advice is obvious bullshit and one has to test the point or themselves - how is the diet working for you?
cameronvcope 3 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@cameronvcope im on like my 5th month, now im getting stronger at the gym, lost 30lb in 3 months, first 2 weeks was hard, everyone prettymuch bringing me down for doing it, family, friends, dietitians at my hospital were i work, doctors, first month was difficult getting used to it, 2 times i wanted to quit bc of the negativity by everyone, but i stuck it out, didn't listen to them, and kept going. I wake up in the morning now NEVER TIRED, i dont crash like i used to after i eat, Never giving up
furenaef 3 days ago
@cameronvcope also, im lean as Furk, and went from 19% body fat to 12%.
furenaef 3 days ago
@furenaef -- Everything in life has side-effects.
allthederpina 3 days ago
if you learn to love yourself you'll live and eat healthier
alltheway62 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio: I disagree. Focusing on proper foods is everything because you can't really focus on anything else, maybe environment, buts its far easier to experiment with foods/supplements then that. But it still holds, that if you are not hungry, you will not eat, so you need to focus on stuff that doesn't make you hungry for a start. Sugar is obvious, its so addictive that anti-narcotics are used to prevent binge. Not a sole one obviously, but - think THC for instance - domininat for sure.
majkinetor 1 month ago
See how they are tricking us to overeat. Google: Sugar the Bitter Truth children's version
rmohyi 1 month ago
@AaronPatino: And then you are hungry, like I said... I didn't mention ghrelin as sole factor. However, when you are not hungry, you are not going to eat no matter what hormonal set is playing to accomplish that.
Please define "proper food." - Proper food makes you unsick, energetic, non-obese , all in all, makes you feel good. In my case that is non-industrial food of animal or microbial origin with lots of green vegetables and nuts.
majkinetor 1 month ago
@majkinetor The idea is that there are many factors to blame for hunger, and they are not the only markers of whether a person will eat or not. Ghrelin, leptin, blood-glucose, PYY, CCK, and insulin are just a few, respond to carbs/protein/fats, regulate short and long-term hunger, and interact. Focusing on such "proper foods" is meaningless
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio and @LCHFinCanada: The point is, that you don't want to eat when you eat proper food. Thats why caloric excess is meaningless - nobody eats when its not hungry. So the deduction doesn't go as "calorie restriction of shitty food -> fat burn" BUT "ad libitum intake of good food -> spontaneous calorie restriction -> fat burn"
majkinetor 1 month ago
@majkinetor "Nobody eats when they're not hungry." This is not true, and there are many hormonal pathways that signal hunger other than ghrelin. Simply being at very low body-fat percentages can cause sensations of constant hunger regardless of what food is eaten.
Please define "proper food."
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@majkinetor "nobody eats when it's not hungry" this is completely untrue.
There are MANY people that eat and over-eat due to emotional/psychological issues. These people will eat for many and varied reasons, but they most certainly eat when not hungry.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@majkinetor "nobody eats when it's not hungry" and it depends on how you define "hunger"...
excess insulin levels are shown to induce cravings in many, many people even though they are not physically in need of food. The "Chinese Food hungry an hour later" effect, for example.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
I would also like to point out that popular voices, such as Lustig and Taubes, should put more emphasis on caloric intake when it comes to weight gain/loss/maintenance. They are doing a huge disservice to their audience by strictly pulling the insulin or leptin alarm.
I have had people tell me a caloric surplus made of "healthy" foods will result in weight loss. Is this what they want as their take-away message?
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio I agree - for many people, especially with the morbidly obese, there is a psychological and/or emotional component to their eating that modifying diet alone will not correct.
Interestingly though, there are a couple studies now that show that those who overeat FAT are less likely to gain weight than those who overeat carbohydrate. I found those quite interesting to study - that does bear further research.
But yes, any caloric excess can still lead to weight-gain.
LCHFinCanada 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio so basically I'm agreeing with you here on there being no "umbrella term" of low-carb that fits everyone.
