Rickie Fowler, Ugly swing??? RetroJohnny, Unless your a tour pro that's competing, you are completely ,TOTALY goofey. Critiquing Rickie Fowler's swing?? You a 25 handicap weekend warrior?? An internet wanna be??/ or just wishing you could hit a ball like this kid, come on nay sayer, be nice.
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there is a lot of lag in both guys. Big deal, that does not mean they swing the same. Sergio swung inline and left. Fowler backs his head out, stalls his hips and swings it out to the right. From the top down, the swings couldn't be any different. Fowler is good when his is on, but has to rely on that backout.
Fowler is clearly using a cf release slinging it out to the right using a lot of right hand and arm to square it up.
Sergio holds his leverage and uses cp release using his body to square, gravity releases the club.
I understand the swing just fine and these two players use completely opposite releases. The ONLY common element is the laid off / down cock move. Sergio uses it his advantage, for Fowler it is a liability,
@ej0002 They both create so much lag that it is necissary to drop the club inside to force a release. I think thats more to what they were talking about
@Jospehporta no, its just that the newer players have it all, they've got the looks, thr game, the attitude, the willingness to excel, and it just amazes me that I'm like "I wish I could be like that", it's a wish you were here thing
Getting results (I would think) would be achieving GREAT success. Yes he's a pro and earns millions... but so do (or have) thousands of pro golfers who never even won a tourney or never consistently played well. OK yes I probably should have looked into him more (I havent been watching much golf over past few years coz of work) but I knew that he hadn't won yet....which is big. I'm 23, working at an investment bank, $105k per year, 8hcp....I'm happy and actually prefer living my dream than his.
@black8belt So what? Just because his name is on the board, nobody can comment about his swing? Are you serious? Have you lost all sense of reality and your own wretched dignity? FOR CHRISSAKES MAN, GET A GRIP ON LIFE!! YOU ARE FLOUNDERING IN A SEA OF INEPTITUDE AND MORONICS, You should see if some WD40 and a crowbar will help loosen the liplock you have on Rickie's bunghole. I realize you think he's cute or something but you should just come out and proclaim your gayness to the world.
@bigmoemiami THAT was one of the most freakin hilarious and nail on the head responses i've seen in a long assed time...now, even funnier? i picture you yelling it in an english accent FUCKING PRICLESS
Wow... when has zero wins and zero top ten finishes on the PGA been regarded as "getting results"? Don't get me wrong, the kid is talented, but yeah....
@jmaer91 Rickie He has a career earnings total of $4,044,783. He has a rookie of the year award and a great Ryder Cup appearance. He actually has 11 top 10 finishes including 3 top 2, get your facts straight. He has brought Puma into the world of golf, alone. Oh and he's a 22 year old kid living the dream, getting paid to play golf which you apparently care about or you wouldn't have posted on this video to begin with... No results?
@jmaer91 zero top 10's you need to make you know your facts pal. He multiple top 10's and two top 5's. Even finished second during last years memorial. Please do nat make uneducated comments.
I think it is hilarious that all of you losers spend your time arguing about his swing. A couple things 1. He is much better than you could ever dream of being 2. Get a life 3. Grow up and move out of your mothers basement SERIOUSLY!!!
@black8belt And once again, what does my golfing ability have to do with Fowler's crappy ball striking stats? With your "logic", I guess only those who are 152nd or higher in driving can comment on his driving ability. Get real! What, are you Ricky's mother or something? Or maybe swing coach!! lol!
@black8belt What the hell does that have to do with anything? It's certainly not a swing you'd teach any more than Trevino's would be one that you'd teach, but he gets the job done, sorta.
Fowler is 153rd in total driving on tour as of 3/26/11, and 168th in ball striking. Ball striking is NOT his strength!
Not sure how long that swing can last as he grows older. I predict he'll do an overhaul when he's in his late 20s.
There have been a number of horrible looking swings throughout the history of golf which were successful. It doesn't mean you'd try to teach someone that swing, however.
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All of you who say "horrible swing" should say "ugly-looking swing" because it can't be horrible if he's getting paid millions a year to golf. That's why all of us hackers HAVE TO PAY for golf, clear difference between our apparently beautiful swings and the pros' "horrible swings." =P Go tell Furyk, Fowler, and Raymond Floyd they have weird swings (maybe because their last names all end in F haha).
@MAlatinboy WTF are you talking about....LOL! At what point in any of my comments do they hint that I'm 'in denial of my bad game' I'm a single figures golfer and actually proud of that considering I've only been playing the game for 4 years.
Go make your 'Ricky Will You Marry Me' sign and wait for him at his next tourney because you seem to love him, far far too much.
