I find it ironic how Adam won't let you continue until you get the Diffusion Missles, yet he's clearly annoyed at Samus's doing so against authorization.
Just something for you to ponder, why is it called "shinespark" by the computer when only the past games called it shinespark and this game calls it "speed boost"?
@matroid9 two. One is to use a very complex series of Shinesparks (as mentioned in the video) after unlocking the red doors but before getting Diffusion Missiles. The second is the Ice Missile trick you jut saw.
If you re-enter the Navigation Room after pulling off this trick and seeing the message, the Computer will ask the usual question: "Confirm mission objective?" If you pick "No" there will be a very small, but sort of funny sequence. =)
@Kunzile The action replay wasn't what I used to get there, but it was what helped, because the actual way back the same way was to run instead of jump, and hit the second level fish while running the missle to the target.
To all those who don't know, the fourth wall is considered a divider between a fictional world and the real world, ie the Screen. The game is acknowledging it is a game, and in doing so, breaking the fourth wall.
I actually did this one time by complete accident but i ignored it later on I realized that i didn't get the Fusion Missile, can someone tell me what the whole point of this message, I hear all this crap about breaking the fourth wall
@Sentinel2k1 Its REALLY hard to get from the 4th security room to the Nav room without the Diffusion missile. You're expected to do a LOT of Shinesparks. Anyway, the point is, Renpou (The Federation) wants to tell Samus about something, probably the continuation of the Metroid Breeding Program from Other M (Which SA-X deals with later), but Adam stops them. Constantly. Whether this is BECAUSE the computer has Adam's brain or because it has yet to use it Im not sure. Actually, if you talk...
@Sentinel2k1 To Adam again and say you don't need the objective confirmed, Renpou tries to tell Samus again, but again Adam douches out and stops him. Still not sure what the "plan is, but due to the cutscenes earlier and later on I assume its the Metroid Breeding Program II.
it was hard for me to get back to the 4th security room without the diffusion missile, I didn't know until my cousin told me I was missing the missiles and that you found the secret message everyone's been looking for but like i said I ignored it when it first appeared i took it as another cut scene, I don't know the story of metroid I just enjoy the games thanks for the reply, now I understand the whole point of this
@Sentinel2k1 well there is no point. it was a secret nintendo put in for the people that thought of this. eventually someone found it and put the trick on the internet. they say that for you to go back around and check that data room. then the game goes back normally.
How Is it I csn Beat this Game 100% with Like 15 to 20 Minates to spare and Can Beat all the bosses with Out taking Any Damage. yet I cant seem to Pull off this ar the other trick.
lol.. i managed this on the 3rd try. Amazing, but when I tried to go back and freeze it from the other side, I couldn't do it. I ran out of missiles and it got too boring, and had to back-track to get to the navigation room. =\
Nice find. I may give this a shot if I don't manage the actual shinespark trick. I want to see if I can do it first, or if I will just fail miserably.
Yes, you will still get the message. The shinespark Adam mentions is the trick you're supposed to do to get there (as opposed to the one used in this video), not the shinespark at the end.
Weird thing on my game (PAL version). When I get back at the navigation room with this trick, the computer asks me "Repeat instructions ?" and I have to answer "yes" to have the secret message. If I say no, the mysterious guy says "Samus, about the plan I told you..." then the comp says "Samus, get back on your mission immediatly !", then again the guy "...". Why does that happen ?
Also, if I'm right you still have to get the diffusion upgrade to continue the game ?
I like this way, because it shows that players can be more ingenious than the designers, and can come up with things that the designers didn't realize that you could do. It's a game of who can outsmart who.
Except for the fact that this isn't the trick they knew about. They are talking about a completely different and unrelated trick that involved a lot of difficult shinespark maneuvers.
Except for the fact that the message is there. It's a reward for the smart players. If it was a genuine hole in the game there would be no secret message.
@stalhein61 The thing is, the secret message mentions the shinespark method, which is another method to get there and have the message displayed. What's in this video is an alternate method to get the same message even though another route was used to get there. Which means the player outsmarts the designer for coming up with a new method to get there that the designers weren't aware of.
@XxDregonxX Indeed. Like Super Metroid I can do infinite wall jump and early items collection that are impossible to reach. But that's the only game you can go around freely.
