I know this is OLD, but i just wanted to say no one can prove OR disprove the existence of God, or indeed a creator.
Religion however, you can say scientifically that it is ALL bullshit.
Also, did you notice the Marxist tone in zietgiest?
Here's a tip for you, and i guess everyone else to, "Its better to have prayed and found out there was no god, than to have never prayed and found out there was a god".
Zeitgeist isn't proven fact but concepts largely based from the Theosophical Society, if you look into the general references on Zeitgeist and concepts you would find these concepts come from past influential members from the Theosophical Society. I am not a critic of one concepts being Zeitgeist or the other concept around Yahshua. Take time do your own study come to your own conclusion instead of being easily indoctrinated by any concept that is not historical base or morally wrong.
@TheMidwestsk8ter Venus Project is just ONE approach of a solution which MIGHT be the best which is not even finished. I would say there are tons of options but no one thinks about something on their own. They prefer to follow like sheep.
@TheMidwestsk8ter No if you would just agree you wouldn't block all other ideas and act like some extremist Christian. It's not about Money vs. RBE there are tons of different views and ideas but some Zeitgeist people act if they have the only solution. But well that solution isn't even 100% thought through. e.g. no one knows how to change into a system like that...you can run around & create a revolution but without any idea what will happen after that...what's the point? it will stay the same
yes I'm talking about people I wrote with until now...hm maybe just some Zeitgeist criticism: My basic critique against some Zeitgeist interpretations is that EVERYTHING is controlled by machines & PCs just saying so that we can do this & that. With this thought and the claim Zeitgeist doesn't have anything to do with politics we would hand over our power to something we created ourselves (or to some people which might control it) so I think politics would still be necessary just a better sytsem
Well it's just a big problem that our politicians are too stupid to change something - at least in Germany - since our system lets us vote a little deeper than in the USA...what I think is that we need to organize the whole democracy to a DIRECT democracy (therefore a real one) where every person can help decide. Yes we got the technology: Internet! Now we just need the software & of course education so that people are able to be constructive & non extremist. (but still have own opinions)
@TheMidwestsk8ter But that's not everything. Lots of folks seem to recognize that there are certain families active in politics all the time. But that's natural - "Daddy did it so what else should I do?" Problem with that is that they don't have the passion as there grandfathers had...at least I think that...so no wonder that their ideas and mentality sucks. Still if you are honest...who else would do those jobs in our current society? xD
The truth shall set you free, they said...not set your stomach free, haha. (thow up yet? lol) It's fearmongering out of context BC designed to brainwash--nothing new under the sun.
Therapy? let me give an example, no one is paying for his therapy, counterfeit money is produced by the government that could easily incriminate anyone. I picked this up from an old comment that I'd regret I can not tell the rest.
How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
If men inspired by god wrote the bible, how did they get the names wrong of Jesus, Jahova, Joshua, Jacob and others.
@GREENSBEATS i see 2 options. the first, world war 3. the second is the obliteration of goverments and people in power in the western worlds as the arabs did, and for a better out come from that, theres must be unity between people all over the world. as for making the "Venus project" work, patience, acceptance and listening has to be part of the basic essence. either way, it seems that hard times coming ahead for everyone.
Ya I was sick to my stomach after I watched the zeitgeist movie to. Because I realized how fucked up our world is today, and how pathetic our system is. If you had a intelligent part of your brain, this all makes perfect logical and factual sense.
Dear Heidi: I don't get the point? What are you sick of? NWO or your eyes were wide open, so you took the red pill, hehehehe. Welcome to the real world. Hear some music, drink a scotch and make love with your boyfriend, tomorrow is gonna be a great day.....
What the...? Was she criticising zeitgeist or for it? Yes, all the zeitgeist movies made me feel sad but they also made me feel hopeful and made me feel like my life has a purpose now, a relevance. Everything else - owning property, constructing an ego-led image of myself that is totally fake, having to be brutal and competitive instead of cooperative makes me feel sick as I wasn't made that way and I resent being forced to be that way in order to 'survive'. Luckily survival doesn't cost much.
you are a classic VICTIM! FALSE HOPE BASED IN LIES! 100,000 extra humans a day make them all liar that can solve basic math or the word city/OVERPOPULATION and how IMPOSSIBLE RBE is aside of it being just a catch phaze and has no science or logic to it... R= YOU the resource or nothing moves. B =YOU as you have to do the work! E= you because it is all of you...you work for money is what RBE means... or let be POOR as we give all we have to the poor and be like them! TVP AND TZM =W.WAR
Read, watch, think and then talk like that because it sounds like you're not at all knowledgeable about the zeitgeist movement or about economics in general. Good luck.
" It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
educate yourself. visit the site, substitute dot for a . zeitgeist is poorly researched, and contains innumerable false claims. At first glance, zeitgeist (which means spirit of the age) is a great film but the errors are overwhelming. Always research.
I've investigated The Venus Project for about 2.5 years now and I've found no flaws. At least not yet. The biggest misconceptions that are out there are:
1)There's no room for individuality or religion. These are encouraged because they're healthy and productive.
2)Its Communism. This has nothing to do with any monetary-system.
3)Devil Worship. LOL. Really?
4)It will never happen. Not with that attitude.
All "flaws" seem to be projected. just Investigate it please.
btw ... zeitgeist = an attempt to establish a master religion ... why else waste an entire hour of our lives lying about other religions ? ... ... zeitgeist can't genetically engineer a master race .. yet .. because it need you morons to believe in it before it can get that far.
@HelpfulLawrence I'm still learning and I hope I continue to do so. You've stopped learning by the sounds of things ! By no means have I made my mind up about anything I have read or heard but If you think calling me fuckwad ..lol will close my mind or stop me learning then you just carry on ranting !
@HelpfulLawrence that call paranoia...they just try to build a better future for everybody whit a different way to think..to be inform..to not being slave of this economic system...i think you didnt see the same movie as me..or maybe you were on drug...theres always a question of balance dude...i thinks Zeitgeist is 80% right and very smart....id like to heard your concept of our future world
Zeitgeist lied to us in the first video [watch?v=JuyIxKrw2Yk] .. now you morons that are commenting on here want to believe shit ??? doenst matter if u believe in jesus or not ... these fuckheads made shit up , and that is not a lie. ......fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me ...
The only way we can have utopia is if we genetically modify peoples DNA to be docile and sheepish (too late?). Otherwise, you will always have spoiled shit-eating brats who take over daddy's business or superpower. They are talking hype, not reality. We have people who made better designs than the Venus project and every single one has been banned from being tested. Why? This is for the elite and VERY RICH, not even president rich, trust me, this is a plot to euthanize people.
We are never going to live in a perfect world with no crime, no poverty..etc..BUT we can work towards a brighter future! Overthrow the government! The way the United States is run this days is appalling. the way is see it, the zeitgeist is painting this perfect utopia (remember Hitler?) & we should believe it is possible? but in reality it is only distracting us from the true state of the world. The principal idea behind the monetary system is not a bad thing, but the current system must change.
Never heard anyone from that organisation say Zeitgeist is a Utopia..ever ! also (Utopia and Hitler ?) When Jacque Fresco talks about thinking outside the box I think he means this isn't something we can reference from past history,this idea is crazy because it's possible yet it seems totally impossible in practise. To govern ourselves without the incentive of money is not impossible if we have no need for money that is also Modern banking in principal is total overkill, literally...ha
@itchcitizen2 maybe they didnt use the word 'utopia' .. they just promised a world with no crime, no poverty, and you can everything you ever wanted for free.. .. OOPS MY BAD. ...
@itchcitizen2 Also, you have proven yourself to be an uneducated fuckwad (Hitler and Utopia?) .. He wanted to genetically engineer a master race and socioeconomically establish and entrench a master religion, .... and exterminate all others. Eliminating the Jews was the key to Hitler's utopia. There is an entire book about it .. "The Roots of Nazi Psychology: Hitler's Utopian Barbarism" ... go back to school, or just keepin' suckling Fresco's jew-knob.
@HelpfulLawrence you have no type of imagination. who said its impossible? scarcity and money are main things holding us back. create abundance of food, energy, and technology than anything is possible.
@HelpfulLawrence Be the change you want the world to be. If you and everone else don't believe the world can be something like a utopia thyen it never will be.
Maybe the change we should fight for is not the ridiculousness suggested by the Zeitgeist, which would effectively enslave us to whoever controls "resources".. but a radical change in government. Instead of spending billions of dollars to fight 'terrorists' and the drug war, why can't that money be spent on hydroponic vegetable gardens (that can be put anywhere, even a fucking desert) and safe and well managed low income housing? Or should we keep dreaming about living in a perfect utopia?
