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  • Very inneffective for someone who can throw fast round kicks. Can get knocked out trying to do this because the arms are down.

  • @lssrrgsn You are right, but you average enemy combatant isn't a well trained MMA fighter. Soldiers in the field fight not in shorts and bare feet, but in full combat gear and heavy boots. It slows things down a bit. If a kick is telegraphed, this is a very effective method of take down.

  • @xjxm very good point I didn't notice that the first time through.

  • I like this arguement which-in people express their understanding to each other in an attempt to better grasp the knowledge of a subject. YouTube could benefit from more arguing like this or at least less of the other kind.

  • Or perhaps you're suggesting a FLYING TRIANGLE?

    I suppose it's possible, though I've never seen a one-legged flying triangle. It's extremely difficult to pull off even when you have control of both feet AND you have a wrestling tie on your opponent's neck, which you won't have in this position.

    Sorry, while I suppose it can be done if your opponent is clueless and slow(and you're extremely talented), I don't see it as a viable counter to the leg-catch and sweep.

  • @MrGarky Did you read the part about the high rubber guard that you still have if you fail? If you put all your weight on him like that he won't be standing but he will get on the ground with you.

    Use the leg that he holds to push outwards while throwing the leg you are standing on up and behind him and pulling him with your hand by the collar (or back of tne head or the hand if he doesn't have any). Also try to push the leg that he is holding deep while he is falling. (limited space :/)

  • @MrGarky It is very difficult to get a full triangle, but you can still choke him out, or just punch or go for a gogoplata, rib crush, wrist lock ets. His punches will be very restricted in this position.

    Anyway if he already has your leg he will get you down eventually, better do it in your conditions instead of letting him take a full control. If he is a muay thai fighter he will kick you in the standing leg, and trust me you realy want to avoid that, it hurts like hell.

  • @MrGarky btw if he holds your leg long (closer to the feat) you can't get him down like that. But it is actualy better ;). You just throw yourself back and kick him in the solar plexus with your other leg (no more breathing for him for the rest of the match :))

    Anyway if you have his leg kick him in the standing leg, if he has your leg don't let him do it.

  • my friend grabbed my leg lik this when we were play fighting and just before he took out my standing leg, i just jumped and did a reverse hook hick with my standing leg and sent his glasses flying

    good times

  • What if you get a knee insead of the kick, or a left hook after the block?

    This is not a good defence.

  • @TheApokaliptic good point with the knee, but a hook thrown without the stability of both feet on the ground is not worth throwing, you cant get the weight behind it.

  • @diceniceable

    In normal case yes, there will be lack of power behind the hook. But the thing is that in this case your opponent is down low so you can use the weight of the drop of your body and hit in downwards angle.

    After that you can also make a triangle choke while falling if neaded, with your left leg above his right shoulder.

  • @TheApokaliptic I like the look of this technique because it leaves one arm free to defend with. Look at 0:10 - the right arm is being used to push the upper body. It could easily deal with any hooks or locks attempted. Nothing's perfect in a fight but this move looks really effective if timed right.

  • @xjxm The main problem is that at 0:04 you use both hands to block the leg. With that not only you use more of your body to stop less of his but are also getting down low in front of him (I allready mentioned the nasty knee in the nose you can get if he leave his knee bent instead of kicking, because it will get between your hands).

    Even if you manage to bring him down he can still pull off triangle choke in mid air, and lend on his hands so he won't get hurt.

  • @TheApokaliptic If you concern is with the low block of the kick, I won't argue against that. I've never seen that type of block before and would never use it myself. Catching the leg is something that happens if I was too slow to check or dodge the kick. Even if I totally eat the kick, it's advantageous to catch the leg and thats usually when it happens for me.

    With that said, wreslters get low in front of people all the time. And they aren't terribly concerned with knees.

  • @TheApokaliptic What else would your right arm be doing while the left is stopping the kick? I don't see the triangle as likely if the guy remains standing or even with one leg still held at his side. More likely is the threat of being grabbed and pulled down or striked before the sweep. The knee is a valid threat but that relies on the soldier being able to read the roundhouse kick differently than a straight, rear knee. Do you know of a better way to stuff a roundhouse kick?

