The guys in this video are stupid. Joe Satriani didn't go after Coldplay because they had "deeper pockets". He just wanted recognition and appreciation and was angry at the fact that they made millions and a grammy off of ripping off a song that was important to him since If I Could Fly was written for his wife. He gave his settlement money to charity, so there.
@goodygoody23 hey man listen it doesn't matter what you listen to ,whether its underground or mainstream doesnt determine how good the music is either. What matters is that people recognize the beauty of music whether it's plagiarized or not as long as we can all come together and just have a good time listening and appreciating. So can you please stop acting like a pretentious hipster and quit contradicting your own opinions on others people's taste in music. :)
COLDPLAY are gods ... 50 million records sold worldwide, one of the best selling artists of the 2000's all of there sonds are multi platnium albums over 15 grammy nominations over 4 albums....
satch or joe idk? sold what 8 or 9 million i mean he is a great gutair player no doubt probobly the best but he is/ will never be better than coldplay and viva la vida sounds way better than "if i could fly" so deal with it and enjoy both there music
@imagodonutube The amount of albums you have sold does NOT determine the quality of your music. Dream Theater is one of the most musically advanced bands in the world and they've only sold about 20 million albums. How dare you say those posers are better than the great Joe Satriani. Go listen to your mainstream music with your mainstream friends somewhere else. I hope you don't call yourself a musician.
@imagodonutube deal with what, you're wrong :D deal with it. hundreds of legendary bands, but satch gave a NEW way of making music and technique on a diff level. Coldplay? LMAO history will forget them, guitarists in 200 years will know Joe.
It does kinda bother me that this has come up. I personally like Coldplay, and I have for about seven years. The sad part is that their first two albums "Parachutes" and "A Rush of Blood to the Head" were absolutely great, and the songs that were on those albums, in my opinion were their best. They were all completely original. I feel like they have become less wary of the repercussions from "borrowing without asking" since they have tremendous amounts of leverage now that they are hugely famous
SHAME the lawyer couldnt get the right facts about the Beach Boys - Chuck Berry song. It wasnt California Girls that Chuck was given credit for but Surfin USA !
Coldplay-Satriani-Verdes-Stevens Viva La Vida Plagiarism? even Gunther jajaja
check out this: /watch?v=JA68jtI0T5k
Just 4 the record i like J Satch, i do but he is a guitar player, Coldplay is a band
firstly - Viva La Vida is a far superior song. secondly - not similar enough at all for the prosecution to go any further. thirdly - Coldplay have always been plagarists, they take great songs and make them better, thats why we love them!
How can anyone claim ownership of a chord sequence? And only four chords at that? Does Satch think he was the first person to put those four chords together? Ever heard of Bach? Mozart, Vivaldi ? Schubert? Or The Beatles? I bet they all used that sequence somewhere, in some way or another. And the Coldplay sequence isn't even the same, just similar! What an arrogant dick!
@stringmeupscotty1 It's not just the chord progression; it is the melody, harmony and melodic rhythm of that section... even the tempo is nearly identical. If the Satch version had words, I'm sure Cloneplay would have copied those as well.
@stringmeupscotty1 dude , you have no idea about music.. i swear.. and your argument is stupid, theres only 12 notes and yet countless songs that dont have exactly the same atributes.. study before you sound like an idiot, just droping names like Bach and Mozart doesnt give you a point at all!
@Pierceher don't tell me what I know about music, knobhead. I've been teaching it for thirty years. If you knew anything about music you'd know that actually a great deal of music does share the same attributes, e.g the use of the II - V - I sequence in jazz, the Prhyigian mode in Flamenco etc. I'm not just dropping names wanker. This debate is just populated by idiot Satch fans trying to defend their hero. He's just another shmuck, playing to a formula, cos it sells albums. Who did he copy?
@Pierceher There you go again, talking out of your anus. Actually guitar and bass and theory to grade 8 + Diploma level. Did I ever say I actually liked Coldplay? No. Seems you can't read either...
@stringmeupscotty1 If you have been teaching music for so long then do a harmonic and melodic analysis, you will see that the chord progression are near the same just one of the versions uses a substitute chord. The tempo are the same and they have the same rhythm/meter. also if you look at the melody they have the exact same contour, with most of the melodic patterns being the exact same. Also I'm a music student about to graduate with a masters in piano performance and music theory.
@stringmeupscotty1 chord sequence and chord progression arnt the same thing. if you really think that, you either havnt been teaching music for 30 years(or at all for that matter), or you have been teaching for that long and youre just terrible at it.
@Butterpants1987 well if you want to define your terms I'll define mine. Splitting hairs won't win you an argument though (assuming you have something relevant to add to the argument). I think it's pretty clear that I'm talking about the chords in the two songs at the centre of the debate? Yes? Had you worked that one out?
@stringmeupscotty1 just sayin. you tried to argue the fact that every artist re-uses chord sequences which isnt the same thing as copying a chord progression and is completely irrelevant. so why is it that somebody who used an irrelevant argument earlier calling somebody else out for not saying anything relevant(my argument was relevant by the way. chord progressions and chord sequences are not the same thing, making your earlier argument irrelevant).
@stringmeupscotty1 btw, im going to assume its the latter of the two scenarios i mentioned earlier. youre probably just a horrible teacher judging by your idiocy.
@Butterpants1987 Clearly you have nothing concrete to add to the debate, since you resort to stupid insults. How old are you? Nine? You still haven't defined what you take to be the difference between a sequence and a progression. Define your terms or go to bed.
EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE F**K UP!I HAPPEN TO LIKE BOTH OF THEM.SO WHAT IF COLDPLAY JUST HAPPEN TO SOUND SIMMLIAR TO SATRIANI.WHAT IF IT WAS A COINCIDENCE.I MEAN STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS POINTLESS DEBATE.ALSO STOP SAYING COLDPLAY IS BETTER THAN SATRIANI OR SATRIANI IS BETTER THAN COLPLAY.EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MUSIC ITS CALLED HAVING A PERSONAL OPINION.CANT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THESE ARTISTS DIDNT MAKE THESE SONGS SO U CAN DEBATE ABOUT THEM.THEY WROTE THEM SO THAT U CAN ENJOY THEM.
Satriani has more talent in his fucking pinky than the product everyone is referring to as Coldplay. And all of you useless Coldplay fans, shouldn't you be off being mellow and artistic somewhere? Filming plastic bags blowing around in the wind and being generally irritating and mystical?
@boblawblaws604 it's ignorant for you to make generalizations about peoples' tastes. coldplay is actually a very talented group, and not exactly "mainstream" at all. honestly, viva is one of my least fav songs by them, they have much better. idk what's up with this song, because coldplay proved that they don't need to rip anybody off to make a good song.
is no for the money, is for creativity, this pendejos go traveling for the wordl saying look at the song we wrote, and the worst are the fans saying this estupidos wrote a nice song and worst of the worst, is they give awards for the fuc.... song VIVA LA VIDA QUE LES DEN POR CUL.. PINCHE OJETES LADRONES SE PARECEN A LOS POLITICO MEXICANOS DE TRANASAS JAJAJAJAA
the songs are incredibly similar but i have a hard time believing that the members of coldplay listen to satch, furthermore listen to satch and try to be inspired by him. Most importantly though the satch song is not very original in both harmony and melody. Satch wasnt the first person to play a VI VII III I progression either.... thousands have done it in all sorts of music. I personally say both songs suck, are incredibly unoriginal, and satch is an asshole to take it that far
@ynot69her i agree with you that I doubt Coldplay ever listened to Satriani, let alone copied him... I don't think the artists share very many of the same fans, so really the songs could exist in their separate worlds (pop world and instrumental guitar music world) with no real problems, but no, he had to sue them haha
Patenting rhythm and note order is like patenting integers, we might as well start patenting air! and paying a levy for breathing. Ok, I might be missing something, but where is the smoking gun in this analysis?
chord sequence? tempo? - if they're gonna judge on this they might as well have a template so people have a clear indication of the dividing line between guiding inspiration and plagarism, it might be way off, it just sounds that a reasonable doubt is easy to hold here.
