I think the government is corrupt through and through, but he's right.
It would have leaked, there was too much risk, too unpredictable, and the government wouldn't do this to justify attacking Iraq, they would do it anyway, they don't give a goddamn what we think. The world just isn't that controlled.
911 PREDICTABLY doubled defense spending at a time when people were thinking America no longer needed a huge military cos the Cold War had been over 10 years & allowed us to militarily entrench ourselves in the Middle East and control the flow of Oil (something we'd wanted to do for decades).What would defense spending be today without 911?Why would we still need a huge military?What/who would the enemy be?Of course it was an inside job.
" Secrets are SO very hard to keep " that fraudulent comment is so baseless , so ridiculous a 5 year old could shoot that down ...That Assumes we know everything the Gov. is doing LOL , only a lunatic or out right LIAR would claim that .
A. Do we know everything going on at Area 51 - of course not .
B. Do we know everything CIA or NSA who Spend BILLIONS of dollars on INTEL , are doing - of course not .
C. Americans were EASILY fooled that bout IRAQ ... ETC ETC ETC Bush is FREE .
@kotkee You are joking right , asking a nonsensical , ridiculous question like that , that there's a problem w/ wanting to know WHO or What Group killed JFK , the PRESIDENT ?
CHOMSKY IS CONTROLLED. NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. Read the publish email correspondence between him and Kevin Barrett regarding arrangements to appear on his radio program. Its a long read but worth it. Chomsky's evasiveness and willful ignorance is overwhelming.
2 Fundamental truths:1.Maintaining a huge military REQUIRES the people to believe there's a huge threat or they wont pay for it.(Who would the enemy be today without 911?What would the defense budget be like?) 2.The people will only support wars they believe are for a noble cause. Stealing control of other nations resources isn't a noble cause,so the wars MUST be based on lies.Would we be militarily entrenched in the ME with the ability to control the flow of the world's energy?NO.911=inside job
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Apparently the population of schizophrenic "Jews faked the moon landing" (etc.) commenters believes they can determine objective truth by upvoting their own comments often enough. Good luck on that, guys-- let me know how that works out!
For more clear cut and obvious examples of governments exploiting crises in able to force unpopular changes on an otherwise resistant public look into Naomi Klien's Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. Sept 11, 1973 Augusto Pinochet seized power in Chile in a coup d'etat. Economic "shock therapy" (Milton Friedman inspired neo-liberal policies) was imposed the next day. Not as sexy as LIHOP or MIHOP but at least the evidence exists.
It's indisputable that the Bush Administration took advantage of 911. With the public literally in shock over the event the gov't was able to ram through the most hideous unpopular legislation and use the crisis as pretext to launch wars of aggression against two nations on PNAC's hit list. The terrorist attacks launched by Bush/Cheney alone are int'l war crimes. w/o airtight evidence inside job charges will fail and pale by comparison. Do you recall what happened to war criminals at Nuremberg?
@bongojim420 Hey bongojim420, thanks for alerting me that we have the highest rated comments on this video!
I watched the video again, of course, and I still can't believe that anyone listens to Gnome Chumpsky after making those utterly irresponsible remarks about 911 and JFK!
WTF could be more important than determining whom the REAL culprits are behind both events...whom to vote for on Dancing With The Stars?
If you look at the evidence, you'll know both official stories are BS!
i wouldn't put it past our government to do these things, but from a truly scientific perspective, the evidence isn't good enough. it's compelling, but it's not conclusive. it just isn't.
@ienjoyapples This is exactly the way I feel about it, except for not knowing whether the evidence warrants a conspiracy conclusion. Not enough time or interest in researching it.
But they are definitely morally capable of such an act.
@ienjoyapples Real science is built on fundamental truth known as empirical laws, these are the most solid connecting dots in science. The WTC "collapse" violated several empirical laws. To make the official story fit we would have to collapse science. Arguments against empirical laws are doomed. The proof for a controlled demolition is absolute.
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@MrKooken Excellent work, please submit this YouTube comment to all relevant scientific journals to withstand peer review, which it surely will. WINK!
@MrKooken lets say it can be proven that it was a demolition. there is still no evidence implicating the government in its planning or execution. zero. no witnesses, no documents, nothing beyond circumstantial evidence, motives and the means to carry it out. im not saying the government isn't suspect, but conclusive evidence is just not there.
Chomsky lets the cat out of the bag when he says, in regards to the JFK assassination - 'if it was a jealous husband... who cares' He's referring here to the theory that Cord Meyer killed Kennedy for sleeping with his wife - Mary Pinchot - one of the more obscure theories in the conspiracy lexicon. So its obvious Chomsky has 'cared' enough to some detailed research - proving that his nonchalance is a sham.
^That video will answer many questions. Notice that a lot of left-wing gate keepers like Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Amy Goodman, and Naomi Klein.... notice that they are also jews.
Jews protect their tribe, right or wrong, it seems.
If you haven't seen 9/11 Missing Links, please do so.
Every time I hear this jewish "intellectual" shill say "who cares" whether 911 was an israeli inside job, or "who cares" that the last president to stand up to the ZOG was assassinated, I want to punch him in the face!
How could he possibly label those 2 events as "insignificant"?
We are talking about a coup d'etat with JFK, and the biggest false flag operation in history with 911--which was the excuse needed for 2 wars still ongoing--and he considers these "insignificant"?!
@Bongofury361 yeah but he knows the government is corrupt and seeking power. It doesn't matter whether 9/11 was initiated by government officials or not. The government itself is not one cohesive body that agrees on everything. It's an oversimplification, and he's saying its unnecessary to dwell on this. We should be focusing on the fixing the system itself.
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@MrKooken OOokkkkkkaaayyy! What the fuck did your inbred ass just call me? Serously, let's analyze your original retard comment: You called an MIT professor, PhD, world-renowned genius, thorn in the political side of useless fuckup corporatists and idiots like you a "retard". YOU're the one with psychological problems you stupid inbred piece of shut-in shit! Your stupid-ass mother should finally throw you out of her basement. Ya paranoid freak! I bet you used to get beat every day in highschool.
@Dymdez Just go with the "genius" liar and drag along as much sheeple as you can. Together you can protect your "enlightenment" against the awful truth.
@MrKooken This is so confusing? If you honestly think the US government planned and executed 911, why are you still in America? If I honestly thought that my government willingly murdered its own citizens, i would outta this joint. Well?? Why are you guys still here! Your government killed 3000 of its citizens and you think the best way to react is to sit on youtube and attack Chomsky? Wtf??
Maybe some people see their home country as something worth fighting for??? Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?"
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" ; "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't" AND "Ex US Marine - 9/11 was Mossad False Flag"
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@Dymdez hahaha Yes! Thank you! I find it quite amusing that these "truthers" think that they are more capable of critical thought than Noam Chomsky. Chomsky has made a career of exposing the awful atrocities of the American government. That is why I find it illogical to argue that his motives are to protect the government or that he hasn't considered all the angles.
Has Chomsky EVER done a critical analysis of who else could have had the means, motive, opportunity? Why don't you take a whack at it: Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?" On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" AND "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't"
I wonder what he would say to those who started the 9/11 truth movement - thousands Nobel prize winning physicists, scientists, engineers and architects from around the globe! There are many unanswered questions not just weird ideas from wackos. The facts suggest that the 9/11 Commission report is just as worthless as the Warren Commission report - a complete lie and manipulation of reality. Very few think the Bush administration did it, but the odds are it was CIA or related agencies.
Chumpsky as made up his mind on this issue. The false flag attack on us. This tells me one of two things, he gets paycheck from the Military Industrial Complex or he's a total dumb-shit. WTC 7 was an controlled demo.
Chomsky and the rest of those anti-establishment pundits aren't morons so they know it was an inside job. They're all probably being threatened. They don't want their grandchildren to start having "Accidents".
@kalbahamut you think that the government would blow up its own buildings and try to frame Saudis for it as an elaborate excuse to start two extremely expensive wars, neither against Saudi Arabia, one in a worthless country and the other in a nation that had no ties at all to those framed for the attack? AND you believe that the govt is capable of planning and executing this brilliant super-complex plan but not smart enough to figure out an excuse for WT7 falling? What a colossal fucking retard.
@Seigu007 there are mountains of evidence supporting what actually happened. There is zero evidence supporting the asinine conspiracy theories. You, sir, are retarded.
@kalbahamut Youre a gullible fantasist. Now go back to your hole and don’t return. No one likes you. No one will ever like you. You are destined to be alone and miserable…FOREVER.
@kalbahamut It is also true that the official report raises more questions than answers Members of the panel admit it was was hastly conducted without proper examination of all the evidence . You don't need to support a paticular view or theory to remain sceptical. Chomsky has long pointed to the US.. economy's reliance on arms manufacture since WW2 and the miltary industrial complex and their corporate elite associates' ruthless control of a frequently genocidal foreign policy.