@tomrichardson83 The video does raise some good questions .. but I believe that the answers they offer are deceptive. I do agree the world is fucked.... you have some people who have more money than they could possibly ever spend, own multiple homes, expensive cars, and eat only the finest food (and probably throw half it away) while so many are starving... something should be done. But does the Zeitgeist video really offer reasonable solutions ? I think not.
think about it this way...do you think humans can actually co-exist peacefully with one another? violence and corruption will always be in place no matter what the "setting". the venus project or zeitgeist or whatever you want to call it is just another idea of what could happen. its practical but long before i live to see it.
@lockypocky So because you won't live to see it and it won't benefit you directly, you have no interest in working towards it? Selfish Prick! In case you haven't noticed, about 95% of the planet coexists in peace today. It is the governments, transnational corporations and banks that pit us against each other to acquire profit and ensure they maintain their way of life. Removing the monetary-market system would actually collapse their power centers enabling the rest of us to take back our planet
@GimmeTheReason youre the prick for assuming that i have no interest in the venus project. i am very interested and fascinated. will i work towards this "idea"? maybe i will maybe i wont. seems like just bc i dont take action or i dont view this new world civilization the way you do, im a selfish prick. i know my facts...you know yours. dont be a condescending douchebag.
I watched it ... At first I was very impressed and very much on side with it. But I then do what I always do and look for a devils advocates point of view. I'm not sure what to think atm. I'll keep digging until all my questions have been answered. Looks like that won't be for some time.
@FinalFantasyTB303 she never said she needed a THERAPY bill for her stomach , she was just expressing how the movie assaulted her senses both physically and mentally. Go back to your brainwash, fucking sheep.
how about them 3 billion living on RICE AND BEANS for LIFE! How about the 100,000 Humans added a DAY to the planet making RBE full premeditated criminal lies to steal donations. Why build a city for billions in donations when cyberspace can do it for near free? Why hate Jesus and try to build his Church city for if not to steal his glory? Why did JF put in a book that HE THINKS robots will KILL humans and take over and keep only a few breeding stock Humans? DID You know??
@Peterwhitlock cyberspace, did I missed something? I could talk with you for hours here about where civilization gone wrong, nationalism, religions, wars, nature, reducing of population, bankers association and it would be pointless. I can't change someone's mind if he can't think open minded, reset his brain and erase all false beliefs he inherited and developed. Most of people don't search for answers, they just follow masses in same direction and that's why self destrucion is inevitable.
Roxanne meadows was accused of DONATION stealing as in 419 fraud and we even predicted she would claim CGI cosat lots to ask for more donation on march 12th 2011 and guess what? SHE DID! 100% exactly what we said she had to do to steal more doantions!
with RBE a complete fail and her asking donation when katrina Haiti and Japan just proved also on top how low life desgusting person she is.
The Zeitgeist Movement is NWO. There are many interpretations of the NWO, far right and far left for example, and the Zeitgeist Movement is the far left interpretation.
So, for those of you who mistakenly believed that Zeitgeist was anti-NWO, you were decieved and tricked by the first film. The 2nd and 3rd film are blatant in their support for The New World Order, which in the Zeitgeist Movement is Scientific Communism.
@TheStarfkr Can i ask this? If you do not support the "NWO", what would you support as something to help humanity, or do you rather we continue the way we are and live miserably on this planet. Dont get me wrong I don not endorse eliminating Billions to "start afresh" a new system but if we complain, have a solution...
Good question. So by your logic, because our current system is flawed we should just scrap it and embrace the Scientific Communism and have robots rule over us as TZM wants, right? So therefore don't bother trying to fix the system and get rid of the corruption, just surrender to tyranny and let the robots rule, right? TZM wants the current system to fail but what they don't tell you is that if the current system fails we get MARTIAL LAW, not the Venus Project.
@TheStarfkr You are spot on. I got banned from the new official zeitgeist video for speaking a similar truth. You should take your message there and wake those people up.
@TheStarfkr Get your facts straight! Machines will not rule. They monitor and manage planetary resources, are used to upgrade manufacturing and distribution of goods, and computers are used to store and retrieve all scientific knowledge acquired to date so that we do not continue to rape and abuse the earth. It isn't communism. No money, no labour and communism never took into account using technology to its highest potential. Martial law wouldn't last long against so many people. Look at Egypt.
I love the zombies who believe that just because they say it's not communism somehow makes it true. The world has seen a resource-based economy. It was called the Soviet Union. There will be money. That's where you zombies stumble over and over again. It will be a cashless society but there will still be money. I've seen the propaganda films of the "sustainable cities" of the future. The elites still rule over the "unwashed masses". (cont.)
(continued) There's no paper money, but in the videos they call it "calorie credits". Common people must work at a jobe dictated to them, cannot own private property, and do not have access to private transportation. The elite meanwhile have access to all of these. You do realize you will never get everything you want, only part of what you want. You do realize Egypt has not seen the horrors of Martial Law quite yet. It's getting there, but not quite yet.
Even if I think the documentary(ies) make some good points end expose a little bit of 'truth' I think it's in great part just pure bullcrap...
Anyways; Search for TROM; it continues on Zeitgeist I think; Don't know didn't check it yet...
P.S. And why the drama? I mean it's not that you heard anything new in the Zeitgeist... You just got a confirmation and details on something you probably already knew is going on out there behind the curtains...
The Zeitgeist Movement is not about controlling and enslaving anyone, if you truly dearly think that, please enlighten me as to how it is. Maybe you should research it, and see what it's actually about instead of just dismissing it as fake and gay or impossible just because we advocate a system that has been ingrained into your head from birth.
TZM was asking millions to build Z land... wel it cost only a few buck in cyber space!
TVP was asking donations for 35 years and did not do a dam thing but ask for more
be aware they are crooks and don't let the sea of lies take you in woman! do not be fooled! it is all shock and lies and give us cash to fix things but when ask how they say sprwad the word... well that did not work and people are upset they asked for money for fake projets now all exposed and in the air about to fail.
@Peterwhitlock and where is your proof of this claim? I am a part of the zeitgeist movement, and I've never paid a dime, if you're talking about gaining financial support by selling T-SHIRTS then WOW! That's so horrible. if you're going to bash this project then I encourage you to ACTUALLY know what the hell your talking about
You IDIOT they want you to build Z LAND that one single person would own... a whole city owned by 1 human...Roxanne Meadows! it is as Satanic and criminal fraud 419 as you can get!
no need of any of it!
YOU ARE A VICTIM! you were asked to SPREAD THE WORD like it was the word of the Bible stolen to make RBE that is a catch phrase to fool VICTIMS from NON MONETARY planet the Bible promise is about! No merchants or politics seals as equals in the church of Jesus template cities!
@Peterwhitlock If you cannot see why the bible would "predict" not being controlled by money was a bad thing then I feel sorry for you. The same type of people have controlled us for thousands of years, I'm not saying one group like Illuminati or whatever, just people with a common interest, control and profit.
They control the politicians, they promote dogma to live by, and the enslave with debt. Of course the bible was written to suggest that the monetary system is necessary.
You are and IDIOT too lazy to even click my name and see i teach the opposite! i teach the Churchg template from 2000 years ago is here and beats all the lies of others and does more! Not less like you think as fool!
I say it belongs to Jesus not TVP! that steal it! and claim a catch phrase you are too dumb to know does not exist but as a catch phrase! NON MONETARY PLANET comes from the Church not TVP!
You support a 419 fraud scam watch my clips FOOL! we are better them!
@Peterwhitlock Also this "Z Land" you're referring to is completely fictional, and is probably your poor attempt to understand it's fundamental concept.
Resource based economy is basically a society that focuses on education, and technology. All of the worlds recources would be equally distributed and a universal goal of renewable energy and housing, clothing and overall major difference in quality of life. Everyone would own everything equally.
Z land is a donation project of TZM to build the experimental city that TVP stole from EPCOT and the THEIST of the planet to play SATANIST and claim they came up with it when none of it belongs to them...watch my clips and learn you are on the wrong side! We have the cure and answers and they don't ! W e do not mix! We have it and you can't use it less you are with us TVP and TZM can't use the church of Jesus EVER They are not Theist or have any work done in the project!
@Peterwhitlock Certain problems would be solved by a team of the highest qualified professionals who have only the goal to fix the issue, not profit from it, unlike today.
They have never claimed anyone would control it, it's fundamentally against their whole proposal. Jaque Fresco the main engineer of the project is over 90 years old, his intentions are not for power, as he will never see it take effect.
It's not perfect, but it's better than where we are heading now...