To Satriani fans - accept the possibility of coincidence, I myself had written a song that sounds really similar to Pink Floyd's Happiest Days Of Our Lives before listening to Pink Floyd's The Wall. And it's 12 notes, there is the possibility of coincidence and this is relevant
To Coldplay fans - Please do not say "colplay is better", they're both professional musicians/bands and have their own DIFFERENT art (same for Satriani fans saying "coldplay is shit").
haha this s funny xD ppl who dosn't like coldplay have the right to choose... Coldplay is a great band and probably their lastest album is not what you guys called music cause its a little 'POP' and all that but honestly coldplay desrve all the succes they have and like chris says 'I'm really sorry but its not true' and that's aout it i bet these guy is a great musician but he is still not better then Coldplay, this guy only wants to make publicity to him self with all this..
the only reason that coldplay might be a bit more famous than satch is that some people dont apprieciate the awesome guitar skills that satch executes.
The thing is, people who like Coldplay, don't, "Like," Music. They like, "PopCulture." They like what is, "Deemed as," preferred by the mass media and by the greater collection of society. They can't appreciate the depth of what Satriani is about, or even think for themselves for that matter. They probably don't like Jazz either, and they might not even know of folks like Bob Dylan or any artist who inspires. They're just sheep who invest in trivial dumbed-down crap.
@boblawblaws604 not true at all, I'm a Miles Davis head among many others. With your Logic if satch sold 30 million albums he would be part of that Mass Media you speak of. Coldplay has quite a few songs I do like "Such a Rush" ,"Trouble" and "Yellow" I don't see why my liking a few songs of a major selling group that I am now a sheep. I love good music like anybody else but there is something different for everybody. Bob Dylan was the man in his day though, Hendrix too!!
@boblawblaws604 What a retarded assumption. I heard of Satriani before all this crap came up, I like Satriani, (surfing with the alien is one of my favourite songs) I like Eric Clapton, Stevie Vai, Hendrix, SRV, Joe Bonnamassa, Bob Dylan, Kansas, Boston, T-Rex, The Verve, Oasis Reef XTC, Led Zep etc etc but I also like Coldplay.... Pop culture dosen't fit with Coldplay, it's more suited with Lady GaGa etc ... Coldplay copied Satriani and Satriani copied Enanitos Verdes. End of.
@boblawblaws604 People like different music you idiot XD Coldplay happens to make music which more people like. Who the hell gives a crap on who people like just listen to music you prefer without crying about more popular bands. Sheesh... Let me tell you now that I know for a fact that Coldplay has inspired MUCH more then you think.
@boblawblaws604 thats not true. i like colplay, but dont like alot of pop music. i dont really like satch, hes a good player, but i dontlike his music. i also listen to mostly, 60s 70s and REAL music. so thats not really true
@boblawblaws604 I'm not particularly a fan of Coldplay but to say their stuff is dumbed down crap is completely misguided. I have been a Satriani fan for over 20 years and I think his law suit was silly. Even if there is a resemblance between the 2 songs, I doubt Coldplay ever heard of Satch or his song... they appeal to 2 completely different audiences. Stupid!
@boblawblaws604 That's a stupid stereotype.... Coldplay is one of my favorite bands, but I also appreciate other bands and artists like Bob Dylan or the Beatles....(and if you think Coldplay is dumbed down crap, you should open your eyes, many if their songs have amazing lyrics that are deep and meaningful)
@boblawblaws604 I'm a third year music theory student and though I respect your love for Satriani (I love him too), I love Coldplay. This is a silly generalization.
@boblawblaws604 youre acting like youre idea of good music is god. you know what opinions are? you can't just say we're wrong for liking coldplay... you my friend need to realize that you are not the center of the universe.
@boblawblaws604 I dont agree at all. Coldplay are my favorite band but i love lots of diffrent bands from very different styles. For example i love the beatles, beegees, earth wind fire and loads others. I also like Satriani's song aswell.
@boblawblaws604 Oh BULLSHIT. completely and udder trite. You make assumtions on millions of people and clump them altogether and say, "If so and so likes this group then they must be stupid or have no taste", and that is an asinie comment at minimum.
I just don't believe what you just wrote. You may not like Satch, but you statement is just plain wrong. It's not his guitar skill that makes me think really high of him as a musician - it is his perfection of painting an emotion with just sound without the need to use a single word.
I just don't believe what you just wrote. You may not like Satch, but you statement is just plain wrong. It's not his guitar skill that makes me think really high of him as a musician - it is his perfection of painting an emotion with just sound without the need to use a single word.
@razorbackriff You obviously know nothing, people listen to music which sounds good in their ears, you must be a retard who thinks everyone in the world MUST appreciate awesome guitar skills, the facts are, if you don't sound good enough to grab the larger crowds attention, you aren't good enough. Worlds unfair but that's how it is.
who cares if coldplay is more famous? doesn't mean they are more talented...just look at the ever so famous and untalented jonas brothers miley cyrus the list goes on. they still copied another musician regardless of fame...
Ive seen so many ridiculous stupid copyright allegations (most by metallica sadly...) but this is probably one of the few cases that actually make sense. I don't listen to much of either artists but from what I heard is that Joe Satriani wrote his song about his wife that he loved so much and for some mediocre rock band to steal his work must piss him off.
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Just saying, if joe satriani is a legend like people say he is...how come i never heard of him? My friends never heard of him and neither did my parents. mostly we listen to metal and rock and pop coldplay especially. ^_^
@dragonbanes you may never heard of him cause you only look for what the media put in front of you....He is one of the most important guitar playrs ever and also have one of the best guitar schools ever! If you really loves rock you may start to listen G3, Dream theater or bands like that...you'll see that in G3 satriani use to play with petrucci and steve vai bro....
That is the reason why Coldplay took his song,cause they are more only popular then The legend Joe Satriani..he is a genius..omg you never heard for him,ur crazy he sold about 2o million records...he was a guitar instuctor to many famous musicians(Kirk Hammet-Metallica,Steve Vai,Tom Morello,..and many many more....)ur mum and dad dont know anythig about that ask them...thx
probabaly becasue you your friends and your parents know shit...if you dont know who joe satriani is, then you really dont know much about music, specially guitar
@pacog92 And you, my friend, should know more about spelling before you argue knowledge about anything. If you can't complete a logical sentence without 'shit' written in it, then I wouldn't want to trust your music advice. The fact is, Coldplay writes tons of music. Actually, Coldplay was inspired by Brian Eno to write Viva La Vida (the song in particularly and other collaborations from the Album) It's a common chord progression, and it's in just about every album you hear in modern day music.
@pacog92 And the riff isn't all that hard to conjure up either. It's 5 notes, and Satriani's version adds in 2 more notes and ends with another added note. Sure there are similarities, but the end guitar solo in Mark Knopfler's 'Silvertown Blues' is almost exactly the same to Fleetwood Mac's 'Go Your Own Way' guitar solo, and they didn't sue each other over that did they? Viva La Vida has that riff throughout the whole song, 'If I Could Fly' has more than 'just' those chord progressions.
