we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
breed out the white race.. white littel boe 6 or a black man. 9..... impreganate white vermin hoes. an punch whitew boys.. they will act like they cool with blak or hispanic, or asian.. dont let the vermin coward boy fool you.. punch him real hard in the face... dance with the white ho an put a baby in her... the browning if america.. evem white coward boy pay to watch us do thier vewrmin
Punk Rock (70's-80-s) will never die, there will never be a replacement of its kind. Speaks the truth through music that very few bands ("outcasts") dare to advocate in today's world of fear and manipulation and control. Mainstream so called talent or "one hit wonders" these days is beyond pathetic, rarely does any one write their own music or play an instrument for that matter, its all electronic crap. The music industry then blames "downloaders" for the monetary losses. Punk is Dead!
@TheDeadJustice all white girls love black dick... punch white boys in the face real hard.. an impregnate whiote vermin hoes.. isnt it so sexy...... have as many haf breed ss as we can. i love it then they rite bak an say lern how to spel... when 9 ye old brown kids on spelin bees wuld tel them the dsame.... the browniong pf usa.. an world... so sexy.. punch white boy in facdfe.. impregnate white vermin ho
yes punk is dead and so is rock and roll and so is disco and so is metal etc etc. and we are left with a white man who thinks he can rap(lol), justin beaver and lady gag reflex. fukin shit they should team up and jump in the pool of medriocrity and indifference
le débat entre "clash" et "crass" est obsolete,si il y avait matiere à l'époque,avec le temps c'est devenu "old school".
c'est comme ceux qui pensent que les pistols ne furent que du vent: j'étais à LONDRES à l'époque,lors du jubilee de la reine,et les flics avaient l'air de les prendre trés au sérieux. pour preuves les coups dans la gueule!!
I don't hate the Clash at all . Is that what I said ??? Well I'm sorry . Its just allot of my friends love the clash and My Father also basically raised me on the clash .. But I have never been a big fan . I like a few songs though . And respect them for their great contribution to the world of Punk rock and Ska music. . You have no idea how many times I have been in arguments about this . If you like punk , then /people expect you to like the clash Automatically .
I am a die-hard Clash fan, yet still I have to say that the lyrics are brilliant, but I find the song itself rather weak, it lacks power.
But anyway, since I am a die-hard Clash fan I have to say something to all you people who call them sell-outs. And I'll try to be reasonable. Now I understand completely what people mean when they say that the Clash sold out, but that's not the whole truth...
... Yes, they did play at the big festivals and big arenas, but they still were true to their to their original ideas, maybe with a touch of irony, but just listen to some of Joe Strummer's speeches from their US fest gig from the year 1982. And also the Clash called it a day pretty soon after they hit major success. Now I must sound like just a die-hard fan ranting, but that's how it is. To me, the Clash stayed true to their ideology, even though they did get big.
@JoesRamone The Clash were completely genuine, made next to nothing in the end, they cared about their fans more than anything else. Hated fake bands and fake punk. My favorite band ever for those reasons.
also.... have you any idea how much honesty it showed for crass to criticize the clash at the time? They clearly said what they thought regardless of the consequences.
@adeworks I consider Topper/Mick leaving to be when The Clash ceased to exist. Joe wanted to hold onto his band but reality eventually hit him. Each one of them stayed true to their ideals until the end. Joe never stopped being genuine even until he died.
@TheYazoo321 You don't know what your talking about. Capitalist? The Clash were one of the most left wing groups that have ever existed. They hated capitalism
@relaxingmusic101 the sad thing about this comment is that even steve ignorant said that when he saw the clash in their early days he had nothing but great things to say about them. They spoke out against the system and they were the inspiration for Steve to be in a band. Sadly, however, they ended up selling out every chance they got and Steve & Penny started speaking out against them for being fakes. just another shamble for a buck.
@dustnbones99 That's only if you consider the Clash still being around after Mick left and Topper was kicked out. I realize that by name they went downhill, I don't think it was because Joe wanted money but because he wanted his dream band to stay alive. Years later in another interview he ended up saying The Clash was over when Mick left, and that without his former members he was trying to hold onto something he couldn't.
But throughout life the Clash themselves remained genuine.
The Clash set themselves up, under Bernie Rhodes, as leaders of a leftwing punk movement which was not compromise with big business, and which promoted political morality, see esp. the film Rude Boy for the critique of the Soviet Union BUT
'I'm so bored with the USA' ? Five minutes later, they were there, playing stadiums & behaving like the rock stars they claimed to despise. Just because they knocked out a good tune (and they did) shouldn't blind people to their faults.
@hschan4 Yep, spot on. I agree. I think the point I was trying to convey (badly) was really more about them becoming a rock band and everything that went with that. Going to America was only part of that. Then again, the argument goes that they could influence more people that way, but the political content of the songs definitely fell off, and although there was still a message there, it kind of got overshadowed by the medium they were operating in. A vastly important band though.
the clash didn't make any cash of their albums. they survived off royalty money later in life for all the people who covered their songs and put them in movies etc. so fuck off about they were just in it for money. you're all ignorant but just because you heard from a little bird that joe's father was a diplomat you think you can make ridiculous assumptions. still haven't got how someone can be a fake just cos their parents had a couple of spare dimes.
@m1n0rrthr3at Not really if you know what they stood for... Bunch of spoilt middleclass twits. They were the socialist version of Skrewdriver, trying to brainwash people with their politics.
@prodigalson56 Hardly spoilt. And I don't consider it brainwashing when they're just getting their views out there. Socialist? Maybe you should listen to Clampdown. But I understand where you're coming from.
@m1n0rrthr3at No mate The Clash really were from rich middleclass families esp Joe Strummer, he was essentially a fake... I'm familar with Clampdown, not really my bag. Personally I prefer the crust type of stuff like Darkthrone's most recent CD's.