Oh, I also find for myself it's best to keep my carb intake lowest at breakfast. I don't know why, but my glycemic control is best if I do that.
Today's breakfast, for example, is a little over 500 calories, 41g of protein, 38g of fat and 2g of carbohydrate.
My sources of carbs, fyi, are non-starchy vegetables (any & all of 'em) and minimal low-gi fruit (mostly berries).
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@AlbertaBeefy I don't mean to pick at what constitutes "low-carb" (generally 5%-35% CHO/overall intake); the effects of insulin on diabetics calls for carb-control. Someone restricting their CHO from 65% to 50% to reduce insulin resistance but maintain insulin satiety effects would not, by any dietician, be considered "low-carb." People seem to see things in B&W: Insulin in high levels cause negative effects, therefore reduce to a predominantly fat-centered diet. This is not logically valid.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
"Low-Carb" when speaking in a diet context is typically best-determined by an obesity specialist dealing with the individual.
Biological Individuality tells us there is no "umbrella" term that everybody will fit into.
For me, as an example, I started with Dr. Richard Bernstein's recommendations of 30g per day - 6/12/12 at breakfast/lunch/supper and once I maintained better glycemic control and lost visceral bodyfat, started adding more in.
I now regularly eat about 60g.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
hm kuckt auf mich bin n hamster
ViolaMaishapz46 2 months ago
I eat less and exercise more and I lose weight. I guess I'm full of shit.
daBOODA 2 months ago 2
@daBOODA Thats not what he is saying. He's saying it's not literally eat 1lb of food you can lose exactly 1lb of weight by exercising N amount of time. He's saying it depends on what you eat. If you eat a 1lb of meat and workout for, lets say 1hr, you'll burn off more fat then if you ate 1lb of sugar and exercised the same amount of time. No doctor would ever dispute this, so, i guess, you are full of shit.
oscargodson 2 months ago
i was listening to his interview on the radio show of sean croxton.. OMG how many BS this guy did say! then when asked what he had eaten that day he said: half bagel for breakfast with cheddar cheese,then he had lunch(didnt say what!)and he added he was nit hungry that day.. LoL!!! bagel for breakfast?doesnt he know thats pure glucose?isnt he saying to avoid it in first place? at leat he could have said he had eggs and bacon..
SaturatedFatsLover 3 months ago
@SaturatedFatsLover He says avoid fructose not glucose.
Esoparagon 2 months ago
@SaturatedFatsLover Seems he may have changed his mind lately. He did say low carb in this video.
Esoparagon 2 months ago
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deepcut66 3 months ago
Now we need Dr.Enfeldt to guinea pig himself by injecting insulin into his body while staying true to his LCHF eating plan.This would be a remarkable test and proof of the insulin theory.
wolfstriked 3 months ago
@wolfstriked that would be dangerous. Insulin lowers blood sugar. Easiest way to kill someone with normal blood sugar is with insulin. Which part is theory? Insulin stores calories why do you think type 1 untreated diabetics become emaciated with super high blood urine sugars? Because they have no insulin to store anything.
drcldrcl 2 months ago
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wolfstriked 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio not all the calories we eat must be burn for energy but moving,walking, working, exercising etc.. energy is lost all the time when u sweat,pee,poo,your body does basal metabolic activities,etc.. so think that if u r gonna eat a 600/700 meal now then u have to burn those tot cal untill your next meal otherwise u gain weight is a bit silly but who dont know what the low says ends up thinking this bad informations!!
mokugin81 3 months ago
@mokugin81 No one is saying you need to burn off every meal with physical activity, nor that the human body is a closed system. What we know is that the energy put into the human body is either lost to chemical processes or stored. That is what the first law gives us; that is "Calories in = Calories out." I'm not sure where your contention arises.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio low no.2 says: If u r not in a close system(the human body is not as we all pee,poo,sweat,etc..) Energy will be lost and used in making available energy!! So if u eat eggs cooked in butter with becon and few glasses of oj for breakfast,about 500/600 calories,Not all of those calories will be available for energy!! u have basal metabolic rate activities(1500 for ladies,2000 for gents)
mokugin81 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio the 1st low of thermodinamics does not say calories in= calories out!! Thermodinamics is about energy conservation they do not talk about fat storage!! low no.1 say: In A Close system energy cant be created or destroyed,It shall be conserved!! it does not say energy in=eneergy out!! Plus did u know about the low no.2??
mokugin81 3 months ago
"If you're going to store it (obligate weight gain set up by a biochemical force) and you expect to burn it, then you're going to have to eat it."