@Pandazorr No it's not the truth. Joe is as good as anyone out there. I was never a huge fan of his music myself, until I heard Chickenfoot, and realized how versatile he is. How could you say he is "nothing" compared to anyone else out there? There is no one out there that you could say was much better. Different? Yes...but not better.
@pacog92 a lot of non musicians find him hard to listen to. you gotta understand coldplay songs are really easy to understand and sometimes way over produced like songs they play in dance clubs, and that really turns people on apparently. but satch is a real pro.
The fact that the Backstreet Boys sold more albums than such jazz/blues milestones as Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Herbie Hancock or Etta James doesn't make them better musicians.
Theft progression from newest to oldest: Coldplay's "Vida La Viva->The Songs I Didn't Write by Creaky Boards-> If I Could Fly by Joe Satriani->Frances Limon by Enanites Verdes->Ding Dong Song by Gunther->J'en al Marre by Alizee->Hearts by Marty Balin->Foreigner Suites by Cat Steven->Dirty Diaper Blues by Baby Cheeks. Which seems fitting because the whole thing stinks.
Jesus christ, are you people seriously talking about this still? They settled this like five months ago, coldplay payed an anonymous ammount of cash to Satriani, that probably was several hundereds of thousands of dollars. The case is over, forget about it.
Astralpua, for someone who studied music his whole life you sound pretty ignorant to me. Joe Satriani didn't get his fame, because people like you don't get the music. That sucks, but it's the way it is. But if you like Coldplay's track, you should thank Joe for writing it, or at least agree it's good too, otherwise what's your point? They're the same song. Note for note. The "boring guitar melody", is the same as the vocal melody in CP's track. Stop being biased, it helps no one.
i think most of you like coldplay because your friends do LOL, Im a guitarist, Pretty much all guitarist have at least heard of him, and ya we can listen to a solo forever when it has feeling, coldplay is doing whatever it takes to get popular lol
I'd never heard of Satriani before this lawsuit either . . . but I don't go around being proud of my ignorance. Just because you've never heard of someone before doesn't mean they are no good. This whole thing reminds me of when Hendrix (innovator) was boo'd because the crowd was expecting to see The Monkees (pre-packaged). Go ask your mom who those guys are.
You obviously haven't studied music, you've been following the boring, ignorant, monotonous, inexpressive culture that latter generations have spawned.
Music is an art form, and expression of peoples feelings that understanding, down to earth people respect and enjoy, whether its a guitarist playing all night long or somebody playing a tuba for 2 minutes.
The modern take on music appears to be for fame and money, and is so badly written and inexpressive it shouldn't be called music at all.
Right! Music is expression one's emotions or feelings. "If I Could Fly" is freedom beneath one's wings. It is joy, happiness. Coldplay, I feel was in the wrong here; some of the band's members openly admitted to copying parts of music they've listened to. To me, if someone copied my music, I'd be like, "Oh my God! How could these monsters steal my soul, my life, my heart." Its THAT big of a deal. Its thieves stealing money and sacrificing a hostage to get away.
Screw you. Satriani puts out more than Paganini ever did. He does live clinics. Do you think that Paganini would have done such a thing? I think not. Music is an art form; the guitarist has a much more difficult job, than say, the violinist. Sure, a violin has to focus on intonation and bow work, but what does it mean if there isn't any heart or feeling? The guitar brings life and power to a song that needs it, more than back then. Don't call yourself a musician ever again. Music is expression.
Look I'm not going to argue with you guys...neither of you has probably even studied at a music school, or played another instrument except your electric guitar...the point is you are too ignorant to understand therefore too ignorant to insult...I feel like I'm trying to tell little kids that there's no Santa...so go open a theory book you wankers!!
@BrownsvilleNY4 You do realize that Paganini was a composer..right? Meaning he wrote more than Violin he wrote an entire symphony. Besides you can't compare an Artist and a composer from two different times. If Paganini lived around our time he probably would far surpass most Artists including Satriani. Being a musician during his time was much more tougher than it is today. And being an excellent musician in his time was near impossible. Musicians in our time have more to work with and to learn
Pussy pussy pussy pussy.....chillax dude...we're just theorizing here...although Satriani is a pussy! Who wants to listen to solo guitar all night anyway? Fucking boring as hell...same arrangements...a bunch of riffs and a crappy melody line...this guy owes his fame to Coldplay...before this scandal I'd never heard of him...so he should be thanking them
@all stupid coldplay fanboys who cant be objective enough to realize common sense: viva la vida is VERY similar to the satriani song, they have the same tempo, same groove, same chords, same melody.... not saying it was intentional but if i where in satrianis position i would have done the same thing.
@Astralpua Man this guy doesnt owe any Fame to Coldplay. Turst me Im not a fan of his at all. And it is boring. But man growing up this guy was always huge. He was like the guitar god. Constantly on the cover of any music magizine.
Only like 4 notes are the same, that's an overreaction, an exaggeration, Joe didn't steal a thing, and with all due respect I don't think, he (J.S.) even knows who they (E. V.) are.
I'm saying that you're a freakin fanboy. Coldplay is a group of freakin pansy, plagiarist, douche bags who have no musical talent and rely on their fans to rate their songs as "existential reality", because their lyrics make no sense.
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satch's if you i could fly are emotions flitered through lots of machismo guitar solos. Coldplay's version is profound, heartfelt, indie sound. The two sounds similar but yet are worlds apart. Just as a mere 2 percent gene difference makes the leap between an rowdy chimp and a cerebral man.
Who cares how the "emotions are filtered"...bottom line is that the chord progression, timing, just about everything is the same ! ! ! ! ! !.....the guys from cold play are shitheads if they don't step up and say: our bad ! !
damn, i wish satch (my guitar hero) didnt settle out of court. why did he have to do that? Shouldnt he have opted to fight it out at court if it was really about principle (as he said)? damn i wish he didnt take the money. I'm so disappointed. maybe he didnt have a good case and he was afraid it would have not gone down well at court i guess.
Cause he's a pussy!!! Did u hear what they said? Satriani wanted to sue Gunther but Coldplay have more money...it has nothing to do with principles!!! He just wanted money...so stop fucking pretending he's a victim cause he's a dick like everybody else!!!
If you knew a girl named Hellen keller, she read this one book when she was very young. After she lost her senses, she wrote a book just like the one she read and was in trouble for plagiarism.
This is the same basic principle. Maybe Coldplay was listening to A song similar to Satriani's and came up with a different melody to go with it. If you look at the video The Melody Conspiracy, here on Youtube, you will find it's very overused.
Any sensible musician will say that it is exaggerated. The resemblance is surprising but the coincidence is far from being improbable. I am guitarist and several years ago I composed a theme of 9 notes completely similar to a phrasing from the piano concerto #3 of Rachmaninov. I had still never listened to this artist before! By chance, I 'm not so famous than Coldplay, I believe that one would judge me systematically!
It may have been an accident, however it doesn't matter... If the melody is identical (rhythm, and melody target note in their relative key for a whole phrase,) Coldplay would have to get Satriani's permission to use it.
It's not really that big of a deal as long as Coldplay does the right thing once it's been brought to their attention.
Copyright doesn't care the intent of the infringement... it doesn't care if it was an accidental or on purpose... nor who's more poplar than who
well i dont really care... emm thanks for writing that much as my comment reply but who cares, do u even know when this debate started? its kinda long ago if u dont know, so im kinda over it now..? so i dont care
wow heylee congratulations you're now offically a retard for basing your logic on album sales. satch is one of the few remaining talented musicians. coldplay sucks. period
P.S. "Sani-tanny"? O please at least come up with a good insult....
