It is nice to see that you care for Atlakviða. I have seen the old Norwegian and it is quite easy for us the Icelanders to understand so I think it would also be easy for us to understand when is was spoken. I did understand some of what you did say. I know some people that live in Nord Norway and if they speak slowly we understand. It is the same for the Faroe Islanders, we understand them. Nice job / Flott hjá þér ;o)
@vefur Thank you for your comment. I am really from Croatia so I know what you're talking about because when I talk to people from Slovenia it is the same thing. Our languages are quite alike and if they don't talk to fast it is possible for me to understand them. I really like old Norwegian language. Not really sure if I sounded right talking it though but som people said that they could understand it, so am happy about that. Thank you again.
þetta er versti hreimur af forn norsku sem ég hef heirt... hljómar meira eins og íslenska með norskum hreim en ætti að vera meira eins og norska með íslenskum hreim.
It is an interesting question. Somehow these pictures were the first thing I thought of when I heard this poem for the first time and they got stuck in my head. The pictures have nothing to do with the language really, or the culture of the language. It's what you'd call artistic freedom. In this case these images represent something different from what they do in the movie. It's got less to do with LOTR and more to do with the way those little cogs work in my head.
you could say it has something to do with it, according to norse beliefs we live in midgard, in english middle-earth, and elves, dwarves and dragons are a big part of norse beliefs as well.
@MelodxKay, actually there are many elements of norse mythology in LOTR, starting with the very name Middle - Earth (Midgard) and also the fact that there are elves, dwarves, trolls, etc, which only became part of popular fantasy after they were mentioned in Lotr(i think). There is even mention of Yggdrasil (the world tree) if i'm not mistaken. So there you go, images of Lotr put to a norse song is not that weird
@xDGiulianoxD Tolkien was inspired by Nordic (and Celtic) folk tales and history when he wrote LOTR. The "elven language" he created borrows from the languages of that region. So it seems like quite a good fit to me. Anyway, I like the video, it's original.
@xDGiulianoxD well seeing as tolkien based LOTR largely off norse mythology i find it quite fitting. E.X. Midgard is norse for middle-earth, gandalf was based on Odin the Wanderer, the use of Ravens as spies. It's actually a very apt and fitting decision.
@xDGiulianoxD, sorry for repeating my post, wanted you to have it as well. actually there are many elements of norse mythology in LOTR, starting with the very name Middle - Earth (Midgard) and also the fact that there are elves, dwarves, trolls, etc, which only became part of popular fantasy after they were mentioned in Lotr(i think). There is even mention of Yggdrasil (the world tree) if i'm not mistaken. So there you go, images of Lotr put to a norse song is not that weird
@samaelmagnus Yes, I see. Well actually I don't know why I posted the first question anyways, as I am a great Tolkien fan... haha, I think I was out of my mind. Well thank you for your replies anyways! Peace.
The language was called norrœnt mál and dǫnsk tunga as well a language can have more then one name. What do you know about the sound system of Old Norse and it's diealects ? This prounonciation is not perfect but if you think Old Norse sounded like Icelandic then your pretty lost
Part 2 : Then somethings are debatable like if Icelandic ever hade the tonal musical accent of Swedish and Norewegian or if that was a later inovation. Icelandic is extremly archaiac and conservative but in pronaunciation Icelandic has changed as well to an extent being both conservative and inovating :)
Old Norse is a common language spoken in most of Scandinavia up to ca. 800. After that old western Norse(known as old Norse) was spoken in Norway and Iceland while old eastern Norse(you called it Dönsk tunga) was thereafter spoken in Denmark and Sweden.
Youw should trill your R's more while I am not an expert on Old Norse that is something I can say clearly also your prounounced some ð as D when it was like TH in THat and so on but overall it was an okey :) Try out since you never spoken Old Norse before :)
(Hope I did not say anything wrong if an expert would point out something :P )
Hey, I wouldn't know actually. I mean it was the first time I've tried to speak any such language and my knowledge is too limited on the matter to even be sure which accent I am using. I've heard this once and I gave it a try to recite it myself. I'm pretty sure that my pronunciation isn't very correct but I suppose it is better to try and fail than not try at all. Thank you for your comment. Take care. Melodx
Part 1: No I do not sound silly the Icelandic phonoligal system have changed in some cases more then for an eExample Norewegian and Swedish, for an example the loss voiced stops instead of contrasting voice and voiceless stop consonanats it contrast asperiated and non-asperiated also Icelandic have changed the vowel qualities a whole lot and even reduced the number of contrasting vowel sounds on the other hand also gaining new consonants and preserving some old sounds like the þ for an example
Ah Part 3 :P Also dialectal variations existed back in dǫnsk tunga area as well and still to this day some dialects of west Norway do share many similearites with Icelandic :)
I have Icelandic contrasts voiceless and asperiated stop consonants, Old Norse contrasted voice and voiceles.
