@TheCaptainLulz Strong statement from a person who does not really know me and probably from someone who knows the Bible says "Judge not, for in the way you judge YOU will be judged." Thankfully, God is love, a love that never fails and for whom nothing is impossible. Even a judgmental person like yourself will ultimately receive mercy that you don't deserve.
The doctrine of the Reconciliation of all things can prove the Trinity too and the other way around! Heaven-earth-hell/LOF. Since we experience we experience heaven and hell in this life to some degree, those pleace are tied. And all those who are in heaven, and on the earth and under the earth will be reconciled back to God, every knee shall bow, all tongues shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!
Gary, I would also like to add this about Hitler and the church. Mainstream christianity is fast to condemming Hitler to eternal suffering in fire. The only difference between Hitler and the church is that Hitler at least killed his victims before he put them in the ovens.
@PastorIblis First of all, you are misinterpreting Genesis 6:3. It doesn't mean humans are also flesh like God, but rather humans are not only spirit, but also flesh. Second I don't understand the point you are trying to make about the time limit.
But, more to the point, I didn't ask you for further "evidence" for your interpretation of the bible, I asked you to explain how the points you already brought up (Sumerian mythology and the meaning of Hebrew words) support your argument.
NOWHERE in Genesis 6:3 does it say that humans are a spirit thing.
Infact the word Spirit in Genesis 6:3 is the Hebrew word rooakh and means wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation
IT DOES NOT MEAN A GHOST OR SPOOKY THING!
Clearly you do not know even BASIC study tools like a Strongs Concordance yet you want to act like a fucking expert!
Try educating yourself and not trying to teach a teacher!
@PastorIblis Wow you're a teacher, eh? And do you find that swearing at your students is an effective way of teaching? But should I expect more from one who tries to win arguments (with tentmaker777) by calling on that old comment section chestnut the Nazis?
By the way I'm sure since you're an expert, you know that many translations don't even use the word "also", so I'm surprised you put so much importance on it.
Still, I'm starting to feel like you're avoiding my original question.
Frankly i do not care about the various shit translations. The Original 1611 verion which was the original to english is all that really matters given those other shit translation don't have a concordance that you can take the words back to their original language.
Which means the so called translation is meaningless!
You are a stupid blind sheep.
As for my choice of words i am not going to candy coat shit with you retards.
@PastorIblis May I suggest you try a little fact checking before making claims. A quick Google search tells me that there are at least 2 concordances published for the New International Version, a published and online version for the English Standard and Young did his own concordance to go with his translation.
I don't actually care how offensively you address me (I'm much more amused than I am offended), but I don't think your demeanour is going to help you win anyone over.
@PastorIblis To quote you, "those... translations don't have a concordance..." Followed by, "I am aware that there are other concordances..." If the second statement is true, why make the first? Why not state from the start that you think Strong's is the best? Either you were making a false statement the first time and hoped I wouldn't know or think to check, or you are embarrassed by your lack of knowledge and covering that up with your second statement. Either way, it hurts your credibility.
Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
English Standard:
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.”
Young's Literal Translation:
And Jehovah saith, 'My Spirit doth not strive in man -- to the age; in their erring they are flesh:' and his days have been an hundred and twenty years.
@PastorIblis Repeating what you said the first time does not in any way explain why references to clouds, thrones and chariots are evidence of aliens.
Thanks, by the way for bringing up the concordance over and over again. It prompted me to look up "also". It's from the Hebrew "gam", which means also in the sense of "moreover" or "indeed" and not the "as well as" sense that you're using it.
By the way, I'm an atheist, but unlike you I don't feel the need to replace god with little green men.
@PastorIblis Also, I'm starting to think you are intentionally avoiding my original question. But I'll ask it yet again, in case I'm not being clear. How does your mention of the Sumerians, and your (selective) definitions of the Hebrew words for Heaven, Hell, Soul and Spirit amount to evidence that the bible is talking about aliens?
@PastorIblis You sir are amazing. So, I guess the answer to are you going to answer my original question is no.