And that is, release 22 albums, and still have people care about who they are. Joe didn't have "two good albums". All his music is good, it's just that those two probably only spiked the interest of the greater public. The only case you rested was the fact you're an ignorant fool.
As said before, to play Satriani songs it does take skill. I've been playing guitar for 4 years, and I still can't play all of Joe's stuff without serious practice time. It took 3min to learn Viva La Vida for school.
I'm ignorant? oh pleaze...so what, it still only took 4 albums. So what it took you 4 years to learn his song, that doesn't mean anything about sounding good...
It's not a matter of sounding good here. If anything, you just said Joe sounds good too, because Viva La Vida is a near damn copy of Joe's song "If I Could Fly". Thank you for that btw. I'm just saying, Joe sounds good, and is talented. Coldplay sounds good too, don't get me wrong, but they're just not as talented as Joe. It doesn't require skill to sound good, but people thinking sounding good is skill. For all we know, Coldplay doesn't even write their own music, but I am unsure of this.
HeyLee14, you're pretty annoying. Just because you like Coldplay doesn't mean you can take their side and be stupid about it. Listen up, there is a video on youtube floating around that has VERY good evidence pointing out obvious points in the song where Coldplay's song is the same as Joe's. Okay Joe didn't sell as many albums, I'm sorry he didn't join/make a mainstream band? 22 Albums, years of experience, INSANE talent. Singing is not a way to measure skill. I'd like Coldplay to make 22 albums
im a fan of both , BUT coldplay have 100% lifted this here even if it may have been unintentional , for which ever memer of coldplay brought it in, ..... joe deserves his cut without a shadow of a doubt
The question is:Who is Chris Martin?Pretty simple,a thief with no talent at all,and who steals songs from other artists to become famous and rich.Now it's time to pay,bastard!!
Stop trolling like a fag. Satriani is a master of guitar and is hard to listen if you are a dumbass. Coldplay plays their songs like all pop-noobs. now STFU
I've heard of Satriani - he made a famous album called "Surfing with the Alien" in 1989. The last decent thing he made was in 2000, the Extremist. Coldplay are one of the most popular bands in the world - and better still, they can actually sing.
he only went after coldplay because they have money! bam! there's the rub right there!
TheMagicOrca 2 weeks ago
The guys in this video are stupid. Joe Satriani didn't go after Coldplay because they had "deeper pockets". He just wanted recognition and appreciation and was angry at the fact that they made millions and a grammy off of ripping off a song that was important to him since If I Could Fly was written for his wife. He gave his settlement money to charity, so there.
xx2n26 1 month ago
@goodygoody23 hey man listen it doesn't matter what you listen to ,whether its underground or mainstream doesnt determine how good the music is either. What matters is that people recognize the beauty of music whether it's plagiarized or not as long as we can all come together and just have a good time listening and appreciating. So can you please stop acting like a pretentious hipster and quit contradicting your own opinions on others people's taste in music. :)
MrTheking19951 3 months ago
There's nothing wrong with copying ...as long as you hide it well enough
RPFS2008 4 months ago
Joe has more talent in one of his ass hairs than coldplay have collectively! Case closed... period... end of story...
TheYostinator 5 months ago
COLDPLAY are gods ... 50 million records sold worldwide, one of the best selling artists of the 2000's all of there sonds are multi platnium albums over 15 grammy nominations over 4 albums....
satch or joe idk? sold what 8 or 9 million i mean he is a great gutair player no doubt probobly the best but he is/ will never be better than coldplay and viva la vida sounds way better than "if i could fly" so deal with it and enjoy both there music
imagodonutube 6 months ago
@imagodonutube The amount of albums you have sold does NOT determine the quality of your music. Dream Theater is one of the most musically advanced bands in the world and they've only sold about 20 million albums. How dare you say those posers are better than the great Joe Satriani. Go listen to your mainstream music with your mainstream friends somewhere else. I hope you don't call yourself a musician.
goodygoody23 5 months ago in playlist joe satriani
@imagodonutube deal with what, you're wrong :D deal with it. hundreds of legendary bands, but satch gave a NEW way of making music and technique on a diff level. Coldplay? LMAO history will forget them, guitarists in 200 years will know Joe.
TheLydianRocks 1 month ago
It does kinda bother me that this has come up. I personally like Coldplay, and I have for about seven years. The sad part is that their first two albums "Parachutes" and "A Rush of Blood to the Head" were absolutely great, and the songs that were on those albums, in my opinion were their best. They were all completely original. I feel like they have become less wary of the repercussions from "borrowing without asking" since they have tremendous amounts of leverage now that they are hugely famous
PrismaticBlack 6 months ago
no entendi y eso es desesperanteee!!! yo hablo español no ingles!!
que aiguen me diga que es lo que disen
MrArgamonte 7 months ago
SHAME the lawyer couldnt get the right facts about the Beach Boys - Chuck Berry song. It wasnt California Girls that Chuck was given credit for but Surfin USA !
Stupid sod
45rpmSINGLES 7 months ago
who won??
1998metalhead1 8 months ago
Coldplay-Satriani-Verdes-Stevens Viva La Vida Plagiarism? even Gunther jajaja
check out this: /watch?v=JA68jtI0T5k
Just 4 the record i like J Satch, i do but he is a guitar player, Coldplay is a band
firstly - Viva La Vida is a far superior song. secondly - not similar enough at all for the prosecution to go any further. thirdly - Coldplay have always been plagarists, they take great songs and make them better, thats why we love them!
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SixLips93 8 months ago
How can anyone claim ownership of a chord sequence? And only four chords at that? Does Satch think he was the first person to put those four chords together? Ever heard of Bach? Mozart, Vivaldi ? Schubert? Or The Beatles? I bet they all used that sequence somewhere, in some way or another. And the Coldplay sequence isn't even the same, just similar! What an arrogant dick!
stringmeupscotty1 9 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1
watch?v=YJWLfpOecyE
mattallica464 8 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 It's not just the chord progression; it is the melody, harmony and melodic rhythm of that section... even the tempo is nearly identical. If the Satch version had words, I'm sure Cloneplay would have copied those as well.
iDjentity 8 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 dude , you have no idea about music.. i swear.. and your argument is stupid, theres only 12 notes and yet countless songs that dont have exactly the same atributes.. study before you sound like an idiot, just droping names like Bach and Mozart doesnt give you a point at all!
Pierceher 8 months ago
@Pierceher don't tell me what I know about music, knobhead. I've been teaching it for thirty years. If you knew anything about music you'd know that actually a great deal of music does share the same attributes, e.g the use of the II - V - I sequence in jazz, the Prhyigian mode in Flamenco etc. I'm not just dropping names wanker. This debate is just populated by idiot Satch fans trying to defend their hero. He's just another shmuck, playing to a formula, cos it sells albums. Who did he copy?
stringmeupscotty1 8 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1
teaching kids Mary had a little lamb for 30 years!
Satriani has more talent in his pinky than all the Coldplay members, yet manages to stay humble and friendly..
nothing to discuss.. i mean you like Coldplay!! 30 years and you still suck!
Pierceher 8 months ago
@Pierceher There you go again, talking out of your anus. Actually guitar and bass and theory to grade 8 + Diploma level. Did I ever say I actually liked Coldplay? No. Seems you can't read either...
eggymoo 8 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 If you have been teaching music for so long then do a harmonic and melodic analysis, you will see that the chord progression are near the same just one of the versions uses a substitute chord. The tempo are the same and they have the same rhythm/meter. also if you look at the melody they have the exact same contour, with most of the melodic patterns being the exact same. Also I'm a music student about to graduate with a masters in piano performance and music theory.
masterorionful 7 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 chord sequence and chord progression arnt the same thing. if you really think that, you either havnt been teaching music for 30 years(or at all for that matter), or you have been teaching for that long and youre just terrible at it.