  • @xjxm Yes I know. There is some good old style muay thai defences, but here is the best way that is used in both muay thai and wing chun.

    While your opponent is turning his leg for the rowndhouse lowkick, use a leg jab to kick in the upper part of his attacking leg. That stops the kick very effectively and also gives a good amount of pain to your opponent if you know exactly where to kick.

    This move is very safe, effective and easy to perform.

  • @TheApokaliptic That seems good. I think that it'd need a fast, accurate read to counter in what may be a small window of opportunity. You also need to beware your own foot getting caught or a low kick that might put the opponent's foot under your leg which could lead to bad footing. I get how it'd hurt but it doesn't give you the advantage like an advancing block/catch would, though if you wanted the space it'd help. Is there a video where I could see it really happen to better understand?

  • @TheApokaliptic You're not a martial artist, are you?

    Punches are always a threat when you're holding a leg, but any punches that come will be greatly reduced in power because the puncher is off balance--additionally, if he's concentrating on punching, he is NOT concentrating on staying vertical and will be easy to take down. You see variations of this move a lot in MMA, which is why round kicks to the body aren't thrown very often. It's usually to the leg or the head.

  • @MrGarky You got it a bit wrong. The problem is not while you are holding his leg, if you use some muay thai to catch it it is a very good thing to do.

    The problem is this manner of stoping the kick (catching the leg), and the punches you can get wnile you are catching it, not after.

    The second problem is that you assume that he will fight to stay standing, but he can throw himself on his back and grab you with his legs in a triangle. Do not underestimate BJJ. ... (continues)

  • @MrGarky ... Even if he fails the triangle he still has you in a high rubber guard and he can keep punching you in the head or go for a submission (hope you know what rubber guard is).

    If you catch his leg by any move, don't go for just sweeping the back leg like shown on this video, but kick it instead (muay thai ;)).

  • @TheApokaliptic Wait, wait. I had to read your posts twice to make sure I'm not missing something. Are you suggesting that in order to defend against this takedown, a BJJ fighter should throw himself on his back and somehow slap on a triangle?

    If you throw yourself on your back, how is that different than me sweeping your leg and putting you on your back? Either way you're on your back and I'm on my feet. There's no triangle. Just an open guard and ankle control.

    Do you even train BJJ?

  • This is a judo forbidden technique

  • Permant injury to your arm u don't take the blunt force of a kick

  • @KeeganBulldog12 Not an expert but I believe the power of the roundhouse kick is concentrated towards the shin near the foot. If it's stuffed at the knee, it'll have much less force/impact behind it.

  • i luv dat move

  • when will an enemy roundhouse you?other if its chuck norris but other than that he would use his gun!

  • @mbc14k Ammo runs out, Weapons jam,

  • Does Marine Martial Arts just mean Judo/Jujitsu? :)

  • @KTK401 basically lmfao

  • Judo !

  • JEFF HARDY uses this..

  • right after u do that u get the chaance to fuck ur female enemy due to their habit to open legs after falling

  • This is a horrible idea. whoever is teaching our military this needs to be demoted. As you lean in to block the kick with your forearms, whats to stop it from sliding up to your face that is conviently there?

  • @HannibalSanchez You have to remember that this block is taught to recruits at boot camp. It's something that is later expounded upon at different belt levels. For example at the Green Belt level (Lv. 3) we don't even use this block without going into a completely different combination of strikes. My instructor can go through a six strike combo in just under 3 seconds. The Marines are the finest fighting force in the world for a reason.

  • @HannibalSanchez It's a single technique that's meant to be used when the opportunity presents itself, not a foolproof technique.

  • It Looks Like Two T-1000 Doing Gross, Inappropriate Things To Each Other....

    AND I DO NOT WANT TO BE A PART OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • this wont work if its Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick

  • FINISH HIM

  • This leaves your balls wide open 0.o i can think of the most sutible finisher ...

  • This is the most awesome move ever. It's really easy to start with and with practice you can execute this really fluidly (as if it were one motion).