@prodigalson56 Lol no, I wasn't saying you should listen to Clampdown because you'd like it, I mean it has a message in it that you should hear. And honestly, does it matter what type of families they were from? They don't stand for the same things as Crass, nor do they have the same morals, so they don't need to comply with the lifestyle of you and/or Crass.
@prodigalson56 only Joe was brought up to a well off family. and anyway, when he moved out he went straight on the dole and lived in a squat and never made any money off the clash deliberately so the fans could buy their music cheap. what in that makes him a fake?
most of the video is great... but some parts are just downright incorrect... for example, "it was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite" steve ignorant wasn't ignorant enough to think fascism and socialism were the same, he said SOCIAL elite, while they're both about as wrong (fascism and socialism) the government is far more fascist than socialist and he knew that. Awesome, unique diy portrayal though, make more!
why does a picture of Stalin come up on "left wing violence, right wing violence all seems much the same,"? Stalinism is clearly totalitarianism which is obviously right wing. Sorry it bothers me when people say Stalin is a left wing communist! or even just a communist
that's true, but he claimed communist and you can't blame anybody for ignorance, you can only blame their leaders (if even them it's kinda pointless anyway)
@bowlskaterkris "everyone has their faults"?? his fault is being born into a well off family of educated people? arrogance is a fault, vanity is a fault, being overly dependant is a fault, what family you're born into is not a personal fault.
@pirateXsatellite i was saying everyone has their faults in regards to who is right or wrong. Like Crass may have been right or wrong in saying they took the cash, the Clash may have been right or wrong in signing to CBS. I personally don't care. The Clash is my favorite band but Crass has a few things i agree with. Just saying.
But Im not looking to have anarguement about punk rock politics, it's useless. its just creative lyrics and music right?
yeah your right....people are just punks for fashion....ten years ago, me and my friends were punks, it was our opinion....fuck politicans...fuck the system....and so much things we were against.....fuck society.....but today the kids are just punx for nothing and nothing.....no own opinion....it´s a shame....punks not dead...were so important...oi oi oi
They played á RAR show but when offered payment for the show they didn´t want it and told the promoters that is should go to the cause. To which they got the reply "THIS is the cause".
I had always thought Crass were a decent band, not that I had listened to them very much, but now I see that I really dislike them. Who are they to accuse Joe Strummer of leaving his principles? That's fucking dumb.
dont b such an ejit joe strummer has only one principal...his bank balance.. if it was fasionable to be racist and would hav earned an xtra bob or two he would hav bin a nazi..trust me, i know one of his best mates. m
Joe Strummer was a fraud. I'm by no means an anarchist, and I'm not a fan of Crass, but Joe Strummer was the son of a diplomat and nixson7668 is right in everything he has said in regards to Joe.
good interpretation except i think you got it wrong at the one point when they were talking about the violent tendencies of left-wing revolutionaries and you were showing pictures of bush
whatever. dude why do you have to sit on here and start shit with people? is your life really that lame? you have no frinds to talk to? just sit and insult me? find real people. and get a grammar lesson "not understood not"
im pretty sure crass is crust anarcho PUNK when they said punk is dead im pretty sure they mean posers killedit and how it got commerical like clash just using the idea to make cash and getting rich no thoughts on fucking the system and living out of it. i am a punk, i am anarchist, i try my best to live outside the system and to fuck it over which i have done a good amount but from my expierence from currently living in vancouver and alwaysgoing to local shows i have seen that punk is not dead.
straight up brother, punk is not really dead. It can never die, it's just..shall we say, sleeping at the moment? There are still plenty of bands around playing "punk" music. I believe that the sound has gotten kind of stale though. We need to make some music that's new. OH, and I live in vancouver as well.
Yep. When punk was "alive" in 77-89 it was the popular thing to do, and now that its not the popular trendy thing anymore (emo and scene are today) its dead. "Punk Is Dead" means "being punk doesn't make you look cool," if your a real punk you don't care about looking cool, punks about doing what you want.
'Punk is Dead' means the leaders are sold out. Its the same as when Nas said Hip-Hop is dead. Blokes are in it for the money. Theyre using a movement to make hollow product for the sake of the fame.
The Ramones stood against flashy mainstream music. Sex Pistols stood against eliticism. Black Flag against conformity. Crass against violence. These groups had a purpose. Where is that today? Punk is dead, atleast we agree on that.
@kurtney91 man when I started highschool, not a single person rocked patches but myself. Now theres people with fucking RANCID and GREENDAY backpatches, it confuses the shit out of me. not to sound elitist, I don't ever cuss them, and hang out with a few people like that.
@Ansuz92 yeah, alot of these ppl are posers. i mean im not a punk, or I dont DRESS punk, but i do like a lot of the music.... a lot of people just wear boots and mohawks and automatically they think they're hardcore punks.
@kurtney91 said "where i live some ppl dress punk & think theyre cool, & they listen to shit like greenday... idiots"
Do you think post card punks are any better? Most people see music like this as just a phase of rebellion and a new style to wear. Eventually a lot of people grow out of it and it is fucking sad.
@kurtney91 Hey hey hey, Im punk and i listen too greenday the older stuff but i also listen too the casualities, crass, the distillers, the misfits, Danzig Am i not punk then?
Punks don't buy cloths law, my best friend who is from france, who now lives in america is a punk through and through, not because he has the money to pay for the cloths and shit, but because he lives the lifestyle, believe in it, his cloths are all fucked up because he is to poor to pay for new ones. Not because he chooses them to be like that.
i dont know, sounds to me like he did choose it. i thought punk was a way to vent frustration and rebel against "the man" or some shit like that. a way of working toward a better life so we dont end up like kids in somalia who have no other choice but to be child soldiers or pirates. you say ur friend went to america, which is not so bad compared to the rest of the world. if ur friend is in the shits, he put himself there. "The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take".