Butterpants1987 6 months ago
@Butterpants1987 well if you want to define your terms I'll define mine. Splitting hairs won't win you an argument though (assuming you have something relevant to add to the argument). I think it's pretty clear that I'm talking about the chords in the two songs at the centre of the debate? Yes? Had you worked that one out?
stringmeupscotty1 6 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 just sayin. you tried to argue the fact that every artist re-uses chord sequences which isnt the same thing as copying a chord progression and is completely irrelevant. so why is it that somebody who used an irrelevant argument earlier calling somebody else out for not saying anything relevant(my argument was relevant by the way. chord progressions and chord sequences are not the same thing, making your earlier argument irrelevant).
Butterpants1987 6 months ago
@stringmeupscotty1 btw, im going to assume its the latter of the two scenarios i mentioned earlier. youre probably just a horrible teacher judging by your idiocy.
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eggymoo 6 months ago
@Butterpants1987 Clearly you have nothing concrete to add to the debate, since you resort to stupid insults. How old are you? Nine? You still haven't defined what you take to be the difference between a sequence and a progression. Define your terms or go to bed.
stringmeupscotty1 6 months ago
Wow. Heated debate happening here. I like Satch and Coldplay. I like both songs too.
srogers500 10 months ago
i use to like coldplay, but not anymore..
TheEurasia23 10 months ago
SATRIANI = ABSOLUTE GENIUS ........
coldplay = horseshit.
tetrisskinny 10 months ago
EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE F**K UP!I HAPPEN TO LIKE BOTH OF THEM.SO WHAT IF COLDPLAY JUST HAPPEN TO SOUND SIMMLIAR TO SATRIANI.WHAT IF IT WAS A COINCIDENCE.I MEAN STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS POINTLESS DEBATE.ALSO STOP SAYING COLDPLAY IS BETTER THAN SATRIANI OR SATRIANI IS BETTER THAN COLPLAY.EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT TASTE IN MUSIC ITS CALLED HAVING A PERSONAL OPINION.CANT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THESE ARTISTS DIDNT MAKE THESE SONGS SO U CAN DEBATE ABOUT THEM.THEY WROTE THEM SO THAT U CAN ENJOY THEM.
loverofmusic113 11 months ago
Satriani has more talent in his fucking pinky than the product everyone is referring to as Coldplay. And all of you useless Coldplay fans, shouldn't you be off being mellow and artistic somewhere? Filming plastic bags blowing around in the wind and being generally irritating and mystical?
MissEmmerB 1 year ago 5
@MissEmmerB Satriani has copied "Enanitos Verdes - France Limon". Don't try to defend him, he's as wrong as Coldplay. If you don't believe, check it.
JustGu002 1 month ago
@MissEmmerB The amount of bullshit comments from both sides is just ridiculous...move on people.
TheMagicOrca 2 weeks ago
@boblawblaws604 it's ignorant for you to make generalizations about peoples' tastes. coldplay is actually a very talented group, and not exactly "mainstream" at all. honestly, viva is one of my least fav songs by them, they have much better. idk what's up with this song, because coldplay proved that they don't need to rip anybody off to make a good song.
EvanescentMelody 1 year ago
is no for the money, is for creativity, this pendejos go traveling for the wordl saying look at the song we wrote, and the worst are the fans saying this estupidos wrote a nice song and worst of the worst, is they give awards for the fuc.... song VIVA LA VIDA QUE LES DEN POR CUL.. PINCHE OJETES LADRONES SE PARECEN A LOS POLITICO MEXICANOS DE TRANASAS JAJAJAJAA
sahibruben 1 year ago
And then they both stole it off Cat Stevens
WELLBRAN 1 year ago
the songs are incredibly similar but i have a hard time believing that the members of coldplay listen to satch, furthermore listen to satch and try to be inspired by him. Most importantly though the satch song is not very original in both harmony and melody. Satch wasnt the first person to play a VI VII III I progression either.... thousands have done it in all sorts of music. I personally say both songs suck, are incredibly unoriginal, and satch is an asshole to take it that far
ynot69her 1 year ago
@ynot69her i agree with you that I doubt Coldplay ever listened to Satriani, let alone copied him... I don't think the artists share very many of the same fans, so really the songs could exist in their separate worlds (pop world and instrumental guitar music world) with no real problems, but no, he had to sue them haha
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ynot69her 1 year ago
that guy is a idiot its surfin u.s.a that was a copy of sweet little sixteen not california girls
motleycrue24 1 year ago
@ilaydacoldplayer pop culture shit head don't say satriani "Sucks" just say it is not your taste
adriprotux 1 year ago
@ilaydacoldplayer pop culture shit head
adriprotux 1 year ago
Patenting rhythm and note order is like patenting integers, we might as well start patenting air! and paying a levy for breathing. Ok, I might be missing something, but where is the smoking gun in this analysis?
chord sequence? tempo? - if they're gonna judge on this they might as well have a template so people have a clear indication of the dividing line between guiding inspiration and plagarism, it might be way off, it just sounds that a reasonable doubt is easy to hold here.
macabre2007 1 year ago
@macabre2007 have you actually listened to both songs??? they are exatly the same!!!!
slashy04 1 year ago
Pythagorus should sue everybody since he came up with the musical scales.
AhYaOk 1 year ago
To Satriani fans - accept the possibility of coincidence, I myself had written a song that sounds really similar to Pink Floyd's Happiest Days Of Our Lives before listening to Pink Floyd's The Wall. And it's 12 notes, there is the possibility of coincidence and this is relevant
To Coldplay fans - Please do not say "colplay is better", they're both professional musicians/bands and have their own DIFFERENT art (same for Satriani fans saying "coldplay is shit").
Dudisse 1 year ago
haha this s funny xD ppl who dosn't like coldplay have the right to choose... Coldplay is a great band and probably their lastest album is not what you guys called music cause its a little 'POP' and all that but honestly coldplay desrve all the succes they have and like chris says 'I'm really sorry but its not true' and that's aout it i bet these guy is a great musician but he is still not better then Coldplay, this guy only wants to make publicity to him self with all this..
coldplaylover1 1 year ago 3
joe copyed cat THE END now stfu
hiimanub 1 year ago
Brian Eno was the one who was in charge to make Coldplay more poppy, massive , even changed their clothes, perhaps he brought in the song to work
on it , and the band didnt know about its origins by the way , Coldplay`s Yellow sounds like a step down Erasure`s Little Respect, anyone agrees?
nicodurancomes 1 year ago
Copyright. Duh. This thing has to disapear someday
redbenus 1 year ago
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yes, they do
ilgallorock 1 year ago
the only reason that coldplay might be a bit more famous than satch is that some people dont apprieciate the awesome guitar skills that satch executes.
razorbackriff 1 year ago 28
@razorbackriff ...
The thing is, people who like Coldplay, don't, "Like," Music. They like, "PopCulture." They like what is, "Deemed as," preferred by the mass media and by the greater collection of society. They can't appreciate the depth of what Satriani is about, or even think for themselves for that matter. They probably don't like Jazz either, and they might not even know of folks like Bob Dylan or any artist who inspires. They're just sheep who invest in trivial dumbed-down crap.
boblawblaws604 1 year ago 33
@boblawblaws604 thats true
razorbackriff 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604
Couldn't say better.
Thumbs up
xxqcwaslukxx 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 I would certainly agree with you to some extent, but I would say that there are people who just have a bad taste in music haha
ledzeprocks21 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 Satch's music is from the soul. Coldplay's music is popularity based.
manzilla01 1 year ago 8
@manzilla01 That's a bit of a broad stroke isn't it?