Last time we had that YOU IDIOT we had to KILL THEM IN WORLD WAR II
YOu are telling me how HITLER and HIS SS worked! YOU are so IGNORANT and know so little of reality and history!
YOU are on the WRONG SIDE! We have it they lie saying you have to help them find it! DA!!!!!!!
wake the f$#$# up!
they offer you smoke and mirrors and we offer your FREE all you need to save the future as GIFT from Jesus to all BUT TVP AND TZM seen as thieves and liar's effort to replace prophecy.
@Peterwhitlock You have no idea about the Venus Project, do you? Nor do you know anything about Hitler's regime in WW2. Adolf Hitler was a man who wanted to wipe out any people different to him.
The core sentiment of the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist movement is to unite Humanity, and in fact remove all military and fascist troops controlled by arms of the government. It's about getting us back on track to a peaceful life for everyone in a sustainable world.
hey dummy not using the brain "A chicken in every pot and a Volkswagen in every driveway" and we are the good people.... I assume you are too young to know all such evil people start out like TVP saying lies to get fools sucked in before they do the insane thing...TVP is kindly asking you to help start the 3rd world war so you can be rewarded with RBE. Oh we have nothing to do with it (but mention it all the time kind of evil)
Zeitgeist and TVP have a SATANIC agenda top hate scripture but steal the prophecy and claim they are the ones that bring it when they don't even have the city to end Money and make people equals! You are too dumb to know evil from good or liars from truth... they stole all from EPCOT to scam donations and land AND they claim all the good stuff from the Bible as if they came up with it... you are not only dumb but a traitor dumb like Hitler's Minions fell for his lies!
@Peterwhitlock Also if you want to make a reasoned argument why don't you try ACTUALLY looking up what you're talking about. All of your argument was utter speculation.
Try to insult me less also, why would I listen to someone who can't string a few sentences together without seemingly losing control?
Seriously, look it up. The Venus Project can not "benefit" from their proposal, it's a society based on REAL equality. Not too be confused with previous corrupt communism...
@Peterwhitlock I just watched the video you posted as a reply...
Now I understand why you fail to understand the Venus Project. Please read my comments, then do some real research, i.e go to their site and read what they actually say, not what you've heard from some christian "debunker".
you run from one stupid conclusion to the next... NO MORON! they are what we say they are because we have proof only over 2000 years old! you imbecile! How dare you try to reduce the religions of the world to one claim when we all know they stole our prophecy and promise from the bible and claim YOU have to serve them just like the prophecy say EVIL WOULD DO! and LOOK Hitler like teachings in a sea of lies!
@Peterwhitlock first of all, lets not call each other names. I'm sure we both graduated from elementary school yes? second, Z LAND? the Venus Project is an attempt at uniting all people together, whether you're a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever. the Venus Project is NOT a Satanic or criminal fraud. we understand and address the problems and needs that we have today. what are our needs? clean water, food, clothing, and shelter, and with the Venus Project we can provide that for EVERYONE freely
Z land is a con job to steal donation in rder to buy themselves land just like they did in 1975 and stole all the money from members and land and work and buildings to make a love nest for Roxanne Meadows. It is called 419 fraud and you are a dumb victim too dumb to do anything but repeat the lies they say. The hate kids and religions you fool! They teach you how they treat kid! pass them round like pups! never women and children first skill first like the SS used!
@Peterwhitlock we want to utilize technology to create an Abunance for all, we can end world hunger, we can end poverty, we can provide a better way of living for the entire world, including plants and animals... now who owns and runs the Venus Project you ask?... No one. let me make it clear, NO ONE! we all own it, I know that may sound quite weird but hear me out.
they can't catch up to over population NOW! You are as dumb as they get to fall for the lies they told you!
The world dies because 100,000 more people ask for home food cloths each day! use your dummy brain for a change to do math not follow liars that just used you and stole your donation money as they try to place themselves as Jesus of the Bible to replace the prophecy with a Satanic cult you worship as saviors when they want world war! "There will be blood before RBE"
@Peterwhitlock I'm sure you're wondering if there will be laws to govern people, but we believe that when people are properly educated on the subject of taking care of one another and knowing more about the world around them, they don't need laws to govern them, 90+ percent of our prison populations are FILLED with men and women that were brought up in societies that were poor and ranked very low in their educational status. Knowledge is power
WOW you really are a dunce that does no research at all and just mindlessly follow anything you FEEL is right like this Hitler cult lies... GO do your fucking research before you tell me lies about prisons made up by them! Don't you shame lying for them like that and have to be exposed for them because you protect them from it by being the mouthpiece fool we have to rebuke for being uneducated in any of this!
@Peterwhitlock and knowledge is what gives us the ability to live more like good stewards of this earth and less like fringe psychos, so before you bash the movement or the Venus Project LEARN MORE ABOUT IT! from the mouths of the ones that are proposing this. don't just speculate from bias people who know nothing about the Zeitgeist Movement or the Venus Project themselves.
HEYYYYYY shit for brains!!!!!!! you go learn something about them and not from them for a change IDIOT!
I was there in 75 and all the way and you fucking ass of a brain just showed up knowing NOTHING!
You know so little that you are told to shut the fuck up and spend 2 month researching the evil if them not the lies of them like you just did as idiot!
@Peterwhitlock I'm pretty sure you're a Christian. If you are than consider Jesus' prayer "lord let thy will be done on EARTH as it is in heaven" I don't believe that there are any paid-off Politicians in heaven, no private banks, no seperate countries, no wars, no poverty, no social stratification, no hatred, no anguish, NONE OF THAT! So why would God himself be opposed to something like that? why would he be opposed to people coming together and showing love to one another?
AGAIN you uneducated monster! I CARRY THAT CHURCH NOT THEM THAT DON"T HAVE IT you dunce!
IT is the CHURCH OF JESUS not tvp or tzm atheist against Jesus shit you follow you SATANIST FREAK!
Since when are the non Christian alowed to use jesus as example of words for other than christian works? AQLL CIRCULAR CITIES EVER ARE OURS! monsters that copied and stand up to claim they are the ones are to BURN IN HISTORY because they stole from Jesus...THAT IS PROPHECY COMING TRUE NOW!
@Peterwhitlock also, let me explain to you what the term RBE (Recourse Based Economy) means, it means living life according to the current status of the earth's resources. for example, if you have an apple tree in your back yard, and it only has 10 apples left on it, but you need 20 to bake an apple pie, you can't have any pie can you? no, unless you use technology to make more, but in this case, find more. so you eating apple pie was based off of the RESOURCES of the apple tree
R.B.E. DOES NOT EXIST! That is a CATCH PHRASE ONLY YOU FOOL!
It is called NON MONETARY SYSTEM.... how come you are so uneducated and dare speak?
You make tree apple logic as bad as can be... go back to school you dummy you need to go back to about 5th grade and start over.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to share all he resources! IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO OVERPOPULATION you are not told is out of control to prove you are too dumb to think for yourself!
@Peterwhitlock now let me explain why money will no longer be needed in a Resource based economy, let's say for example you're stranded on a deserted Island with 4.5 billion dollars in safes that you have with you, but there is no food any where, soon you make a stick to begin harpooning for fish, you finally catch one, immediately you'll begin burning the money for fire to cook the fish wont, so was the money what you really needed? or was it the RECOURSE (the fish) what you needed?
None Monetary system need a perfect template to work or DUMMY it not fail like it not fail ever before in depression 2 world wars... only IDIOTS LIKE YOU do not know that! You have no clue what you are saying! it is as dumb as can be!!!! Go back to school idiot and stop shaming yourself with super dummy false logic!
If I can catch fish and you can't what you give me for a fish IDIOT! MONEY REPRESENTS RESOURCES SO YOU NOT HAVE TO GO GET YOUR OWN!
Overpopulation is a myth created and pushed by the elite. References to overpopulation in history date back to Ancient Greeks where tyrant kings or the elite made statemenst about rivals cities or nations having too many people and that they prayed for war to thin them out. Also references in Greek myth where it reads, "too many people pushing down on mother earth", etc. Overpopulation is a lie by the elites who literally want to think the herd of the 'unwashed masses'.
Zeitgeist could very well be THE NWO. This isn't about a liberating movement people. This is about CONTROL! If the people that own 90% of the world saw this as a threat, they would have made it disappear long ago. They are the ones behind it. You will be controlled even more than now. Have no freedom of choice, and you will be enslaved to their society or else. Think about it.
@beebop46n2 "Think about it" you're absolutely right, you should think about it. in a sense it is a new word order because it would bring to world together as a whole. understand though that this is NOT a movement which dictates to people on how they should live, we have no armies, no navy, no military forces. in fact, we are OPPOSED to violence. we simply want a world in which all would live in peace, and SHARE the earth's resources, my advice would be to LEARN more about what TZM/TVP is about
it is even worse! they promote world war 3 to bring RBE and say it is the only way...police should raid them now for that as terrorist cell making group!