@socint74 it is not true that the 9/11 Commission raised more questions than it provided answers. Say this as often as you like, it's still not true. Of course the commission didn't answer every single question that lunatic conspiracy theorists have raised, BUT, every single one of those questions HAVE been answered in other forums. Chomsky is wrong on many things but yes, he is also right once in a while. For instance, he doesn't believe in stupid 9/11 Conspiracy theories.
@kalbahamut Yours comment is, at best, only opinion, to which you are fully entitled ,but your gratuitous use use of the terms lunatic and stupid does little other than endorse your intolerance and arrogance.
@socint74 while you are certainly entitled to your own opinion (but not your own facts), I respectfully disagree that my use of the terms lunatic or stupid are in any way gratuitous. I am NOT arrogant, but yes I AM intolerant of stupidity. I am not going to apologize for that. I would be much more patient and tolerant of stupidity if I wasn't constantly bombarded with it here in the YouTube comments section. After a while one's patience is prone to being worn thin...
Have you seen anything resembling fairies and leprechauns?
There are tons of signs to suggest controlled demolition and scientists explain here why the NIST reports are false: watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ
Again, how do you rule out the inside job? Why do you believe the official fairy tale when it's both unproven and physically impossible? Do you grasp that namely believing in the official theory is the same as believing in fairies and leprechauns?
@Thetan1974 there is zero evidence for a controlled demolition. Zilch. Nada. In other words, exactly the same amount of evidence there is for the existence of faeries.
You don't understand what the word evidence means. You don't have even a rudimentary understanding of physics. You are not in any way qualified to make any of the assertions that you are making. You are wasting my time.
There are no qualified scientists with a solid grasp of the facts who agree with you. None. You're wrong.
- Th powderizing of everything eccept from some steel girders - which was blown UP and away with explosive force
- Nano-thermite in the dust (And if it is not nano-thermite, would you care to show how you make the ecxcact same explosive red/gray thermitical chips in your kitchen?
- Eutectic steel of which heat-source there is no explaination
- The south tower leaning over and powderizing in mid air while at the same time finctionning as the "pile driver" - that NIST has even debunked them selves; there are no pancakes left.
- Pools of molten steel and metal that firefighters couldn't turn out until feb. 2002.
- "Rocket projectile" debris that falls to the ground faster than free fall and even changes direction in mid air with a tail of alu oxide after it - a product of thermite.
@Thetan1974 do you have any idea what stored kinetic energy means? Of course you don't. Do you have any idea how much potential energy was stored in the two enormous structures of the WTC? Do you know what gravity is?
You fucking IDIOTS first denied that pieces of the building fell faster than the building (which was proof it was not falling at free fall), now you are taking that back and saying that these pieces had rockets attached to them? haha. FUCK you are insane.
Would you care to answer for all the phenomenons? And you're apparently also in denail of the fact that NIST didn't use the scientific method. You're some John, aintcha?
You're way off: Chandler disagreed that these "projectile" debris fell faster than free fall but he agrees now. It is clear for anyone. And did I say that they had rockets attatched to them? LOL. You're desperate in defending the official story; That BEHAVED like rockets because of the thermite, jerk.
Yeah, you would soooo love it that I'm a scientologist because that makes you more comfortable focusing on that and forgetting about the unanswered 9/11 questions. Guess what, I am not into scientology. Just thought "Thetan" was funny name. Do you also think that people calling them selves "Batman" or "BritneySpears" are Batmen and Britneys? LOL. Who's the lunatic here?
Du you have any idea of how it would be impossible for even the moon to create all those phenomenons that I listed? Do you have any idea of how a real investigation into the collapses were blocked and debris removed and never checked forensically? Do you have any idea of how terrified you are from getting to know what caused all that Bullshit? I sense clearly how scared you are - otherwise you wouldn't be in such defensive denial of mere science.
@Thetan1974 It might be considered admirable to try to help these "debunkers" to see the light, but it is a complete waste of time on these pathetic creatures who lack critical minds!
You may as well bang your head against a wall, than to try to get through their dense skulls, and to try to educate their tiny brains!
Thanks, but I'm not in it so much for trying to wake up the debunker. i know it's impossible. I'm doing it so the audience "dropping by" who don't know what to think can see the hypocricy and selfcontradictions of these debunkers. That'll help them understand in what direction the ttruth lies.
God you fucktards are such lunatics. As I said, you are wasting my time. Please go wrap your feces in tin foil and masturbate into it and leave me alone you nutjob.
You're such a lunatic to not care about how all those phenomenons have been created and accept that more and more scientists -those who dare speak about it - state the NIST Reports simply unscientific.
You want to depersately stay religious and inside your little matrix of "This was done by Osama & the 19 Hijackers - no questions asked!"
You have a hard time accepting that the official story hasn't been proven - just for starters -haven't you?
There is NO proof that the top of the buildings, built to sustain these tops several times and with its structure of steel becoming stronger and thicker the longer you come down, created all those phenomenins. NON. ZILCH.
But you want to believe in an unproven fairy tale all the way for some reason...?
Now, WHY do you believe in the official fairy tale of which there is no proof? Do you consider yourself religious?
How do you like Hammilton's own words on the subject?
@Thetan1974 I'm not denying anything. The scientists who support idiotic crazy conspiracy theories are in the EXTREME minority, and usually they are not physicists or engineers or experts in any relevant field. You have a list of botanists and marine biologists who support a variety of different stupid theories and you claim THAT as proof? Then you of course ignore the ARMY of much more qualified scientists who call you a lunatic. This is bias in the grossest extreme.
Now you're denying that you're denying that respected scientists finds the NIST Reports bunk, that they support a CD theory and that they support a new investigation. Wow, nice style.
Woah, what's that "extreme minority"? Could you please go out and finde 1600+ architects and engineers that have stated individually that they support the NIST Report? Where is that "army" - eccept from the un-endependant crowd of NIST folks?
So his key point is that he doesn't believe that such a secret could be kept. He's entitled to his eminent opinion, but that's a pretty weak foundation in my view. Manhattan Project?
@CNCTEMATIC Chomsky knows little about the JFK assassination-less about 911-I don't mean the uses of 911 or the social or political or military consequences of it but the facts of the crime(s) themselves. Why should I listen to him? Tell us Noam, have ALL major military and political secrets been revealed?
The thing about listening to Chomsky is that you have to listen very closely. How many of you heard, "Power systems will exploit (catastrophies) to expand their own power over their primary enemies, which are their domestic enemies, their own populations." @ 3:00
It is 2011 and Chomsky still hasn't come out on the side of the truthers. It doesn't add up. He has spent his life exposing atrocities the US has committed and cover-ups. Why doesn't he suspect here?
The conspiracy is as obvious as the nose on your face. So why?
For those who are reading this and who still don't believe that it was a conspiracy I just want to say - You are fucked! I'm sorry. I mean, come on. There wasn't a plane in footage of the Pentagon. I'm sorry. You guys are simply fucked!
@iankyoko Thats an intellectually arrogant statement "if you dont believe what I believe, you are fucked" has it ever occured to you that you have bought into propaganda? The pentagon? What about the 136 witnesses who saw the plane? Are they all in on it? There are serious double standards when it comes to conspiracy logic. When eye witnesses hear "explosions" theyre all over it like flies on shit, but any eye witnesses that provide contradicting accounts its like "Theyre just in the CIA"
@aiiiunluckykid I'm sorry but I think the conspiracy is so obvious that I don't have no time for people who don't see it. I reckon if I were to recite all the illogical circumstances of 9/11 it would take me about an hour.
For instance, the plane that supposedly crashed into the Pentagon was moving 110 knots above it's maximum operating limit. At that speed the wings would have ripped off.
So I don't understand why people continue to believe the official story.
@iankyoko The fact you have "no time for people who don't see it" doesn't mitigate my skepticism. There was a time where I believed I was "in the know" and couldn't understand either. But once you see how much bullshit it is, it actually just becomes so blatantly obvious. If you truly believe you have "woken up" and everyone around you is brainwashed, I suggest you take note of the doctrine of socrates ignorance "its better to know, that you do not know, than to think you know and not know"
@iankyoko I don't believe it shows that there "is no plane" its just a crap angle. But like I said, the fact there are 136 witnesses combined with the fact there was plane parts found at the scene is enough evidence for me that a plane hit the pentagon. Those 9/11 documentaries can be very convincing, but if you look carefully at each of the claims there is more plausible explanation for all of them. Listen to Chomsky, hes far more credible than that community college drop out Alex Jones.
@iankyoko This guy that you're arguing is parroting a bunch of junk talking points. The notion that "the science is settled"- a joke. NIST Report on Bldg 7, for instance is a complete fraud by any reasonable scientific standard. They have provided a computer model that doesn't resemble the collapse, they have concealed all of their input data, they have received no peer review. Scientists who conceal data and elude peer review are generally looked upon with scorn. Somehow not so with 911.
@Smedley2323 The public have not come within 100 miles of an official investigation into 9/11. That's what we all desire but short of that we rely on experts and other investigators reaching conclusions for us. Isn't the fact that the government are not seeking a clear explanation of the facts enough reason to suspect them? Anyone who has nothing to hide is utterly forthcoming and open.