There is also less contrastive vowels in Icelandic then in Old Norse also Icelandic as contrastive voiceless nasals something that from all we know did not exist in Old Norse.
Check out in wikipedia yourself at there English Old Norse and Icelandic pages
It's Old Norse, I don't speak that language, just the poem. But I do understand your confusion because my accent is horrible I know. I hope you liked the pictures though.
Hi, this is cinad a funny I am from Iceland and I hear some right words that I noge from Icelandic If you want you can send me the text and I can read it for you ;)
Thank you for your offer but I have heard how this text is pronounced correctly from a video I watched that was preformed by a man who spoke this language. The thing is it was very difficult for me to repeat everything the same way he said it because I have a very different language from this one and this is the first time in my life I've spoken Old Norse.I know it must sound funny to you.But I had to give it a try.If you come by my channel you might figure out why.
Sound okey.. You should hafe someone in Iceland read this for you. Icelandic is the best preserved old scandinavian language and has not changed much during the last 1000 years due to isolation.
Thank you very much for your honesty. I love languages that are well preserved and are spoken almost the same way as in the days of the old world. I think Icelandic is a very beautiful language.
Thank you very much for your compliment though I'm not sure if I make a good example. This was the first time in my life I've ever spoken old norse. Best of luck with your learning.
Oh, you used the bukkehorn song as background music,cool :) pronounciation sounds okay, some mistakes but it doesnt sound too wrong considering your not a scandinavian. I might do one aswell once i get myself a good cam.
Thank you very much. Your sencere comments really mean a lot. I appreciate them very much aspeccialy as this video is the first time I have ever spoken any such language in my life. Thank you so very very much.
My passion lies in forgotten things.I enjoy art in all of it's forms and I make myself part of it.Without art there is no Melodx, and without Melodx there is no me. I also love creating, writting, acting, dancing, reciting and drawing, pick any of those things and you will find my passion.
I know. What you say is true, but it is ancient and that is what draws me to it.
I'm quite difficult to understand, I hope I didn't confuse you. I can sometimes sound really strange to people. Forgive me if that was the case. If you are really interested, you can see some of my other videos. They might make things clearer than my words.
P.S. I hope you will have a lot of success with your learning.
Hey, thanks. Can you please tell me the mistakes so I can correct them. My language is very different from this one and any constructive criticism is most welcome.
It is nice to see that you care for Atlakviða. I have seen the old Norwegian and it is quite easy for us the Icelanders to understand so I think it would also be easy for us to understand when is was spoken. I did understand some of what you did say. I know some people that live in Nord Norway and if they speak slowly we understand. It is the same for the Faroe Islanders, we understand them. Nice job / Flott hjá þér ;o)
vefur 3 months ago
@vefur Thank you for your comment. I am really from Croatia so I know what you're talking about because when I talk to people from Slovenia it is the same thing. Our languages are quite alike and if they don't talk to fast it is possible for me to understand them. I really like old Norwegian language. Not really sure if I sounded right talking it though but som people said that they could understand it, so am happy about that. Thank you again.
MelodxKay 3 months ago
þetta er versti hreimur af forn norsku sem ég hef heirt... hljómar meira eins og íslenska með norskum hreim en ætti að vera meira eins og norska með íslenskum hreim.
3nonnar 11 months ago
Icelandic is probably a closer pronunciation. If you post the lyrics someone could give you a video response with an Icelandic accent.
aribjarna 1 year ago
agh, minnir mig á Orminn langa! Ég kunni Atlakviðu jafnvel utanað og Völuspá...(nice reading, I could understand every word aside from perhaps 2-3)!
seltjorn 1 year ago
Ah its so awesome to understand this :)
Im Icelandic so I understand most of it, I love it woho :D
saraarut 1 year ago
Pretty nice, Maybe I should do one in old Icelandic.
Candyluvre20 1 year ago
This is original watch?v=iJPVSX9_FXU
Ivonikuss 1 year ago
@malaiseguy mm nice.
xDGiulianoxD 1 year ago
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ShirayuriSky 1 year ago
Thank you for your comment. Very nice of you to correct me. I appreciate it.