@undeadpresident The Venus Project is an organization offering feasible plans for social change, one that could attain a peaceful a sustainable global civilization. we want the resources of this planet to be shared equally, Farly and freely to ALL human beings, plants, and animals. we believe that the construct of science and technology can and will further enhance and improve the quality of life and the sustainability of this planet. if you have concerns about the project please let me know
Zeitgeist is not out to attack religion. I am an Atheist myself, but I see many good messages in every religion. All religions teach you to be the best person you can be , to respect others and to take care of those that are in need ( as far as I know ).
I don't need a god to tell me what is right or wrong, and i believe EVERYONE deep down inside knows what is right and what is wrong. Which God said "Profit above all"? Which God said "Care for none but your own" - So why do we act as we do?
The problem with the movie is that. it iwas made by the illuminti. There the only ones with money they know that were to paralised to even try and stop them even with this obvious stuff up in our money system. we dont even try because we were all to scared.
@chevalier577 okay, so the illuminati is behind the video which exposses the fraud of government delusions?... with that mindset you might as well say that the illuminati are behind wikileaks as well, if the illuminati are the only ones with money, and this video was made by them then why is the maker of the video living in an old apartment? shouldn't he have a huge million dollar house? also, why would he be against money? if he's a part of an organization which owns all of it?
HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
Zeitgeist never tells you to stop believing in god.. It tells you to stop believing in the projected ideas that have a harmful effects on how we, as a whole, life our lives on earth. What it does is challenge us to step outside our limited perceptions and embrace the possibility of more. Do I believe in the TRUTH of what Jesus thought? SURE. Its tells us to love one another. Do I believe the entire jargon of what the church tries to hang on to his teachings? NO. My intelligence forbids it.
Unlimited energy sources are out there!But a few ppl make too many billions from our energy needs to let this technology be known,Go to LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints for a genuine magnet motor ,Big change is comming soon!
It made me feel sick too (I'm a christian you see, and Zeitgeist made me doubt). I feel a lot better having read what the experts have to say. And now I'm wondering, what are the motives of the creators? They claim christians are blind yet they expect us to take everything they say as fact. If you are not a believer, that's ok (kind of). Just don't base your belief (or lack there of) on Zeitgeist.
@monster762hi, im a Christian - what & why did it make you doubt ?
nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ our Lord - not even your doubt - i watched the zeitgeist vid some time ago & just thought it was pathetic .
i had already came across all that info from much more in-depth study - and what they try to present is just pathetic . . the best way to tell a forgery is to study the true original - STUDY CHRIST. get to know Him better every day - not just about Him. God bless
Good way to state you OPINION (which can be wrong) to counter FACTS (which are accurate and proven and can't be wrong... otherwise they wouldn't be called facts). Calling something pathetic when you don't know the definition of pathetic is like calling Christianity Noble when you don't understand the concept of a "Noble Lie" ...look it up with your other "in-depth studies" ;)
@monster762 Hey man you remeber what jesus said hey at the end they shall try and lead his people astray. the more this stuff happenes the more your should believe, his profacies are coming true
@niddasa I agree. That was quite a debate,lol. The last thing I want to do is insult anyone. But, you know how these topics can get heated. So, don't take it personal. We, as well as other people, can agree to disagree on these topics. However, if we keep ourselves in the know, and think outside the box, we will be better people because of it.
YOU wrote>>>>>"what B.S am i spewing? what stories are you talking about?"..... " And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon." so , you see, these people, are all the same, they just have different names in differen tongues. This is B.S. writen by man, nothing more.
@niddasa >>>>>"what B.S am i spewing? what stories are you talking about?"..... " And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon." so , you see, these people, are all the same, they just have different names in differen tongues.
and then she killed herself... des ende..
zekopath222 1 month ago
search Zeitgeist debunked on youtube.
HairLikeCottonCandy 1 month ago
Ya know ZG is BS right?
iwanttocrashmybike 2 months ago 3
I don't agree with 100% of what is in the ZG movies but I do agree with about 97% of it. :)
Jeffersonwazright 6 months ago
I know this is OLD, but i just wanted to say no one can prove OR disprove the existence of God, or indeed a creator.
Religion however, you can say scientifically that it is ALL bullshit.
Also, did you notice the Marxist tone in zietgiest?
Here's a tip for you, and i guess everyone else to, "Its better to have prayed and found out there was no god, than to have never prayed and found out there was a god".
One more thiong RON PAUL 2012 !!!
clitmint 7 months ago
@clitmint Yes, I noticed a Karl Marx and Jesus Christ tone in the movies.
Jeffersonwazright 6 months ago
Zeitgeist isn't proven fact but concepts largely based from the Theosophical Society, if you look into the general references on Zeitgeist and concepts you would find these concepts come from past influential members from the Theosophical Society. I am not a critic of one concepts being Zeitgeist or the other concept around Yahshua. Take time do your own study come to your own conclusion instead of being easily indoctrinated by any concept that is not historical base or morally wrong.
Kolaiah99 8 months ago
she was joking about the bill !
I really appreciate what she did,!Great job girl,keep yelling about Zeitgeist!
redlightfay 8 months ago
venusproject or live in a decaying society
TheMidwestsk8ter 9 months ago
@TheMidwestsk8ter Venus Project is just ONE approach of a solution which MIGHT be the best which is not even finished. I would say there are tons of options but no one thinks about something on their own. They prefer to follow like sheep.
GenDaiLEO 9 months ago
@GenDaiLEO "follow like sheep" Dont you mean evaluate understand and agree with? And wouldnt that mean you follow the monetary system like sheep?
TheMidwestsk8ter 9 months ago
@TheMidwestsk8ter No if you would just agree you wouldn't block all other ideas and act like some extremist Christian. It's not about Money vs. RBE there are tons of different views and ideas but some Zeitgeist people act if they have the only solution. But well that solution isn't even 100% thought through. e.g. no one knows how to change into a system like that...you can run around & create a revolution but without any idea what will happen after that...what's the point? it will stay the same
GenDaiLEO 9 months ago
@GenDaiLEO You make assumptions out of nothing. I dont block ideas i just havent found any that make sense. Please share some ideas with me?
TheMidwestsk8ter 9 months ago
yes I'm talking about people I wrote with until now...hm maybe just some Zeitgeist criticism: My basic critique against some Zeitgeist interpretations is that EVERYTHING is controlled by machines & PCs just saying so that we can do this & that. With this thought and the claim Zeitgeist doesn't have anything to do with politics we would hand over our power to something we created ourselves (or to some people which might control it) so I think politics would still be necessary just a better sytsem
GenDaiLEO 9 months ago
@GenDaiLEO Thats very interesting but what type of govnverment? Because in a monetary system it will most likely go corrupt
TheMidwestsk8ter 8 months ago
Well it's just a big problem that our politicians are too stupid to change something - at least in Germany - since our system lets us vote a little deeper than in the USA...what I think is that we need to organize the whole democracy to a DIRECT democracy (therefore a real one) where every person can help decide. Yes we got the technology: Internet! Now we just need the software & of course education so that people are able to be constructive & non extremist. (but still have own opinions)
GenDaiLEO 8 months ago
@TheMidwestsk8ter But that's not everything. Lots of folks seem to recognize that there are certain families active in politics all the time. But that's natural - "Daddy did it so what else should I do?" Problem with that is that they don't have the passion as there grandfathers had...at least I think that...so no wonder that their ideas and mentality sucks. Still if you are honest...who else would do those jobs in our current society? xD
GenDaiLEO 8 months ago
@GenDaiLEO Scientific approach to gonvernment is the most logical step. All our problems are tecnical.
TheMidwestsk8ter 8 months ago 7
The truth shall set you free, they said...not set your stomach free, haha. (thow up yet? lol) It's fearmongering out of context BC designed to brainwash--nothing new under the sun.
BrokenAeroVT 9 months ago
Therapy? let me give an example, no one is paying for his therapy, counterfeit money is produced by the government that could easily incriminate anyone. I picked this up from an old comment that I'd regret I can not tell the rest.
Play671 9 months ago
I fucked a zeitgeist one time. gave me the CLAP!!
DONT TAKE SHIT FROM THE ZEITGEIST OR YOU GET AIDS NIGGA!! AIDS OF THE MOUTH! SCLEROSIS OF THE EYE!!!
mackawack12346 9 months ago
zeitgeist first section on Jesus not being real is all lies , the other stuff is more believable though.
primetimebuckeye 9 months ago
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@primetimebuckeye it's all lies ... iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiiiiiiiiiiiiot.
HelpfulLawrence 9 months ago
@primetimebuckeye That seems mighty convenient. I believe in Jesus, so they are all lying! The other stuff is right though..... Niiice. Moron.
liljc17c 9 months ago
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How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
If men inspired by god wrote the bible, how did they get the names wrong of Jesus, Jahova, Joshua, Jacob and others.
WOW
34eeelive 10 months ago
Sick to youre stomach??
Why ??
anuskransje 10 months ago
Did you puke, like when Neo exited The Matrix? :p
MeldMagic 10 months ago
It seems that the some Arabs have saw all three movies and ware smart enough to free them self in their countries from their dictators…
stamstuff 11 months ago
Right now is the most exciting time to be alive... but it always is. anyone think we're in for an odd future?
GREENSBEATS 10 months ago
@GREENSBEATS i see 2 options. the first, world war 3. the second is the obliteration of goverments and people in power in the western worlds as the arabs did, and for a better out come from that, theres must be unity between people all over the world. as for making the "Venus project" work, patience, acceptance and listening has to be part of the basic essence. either way, it seems that hard times coming ahead for everyone.
stamstuff 10 months ago
@stamstuff they still have to rid themselves of that ridiculous religion thing
brdatwork 10 months ago
@brdatwork yep! you might want to look for 'Three things you (probably) don't know about islam'.
stamstuff 10 months ago
Ya I was sick to my stomach after I watched the zeitgeist movie to. Because I realized how fucked up our world is today, and how pathetic our system is. If you had a intelligent part of your brain, this all makes perfect logical and factual sense.
industries182 11 months ago
I love You!!
111Dennism 11 months ago
Dear Heidi: I don't get the point? What are you sick of? NWO or your eyes were wide open, so you took the red pill, hehehehe. Welcome to the real world. Hear some music, drink a scotch and make love with your boyfriend, tomorrow is gonna be a great day.....
xarloba 11 months ago
Idiot.....
ToriRaeLolita 11 months ago
What the...? Was she criticising zeitgeist or for it? Yes, all the zeitgeist movies made me feel sad but they also made me feel hopeful and made me feel like my life has a purpose now, a relevance. Everything else - owning property, constructing an ego-led image of myself that is totally fake, having to be brutal and competitive instead of cooperative makes me feel sick as I wasn't made that way and I resent being forced to be that way in order to 'survive'. Luckily survival doesn't cost much.
sheveka 11 months ago
@sheveka
you are a classic VICTIM! FALSE HOPE BASED IN LIES! 100,000 extra humans a day make them all liar that can solve basic math or the word city/OVERPOPULATION and how IMPOSSIBLE RBE is aside of it being just a catch phaze and has no science or logic to it... R= YOU the resource or nothing moves. B =YOU as you have to do the work! E= you because it is all of you...you work for money is what RBE means... or let be POOR as we give all we have to the poor and be like them! TVP AND TZM =W.WAR
Peterwhitlock 11 months ago
@Peterwhitlock
Read, watch, think and then talk like that because it sounds like you're not at all knowledgeable about the zeitgeist movement or about economics in general. Good luck.
sheveka 11 months ago
" It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
- Henry Ford
MrIzzyDizzy 11 months ago
conspiracysciencedotcom/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/
educate yourself. visit the site, substitute dot for a . zeitgeist is poorly researched, and contains innumerable false claims. At first glance, zeitgeist (which means spirit of the age) is a great film but the errors are overwhelming. Always research.
heavensclown 1 year ago
I've investigated The Venus Project for about 2.5 years now and I've found no flaws. At least not yet. The biggest misconceptions that are out there are:
1)There's no room for individuality or religion. These are encouraged because they're healthy and productive.
2)Its Communism. This has nothing to do with any monetary-system.
3)Devil Worship. LOL. Really?
4)It will never happen. Not with that attitude.
All "flaws" seem to be projected. just Investigate it please.
Let me know if u find flaws.
OnePieceWonPeace 1 year ago
ME ME ME, and MY therapy bill.
ME ME ME and MY institutionalized identity.
It's almost too easy to decode the spoiled attitudes of orthodoxy.
MattSyTy 1 year ago
@MattSyTy Yes, she and her extremely short video based on what you just mentioned. She's an idiot apparently seeking attention.
Mrdavid839 11 months ago
btw ... zeitgeist = an attempt to establish a master religion ... why else waste an entire hour of our lives lying about other religions ? ... ... zeitgeist can't genetically engineer a master race .. yet .. because it need you morons to believe in it before it can get that far.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
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@HelpfulLawrence I'm still learning and I hope I continue to do so. You've stopped learning by the sounds of things ! By no means have I made my mind up about anything I have read or heard but If you think calling me fuckwad ..lol will close my mind or stop me learning then you just carry on ranting !
itchcitizen2 1 year ago
@HelpfulLawrence : master ass may be!
swiftspy 1 year ago
@HelpfulLawrence that call paranoia...they just try to build a better future for everybody whit a different way to think..to be inform..to not being slave of this economic system...i think you didnt see the same movie as me..or maybe you were on drug...theres always a question of balance dude...i thinks Zeitgeist is 80% right and very smart....id like to heard your concept of our future world
tubethatshitout 1 year ago
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Zietgiest is to those seeking truth, as fly paper is to flies seeking sugar.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
Zeitgeist lied to us in the first video [watch?v=JuyIxKrw2Yk] .. now you morons that are commenting on here want to believe shit ??? doenst matter if u believe in jesus or not ... these fuckheads made shit up , and that is not a lie. ......fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me ...
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
mmm nice gringa gatita
ProviderMR 1 year ago
The only way we can have utopia is if we genetically modify peoples DNA to be docile and sheepish (too late?). Otherwise, you will always have spoiled shit-eating brats who take over daddy's business or superpower. They are talking hype, not reality. We have people who made better designs than the Venus project and every single one has been banned from being tested. Why? This is for the elite and VERY RICH, not even president rich, trust me, this is a plot to euthanize people.
TheLaunchingPad 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is a cult. Plain and simple.
The first of the series said that Ra and Jesus are the same. Thats fucking insanity.
If you believe that Ra and Jesus are the same then you are an idiot.
Afterm4th 1 year ago
@Afterm4th but believing that a jew came resurected from the dead oh! thats normal to say so
bloodcorer 1 year ago
We are never going to live in a perfect world with no crime, no poverty..etc..BUT we can work towards a brighter future! Overthrow the government! The way the United States is run this days is appalling. the way is see it, the zeitgeist is painting this perfect utopia (remember Hitler?) & we should believe it is possible? but in reality it is only distracting us from the true state of the world. The principal idea behind the monetary system is not a bad thing, but the current system must change.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago 3
Never heard anyone from that organisation say Zeitgeist is a Utopia..ever ! also (Utopia and Hitler ?) When Jacque Fresco talks about thinking outside the box I think he means this isn't something we can reference from past history,this idea is crazy because it's possible yet it seems totally impossible in practise. To govern ourselves without the incentive of money is not impossible if we have no need for money that is also Modern banking in principal is total overkill, literally...ha
itchcitizen2 1 year ago
@itchcitizen2 when Fresco said we should think outside the box, he was referring to population control by men only ass-fucking each-other.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
@itchcitizen2 maybe they didnt use the word 'utopia' .. they just promised a world with no crime, no poverty, and you can everything you ever wanted for free.. .. OOPS MY BAD. ...
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
@itchcitizen2 Also, you have proven yourself to be an uneducated fuckwad (Hitler and Utopia?) .. He wanted to genetically engineer a master race and socioeconomically establish and entrench a master religion, .... and exterminate all others. Eliminating the Jews was the key to Hitler's utopia. There is an entire book about it .. "The Roots of Nazi Psychology: Hitler's Utopian Barbarism" ... go back to school, or just keepin' suckling Fresco's jew-knob.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
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itchcitizen2 1 year ago
@HelpfulLawrence Troll
MrAudacia 10 months ago
@MrAudacia FAggot.
HelpfulLawrence 10 months ago
@HelpfulLawrence whats that mean???
MrAudacia 10 months ago
@MrAudacia it means you are akin to a bundle of sticks .... a bundle of sitcks that fuck eachother in their stickholes
HelpfulLawrence 10 months ago
@HelpfulLawrence that really doesn't make much sense. why exactly do you care what other people think anyway?
MrAudacia 10 months ago
@MrAudacia shut-up, stick-sucker.
HelpfulLawrence 9 months ago
@HelpfulLawrence you have no type of imagination. who said its impossible? scarcity and money are main things holding us back. create abundance of food, energy, and technology than anything is possible.
brdatwork 10 months ago
@brdatwork I said it was impossible.