The man in the suit works for the Galactic Federation. Their plan was to capture the SA-X and take it back to the Federation. I guess in the secret message skit, he was going to tell her and have her help them capture it, I think. :)
this was the simplest version of getting the secret message. you have a WAAAAYYYYY more annoying and complicated way. look in other videos. the complicated way you might see.and for your question, yes, if you don't get diffusion you see the secret message.
shinespark is the ability that comes with the speed booster.you run and when dashing you crouch down and store the energy.and afet that when you jumt without somersaulting you can dash in midair into 5 directions
I remmber doing this, i wa swondering waht happened if you did not DL the diffusal missiles, since normally oyu would get scolded for doing so xD took me a lot of time since i tried every one of those globe fish thingies until i got it on that exact same one XD
many PLAYERS or SPECTATORS have seen it, but how many of us have actually GOTTEN it? i havnt, but my cousin has (:D) so its a real message not a hack for those who think otherwise
The message comes from a secret message from the sector AQUA part of the game. You had to preserve a shinespark for a LONG period of time and then use it where otherwise, unuseably.
Lololol
SicMetalMaggot4life 2 days ago
Why is this so difficult for me to do?
SolidSam96 1 month ago
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holy crap it's chuck norris!
scaryyougurt 1 month ago
Got it!
I find it ironic how Adam won't let you continue until you get the Diffusion Missles, yet he's clearly annoyed at Samus's doing so against authorization.
PolimarioProductions 2 months ago
@PolimarioProductions Like Other M?
HunterGust12 1 month ago
Yep, that's how I did it. Took me forever.
BioD42 3 months ago
Just something for you to ponder, why is it called "shinespark" by the computer when only the past games called it shinespark and this game calls it "speed boost"?
akatony1992 3 months ago
@akatony1992 The powerup itself is called Speed Boost, the ''trick'' of crouching and then shooting upward/sideways/diagonally is called Shinespark.
KilleRoyNl 2 months ago
@pfshadow1 the one where you said you can't get the diffusion missiles. It should be possible considering there are powerup tanks there.
MarioSegaFreak 3 months ago
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lol I just used this method and works in the Spanish version, it only have taken me around 20 - 10 missiles.
DruidVorse 3 months ago
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DruidVorse 3 months ago
speak to it a gain after the first time, it continues a little :P
sakon183 4 months ago
how many ways are there to get that message?
matroid9 5 months ago
@matroid9 two. One is to use a very complex series of Shinesparks (as mentioned in the video) after unlocking the red doors but before getting Diffusion Missiles. The second is the Ice Missile trick you jut saw.
raetekusu1 5 months ago
62,779 players will computer, lol
Shoppingcartapuses 6 months ago
Is it ok that i did this on my first shot with no practice whatsoever?
omegaipodmaniac 7 months ago 6
whats a shinespark
controlurmind 7 months ago
If you re-enter the Navigation Room after pulling off this trick and seeing the message, the Computer will ask the usual question: "Confirm mission objective?" If you pick "No" there will be a very small, but sort of funny sequence. =)
TheDokmoBros 8 months ago
@TheDokmoBros Whats in the sequence? Can you upload a video?
GreendayversusU2 5 months ago
its awesome but the worst is you cant go back the same way so it takes really long time to fetch the new missiles xD
MrChokladeMan 8 months ago
hehe this is great, i love this game
EFRANEED 8 months ago
About breaking the fourth wall games does do that often,like "press the x button to jump.
But in the beginning of rayman 3 murfy breaks the fourth wall like a 100+ times=p
pokemonn98 8 months ago
Get it? The shinespark technique allows you to BREAK THROUGH WALLS.
LOL, they made a funny pun.
oe98 8 months ago
YEAHHH!!! 320 TRIES (1 for each missile) AND IT STILL HASN'T WORKED!! YEAHHH!!! (this technique fails)
hybrinoid 9 months ago
@hybrinoid I got it on my 3rd missile...
silverwing789 9 months ago
AAAAWWWWW YEEEEAAAAHHH!!! 5 tries!! You're the MAN man
superbubabros 9 months ago
Great, now I gotta to 3/4 of this game (again) just to see a 10 second message, where the computer acts as a complete, uh, B.
WatchAndGameMr 10 months ago
So who is the guy?