  • Some guys and girls will counter and let you grab a leg then they grab you with their hands some where around your head or shoulders. Then wrap around the waist with both legs in a siccors lock like a baby hanging on a mother. If you lean foward to do the sweep your going to be off balance big time. You both fall then its a ground game. To counter being pulled of balance sit down on your ass or get that ass close to the ground as you can. Basic white belt move here but I love it. HUUURA

  • @BadguyturnedGood Do you really want a Marine with a full combat load landing on your chest. You would likely suffer "flail" chest and die a reather horrible death.

  • @Robbob9933 Fall on a sword or a k-bar and make it a quick clean death... ok. Or watch out for someone pulling a small pistol out of a side pocket on the way down. FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS AN OPPOSITE AND EQUAL REACTION. WHATS TO STOP ME FROM TOSSING YOUR ASS OVER THE SIDE INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU HAVE YOUR WAY AND FALLING ON ME?

  • @BadguyturnedGood When you start in a chest to chest position and you are being jacked onto your back, you have ZERO leverage. There is no time to think, only muscle memory will apply. Playing Hans only works in the movies.

  • @Robbob9933 "My only answer... is because the average Leatherneck is a much better fighter. He has far more guts, courage, and better officers... These boys out here have a pride in the Marine Corps and will fight to the end no matter what the cost." 2nd Lt. Richard C. Kennard, Peleliu, World War II

  • @Robbob9933 You might want to check out some black belt jujitsu tecniques in 'ZERO' gravite. Yes it takes a lot of practise in order to react in time. Matter of fact I am overseas posting these comments and there are some Pakistain Anti-American types around the corner that need to be evicted. Could be I will get the chance today to put my skills to the test. Later Mac.

  • @Robbob9933 I can use a persons energy against them. Give me a little bit of momentum, like pushing me, and leverage will follow. You understand? Objects in motion are said to have a momentum. That vector can be controlled and changed by someone who knows how to control themselves.

  • m... m... a?

  • Theres no such thing as defence when your opponents Chuck norris

  • @phatwarlord there is no such a thing as life when yor opponents Chuck Norris

  • Do you kids know how dangerous it is to attempt this defensive move? A Tae Kwon Do roundhouse kick or 360 roundhouse kick or a Maui Thai kick would break your arm if you tried to grab it.

  • @muststayfresh Kicks get grabbed all the time in Muay Thai and MMA. It's a standard tactic.

  • @muststayfresh Not if you move in on the thigh. In a round house, the thigh and knee are outputting very little force, thus if you are inside and grab the thigh (as demonstrated in the video) you will probably only feel a nudge before flattening them. Though I agree if you were to take the shin and got hit in the arms, at least one of them would break.

  • @Unitzero25 Completely agree, taking the instep or the shin will mean broken bones or internal blows but going in on the thigh is still putting out a lot of force but not enough to hit you away. And also, going in on the thigh is a split second reaction, not even a second. Very hard to do

  • I knew there had to be at least ONE chuck norris comment XD

  • Chuck Norris Does Not Approve.

  • never fight a grey dude

  • can this move defend me against chuck norris' roundhouse kick?

  • Im going to try this on my wife...

  • @WiseSurf "that could cause permanent injury"... "HONEY! i have something to show you!"

  • @WiseSurf Why would she kick you? Have you been stealing her mints?

  • @WiseSurf Dude, not funny.

  • Back leg sweep is not the most effective technique to bring him down (IMO).

  • I think I'm going to try this in self defense tommorow

  • judo? :D

  • mmmh...not really a good defense

    forearm vs leg --> leg will win 9 times outta 10

  • @ssttEvoooo thats why you practice it day after day after day until the bones in your forearm are toughened enough to sustain the force of that blow. then, it hurts that guys shin AND his back, but YOU dont get hurt at all. trust me, its been proven that the bones will calcify and toughen up. dont call bs on stuff you dont know enough about yet.

  • Watch out chuck Norris..finally the round house is my strongest kick but I always think what if someone pulls it on me and now I know what to do

  • or back kick him lol

  • @pete9490 When you do that you can do whatever the hell you want to him. Punch it, elbow it, go crazy.

  • Leonidus was lucky the persian messager didnt know this move...

  • @MikbaninX he didnt throw a roundhouse. it was a teep, or a forward snap kick........