This isn't an interpretation of the 1st Law, its a segment of it - a one-directional approach. "Calories in = Calories out" is still valid.
"More insulin, more fat."
This is extremely misleading. Lipids are far more readily stored in fat cells than any carbohydrate and this process doesn't involve the insulin hormone.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio If lipids are stored easily and that process doesn't involve insulin, then why do low carb diets work? (Not attacking, just asking.)
TimWeis75 3 months ago
@TimWeis75 Because weight loss (fat loss) is dictated by fat oxidation, not just fat storage. Your body can store all of what you take in as fat, but it will also use that stored fat for various metabolic processes. As long as an excessive amount of calories are being taken in, net weight won't increase.
Low-carb diets play on insulin sensitivity. Those with high sensitivity often store carbs quickly and experience hunger sooner than those with low sensitivity, which results in eating more.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio 'As long as an excessive amount of calories [aren't] being taken in.' Sorry for the typo.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@TimWeis75 Because theese diets cuts out 1/3 of ALL food and about 90% of all snacks, cakes, candy etc. Also, high fat / protein in a diet saturates you, meaning more saturation per calorie. This means that a person eating 5000 kcal and gaining weight with a conventional diet can eat 2500 kcal on LCHF with the same feeling of satiety. If you weigh your food and calculate your energy intake fat-loss is easy no matter the diet.
hNk12 3 months ago
@hNk12 The word you're looking for is "satiates". And that's a very simplistic way to look at it. All diets have initial periods of "this weight is coming OFF!" But my experience with conventional "low fat" dieting says it's going to take 3x as long as the calories in vs calories out model says. (I lost 80lbs on WW, took 5 years. YMMV...)
Watch the video again. Then have some bacon and eggs and a smile. Or eat a dry pancake and wish you were dead. Choice is yours.
TimWeis75 3 months ago
@TimWeis75 Thanks :) It's not at all a simplistic way to look at it, it's indeed a sober way to look at it. What you "feel" is in no way linked to what actually happens. There's no study what so ever that indicates that low fat is supperior to high fat, in fact, at the same calorie deficit the exact same results was seen. High fat diets does indeed increase fat oxidation, but in return it also increases fat storage. I am in no way against HF diets, all I'm saying is energy balance determines BW.
hNk12 3 months ago
@hNk12 It's been proven in several clinical trials that dieters following high fat, low carb diets lose twice as much weight as those who follow low fat, calorie-restricted diets. When reviewing the food journals of the study participants, the scientists found that low carb dieters eat 10-15% more calories than those on the calorie-restricted diets.
Insulin vs Leptin. Watch this video again while enjoying a leafy salad topped with chicken, avocado, olives and full fat bleu cheese dressing. ;)
TimWeis75 3 months ago
@TimWeis75 Can you please reference said clinical trials.
Alford BB, et al. (1990). The effects of variation in carbohydrate, protein, and fat content of the diet upon weight loss, blood values, and nutrient intake of adult obese women. J AM Diet Assoc. 90:534-40.
Golay A, et al. (1996). Weight-loss with low or high carbohydrate diet? Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 20:1067-72.
Wing RR, et al. (1995). Cognitive effects of ketogenic weight-reducing diets. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 19:811-6.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@TimWeis75
Freedman MR, et al. (2001). Popular Diets A Scientific Review. Obesity Research. Vol.9 Suppl. 1 March
Foreyt JP, et al. (2009) Weight-reducing diets: are there any differences? Nutr Rev. 67 Suppl 1:S99-101.