ZAPPSOFT 10 months ago
LOL
swordsmancs 11 months ago
Supposedly there's more to this message is you say no to "is your objective clear?".
downwith4kids 11 months ago
smart way to do it but maybe difficult also i need help on my game i put the evrything gameshark cheat on and the doors wont open
masterchief9091 11 months ago
@masterchief9091 dont do that believe me i did it and now i cant download the diffusion missile so i need to start over :(
pfshadow1 8 months ago
@pfshadow1 Just go back to the room... it's not that hard.
MarioSegaFreak 3 months ago
@MarioSegaFreak are you talking about my reaction to masterchief? or have i posted another one? :p
pfshadow1 3 months ago
One time i was playing on my gba and i got the navigation room music in the room outside of the recharge room. what does that mean? o-O
DeadSaiyan13 1 year ago
@DeadSaiyan13 same thing with me.Ive had the game since it came out though
thisisapass 9 months ago
i made this now but i think i use like 150 missiles XD
gamerETC09 1 year ago
lol it looks like a tas demonstration
enrique90000 1 year ago
I remeber I did this by accident
mosesboo22 1 year ago
@mosesboo22 wat is da hiddeen message
13mrCartel 1 year ago
@mosesboo22 nevermind
13mrCartel 1 year ago
wow that looks a LOT then chaining shinesparks. Very nice!
Qwink27 1 year ago
Did you get back the same way? 'Cuz I did, and I used an action replay to get back.
Inferno144X 1 year ago
@Kunzile The action replay wasn't what I used to get there, but it was what helped, because the actual way back the same way was to run instead of jump, and hit the second level fish while running the missle to the target.
Inferno144X 1 year ago
To all those who don't know, the fourth wall is considered a divider between a fictional world and the real world, ie the Screen. The game is acknowledging it is a game, and in doing so, breaking the fourth wall.
And now you know.
Seraphim323 1 year ago
@DiscoRByrno Call me ignorant but what it's the 4th wall and how can you break it?
Miuni 1 year ago
I actually did this one time by complete accident but i ignored it later on I realized that i didn't get the Fusion Missile, can someone tell me what the whole point of this message, I hear all this crap about breaking the fourth wall
Sentinel2k1 1 year ago
@Sentinel2k1 Its REALLY hard to get from the 4th security room to the Nav room without the Diffusion missile. You're expected to do a LOT of Shinesparks. Anyway, the point is, Renpou (The Federation) wants to tell Samus about something, probably the continuation of the Metroid Breeding Program from Other M (Which SA-X deals with later), but Adam stops them. Constantly. Whether this is BECAUSE the computer has Adam's brain or because it has yet to use it Im not sure. Actually, if you talk...
ShadowkingSonic 1 year ago
@Sentinel2k1 To Adam again and say you don't need the objective confirmed, Renpou tries to tell Samus again, but again Adam douches out and stops him. Still not sure what the "plan is, but due to the cutscenes earlier and later on I assume its the Metroid Breeding Program II.
ShadowkingSonic 1 year ago
@ShadowkingSonic
it was hard for me to get back to the 4th security room without the diffusion missile, I didn't know until my cousin told me I was missing the missiles and that you found the secret message everyone's been looking for but like i said I ignored it when it first appeared i took it as another cut scene, I don't know the story of metroid I just enjoy the games thanks for the reply, now I understand the whole point of this
Sentinel2k1 1 year ago
@Sentinel2k1 well there is no point. it was a secret nintendo put in for the people that thought of this. eventually someone found it and put the trick on the internet. they say that for you to go back around and check that data room. then the game goes back normally.
D4rkl0rd7271 1 year ago
I don't know what the point of these messages are but I dont know.
ZAPPSOFT 1 year ago
In the Japanese Version, it doesnt work, because these enemies was too far from the left, (Place changing)
JeromeMC93 1 year ago
So, the idea in this is that you just don't get the fission missile? Is that all you have to do, and then do what you did in this video?
lolbandwidth 1 year ago
so you get this message just by avoiding the missile upgrade
chibigatts 1 year ago
Just a point: When you go back to talk them again, they say a different thing.
Hetzeegaryu1 1 year ago
I'm calling hax on this
tehQED 1 year ago
Apparently, 46 thousand players saw the message.
jimmy54fromroblox 1 year ago
Wow I actually got it on the gameboy (not emulator) after say...40 tries?