TheMagicOrca 2 weeks ago
@boblawblaws604 SO RIGHT!!!!
STARREDGE 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 not true at all, I'm a Miles Davis head among many others. With your Logic if satch sold 30 million albums he would be part of that Mass Media you speak of. Coldplay has quite a few songs I do like "Such a Rush" ,"Trouble" and "Yellow" I don't see why my liking a few songs of a major selling group that I am now a sheep. I love good music like anybody else but there is something different for everybody. Bob Dylan was the man in his day though, Hendrix too!!
daxeboy9 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 What a retarded assumption. I heard of Satriani before all this crap came up, I like Satriani, (surfing with the alien is one of my favourite songs) I like Eric Clapton, Stevie Vai, Hendrix, SRV, Joe Bonnamassa, Bob Dylan, Kansas, Boston, T-Rex, The Verve, Oasis Reef XTC, Led Zep etc etc but I also like Coldplay.... Pop culture dosen't fit with Coldplay, it's more suited with Lady GaGa etc ... Coldplay copied Satriani and Satriani copied Enanitos Verdes. End of.
MegaLolburger 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 That's a hasty generalization. It is possible to enjoy both Coldplay and jazz.
SilverDragonTV 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 People like different music you idiot XD Coldplay happens to make music which more people like. Who the hell gives a crap on who people like just listen to music you prefer without crying about more popular bands. Sheesh... Let me tell you now that I know for a fact that Coldplay has inspired MUCH more then you think.
Pandazorr 1 year ago
@boblawblaws604 thats not true. i like colplay, but dont like alot of pop music. i dont really like satch, hes a good player, but i dontlike his music. i also listen to mostly, 60s 70s and REAL music. so thats not really true
turtleglobe 10 months ago
@boblawblaws604 I'm not particularly a fan of Coldplay but to say their stuff is dumbed down crap is completely misguided. I have been a Satriani fan for over 20 years and I think his law suit was silly. Even if there is a resemblance between the 2 songs, I doubt Coldplay ever heard of Satch or his song... they appeal to 2 completely different audiences. Stupid!
RedroomStudios 10 months ago
@boblawblaws604 That's a stupid stereotype.... Coldplay is one of my favorite bands, but I also appreciate other bands and artists like Bob Dylan or the Beatles....(and if you think Coldplay is dumbed down crap, you should open your eyes, many if their songs have amazing lyrics that are deep and meaningful)
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SixLips93 8 months ago
@boblawblaws604 Wow. Way to generalize people, assdouche.
gissiezify 8 months ago
@boblawblaws604 you forgot they rarely play an instrument or have the discipline to actually study music :)
Pierceher 8 months ago
@boblawblaws604 I'm a third year music theory student and though I respect your love for Satriani (I love him too), I love Coldplay. This is a silly generalization.
pinksynth 7 months ago
@boblawblaws604 youre acting like youre idea of good music is god. you know what opinions are? you can't just say we're wrong for liking coldplay... you my friend need to realize that you are not the center of the universe.
007goldengun007 7 months ago
@boblawblaws604 I dont agree at all. Coldplay are my favorite band but i love lots of diffrent bands from very different styles. For example i love the beatles, beegees, earth wind fire and loads others. I also like Satriani's song aswell.
cgrant281 6 months ago
@boblawblaws604 Oh BULLSHIT. completely and udder trite. You make assumtions on millions of people and clump them altogether and say, "If so and so likes this group then they must be stupid or have no taste", and that is an asinie comment at minimum.
Janicemaxwell 5 months ago
its not about the skill ...satriani is a good guitar player but not a good songwriter. his songs are (imho) kinda boring.
seppelmk2 1 year ago
@seppelmk2
I just don't believe what you just wrote. You may not like Satch, but you statement is just plain wrong. It's not his guitar skill that makes me think really high of him as a musician - it is his perfection of painting an emotion with just sound without the need to use a single word.
Draalnexa 1 year ago
@seppelmk2
I just don't believe what you just wrote. You may not like Satch, but you statement is just plain wrong. It's not his guitar skill that makes me think really high of him as a musician - it is his perfection of painting an emotion with just sound without the need to use a single word.
Draalnexa 1 year ago
@razorbackriff You obviously know nothing, people listen to music which sounds good in their ears, you must be a retard who thinks everyone in the world MUST appreciate awesome guitar skills, the facts are, if you don't sound good enough to grab the larger crowds attention, you aren't good enough. Worlds unfair but that's how it is.
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SixLips93 8 months ago
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@razorbackriff Coldplay is a band and J Satch is a guitar player... How you compare that???
SixLips93 8 months ago
who cares if coldplay is more famous? doesn't mean they are more talented...just look at the ever so famous and untalented jonas brothers miley cyrus the list goes on. they still copied another musician regardless of fame...
exileskim09 1 year ago
@exileskim09 you're 100% right
garrethdavis 1 year ago
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@exileskim09 you're 100% right
garrethdavis 1 year ago
hardly any people care if coldplay copied slopy joe and coldplay is more famous than joe
TheSkullranger 1 year ago
Ive seen so many ridiculous stupid copyright allegations (most by metallica sadly...) but this is probably one of the few cases that actually make sense. I don't listen to much of either artists but from what I heard is that Joe Satriani wrote his song about his wife that he loved so much and for some mediocre rock band to steal his work must piss him off.
nightfireivey 1 year ago
/watch?v=fxSIAXGakuk&feature=related end of story....if your gonna choose a 4 chord progression your gonna have to expect it to be copied
microphone1991 1 year ago
joe still doesnt ring a bell :/
TheSkullranger 1 year ago
:b bleh.
bananaphoneXP 1 year ago
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Just saying, if joe satriani is a legend like people say he is...how come i never heard of him? My friends never heard of him and neither did my parents. mostly we listen to metal and rock and pop coldplay especially. ^_^
dragonbanes 1 year ago
@dragonbanes you may never heard of him cause you only look for what the media put in front of you....He is one of the most important guitar playrs ever and also have one of the best guitar schools ever! If you really loves rock you may start to listen G3, Dream theater or bands like that...you'll see that in G3 satriani use to play with petrucci and steve vai bro....
rafacorehps 1 year ago 4
That is the reason why Coldplay took his song,cause they are more only popular then The legend Joe Satriani..he is a genius..omg you never heard for him,ur crazy he sold about 2o million records...he was a guitar instuctor to many famous musicians(Kirk Hammet-Metallica,Steve Vai,Tom Morello,..and many many more....)ur mum and dad dont know anythig about that ask them...thx
janja777 1 year ago
probabaly becasue you your friends and your parents know shit...if you dont know who joe satriani is, then you really dont know much about music, specially guitar
pacog92 1 year ago 34
@pacog92 And you, my friend, should know more about spelling before you argue knowledge about anything. If you can't complete a logical sentence without 'shit' written in it, then I wouldn't want to trust your music advice. The fact is, Coldplay writes tons of music. Actually, Coldplay was inspired by Brian Eno to write Viva La Vida (the song in particularly and other collaborations from the Album) It's a common chord progression, and it's in just about every album you hear in modern day music.
franklystrange 1 year ago
@pacog92 And the riff isn't all that hard to conjure up either. It's 5 notes, and Satriani's version adds in 2 more notes and ends with another added note. Sure there are similarities, but the end guitar solo in Mark Knopfler's 'Silvertown Blues' is almost exactly the same to Fleetwood Mac's 'Go Your Own Way' guitar solo, and they didn't sue each other over that did they? Viva La Vida has that riff throughout the whole song, 'If I Could Fly' has more than 'just' those chord progressions.
franklystrange 1 year ago
@pacog92 Are you a retard? Joe Satriani is nothing compared to plenty of guitarists out there.