These all seem to say otherwise. I'd give the last one a read; it sums things up quite nicely.
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio That last one is an observational study and attacks the "straw man low carb" diet that consists solely of meat and cheese. A real low carb diet also includes vegetables, and as such would have a complete set of vitamins, minerals and a healthy fiber intake. Coconut, avocado, olives, etc. make "healthywholegrains" look as healthy as a can of soda by comparison. (When took the time to track my nutrients, I was eating 45g+ a day of fiber on 80g total carbs, all from veg sources.)
TimWeis75 3 months ago
@TimWeis75 The last one is a meta-analysis, not an observational study. It also never includes the word "meat" or "cheese."
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@hNk12 While I agree with just about everything you said, I think it's important to note that low-carb doesn't always mean high-satiety. There are many people who are extremely sensitive to the effects of low blood sugar. Rather, it's when low-carb diets work that we can say its due to a greater feeling of "fullness."
AaronPatinio 3 months ago
@AaronPatinio high insulin prevents the release and oxidation of fats because insulin prevents Hormone sensitive lipase from working which is the first step in triglyceride breakdown and oxidation.
drcldrcl 2 months ago
@drcldrcl Not trying to offend, but what is this evidence for? Insulin levels fluctuate. You aren't trying to propagate the notion that the storage-qualities of insulin contribute to net fat storage/oxidation under normal circumstances, are you? May as well mark the acylation stimulation protein as "The Cause of Obesity" by that logic.
AaronPatinio 2 months ago
@AaronPatinio define normal circumstances. An obese person does not have a properly functioning endocrine system.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl Normal conditions would want to fall within the context of the Western Diet. In humans, a De Novo Lipogenesis response occurs under conditions of carbohydrate overfeeding, hyperinsulinemia, or extremely low fat intakes. Would you consider this relevant to the average American?
While I won't argue that the postprandial response can vary between obese and lean individuals, I would like you to explain how the obese do not have "properly functioning endocrine system[s]."
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio well that is why they are obese. most obesity is an endocrine disorder. children dont chose to be obese. babies don't chose to be obese. why are they becoming increasingly so in the last 2 decades? SOMETHING is screwing up their endocrine system and making them store more calories than is "normal". Obviously its not a genetic thing so it must be an environmental cause. You tell me what has been the most significant change to composition of the SAD over the last 30 years?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio and yes i think you could label ASP as the cause of obesity in people who can tolerate over eating fat as easy as most people can tolerate over-eating carbohydrates. (my understanding is ASP production increases in response to dietary fat intake (correct me if im wrong). Most people struggle to eat too much fat though which is precisely why the low carb diet works so well.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl The effectiveness of insulin to store glycogen/fat is directly related to the receptors' sensitivity: This is extremely low in many overweight individuals, which can later lead to type II diabetes. Any endocrine problem in the obese favors NOT storing calories.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio the receptors in which cells? muscle and liver? i agree. i think you will find it's lean people who have adipocytes that do not express the genes for energy storage. some very thin people can eat excessively (even carbohydrate) and not gain weight because of genetics. Most people do not have the benefit of that. Excessive Carb consumption creates muscle & liver insulin resistance but not on fat cells or not to the same degree. energy shunts to the place of least resistance.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl Alright, cool; there's no hurry really.
Adipose tissue, muscle, and liver insulin resistance are different, but a decrease in fat-cell sensitivity increases blood-glucose and insulin levels. Thus, t2 diabetes stands to contradict the idea of insulin-sensitive obesity.
Gene-expression (SREBP-1c etc) CAN be diff between the lean and obese, but it rarely is. Also, I know insulin can be manipulated in t1 diabetics for weight change, but this isn't relevant to the average person either.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio why isnt it relevant? it proves the mechanism.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl Yes, it proves the mechanism; it isn't relevant because it is an extreme condition. Nutrition should be all about dosage and context, not applying the effects of one manipulated-pathway to every person.