HelpfulLawrence 10 months ago
@HelpfulLawrence Be the change you want the world to be. If you and everone else don't believe the world can be something like a utopia thyen it never will be.
yeepbauwan 10 months ago
@yeepbauwan That's right bitch.
HelpfulLawrence 10 months ago
Maybe the change we should fight for is not the ridiculousness suggested by the Zeitgeist, which would effectively enslave us to whoever controls "resources".. but a radical change in government. Instead of spending billions of dollars to fight 'terrorists' and the drug war, why can't that money be spent on hydroponic vegetable gardens (that can be put anywhere, even a fucking desert) and safe and well managed low income housing? Or should we keep dreaming about living in a perfect utopia?
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
@tomrichardson83 The video does raise some good questions .. but I believe that the answers they offer are deceptive. I do agree the world is fucked.... you have some people who have more money than they could possibly ever spend, own multiple homes, expensive cars, and eat only the finest food (and probably throw half it away) while so many are starving... something should be done. But does the Zeitgeist video really offer reasonable solutions ? I think not.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is disgusting. I came here expecting this girl to praise it, instead I was relieved that not everyone is a mindless tool. Bravo.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
Your cute but not very bright!
ProvokedArtists 1 year ago
@ProvokedArtists Dude, you're a fucking idiot.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
What if the computer running things says one day: There are too many people about one billion must be terminated.
What then ? Would you balance the equation ? Would you pull the trigger ?
tarfin 1 year ago
think about it this way...do you think humans can actually co-exist peacefully with one another? violence and corruption will always be in place no matter what the "setting". the venus project or zeitgeist or whatever you want to call it is just another idea of what could happen. its practical but long before i live to see it.
lockypocky 1 year ago
@lockypocky So because you won't live to see it and it won't benefit you directly, you have no interest in working towards it? Selfish Prick! In case you haven't noticed, about 95% of the planet coexists in peace today. It is the governments, transnational corporations and banks that pit us against each other to acquire profit and ensure they maintain their way of life. Removing the monetary-market system would actually collapse their power centers enabling the rest of us to take back our planet
GimmeTheReason 1 year ago
@GimmeTheReason youre the prick for assuming that i have no interest in the venus project. i am very interested and fascinated. will i work towards this "idea"? maybe i will maybe i wont. seems like just bc i dont take action or i dont view this new world civilization the way you do, im a selfish prick. i know my facts...you know yours. dont be a condescending douchebag.
lockypocky 1 year ago
An unbiased, intellectual review of the film is available at YT channel stefbot.
SimianAxiom 1 year ago
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christheferal 1 year ago
I watched it ... At first I was very impressed and very much on side with it. But I then do what I always do and look for a devils advocates point of view. I'm not sure what to think atm. I'll keep digging until all my questions have been answered. Looks like that won't be for some time.
SimianAxiom 1 year ago
I beet only thing you liked in this movie was that $3000 designer purse
2312marino 1 year ago
Wow, You need a teraphy bill for for your stomach. What about 925 million people who are hungry and dying but from real stomach problems?
FinalFantasyTB303 1 year ago 20
@FinalFantasyTB303 she never said she needed a THERAPY bill for her stomach , she was just expressing how the movie assaulted her senses both physically and mentally. Go back to your brainwash, fucking sheep.
HelpfulLawrence 1 year ago
@FinalFantasyTB303
how about them 3 billion living on RICE AND BEANS for LIFE! How about the 100,000 Humans added a DAY to the planet making RBE full premeditated criminal lies to steal donations. Why build a city for billions in donations when cyberspace can do it for near free? Why hate Jesus and try to build his Church city for if not to steal his glory? Why did JF put in a book that HE THINKS robots will KILL humans and take over and keep only a few breeding stock Humans? DID You know??
Peterwhitlock 11 months ago
@Peterwhitlock cyberspace, did I missed something? I could talk with you for hours here about where civilization gone wrong, nationalism, religions, wars, nature, reducing of population, bankers association and it would be pointless. I can't change someone's mind if he can't think open minded, reset his brain and erase all false beliefs he inherited and developed. Most of people don't search for answers, they just follow masses in same direction and that's why self destrucion is inevitable.
FinalFantasyTB303 11 months ago
@FinalFantasyTB303
RBE was PROVEN 100% to fail all te4st put to it!
how come you did not see it was LIES?
Roxanne meadows was accused of DONATION stealing as in 419 fraud and we even predicted she would claim CGI cosat lots to ask for more donation on march 12th 2011 and guess what? SHE DID! 100% exactly what we said she had to do to steal more doantions!
with RBE a complete fail and her asking donation when katrina Haiti and Japan just proved also on top how low life desgusting person she is.
Peterwhitlock 11 months ago
The Zeitgeist Movement is NWO. There are many interpretations of the NWO, far right and far left for example, and the Zeitgeist Movement is the far left interpretation.
So, for those of you who mistakenly believed that Zeitgeist was anti-NWO, you were decieved and tricked by the first film. The 2nd and 3rd film are blatant in their support for The New World Order, which in the Zeitgeist Movement is Scientific Communism.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr Can i ask this? If you do not support the "NWO", what would you support as something to help humanity, or do you rather we continue the way we are and live miserably on this planet. Dont get me wrong I don not endorse eliminating Billions to "start afresh" a new system but if we complain, have a solution...
Trinitus231 1 year ago
@Trinitus231
Good question. So by your logic, because our current system is flawed we should just scrap it and embrace the Scientific Communism and have robots rule over us as TZM wants, right? So therefore don't bother trying to fix the system and get rid of the corruption, just surrender to tyranny and let the robots rule, right? TZM wants the current system to fail but what they don't tell you is that if the current system fails we get MARTIAL LAW, not the Venus Project.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr You are spot on. I got banned from the new official zeitgeist video for speaking a similar truth. You should take your message there and wake those people up.
Israylite4EVER 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr Get your facts straight! Machines will not rule. They monitor and manage planetary resources, are used to upgrade manufacturing and distribution of goods, and computers are used to store and retrieve all scientific knowledge acquired to date so that we do not continue to rape and abuse the earth. It isn't communism. No money, no labour and communism never took into account using technology to its highest potential. Martial law wouldn't last long against so many people. Look at Egypt.
GimmeTheReason 1 year ago
@GimmeTheReason
I love the zombies who believe that just because they say it's not communism somehow makes it true. The world has seen a resource-based economy. It was called the Soviet Union. There will be money. That's where you zombies stumble over and over again. It will be a cashless society but there will still be money. I've seen the propaganda films of the "sustainable cities" of the future. The elites still rule over the "unwashed masses". (cont.)
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@GimmeTheReason
(continued) There's no paper money, but in the videos they call it "calorie credits". Common people must work at a jobe dictated to them, cannot own private property, and do not have access to private transportation. The elite meanwhile have access to all of these. You do realize you will never get everything you want, only part of what you want. You do realize Egypt has not seen the horrors of Martial Law quite yet. It's getting there, but not quite yet.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
ill take action on you.
blabberblabs1 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Please learn English. Overpopulation is a myth.
1984rfrost 1 year ago
Even if I think the documentary(ies) make some good points end expose a little bit of 'truth' I think it's in great part just pure bullcrap...
Anyways; Search for TROM; it continues on Zeitgeist I think; Don't know didn't check it yet...
P.S. And why the drama? I mean it's not that you heard anything new in the Zeitgeist... You just got a confirmation and details on something you probably already knew is going on out there behind the curtains...
Orthodoxcrusader 1 year ago
there's a new movie coming out, it's called "Zeitgeist: moving forward" it'll be out in a few days :D
javonne 1 year ago
zeitgeist is a ton of shit. ill give you a link that disproves 99% of it.
darkdudironaji 1 year ago
@darkdudironaji that's pure bullshit, tell me what exactly is this 99% OTHER than some bs religious statement
javonne 1 year ago
The Zeitgeist Movement is not about controlling and enslaving anyone, if you truly dearly think that, please enlighten me as to how it is. Maybe you should research it, and see what it's actually about instead of just dismissing it as fake and gay or impossible just because we advocate a system that has been ingrained into your head from birth.
grubstrah456 1 year ago
hey!
TZM was asking millions to build Z land... wel it cost only a few buck in cyber space!
TVP was asking donations for 35 years and did not do a dam thing but ask for more
be aware they are crooks and don't let the sea of lies take you in woman! do not be fooled! it is all shock and lies and give us cash to fix things but when ask how they say sprwad the word... well that did not work and people are upset they asked for money for fake projets now all exposed and in the air about to fail.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock what the heck are you talking about ?