AnthonyHongy 1 year ago
I got it on my last missle
DarsanUchiha 1 year ago
Sequence-breaking a sequence break? Awesome.
ElKeptan 1 year ago 20
Is this a real thing?
megamormonman 1 year ago
hmmm i wonder how many players will see this *sees video* WTF 42,836!!! cheaters
TheYautjahunter 1 year ago 18
@DiscoRByrno Yes, my friend. Absolutely SHATTERED.
Mrpwnage2244 1 year ago
How Is it I csn Beat this Game 100% with Like 15 to 20 Minates to spare and Can Beat all the bosses with Out taking Any Damage. yet I cant seem to Pull off this ar the other trick.
madmachinex 1 year ago
heh I just went theru 800 Like rockets and havent gotten this One yet...
Might I ask if this was done Vea Emulater or actual gameboy?
madmachinex 1 year ago
i love when an intended sequence break gets sequence broken a new one
andrevus2 1 year ago
ugh, the closest i got was to when it was just about half inflated. >:(
astrotoadp6 1 year ago
I just pulled this off right now. Helluva lot better than doing it the regular way.
TheAb0rtionist 1 year ago
jaja good one i made it
Zexibe 1 year ago
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That trick with the Shinespark was...Wait, why did you even get this message? You never even used the Shinespark!
MrQuiggles12 1 year ago
this is wht happens when the computer broke the fourth wall
computer:I wonder how many players will see this messege...?
Samus:OMG COMPUTAH YOU JUST BROKE DEE FOURTH WALL
computer: your the one is breaking the fourth wall now |:|
Samus: WELL DON'T BLAME ME YOU BROKE DEE FORTH WALL LAST!!!
computer: um now your doing it last...
CrystalQueen59 1 year ago 2
thank you so much!!!! (:
soulman398 1 year ago
How many players will see this message? ITS OVER 9000!!!!!
StupidPantsMan 1 year ago 2
wait, so you can get the message without needing to shinespark?
astrotoadp6 2 years ago
Yay! I finally got it after about 100 shots! Now to get back...
identificationfailed 2 years ago
mierda! que loco muy bueno!!!
tuteheavy 2 years ago
"I wonder how many players will read this message...?" Oooo I know! Like over 30,000
soulborg63 2 years ago 3
@soulborg63 another vid shows another way to get this message. it has 126k views
TheHippyhopp 2 years ago
@TheHippyhopp ya thats why i said OVER 30,000
soulborg63 2 years ago
@DiscoRByrno Yes. Very yes.
The developers, knowing that players would sequence-break like crazy, put in a prize for them.
Sequence-breakers then discovered a way to sequence-break the already broken sequence to get the prize the wrong way.
GlennMagusHarvey 2 years ago
What are you talking about? o_O
CuuijqyMuruqdte 2 years ago
lol.. i managed this on the 3rd try. Amazing, but when I tried to go back and freeze it from the other side, I couldn't do it. I ran out of missiles and it got too boring, and had to back-track to get to the navigation room. =\
CuuijqyMuruqdte 2 years ago
...sry i pressed enter xD
... pause the vid when he starts firing a rocket and then only watch little parts of the way the rocket fly.. it make a courve?!
TheDarkZanto 2 years ago
wait... IT LOOKS DAMN GOOD BUT...
TheDarkZanto 2 years ago
you can't do it from the other side because of that small plattform :(
Headshotgod 2 years ago
My mind: No my objective isn't clear! What the fuck man!
SolarZero 2 years ago
What did u do to get this message? O_o
gibuselli 2 years ago
Avoid getting diffusion missile...
VShalak 2 years ago
@gibuselli watch the vid -.-
PaulTheuns 2 years ago
so you can skip the diffusion missiles like that?
megabbaut 2 years ago
You can't skip them because you can't get out of the sector without getting them.
TwilightSDA 2 years ago
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megabbaut 2 years ago
Nice find. I may give this a shot if I don't manage the actual shinespark trick. I want to see if I can do it first, or if I will just fail miserably.
kombat200 2 years ago
Hahaha wow that's pretty damn awesome, gotta love game designers that put a little humor in their games. Thanks for the upload.