@hyndzy My bad man, it's just that you reminded me of many past trolls on Youtube who have said a pro's swing is so ugly then they have bad games completely. I like to be on pa-"troll" on this site if you get what I'm saying, but I was wrong here. BTW it's a "Ricky is my Homeboy!" shirt- I'm straight, dude.
hogan esc - although technically to repeat that swing in all types of weather conditions expecially high winds would be very very very tough purely because of the timing and the fact that if the club is 0.1 degrees off perfect on a driver swing you gonna be in the trees. Verdict ugly swing - exceptionally gifted hand eye coordination
This swing has a lot of timing and moving parts. The older you get, those features will be harder to commit to. Sergio Garcia was the same in that aspect. He won tournaments early, but he is struggling now. Good luck to Fowler, just stop with the gay beiber/high school musical hair cut.
@BayFlow408 he's struggling now because he could'nt putt the ball into something the size of your mom's vagina, he's still one of the best ball strikers so your comment doesn't make that much sense, good day
Having said all that to strataone, I don't buy the basis of Faldo's complaint. Certain swings keep the body moving at a fairly steady rate through impact, but some don't; some (cf. Cochran and Stobbs and other similar analyses) employ the kind of sequential release all the way out to the clubhead where you tend to see the center of rotation slow down as the force is slung outward, at which point the slung object (the club) becomes the motivating force for rotation to continue.
Some people on this list will recognize this as approximately what's meant by the conservation of angular momentum. The first category of swing--the one that forms the basis for most "body-oriented" teaching, and Faldo's critique--has certain kinds of advantages but has the disadvantage of amounting to a kind of dragging of the club through impact.
Fowler's type has its disadvantages too, but he develops power well from the ground up and keeps the shoulders well back until just before impact, which--despite all the talk about "shoulders open at impact" by a lot of theorists--is actually a characteristic of pretty much every great swing in history.
Faldo seems to be subtly alluding to the popular but provably erroneous notion that there is such a thing as a great swing without timing. Some are easier to time than others.
@emncaity i agree and disagee with some of what you are saying... but i think we can both agree on the fact that it's interesting that both faldo and nicklaus assume the club is shut relative to his path and or arc. in the takeaway he is resisting the natural rotation of the forearms relative to the rotary motion of the body. A lot of great players did this.
Nicklaus used to take it back shut to the arc and arm plane. He had a similar move and a personal swing that pro's wouldnt teach. Faldo is a big man and can't drive the ball more than 270. It's the Indian not the arrow.
Jack had a flying elbow, shut going back, and flipped it at the bottom and he turned out to be the best golfer of all time. His heart overcame his swing. Perfect swings don't exist.
And Faldo just tears everyone apart. Funny he doesn't play anymore. If you can't play, criticize!
Really? Jack had a flying elbow his whole career? I think most teachers who know anything at all will tell you that Jack was simply making his swing wide. If you look at a DTL view during almost any period of Jack's career, you'll see his hands set over or only slightly forward of his right shoulder. His right elbow swung free, but generally not at an angle out of whack with his spine angle (usually about parallel to it).
Re Jack "flipping," that's just tremendously ridiculous. Really it is. I don't know how many photos or videos you want to controvert that notion, but I'll bet I can point to as many as you want to see. He was dead solid with the flat left wrist at the top and made a firm left side and left wrist through impact one of his lifelong basics.
As for Faldo, he's semretired, but was the #1 player in the world for some time. You think he "can't play" now? Even if he couldn't (which he can, most likely eight or 10 shots better than any amateur analyst on this or most other comment lists), what is your evidence that he's saying something different now than he would've said when he was #1 in the world?
I mean, your main point (or what I can make of it) is right--it's a matter of effectiveness, not perfection. In fact, in most eras, the top player hasn't been the one with the most "beautiful" swing. I wouldn't agree for a second that Fowler has a "terrible" swing (as others have posted), but for sure it's built for effectiveness rather than beauty, unless--like me--you think effectiveness _is_ beautiful (cf. Hogan, Nicklaus, Woods, et al.).
you guys ripping Ricky's swing don't understand what is going on internally to make that move so great. Check out Martinez19696 on here.
the24thman 1 month ago
the funny thing is that if you see him in person his striking is better than 99% of tour, He is impressive
wmt195 2 months ago
Rickie Fowler, Ugly swing??? RetroJohnny, Unless your a tour pro that's competing, you are completely ,TOTALY goofey. Critiquing Rickie Fowler's swing?? You a 25 handicap weekend warrior?? An internet wanna be??/ or just wishing you could hit a ball like this kid, come on nay sayer, be nice.