Low-carb can work; it is not the only (even best) cure. That is what i'm trying to prove. More importantly, I assumed you responded to me so as to discuss the topic. You weren't "indulg[ing]" me, but if you're done with the case, so am I.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio yes you could sya its and extreme condition but a lot of medical progress is made when the you can examine those with the defect and understand how those abscence affects everything else. What is the best cure for obesity then? I think doctors and nutritionalists who keep up to date agree that it is the best method for weight loss AND health. watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo Yes it is about dosage. The carbohydrate dosage is too high.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio If I understand you, I certainly agree with you.
I think it's important to note that for some people, but not all, low-carb will be the best option for weight-loss and health concerns.
For other people, eating a low-fat diet seems to work best.
The concept of biological individuality comes into play, and because of this there is no "one-size-fits-all" diet for everyone.
I think low-carb is LIKELY best for the obese with metabolic syndrome or diabetes, though.
AlbertaBeefy 1 month ago
@AlbertaBeefy Without a doubt, you understand what i've said and I agree with everything but your last statement. As a person suffering from metabolic syndrome or diabetes, it is important to focus on what portion of your diet can come from CHO - these values are more important than the umbrella term "low-carb."
Furthermore, weight-loss is only half the issue: This video identifies insulin/sugar as the main CAUSE of obesity...strange
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio type 2 diabetes is only diagnosed by a OGTT. Does not actually show what is really going on. if insulin is having no effect on the liver and muscle then the BG stays higher for longer. there is no feedback mechanism to tell the brain/pancreas why this is so more insulin put in the blood to lower BG. vicious circle of increasing insulin resistance ensues. Lustig has proven that the brain receptors for leptin are also affected by the chronic raised insulin level
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio i didnt say fat cells get less sensitive anyway
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio i dont want to indulge you any more - low carb works for curing obesity and metabolic disorders. the evidence is very clear - it always was. the saturated fat issue has been cast aside now too. what are you trying to prove?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl The problem is ASP has the same effect on adipose tissue as insulin, but in response to fat. Also, protein can have a similar insulin reponse as carbs. Storage hormones aren't the cause, overconsumption is. Caloric Intake - Expenditure has always increased alongside obesity rates.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio ok dont get in to thermodynamics. Obviously excess calories are the issue but how do you explain obesity in populatioins that do physical work and life on subsistence calories? Go look at africa and you will see plenty of fat people. Are they over consuming? You see families of people where the adults are obese and their children are thin and emaciated. Are the adults eating the children's food? Then in western countries you have obese 6 month olds. Why is that?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio all i know is that when i cut out the sugar and wheat products i get thinner without effort. I do not feel as hungry so i eat less even though i eat lots of fat and a fair amount of saturated fat. ASP does store fat but if your body is free of insulin then the adipose tissue doesnt hang on to that fat. any textbook about adipocytes tells you the presence INSULIN inhibits HSL - the first step in TAG hydrolysis. .also how come t1 diabetics cant get fat eating fat if they have ASP?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@drcldrcl Fat-loading has been shown to inhibit HSL. Please provide the source(s) of said information: Obesity rates/caloric-intake among Africans, case studies of obese 6-month-olds, weight variations between family members, the effect of diff macro profiles on t1 diabetics, and obesity in a caloric-deficit (PM me if you have to). It's not possible make conclusions without proper information.
Anyway, congrats on your success, but not everyone finds low-carb as satisfying/viable.
AaronPatinio 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio if you eat more fat than you need of course you will store it. im not arguing against that. most people cannot eat too much fat though. try eating alot of fat and see how much you want to keep eating. I will give you references for everything but i do have other things to do. I'm not a biochemist just very interested in this stuff so i dont really keep records of everything but i can surely source a few things to back up what im saying.