Who cares if there are a lot of references to clouds in the bible? The only thing that is evidence of is that we live on a cloudy planet. So remove those and you've got however many chariot and throne references. Now, unless the alien craft looked like flying chariots and thrones (which is nothing like what modern accounts of them are), why would they be described that way?
@PastorIblis Yes people use symbols all the time, but why would the ancient Hebrews have used symbols to describe what they saw every single time? It is a horrible way to communicate and has (according to you) led to a huge misunderstanding of what the bible is trying to tell us. If, even once there was a verse that physically described a UFO and then referred to it as a flying chariot after which every other reference could be understood in that context, I would understand.
@PastorIblis I think you missed my point. I wasn't asking why the descriptions were different, I was asking why they didn't, not even once, describe these UFOs in anything but a symbolic/metaphorical way. If they had done that, then I could understand the use of symbol and metaphor throughout the rest of the bible. But why would they be vague and unclear by using symbolic language throughout the entire bible?
I am an Atheist i am just not a moron like you clearly are.
If you wish to remain ignorant to the Alien issue in our world that is fine i don't care it doesn't effect my life one bit. In fact you can bow to them and serve them i frankly don't give two shits. Your asshole nature is no sweat off my ass.
I have done my research and I know what is going on.
You want to be an ass fine be an ass I don't care.
@PastorIblis So far, in your posts, you have done nothing to explain your position. You've just been belligerent and made statements that, no matter how much you claim they do, don't demonstrate your point.
I don't think that the assumption of Jesus is a true story that needs to be explained as something other than supernatural causes. I think the entire story is nonsense. Since you believe it is true, but actually depicts an alien abduction, what is your evidence?
If you don't have any, than your faith in aliens is no different than tentmaker777's faith in god.
If you do, why not share it? If you want to argue that I'm just lazy and should do the research myself, that's fine, but then why bother posting anything in the first place?
@PastorIblis I will grant you that it's easy to interpret the bible the way you do. It's very easy interpret the symbols and metaphors of the bible to be an indication of alien encounters. But being able to interpret it that way does not make it true. So, I'll ask you one more time, where is your evidence? I'm not talking about textual evidence from the bible itself, because even if you are right about what the bible is trying to communicate, that does not make it true.
@PastorIblis Look, I know you think that I'm just trying to get under your skin and pick a fight, but really I'm not, I just don't see what evidence you have for your position. If the fact that you can interpret the bible as accounts of visiting aliens is all you need to believe in ancient alien encounters, then that's fine just say the bible is proof enough for you.
@PastorIblis But for me, I need evidence outside of the bible if I am going to find your position (or the Christian one for that matter) credible. So, all I'm asking is, if you have other evidence, can you please point me in that direction?
(But if, you'd rather just swear at me and call stupid, feel free to do that instead.)
There are TONS of examples of UFO's outside of the bible.
So much that if you are to ignorant to look at it you are intentionally stupid.
And I have no time for those who choose to be morons!
I just hope whatever aliens are going to be here in 2012 aren't the Reptilians or greys.
You fools will not be prepared to fight for freedom so you best pray to whatever fantasy shit you believe in that the ones that show up aren't looking to make us their slaves!
@PastorIblis I wasn't asking for any examples of UFOs, but for examples that corroborate your interpretation of the bible. We may be experiencing constant visits from aliens today and if you showed me concrete evidence that every UFO encounter for the last 50 years was in fact an alien encounter, that would do nothing to prove that aliens have been visiting the earth for 1000s of years.
@PastorIblis You have been brainwashed. Holy angels and Demonic spirits are not aliens and you would do well to do research on Project Blue Beam and the NWO on the Internet. I can send you some video if you want...
@binkey Evidence of God outside the Bible? Do research on historical proof about Jesus, look in science, mathematic and nature. They have prove the existence of Divine creation by now. Oh, I will send you a video with proofs. Then you can research them...