@UpThePunxDIY "when people say "punks dead" they mean its not the mainstream anymore. People are no longer punks for fashion, its now, officially, a way of life." You said a lot right there Mate. I respect that!
fool. u didnt get what crass want to say...-.- when people say punks dead they mean that its dead because its become fashion.... mohawk leather jackets.... all that made punk a fashion and its more fashion then it ever was before. why? cause u can get all your punkrock stuff and clothes in shops... and when i think about the prices... 60€ for trouser 60€ for boots.... 100€ for leatherjacket... THATS fashion!
Darthvictor12, I know what they are against and have been a fan long enough to understand anarchist politics and I do know they are for permaculture. To quote Rimbaud, "In 77 the revolution was guitars and microphones, the revolution is now permaculture." Being a permie myself, I am convinced that permaculture is everything Crass sang about.
socialism/democrocy.fascism/capitalism/communism belong to the industail military complex havent yall look in to history none of it fucking works yall just keep romaticazing idealoghy's and the communist manifesto was funded by the wealthiest familys all of these systems play a convinunt role in the new world order. its all about econonmics do the math fuck!
I know they're anarchists but why does crass attack carl Marx? i mean true communism would be more or less a Utopian anarchy cause everyone shares equally what they produce, there are no government leaders. only just like Anarchy Communism couldn't work. The bulk of humanity is too ignorant, fearful and violent for us to be able to live in peace. So all anarchy would lead to would be more violence, death, and destruction. but maybe thats what we need. But for real why do they?
yeah, that's what i try to tell people, but as soon as they hear the word "Communist" or "Socialist" they stop listening and go on some republican gun nut rant.
but marxism aims for self sufficieny like crass does, its just because that when Lenin took over russia, everyone got the view that communism is authoritarian. But Lenin was no communist, just a state capitalist diguised as a communist.
if you look at real marxism, marx was an anarchist. its just because the marxists wanted to use the state to gain more workers rights but anarchists wanted to use trade unions. simply because of that there was a big rif between marx and other anarchists.
Yes but Anarchist/Stateless/Communist societies HAVE existed in both the modern era and in the past. For example Ireland was for a very long time a stateless society during the dark ages and everything was good. Nowadays the EZLN in southern Mexico is a network of fully functioning anarchist municipalities and communities (most members of the EZLN view the group as "Marxists")
this song is exactly right. i try to eplain to people that fascism doesn't cancel out facsism. that riots show the high powers that were still animals. there so smart. id feel lost without bands like this. there the only ones that seem to really get it!
Crass is a wicked group, but they shoulda done their research more. It was the reds who were the main initiators of modern day militant antifascism in the form of the Anti Nazi League back in the 70s, and then AntiFascist Action.
I think the whole point of the song is not being against the reds. It's being against violence, greed and politics either left wing or right wing. The point is that the whole (real) thrill of being united against a "them", fascists in this case, is still an example of abandoning your individuality to that of a mass. This phenomena of "us and them" has often been the cause of atrocities throuout history
people can give you thumbds downs and leave stupid comments but you're right. Crass put out a song saying punk is dead because all these shit punk rock bands caught the wave of commercialism and just did it for fashion along with their fans. WHAT REVOLUTION HAS HAPPENED? PUNK IS DEAD! Anarchy exists without dirty crust punks it lives in the minds of activists. Crass knew it, I know it, but jackriter doesn't know it. But anarchy is not the only good social concept any ideology needs good people.
right man good hearted person can create an ideology, but it takes just a few narrow minded idiots to exploit ideology, social concept or whatever, ruining it for everyone.
i'm not an anarchist because i dont see how it will work, theres too many assholes in the world. but if someday someone can give me an idea or a plan that can make it work without slagging off the government now, then but only then it will have my full support... but crass are fucking awesome
I agree. For the moment I am an anarchist as long as I consider it my ideal utopy. This is the attitude I consider the most appropriate at least for the moment. Promoting an armed revolution to instigate anarchy right now would be opposed the anarchy&peace ethoes at least that promoted by CRASS which I think is the soundest
CI have talked to plenty of "punks" despite your "obvious knowledge"C
Crass were saved from a severe beating by the nazi BM by "left-wing violence" in Conway Hall in 1979. This song was written about the incident in their bourgeois shock/horror.
If its fascism with bush and blair why were they lawfully voted in by the people?? just a simple question oxyroxymoron not being cheeky just wondering what your basis is for calling them facist??
I listen to Dystopia and green day at the same time
A2Z83 1 week ago
spit upon a jew pogo on a nazi priceless XD
khoroshoorange 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Google "Occupy Wall Street"
The protests are spreading across America and the world. Take your angst to the streets. Thumbs this shit up - it's important as fuck.
hollleeee 3 months ago
who cares? anarchy and freedom is what i want.
Madadict 4 months ago
@Madadict
nooooo its not feasible >:O
khoroshoorange 1 month ago
@khoroshoorange
yeah i know, but that's why it's what i "want," i'm not saying it's an easy road.
Madadict 1 month ago
@Madadict
i was being sarcastic.
khoroshoorange 1 month ago
The clash are legends and crass is sick. just thought id put that out here.
matthewjamal 5 months ago
They said that we were trash, but the name is CRASS not CLASH
321KojaK123 5 months ago in playlist Crass
actually, they started the punk movement
no fuss, just say what's it all about
PERTUNNEL 6 months ago
shite
gunner5217 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
whatis-theplan(dot)org
JesterCanter 7 months ago
breed out the white race.. white littel boe 6 or a black man. 9..... impreganate white vermin hoes. an punch whitew boys.. they will act like they cool with blak or hispanic, or asian.. dont let the vermin coward boy fool you.. punch him real hard in the face... dance with the white ho an put a baby in her... the browning if america.. evem white coward boy pay to watch us do thier vewrmin
voodoo9606 8 months ago
Punk Rock (70's-80-s) will never die, there will never be a replacement of its kind. Speaks the truth through music that very few bands ("outcasts") dare to advocate in today's world of fear and manipulation and control. Mainstream so called talent or "one hit wonders" these days is beyond pathetic, rarely does any one write their own music or play an instrument for that matter, its all electronic crap. The music industry then blames "downloaders" for the monetary losses. Punk is Dead!
