Logical Fallacies: Red Herring pt 1

[SpoiledLogic]

Great vid, enjoyed this one. I see now that I come across many red herrings! Even that telemarketing one happened to me.

[oleander423]

Your videos help my students understand fallacies. Thank you. Well produced, entertaining, and thorough.

[lazyperfectionist1]

@oleander423 Well good. Thank you, and you're welcome.

[LeftTechticle]

I can learn more from you in one video, than I could in a day of school. I really like the way you speak, you make things really clear and leave out nonsense. I truly wish everyone could speak like you.

[lazyperfectionist1]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag By its very nature. If I ask, "What kind of work is it?" and whoever I'm asking responds, "Around the corner at the phone company," this is a distraction presented as an answer.

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

I don't get the red herring fallacy, because it seems to claim that vaguely relevant data is inherently irrelevant.

[lazyperfectionist1]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag It's a red herring when someone's response is an attempt to distract from a question instead of an attempt to answer it.

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

@lazyperfectionist1

Most examples of the red herring fallacy include

A: Vaguely relevant data (or even important data, becuase importance can be quite distracting)

B: someone using that vaguely relevant data to change the argument

Calling data, even vaguely related data a fallacy, doesn't make sense to me.

As for B, well it implies that using logic maliciously is necessarily a fallacy

[lazyperfectionist1]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag Information vaguely relevant to the answer to the question is nonetheless not the answer to the question, and therefore, shouldn't be presented as such.

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

@lazyperfectionist1

You committed a red herring. Vaguely related data is not presented as the answer, but a mere distraction.

Data, even vaguely related data, is necessary to finding answers.

[lazyperfectionist1]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag Data can be helpful in finding the answer, yes, but it is not the answer itself.

[SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

hey your a fucking dork but logic is good

[lazyperfectionist1]

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag That's "you're."

[josealonsoleon]

Well let me say you are a great speaker, a great reader, a great thinker for having come up with the content that as a great writer you put on a piece of paper or on your computer screen that we see in the reflection of you glasses and a great actor and presenter for delivering the text with humor and emotions and with great eloquence.

[lazyperfectionist1]

Goodness. My modesty shall not survive intact.

[josealonsoleon]

You can always revert to becoming the Most modest....;-)

[Mephistophilus]

:45 Exactly.

1:28 Ditto

1:38 Exactly.

2:00 Could someone kindly show me the non acoustic, "invisible" submarine fleet and the "Star Wars" defense system? All I can find is Rumsfeld, Cheney and Wolfowitz spreading fear in the 70s & 80s.

3:30 It was transparent. So?

4:40 Exactly.

4:59 I would pass unless they could prove in one demonstration: a. The earth is a plate or b. We collectively change our shared reality. Good Luck.

6:06 Why did they not "show their work" to get you in the "right frame"?

[laraesque]

Those red herrings are strewn all over the comments in the videos. I had to laugh when I read the sunglasses comments in your other videos. So many fail to address the points of a video narrative and concentrate on irrelevant issues (he looks stupid, she is ugly, he is reading a script). In fact, I've read very few if any comments that can legitimately refute the logic that LP1 offers in his videos. Thanks for the logical fallacy vids!

[lazyperfectionist1]

You're quite welcome.

[KletosApostolos]

"How many countries should we invade?"

All of them. lol

[lothrazar]

I see the "but hes just reading a script" herring all the time.

If one person says "you are good at speaking off the top of your head - or good at memorizing monologues" reading could counter this, but again these are all just distracting from the content being discussed.

[nedbeaty72]

Get a haircut hippie!!

[lazyperfectionist1]

I know. It's so unruly.

[CHAS1422]

Your Logical Fallacy videos are very educational. Thanks!

[Nihilist127]

Those gosh darn literate people ruin everything for those illiterate folk.