Kasseenzettel 1 year ago
@Kasseenzettel
if you do not know TVp is a scam or that TZM is a scam...beware! they are! They tell you so many lies you fall for the ones you pick out of the pile!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock what about the Venus project is a scam? and what "lies" have you supposedly discovered?
javonne 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock and where is your proof of this claim? I am a part of the zeitgeist movement, and I've never paid a dime, if you're talking about gaining financial support by selling T-SHIRTS then WOW! That's so horrible. if you're going to bash this project then I encourage you to ACTUALLY know what the hell your talking about
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
T shirts?
You IDIOT they want you to build Z LAND that one single person would own... a whole city owned by 1 human...Roxanne Meadows! it is as Satanic and criminal fraud 419 as you can get!
no need of any of it!
YOU ARE A VICTIM! you were asked to SPREAD THE WORD like it was the word of the Bible stolen to make RBE that is a catch phrase to fool VICTIMS from NON MONETARY planet the Bible promise is about! No merchants or politics seals as equals in the church of Jesus template cities!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock If you cannot see why the bible would "predict" not being controlled by money was a bad thing then I feel sorry for you. The same type of people have controlled us for thousands of years, I'm not saying one group like Illuminati or whatever, just people with a common interest, control and profit.
They control the politicians, they promote dogma to live by, and the enslave with debt. Of course the bible was written to suggest that the monetary system is necessary.
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
You are and IDIOT too lazy to even click my name and see i teach the opposite! i teach the Churchg template from 2000 years ago is here and beats all the lies of others and does more! Not less like you think as fool!
I say it belongs to Jesus not TVP! that steal it! and claim a catch phrase you are too dumb to know does not exist but as a catch phrase! NON MONETARY PLANET comes from the Church not TVP!
You support a 419 fraud scam watch my clips FOOL! we are better them!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Also this "Z Land" you're referring to is completely fictional, and is probably your poor attempt to understand it's fundamental concept.
Resource based economy is basically a society that focuses on education, and technology. All of the worlds recources would be equally distributed and a universal goal of renewable energy and housing, clothing and overall major difference in quality of life. Everyone would own everything equally.
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
IDIOT
Z land is a donation project of TZM to build the experimental city that TVP stole from EPCOT and the THEIST of the planet to play SATANIST and claim they came up with it when none of it belongs to them...watch my clips and learn you are on the wrong side! We have the cure and answers and they don't ! W e do not mix! We have it and you can't use it less you are with us TVP and TZM can't use the church of Jesus EVER They are not Theist or have any work done in the project!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Certain problems would be solved by a team of the highest qualified professionals who have only the goal to fix the issue, not profit from it, unlike today.
They have never claimed anyone would control it, it's fundamentally against their whole proposal. Jaque Fresco the main engineer of the project is over 90 years old, his intentions are not for power, as he will never see it take effect.
It's not perfect, but it's better than where we are heading now...
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
Last time we had that YOU IDIOT we had to KILL THEM IN WORLD WAR II
YOu are telling me how HITLER and HIS SS worked! YOU are so IGNORANT and know so little of reality and history!
YOU are on the WRONG SIDE! We have it they lie saying you have to help them find it! DA!!!!!!!
wake the f$#$# up!
they offer you smoke and mirrors and we offer your FREE all you need to save the future as GIFT from Jesus to all BUT TVP AND TZM seen as thieves and liar's effort to replace prophecy.
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock You have no idea about the Venus Project, do you? Nor do you know anything about Hitler's regime in WW2. Adolf Hitler was a man who wanted to wipe out any people different to him.
The core sentiment of the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist movement is to unite Humanity, and in fact remove all military and fascist troops controlled by arms of the government. It's about getting us back on track to a peaceful life for everyone in a sustainable world.
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
hey dummy not using the brain "A chicken in every pot and a Volkswagen in every driveway" and we are the good people.... I assume you are too young to know all such evil people start out like TVP saying lies to get fools sucked in before they do the insane thing...TVP is kindly asking you to help start the 3rd world war so you can be rewarded with RBE. Oh we have nothing to do with it (but mention it all the time kind of evil)
emotion will get you nothing! LEARN FACTS!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
and IDIOT
Zeitgeist and TVP have a SATANIC agenda top hate scripture but steal the prophecy and claim they are the ones that bring it when they don't even have the city to end Money and make people equals! You are too dumb to know evil from good or liars from truth... they stole all from EPCOT to scam donations and land AND they claim all the good stuff from the Bible as if they came up with it... you are not only dumb but a traitor dumb like Hitler's Minions fell for his lies!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Also if you want to make a reasoned argument why don't you try ACTUALLY looking up what you're talking about. All of your argument was utter speculation.
Try to insult me less also, why would I listen to someone who can't string a few sentences together without seemingly losing control?
Seriously, look it up. The Venus Project can not "benefit" from their proposal, it's a society based on REAL equality. Not too be confused with previous corrupt communism...
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
WTF kind of liar are you to dare claim such lies to my face! TVP mad money and land from day 1 and wants to OWN 100% all constructions since day 1!
You are a filthy liar! TVP makes 128,000 in profits a year and is listed on the stock market as a for profit advertising agency!
you are a stupid victim too dumb to look up anything!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock I just watched the video you posted as a reply...
Now I understand why you fail to understand the Venus Project. Please read my comments, then do some real research, i.e go to their site and read what they actually say, not what you've heard from some christian "debunker".
TheNotoriousTOM 1 year ago
@TheNotoriousTOM
WOW you are 10 times more stupid than I thought!
you run from one stupid conclusion to the next... NO MORON! they are what we say they are because we have proof only over 2000 years old! you imbecile! How dare you try to reduce the religions of the world to one claim when we all know they stole our prophecy and promise from the bible and claim YOU have to serve them just like the prophecy say EVIL WOULD DO! and LOOK Hitler like teachings in a sea of lies!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock first of all, lets not call each other names. I'm sure we both graduated from elementary school yes? second, Z LAND? the Venus Project is an attempt at uniting all people together, whether you're a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever. the Venus Project is NOT a Satanic or criminal fraud. we understand and address the problems and needs that we have today. what are our needs? clean water, food, clothing, and shelter, and with the Venus Project we can provide that for EVERYONE freely
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
STOP F$#%^^& LYING!
Z land is a con job to steal donation in rder to buy themselves land just like they did in 1975 and stole all the money from members and land and work and buildings to make a love nest for Roxanne Meadows. It is called 419 fraud and you are a dumb victim too dumb to do anything but repeat the lies they say. The hate kids and religions you fool! They teach you how they treat kid! pass them round like pups! never women and children first skill first like the SS used!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock we want to utilize technology to create an Abunance for all, we can end world hunger, we can end poverty, we can provide a better way of living for the entire world, including plants and animals... now who owns and runs the Venus Project you ask?... No one. let me make it clear, NO ONE! we all own it, I know that may sound quite weird but hear me out.
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
SUPER IDIOT!
they can't catch up to over population NOW! You are as dumb as they get to fall for the lies they told you!
The world dies because 100,000 more people ask for home food cloths each day! use your dummy brain for a change to do math not follow liars that just used you and stole your donation money as they try to place themselves as Jesus of the Bible to replace the prophecy with a Satanic cult you worship as saviors when they want world war! "There will be blood before RBE"
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock I'm sure you're wondering if there will be laws to govern people, but we believe that when people are properly educated on the subject of taking care of one another and knowing more about the world around them, they don't need laws to govern them, 90+ percent of our prison populations are FILLED with men and women that were brought up in societies that were poor and ranked very low in their educational status. Knowledge is power
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
WOW you really are a dunce that does no research at all and just mindlessly follow anything you FEEL is right like this Hitler cult lies... GO do your fucking research before you tell me lies about prisons made up by them! Don't you shame lying for them like that and have to be exposed for them because you protect them from it by being the mouthpiece fool we have to rebuke for being uneducated in any of this!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock and knowledge is what gives us the ability to live more like good stewards of this earth and less like fringe psychos, so before you bash the movement or the Venus Project LEARN MORE ABOUT IT! from the mouths of the ones that are proposing this. don't just speculate from bias people who know nothing about the Zeitgeist Movement or the Venus Project themselves.
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
HEYYYYYY shit for brains!!!!!!! you go learn something about them and not from them for a change IDIOT!
I was there in 75 and all the way and you fucking ass of a brain just showed up knowing NOTHING!