@Cutie9326 Thanks, but no thanks. I've done the research and there is very little historical evidence for Jesus outside the bible. There is enough to suggest that a man named Jesus may have lived at that time and may have been executed by the Romans, but no credible historical reference to his miraculous deeds, resurrection, etc. As to "science, mathematics and nature" I'm pretty sure our standards of evidence must be different.
C. Last time I subjected myself to your barrage of insults I think I was pretty clear that I'm an atheist. (But, maybe the aliens erased that from your memory.)
@PastorIblis Well, then I guess you shouldn't have addressed it to me.
I see that your gentle demeanour hasn't changed since we corresponded. Tell me, does being a belligerent asshole afford you some kind of magical protection from the aliens or is it just in your nature to be a prick?
@PastorIblis Fine, but has it ever occurred to you that people might be more willing to listen to you if you didn't address people with such utter contempt? But I don't think you're actually interested in convincing people of your point of view. All you seem to want to do is be a shrill, overbearing jerk. If I'm wrong maybe you could try treating people with the common decency the average person deserves to be treated with, but if I'm right, could you please just shut the fuck up.
I don't actually believe in magic or think that you do. You've heard of sarcasm haven't you? I was being sarcastic.
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but I never claimed to think the Earth is the only place where life has evolved. But the universe is so large that even if there are a million other civilizations out there, the chances of them encountering us is minuscule. Now point me to some actual evidence and I'll listen. But as usual I'm sure you won't.
Again, the point was sarcasm. Have you heard of sarcasm? (And I didn't suggest it was your belief in aliens, but your belligerent assholery that gave you magical powers.)
@PastorIblis At no point did I say that we are the only life in the universe, so when you say "So I have nothing but contempt for someone ... [who thinks] no other life could have evolved," you are by definition putting words in my mouth.
Never said you thought aliens were gods, angels or demons, but you know, thanks for clarifying.
Now, every piece of "evidence" I've seen is either obviously falsified, or not evidence but a badly formed conclusion, so I ask again, show me some evidence.
@PastorIblis But you won't show me evidence will you? Because you don't actually have any do you? All you have is aggressiveness and abusive language.
I'm starting to think you're actually doing some sort of extended performance art piece.
@PastorIblis Okay, I watched the disclosure project press conference and then looked up the guy who put it on, Dr. Steven Greer and discovered that he once presented a picture of a moth and told people it was an image of an "alien light being". So I'll do some more research into the other presenters, but already the credibility of this thing is looking bad.
@PastorIblis i have never said they are all false. I said everything I have found doesn't stand up to scrutiny. All I've been doing (for what seems live forever) is asking for you to share some evidence.
@PastorIblis I don't need everything given to me, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and when someone tells me stuff that I find unbelievable, I ask that they give me some evidence before I waste my time doing my own research on the subject (especially when the person making such claims is rude, belligerent and doesn't know how to write properly in his -- presumably -- native language).
Why would I bother doing research on a subject shouted at me from a bullying prick, who can't even be bothered to support his abusively presented arguments with any sort of facts or evidence?
Well now you finally have put forward some evidence and it's a press conference presented by a charlatan and vague references to FBI files, of which I have found 1 that looks like it's about an attempted UFO fraud from 1948.
Once again (unsurprisingly) you have misunderstood me. I said that your reference to the FBI reports was vague, not the reports themselves. And as I said, in the time I have had to look, I have only found one report that seems to be about an incident which eventually led to someone being convicted for fraud in 1952. I'll keep looking, but that's all I've found so far.
It is not my job to convince you or anyone of anything.
IF you really want to know about a subject DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!
I have no faith in anything only facts and evidence however you will piss on the prymids, Stonehenge, the Nasca Lines, And all of the Ancient accounts of flying vehicles and claim none of it is true.
You will also piss on the UFO's that were buzzing the whitehouse for over 4 hours in 1953 even though there are pictures of i!
@PastorIblis I've been doing my own research throughout our discussion and have yet to find any evidence that the bible describes alien encounters. Lots of interpretation, but no evidence. Since you are so convinced, I thought you would be able to point me in the right direction, but I'm becoming less and less confident that you have any evidence to show.