The official story can't be reconciled with the facts.
@Smedley2323 I should have sent my last reply to the guy I've been arguing with. But now I see that he is arguing with everyone.
I'll tell you what - it is a scary world we are living in. I never realized that at the top of society it appears that it is inhabited by a bunch Hitlers. Real sociopaths. In the space of 3 months my outlook on life has really changed.
@iankyoko Its also important to note that the final report on building 7 completely negates the talking point that lead investigator Shyam Sunder used for years- that falling debris caused significant damage. They explicitly say in the final report that falling debris did nothing but start the fires. If you try to post the actual quotes, youtube automatically marks it as spam.
@iankyoko These guys who talk about "the overwhelming majority of scientists" supporting the official story....
If I were to randomly pick a structural engineer in my home town, I wonder if that person would even know about building 7, much less about the junk science used to "substantiate" the cause of the collapse. If they DID know, I wonder how many wouldn't quickly figure out what they'd be up against to challenge the official story.
People don't want to believe that it only takes a small group of fanatics to make a nation bleed, and more so, people have always believed that there is a man behind the curtain who pulls on all the strings. Conspiracy theories are like a religion in the sense that they provide a "truth" that people can believe in.
Elvis didn't die, 9.11 was an inside job, aliens have been infiltrating human society, chemtrails and whatever truths you believe in, it's just that: "belief" until it is proven.
insults and assertions of Elvis theories, ufos and the like are the last desperate act of a man with no argument.
WTC7 displays all 10 characteristics of controlled demolition while having none of the characteristics of a collapse due to fire (which has never happened in a steel framed skyscraper). Chomsky is addressing a straw man argument. No one is saying Bush did it. I would love to debate Chomsky too bad he doesn't debate 9/11 to back up his claims.
@TheParadigmShift strawman arguments? perhaps you should look at your own argument, no one has said it collapsed due to fire. It collapsed due to a weakened structure as it was severly damaged from falling debris of the twin towers, combine that with the fact it was uniquely designed, held up with 3 trusses. One of of the trusses gave away, evidenced by the collapse of the east penthouse and the building gave way because it couldnt redistribute the weight.
@Malganis84 "People don't want to believe that it only takes a small group of fanatics to make a nation bleed,"
This claim absolutely must be called out. There IS a small group of fanatics making our nation bleed. They wear suits and hold jobs with private banking cartels, they manage hedge funds and they work as "advisers" to Presidents. The notion that I would find more comfort in believing a "fantasy" that a camouflaged group of insiders perpetrated 911 is the opposite of reality.
It would be great if Chomsky came to believe that it was a conspiracy.He is such a big name.If 9/11 was an inside job it is vital for the world to realize it.Because it was the beginning of the "war on terror" which is no concrete enemy and is continual.The perfect war! If 9/11was in inside job than this War On Terror is a hoax.Its agenda entirely different from what it states
I think eventually Chomsky will admit the veracity of the 9/11 conspiracy theories.You cant dispel so many smoking guns
I am surprised Chomsky talks in this manner. I'm sorry to say, he sounds like a fuckin' idiot. The thing is, it is hard to believe the official story!! Try explaining Building 7. You can't. Try explaining the lack of evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. You fuckin' can't. Try explaining free-falling symmetrical-falling buildings without explosives. You fuckin' can't. I love Chomsky. He has been great for us all. But here he is being an idiot. It is hard to believe - he has such a keen mind.
@pyrouzi I don't think anyone is claiming it was "molten lava" since that is melted bed-rock from deep beneath the earth. It softened the steel, it didn't turn it into lava.
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I used to believe in 9/11 conspiracy...before I realised it was aloada balls. I feel sorry for people who believe it now, almost in the same way I feel sorry for fundamentalist christianity.
@pyrouzi Its just bullshit dude. All the claims are taken out of context, misrepresented or strawman arguments. Just look up alot of debunked stuff and you'll see. Those 9/11 conspiracy documentaries are just very decieving. There really isn't much evidence at all for a conspiracy.
No, not a whole lot of evidence. Just 1,598 verified architectural and engineering professionals have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation. But hey, I guess you know better!
@Ansatsunin There really is no argument pointing to authority because there are scientists, architects and engineers on our side too. An overwhelming majority might I add that reject the controlled demolition theory. Investigations have to be peer reviewed to enhance credibility dude. The controlled demolition theory and "nanothermite" is actually laughable in the scientific community, its been that embarrasingly debunked.
I used to respect Noam, now I wonder about who paid him to stop thinking! His opinion is no longer valid. --- 7:12 into the video! who cares? EVERYONE cares about this one. Really, Noam please retire now.
@earFront Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that you disagree with him. To a normal person, they can take a step back, and realize what he means is, "What would be the point?" Obviously he's not actually saying that no one cares. If you disagree with his assertion that it's pointless, then you can debate. But to just say, I disagree so I'm not listening anymore, is a little ignorant and certainly not helpful to the evolution of public discourse.
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
Is it possible that someone disagrees with your assumption, which by the way no peer-reviewed article supports, without being a "shill" or "not as smart as we thought." Please! The man dismantled B.F. Skinner, worked with Jean Piaget, developed the LAD, making him the most renowned linguist of the 20th century, is the 8th most quoted scholar in history, and is a professor emeritus at M.I.T. Accept the fact that he disagrees and move on. A shill? That's ridiculous.
Chumpsky is the 1 with "low credibility" to make such ludicrous assertions that an important, world changing event like 911, or the assassination of JFK, DON'T MATTER!
If those 2 events don't matter, WTF does?
Who ate all the cheetos at his grandson's bar mitzvah party? Is starbucks coffee REALLY passover kosher? Where to get the best deal on florsheim shoes? This fucking fake jew needs a good, swift kick to the head!
Just because someone can talk a lot, doesn't make him smart!
@ChomskyandCheetos Are you being sincere or sarcastic, because I really didn't expect this kind of response from you. IF you are being sincere, thank you, though I'm a little confused, as you appear to be a fan of his!
lol! Of course it's sarcasm. When someone just brings up the fact the man is jewish, it's a meaningless statement. If you have a valid argument, I'm willing to pay attention.
@noclassatall You have no idea what you're talking about my homely friend. Maybe you don't realize what the WTO is but If 9/11 was an inside job they wouldn't have attacked the WTC towers. It would have been much less risk, much less self-damaging and much more effective if they had "staged" an attack on another building. However, it makes perfect sense that a rogue terrorist group would attack the WTC towers, because the WTO is the epicenter of their perceived "oppression" by Western nations
You just described perfectly why 911 is most likely to have been an inside job. "Why would the gov't do it; it is something terrorists would do!" What a beautiful smokescreen.
Also, think of the amount of money that stood to be gained by shorting stocks before the "attack" occurred. A lot of short selling happened prior to 911, much more than usual, so this is believable.
Dude, the WTCs were demolished, without a doubt, and member of the gov't were likely responsible.
@noclassatall If you want to be logical then and not just spew debunked talking points, then actually debunk my stuff, because if you actually wanted to look there is evidence which contradicts your view, however much you might dislike it
He approaches the topic from different perspectives and the most convincing one is logically irrefutable. IF IT HAD BEEN a conspiracy, it WOULD HAVE LEAKED.
How do we know ? Because as history has proved time and time again that there are whistleblowers on every level of execution of a conspiracy. The fact that NOTHING of any sort has been leaked is the strongest possible hint that it actually didn't exist.
@sooperfukker not sure which you're talking about. When it comes to the JFK shooting, a US CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION conceded it was highly probable there was a 2nd shooter - making it by definition a "conspiracy". There have been endless leaks and discrepancies about the JFK coverup. It's not Chomsky's position - his position is "who cares, Kennedy was a hawk anyway, there was no reason to have him killed.".... I respectfully disagree.
What most people don't get is actually a very simple thing:
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There are many possible reasons for giving out an incomplete or unsatisfying explanation. Being a part of the conspiracy is only ONE possibility AMONG MANY.
And IF the official side was involved, giving out an obviously inferior explanation is THE WORST WAY to cover up its involvement because it automatically puts all eyes on them...
What makes the conspiracy theories so absurdly funny is this:
- On the one side they allege that the officials had come up with an amazingly detailed plan for a conspiracy, perfectly executed with absolutely no room for any error.
- On the other side they allege that the officials are then too stupid to properly cover up their traces, even the most "obvious" ones, declaring every incongruity in the official statements as a irrefutable sign for a conspiracy.
That is a non sequitur. There is just an absolutely overwhelming pool of evidence to suggest it was staged, and trying to disprove it by noting a lack of probable outcomes or by highlighting the difficulty is meaningless, because we aren't talking probability and politics, we're talking physics.
Replace "pool of evidence" with "pool of baseless accusations and non-facts", then a wrong becomes a right. You "truthers" are not to be treated with any respect, i'd wish you could keep your nonsense to yourself. You're too much like the religious, but at least these do spend some time to build their stories.