MelodxKay 1 year ago
@ShirayuriSky i'm norwegian, and this is old norse, or "urnordisk", in my language..
Old norse was used from ca.200-700, before the vikings, that spoke "norrønt".
The written language was "Runer".
Here is a text in norwegian: Her er en tekst på norsk, mitt morsmål.
89Einar 1 year ago
@ShirayuriSky That's definitely not norwegian. Norwegian doesn't have the thorn and eth used in this reading.
BasciBaran 1 year ago
@BasciBaran the accent.
ShirayuriSky 1 year ago
@BasciBaran it is, there are several dialects of norewgian
Daermun 1 year ago
@Daermun It most definitely is not. It is Old Norse, but perhaps with a rather lacking pronouncation.
How do I know this? I am Norwegian, that's how.
rigstula 10 months ago
@ShirayuriSky
Never use this phrase but: LOL:D
ReitersOfTheStorm 1 year ago
@ShirayuriSky It's an Old norse poem.. which means it's Norwegian
pilotbutterfly 9 months ago
Stupid pictures
hit004541 2 years ago
Why to put LOTR images if you are speaking Old Norse?
xDGiulianoxD 2 years ago
It is an interesting question. Somehow these pictures were the first thing I thought of when I heard this poem for the first time and they got stuck in my head. The pictures have nothing to do with the language really, or the culture of the language. It's what you'd call artistic freedom. In this case these images represent something different from what they do in the movie. It's got less to do with LOTR and more to do with the way those little cogs work in my head.
MelodxKay 2 years ago
you could say it has something to do with it, according to norse beliefs we live in midgard, in english middle-earth, and elves, dwarves and dragons are a big part of norse beliefs as well.
Norsekjr 9 months ago
@MelodxKay, actually there are many elements of norse mythology in LOTR, starting with the very name Middle - Earth (Midgard) and also the fact that there are elves, dwarves, trolls, etc, which only became part of popular fantasy after they were mentioned in Lotr(i think). There is even mention of Yggdrasil (the world tree) if i'm not mistaken. So there you go, images of Lotr put to a norse song is not that weird
samaelmagnus 8 months ago
@xDGiulianoxD Tolkien was inspired by Nordic (and Celtic) folk tales and history when he wrote LOTR. The "elven language" he created borrows from the languages of that region. So it seems like quite a good fit to me. Anyway, I like the video, it's original.
VademNah 1 year ago
@VademNah Yes, actually the Sindarin ( the elven language ) was based on Old Icelandic.
xDGiulianoxD 1 year ago
@xDGiulianoxD well seeing as tolkien based LOTR largely off norse mythology i find it quite fitting. E.X. Midgard is norse for middle-earth, gandalf was based on Odin the Wanderer, the use of Ravens as spies. It's actually a very apt and fitting decision.
Daermun 1 year ago
@xDGiulianoxD, sorry for repeating my post, wanted you to have it as well. actually there are many elements of norse mythology in LOTR, starting with the very name Middle - Earth (Midgard) and also the fact that there are elves, dwarves, trolls, etc, which only became part of popular fantasy after they were mentioned in Lotr(i think). There is even mention of Yggdrasil (the world tree) if i'm not mistaken. So there you go, images of Lotr put to a norse song is not that weird
samaelmagnus 8 months ago
@samaelmagnus Yes, I see. Well actually I don't know why I posted the first question anyways, as I am a great Tolkien fan... haha, I think I was out of my mind. Well thank you for your replies anyways! Peace.
xDGiulianoxD 7 months ago
@samaelmagnus
Thank you for understanding. I would reply sooner but I didn't have internet connection for a few months up until now.
MelodxKay 5 months ago
I think the pronounciation isn't that bad. It would certainly have been understood by a contemporary speaker.
hxasmirl 2 years ago
Thank you very much. That is very nice to hear.
MelodxKay 2 years ago
I do understand some of it, though it sounds like norwegian or swedish to me, and I'm danish
Norsekjr 9 months ago
This doesnt sound like the old nordic language. It sounds more like swedish or norwegian.
Also there is no such language as Old Norse. It was called Dönsk Tunga.
Old Norse is a made up word by english historians who make alot of errors.