Pictures of alien encounters in 1953 (although I suspect you meant 1952), are evidence of what happened in 1953, but not in bible times.
That entire website is loaded with the hundreds of referances.
The thing to remember is the translations after KJV like the YLV is a piece of shit that changes what is there to beiing more along the lines of what the CHURCH approves of.
In the Youngs litteral version 2 samuel 24:1 they add the advasary to the calling for the census because it was a contradiction to have it being God there and Satan in 1 Cornicles 21:1 talking about the same event!
@PastorIblis There is no UFO. You've been brainwashed by the New Agers and NWO people who are advancing the alien hoax agenda. These are the bad guys, not us. They are all in secret societies. Angels and fallen angels are somehow aliens because they are non-earthlings and non-humans. But they don't come from another planet, or another galaxy. They come from the spiritual plane.Ezekiel chapter is not about UFO. You will see that kind of beast in Revelation. They are angelic beings...
@PastorIblis Why don't you go post that stuff elsewhere, huh? We talk about the Bible and the reconciliation of all things here. Not demonic aliens. CU is not new-age and people don't need your Luciferian stuff, your nonsense about the Lord God being a demonic alien and your story about alien hoax. Go see the new-agers and your satanist friends. I will not let you insult my Lord and Savior and His holy angels...
@PastorIblis "Your Fundimentalism will get you enslaved by your own stupidity!"
I am not a Fundamentalist! I am a Christian Universalist! I'd rather deal with Fundies than wackos spreading nonsense and lies about the Savior and His holy angels! You're the one being stupid! You ask for facts and evidence? If you are not born again of the Spirit and saved, you will never understanding. I gave you facts; space, time, matter, science, math and even humans (body-soul-spirit)...
@binkey Beware of the new ager and nwo false teachings. They are preparing a fake alien invasion and they are advancing their agenda. Search the Internet for "Project Blue Beam". Don't be deceived and trust in the Holy Spirit alone for these kind of things. Demonic spirits are real, but they are not aliens. Don't trust anyone talking about UFO. Put on the armor of God and pray...
@PastorIblis Buzzing the whitehouse? Use your brain? Who do you think is behind such secret projects, like Blue Beam, HAARP, Montauk, Monarch? It's a satanic deception to turn people away from God. You're the one who should do your own research and wake up soon, before you are completely brainwashed by the Illuminati and Freemasons. Do research on those secret projects, on the NWO, on chemtrails, on the Bohemian Grove and sun worshippers. I can't send you many videos. beenstudying thisfor6months
@Cutie9326 There is No Satan! That is a massive con that You bought into! The concept of Evil wasn't around until the 6th century BC. This is why All occurances of Evil being Crated, Brought, Sent, Caused in your bible all come from the Lord God! Not one occurance has anything evil being caused by a Satan. You have been studying for 6 Months I have been researching this for over 20 YEARS! You think you know it all! You don't know SHIT!
So long as you cling to religious conditioning you are blinded to who has created those myths.
I think it is great that you are looking into this but there are a great number of rabbit holes that go very very deep. 6 months is a drop in the bucket.
Hell i was a Christian till i was 24 and i began researching this shit at the age of 16.
The time frame that we have before shit hits the fan is very very short.
But no God or Jesus is going to fly in like superman to save the day
What seems more logical, sports444life, is that God will reveal Himself at the end of all things and you will finally know THE TRUTH, and there will be a place for you where God chastises your thoughtless deeds on earth and you will come to love God and accept his ways for they are right ways - and you will at some point in time - after this life - believe and be finally be enlightened and redeemed as promised. Amen!
I don't see how anyone could fully apply logic to a thing such as faith. Faith isn't logical. Is Hitler in heaven? I don't know. And neither do any of you. And no amount of debating is going to change that because (fun fact) no one's right.
