Logic is defined by God and his thinking, so therefore also defined by his Holy Word. Where do we find God´s word? In the canon of the Bible - the 66 books which are consistently revealing God´s will, law and call to repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
@FallaciesDetective The statement "Logic is defined by God" is a Non-Sequitur fallacy. You are off the the rails before you have even begun my friend.
@FallaciesDetective Greetings to you as well :) The reason it is a non-sequitur fallacy is because the statement "Logic is defined by God" is an assumption. In other words, you are working backwards from a conclusion [God defines logic ] and that violates the principles of logical reasoning. I could no more argue the contrary [God does not exist] without committing the same fallacy, thus [if we are honest] we either defer to faith or skepticism. Either way, we cannot claim to know.
@VenomOXP O.k., now I understand better, thank you. I have a question that bothers me: isn´t a fallacy false reasoning? So how can my assumption be a fallacy? I did not intend to prove anything by reasoning here, that´s what bothers my Colombo-old-nose here... Isn´t it obvious that from dead matter and chance nothing like this universe can derive? That´s another thing I am concerned of. Greeetings! Hope you see that I am not in attacking-mode, but these questions are justified, I think.
@FallaciesDetective They are justified indeed, and i certainly do not mean to give off the impression of smugness or pompousness. :) You are correct, a fallacy is indeed incorrect reasoning. I took your original statement "Logic is defined by God and his thinking" to be a declaration of fact. Non-sequitur refers to a disconnection between the premise and conclusion of an argument, thus your original statement assumes a conclusion "God exists to define logic" and works backwards from there.
@VenomOXP Even assumptions are formulated through rational and/or logical thought, thus assumptions can be as much fallacious as they can be logical. Faith does not suffer this criteria however, as it is an emotional means of thinking, rather than a logical one [though it can be both]. To your second point, you ask "Isn´t it obvious that from dead matter and chance nothing like this universe can derive?" I do not suppose that it is obvious that universal origin must have a design. Again...
i would argue that we should be humble in recognizing how little we truly know about the universe and its origins, and resist the urge to infer a creator simply because we do not yet fully understand literal genesis. The assumption that complexity cannot derive from chance is premature. The rationale for an "effect" cannot be obvious unless there is an abundance of evidence suggesting a "cause," & in this case the evidence is limited at best. Skepticism remains the logical choice :)
What is the accent of the narrator? Is it Georgia, Carolinas, ....???
WMsReligion 7 months ago
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MrUrimthummim 1 year ago
Why aren't all Christians logical in their faith, as this video promotes.
VVillowz 1 year ago
@VVillowz
Christian is a large brand, I think.
Many Christians and non-Christians think that faith
is unlogical.
That is a false dilemma.
FallaciesDetective 1 year ago
Logic is defined by God and his thinking, so therefore also defined by his Holy Word. Where do we find God´s word? In the canon of the Bible - the 66 books which are consistently revealing God´s will, law and call to repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Greetings,
Mikel
FallaciesDetective 1 year ago
@FallaciesDetective The statement "Logic is defined by God" is a Non-Sequitur fallacy. You are off the the rails before you have even begun my friend.
VenomOXP 1 year ago
@VenomOXP
how do you know?
greetings!
FallaciesDetective 1 year ago
@FallaciesDetective Greetings to you as well :) The reason it is a non-sequitur fallacy is because the statement "Logic is defined by God" is an assumption. In other words, you are working backwards from a conclusion [God defines logic ] and that violates the principles of logical reasoning. I could no more argue the contrary [God does not exist] without committing the same fallacy, thus [if we are honest] we either defer to faith or skepticism. Either way, we cannot claim to know.
VenomOXP 1 year ago
FallaciesDetective 1 year ago
@FallaciesDetective They are justified indeed, and i certainly do not mean to give off the impression of smugness or pompousness. :) You are correct, a fallacy is indeed incorrect reasoning. I took your original statement "Logic is defined by God and his thinking" to be a declaration of fact. Non-sequitur refers to a disconnection between the premise and conclusion of an argument, thus your original statement assumes a conclusion "God exists to define logic" and works backwards from there.
VenomOXP 1 year ago
@VenomOXP Even assumptions are formulated through rational and/or logical thought, thus assumptions can be as much fallacious as they can be logical. Faith does not suffer this criteria however, as it is an emotional means of thinking, rather than a logical one [though it can be both]. To your second point, you ask "Isn´t it obvious that from dead matter and chance nothing like this universe can derive?" I do not suppose that it is obvious that universal origin must have a design. Again...
VenomOXP 1 year ago
i would argue that we should be humble in recognizing how little we truly know about the universe and its origins, and resist the urge to infer a creator simply because we do not yet fully understand literal genesis. The assumption that complexity cannot derive from chance is premature. The rationale for an "effect" cannot be obvious unless there is an abundance of evidence suggesting a "cause," & in this case the evidence is limited at best. Skepticism remains the logical choice :)
VenomOXP 1 year ago
Very good! I think you did a great job.
ShunichiDomoto 3 years ago