RSMatt88222 2 years ago
Sequence breaking at its finest! Well I'm not sure if this would count as sequence breaking actually.....shame they took this out in the PAL version!
whyemceeay 2 years ago
who is that guy
omnikickflip9000 2 years ago 2
For anyone wondering, this is legit. I've just done it myself. A whole ton easier than doing all that shinespark crap
Thanks a lot pal
taotd 2 years ago
if you press no you get little exstra :D
cl0uni 2 years ago
Like what?
jgrosse5554 2 years ago
get there and find out :P
cl0uni 2 years ago
what happens if you don't shinespark when you talk to adam? Do you still get the message?
5k4k1dhtp 2 years ago
Yes, you will still get the message. The shinespark Adam mentions is the trick you're supposed to do to get there (as opposed to the one used in this video), not the shinespark at the end.
Kunzile 2 years ago
Weird thing on my game (PAL version). When I get back at the navigation room with this trick, the computer asks me "Repeat instructions ?" and I have to answer "yes" to have the secret message. If I say no, the mysterious guy says "Samus, about the plan I told you..." then the comp says "Samus, get back on your mission immediatly !", then again the guy "...". Why does that happen ?
Also, if I'm right you still have to get the diffusion upgrade to continue the game ?
Linkenfant 2 years ago
@Kunzile shinespark? the speed boost u mean?
Niraku100 1 year ago
I like this way, because it shows that players can be more ingenious than the designers, and can come up with things that the designers didn't realize that you could do. It's a game of who can outsmart who.
XxDregonxX 2 years ago 50
Yeah, except they KNEW the trick was in there, that's why there's a message, so really they're still in control.
Morphae 2 years ago
Except for the fact that this isn't the trick they knew about. They are talking about a completely different and unrelated trick that involved a lot of difficult shinespark maneuvers.
ProbablyConfused 2 years ago
@XxDregonxX
Except for the fact that the message is there. It's a reward for the smart players. If it was a genuine hole in the game there would be no secret message.
stalhein61 1 year ago
@stalhein61 The thing is, the secret message mentions the shinespark method, which is another method to get there and have the message displayed. What's in this video is an alternate method to get the same message even though another route was used to get there. Which means the player outsmarts the designer for coming up with a new method to get there that the designers weren't aware of.
omgwtfbbqlolkthxbai 1 year ago
@omgwtfbbqlolkthxbai
I haven't seen the shinespark method, but the explanation seems reasonable enough. Either way, the theory still stands. But thank you.
stalhein61 1 year ago
@XxDregonxX Indeed. Like Super Metroid I can do infinite wall jump and early items collection that are impossible to reach. But that's the only game you can go around freely.
elebits4545 1 year ago
@XxDregonxX i like the rhyming in the end
DarkadventureR19 9 months ago
@XxDregonxX really, not.
designers knows that is possible take that way, they say in the message, but the really way is, a bit difficult
redclefto 7 months ago
Doesn't matter how you do it. One just requires less self-torture...
OgnarPliskin 2 years ago 3
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stupid peopledidn't i just tell you stop sending me this fuckin video!
moneyman9514 2 years ago
fff... Awesome :D
DarkHarpuia 2 years ago
Very nice man, but I did it the proper way with the shinespark, I find it more satisfying.
Reconite11 2 years ago
Just wondering,that guy that appeared said "Let's fill her on our plan."
What did he mean?
clickingpinging 2 years ago
The man in the suit works for the Galactic Federation. Their plan was to capture the SA-X and take it back to the Federation. I guess in the secret message skit, he was going to tell her and have her help them capture it, I think. :)
MysteryWriter22 2 years ago
wow, i didn't see that, i beat it
Gingividus 2 years ago
or it coudl have been the metriod breeding thing
ZobmieRules 2 years ago
That is... not advisable.
Bah.
Tatsuhiko 2 years ago
wait rdnt u suppose to get diffusion or sumthing..?lol
l1ghtbl4d3x 2 years ago
you have to go back and get it.
bladiumdragon 2 years ago
wait so if u dont get diffusion u get a secret message?
l1ghtbl4d3x 2 years ago
this was the simplest version of getting the secret message. you have a WAAAAYYYYY more annoying and complicated way. look in other videos. the complicated way you might see.and for your question, yes, if you don't get diffusion you see the secret message.
bladiumdragon 2 years ago 3
It's been ages since I played fusion but.....what was diffusion again?
stonforcebassbohab 2 years ago 3
Difusion is the upgrade to your ice missile.