I see many people saying "God love us, yet he desires for us to burn". This is not true at all. God loves us and he yearns for us to love him back. We either reject what he says and go to hell which is separation from him, or we accept him and we spend eternity with him. It's that simple. It seems like pride gets in the way of our thoughts, "oh no if we submit to someone we are no longer in control". This guy believes people like Hitler and Stalin are in Heaven... what seems more logical?
God has 10 laws that He wants you to keep, but if you fail to keep them perfectly, all the time, you'll end up in a horrible place, where you will be burned alive & scream in pain & agony that is indescribable, for all eternity...
If you visit the tentmaker777 youtube channel we have a lot of videos on this subject will help you. We also have a lot of written material. Just type in to google Tentmaker Ministries and our tentmaker site should come up.
Well, you're not the first person who has come along and held that view. Personally, I can't see it. But then there are many things my mind can't see or comprehend.
That would be due to the fact that you are so closed minded and brainwashed that you feel anyone that doesn't buy in to the same sadistic fantasies as you is on drugs.
Truth is i am a Soldier and i detest drugs.
I have ZERO respect for anyone that would fry their brain because they want to escape reality!
Religion is just another type of frying your brain to try and escape REALITY!
In the real world NO ONE CAN PAY FOR YOUR FUCK UPS BUT YOU!
@tentmaker777 "Why is it that I get the feeling you are smoking weed as you write?"
Pray for him, Gary. Maybe he's been under demonic oppression and he's scared to death. I have been for ten years and I've been attacked by evil spirits in my sleep. Believe me, it's really not funny. It wasn't for Jesus, I think they have completely drained me of my lifeforce. I've been attacked by Shadow People and a Reptilian. Thing is people call them aliens now, when they should stick to "demons"...
@PastorIblis You have been brainwashed by the New Agers who are Luciferian. God is God. The Annunaki are fallen angels and they serve Satan. Annunaki/fallen Seraphim/Reptilians are demons. God is the Creator of the universe and certainly not a demon. I suggest you repent and stop believing what the Luciferian New Agers tell you...
There is no creator of the universe as in a physical being that looks or thinks even remotely close to how we do.
Logic should tell you anything which is behind the universe and understands everything from the quantum level to the level of physical existence would be beyond giving a damn what beliefs (Thoughts) any of the biological life forms have!
The Gods of the bible are the Anunnaki and yes there was cross breeding going on.
Just because God reveals himself to you personally is no reason for anyone else to accept Him. Would it make you abandon God because God did not reveal Himself to me? Don't use your inward, unrepeatable, non-evidentiary, experience to convince anyone. That is a shameful deception.
Knowing that, why do you evangelize? (I suspect it is a way to earn a living off gullible people).
Did you really listen to anything on the video? Because your response seems to indicate you didn't. I'm quite sure that you share good things in your life with others. I do the same. And there is nothing "shameful" about that. Why do I share Christ? Because He is good and one day you will know that too. The Gospel is VERY repeatable, millions have experienced the transformation, but you refuse to believe. But one day He will open your eyes. til then peace to you.
@tentmaker777 I'll share with you one of the best moments of of my life. The moment I stopped believing in God. I started taking actual responsibility and did not rely on anyone (Jesus included) else to make amends for my transgressions.
That moment gave me more insight, more patience, and more love for my fellow human. I hope you have a "Julia Sweeney" moment too (look it up).
Thank you for teaching the true purpose of Hell, that is harmonious with the love, justice, grace, mercy, and sovereignty of God. Hell is ultimately a place of reconciliation, a place where someone like Hitler to see the error of his ways and finally see God, truth and repent. As every last creature of God will do!!! I do believe that torment will be felt, and it could be long before many finally decide to give in to God. But that is a result of one's resistance to God not some torturer.