Is the independently confirmed (by Niels Harrit, Steven Jones, and Jeff Farrer) presence of "red-gray chip" aluminum and iron oxide material of uniform thickness (nano-thermite) an accusation or a non-fact? What about the iron rich microspheres? What about building 7 falling at free fall acceleration for 100 feet: accusation or non-fact?
These are facts, and they can only be reasonably explained by demolition. What is your response to these scientifically confirmed facts?
You mix facts and non-facts to poison every single question you ask. You're a bonehead.
Nano thermite = Debunked. ALL THE WAY. Positive: NT is not necessarily man made, it's just a term for the mixture of an oxidiser and a strong reduction agent, it can be created in many processes. And it's not even clear it was that. Negative : What did they say how many pounds NT it would require to burn steel .. like 150 pounds per ton of steel ? Do the maths and then forget about it.
It was clear that it was uniformly layered iron oxide and aluminum microns thick, and it was found in many dust samples, independently confirmed by phD scientists; a statistically unlikely "fluke". The required weight per ton of steel is mostly a red herring because the whole beam did not need to be melted, just critical junctions and points along certain support members and joists. The abundance of the uncombusted NT gives us a clue as to how prevalent it was before the collapse.
@OpenYourMindQuaid Oh and the WTC7 freefall myth. Remarkable how incredibly sure you are that what you've seen is truly a "free fall" (which of course it isn't , by definition). Yada yada yada ...
Mixing no-knowledge with pretended knowledge .. this is what makes me puke about you "truthers".
You know fuckshit about anything, yet you're incredibly sure that no explanation offered to you is the truth.
I have no time for yoursalikes. Go back to church.
It has been absolutely confirmed with very simple analyses and relatively basic technology that the building indeed fell at free fall acceleration for the first two seconds of the collapse after the penthouse caved in. Let me repeat, this building fell at the acceleration of gravity, indicating virtually zero resistance, for a non-negligible period of time straight down.
Because this is fact, how do you address this reality?
He also believes "government" is too incompetent to pull off a job like 911, but doesn't consider that the "Bush administration" as a whole may have had nothing to do with it. Maybe it was members of the administration--chicken hawk Dick Cheney comes to mind--and other globalist psychopaths intent on creating a new world described by the most massive disparity in wealth ever conceived.
No response other than laughter? You shouldn't so quickly reveal your impatience and arrogance, lest you remain perpetually mistaken. Let me know if you want to exchange actual information about this topic, as it clearly interests us both.
The evidence has NOT been debunked. Rather, it has grown and strengthened with ZERO adherents to the official story offering a legitimate opposition explanation. You can't disprove that WTC 7 fell at free fall, nor can you disprove the presence of a thermitic substance.
Just regurgitating Chomsky's points doesn't make you right, especially in the face of damning evidence that you automatically assume is "debunked" without showing the slightest shred of proof to back your claim.
@OpenYourMindQuaid Seriously I'm not even gonna have this conversation. Do you even realize that Alex Jones (the head of this god damn conspiracy group) faked photographs and provided false information in his so called first 'scientific publication' regarding the 911 tragedy? You want the proof? Two planes went into a building, the contents of the building burned into a violent fire which weakened the structure, the building fell vertically as nature intended. End of story.
You won't have the conversation because you aren't willing to look at the evidence, and I don't care if Alex Jones is a fraud or not; it doesn't alter the facts, which you refuse to address. Your final statement about the planes reveals how truly bought in you are to the official propaganda, which I take to mean you have abandoned all critical thinking for the convenience of believing everything is okay. Your hateful profanity-laden posts just underscore your cowardice.
I think the government is corrupt through and through, but he's right.
It would have leaked, there was too much risk, too unpredictable, and the government wouldn't do this to justify attacking Iraq, they would do it anyway, they don't give a goddamn what we think. The world just isn't that controlled.
TheDystopiaInside 13 hours ago
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911 PREDICTABLY doubled defense spending at a time when people were thinking America no longer needed a huge military cos the Cold War had been over 10 years & allowed us to militarily entrench ourselves in the Middle East and control the flow of Oil (something we'd wanted to do for decades).What would defense spending be today without 911?Why would we still need a huge military?What/who would the enemy be?Of course it was an inside job.
waitew 1 day ago
Na nu Na nu shazbot, Klaatu barada nikto!!! The Aliens did it..... the Truth is Out There!!!!
smartcooky99 5 days ago
" Secrets are SO very hard to keep " that fraudulent comment is so baseless , so ridiculous a 5 year old could shoot that down ...That Assumes we know everything the Gov. is doing LOL , only a lunatic or out right LIAR would claim that .
A. Do we know everything going on at Area 51 - of course not .
B. Do we know everything CIA or NSA who Spend BILLIONS of dollars on INTEL , are doing - of course not .
C. Americans were EASILY fooled that bout IRAQ ... ETC ETC ETC Bush is FREE .
Noam = PRAVDA
franz909 1 week ago
He said it's most likely not possible. Listen to his words. And about JFK who cares who killed who, its WHY was that person killed.
kotkee 1 week ago
Why do you guys/girls care who killed JFK?
kotkee 1 week ago
@kotkee You are joking right , asking a nonsensical , ridiculous question like that , that there's a problem w/ wanting to know WHO or What Group killed JFK , the PRESIDENT ?
franz909 1 week ago
Mr. Chomsky: What was in that espresso? "Who cares?" Zero logic.
ManosOceano 1 week ago
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CHOMSKY IS CONTROLLED. NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. Read the publish email correspondence between him and Kevin Barrett regarding arrangements to appear on his radio program. Its a long read but worth it. Chomsky's evasiveness and willful ignorance is overwhelming.
bassefa1984 1 week ago
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JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald.That's all there was to it.
TheShel10 3 weeks ago
@TheShel10 Thanks for clearing that up for us, lol,
no need to research, now I can watch football.
bongojim420 3 weeks ago
@bongojim420 Your welcome but there has been a lot of research. It's just that none of it ever produced any evidence there was a conspiracy.
TheShel10 3 weeks ago
@TheShel10 I am joking numb nuts, JFK was killed by the CIA.
Let me further help you, 911 was done by the Israeli Mossad, The Cia & Neocons.
Football is for morons along with wrestling & dancing with the stars and
people NOT researching is why most are Americans are clueless about world events.
bongojim420 3 weeks ago 7
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@bongojim420 JFK was not in fact killed by the CIA or anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald.He used the same rifle in a previous assassination attempt.
TheShel10 2 weeks ago
@bongojim420 Do you just look up conspiracy theories relating to these events on the internet? Did you just google these things???
blablablablabla951 2 weeks ago
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the reason the 9/11 conspiracy is bogus? you have charlie sheen as one of your spokes men. thank and you good night :P
manulito2 1 month ago
2 Fundamental truths:1.Maintaining a huge military REQUIRES the people to believe there's a huge threat or they wont pay for it.(Who would the enemy be today without 911?What would the defense budget be like?) 2.The people will only support wars they believe are for a noble cause. Stealing control of other nations resources isn't a noble cause,so the wars MUST be based on lies.Would we be militarily entrenched in the ME with the ability to control the flow of the world's energy?NO.911=inside job
waitew 1 month ago 8
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Apparently the population of schizophrenic "Jews faked the moon landing" (etc.) commenters believes they can determine objective truth by upvoting their own comments often enough. Good luck on that, guys-- let me know how that works out!
pbrandt328 1 month ago
@pbrandt328 Spare us your conspiracy theory.
MrKooken 1 month ago
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@pbrandt328 i wandered around youtube comments, for years now. and finally some one with brains. thank you!
manulito2 1 month ago
For more clear cut and obvious examples of governments exploiting crises in able to force unpopular changes on an otherwise resistant public look into Naomi Klien's Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. Sept 11, 1973 Augusto Pinochet seized power in Chile in a coup d'etat. Economic "shock therapy" (Milton Friedman inspired neo-liberal policies) was imposed the next day. Not as sexy as LIHOP or MIHOP but at least the evidence exists.
DB0blivion 1 month ago
It's indisputable that the Bush Administration took advantage of 911. With the public literally in shock over the event the gov't was able to ram through the most hideous unpopular legislation and use the crisis as pretext to launch wars of aggression against two nations on PNAC's hit list. The terrorist attacks launched by Bush/Cheney alone are int'l war crimes. w/o airtight evidence inside job charges will fail and pale by comparison. Do you recall what happened to war criminals at Nuremberg?
DB0blivion 1 month ago
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THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE WORLD WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF PEOPLE TO LIE FOR THEM.
CLOBBERINTIME1 2 months ago 16
Piece of shit 911 gate keeper, fuck you Chumpsky.
bongojim420 2 months ago 47
@bongojim420 you just dont get him cause your not smart enough!
canehdian15 3 weeks ago
@canehdian15 You are criticizing my intelligence?
Lol, for your info its ''You're'', not ''your'' its short for you are.