TheDeadJustice 9 months ago
@TheDeadJustice all white girls love black dick... punch white boys in the face real hard.. an impregnate whiote vermin hoes.. isnt it so sexy...... have as many haf breed ss as we can. i love it then they rite bak an say lern how to spel... when 9 ye old brown kids on spelin bees wuld tel them the dsame.... the browniong pf usa.. an world... so sexy.. punch white boy in facdfe.. impregnate white vermin ho
voodoo9606 8 months ago
@voodoo9606 remember when all the whites had all the blacks in chains?
libertr33 6 months ago
@voodoo9606 You are an idiot.
stiffmajjthegiant 5 months ago
no trash... no clash... THE CRASS
SkullGlow 9 months ago
yes punk is dead and so is rock and roll and so is disco and so is metal etc etc. and we are left with a white man who thinks he can rap(lol), justin beaver and lady gag reflex. fukin shit they should team up and jump in the pool of medriocrity and indifference
tamaria6564 10 months ago
@tamaria6564 lady gaga is punker than you faggot
televisedcolonoscopy 9 months ago
le débat entre "clash" et "crass" est obsolete,si il y avait matiere à l'époque,avec le temps c'est devenu "old school".
c'est comme ceux qui pensent que les pistols ne furent que du vent: j'étais à LONDRES à l'époque,lors du jubilee de la reine,et les flics avaient l'air de les prendre trés au sérieux. pour preuves les coups dans la gueule!!
dominique6259 1 year ago
i really like how you used the term "punks not dead" in a crass video
brotherwanky12 1 year ago
I gledged during this. : )
bluenail90 1 year ago
I like the lyrics ...."They said that we were trash,
Well the name is Crass, not Clash.
They can stuff their punk credentials
Cause it's them that take the cash." man FUCK THE CLASH !
Daryn031 1 year ago
@Daryn031
u hate the clash because crass told u too? but let me guess exploited and sex pistols are okay because steve didnt tell ya right?
MasterMarf 11 months ago
@MasterMarf
I don't hate the Clash at all . Is that what I said ??? Well I'm sorry . Its just allot of my friends love the clash and My Father also basically raised me on the clash .. But I have never been a big fan . I like a few songs though . And respect them for their great contribution to the world of Punk rock and Ska music. . You have no idea how many times I have been in arguments about this . If you like punk , then /people expect you to like the clash Automatically .
Daryn031 10 months ago
This song is bullshit, it sounds raw but the viwes exppressed about antifascism are total bollox.
shinobi38 1 year ago
dont fool urself with ur white liberal shit...u c jus we niggas 2 da rulerz of this land...ha ha ha
qpiz22 1 year ago
I am a die-hard Clash fan, yet still I have to say that the lyrics are brilliant, but I find the song itself rather weak, it lacks power.
But anyway, since I am a die-hard Clash fan I have to say something to all you people who call them sell-outs. And I'll try to be reasonable. Now I understand completely what people mean when they say that the Clash sold out, but that's not the whole truth...
JoesRamone 1 year ago
... Yes, they did play at the big festivals and big arenas, but they still were true to their to their original ideas, maybe with a touch of irony, but just listen to some of Joe Strummer's speeches from their US fest gig from the year 1982. And also the Clash called it a day pretty soon after they hit major success. Now I must sound like just a die-hard fan ranting, but that's how it is. To me, the Clash stayed true to their ideology, even though they did get big.
JoesRamone 1 year ago
@JoesRamone The Clash were completely genuine, made next to nothing in the end, they cared about their fans more than anything else. Hated fake bands and fake punk. My favorite band ever for those reasons.
relaxingmusic101 1 year ago
@relaxingmusic101
yeah, but they became just another pop band, shame,
adeworks 1 year ago
@adeworks
also.... have you any idea how much honesty it showed for crass to criticize the clash at the time? They clearly said what they thought regardless of the consequences.
adeworks 1 year ago
@adeworks I consider Topper/Mick leaving to be when The Clash ceased to exist. Joe wanted to hold onto his band but reality eventually hit him. Each one of them stayed true to their ideals until the end. Joe never stopped being genuine even until he died.
relaxingmusic101 1 year ago
@relaxingmusic101 they sold out at the very start! they were capitalist puppets
TheYazoo321 1 year ago
@TheYazoo321 You don't know what your talking about. Capitalist? The Clash were one of the most left wing groups that have ever existed. They hated capitalism
relaxingmusic101 1 year ago
@relaxingmusic101 the sad thing about this comment is that even steve ignorant said that when he saw the clash in their early days he had nothing but great things to say about them. They spoke out against the system and they were the inspiration for Steve to be in a band. Sadly, however, they ended up selling out every chance they got and Steve & Penny started speaking out against them for being fakes. just another shamble for a buck.
dustnbones99 1 year ago
@dustnbones99 That's only if you consider the Clash still being around after Mick left and Topper was kicked out. I realize that by name they went downhill, I don't think it was because Joe wanted money but because he wanted his dream band to stay alive. Years later in another interview he ended up saying The Clash was over when Mick left, and that without his former members he was trying to hold onto something he couldn't.