You can charge your ice missile, and when fired it'll freeze everything on the whole screen.
apeman14 2 years ago 4
Oh yeah I remember now thank you.
stonforcebassbohab 2 years ago 3
Adam gets all pissed that you get it.
DesertLynx83 2 years ago
and it still says the "trick with the shinespark was ingenious"
lowtone10 2 years ago
hey i just saw it without playing it!
woo whoo!!
ghostriderfan2 2 years ago
i did the shinespark all the time!!!
how come i never get the message :(
roller6902 2 years ago
lol so not DLing the Diffusion missile is an alternative for the message lol
andrevus2 2 years ago
Son of a ...I never knew about this
Snotnarok 2 years ago
I wonder how many players will see this message?
Parukia256 2 years ago
wtf is the Shinespark?
s3k5hun8 2 years ago
shinespark is the ability that comes with the speed booster.you run and when dashing you crouch down and store the energy.and afet that when you jumt without somersaulting you can dash in midair into 5 directions
andrevus2 2 years ago
Yes it works, I tried.
The version with the Shinespark is too difficult 4 me.
DarkGreenVegetable 2 years ago
I remmber doing this, i wa swondering waht happened if you did not DL the diffusal missiles, since normally oyu would get scolded for doing so xD took me a lot of time since i tried every one of those globe fish thingies until i got it on that exact same one XD
No1RockLeet 2 years ago
the next time nintendo should put something like:
i wonder how many players will see this...
P.S: the internet doesn't count
Sneider336 3 years ago 10
lol xD
Faircraft3 2 years ago
wicked
tarantino220 3 years ago
i wonder what kind of reraw is
bobaneko 3 years ago
Dude thank you soo much, mr and my brother have been wondering how to do this.THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!
tyman5656 3 years ago
preety badass
077819 3 years ago
lol truely awesome
thecaxolguy 3 years ago
it took me ten minutes!
fenixthedagoner 3 years ago
Thank god. I don't think I'll ever get the shinespark thing down.
Metaknight180 3 years ago
many PLAYERS or SPECTATORS have seen it, but how many of us have actually GOTTEN it? i havnt, but my cousin has (:D) so its a real message not a hack for those who think otherwise
recentteen14 3 years ago
how can i get this message in the game?
wewe2233 3 years ago
wow i dont know maybe watching this video might help
thecaxolguy 3 years ago 6
how many players?
about... 19687 maybe?
bobbafede 3 years ago
dang, I just got past that part and saved it, A and B save slots are right by ridley and SA-X
strongbadman2 3 years ago
and slot C?
hunterbot22 2 years ago
That's funny. Like, seriously funny.
MisterGamer43 3 years ago
HAHA! never mind people i managed to succeed. tht is 1 cool trick
hellbuck 3 years ago
what do i need to pull this off
hellbuck 3 years ago
was that for real???
hellbuck 3 years ago
yes! i kill myself for do the shinespark trick to read the message, and now i learn a new way to see it
toninhostelzer 3 years ago
"I wonder how many players will see this message...?"
Fourth wall=shattered into a million pieces lol
SnakeByte117 3 years ago 7
dat waz da shit! MAn that waz KOOLL!!!!
XBOXdonkey 3 years ago
donkey say what?
strongbadman2 3 years ago
translation: wow that is awesome, man that was cool!!!
XBOXdonkey 3 years ago 6
what?
thekkl 3 years ago
Hmmm...
I wander what their plan was...
Relax298 3 years ago
To release sa-x and destroy samus for no particular reason?
Rocketedude 3 years ago
maybe...
i don't know...
Relax298 3 years ago
no... the plan was the metroid breeding thing, right before you see SA-X getting attacked by metroids after you beat B.O.X. the second time
strongbadman2 3 years ago
OMG that was messed up lol
Disturbinged 3 years ago
yo thts sick i noe that message
LilSC19 3 years ago
OMG i love you lol I always wanted to get this but never could this way is ALOT easier
Masher7777 3 years ago
The message comes from a secret message from the sector AQUA part of the game. You had to preserve a shinespark for a LONG period of time and then use it where otherwise, unuseably.
Seberry654 3 years ago