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@AaronPatinio Robert lustig himself will attest to the fat babies. As to the T1 diabetics i should have specified untreated. Do you need proof of that? It's been well known since the discovery of diabetes. Give a t1 insulin and they gain fat. teenage type 1 diabetics stop taking insulin if they want to lose weight. type 2s will tell you they start putting on weight as soon as they are put on insulin because they tend to over-medicate until they get used to carb counting. Do you not know any?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
oh!!! well said SaturatedfatLover!! spot On!!! i didnt know eaxactly the names of those drug companies.. now everybody does!! cheers!!
mokugin81 3 months ago
Next Time u interview him PLEASE ask him how much he got payed by Novo Nordisk and Novartis to do his presentation about the dark side of sugar.. what the person down below says about sugar not being the bad guy is correct!! well said mokugin!!!
SaturatedFatsLover 3 months ago
@SaturatedFatsLover why would they pay him? what are they getting out of it?
drcldrcl 1 month ago
@Peekingduck Where is it proved 100% that cutting out of my diet fruits,squashes,and white sugar is good for me? If u dont provide glucose your body will get some via gluconeogenesis as It Is InDeed Needed!! but it doesnt do it for Free!! it breaks down protein,Cortisol and Adrenaline do up,its a catabolic procedure and keeps your body in stress state!!overtime u get to what its called Adrenal fatigue!! all the best!!
mokugin81 4 months ago
@mokugin81 A strawman might have said that, but Dr. Lustig never has. One of his mantra's is that if sugar is a poison, fiber is the antidote.
1. Dietary Fiber obstructs sugar diffusion, decreasing the rate of sugar uptake into the blood stream from the digestive system.
2. Fiber causes food to pass through your digestive system faster.
So fruits and vegetables are fine. They have way more fiber than sugar. Refined sugars without dietary fiber are the problem.
Satarack 3 months ago
@mokugin81 so how does anyone ever burn fat?
drcldrcl 2 months ago
@Peekingduck thanks for your comment!! i went low carb last year january,worked untill easter time,went on holidays,gained back lots weight in just 1week..went Again very very low carb.. started having mood problems,gaining weight,the more i did stck to low carb the more i gained!! so i had to look for diff answers.. and find out about Josh Rubin and Dr.Ray Peat.. Our Metabolism needs Digestable carbs to work Properly!! please do your own research!!
mokugin81 4 months ago
Brilliant !
Peekingduck 4 months ago
Nobody here answered my question!! are we sure there is no conflict of intrest behind this man??? do diabetes drug companies payed him?? Sure 100%??? glucose is essential in form of gycogen and glucose from food!! if it was not then gluconeogenesis would not take place if no carbs in the meal/diet!! low carb is really the death of metabolism!!
mokugin81 4 months ago
@mokugin81
Pretty much !
He isn't exactly popular with the drug industry (or the food industry) most of the time since he basically champions cutting out fructose / eating a more sensible diet as the key. Not 'this drug is the key'... He puts the whole problem and solution in your hands... don't think the market interests exactly love that. Anyway what do you have to lose by cutting out sugar and lowering your carb intake?
Do a search for 'sugar the bitter truth' and you get a deeper insight.
Peekingduck 4 months ago
@mokugin81 what the hell are you talking about? Why would a diabetes company pay him to tell people how to prevent and reverse diabetes without drugs?
drcldrcl 2 months ago
I Didnt say to eat starchy foods!!! I SAID to eat fruits, squashes, white sugar!! Did NOT Mention pasta, rice, etc!!!! Dont put words in my mouth!! google Low Carb diet= end of metabolism by Rob Turner.. Read the science by dr.Ray Peat and Broda Barnes!! Learn about glucose needed to support metabolism!! i did low carb for 1 year ald half!! Didnt go AnyWhere!! Gained weight not lost!! all the best!!
mokugin81 4 months ago
Thank you, Dr. Eenfeldt for uploading this very informative interview with Dr. Lustig. I have watched every video on YouTube, with Dr. Lustig or Gary Taubes explaining the connection between sugar consumption and metabolic derangement. I love how detailed oriented both men are, but some people that I talk to, who I want to help understand this information, don't want to listen to hour long lectures. This interview is superb in the sense that it summarizes Dr. Lustig and Taubes' thesis well.
