I think you will find a few Commer & Karriers have survive in the UK with these engines.
I used to work on these and many other lorries in the 60's these light lorries were quite quick with a 105 B.H.P on tap and 270 lbs of torque @ 1,200 RPM , would reach combat rev around 2,400 RPM, they were ripe for improvement but poxy Chrysler who bought Roots in '68 stopped the engine production it was too good it had to go.
The yanks had nothing that would touch it for BHP at only a 3.5 Litre.
Good on Mark! It looks brilliant. It sounds just like a TS3 but smoother (or is that just me?).
I assume modern fully synthetic oils would be used which would protect the engine far
more than the old mineral oils of the 1950/60s.. Also super sulphur free diesel must help as well
The scope for improvement on this engine is amazing. A turbo on it, modern injection, intercooler, quieter exhaust, synthetic oil, etc. Just bolt on goodies. really.
@NearAbbeyRoad Modern diesels are very quiet indeed, & extremely efficient. I now have a 1 litre petrol Chevrolet Matiz that cannot get close to the mpg of my Seat Leon 2 litre TDI. The Matiz produces 67 bhp & averages around 45 mpg, in a car weighing less than a ton. While the Leon is a ton & a half, produces 168 bhp, & averages 55 mpg. & you think the diesel is dead?? I've never understood how the petrol engine has survived the last 15 years when diesels do everything better.
Disels are not more efficient that petrol engines. The pwer/weight ratio of a deisel is very poor. Search You tube on: Russian Rotary Vane Engine. This is being built. Then Go ogle Yo-mobile. The Russians are serious about all this.
I quite like the sound of the TS4 myself, but it might be because the revs are a bit low. I'm fearing that on high revs, it would sound like a detroit 4-cylinder. :(
I think you will find a few Commer & Karriers have survive in the UK with these engines.
I used to work on these and many other lorries in the 60's these light lorries were quite quick with a 105 B.H.P on tap and 270 lbs of torque @ 1,200 RPM , would reach combat rev around 2,400 RPM, they were ripe for improvement but poxy Chrysler who bought Roots in '68 stopped the engine production it was too good it had to go.
The yanks had nothing that would touch it for BHP at only a 3.5 Litre.
1stMrSceptical 1 week ago
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1stMrSceptical 3 months ago
This must be one of the few prototypes that Chrysler ordered destroyed when buying Rootes. What a fantastic sound. Please put it in a truck.
Can you intercool it? The best diesel engine ever built without doubt.
If this engine was improved over time imagine what it would be likes now. It would thrash all others in mpg.
Imagine a small one cylinder version running at its sweet spot constant speed, turning a genny in a hybrid. We need to go back to the future.
NearAbbeyRoad 7 months ago 3
@NearAbbeyRoad I believe the gentleman who restored this engine, Mark Erskine, plans to do exactly that. (putting it back in a Commer truck)
Check out the website linked in the description for the full story behind this amazing restoration!
joffeloff 7 months ago
@joffeloff
Good on Mark! It looks brilliant. It sounds just like a TS3 but smoother (or is that just me?).
I assume modern fully synthetic oils would be used which would protect the engine far
more than the old mineral oils of the 1950/60s.. Also super sulphur free diesel must help as well
The scope for improvement on this engine is amazing. A turbo on it, modern injection, intercooler, quieter exhaust, synthetic oil, etc. Just bolt on goodies. really.
Web site superb. Nice one Kiwis!
NearAbbeyRoad 7 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad i believe a two stroke common rail diesel is the future
peppersdog1 3 months ago
@peppersdog1
I think diesel is dead because of the soot they emit 0 and noise.
NearAbbeyRoad 3 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad clearly you have never seen a modern diesel - zero soot and less noise than a petrol engine.
joffeloff 3 months ago
@joffeloff
I have had two diesel cars. They are NOISY inside and out. They need filters to catch the soot - more complexity.
NearAbbeyRoad 3 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad Modern diesels are very quiet indeed, & extremely efficient. I now have a 1 litre petrol Chevrolet Matiz that cannot get close to the mpg of my Seat Leon 2 litre TDI. The Matiz produces 67 bhp & averages around 45 mpg, in a car weighing less than a ton. While the Leon is a ton & a half, produces 168 bhp, & averages 55 mpg. & you think the diesel is dead?? I've never understood how the petrol engine has survived the last 15 years when diesels do everything better.
hiyadroogs 1 week ago
@hiyadroogs
Disels are not more efficient that petrol engines. The pwer/weight ratio of a deisel is very poor. Search You tube on: Russian Rotary Vane Engine. This is being built. Then Go ogle Yo-mobile. The Russians are serious about all this.
NearAbbeyRoad 6 days ago
what a superb sound :)
GingerPhilG 8 months ago
I quite like the sound of the TS4 myself, but it might be because the revs are a bit low. I'm fearing that on high revs, it would sound like a detroit 4-cylinder. :(
joffeloff 9 months ago
@joffeloff Just what I was thinking - sounds like a detroit supercharged engine at speed.
Drafty01 5 months ago
That 4th cylinder gives a less raucous noise. pity they never developed a 6 cylinder 300 bhp engine for 32/38 ton tractive units,
cpmcintosh1 9 months ago
@cpmcintosh1 You can make one from two TS3-s :P
MegaZsolti 4 months ago