Pandazorr 1 year ago
@Pandazorr ...a statement like that kinda makes you look like a retard dude!
MRmotrhead 1 year ago
@MRmotrhead Retarded or not, it's the truth am I right?
Pandazorr 1 year ago
@Pandazorr No it's not the truth. Joe is as good as anyone out there. I was never a huge fan of his music myself, until I heard Chickenfoot, and realized how versatile he is. How could you say he is "nothing" compared to anyone else out there? There is no one out there that you could say was much better. Different? Yes...but not better.
MRmotrhead 1 year ago
@Pandazorr list some. Don't say Yngwei or MAB.
SleerChic 11 months ago
@pacog92 a lot of non musicians find him hard to listen to. you gotta understand coldplay songs are really easy to understand and sometimes way over produced like songs they play in dance clubs, and that really turns people on apparently. but satch is a real pro.
pakk82 7 months ago
that means u, ur friends and ur parents dont know about music! get a life!
kulasX 1 year ago
@dragonbanes
The fact that the Backstreet Boys sold more albums than such jazz/blues milestones as Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Herbie Hancock or Etta James doesn't make them better musicians.
I hope you get the point of this... ;)
falden82 1 year ago
hmm cuz u are idiot??. cuz u know nothing about music??
pietrzi 1 year ago
@dragonbanes ...... and that tells me that neither you or any of your friends play guitar!
(Electric rock guitar to be specific.) (^_^)
Professicchio 1 year ago
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Theft progression from newest to oldest: Coldplay's "Vida La Viva->The Songs I Didn't Write by Creaky Boards-> If I Could Fly by Joe Satriani->Frances Limon by Enanites Verdes->Ding Dong Song by Gunther->J'en al Marre by Alizee->Hearts by Marty Balin->Foreigner Suites by Cat Steven->Dirty Diaper Blues by Baby Cheeks. Which seems fitting because the whole thing stinks.
orlock20 1 year ago
Jesus christ, are you people seriously talking about this still? They settled this like five months ago, coldplay payed an anonymous ammount of cash to Satriani, that probably was several hundereds of thousands of dollars. The case is over, forget about it.
MistahhB 1 year ago
You can say w/e you want but cold play sucks ass :)
randomriffsrawsome 2 years ago 3
mcgill university?
muxinjam 2 years ago
mcgill is a good university... to become a lawyer mcgill is a good university....
kevenharbour 1 year ago
Astralpua, for someone who studied music his whole life you sound pretty ignorant to me. Joe Satriani didn't get his fame, because people like you don't get the music. That sucks, but it's the way it is. But if you like Coldplay's track, you should thank Joe for writing it, or at least agree it's good too, otherwise what's your point? They're the same song. Note for note. The "boring guitar melody", is the same as the vocal melody in CP's track. Stop being biased, it helps no one.
XavierCrow 2 years ago 2
i think most of you like coldplay because your friends do LOL, Im a guitarist, Pretty much all guitarist have at least heard of him, and ya we can listen to a solo forever when it has feeling, coldplay is doing whatever it takes to get popular lol
gtrmaster2000 2 years ago
I'd never heard of Satriani before this lawsuit either . . . but I don't go around being proud of my ignorance. Just because you've never heard of someone before doesn't mean they are no good. This whole thing reminds me of when Hendrix (innovator) was boo'd because the crowd was expecting to see The Monkees (pre-packaged). Go ask your mom who those guys are.
wickedjacob 2 years ago
why the hell would coldplay listen to this dickhead?
lowco23 2 years ago
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Astralpua 2 years ago
You obviously haven't studied music, you've been following the boring, ignorant, monotonous, inexpressive culture that latter generations have spawned.
Music is an art form, and expression of peoples feelings that understanding, down to earth people respect and enjoy, whether its a guitarist playing all night long or somebody playing a tuba for 2 minutes.
The modern take on music appears to be for fame and money, and is so badly written and inexpressive it shouldn't be called music at all.
flobtob 2 years ago 3
Right! Music is expression one's emotions or feelings. "If I Could Fly" is freedom beneath one's wings. It is joy, happiness. Coldplay, I feel was in the wrong here; some of the band's members openly admitted to copying parts of music they've listened to. To me, if someone copied my music, I'd be like, "Oh my God! How could these monsters steal my soul, my life, my heart." Its THAT big of a deal. Its thieves stealing money and sacrificing a hostage to get away.
BrownsvilleNY4 1 year ago
Screw you. Satriani puts out more than Paganini ever did. He does live clinics. Do you think that Paganini would have done such a thing? I think not. Music is an art form; the guitarist has a much more difficult job, than say, the violinist. Sure, a violin has to focus on intonation and bow work, but what does it mean if there isn't any heart or feeling? The guitar brings life and power to a song that needs it, more than back then. Don't call yourself a musician ever again. Music is expression.
BrownsvilleNY4 1 year ago
Look I'm not going to argue with you guys...neither of you has probably even studied at a music school, or played another instrument except your electric guitar...the point is you are too ignorant to understand therefore too ignorant to insult...I feel like I'm trying to tell little kids that there's no Santa...so go open a theory book you wankers!!
Astralpua 1 year ago
@BrownsvilleNY4 You do realize that Paganini was a composer..right? Meaning he wrote more than Violin he wrote an entire symphony. Besides you can't compare an Artist and a composer from two different times. If Paganini lived around our time he probably would far surpass most Artists including Satriani. Being a musician during his time was much more tougher than it is today. And being an excellent musician in his time was near impossible. Musicians in our time have more to work with and to learn
nightfireivey 1 year ago
Pussy pussy pussy pussy.....chillax dude...we're just theorizing here...although Satriani is a pussy! Who wants to listen to solo guitar all night anyway? Fucking boring as hell...same arrangements...a bunch of riffs and a crappy melody line...this guy owes his fame to Coldplay...before this scandal I'd never heard of him...so he should be thanking them
Astralpua 2 years ago
@all stupid coldplay fanboys who cant be objective enough to realize common sense: viva la vida is VERY similar to the satriani song, they have the same tempo, same groove, same chords, same melody.... not saying it was intentional but if i where in satrianis position i would have done the same thing.
nZn1 2 years ago
@Astralpua Man this guy doesnt owe any Fame to Coldplay. Turst me Im not a fan of his at all. And it is boring. But man growing up this guy was always huge. He was like the guitar god. Constantly on the cover of any music magizine.
xthantos 2 years ago
fuck 10 percent, Joe should get 90 percent for life since he wrote 90 percent of it
MonkeyPowers 2 years ago
Joe stole that from Enanitos Verdes.
See youtube.
caravaggio31 2 years ago
@ CARAVAGGIO31
Only like 4 notes are the same, that's an overreaction, an exaggeration, Joe didn't steal a thing, and with all due respect I don't think, he (J.S.) even knows who they (E. V.) are.
eltiogamboin 2 years ago
maybe cold play never heard the song... lol i never until 10 mins ag
bluesBro18 2 years ago 3
me2
TheGossipgirl911 2 years ago
Screw Coldplay. Freakin U2 wannabes
gruhonjic 2 years ago
U2? Let me laugh! Coldplay is the best band at the moment! They have a really different style from U2? Wtf are you saying
mrmaster52 2 years ago
I'm saying that you're a freakin fanboy. Coldplay is a group of freakin pansy, plagiarist, douche bags who have no musical talent and rely on their fans to rate their songs as "existential reality", because their lyrics make no sense.
gruhonjic 2 years ago
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satch's if you i could fly are emotions flitered through lots of machismo guitar solos. Coldplay's version is profound, heartfelt, indie sound. The two sounds similar but yet are worlds apart. Just as a mere 2 percent gene difference makes the leap between an rowdy chimp and a cerebral man.
crapo 2 years ago
Who cares how the "emotions are filtered"...bottom line is that the chord progression, timing, just about everything is the same ! ! ! ! ! !.....the guys from cold play are shitheads if they don't step up and say: our bad ! !