@tentmaker777 I think you have made one assumption in this video that Athiests do not practice faith. I think the opposite is true. It is the religious that are attempting to put their faith in a higher power. Athiests put their faith in men which imo is much greater in the intention of faith since being men we know that even the strongest of us fall down. Which theory takes more faith mankind developed over billions of years or a pan dimensional super intellegent mouse created mankind? 42
The idea is that it takes more faith to be an athiest than to believe in intelligent design. Just like it would take more faith to believe that the Mona Lisa is a natural product of evolution over billions of years verses just believing that some guy named Leonardo Davinci painted it. Short of having a time machine there is no way I can directly witness the creation of the Mona Lisa so I have to trust the testimony of men. Each human being is infinitly more wonderfully made than the Mona Lisa
It is NOT faith but FACTS that we have discovered. I have NO FAITH ONLY FACTS! has been my response to Christians for at least 15 years.
It is Not faith that we have in others but trust that they will do the right thing. If their actions do not match with what is right we do not try and excuse the behavior through a dogma!
Trust is far different then the blinders of Faith!
I'm an atheist, but this man's passion and kindness is heartwarming. I'll stay with my beliefs and respectfully leave this man with his. May your God bless you!
I also wish more christians were like this man.
My atheism is not a reaction to the immorality of the bible, but a simple lack of belief.
@Lightmane321 Thank you so much, your compassion and kindness came through in your video and moved me. You seem like such a good person! God bless you, I wish you all the best, friend!
Please read the Bible here is the list of the kinds of people that will find themselves in Hell:
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
"After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made." - John F. Kennedy, August of 1945
yaerav You said "If all Christians were like this man, the world would be a better place"
How can a "Lie" be better than the truth. Now some of us "christians" are dogmatic, hard to talk to etc" but most of the time we tell the truth. THIS MAN IS LYING. He may be deceived or whatever. But the bible from Genesis to Revalation speaks of a HELL . Jesus spoke of it more than heaven. His love made him give His life to save you. "WHOEVER CALLS ON HIM TO SAVE THEM...HE WILL. ROMANS 10:9
In fact I am happy to say that aramaic bible is the oldest New Testament bible in the world. It does not teaches hell. My family came from the Nestorian church in northern Iran. One of the first church in Christianity which does not teach hell. So modern day Christianity is an invention to control people and I do not see love but hate and controled by hell-sayers.
let us see now.. god could not possibly exist due to a few simple points.. 1 is that "god is all knowing" so if this is the case he would know what choice you are going to make in life, and so you are saved or condemned before you are born, but if not, then he is not all knowing is he?... 2 with all the horrible things that happen in the world, why would he make good suffer and the bad happy? it is things like this that question the concept of "Christianity" and all of its counterparts...
spanish mommy of 2 he does not deny christ is the only way to God ...he just believes he died and saved all in the only way possible{THROUGH CHRIST} listen better! i am a mommy of 2 2! whitney
@yaerav HAHAHHAHHAHAHA are u stupid?? did u miss what he said in the beggining, he was a nazi and thought hitler was good, then to get a second chance since he know that everyone hates nazis he just makes up some stupid shit and uses Christianity as cover!! and many many of stupid christians that believe in jesus and god, think this man is good now. Retards to max
So do you reject the Bible? You don't? The Bible is full of violence committed by this so called father-god and the hell well described in the new Testament.
GOD IS LOVE AND MERCY ITSELF! he created hell for the devil and his angels, not for us. but it is through our sins that make hell open to us! this man is so blinded by the truth ... they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore, God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: that all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity." - 2 Thessalonians 2: 10-11
He was talking about judiasm...law...read your bible in context av3r..That they {is jews of his day}....received not...the belief in the law and rejection of christ they died in the destruction of israel...temple..and they were judged dont add or take away from what it says...
This guys is one big contradiction! He is so decieved! He does not know God! Read the BIBLE to really KNOW GOD! JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD...you can not go to heaven with out BELIEVING in HIM! Develop a relationship with God for YOURSELF. Read HIS word...the Holy Bible. Start with the book of John. Don't listen to this guy...Don't be deceived!
Yes, all man who BELIEVE in jesus christ WILL be drawn unto him. This man thinks that god takes sin as a little joke! SATAN'S greatest weapon is to make people think that he doesnt exist! when people think that he doesnt exist, there is no fear of hell, nor eternal death, because you cast it aside as a myth!