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nanotechbracelet 3 months ago
ugly take away... but it works and as long as it dose don't change it... well back problems in about 20 years here I come, lol ;)
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Look at his left wrist howhowhowhow it flattens over :)
TheRobandAaronShow 5 months ago
Look at his left wrist howhowhowhow it flattens over :)
TheRobandAaronShow 5 months ago
It doesn't look pretty but he gets into good positions on the down swing..
SnaintonGolf 5 months ago
i think its a great looking swing. don't know what everyone's on about?!
themothmanreturns 5 months ago
Ugly, ugly, swing but he rips it. Rickie's swing doesn't have longevity though. He'll never be able to replicate it in 20 years time.
RetroJohnny1 5 months ago
it doesn't really matter what it looks like tho, if you do it finee..
AssProKicker 5 months ago
Sir Richard Cornelius Fowler.
bigsleep32 5 months ago
That is a very weird swing but it got him in tour!!
J2THEJR 6 months ago
dude, but that left knee is like weird
kachunski 6 months ago
jack sounds like a woman
jambojamboify 7 months ago
there is a lot of lag in both guys. Big deal, that does not mean they swing the same. Sergio swung inline and left. Fowler backs his head out, stalls his hips and swings it out to the right. From the top down, the swings couldn't be any different. Fowler is good when his is on, but has to rely on that backout.
ej0002 7 months ago
faldo is a meat head... serigio is the polar opposite of this swing
ej0002 7 months ago
@ej0002 you dont understand the golf swing
nikepumps123 7 months ago
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Fowler is clearly using a cf release slinging it out to the right using a lot of right hand and arm to square it up.
Sergio holds his leverage and uses cp release using his body to square, gravity releases the club.
I understand the swing just fine and these two players use completely opposite releases. The ONLY common element is the laid off / down cock move. Sergio uses it his advantage, for Fowler it is a liability,
ej0002 7 months ago
@ej0002 They both create so much lag that it is necissary to drop the club inside to force a release. I think thats more to what they were talking about
nikepumps123 7 months ago
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somelikeitsnotty 8 months ago
@thefamiliepak keeps him form hooking.
112frankybaby 8 months ago
what about when it gets cold?
R3dbullSalzburg 9 months ago 13
@R3dbullSalzburg I assume he was gonna say it goes limp?
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his swing may not be god looking, but Rickie sure is, I bet he gets alot of pussy
Nightwing690 9 months ago 29
@Nightwing690 hence the chastity ring -_-
bigboyrichbitch 7 months ago
@Nightwing690 Let me guess you jack off to him?
Jospehporta 6 months ago
@Jospehporta no, its just that the newer players have it all, they've got the looks, thr game, the attitude, the willingness to excel, and it just amazes me that I'm like "I wish I could be like that", it's a wish you were here thing
Nightwing690 6 months ago
Getting results (I would think) would be achieving GREAT success. Yes he's a pro and earns millions... but so do (or have) thousands of pro golfers who never even won a tourney or never consistently played well. OK yes I probably should have looked into him more (I havent been watching much golf over past few years coz of work) but I knew that he hadn't won yet....which is big. I'm 23, working at an investment bank, $105k per year, 8hcp....I'm happy and actually prefer living my dream than his.
jmaer91 10 months ago
@jmaer91 yes
LeChronJames00 9 months ago
@black8belt So what? Just because his name is on the board, nobody can comment about his swing? Are you serious? Have you lost all sense of reality and your own wretched dignity? FOR CHRISSAKES MAN, GET A GRIP ON LIFE!! YOU ARE FLOUNDERING IN A SEA OF INEPTITUDE AND MORONICS, You should see if some WD40 and a crowbar will help loosen the liplock you have on Rickie's bunghole. I realize you think he's cute or something but you should just come out and proclaim your gayness to the world.
bigmoemiami 10 months ago
@bigmoemiami THAT was one of the most freakin hilarious and nail on the head responses i've seen in a long assed time...now, even funnier? i picture you yelling it in an english accent FUCKING PRICLESS
bryansuburbansealing 9 months ago
Swing is ugly but who cares. Rickie gets the results and thats all that matters.
Andlerpete42 10 months ago
@Andlerpete42
Wow... when has zero wins and zero top ten finishes on the PGA been regarded as "getting results"? Don't get me wrong, the kid is talented, but yeah....
jmaer91 10 months ago
@jmaer91 Rickie He has a career earnings total of $4,044,783. He has a rookie of the year award and a great Ryder Cup appearance. He actually has 11 top 10 finishes including 3 top 2, get your facts straight. He has brought Puma into the world of golf, alone. Oh and he's a 22 year old kid living the dream, getting paid to play golf which you apparently care about or you wouldn't have posted on this video to begin with... No results?