Whats not to get? Looks like you're outvoted on this one guy and the one ''not getting it''.
bongojim420 3 weeks ago 3
@bongojim420 Hey bongojim420, thanks for alerting me that we have the highest rated comments on this video!
I watched the video again, of course, and I still can't believe that anyone listens to Gnome Chumpsky after making those utterly irresponsible remarks about 911 and JFK!
WTF could be more important than determining whom the REAL culprits are behind both events...whom to vote for on Dancing With The Stars?
If you look at the evidence, you'll know both official stories are BS!
Bongofury361 2 weeks ago 2
i wouldn't put it past our government to do these things, but from a truly scientific perspective, the evidence isn't good enough. it's compelling, but it's not conclusive. it just isn't.
ienjoyapples 2 months ago
@ienjoyapples This is exactly the way I feel about it, except for not knowing whether the evidence warrants a conspiracy conclusion. Not enough time or interest in researching it.
But they are definitely morally capable of such an act.
DCWhatthe 2 months ago
@ienjoyapples Real science is built on fundamental truth known as empirical laws, these are the most solid connecting dots in science. The WTC "collapse" violated several empirical laws. To make the official story fit we would have to collapse science. Arguments against empirical laws are doomed. The proof for a controlled demolition is absolute.
MrKooken 2 months ago 28
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@MrKooken Excellent work, please submit this YouTube comment to all relevant scientific journals to withstand peer review, which it surely will. WINK!
Dymdez 2 months ago
@MrKooken lets say it can be proven that it was a demolition. there is still no evidence implicating the government in its planning or execution. zero. no witnesses, no documents, nothing beyond circumstantial evidence, motives and the means to carry it out. im not saying the government isn't suspect, but conclusive evidence is just not there.
ienjoyapples 2 months ago
Chomsky lets the cat out of the bag when he says, in regards to the JFK assassination - 'if it was a jealous husband... who cares' He's referring here to the theory that Cord Meyer killed Kennedy for sleeping with his wife - Mary Pinchot - one of the more obscure theories in the conspiracy lexicon. So its obvious Chomsky has 'cared' enough to some detailed research - proving that his nonchalance is a sham.
32peartree 2 months ago 12
ReDiscover911(dot)com
Those who cover-up 9/11 are complicit in treason.
9/11 Missing Links is a MUST SEE.
whole2th 3 months ago 7
9/11 Missing Links
^That video will answer many questions. Notice that a lot of left-wing gate keepers like Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Amy Goodman, and Naomi Klein.... notice that they are also jews.
Jews protect their tribe, right or wrong, it seems.
If you haven't seen 9/11 Missing Links, please do so.
beppu 3 months ago 15
Every time I hear this jewish "intellectual" shill say "who cares" whether 911 was an israeli inside job, or "who cares" that the last president to stand up to the ZOG was assassinated, I want to punch him in the face!
How could he possibly label those 2 events as "insignificant"?
We are talking about a coup d'etat with JFK, and the biggest false flag operation in history with 911--which was the excuse needed for 2 wars still ongoing--and he considers these "insignificant"?!
What a lying POS!
Bongofury361 3 months ago 59
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@Bongofury361 youtube.com/watch?v=9CKpCGjD8wg&feature=related
ThatBranniganKid 1 month ago
@Bongofury361 yeah but he knows the government is corrupt and seeking power. It doesn't matter whether 9/11 was initiated by government officials or not. The government itself is not one cohesive body that agrees on everything. It's an oversimplification, and he's saying its unnecessary to dwell on this. We should be focusing on the fixing the system itself.
fLcGambit 5 days ago
Jeez, I'm glad this guy's rational. That's the difference between a scientific mind and the legions of retarded conspiracy theorists.
maugustyniak 3 months ago
@maugustyniak You obviously don't have a scientific mind. Chomsky is something close to a lying retard.
MrKooken 2 months ago
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@MrKooken Yo momma. *snicker* Hey idiot, did you finish anything beyond high-school?
maugustyniak 2 months ago
@maugustyniak You're trying to tell me you're a narcissist conformist sociopath. Sorry but I can't help you with your psychological problem.
MrKooken 2 months ago 6
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@MrKooken OOokkkkkkaaayyy! What the fuck did your inbred ass just call me? Serously, let's analyze your original retard comment: You called an MIT professor, PhD, world-renowned genius, thorn in the political side of useless fuckup corporatists and idiots like you a "retard". YOU're the one with psychological problems you stupid inbred piece of shut-in shit! Your stupid-ass mother should finally throw you out of her basement. Ya paranoid freak! I bet you used to get beat every day in highschool.
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@maugustyniak You've just proven my point again.
MrKooken 2 months ago 5
@MrKooken hmmm most cited living person vs random youtube user who thinks hes smart.. hmmm... i wonder who i will go with....
Dymdez 2 months ago
@Dymdez Just go with the "genius" liar and drag along as much sheeple as you can. Together you can protect your "enlightenment" against the awful truth.
MrKooken 2 months ago 7
@MrKooken This is so confusing? If you honestly think the US government planned and executed 911, why are you still in America? If I honestly thought that my government willingly murdered its own citizens, i would outta this joint. Well?? Why are you guys still here! Your government killed 3000 of its citizens and you think the best way to react is to sit on youtube and attack Chomsky? Wtf??
WWWLAW 2 months ago
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@WWWLAW
Maybe some people see their home country as something worth fighting for??? Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?"
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" ; "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't" AND "Ex US Marine - 9/11 was Mossad False Flag"
CRschralper 2 months ago 5
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@Dymdez hahaha Yes! Thank you! I find it quite amusing that these "truthers" think that they are more capable of critical thought than Noam Chomsky. Chomsky has made a career of exposing the awful atrocities of the American government. That is why I find it illogical to argue that his motives are to protect the government or that he hasn't considered all the angles.
tbagzsauga 2 months ago
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@tbagzsauga
Has Chomsky EVER done a critical analysis of who else could have had the means, motive, opportunity? Why don't you take a whack at it: Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?" On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" AND "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't"
Pretty cut and dry.
CRschralper 2 months ago 5
I wonder what he would say to those who started the 9/11 truth movement - thousands Nobel prize winning physicists, scientists, engineers and architects from around the globe! There are many unanswered questions not just weird ideas from wackos. The facts suggest that the 9/11 Commission report is just as worthless as the Warren Commission report - a complete lie and manipulation of reality. Very few think the Bush administration did it, but the odds are it was CIA or related agencies.
TheTubePortal 3 months ago
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WHO CARES!!!!!!! WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!!
clint525fuller 3 months ago 4
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Chumpsky as made up his mind on this issue. The false flag attack on us. This tells me one of two things, he gets paycheck from the Military Industrial Complex or he's a total dumb-shit. WTC 7 was an controlled demo.
clint525fuller 3 months ago 9
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The proof that 9/11 was an inside job is crushing. Here's a link to some of it.
spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144746
Chomsky and the rest of those anti-establishment pundits aren't morons so they know it was an inside job. They're all probably being threatened. They don't want their grandchildren to start having "Accidents".
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MrKooken 3 months ago
does chomsky really think fires caused wyc7 to collapse? what an idiot
Seigu007 3 months ago
@Seigu007 do you really think that it was brought down by a controlled demolition? what an idiot.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut You think the Government is telling the truth and WTC 7 was caused by an office fire. what an idiot.
clint525fuller 3 months ago 4
@kalbahamut you think that the government would blow up its own buildings and try to frame Saudis for it as an elaborate excuse to start two extremely expensive wars, neither against Saudi Arabia, one in a worthless country and the other in a nation that had no ties at all to those framed for the attack? AND you believe that the govt is capable of planning and executing this brilliant super-complex plan but not smart enough to figure out an excuse for WT7 falling? What a colossal fucking retard.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut Fabulous--an ignorant fool invoking terms used in formal rhetoric. You know as much about theology as you know about shaving: NOTHING.
None of my assumptions are wrong, as you know, because they are supported by real evidence.
What real evidence do you have for your idiotic fantasies? Still nothing?
Seigu007 3 months ago 6
@Seigu007 there are mountains of evidence supporting what actually happened. There is zero evidence supporting the asinine conspiracy theories. You, sir, are retarded.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
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@kalbahamut Youre a gullible fantasist. Now go back to your hole and don’t return. No one likes you. No one will ever like you. You are destined to be alone and miserable…FOREVER.
