Sorry, a certain amount of repulsion is allowed with not much penalty if any. Professional loud speakers are subject to several hundred watts of a repulsive fields to the speakers PM and they last for years. I highly doubt you canceled flux in neodymium magnets unless they were just about touching for a long period. Alnico will cancel or reduce flux if subject to high repulsion forces but will also recover if left alone for a short time.
nope...I cancelled the gauss power of my my RARE EARTH MAGNETS in a week with a repulsing configuration....just buy a gauss-meter,make measuremets ,before and after, and watch your magnets loosing force over and over...monopole attraction is the key...search for halbach's array to understand what I'm talking about ;-) anyways..good job with the proof of concept ;-) well done ;-)
One of the beautiful things about OC's concept here is that it works in both attraction and repulsion simultaneously thus the H field from the stator nets to zero as far as B field losses on the rotor magnets. Additionally, the rotor magnets are configured in continuous repulsion but there is no flux deviation between them as they are stationary with respects to each other. Consequently there is no degradation in B field density for these as well. These magnets are Neodymium Iron Boron 42MGOe.
Impressive work, Adminonduty. Here are my two cents which I hope might be insightful.
When you look at a gas engine, several key components withdraw energy from the engine to keep it running. Why not do the same in a magnetic engine? I bet there is enough torque to run a tiny alternator to power the solenoid. Another idea is to replace the electronic by a simpler and less energy consuming piezzoelectric material. Quartz comes to mind, like in a clock. Anyway, good luck, this is important work.
what's proven here is that a little magnetic stator pulse in the right moment can spin a larger rotor.you can see this same effect in a natural magnetic harmonic beat on my "tri-arc stator" k-Mets video. what you have here shows the possibility of a little power powering a larger motor/rotor.the unit should take less power to power it at higher rpm.you'll have to take power off your motor in a way that doesn't make drag.less power though but still power.enough for your motor i beleive to run..
One of the key factors here is the magnetic shear as the stator 'resets'. The shear is caused by the rotors momentum and the inability of the magnetic forces to reconnect in the alotted time. Like tires skidding because of loss of traction we are able to move against the flow and minimize negative torque during the 'reset' period.
The Halbach array configurations would be beneficial if we wanted to concentrate a single pole outward. However this rotor is configured with 4 poles derived from 8 magnets and thus the poles are alternating. A Halbach Array is not useful in this configuration.
Hi rwp1946, I thought it was self evident from the video and my previous comment but it has been brought to my attention that some do not understand the setup so here you go:
Yes.
The orange electric cord in top left frame of circuit video. See post below for more info or pm me for exact details.
The circuit is powered 12V via a Recoton 120VAC to 12VDC power pack. Standard TIP 120 is a Darlington driver transistor. The KewL thing here is the method of magnetic drive to the rotor incorporates magnetic shear and resonant oscillation of the stator mag. An optimal system would use a very narrow (1ms or less) pulse on the solenoid and swing 180 degrees for maximum torque transfer. The plunger is magnetic and thus converts energy back to the source on each reciprocation via a clamping diode.
Sorry, a certain amount of repulsion is allowed with not much penalty if any. Professional loud speakers are subject to several hundred watts of a repulsive fields to the speakers PM and they last for years. I highly doubt you canceled flux in neodymium magnets unless they were just about touching for a long period. Alnico will cancel or reduce flux if subject to high repulsion forces but will also recover if left alone for a short time.
txgiorgi 3 years ago
if the magnets are repulsing they are just loosing their flux..over an' over...till they will be useless and the rotor will stop..
liadon666 3 years ago
At the current rate of decay this is about 1000 years.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
nope...I cancelled the gauss power of my my RARE EARTH MAGNETS in a week with a repulsing configuration....just buy a gauss-meter,make measuremets ,before and after, and watch your magnets loosing force over and over...monopole attraction is the key...search for halbach's array to understand what I'm talking about ;-) anyways..good job with the proof of concept ;-) well done ;-)
liadon666 3 years ago
One of the beautiful things about OC's concept here is that it works in both attraction and repulsion simultaneously thus the H field from the stator nets to zero as far as B field losses on the rotor magnets. Additionally, the rotor magnets are configured in continuous repulsion but there is no flux deviation between them as they are stationary with respects to each other. Consequently there is no degradation in B field density for these as well. These magnets are Neodymium Iron Boron 42MGOe.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
Impressive work, Adminonduty. Here are my two cents which I hope might be insightful.
When you look at a gas engine, several key components withdraw energy from the engine to keep it running. Why not do the same in a magnetic engine? I bet there is enough torque to run a tiny alternator to power the solenoid. Another idea is to replace the electronic by a simpler and less energy consuming piezzoelectric material. Quartz comes to mind, like in a clock. Anyway, good luck, this is important work.
subtheo 3 years ago
what's proven here is that a little magnetic stator pulse in the right moment can spin a larger rotor.you can see this same effect in a natural magnetic harmonic beat on my "tri-arc stator" k-Mets video. what you have here shows the possibility of a little power powering a larger motor/rotor.the unit should take less power to power it at higher rpm.you'll have to take power off your motor in a way that doesn't make drag.less power though but still power.enough for your motor i beleive to run..
variablestatus 3 years ago
One of the key factors here is the magnetic shear as the stator 'resets'. The shear is caused by the rotors momentum and the inability of the magnetic forces to reconnect in the alotted time. Like tires skidding because of loss of traction we are able to move against the flow and minimize negative torque during the 'reset' period.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
The Halbach array configurations would be beneficial if we wanted to concentrate a single pole outward. However this rotor is configured with 4 poles derived from 8 magnets and thus the poles are alternating. A Halbach Array is not useful in this configuration.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
how about some plans and your electronic sketches and explainations so we can all make one
theoneagain 3 years ago
There is a schematic link on the peswiki site.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
A straight question.... requesting a straight answer in plain english.
Is there any exteral electrical power input into this operation?
Where is the electrical power coming from to run the electrical circuit and the solinoid?
rwp1946 3 years ago
Hi rwp1946, I thought it was self evident from the video and my previous comment but it has been brought to my attention that some do not understand the setup so here you go:
Yes.
The orange electric cord in top left frame of circuit video. See post below for more info or pm me for exact details.
Cheers :)
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
Awesome video. Keep up the good work!
ZanQuance 3 years ago
feature page created about this at PESWiki dot com. Search "Harvey" "MPMM"
PESNetwork 3 years ago
The circuit is powered 12V via a Recoton 120VAC to 12VDC power pack. Standard TIP 120 is a Darlington driver transistor. The KewL thing here is the method of magnetic drive to the rotor incorporates magnetic shear and resonant oscillation of the stator mag. An optimal system would use a very narrow (1ms or less) pulse on the solenoid and swing 180 degrees for maximum torque transfer. The plunger is magnetic and thus converts energy back to the source on each reciprocation via a clamping diode.
AdminOnDuty 3 years ago
Is the stator-driver powered by the 4 poles or triggered ?
Same for the circuit, or does 'standard 120' mean : connected to the grid.
JavaLessons 3 years ago