  • @BunnyBUNGALO you know what i mean, Leonidus was lucky the persian messanger didn't know how to defend a kick and the guy on this video didnt roundhouse either it was a sidekick/roundkick

  • @MikbaninX too bad Leonidas used a thrust kick, not a round house

  • @BroseConseco hm true. Not even Human Weapon can defend from that. 0.o

  • @MikbaninX leonidas didnt throw round kick, but migery

  • @banag11 someone already corrected me but thank you.

  • @MikbaninX Leonidas did a front kick, sir.

  • @DaRanger1993 oh my fucking god, you are the 3rd person to correct me, I know.

  • @MikbaninX If it's any consolation, this technique could work against a front kick as well.

  • @ThePinkMan true. I guess it's still a viable comment.

  • @MikbaninX too bad leonidas used a front/push kick instead of a round kick...

  • @waldomarek yes, I know, but the messenger could do the same thing.

  • @MikbaninX :))))

  • @MikbaninX Leonidas kicked forward, not from the side

  • @MikbaninX the persian messenger could do the same technique

  • Am I the only one who notices he has a clear shot to the nuts when he knocks him down?

  • @SomeNightElf You can actually put your knees on his knees, leaving his nuts even more vulnurable, and punch him:) that works very well;)

  • I remember practicing this in karate class back in the summer only we shortened the movement.

    Here they use both arms to block, then one to trap the leg and the other to the torso.

    In class, we extend one arm to block & scoop it from underneath. The other hand is by the face in case they try something, and it's already there to check the torso. Either way you do it, this is a good maneuver, you just have to be quick with the takedown. Take too long, and your back is exposed.

  • YOU DONT take your right leg off the ground.

  • ummmm.....the hit to the shin would have made me go on the ground ffs

    

  • After you slam him to the ground if your a SMART marine youd pull your side arm and cap his ass while hes on the ground. (if you didnt have your primary.)

  • @redron213 or just a punch to the wind pipe

  • @redron213 Most infantry specialties are not issued "sidearms". It is either your m16a4, your kbar, or your foot.

  • @melancholyid Oh, well excuse my being misinformed. Im no marine, I just figured a sidearm pistol would beissued. I'll do my research next time.

  • @redron213 Hey, no problem man.

  • @melancholyid Lol just a teenager with a thing for martial arts. Muay thai student sven years now.

  • @melancholyid sorry to interrupt, but if you went and looked right here: wwwDOTmarinesDOTcomSLASHmainSL­ASHindexSLASHwinning_battlesSL­ASHgear then you would see the gear that your average enlisted marine is issued. Included? An M9 Baretta pistol as a sidearm.

  • @shengbiao1

    The website is wrong, I'm sorry to say. The only infantry MOSs issued M9's are mortars and 0352s, Towgunners.

    Look man, I was an infantry fireteam leader. I've been to Iraq twice and was in Fallujah for operation Phantom Fury, 1st Bt 8th Marines, C.Co. I think I would know.

  • @melancholyid

    Sorry bro...as an 0369, I can tell you this...

    0331 Machine Gunner (the gunner gets an M9)

    0341 Mortarman (the gunner gets an M9)

    0351 Assaultman (you guessed it.)

    0352 Tow gunner (yep...same deal) The actual handing out of M9's really depends on the armory and the Company's TO...however, by the publications, it is supposed to be the above mentioned layout.

  • @Chilibowl77

    Yeah, about that.

    0331s are usually stationed as suppressing fire elements. They cover advancing units and are rarely if ever on point, the exception being if we are on vehicles, then a m.gunner would be on the turret of the lead vehicle. Mortarmen are so far behind that it isn't worth mentioning. Assaultmen would be the exception, since they might be with 0311's since they are also trained for demo, hence door breaching.

    The 0311s, which do the most MOUT, do not have them.

  • @melancholyid You need to differintiate between 60mm and 81mm. My cousin is in a unit with a video here on YTube and they had their 60mms up on the line quite often and they carried M16s. Back in the mid-1980s when MOUT was being brought back into fashion, 0311s were supposed to get the M9s in addition to the M16.

  • @Robbob9933

    Whats your point?