alphacause 4 months ago
@alphacause if they cant invest an hour or several to improve theirs or their families lives then they don't care enough about it. The whole thing has to be explained in the way that Taubes and Lustig by lectures and dense books precisely because it seems so heretical and crazy to most people -real proof has to be used. The only way a society brainwashed to the topsy-turvy beliefs that saturated fat is bad and sugar is harmless will be convinced. As it is said "You can lead a horse to water..."
drcldrcl 2 months ago
high ammount of polyunsaturated fats cause insuline resistance as they block sugar getting to the cells so insuline is Up all the time!! glucose speeds up your metabolism, makes u convert t4 to t3, its anti ageing, it supports the thyroid, it gives u energy, etc.. please watch sugar.. the other white powder by josh rubin here on utube.. and Learn the truth about sugar.. as check dr.Ray Peat website!! all the best!!
mokugin81 4 months ago
@hitssquad thanks for your lesson!! glucose from fruits squashes and white sugar itself is needed.. im not saying eat 2bags of sugar a day.. gotta balance it with protein and saturated fats.. elevated blood sugar are caused by polyunsaturated fats that cause insuline resistance
mokugin81 4 months ago
@mokugin81 "im not saying eat 2bags of sugar a day"
Please give the number of grams of daily carbohydrate intake you recommend.
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"glucose from fruits squashes and white sugar itself is needed"
Why does Dr. Ron Rosedale say "First, let’s dispel the notion that it is necessary to eat some sugar [...]. There is no known need to eat sugar or starches.": livinlavidalowcarb. com/blog/more-safe-starches-stuff-and-why-ive-decided-not-to-test-them-on-myself/12068
hitssquad 4 months ago
are we sure the diet advices this man raccomand.. are free of conflict of intrest??? he says sugar is bad for us.. really?? sugar is glucose.. its sooo needed that if u/me do not eat it something called gluconeagenesis starts breaking down aminoacids to provide glucose to the cells.. glucose is Needed by the liver/thyroid to convert t4 in to Active T3!! Ive learnt this from dr.Ray Peat.. all the best to anyone
mokugin81 4 months ago
@mokugin81 "sugar is glucose"
No. Table sugar is sucrose, which is a disaccharide composed of equal parts of glucose and fructose.
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"glucose is Needed"
Ingested glucose isn't necessarily used by the body as glucose. Unless your glucose intake exactly matches -- second by second -- your body's glucose needs, any excess is either stored as fat or contributes to elevated blood sugar which ages the body and causes all known degenerative diseases.
hitssquad 4 months ago
@mokugin81 Ingested glucose that has been stored as fat cannot be converted back to glucose to be used for the body's processes. So, once ingested glucose has been to fat, when the body later needs glucose, it gets it by converting amino acids and glycerol (from the triglycerides) into glucose.
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Therefore, consumption of glucose isn't necessarily going to reduce the incidence of gluconeogenesis in your body.
hitssquad 4 months ago
@mokugin81 Sugar, and any form of dietary glucose is NOT necessary for health. The “need” for starch consumption is a myth, which is sustained, I suspect, in part by the sugar/grain industries. Even without reference to biochemistry we can disprove this notion because we have had actual populations that could not - due to where they live - have access to starch rich foods. Examples are pre-industrial Eskimos, Inuit, and Massai and ALL human populations living before the advent of agriculture.
alphacause 4 months ago 2
@alphacause "we have had actual populations that could not - due to where they live - have access to starch rich foods. Examples are [...] ALL human populations living before the advent of agriculture."
What about the Kitavans?
hitssquad 4 months ago
@hitssquad Okay, I stand corrected. I exaggerated when I said ALL human populations. Clearly, there are some human populations that don't need agriculture in order to get rich sources of starch, if they live in climates suitable to sustaining large amounts of root vegetables, which can be gathered. So I should have said MOST human populations before the advent of agriculture. My point was that the human body does NOT NEED dietary carbs, as proven by other populations.
alphacause 4 months ago
Great interview, Andreas. Lustig came out very well here, calm and very clear.
ojtrumpet 4 months ago