But throughout life the Clash themselves remained genuine.
relaxingmusic101 1 year ago
Any band that opens a song by telling the Clash to "Stuff it!" is awesome in my book!
JLWing77 1 year ago
well in my town people dress punk and whole fuckng time they are drunk.... in my state more than 50% cost of alcohl goes to the government
anarchist63 1 year ago
ahaha i love how literal the video is x)
ShawnLFDY 1 year ago
I felt safer with Bush,
birdhunter67 1 year ago
Crass were right.
The Clash set themselves up, under Bernie Rhodes, as leaders of a leftwing punk movement which was not compromise with big business, and which promoted political morality, see esp. the film Rude Boy for the critique of the Soviet Union BUT
'I'm so bored with the USA' ? Five minutes later, they were there, playing stadiums & behaving like the rock stars they claimed to despise. Just because they knocked out a good tune (and they did) shouldn't blind people to their faults.
johnnyvicious2 1 year ago
@johnnyvicious2 I think that was about American foreign policy, it didn't preclude them from playing shows there.
hschan4 1 year ago
@hschan4 Yep, spot on. I agree. I think the point I was trying to convey (badly) was really more about them becoming a rock band and everything that went with that. Going to America was only part of that. Then again, the argument goes that they could influence more people that way, but the political content of the songs definitely fell off, and although there was still a message there, it kind of got overshadowed by the medium they were operating in. A vastly important band though.
johnnyvicious2 1 year ago
@johnnyvicious2 Agreed.
hschan4 1 year ago
"liberal wanker" hahah I loved it.
SdSwedeBurrito 1 year ago
the clash didn't make any cash of their albums. they survived off royalty money later in life for all the people who covered their songs and put them in movies etc. so fuck off about they were just in it for money. you're all ignorant but just because you heard from a little bird that joe's father was a diplomat you think you can make ridiculous assumptions. still haven't got how someone can be a fake just cos their parents had a couple of spare dimes.
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
Check out BURNT CROSS - UK Anarcho style punk in vien of Conflict/Crass/Flux etc
cramphound 1 year ago
Wow what a great video, well done m8! Ohh and what a classic song from a classic bunch of REAL people (i wont use the word 'band')
Its great that the 'sheep' below like prodigalson 56' dont get it, and never will (your a closet case m8!)
puremania7777 1 year ago
man, I've never worn a mohawk, tartan or put a safety pin through but I consider myself punk. Moreso than any of these little dress up punks.
Punks a mindset!
stiffmajjthegiant 1 year ago 6
punk voter???
negativecreep420 1 year ago
@negativecreep420 i was just about to say the same thing :/
leravachol 1 year ago
time to redo it now that there is a new prez
debo222 1 year ago
Alright, that Clash bit was unneeded. e-e
m1n0rrthr3at 2 years ago
@m1n0rrthr3at Not really if you know what they stood for... Bunch of spoilt middleclass twits. They were the socialist version of Skrewdriver, trying to brainwash people with their politics.
prodigalson56 1 year ago
@prodigalson56 Hardly spoilt. And I don't consider it brainwashing when they're just getting their views out there. Socialist? Maybe you should listen to Clampdown. But I understand where you're coming from.
m1n0rrthr3at 1 year ago
@m1n0rrthr3at No mate The Clash really were from rich middleclass families esp Joe Strummer, he was essentially a fake... I'm familar with Clampdown, not really my bag. Personally I prefer the crust type of stuff like Darkthrone's most recent CD's.
prodigalson56 1 year ago
@prodigalson56 Lol no, I wasn't saying you should listen to Clampdown because you'd like it, I mean it has a message in it that you should hear. And honestly, does it matter what type of families they were from? They don't stand for the same things as Crass, nor do they have the same morals, so they don't need to comply with the lifestyle of you and/or Crass.
m1n0rrthr3at 1 year ago
@prodigalson56 only Joe was brought up to a well off family. and anyway, when he moved out he went straight on the dole and lived in a squat and never made any money off the clash deliberately so the fans could buy their music cheap. what in that makes him a fake?
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago
most of the video is great... but some parts are just downright incorrect... for example, "it was just a form of fascism for the socialist elite" steve ignorant wasn't ignorant enough to think fascism and socialism were the same, he said SOCIAL elite, while they're both about as wrong (fascism and socialism) the government is far more fascist than socialist and he knew that. Awesome, unique diy portrayal though, make more!
MusicIan423 2 years ago
why does a picture of Stalin come up on "left wing violence, right wing violence all seems much the same,"? Stalinism is clearly totalitarianism which is obviously right wing. Sorry it bothers me when people say Stalin is a left wing communist! or even just a communist
Stenchyboxcar 2 years ago
that's true, but he claimed communist and you can't blame anybody for ignorance, you can only blame their leaders (if even them it's kinda pointless anyway)
MusicIan423 2 years ago
stalin emobdied communism as much as Nathan rothschild did
kylecyclopdoddsmole 1 year ago
punk is dead
JordanGoughComedy 2 years ago 3
Yeah punk voter is any different, since punkvoter endorsed our dear leader, the statist master Obama. This video is fucking retarded,
tehsleeper 2 years ago
Comment removed
bowlskaterkris 2 years ago 4
@bowlskaterkris
Strummer was a tourist, man. look at who his daddy was. slogging it in with the working class at their quaint little punk shows.
brings new meaning to the phrase "cheap holiday in other peoples misery."
clevhaus 2 years ago
@clenhaus
i know what you mean, but i think strummer basically ditched the whole rich deal. can't help what you're born into.
like i said, im not too concerned with whose right or wrong. everyone has their faults, im only 18 so i wasn't around for this.
bowlskaterkris 2 years ago 3
@bowlskaterkris "everyone has their faults"?? his fault is being born into a well off family of educated people? arrogance is a fault, vanity is a fault, being overly dependant is a fault, what family you're born into is not a personal fault.