41soulless 2 years ago 23
damn, i wish satch (my guitar hero) didnt settle out of court. why did he have to do that? Shouldnt he have opted to fight it out at court if it was really about principle (as he said)? damn i wish he didnt take the money. I'm so disappointed. maybe he didnt have a good case and he was afraid it would have not gone down well at court i guess.
crapo 2 years ago
He's a fucking douche, who likes solo guitars anyway
mrmaster52 2 years ago
Amen!!
Astralpua 2 years ago
Cause he's a pussy!!! Did u hear what they said? Satriani wanted to sue Gunther but Coldplay have more money...it has nothing to do with principles!!! He just wanted money...so stop fucking pretending he's a victim cause he's a dick like everybody else!!!
Astralpua 2 years ago
yes, apparently, he really is a pussy. if it really was about princple, he wouldnt have taken to money
crapo 2 years ago
fucking cold play stealing a metal god's melody gawd what the fuck u dont do do that what the hell man
twojemytoes 2 years ago
Don't call Joe a metal god. He is a god, but not metal. Rock!
torod213 2 years ago 4
more like guitar in general but sure why not
J0EMOMMA726 2 years ago
yes, but he mostly does rock. Satch Boogie? ^^ But yeah, he does other stuff too. Day At The Beach is the most beautiful song ever!
torod213 2 years ago
I agree with MOPEDBRAD. Joe would've said yes if they wanted to use his melody. But when someone steals it without asking, that crosses the line.
braddudeguy 2 years ago
It's blatantly obvious they stole from Satch.
Too bad they didn't ask, Joe woulda said yes in a heartbeat.
If the Satch man says they stole it, I need no further proof.
Is there anyone more adept in sound recognition than Mr. Satriani?
No, there isn't.
MOPEDBRAD 2 years ago 3
If you knew a girl named Hellen keller, she read this one book when she was very young. After she lost her senses, she wrote a book just like the one she read and was in trouble for plagiarism.
This is the same basic principle. Maybe Coldplay was listening to A song similar to Satriani's and came up with a different melody to go with it. If you look at the video The Melody Conspiracy, here on Youtube, you will find it's very overused.
911Goofy 2 years ago 3
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Any sensible musician will say that it is exaggerated. The resemblance is surprising but the coincidence is far from being improbable. I am guitarist and several years ago I composed a theme of 9 notes completely similar to a phrasing from the piano concerto #3 of Rachmaninov. I had still never listened to this artist before! By chance, I 'm not so famous than Coldplay, I believe that one would judge me systematically!
esthetichaos 2 years ago
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world4111 2 years ago
lol dun dun dunnn
so DID coldplay copy satriani??
what is the real truth!?!?!?!
dun dun dun..... lol
yourbestfriendsushi 2 years ago
It may have been an accident, however it doesn't matter... If the melody is identical (rhythm, and melody target note in their relative key for a whole phrase,) Coldplay would have to get Satriani's permission to use it.
It's not really that big of a deal as long as Coldplay does the right thing once it's been brought to their attention.
Copyright doesn't care the intent of the infringement... it doesn't care if it was an accidental or on purpose... nor who's more poplar than who
MySupaFli 2 years ago 2
well i dont really care... emm thanks for writing that much as my comment reply but who cares, do u even know when this debate started? its kinda long ago if u dont know, so im kinda over it now..? so i dont care
yourbestfriendsushi 2 years ago
@HeyLee14,sales does not equal talent,think about that.And by the way,you are an annoying,ignorant brat.
TheTerminatorevo 2 years ago
The lawyer said yes? so what happened to coldplay?
amillionlittlefiber 2 years ago
Snatch has no case. . .he was pwned by Coldplay..QQ
Lovecraft688 2 years ago
LoveCrack - The only snatch around here is in coldplay's britches, boy.
LikeIToldYouBoy 2 years ago
wow heylee congratulations you're now offically a retard for basing your logic on album sales. satch is one of the few remaining talented musicians. coldplay sucks. period
P.S. "Sani-tanny"? O please at least come up with a good insult....
thebridge94 2 years ago 3
And that is, release 22 albums, and still have people care about who they are. Joe didn't have "two good albums". All his music is good, it's just that those two probably only spiked the interest of the greater public. The only case you rested was the fact you're an ignorant fool.
As said before, to play Satriani songs it does take skill. I've been playing guitar for 4 years, and I still can't play all of Joe's stuff without serious practice time. It took 3min to learn Viva La Vida for school.
vahn9 2 years ago
I'm ignorant? oh pleaze...so what, it still only took 4 albums. So what it took you 4 years to learn his song, that doesn't mean anything about sounding good...
HeyLee14 2 years ago
It's not a matter of sounding good here. If anything, you just said Joe sounds good too, because Viva La Vida is a near damn copy of Joe's song "If I Could Fly". Thank you for that btw. I'm just saying, Joe sounds good, and is talented. Coldplay sounds good too, don't get me wrong, but they're just not as talented as Joe. It doesn't require skill to sound good, but people thinking sounding good is skill. For all we know, Coldplay doesn't even write their own music, but I am unsure of this.
vahn9 2 years ago
I am going to like Coldplay, and you can like Santriani, okay.
HeyLee14 2 years ago 2
HeyLee14, you're pretty annoying. Just because you like Coldplay doesn't mean you can take their side and be stupid about it. Listen up, there is a video on youtube floating around that has VERY good evidence pointing out obvious points in the song where Coldplay's song is the same as Joe's. Okay Joe didn't sell as many albums, I'm sorry he didn't join/make a mainstream band? 22 Albums, years of experience, INSANE talent. Singing is not a way to measure skill. I'd like Coldplay to make 22 albums
vahn9 2 years ago
im a fan of both , BUT coldplay have 100% lifted this here even if it may have been unintentional , for which ever memer of coldplay brought it in, ..... joe deserves his cut without a shadow of a doubt
pyleen 2 years ago
The question is:Who is Chris Martin?Pretty simple,a thief with no talent at all,and who steals songs from other artists to become famous and rich.Now it's time to pay,bastard!!
TheTerminatorevo 2 years ago
your an idiot...
HeyLee14 2 years ago
It's obvious,you're a coldgay fangirl who cant handle the truth.
TheTerminatorevo 2 years ago
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its obvious you're retarded...Coldplay Rules!! Sani-tanny drools!! XD
HeyLee14 2 years ago
you know it requires talent to play satriani? and Coldplay is just balls
drrock100 2 years ago
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lets ask the audience shall we?
Joe Satriani - 22 albums 10 million sold
Coldplay 4 albums and over 50 million sold....
i rest my case... ;)
HeyLee14 2 years ago
Stop trolling like a fag. Satriani is a master of guitar and is hard to listen if you are a dumbass. Coldplay plays their songs like all pop-noobs. now STFU
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HeyLee14 2 years ago
I've heard of Satriani - he made a famous album called "Surfing with the Alien" in 1989. The last decent thing he made was in 2000, the Extremist. Coldplay are one of the most popular bands in the world - and better still, they can actually sing.
dilaudid 2 years ago