AdalDrottinn 2 years ago
The language was called norrœnt mál and dǫnsk tunga as well a language can have more then one name. What do you know about the sound system of Old Norse and it's diealects ? This prounonciation is not perfect but if you think Old Norse sounded like Icelandic then your pretty lost
Eopyk 2 years ago
Part 2 : Then somethings are debatable like if Icelandic ever hade the tonal musical accent of Swedish and Norewegian or if that was a later inovation. Icelandic is extremly archaiac and conservative but in pronaunciation Icelandic has changed as well to an extent being both conservative and inovating :)
All love
Eopyk 2 years ago
Old Norse is a common language spoken in most of Scandinavia up to ca. 800. After that old western Norse(known as old Norse) was spoken in Norway and Iceland while old eastern Norse(you called it Dönsk tunga) was thereafter spoken in Denmark and Sweden.
helvetesund 2 years ago
I don't know jack about old norse, so I can't critique. All I can say is it sounds lovely. Which you wouldn't exactly expect from Old Norse.
llriv 2 years ago
Thank you very much. That is very nice of you. I appreciate it.
MelodxKay 2 years ago
Youw should trill your R's more while I am not an expert on Old Norse that is something I can say clearly also your prounounced some ð as D when it was like TH in THat and so on but overall it was an okey :) Try out since you never spoken Old Norse before :)
(Hope I did not say anything wrong if an expert would point out something :P )
All love
Eopyk 2 years ago
Thank you very much for all of your corrections and suggestions. I appreciate them very much. All best. M.K.
MelodxKay 2 years ago
Yes, you're right, that is how it's supposed to be.
elvisheepofdoom 2 years ago
SAYHAaaaaaaa
Leeseuongwoo 3 years ago
Very good =) Only a few "mistakes" in how you pronounced some words, mostly right as far as I know though.
Tip: Don't put so much pressure in your A's.
Teddyboiiii 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your great comment and your advice. I truly appreciate it.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
very well read :) i loved it
ChicoDelNoroeste 3 years ago
Thank you very much! I appreciate your comment.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
It is pronounced a lor differently in icelandic, which is closest to old norse, you seem to be talking in a norwegian accent or something.
slefi 3 years ago
Hey, I wouldn't know actually. I mean it was the first time I've tried to speak any such language and my knowledge is too limited on the matter to even be sure which accent I am using. I've heard this once and I gave it a try to recite it myself. I'm pretty sure that my pronunciation isn't very correct but I suppose it is better to try and fail than not try at all. Thank you for your comment. Take care. Melodx
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Icelandic and Old Norse differd alot in prounonciation. How ever wher grammaticaly and lexicaly similear.
Eopyk 2 years ago
No they dont differ alot. Google it.
You just sound silly.
AdalDrottinn 2 years ago
Part 1: No I do not sound silly the Icelandic phonoligal system have changed in some cases more then for an eExample Norewegian and Swedish, for an example the loss voiced stops instead of contrasting voice and voiceless stop consonanats it contrast asperiated and non-asperiated also Icelandic have changed the vowel qualities a whole lot and even reduced the number of contrasting vowel sounds on the other hand also gaining new consonants and preserving some old sounds like the þ for an example
Eopyk 2 years ago
Ah Part 3 :P Also dialectal variations existed back in dǫnsk tunga area as well and still to this day some dialects of west Norway do share many similearites with Icelandic :)
Eopyk 2 years ago
You sound even more silly now.
@Icelandic phonoligal system have changed in some cases more then for an eExample Norewegian and Swedish.
Its what we call self ownage. No need for me to add anything to this.
How about just reading the wikipedia page on old norse for starters.
AdalDrottinn 2 years ago
I have Icelandic contrasts voiceless and asperiated stop consonants, Old Norse contrasted voice and voiceles.
There is also less contrastive vowels in Icelandic then in Old Norse also Icelandic as contrastive voiceless nasals something that from all we know did not exist in Old Norse.
Check out in wikipedia yourself at there English Old Norse and Icelandic pages
All love
Eopyk 2 years ago
very very nice! Thanks for posting! 5/5!