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago
@pirateXsatellite i was saying everyone has their faults in regards to who is right or wrong. Like Crass may have been right or wrong in saying they took the cash, the Clash may have been right or wrong in signing to CBS. I personally don't care. The Clash is my favorite band but Crass has a few things i agree with. Just saying.
But Im not looking to have anarguement about punk rock politics, it's useless. its just creative lyrics and music right?
take care
bowlskaterkris 1 year ago
@bowlskaterkris good then. we are in agreement on every point you brought up.
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago
@bowlskaterkris Strummer admitted himself that he couldn't believe that he and The Clash sold out.
shinobi38 5 months ago
great video!
YayMeYayMeYayMe 2 years ago
Comment removed
ZH016 2 years ago
yeah your right....people are just punks for fashion....ten years ago, me and my friends were punks, it was our opinion....fuck politicans...fuck the system....and so much things we were against.....fuck society.....but today the kids are just punx for nothing and nothing.....no own opinion....it´s a shame....punks not dead...were so important...oi oi oi
edelsen1983 2 years ago
They played á RAR show but when offered payment for the show they didn´t want it and told the promoters that is should go to the cause. To which they got the reply "THIS is the cause".
This song is about that.
WhimsicalQuandary 2 years ago
I had always thought Crass were a decent band, not that I had listened to them very much, but now I see that I really dislike them. Who are they to accuse Joe Strummer of leaving his principles? That's fucking dumb.
JoeyRamonerulz 2 years ago
What principles did he have in the first place?
rivalviral 2 years ago
dont b such an ejit joe strummer has only one principal...his bank balance.. if it was fasionable to be racist and would hav earned an xtra bob or two he would hav bin a nazi..trust me, i know one of his best mates. m
nixson7668 2 years ago
Joe Strummer was a fraud. I'm by no means an anarchist, and I'm not a fan of Crass, but Joe Strummer was the son of a diplomat and nixson7668 is right in everything he has said in regards to Joe.
whitetrashoutlaw 2 years ago
@JoeyRamonerulz you and me against the world, mate.
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago
It's not an "interpretation" it is a dire literal rendering.
jollyjarvis 2 years ago
1:12 Yes it is!
RockstarRacc00n 2 years ago
My Favorite Crass song.
k90728 2 years ago 3
good interpretation except i think you got it wrong at the one point when they were talking about the violent tendencies of left-wing revolutionaries and you were showing pictures of bush
Wahoofuck 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fuck crass. i'd rather listen to GG ALLIN.
can't stand PC SHIT.....................and besides they couldn't play their damn insturments. gay gay gay.
nigletgook 2 years ago
and does gg care if you like him?
no
Mennismervice 2 years ago
At least Crass members are still alive.
ZachVicious3737 2 years ago
its funny how crass sings punk is dead. and here comes this kid, with his little punk's not dead text. hahaha
ashleyvonriot 3 years ago
s even more amusing the fact that you did not understood not even the context
petrach90 3 years ago
whatever. dude why do you have to sit on here and start shit with people? is your life really that lame? you have no frinds to talk to? just sit and insult me? find real people. and get a grammar lesson "not understood not"
ashleyvonriot 2 years ago
Haha indd, hilarious
daisyftw 2 years ago
im pretty sure crass is crust anarcho PUNK when they said punk is dead im pretty sure they mean posers killedit and how it got commerical like clash just using the idea to make cash and getting rich no thoughts on fucking the system and living out of it. i am a punk, i am anarchist, i try my best to live outside the system and to fuck it over which i have done a good amount but from my expierence from currently living in vancouver and alwaysgoing to local shows i have seen that punk is not dead.
andjelic17 2 years ago
straight up brother, punk is not really dead. It can never die, it's just..shall we say, sleeping at the moment? There are still plenty of bands around playing "punk" music. I believe that the sound has gotten kind of stale though. We need to make some music that's new. OH, and I live in vancouver as well.
coffehouseblues 2 years ago
yea i ahree its not dead just full of bands like rancid taking away this political sound
george1punk2 2 years ago 2
when people say "punks dead" they mean its not the mainstream anymore. People are no longer punks for fashion, its now, officially, a way of life.
PUNK IS DEAD AND PROUD OF IT!
UpThePunxDIY 2 years ago 22
is that what it truely meens?
i never looked at it that way.
george1punk2 2 years ago 2
Yep. When punk was "alive" in 77-89 it was the popular thing to do, and now that its not the popular trendy thing anymore (emo and scene are today) its dead. "Punk Is Dead" means "being punk doesn't make you look cool," if your a real punk you don't care about looking cool, punks about doing what you want.
punks dead, I hope it stays dead!
UpThePunxDIY 2 years ago 4
'Punk is Dead' means the leaders are sold out. Its the same as when Nas said Hip-Hop is dead. Blokes are in it for the money. Theyre using a movement to make hollow product for the sake of the fame.
The Ramones stood against flashy mainstream music. Sex Pistols stood against eliticism. Black Flag against conformity. Crass against violence. These groups had a purpose. Where is that today? Punk is dead, atleast we agree on that.
funkitup4ya 2 years ago 3
Crass was a lot more than just anti-violence
Rawnoize 2 years ago
where i live some ppl dress punk & think theyre cool, & they listen to shit like greenday... idiots
kurtney91 2 years ago 43
people really do only dress punk to be cool. It's just i dont have a problem with it.
spilledinsanity 2 years ago
@kurtney91 man when I started highschool, not a single person rocked patches but myself. Now theres people with fucking RANCID and GREENDAY backpatches, it confuses the shit out of me. not to sound elitist, I don't ever cuss them, and hang out with a few people like that.