Andlerpete42 10 months ago
@jmaer91 zero top 10's you need to make you know your facts pal. He multiple top 10's and two top 5's. Even finished second during last years memorial. Please do nat make uneducated comments.
scottyray12 8 months ago
Wow, that swing is ugly as FUCK. Props for being able to play with a swing like that.
bustyourskull 10 months ago
I think it is hilarious that all of you losers spend your time arguing about his swing. A couple things 1. He is much better than you could ever dream of being 2. Get a life 3. Grow up and move out of your mothers basement SERIOUSLY!!!
golfman530 10 months ago
@black8belt And once again, what does my golfing ability have to do with Fowler's crappy ball striking stats? With your "logic", I guess only those who are 152nd or higher in driving can comment on his driving ability. Get real! What, are you Ricky's mother or something? Or maybe swing coach!! lol!
larrybud 11 months ago
@black8belt What the hell does that have to do with anything? It's certainly not a swing you'd teach any more than Trevino's would be one that you'd teach, but he gets the job done, sorta.
Fowler is 153rd in total driving on tour as of 3/26/11, and 168th in ball striking. Ball striking is NOT his strength!
larrybud 11 months ago
Not sure how long that swing can last as he grows older. I predict he'll do an overhaul when he's in his late 20s.
There have been a number of horrible looking swings throughout the history of golf which were successful. It doesn't mean you'd try to teach someone that swing, however.
larrybud 11 months ago
press 9 for guiness
JUSTM1KAL 11 months ago
hahaha press 3 lol
jgolfstar4 11 months ago
Not even close to dropping it in the "slot." But this kid makes it work. Impressive.
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Corncrops 11 months ago
Is it just me or did Ricky Fowler just jizz on Faldo's face... ?
jmaer91 1 year ago
in your face Peter
clipboardcrotch 1 year ago
Dam maybe im lookin at it wrong but the swing looks smooth to me lol
Slammball 1 year ago
howdi, howdi, howdi, hooohhh! What's up Jack......problem?
RewardHonesty 1 year ago
ugh, his swing is soooo ugly
forknifespooon 1 year ago
All of you who say "horrible swing" should say "ugly-looking swing" because it can't be horrible if he's getting paid millions a year to golf. That's why all of us hackers HAVE TO PAY for golf, clear difference between our apparently beautiful swings and the pros' "horrible swings." =P Go tell Furyk, Fowler, and Raymond Floyd they have weird swings (maybe because their last names all end in F haha).
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
@MAlatinboy Their last names start* with an "F". Not end. Lol, just sayin'.
jakknutz 1 year ago
@jakknutz Lol meant to say "start," nice catch though haha.
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
Ricky. Dont EVER have a golf lesson with anyone but the current coach you got. You'll be screwed. Natural is as natural was.
cpg57 1 year ago
Just watching that swing irritates me...
hyndzy 1 year ago
@hyndzy Because you know you could never hit a golf ball like that for 3 holes, let alone 18 holes a day,
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
@MAlatinboy Whatever. you're soo pro then I assume?
hyndzy 1 year ago
@hyndzy No not that good at all, but I'm not the one in denial of my bad game and insulting pros who make money with their superior talent.
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
@MAlatinboy WTF are you talking about....LOL! At what point in any of my comments do they hint that I'm 'in denial of my bad game' I'm a single figures golfer and actually proud of that considering I've only been playing the game for 4 years.
Go make your 'Ricky Will You Marry Me' sign and wait for him at his next tourney because you seem to love him, far far too much.
hyndzy 1 year ago
@hyndzy My bad man, it's just that you reminded me of many past trolls on Youtube who have said a pro's swing is so ugly then they have bad games completely. I like to be on pa-"troll" on this site if you get what I'm saying, but I was wrong here. BTW it's a "Ricky is my Homeboy!" shirt- I'm straight, dude.
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
@MAlatinboy I'm glad we could sort it out, I ain't a troll. Some things just get to me, especially on teh intorw3bz. :D
hyndzy 1 year ago
@hyndzy LOL we're all good man, it's hard to tell at times who the trolls are and who aren't.
MAlatinboy 1 year ago
hogan esc - although technically to repeat that swing in all types of weather conditions expecially high winds would be very very very tough purely because of the timing and the fact that if the club is 0.1 degrees off perfect on a driver swing you gonna be in the trees. Verdict ugly swing - exceptionally gifted hand eye coordination
kiahughesy 1 year ago
I hit the driver like that. When ive shit myself.Wierdest thing is that it looks less retarded than my normal swing.
dannaryan 1 year ago
Serious lower back injury before 30 years old, here we come. Nick and Jack are spot on....