Seigu007 3 months ago 8
@kalbahamut It is also true that the official report raises more questions than answers Members of the panel admit it was was hastly conducted without proper examination of all the evidence . You don't need to support a paticular view or theory to remain sceptical. Chomsky has long pointed to the US.. economy's reliance on arms manufacture since WW2 and the miltary industrial complex and their corporate elite associates' ruthless control of a frequently genocidal foreign policy.
socint74 3 months ago
@socint74 it is not true that the 9/11 Commission raised more questions than it provided answers. Say this as often as you like, it's still not true. Of course the commission didn't answer every single question that lunatic conspiracy theorists have raised, BUT, every single one of those questions HAVE been answered in other forums. Chomsky is wrong on many things but yes, he is also right once in a while. For instance, he doesn't believe in stupid 9/11 Conspiracy theories.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut Yours comment is, at best, only opinion, to which you are fully entitled ,but your gratuitous use use of the terms lunatic and stupid does little other than endorse your intolerance and arrogance.
socint74 3 months ago
@socint74 while you are certainly entitled to your own opinion (but not your own facts), I respectfully disagree that my use of the terms lunatic or stupid are in any way gratuitous. I am NOT arrogant, but yes I AM intolerant of stupidity. I am not going to apologize for that. I would be much more patient and tolerant of stupidity if I wasn't constantly bombarded with it here in the YouTube comments section. After a while one's patience is prone to being worn thin...
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Well, one thing is what Chomsky BELIEVES - another thing is facts:
watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MeWDc4kRd90
So, did the 9/11 Commissioner just forget to go to all those forums where all the questions he himself states as unanswered are answered?
How do you RULE out the "inside job" as part of what we have not been told and what we have been decieved about?
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@Thetan1974 how do you rule out the existence of fairies and leprechauns?
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Have you seen anything resembling fairies and leprechauns?
There are tons of signs to suggest controlled demolition and scientists explain here why the NIST reports are false: watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ
Again, how do you rule out the inside job? Why do you believe the official fairy tale when it's both unproven and physically impossible? Do you grasp that namely believing in the official theory is the same as believing in fairies and leprechauns?
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@Thetan1974 there is zero evidence for a controlled demolition. Zilch. Nada. In other words, exactly the same amount of evidence there is for the existence of faeries.
You don't understand what the word evidence means. You don't have even a rudimentary understanding of physics. You are not in any way qualified to make any of the assertions that you are making. You are wasting my time.
There are no qualified scientists with a solid grasp of the facts who agree with you. None. You're wrong.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
There is:
- Th powderizing of everything eccept from some steel girders - which was blown UP and away with explosive force
- Nano-thermite in the dust (And if it is not nano-thermite, would you care to show how you make the ecxcact same explosive red/gray thermitical chips in your kitchen?
- Eutectic steel of which heat-source there is no explaination
Thetan1974 3 months ago 6
@kalbahamut
- The south tower leaning over and powderizing in mid air while at the same time finctionning as the "pile driver" - that NIST has even debunked them selves; there are no pancakes left.
- Pools of molten steel and metal that firefighters couldn't turn out until feb. 2002.
- "Rocket projectile" debris that falls to the ground faster than free fall and even changes direction in mid air with a tail of alu oxide after it - a product of thermite.
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@Thetan1974 do you have any idea what stored kinetic energy means? Of course you don't. Do you have any idea how much potential energy was stored in the two enormous structures of the WTC? Do you know what gravity is?
You fucking IDIOTS first denied that pieces of the building fell faster than the building (which was proof it was not falling at free fall), now you are taking that back and saying that these pieces had rockets attached to them? haha. FUCK you are insane.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Would you care to answer for all the phenomenons? And you're apparently also in denail of the fact that NIST didn't use the scientific method. You're some John, aintcha?
You're way off: Chandler disagreed that these "projectile" debris fell faster than free fall but he agrees now. It is clear for anyone. And did I say that they had rockets attatched to them? LOL. You're desperate in defending the official story; That BEHAVED like rockets because of the thermite, jerk.
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Yeah, you would soooo love it that I'm a scientologist because that makes you more comfortable focusing on that and forgetting about the unanswered 9/11 questions. Guess what, I am not into scientology. Just thought "Thetan" was funny name. Do you also think that people calling them selves "Batman" or "BritneySpears" are Batmen and Britneys? LOL. Who's the lunatic here?
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Du you have any idea of how it would be impossible for even the moon to create all those phenomenons that I listed? Do you have any idea of how a real investigation into the collapses were blocked and debris removed and never checked forensically? Do you have any idea of how terrified you are from getting to know what caused all that Bullshit? I sense clearly how scared you are - otherwise you wouldn't be in such defensive denial of mere science.
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@Thetan1974 It might be considered admirable to try to help these "debunkers" to see the light, but it is a complete waste of time on these pathetic creatures who lack critical minds!
You may as well bang your head against a wall, than to try to get through their dense skulls, and to try to educate their tiny brains!
Bongofury361 3 months ago 11
@Bongofury361
Thanks, but I'm not in it so much for trying to wake up the debunker. i know it's impossible. I'm doing it so the audience "dropping by" who don't know what to think can see the hypocricy and selfcontradictions of these debunkers. That'll help them understand in what direction the ttruth lies.
Thetan1974 3 months ago 12
@Thetan1974
God you fucktards are such lunatics. As I said, you are wasting my time. Please go wrap your feces in tin foil and masturbate into it and leave me alone you nutjob.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
You're such a lunatic to not care about how all those phenomenons have been created and accept that more and more scientists -those who dare speak about it - state the NIST Reports simply unscientific.
You want to depersately stay religious and inside your little matrix of "This was done by Osama & the 19 Hijackers - no questions asked!"
You have a hard time accepting that the official story hasn't been proven - just for starters -haven't you?
You still fail to answer my questions?
Thetan1974 3 months ago 9
@kalbahamut
There is NO proof that the top of the buildings, built to sustain these tops several times and with its structure of steel becoming stronger and thicker the longer you come down, created all those phenomenins. NON. ZILCH.
But you want to believe in an unproven fairy tale all the way for some reason...?
Now, WHY do you believe in the official fairy tale of which there is no proof? Do you consider yourself religious?
How do you like Hammilton's own words on the subject?
Thetan1974 3 months ago 5
@kalbahamut
"There are no qualified scientists with a solid grasp of the facts who agree with you. None. You're wrong."
You are VERY, very wrong and in denial. You are directly denying facts: watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
Thetan1974 3 months ago
@Thetan1974 I'm not denying anything. The scientists who support idiotic crazy conspiracy theories are in the EXTREME minority, and usually they are not physicists or engineers or experts in any relevant field. You have a list of botanists and marine biologists who support a variety of different stupid theories and you claim THAT as proof? Then you of course ignore the ARMY of much more qualified scientists who call you a lunatic. This is bias in the grossest extreme.
kalbahamut 3 months ago
@kalbahamut
Now you're denying that you're denying that respected scientists finds the NIST Reports bunk, that they support a CD theory and that they support a new investigation. Wow, nice style.
Woah, what's that "extreme minority"? Could you please go out and finde 1600+ architects and engineers that have stated individually that they support the NIST Report? Where is that "army" - eccept from the un-endependant crowd of NIST folks?
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@Thetan1974
And, did the 9/11 Commissioner just forget to go to all those forums where all the questions he himself states as unanswered are answered?
Care to answer the questions?
Thetan1974 3 months ago
So his key point is that he doesn't believe that such a secret could be kept. He's entitled to his eminent opinion, but that's a pretty weak foundation in my view. Manhattan Project?
CNCTEMATIC 4 months ago
@CNCTEMATIC Chomsky knows little about the JFK assassination-less about 911-I don't mean the uses of 911 or the social or political or military consequences of it but the facts of the crime(s) themselves. Why should I listen to him? Tell us Noam, have ALL major military and political secrets been revealed?
RPenta 3 months ago
The thing about listening to Chomsky is that you have to listen very closely. How many of you heard, "Power systems will exploit (catastrophies) to expand their own power over their primary enemies, which are their domestic enemies, their own populations." @ 3:00
rarosera 4 months ago
If 9/11 conspiracists had any credibility whatsoever Chomsky would be the first person to support them, yet he dismisses them.
If only there were more clear minded thinkers like Noam behind there keyboards instead of retarded "truther" douche bag boners.
ChrisRyannMusic 4 months ago
He's a douche and a tool.
raykaelin 4 months ago
He didn't debunk anything. The title of this video is misleading
TheParadigmShift 4 months ago
It is 2011 and Chomsky still hasn't come out on the side of the truthers. It doesn't add up. He has spent his life exposing atrocities the US has committed and cover-ups. Why doesn't he suspect here?
The conspiracy is as obvious as the nose on your face. So why?
For those who are reading this and who still don't believe that it was a conspiracy I just want to say - You are fucked! I'm sorry. I mean, come on. There wasn't a plane in footage of the Pentagon. I'm sorry. You guys are simply fucked!
iankyoko 4 months ago
@iankyoko Thats an intellectually arrogant statement "if you dont believe what I believe, you are fucked" has it ever occured to you that you have bought into propaganda? The pentagon? What about the 136 witnesses who saw the plane? Are they all in on it? There are serious double standards when it comes to conspiracy logic. When eye witnesses hear "explosions" theyre all over it like flies on shit, but any eye witnesses that provide contradicting accounts its like "Theyre just in the CIA"
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
@aiiiunluckykid I'm sorry but I think the conspiracy is so obvious that I don't have no time for people who don't see it. I reckon if I were to recite all the illogical circumstances of 9/11 it would take me about an hour.