Ansuz92 1 year ago
@Ansuz92 yeah, alot of these ppl are posers. i mean im not a punk, or I dont DRESS punk, but i do like a lot of the music.... a lot of people just wear boots and mohawks and automatically they think they're hardcore punks.
Man i really dont give a shit.
i just like the music
kurtney91 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@kurtney91 said "where i live some ppl dress punk & think theyre cool, & they listen to shit like greenday... idiots"
Do you think post card punks are any better? Most people see music like this as just a phase of rebellion and a new style to wear. Eventually a lot of people grow out of it and it is fucking sad.
TurkeyJizzle 1 year ago
@kurtney91 ha ha I know exactly what you mean, it's people like that who this song is for.
imseeingred9119 1 year ago
@kurtney91 communism was ok till assholes like you started making exceptions....same with punk...piss like you telling people what to listen to
magnmadsen 1 year ago
@kurtney91 Do something about it.
TasteLikeMota 11 months ago
@kurtney91 they dont dress punk they dress like fags..
operationdestroy 9 months ago
@kurtney91 i love greenday and i like crass...is that a problem??
Nightrain97GreenDay 9 months ago
@Nightrain97GreenDay
Probably! (For those who hates both of them. Though G.Day seems to B quite OK I'd say...)
Hollandia777 9 months ago
@kurtney91 Hey hey hey, Im punk and i listen too greenday the older stuff but i also listen too the casualities, crass, the distillers, the misfits, Danzig Am i not punk then?
ShamrockReject 5 months ago
@ShamrockReject idk are you?
massnerder1 3 months ago
@massnerder1 you fuckin tell me man
ShamrockReject 3 months ago
@ShamrockReject sure dude
massnerder1 3 months ago
@kurtney91 i listen to everything from greenday to dystopia who gives ashit
libertr33 4 months ago
do you really think people are no longer punks for fashion? maybe not in your country, but down here it's the damn usual.
"still dressing punk, you fashion victim?" I'd like to ask to all those idiot, money-filled sons and daughters
Eruhen 2 years ago 3
Punks don't buy cloths law, my best friend who is from france, who now lives in america is a punk through and through, not because he has the money to pay for the cloths and shit, but because he lives the lifestyle, believe in it, his cloths are all fucked up because he is to poor to pay for new ones. Not because he chooses them to be like that.
Rockyomind 2 years ago
i dont know, sounds to me like he did choose it. i thought punk was a way to vent frustration and rebel against "the man" or some shit like that. a way of working toward a better life so we dont end up like kids in somalia who have no other choice but to be child soldiers or pirates. you say ur friend went to america, which is not so bad compared to the rest of the world. if ur friend is in the shits, he put himself there. "The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take".
landfill2 2 years ago
@UpThePunxDIY "when people say "punks dead" they mean its not the mainstream anymore. People are no longer punks for fashion, its now, officially, a way of life." You said a lot right there Mate. I respect that!
goldragons 1 year ago
@UpThePunxDIY
keep telling urself that
rocknrollporn 1 year ago
@UpThePunxDIY thats so true, ive thought of that a few days ago, sad to see hiphop dead
crackroksteady420 1 year ago
@UpThePunxDIY
fool. u didnt get what crass want to say...-.- when people say punks dead they mean that its dead because its become fashion.... mohawk leather jackets.... all that made punk a fashion and its more fashion then it ever was before. why? cause u can get all your punkrock stuff and clothes in shops... and when i think about the prices... 60€ for trouser 60€ for boots.... 100€ for leatherjacket... THATS fashion!
MasterMarf 11 months ago
yes its right punk is dead
its just another cheap product for the consumers head :O
MasterMarf 11 months ago
@UpThePunxDIY ummm im pretty sher its the complete opposite
BoredRocks275 10 months ago
@UpThePunxDIY ohhh yeahh but the problem is theres really not that many clubs anymore and theres really noone to share the love with
operationdestroy 9 months ago
@UpThePunxDIY people complain like it's not easy to just not give a fuck about anything anymore......it's just like....DO IT!
matthewjamal 5 months ago
They said that we were trash, well the name is Crass, not Clash.
Ricardo72 3 years ago
What are these guys against kinda confused
Darthvictor12 3 years ago
Darthvictor12, I know what they are against and have been a fan long enough to understand anarchist politics and I do know they are for permaculture. To quote Rimbaud, "In 77 the revolution was guitars and microphones, the revolution is now permaculture." Being a permie myself, I am convinced that permaculture is everything Crass sang about.
ninyae 3 years ago
socialism/democrocy.fascism/capitalism/communism belong to the industail military complex havent yall look in to history none of it fucking works yall just keep romaticazing idealoghy's and the communist manifesto was funded by the wealthiest familys all of these systems play a convinunt role in the new world order. its all about econonmics do the math fuck!
babygme 3 years ago
big A little A bouncing B.
jayer33 3 years ago
I know they're anarchists but why does crass attack carl Marx? i mean true communism would be more or less a Utopian anarchy cause everyone shares equally what they produce, there are no government leaders. only just like Anarchy Communism couldn't work. The bulk of humanity is too ignorant, fearful and violent for us to be able to live in peace. So all anarchy would lead to would be more violence, death, and destruction. but maybe thats what we need. But for real why do they?
DrunkmastaPtolmey 3 years ago
yeah, that's what i try to tell people, but as soon as they hear the word "Communist" or "Socialist" they stop listening and go on some republican gun nut rant.
Skatelennon 3 years ago
cause most people are only interested in things that they think they have a handle on.
DrunkmastaPtolmey 3 years ago
"know they're anarchists but why does crass attack carl Marx?"
Because they are anarchists
You miss the point entirely
Crass is basically about self sufficiency
Thats it
Marxism is exactly what they sing against (and capitalism or course)
Crass are the one true punk band
Alot have put out good albums
But crass lived it
Say what you want but Crass Are Punk
666daedsidog 3 years ago
ah i see.