Dictionary - Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth of or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing
Is that good enough for you?
This guy is a joke, as an Atheist we have faith in people,and we understand this, we just don't have faith or trust in your fictious control freak of a god
I just bought a dozen puppies - I own them, they BELONG to me. They're really cute, but most of them are less grateful than I think they should be, and some even fail to obey me. So I'm gonna put them in a metal garbage can, sprinkle them with gasoline, and burn them. Not all at once, just a little every day to see how long I can keep them squealing and squirming. I'm not God so it won't be for ever, but I'll do my best... Hey, I love 'em!
@Imaginefree69 I've seen your video and your comment about the puppies. I felt the same way you did. But God is not the monster the Damnationists make Him out to be. Study the early church history and the original languages of the Bible. All will be saved and none will be forever lost...
"I can't give you my faith in god,that faith was a gift through Jesus Christ,I didn't earn it"
So Jesus has nothing better to do than pick who's in & who's out.
If this garbage is to be believed, god sought me out & de-converted me when I was 10. He repossessed his "gift" of my faith & refused to give it back no matter how I tried to get it.
God broke my devout mother's heart,not me. She'll be glad to hear it.
YES God is love, but God is also JUST. It would go against His nature to say, "Because I love you more than anything, then you don't have to be punished for rejecting and disobeying Me"
Yes. And most universalists would agree with that. Loving punishment serves a corrective purpose... endless torments cannot be loving, and they are found no where in the original greek of the new testament.
i beg to differ in that according to the original greek word for "tormented" (as in rev. 20:10) in the concordance"basanizo",means exactly that, torment; in pain; suffering.
Mark 3:29 "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an ETERNAL sin"
if you say that everyone eventually goes to heaven, then why was Jesus and the disciples so urgent to spread the word of God?what would be the point of fulfilling the Great Commission if souls weren't at steak?
Because your KJV bible is ALL twisted. You need to understand that my people who were the lost tribe of Isreal, converted into Messianic. Read the aramaic bible (if you understand it) it does not teaches hell. Nor Jews believe in HELL, because it's not in the torah.
@nyonan You don't believe in Hell? I hope you don't go there. I don't even read the bible as I should. I'm not a perfect Christian but Hell is very very real. Everyone should open their eyes and heart and stop denying that Hell does not exist cause it does. We're just scared of the truth. All spiritual beings good and evil believes God, Jesus, Heaven, and Hell exist. Us humans have different beliefs of what happens after life. I just feel a debate is about to happen after I send this =P
@xrc80 Hell is only real to those who believe it exists. You live your life in fear of it. You fear death because of it. I do not believe in hell. I live my life in love not fear. I do not fear death because death is final there is no after.
In fact, also I have an Aramaic bible it does not teach hell. Greek bible comes from the aramaic bible, but the greek bible I would be careful. Hell is pagan and a FAKE!
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
jesus also said that he wasn't there to bring peace, but a sword. He wanted to turn families against eachother. He also said that if you love your child more than him, you dont deserve salvation.... ummm fuck you, jesus!
In fact, my bible says it different. Although similar from the Aramaic texts. We can not ignored the fact that, there is punishment... not the punishment that you believe in! The punishment is going to be a point where ppl will have to owe back to God while in prison. In the end, everyone will be in Heaven. I would not like to get into the punishment, but people will have different level of punishment.
Thats correct God did create us for love/ love meaning to love him , and all you have to do is genuinly believe in his son dieing for us on the cross for our sins/ and try to do the right thing then u are saved. PLz actually read this comment because the end beckons near
This God didn't creat man, we evolved over time. Man will end sometime in the distant future and the next dominate life would be some kind of bug or something. Sweet dreams baby!!!
Many are called but few are choosen. We have free will. Please make the right choice. God bless and protect you sir. Jesus is Lord. I have scientific proof
He became an atheist and than became christian??? I think hes becaming a liar. And if hes not, hes horribly confused.