MrAzzatron 1 year ago
i love it when the analysts dont like the swing because it either isnt how they would teach or how they would swing...
naflack 1 year ago
This swing has a lot of timing and moving parts. The older you get, those features will be harder to commit to. Sergio Garcia was the same in that aspect. He won tournaments early, but he is struggling now. Good luck to Fowler, just stop with the gay beiber/high school musical hair cut.
BayFlow408 1 year ago
@BayFlow408 Garcia hits the ball just as well now, his putting is just terrible though. Drive for show put for dough!
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@BayFlow408 word
18imnot 1 year ago
@BayFlow408 he's struggling now because he could'nt putt the ball into something the size of your mom's vagina, he's still one of the best ball strikers so your comment doesn't make that much sense, good day
optimisticcosmic 1 year ago
Having said all that to strataone, I don't buy the basis of Faldo's complaint. Certain swings keep the body moving at a fairly steady rate through impact, but some don't; some (cf. Cochran and Stobbs and other similar analyses) employ the kind of sequential release all the way out to the clubhead where you tend to see the center of rotation slow down as the force is slung outward, at which point the slung object (the club) becomes the motivating force for rotation to continue.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity
Some people on this list will recognize this as approximately what's meant by the conservation of angular momentum. The first category of swing--the one that forms the basis for most "body-oriented" teaching, and Faldo's critique--has certain kinds of advantages but has the disadvantage of amounting to a kind of dragging of the club through impact.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity
Fowler's type has its disadvantages too, but he develops power well from the ground up and keeps the shoulders well back until just before impact, which--despite all the talk about "shoulders open at impact" by a lot of theorists--is actually a characteristic of pretty much every great swing in history.
Faldo seems to be subtly alluding to the popular but provably erroneous notion that there is such a thing as a great swing without timing. Some are easier to time than others.
emncaity 1 year ago
@emncaity i agree and disagee with some of what you are saying... but i think we can both agree on the fact that it's interesting that both faldo and nicklaus assume the club is shut relative to his path and or arc. in the takeaway he is resisting the natural rotation of the forearms relative to the rotary motion of the body. A lot of great players did this.
tenillechristine 1 year ago
@tenillechristine
Nicklaus used to take it back shut to the arc and arm plane. He had a similar move and a personal swing that pro's wouldnt teach. Faldo is a big man and can't drive the ball more than 270. It's the Indian not the arrow.
strataone 1 year ago
Jack had a flying elbow, shut going back, and flipped it at the bottom and he turned out to be the best golfer of all time. His heart overcame his swing. Perfect swings don't exist.
And Faldo just tears everyone apart. Funny he doesn't play anymore. If you can't play, criticize!
strataone 1 year ago
@strataone
Really? Jack had a flying elbow his whole career? I think most teachers who know anything at all will tell you that Jack was simply making his swing wide. If you look at a DTL view during almost any period of Jack's career, you'll see his hands set over or only slightly forward of his right shoulder. His right elbow swung free, but generally not at an angle out of whack with his spine angle (usually about parallel to it).
emncaity 1 year ago
@strataone
Re Jack "flipping," that's just tremendously ridiculous. Really it is. I don't know how many photos or videos you want to controvert that notion, but I'll bet I can point to as many as you want to see. He was dead solid with the flat left wrist at the top and made a firm left side and left wrist through impact one of his lifelong basics.
emncaity 1 year ago
@strataone
As for Faldo, he's semretired, but was the #1 player in the world for some time. You think he "can't play" now? Even if he couldn't (which he can, most likely eight or 10 shots better than any amateur analyst on this or most other comment lists), what is your evidence that he's saying something different now than he would've said when he was #1 in the world?
emncaity 1 year ago
@strataone
I mean, your main point (or what I can make of it) is right--it's a matter of effectiveness, not perfection. In fact, in most eras, the top player hasn't been the one with the most "beautiful" swing. I wouldn't agree for a second that Fowler has a "terrible" swing (as others have posted), but for sure it's built for effectiveness rather than beauty, unless--like me--you think effectiveness _is_ beautiful (cf. Hogan, Nicklaus, Woods, et al.).
emncaity 1 year ago
yay 1st view, i love his swing, shut up jack, lol j.k.
miraclewhip237 1 year ago
@miraclewhip237 no doubt about that it is a terrible swing, but a great player
taumelgolfer 1 year ago
@taumelgolfer u cant really judge his swing...hes a pro thats all that matters
TheGolfers4life 1 year ago