DrunkmastaPtolmey 3 years ago
but marxism aims for self sufficieny like crass does, its just because that when Lenin took over russia, everyone got the view that communism is authoritarian. But Lenin was no communist, just a state capitalist diguised as a communist.
vanuaturocks 3 years ago
if you look at real marxism, marx was an anarchist. its just because the marxists wanted to use the state to gain more workers rights but anarchists wanted to use trade unions. simply because of that there was a big rif between marx and other anarchists.
vanuaturocks 3 years ago
thanks for explaining that dude.
DrunkmastaPtolmey 3 years ago
Yes but Anarchist/Stateless/Communist societies HAVE existed in both the modern era and in the past. For example Ireland was for a very long time a stateless society during the dark ages and everything was good. Nowadays the EZLN in southern Mexico is a network of fully functioning anarchist municipalities and communities (most members of the EZLN view the group as "Marxists")
vanuaturocks 3 years ago
this song is exactly right. i try to eplain to people that fascism doesn't cancel out facsism. that riots show the high powers that were still animals. there so smart. id feel lost without bands like this. there the only ones that seem to really get it!
spilledinsanity 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
stupid recostruction
lolleriz88 3 years ago
Crass is a wicked group, but they shoulda done their research more. It was the reds who were the main initiators of modern day militant antifascism in the form of the Anti Nazi League back in the 70s, and then AntiFascist Action.
Anarchists 8-) lol
palachinov 3 years ago 3
I think the whole point of the song is not being against the reds. It's being against violence, greed and politics either left wing or right wing. The point is that the whole (real) thrill of being united against a "them", fascists in this case, is still an example of abandoning your individuality to that of a mass. This phenomena of "us and them" has often been the cause of atrocities throuout history
Arg3punto1 3 years ago 8
You clearly missed the point
666daedsidog 3 years ago 2
when the picture punks not dead.. i said thats dumb,these dudes made a song called punks dead..do ur homework.fuck hippies
oioioioi0666 3 years ago
oioioioioioioioioioioioioioioi
dumbass
jackriter 3 years ago
hioies are more punk then some pelope like green day fans and other bands like sum 41 think there punk i think hippes are cool so are beatnecks
debo222 3 years ago 3
hippies
debo222 3 years ago
people can give you thumbds downs and leave stupid comments but you're right. Crass put out a song saying punk is dead because all these shit punk rock bands caught the wave of commercialism and just did it for fashion along with their fans. WHAT REVOLUTION HAS HAPPENED? PUNK IS DEAD! Anarchy exists without dirty crust punks it lives in the minds of activists. Crass knew it, I know it, but jackriter doesn't know it. But anarchy is not the only good social concept any ideology needs good people.
ritalate 3 years ago 18
ye, i think its also to do with nazi skinheads and all that working class oi punk, punks dead cos they killed it with there nazi shit
parkerman23 3 years ago
S.L.F.
tententsdrinker 3 years ago
right man good hearted person can create an ideology, but it takes just a few narrow minded idiots to exploit ideology, social concept or whatever, ruining it for everyone.
glitchesandglitter 3 years ago
crass is a grate band not rasist at all am so sick of rasist bands can some one tell me all the rasist punk bands so i can not lessin to them thanks
debo222 3 years ago
only one i know of is Skrewdriver
punklover99 3 years ago
i'm not an anarchist because i dont see how it will work, theres too many assholes in the world. but if someday someone can give me an idea or a plan that can make it work without slagging off the government now, then but only then it will have my full support... but crass are fucking awesome
ih8thecharts 3 years ago
I agree. For the moment I am an anarchist as long as I consider it my ideal utopy. This is the attitude I consider the most appropriate at least for the moment. Promoting an armed revolution to instigate anarchy right now would be opposed the anarchy&peace ethoes at least that promoted by CRASS which I think is the soundest
Arg3punto1 3 years ago 3
punk hangers on. The clash could at least play a fucking tune. Nice line about liberals and niggers thou'
stukasoverdisney 3 years ago
oh my god The clash look so fucking lame wankstains
MOBRIEN1234567 3 years ago
"Anarchy and Freedom is what i want"
fuck yea, i love crass
riotgrungegurl 3 years ago 4
BLACK or White
Punx Unite!!!!
KelferMookie 3 years ago 8
Hate to say this
but.......
you're forgetting other minorities.
smileyface731 3 years ago
dude it's a punk rock saying...
KelferMookie 3 years ago 2
nice video :)
Shley641 3 years ago
chewn!!
djsmartmonkey 3 years ago
"Bigotry and blindness, a Marxist con."
Talk to a punk today and they'll tell you how cool it is to be a communist, and how awesome it would be to beat up a skin. Fucking tools.
MrJowee 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
ya its sad that most of todays struggles are lost to thoughtless and lazy ways of life such as communism
Mormonpuke 3 years ago
The only tool around here is you you fuckwit
Uptoyourfacelads 3 years ago 5
"Left wing violence, right wing violence, you can stuff the lot!"
Obviously you've never talked to a "punk" before.
MrJowee 3 years ago
CI have talked to plenty of "punks" despite your "obvious knowledge"C
Crass were saved from a severe beating by the nazi BM by "left-wing violence" in Conway Hall in 1979. This song was written about the incident in their bourgeois shock/horror.
Uptoyourfacelads 3 years ago 2
me and every punk i no wouldnt say that.
wailingcrab 3 years ago
Dont speak for other people
yousuck62 3 years ago
If its fascism with bush and blair why were they lawfully voted in by the people?? just a simple question oxyroxymoron not being cheeky just wondering what your basis is for calling them facist??
M4Nmbr56 3 years ago
well, there's some issues with the results of the 2000 election if you recall, Bush won on a technicality instead