  • @Chilibowl77

    But you are right, technically 0331's and assaultmen are supposed to have M9's, and to the best of my recollection, they did.

    My argument was that 0311's were not supposed to have them. If you still have your 6-5, you can read that and see my point. We have rifles simply because of the ranges we are expected to fight. Weapon's company have M9's because, honestly, I don't expect a mortarman to launch a mortar at a single guy that snuck into their dig out.

  • @redron213 Just out of curiosity, if you've got your sidearm, why didnt you shoot him to begin with, before he closed in on you and kicked you..? You don't even have to shoot him, you could just use it to intimidate him and prevent the entire violent act from occuring anyways

  • @shengbiao1 Say your walking. Going round a corner in a building. Random enemy appears at point blank no time to draw your side arm. Hand to hand combat ensues. After you slam himn, you pull your side arm and shoot him.

  • @shengbiao1 if your fighting an enemy like the japanese or taliban who are totally fine with losing theyre life in battle you best be pullin that trigger or those crazy little guys will still come at you.....they dont get intimidated

  • @redron213 and if the DEFENDER is smart he would know he is reaching for something, BAM armbar marine has broken arm.

  • @nowisnever Not is he was on the ground, after you slam him, I would back up. Just sayin.

  • @redron213 lol... when someone is slamming you, you grab on certain locations to reduce the impact if he's any good he wont let go enough for you "back up". Grappling is more effective then you think.

  • @redron213 If you were a SMART civilian, you'd know we aren't issued sidearms in most instances, and more than likely, you're doing this because your weapon is temporarily disposed of because you probably already fucked up once before.

  • @Bigp426 Finally someone who actually knows shit

  • @redron213 a smart marine wouldnt of let someone get that close..

  • @elliotb92 You have no concept of the dynamics of combat. The "meeting engagement" is where two opposing units litterally stumble into one another. Lead elements engage in close quarters (hand to hand) fighting. Some trailing elements create a base of fire to engage opposing trailing elements. Some trailing elements engage in flanking actions to put opposition in a disadvantage. Ramaining trailing elements are reserve and command and control who provide rear and flank security.

  • @redron213 waste of bullets, use your knife. it doesn´t make merely as much noise and its way cheaper.

  • @redron213 and what if u intend to take ur target down instead of killing him??

  • @fakirakos At that point what I personally would do is once hes on the ground, try to grab his ankle and wrench it broken so he cannot walk.

  • @redron213 If you don't have a weapon do an axe kick to the face...

  • @redron213

    I think a smart marine with the intention to kill would just shoot before all of this happent if he had a weapon

  • @redron213 If he was SMART, he would not have got into a fist fight and shot the cunt.

  • @redron213 if you were a SMART marine like me ud end the conlict before he got within 10 feet of u lol

  • @redron213

    IF you were a SMART marine you would have shot him earlier With your sidearm

  • @redron213 If you have your sidearm, you're probably not in a hand-to-hand combat situation. 

  • @redron213 If you were SMART he wouldn't be so close to you in the first place.

  • @redron213 actually marines arent allowed to shoot without authorization ergo why they are trained in MCMAP

  • As great as some martial arts may be, nothing is going to do you more good in a fight than actual fight experience...

    Not sparring or play fighting; real fighting. Where the guy in front of you wants you dead.

    Because then, every move you make could be your last, and it teaches you to be fast, brutal and not to cock up.

    I've done a few martial arts and boxing is my favourite because as great as a super powered Bruce Lee move is, not many people can get their jaw broken and still fight well.

  • @MadamKouassi Boxing is great. 7-8 months training in a good club and you kayo most guys with one shot, if not, then the second does it. Best 'reality' exp is sparring in boxing. In karate, 'light contact' sparring you are practisng 'almot hitting' No flow.

    After that Judo/wrestling. but hey, after 2-3 years of this stuff.. do realize that you are training for astreet fight you might never have. Marine Corps syllabus is good enough

  • @7vitaman You shouldn't generalize about any martial art. I nearly got KO'd at my black belt test. Some schools have lighter contact, but those schools are more for discipline and training. On the other hand, there are a large number of schools that don't fuck around. Your best guys vs our best guys would be interesting in a street fight.