For instance, the plane that supposedly crashed into the Pentagon was moving 110 knots above it's maximum operating limit. At that speed the wings would have ripped off.
So I don't understand why people continue to believe the official story.
iankyoko 4 months ago
@iankyoko The fact you have "no time for people who don't see it" doesn't mitigate my skepticism. There was a time where I believed I was "in the know" and couldn't understand either. But once you see how much bullshit it is, it actually just becomes so blatantly obvious. If you truly believe you have "woken up" and everyone around you is brainwashed, I suggest you take note of the doctrine of socrates ignorance "its better to know, that you do not know, than to think you know and not know"
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
@aiiiunluckykid But how can you, for instance still believe a plane hit The Pentagon when in the 5 frames showing the explosion there is no plane?
iankyoko 4 months ago
@iankyoko I don't believe it shows that there "is no plane" its just a crap angle. But like I said, the fact there are 136 witnesses combined with the fact there was plane parts found at the scene is enough evidence for me that a plane hit the pentagon. Those 9/11 documentaries can be very convincing, but if you look carefully at each of the claims there is more plausible explanation for all of them. Listen to Chomsky, hes far more credible than that community college drop out Alex Jones.
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
@iankyoko This guy that you're arguing is parroting a bunch of junk talking points. The notion that "the science is settled"- a joke. NIST Report on Bldg 7, for instance is a complete fraud by any reasonable scientific standard. They have provided a computer model that doesn't resemble the collapse, they have concealed all of their input data, they have received no peer review. Scientists who conceal data and elude peer review are generally looked upon with scorn. Somehow not so with 911.
Smedley2323 4 months ago
@Smedley2323 The public have not come within 100 miles of an official investigation into 9/11. That's what we all desire but short of that we rely on experts and other investigators reaching conclusions for us. Isn't the fact that the government are not seeking a clear explanation of the facts enough reason to suspect them? Anyone who has nothing to hide is utterly forthcoming and open.
The official story can't be reconciled with the facts.
iankyoko 4 months ago
@Smedley2323 I should have sent my last reply to the guy I've been arguing with. But now I see that he is arguing with everyone.
I'll tell you what - it is a scary world we are living in. I never realized that at the top of society it appears that it is inhabited by a bunch Hitlers. Real sociopaths. In the space of 3 months my outlook on life has really changed.
iankyoko 4 months ago
@iankyoko further down the rabbit hole, Alice.
GenSButler 4 months ago
@iankyoko Its also important to note that the final report on building 7 completely negates the talking point that lead investigator Shyam Sunder used for years- that falling debris caused significant damage. They explicitly say in the final report that falling debris did nothing but start the fires. If you try to post the actual quotes, youtube automatically marks it as spam.
Smedley2323 4 months ago
@iankyoko These guys who talk about "the overwhelming majority of scientists" supporting the official story....
If I were to randomly pick a structural engineer in my home town, I wonder if that person would even know about building 7, much less about the junk science used to "substantiate" the cause of the collapse. If they DID know, I wonder how many wouldn't quickly figure out what they'd be up against to challenge the official story.
Smedley2323 4 months ago
People don't want to believe that it only takes a small group of fanatics to make a nation bleed, and more so, people have always believed that there is a man behind the curtain who pulls on all the strings. Conspiracy theories are like a religion in the sense that they provide a "truth" that people can believe in.
Elvis didn't die, 9.11 was an inside job, aliens have been infiltrating human society, chemtrails and whatever truths you believe in, it's just that: "belief" until it is proven.
Malganis84 4 months ago
@Malganis84
insults and assertions of Elvis theories, ufos and the like are the last desperate act of a man with no argument.
WTC7 displays all 10 characteristics of controlled demolition while having none of the characteristics of a collapse due to fire (which has never happened in a steel framed skyscraper). Chomsky is addressing a straw man argument. No one is saying Bush did it. I would love to debate Chomsky too bad he doesn't debate 9/11 to back up his claims.
TheParadigmShift 4 months ago
@TheParadigmShift strawman arguments? perhaps you should look at your own argument, no one has said it collapsed due to fire. It collapsed due to a weakened structure as it was severly damaged from falling debris of the twin towers, combine that with the fact it was uniquely designed, held up with 3 trusses. One of of the trusses gave away, evidenced by the collapse of the east penthouse and the building gave way because it couldnt redistribute the weight.
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
@Malganis84 "People don't want to believe that it only takes a small group of fanatics to make a nation bleed,"
This claim absolutely must be called out. There IS a small group of fanatics making our nation bleed. They wear suits and hold jobs with private banking cartels, they manage hedge funds and they work as "advisers" to Presidents. The notion that I would find more comfort in believing a "fantasy" that a camouflaged group of insiders perpetrated 911 is the opposite of reality.
Smedley2323 4 months ago
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GenSButler 4 months ago
The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves -Lenin
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It would be great if Chomsky came to believe that it was a conspiracy.He is such a big name.If 9/11 was an inside job it is vital for the world to realize it.Because it was the beginning of the "war on terror" which is no concrete enemy and is continual.The perfect war! If 9/11was in inside job than this War On Terror is a hoax.Its agenda entirely different from what it states
I think eventually Chomsky will admit the veracity of the 9/11 conspiracy theories.You cant dispel so many smoking guns
iankyoko 4 months ago
I am surprised Chomsky talks in this manner. I'm sorry to say, he sounds like a fuckin' idiot. The thing is, it is hard to believe the official story!! Try explaining Building 7. You can't. Try explaining the lack of evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. You fuckin' can't. Try explaining free-falling symmetrical-falling buildings without explosives. You fuckin' can't. I love Chomsky. He has been great for us all. But here he is being an idiot. It is hard to believe - he has such a keen mind.
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pyrouzi 4 months ago
@pyrouzi I don't think anyone is claiming it was "molten lava" since that is melted bed-rock from deep beneath the earth. It softened the steel, it didn't turn it into lava.
DanLetts97 4 months ago
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pyrouzi 4 months ago
Haha, yes I realised that after I posted the comment and was waiting for someone to point that out. I meant molten steel. Sorry :)
pyrouzi 4 months ago
i heard the teletubbies were behind it, best conspiracy theory ive heard !
dras50376272 4 months ago
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sol2soul77 5 months ago
I used to believe in 9/11 conspiracy...before I realised it was aloada balls. I feel sorry for people who believe it now, almost in the same way I feel sorry for fundamentalist christianity.
aiiiunluckykid 5 months ago
@aiiiunluckykid Please share the evidence that lead you to believe that 911 was "aloada balls"..I would like to think that too.
pyrouzi 4 months ago
@pyrouzi Its just bullshit dude. All the claims are taken out of context, misrepresented or strawman arguments. Just look up alot of debunked stuff and you'll see. Those 9/11 conspiracy documentaries are just very decieving. There really isn't much evidence at all for a conspiracy.
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
@aiiiunluckykid
google ae911truth
No, not a whole lot of evidence. Just 1,598 verified architectural and engineering professionals have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation. But hey, I guess you know better!
Ansatsunin 4 months ago
@Ansatsunin There really is no argument pointing to authority because there are scientists, architects and engineers on our side too. An overwhelming majority might I add that reject the controlled demolition theory. Investigations have to be peer reviewed to enhance credibility dude. The controlled demolition theory and "nanothermite" is actually laughable in the scientific community, its been that embarrasingly debunked.
aiiiunluckykid 4 months ago
I used to respect Noam, now I wonder about who paid him to stop thinking! His opinion is no longer valid. --- 7:12 into the video! who cares? EVERYONE cares about this one. Really, Noam please retire now.
earFront 5 months ago
@earFront Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that you disagree with him. To a normal person, they can take a step back, and realize what he means is, "What would be the point?" Obviously he's not actually saying that no one cares. If you disagree with his assertion that it's pointless, then you can debate. But to just say, I disagree so I'm not listening anymore, is a little ignorant and certainly not helpful to the evolution of public discourse.
TheSmokeoutProds 5 months ago
just because Noam is old, doesnt make him wise. hes a covert government op.
yourmajezty 5 months ago
Just another traitor.
MrKooken 5 months ago
i care
berletka 5 months ago
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you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
ehudnold9 5 months ago
He certainly doesn't debunk anythinghere, that much is fact.
HammerOvThor 5 months ago 13
Really? I thought his modus tollens was pretty sound.
migkillertwo 3 months ago
debunks? hes a blatant idiot
Seigu007 5 months ago
Is it possible that someone disagrees with your assumption, which by the way no peer-reviewed article supports, without being a "shill" or "not as smart as we thought." Please! The man dismantled B.F. Skinner, worked with Jean Piaget, developed the LAD, making him the most renowned linguist of the 20th century, is the 8th most quoted scholar in history, and is a professor emeritus at M.I.T. Accept the fact that he disagrees and move on. A shill? That's ridiculous.
ChomskyandCheetos 5 months ago
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Bongofury361 5 months ago
@Bongofury361
So many excellent points! You really have a grasp on reality!