Keenan4life 3 years ago
No problem my friend :)
MelodxKay 3 years ago
it is norrönt or something like that its the language of the norwegian settlers on iceland
saxon is more than northern german or norse language today
Finstha 3 years ago
Hei
Which language exactly is that? is it icelandic,faroese,saxon or another one?
ty
Joonzen 3 years ago
It's Old Norse, I don't speak that language, just the poem. But I do understand your confusion because my accent is horrible I know. I hope you liked the pictures though.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Ohh I thought it was old Saxon^^
But it sounds nice and I like Lord of the Rings too ;)
Joonzen 3 years ago
Thank you. I am glad you liked it.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Thx
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Hi, this is cinad a funny I am from Iceland and I hear some right words that I noge from Icelandic If you want you can send me the text and I can read it for you ;)
arnihelga78 3 years ago
Thank you for your offer but I have heard how this text is pronounced correctly from a video I watched that was preformed by a man who spoke this language. The thing is it was very difficult for me to repeat everything the same way he said it because I have a very different language from this one and this is the first time in my life I've spoken Old Norse.I know it must sound funny to you.But I had to give it a try.If you come by my channel you might figure out why.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Sound okey.. You should hafe someone in Iceland read this for you. Icelandic is the best preserved old scandinavian language and has not changed much during the last 1000 years due to isolation.
kristjanzoega 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your honesty. I love languages that are well preserved and are spoken almost the same way as in the days of the old world. I think Icelandic is a very beautiful language.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Great! I'm learning old norse and I have no idea how to pronounce it, but thanks to you i have an idea haha
lac34 3 years ago
Thank you very much for your compliment though I'm not sure if I make a good example. This was the first time in my life I've ever spoken old norse. Best of luck with your learning.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
it's my favorite history!!!
the lord of the rings & The hobbit. J.R Tolkien in general!
almaspirit 3 years ago
Glad to hear it my friend.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Oh, you used the bukkehorn song as background music,cool :) pronounciation sounds okay, some mistakes but it doesnt sound too wrong considering your not a scandinavian. I might do one aswell once i get myself a good cam.
Vikingvinter 3 years ago
Thank you very much. Your sencere comments really mean a lot. I appreciate them very much aspeccialy as this video is the first time I have ever spoken any such language in my life. Thank you so very very much.
MelodxKay 3 years ago
love that film, bravo.
EclecticEgg 4 years ago
Thank you very very much!
MelodxKay 3 years ago
Great video ..
johnmacca16 4 years ago
Thank you very much!
MelodxKay 4 years ago
Vrlo lijepo.
Inace, obozavam knjigu Gospodar Prstenova, mozda cak i vise od filma.
Djunisijevic 4 years ago
Hej! Hvala lijepa! Knjige su gotovo uvijek bolje od filmova jer nam omogućavaju da sami izmaštamo priču, a naša mašta je doista neograničena!
Sve najbolje!
Melodx
MelodxKay 4 years ago
Cool :o)tm*****
uncledave10 4 years ago
Thanks!
MelodxKay 4 years ago
its only your pronounciation x)
if you want to get better, you have to learn the Icelandic pronounciation
KattenMandy 4 years ago
Well that's natural. I am after all a Croat. But still I really appreciate your comments.
Thank you very much. Best wishes!
MelodxKay 4 years ago
^^
why did you want to create this video ?
what is your passion ? :b
KattenMandy 4 years ago
My passion lies in forgotten things.I enjoy art in all of it's forms and I make myself part of it.Without art there is no Melodx, and without Melodx there is no me. I also love creating, writting, acting, dancing, reciting and drawing, pick any of those things and you will find my passion.
MelodxKay 4 years ago
thats cool :)
but old Norse is not forgotten, its one of the best preserved Ancient language in the world. only a few other is older and more preserved.
ek læra norrœnt mál ^^
( i am learning old norse)
KattenMandy 4 years ago
I know. What you say is true, but it is ancient and that is what draws me to it.
I'm quite difficult to understand, I hope I didn't confuse you. I can sometimes sound really strange to people. Forgive me if that was the case. If you are really interested, you can see some of my other videos. They might make things clearer than my words.
P.S. I hope you will have a lot of success with your learning.
MelodxKay 4 years ago
yes ^^
ancient stuff can be really fascinating :b
and thansk, i only need to learn to understand the grammar for verbs, and then i canstart to write stories in old norse :)
KattenMandy 4 years ago
Please do, it would be great if you would put them on youtube. I'd be the first to listen. :)
MelodxKay 4 years ago
sorry, i hate to hear my own voice, so i will only write things in my profile :/
KattenMandy 4 years ago
It's ok. I understand. There's a million things I'm not good at and dislike myself for it. I shall read them then. :) :)
MelodxKay 4 years ago
nice done ^^
there is only some small errors but its really good :)
KattenMandy 4 years ago
Hey, thanks. Can you please tell me the mistakes so I can correct them. My language is very different from this one and any constructive criticism is most welcome.
MelodxKay 4 years ago