You know so little that you are told to shut the fuck up and spend 2 month researching the evil if them not the lies of them like you just did as idiot!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock I'm pretty sure you're a Christian. If you are than consider Jesus' prayer "lord let thy will be done on EARTH as it is in heaven" I don't believe that there are any paid-off Politicians in heaven, no private banks, no seperate countries, no wars, no poverty, no social stratification, no hatred, no anguish, NONE OF THAT! So why would God himself be opposed to something like that? why would he be opposed to people coming together and showing love to one another?
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
AGAIN you uneducated monster! I CARRY THAT CHURCH NOT THEM THAT DON"T HAVE IT you dunce!
IT is the CHURCH OF JESUS not tvp or tzm atheist against Jesus shit you follow you SATANIST FREAK!
Since when are the non Christian alowed to use jesus as example of words for other than christian works? AQLL CIRCULAR CITIES EVER ARE OURS! monsters that copied and stand up to claim they are the ones are to BURN IN HISTORY because they stole from Jesus...THAT IS PROPHECY COMING TRUE NOW!
IDIOT
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock also, let me explain to you what the term RBE (Recourse Based Economy) means, it means living life according to the current status of the earth's resources. for example, if you have an apple tree in your back yard, and it only has 10 apples left on it, but you need 20 to bake an apple pie, you can't have any pie can you? no, unless you use technology to make more, but in this case, find more. so you eating apple pie was based off of the RESOURCES of the apple tree
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
IDIOT!
R.B.E. DOES NOT EXIST! That is a CATCH PHRASE ONLY YOU FOOL!
It is called NON MONETARY SYSTEM.... how come you are so uneducated and dare speak?
You make tree apple logic as bad as can be... go back to school you dummy you need to go back to about 5th grade and start over.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to share all he resources! IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO OVERPOPULATION you are not told is out of control to prove you are too dumb to think for yourself!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock now let me explain why money will no longer be needed in a Resource based economy, let's say for example you're stranded on a deserted Island with 4.5 billion dollars in safes that you have with you, but there is no food any where, soon you make a stick to begin harpooning for fish, you finally catch one, immediately you'll begin burning the money for fire to cook the fish wont, so was the money what you really needed? or was it the RECOURSE (the fish) what you needed?
javonne 1 year ago
@javonne
None Monetary system need a perfect template to work or DUMMY it not fail like it not fail ever before in depression 2 world wars... only IDIOTS LIKE YOU do not know that! You have no clue what you are saying! it is as dumb as can be!!!! Go back to school idiot and stop shaming yourself with super dummy false logic!
If I can catch fish and you can't what you give me for a fish IDIOT! MONEY REPRESENTS RESOURCES SO YOU NOT HAVE TO GO GET YOUR OWN!
IDIOT!
OVERPOPULATION is the problem!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Learn to speak english. Overpopulation is a myth.
1984rfrost 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock Please learn English. Overpopulation is a myth.
1984rfrost 1 year ago
@Peterwhitlock
Overpopulation is a myth created and pushed by the elite. References to overpopulation in history date back to Ancient Greeks where tyrant kings or the elite made statemenst about rivals cities or nations having too many people and that they prayed for war to thin them out. Also references in Greek myth where it reads, "too many people pushing down on mother earth", etc. Overpopulation is a lie by the elites who literally want to think the herd of the 'unwashed masses'.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
Zeitgeist could very well be THE NWO. This isn't about a liberating movement people. This is about CONTROL! If the people that own 90% of the world saw this as a threat, they would have made it disappear long ago. They are the ones behind it. You will be controlled even more than now. Have no freedom of choice, and you will be enslaved to their society or else. Think about it.
beebop46n2 1 year ago
@beebop46n2 right. And, you have such things right now ofc.
Kasseenzettel 1 year ago
@beebop46n2
Are you only seeing this now?
You dint listen to us cause we were Christian, but now it's time to watch Zeitgeist Debunked!
This woman is OBVIOUSLY a shill and a Disinfo agent!!!
Amarx00 1 year ago
@beebop46n2 "Think about it" you're absolutely right, you should think about it. in a sense it is a new word order because it would bring to world together as a whole. understand though that this is NOT a movement which dictates to people on how they should live, we have no armies, no navy, no military forces. in fact, we are OPPOSED to violence. we simply want a world in which all would live in peace, and SHARE the earth's resources, my advice would be to LEARN more about what TZM/TVP is about
javonne 1 year ago
@beebop46n2
it is even worse! they promote world war 3 to bring RBE and say it is the only way...police should raid them now for that as terrorist cell making group!
Peterwhitlock 1 year ago
Cry baby
10mac10s 1 year ago
lol what a bimbo on therapy
eatcaca2012 1 year ago
Zeitgeist seems to have had an effect on a lot of people but it was never news to me. It's really suspect because of the Venus Project bullshit.
undeadpresident 1 year ago
@undeadpresident The Venus Project is an organization offering feasible plans for social change, one that could attain a peaceful a sustainable global civilization. we want the resources of this planet to be shared equally, Farly and freely to ALL human beings, plants, and animals. we believe that the construct of science and technology can and will further enhance and improve the quality of life and the sustainability of this planet. if you have concerns about the project please let me know
javonne 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is not out to attack religion. I am an Atheist myself, but I see many good messages in every religion. All religions teach you to be the best person you can be , to respect others and to take care of those that are in need ( as far as I know ).
I don't need a god to tell me what is right or wrong, and i believe EVERYONE deep down inside knows what is right and what is wrong. Which God said "Profit above all"? Which God said "Care for none but your own" - So why do we act as we do?
z3r0Projects 1 year ago
@z3r0Projects Religion makes you soft in the head.
gary7999 1 year ago
The problem with the movie is that. it iwas made by the illuminti. There the only ones with money they know that were to paralised to even try and stop them even with this obvious stuff up in our money system. we dont even try because we were all to scared.
chevalier577 1 year ago
@chevalier577 okay, so the illuminati is behind the video which exposses the fraud of government delusions?... with that mindset you might as well say that the illuminati are behind wikileaks as well, if the illuminati are the only ones with money, and this video was made by them then why is the maker of the video living in an old apartment? shouldn't he have a huge million dollar house? also, why would he be against money? if he's a part of an organization which owns all of it?
javonne 1 year ago
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HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
KelvongKlein 1 year ago
Good to see an eye opener its better than any acid!
Lopmile 1 year ago
Zeitgeist never tells you to stop believing in god.. It tells you to stop believing in the projected ideas that have a harmful effects on how we, as a whole, life our lives on earth. What it does is challenge us to step outside our limited perceptions and embrace the possibility of more. Do I believe in the TRUTH of what Jesus thought? SURE. Its tells us to love one another. Do I believe the entire jargon of what the church tries to hang on to his teachings? NO. My intelligence forbids it.
alacabamba 1 year ago
@alacabamba well said
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urgencyharviefcem 1 year ago
It made me feel sick too (I'm a christian you see, and Zeitgeist made me doubt). I feel a lot better having read what the experts have to say. And now I'm wondering, what are the motives of the creators? They claim christians are blind yet they expect us to take everything they say as fact. If you are not a believer, that's ok (kind of). Just don't base your belief (or lack there of) on Zeitgeist.
monster762 1 year ago
@monster762hi, im a Christian - what & why did it make you doubt ?
nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ our Lord - not even your doubt - i watched the zeitgeist vid some time ago & just thought it was pathetic .
i had already came across all that info from much more in-depth study - and what they try to present is just pathetic . . the best way to tell a forgery is to study the true original - STUDY CHRIST. get to know Him better every day - not just about Him. God bless
vizulfun 1 year ago
@vizulfun
Good way to state you OPINION (which can be wrong) to counter FACTS (which are accurate and proven and can't be wrong... otherwise they wouldn't be called facts). Calling something pathetic when you don't know the definition of pathetic is like calling Christianity Noble when you don't understand the concept of a "Noble Lie" ...look it up with your other "in-depth studies" ;)
Llavez 1 year ago
@monster762 Hey man you remeber what jesus said hey at the end they shall try and lead his people astray. the more this stuff happenes the more your should believe, his profacies are coming true
chevalier577 1 year ago
@niddasa I agree. That was quite a debate,lol. The last thing I want to do is insult anyone. But, you know how these topics can get heated. So, don't take it personal. We, as well as other people, can agree to disagree on these topics. However, if we keep ourselves in the know, and think outside the box, we will be better people because of it.
CbandMaster 1 year ago
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YOU wrote>>>>>"what B.S am i spewing? what stories are you talking about?"..... " And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon." so , you see, these people, are all the same, they just have different names in differen tongues. This is B.S. writen by man, nothing more.
CbandMaster 1 year ago
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@niddasa >>>>>"what B.S am i spewing? what stories are you talking about?"..... " And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon." so , you see, these people, are all the same, they just have different names in differen tongues.
CbandMaster 1 year ago