ChomskyandCheetos 5 months ago
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Chumpsky is the 1 with "low credibility" to make such ludicrous assertions that an important, world changing event like 911, or the assassination of JFK, DON'T MATTER!
If those 2 events don't matter, WTF does?
Who ate all the cheetos at his grandson's bar mitzvah party? Is starbucks coffee REALLY passover kosher? Where to get the best deal on florsheim shoes? This fucking fake jew needs a good, swift kick to the head!
Just because someone can talk a lot, doesn't make him smart!
Bongofury361 5 months ago
@ChomskyandCheetos Are you being sincere or sarcastic, because I really didn't expect this kind of response from you. IF you are being sincere, thank you, though I'm a little confused, as you appear to be a fan of his!
Bongofury361 5 months ago
@Bongofury361
lol! Of course it's sarcasm. When someone just brings up the fact the man is jewish, it's a meaningless statement. If you have a valid argument, I'm willing to pay attention.
ChomskyandCheetos 5 months ago
@noclassatall You have no idea what you're talking about my homely friend. Maybe you don't realize what the WTO is but If 9/11 was an inside job they wouldn't have attacked the WTC towers. It would have been much less risk, much less self-damaging and much more effective if they had "staged" an attack on another building. However, it makes perfect sense that a rogue terrorist group would attack the WTC towers, because the WTO is the epicenter of their perceived "oppression" by Western nations
sesamestreetgang 5 months ago
@sesamestreetgang
You just described perfectly why 911 is most likely to have been an inside job. "Why would the gov't do it; it is something terrorists would do!" What a beautiful smokescreen.
Also, think of the amount of money that stood to be gained by shorting stocks before the "attack" occurred. A lot of short selling happened prior to 911, much more than usual, so this is believable.
Dude, the WTCs were demolished, without a doubt, and member of the gov't were likely responsible.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@noclassatall If you want to be logical then and not just spew debunked talking points, then actually debunk my stuff, because if you actually wanted to look there is evidence which contradicts your view, however much you might dislike it
TheGamanic 5 months ago
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is that all beer?? what the fuck.
jayhem175 5 months ago
Simple calm logic and it makes Fudgy Ventura and the loons look very foolish.
Tsnore 5 months ago
@Tsnore just because he acts calm and "logical" means he knows everything. wheres the proof?
SlamdogX 5 months ago
"debunk" you dont know what debunking is, he merely says they would be crazy to try such a thing, going on to say the argument is immaterial
slovakmath 6 months ago
Noam is my favorite guy in the world - but his argumentation here seems quite weak.
clouz22 6 months ago
@clouz22
He approaches the topic from different perspectives and the most convincing one is logically irrefutable. IF IT HAD BEEN a conspiracy, it WOULD HAVE LEAKED.
How do we know ? Because as history has proved time and time again that there are whistleblowers on every level of execution of a conspiracy. The fact that NOTHING of any sort has been leaked is the strongest possible hint that it actually didn't exist.
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@sooperfukker not sure which you're talking about. When it comes to the JFK shooting, a US CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION conceded it was highly probable there was a 2nd shooter - making it by definition a "conspiracy". There have been endless leaks and discrepancies about the JFK coverup. It's not Chomsky's position - his position is "who cares, Kennedy was a hawk anyway, there was no reason to have him killed.".... I respectfully disagree.
clouz22 5 months ago
@clouz22 He refered to 9/11 when saying that.
What most people don't get is actually a very simple thing:
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There are many possible reasons for giving out an incomplete or unsatisfying explanation. Being a part of the conspiracy is only ONE possibility AMONG MANY.
And IF the official side was involved, giving out an obviously inferior explanation is THE WORST WAY to cover up its involvement because it automatically puts all eyes on them...
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@clouz22
What makes the conspiracy theories so absurdly funny is this:
- On the one side they allege that the officials had come up with an amazingly detailed plan for a conspiracy, perfectly executed with absolutely no room for any error.
- On the other side they allege that the officials are then too stupid to properly cover up their traces, even the most "obvious" ones, declaring every incongruity in the official statements as a irrefutable sign for a conspiracy.
It's ridiculous.
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@sooperfukker
That is a non sequitur. There is just an absolutely overwhelming pool of evidence to suggest it was staged, and trying to disprove it by noting a lack of probable outcomes or by highlighting the difficulty is meaningless, because we aren't talking probability and politics, we're talking physics.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid
Replace "pool of evidence" with "pool of baseless accusations and non-facts", then a wrong becomes a right. You "truthers" are not to be treated with any respect, i'd wish you could keep your nonsense to yourself. You're too much like the religious, but at least these do spend some time to build their stories.
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@sooperfukker
Is the independently confirmed (by Niels Harrit, Steven Jones, and Jeff Farrer) presence of "red-gray chip" aluminum and iron oxide material of uniform thickness (nano-thermite) an accusation or a non-fact? What about the iron rich microspheres? What about building 7 falling at free fall acceleration for 100 feet: accusation or non-fact?
These are facts, and they can only be reasonably explained by demolition. What is your response to these scientifically confirmed facts?
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid
You mix facts and non-facts to poison every single question you ask. You're a bonehead.
Nano thermite = Debunked. ALL THE WAY. Positive: NT is not necessarily man made, it's just a term for the mixture of an oxidiser and a strong reduction agent, it can be created in many processes. And it's not even clear it was that. Negative : What did they say how many pounds NT it would require to burn steel .. like 150 pounds per ton of steel ? Do the maths and then forget about it.
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@sooperfukker
It was clear that it was uniformly layered iron oxide and aluminum microns thick, and it was found in many dust samples, independently confirmed by phD scientists; a statistically unlikely "fluke". The required weight per ton of steel is mostly a red herring because the whole beam did not need to be melted, just critical junctions and points along certain support members and joists. The abundance of the uncombusted NT gives us a clue as to how prevalent it was before the collapse.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid Oh and the WTC7 freefall myth. Remarkable how incredibly sure you are that what you've seen is truly a "free fall" (which of course it isn't , by definition). Yada yada yada ...
Mixing no-knowledge with pretended knowledge .. this is what makes me puke about you "truthers".
You know fuckshit about anything, yet you're incredibly sure that no explanation offered to you is the truth.
I have no time for yoursalikes. Go back to church.
sooperfukker 5 months ago
@sooperfukker
It has been absolutely confirmed with very simple analyses and relatively basic technology that the building indeed fell at free fall acceleration for the first two seconds of the collapse after the penthouse caved in. Let me repeat, this building fell at the acceleration of gravity, indicating virtually zero resistance, for a non-negligible period of time straight down.
Because this is fact, how do you address this reality?
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
People doubting Noam Chomsky should really consider what they accept as evidence based opinions. He talks sense, and is completely anti-government.
peterlikesthis 6 months ago
@peterlikesthis
He also believes "government" is too incompetent to pull off a job like 911, but doesn't consider that the "Bush administration" as a whole may have had nothing to do with it. Maybe it was members of the administration--chicken hawk Dick Cheney comes to mind--and other globalist psychopaths intent on creating a new world described by the most massive disparity in wealth ever conceived.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid lol
peterlikesthis 5 months ago
@peterlikesthis
No response other than laughter? You shouldn't so quickly reveal your impatience and arrogance, lest you remain perpetually mistaken. Let me know if you want to exchange actual information about this topic, as it clearly interests us both.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid The 'evidence' of an inside 911 job has long since been debunked.
All nations benefited from 911 - eliminating a U.S motive of self gain.
If 911 was planned, it would be impossible to keep a secret (wiki-leaks as a prime example).
Finally, Alex Jones is a fraud.
peterlikesthis 5 months ago
@peterlikesthis
The evidence has NOT been debunked. Rather, it has grown and strengthened with ZERO adherents to the official story offering a legitimate opposition explanation. You can't disprove that WTC 7 fell at free fall, nor can you disprove the presence of a thermitic substance.
Just regurgitating Chomsky's points doesn't make you right, especially in the face of damning evidence that you automatically assume is "debunked" without showing the slightest shred of proof to back your claim.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid Seriously I'm not even gonna have this conversation. Do you even realize that Alex Jones (the head of this god damn conspiracy group) faked photographs and provided false information in his so called first 'scientific publication' regarding the 911 tragedy? You want the proof? Two planes went into a building, the contents of the building burned into a violent fire which weakened the structure, the building fell vertically as nature intended. End of story.
peterlikesthis 5 months ago
@peterlikesthis
You won't have the conversation because you aren't willing to look at the evidence, and I don't care if Alex Jones is a fraud or not; it doesn't alter the facts, which you refuse to address. Your final statement about the planes reveals how truly bought in you are to the official propaganda, which I take to mean you have abandoned all critical thinking for the convenience of believing everything is okay. Your hateful profanity-laden posts just underscore your cowardice.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid God damn conspiracy theorist. I'm a critical thinker. I bet you are a god damn christian too.
peterlikesthis 5 months ago