  • @metalmankeith That's not where I was coming from. 'My dad can beat your dad' is very old. I took maybe a dozen Shito-Ryu kar' lessons. Believe it or not, my punches were good from the get go. Kicks, not so much. (I do Tai chi and most of those moves are 'mapped' into Kung fu and karate, so in the muscle memory already) Anyhow, I like that style. If nothing else, you get into great shape. and f have a huge edge against an untrained man. Boxer:Karateka = whoever lands the first shot

  • Man I just wanna learn some EASY self defense, not making somebody handicapp'd for the rest of he's life. And btw, thats really easy to do.

  • @flakrim12 yeah, this is marine martial arts, meaning its meant for war situations. You want something like aikido, which involves a lot of locks and CAN be used to break bones but it is very optional. It is often used by law enforcement. but really you can modify most martial arts to be less than incapacitating.

  • By the time you grabbed their leg you get elbowed in the face look where the kickers arm is... right next to his face

  • @powerdon108

    Maybe, but he doesn't have any force behind it.

  • @powerdon108 Speed speed and more speed. Otherwise u are right. Few guys have that instinct, though

  • Great move if you wanna eat a fist for lunch

  • it is most reccomended that the kick be followed through byb a little pickme up of the arm follwed by a front kick to the groin but thats just nasty

  • AMERICAN ARMY BLOWS... THEY ONLY RELY ON THEIR TECHNOLOGY

  • @strengthnfaith Your mother blows...

  • @strengthnfaith fortunately, our technology is better than yours.

  • who the fuck would stupidly kick a marine in the mid section? who the fuck fights like that? anyone who would be bold enough to do that would probably be too strong to reverse it, or he is stupid and hit him in the face...

  • the silver surfer kicks ass

  • shame that looks like it'd break your forearms

  • Permanent injury? Come on

  • Good Good....... now stomp on his balls, I can feel the hatred flowing through you. The Dark Side Is STRONG with this one!!!!! XD

  • Taekwondo Black belt w/ uber high degree ?

  • Ouch! O_O

  • Kata Ashi Dori -> Great Judo-technik

  • id come in after with a forearm to the nose.

  • shoulda stomped him in the nuts

  • lol, see how its always the white guy that wins

  • people with conditioned shins = broken forearm

  • @SuckMehDook people with guns at a distance = dead you

    can't really compare...

  • @SuckMehDook That's why you have to burst in and stop the kick before it has time to accelerate and break your bones. I was too slow doing this against a muay thai friend of mine and it hurt, but I pulled it off the second time.

  • @SuckMehDook people with conditioned forearms = brocken shins.... You never know

  • @SuckMehDook not true, you can stop a base ball players bat swing much easier by catching the swing much earlier. Its a simple physics problem the force is generated by the arc inscribed, before the kick is snapped it has much less force. Try it go out back stand a foot away from your punching bag and make as if to kick a target 2-3 feet away you should see that rather than doing any damage you merely push on it and push your self off balance.

  • @bobbysnobby Very true. It depends on how early you catch it. I stand corrected

  • @bobbysnobby can your said a vidio that fight a small person with a person biger than he and win (sorey, I am español)

  • @bobbysnobby throw ninja stars xD

  • @bobbysnobby unless you're bruce lee then you can just be 1 inch from the guy

  • @SuckMehDook What about conditioned forearms?

  • now stomp on his balls

  • you know what would be more painful? if the light guy went down with him. ribs are gunna get pwned

  • you guys really think you can do this?

  • You gotta be really quick and see that one coming a mile away to pull it off...What I would think would be better is to step with the kick, and catch it at the end of the kick when it has no power, then continue with the technique...If that guy faked the kick, or went to the head with that, it wouldn't turn out so pretty...

  • @mizzike16 only a martil arts student can perfomer a kick in the head this move is good to use in bullies and other idiots... because its 95% right they dont know any shit about martial arts ! but i prefer wing chu where you can protect your body and head with only one hand...

  • @JJOOKER

    I prefer a taser. 

  • woundnt block a chuck norris roundhouse o.o

  • Only retards begin with a roundhouse.

  • @Imat00l That wasn't a roundhouse, read the fucking name, it's a round kick.