TheCaptainLulz 2 months ago
@TheCaptainLulz Strong statement from a person who does not really know me and probably from someone who knows the Bible says "Judge not, for in the way you judge YOU will be judged." Thankfully, God is love, a love that never fails and for whom nothing is impossible. Even a judgmental person like yourself will ultimately receive mercy that you don't deserve.
tentmaker777 2 months ago
well said: "when you meet love, you cannot resist .... and it will find you"
great message
LoveGodEndlessly 4 months ago
Great thoughts. Way to say things most Christians won't talk talk about!
whatthehellbook . com
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
Man why are there still so many people running around thinking they aren't responsible for their actions?
dbfan2scfan 6 months ago
The doctrine of the Reconciliation of all things can prove the Trinity too and the other way around! Heaven-earth-hell/LOF. Since we experience we experience heaven and hell in this life to some degree, those pleace are tied. And all those who are in heaven, and on the earth and under the earth will be reconciled back to God, every knee shall bow, all tongues shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!
Thanks for the revelation, Jesus!!! :) :) :)
Cutie9326 9 months ago
Gary, I would also like to add this about Hitler and the church. Mainstream christianity is fast to condemming Hitler to eternal suffering in fire. The only difference between Hitler and the church is that Hitler at least killed his victims before he put them in the ovens.
SwordofManticorE 10 months ago
@SwordofManticorE Never had a truer word...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
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PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION IF IT IS A YES.
DID YOU FIGURE THIS OUT AFTER YOU HAD BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH TRADITIONS OF MAN AND THE INCONSISTENCY OF THEIR DOCTRINE?
DID Matthew 7:7 JUST LITERALLY JUMP OF THE PAGE FOR YALL?
TheOkstate2012 1 year ago
@PastorIblis First of all, you are misinterpreting Genesis 6:3. It doesn't mean humans are also flesh like God, but rather humans are not only spirit, but also flesh. Second I don't understand the point you are trying to make about the time limit.
But, more to the point, I didn't ask you for further "evidence" for your interpretation of the bible, I asked you to explain how the points you already brought up (Sumerian mythology and the meaning of Hebrew words) support your argument.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Clearly you do not know how to read.
NOWHERE in Genesis 6:3 does it say that humans are a spirit thing.
Infact the word Spirit in Genesis 6:3 is the Hebrew word rooakh and means wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation
IT DOES NOT MEAN A GHOST OR SPOOKY THING!
Clearly you do not know even BASIC study tools like a Strongs Concordance yet you want to act like a fucking expert!
Try educating yourself and not trying to teach a teacher!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Wow you're a teacher, eh? And do you find that swearing at your students is an effective way of teaching? But should I expect more from one who tries to win arguments (with tentmaker777) by calling on that old comment section chestnut the Nazis?
By the way I'm sure since you're an expert, you know that many translations don't even use the word "also", so I'm surprised you put so much importance on it.
Still, I'm starting to feel like you're avoiding my original question.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Frankly i do not care about the various shit translations. The Original 1611 verion which was the original to english is all that really matters given those other shit translation don't have a concordance that you can take the words back to their original language.
Which means the so called translation is meaningless!
You are a stupid blind sheep.
As for my choice of words i am not going to candy coat shit with you retards.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis May I suggest you try a little fact checking before making claims. A quick Google search tells me that there are at least 2 concordances published for the New International Version, a published and online version for the English Standard and Young did his own concordance to go with his translation.
I don't actually care how offensively you address me (I'm much more amused than I am offended), but I don't think your demeanour is going to help you win anyone over.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
I am aware there are other concordances but the best is the Strongs.
The one way i heard it put and makes sense is Young's for the Young or Child.
Strong's for the Strong or Adult!
If you want to be a baby and not understand what the fuck is going on that is fine.
You will not understand what these stories are telling you.
Sleep on baby.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis To quote you, "those... translations don't have a concordance..." Followed by, "I am aware that there are other concordances..." If the second statement is true, why make the first? Why not state from the start that you think Strong's is the best? Either you were making a false statement the first time and hoped I wouldn't know or think to check, or you are embarrassed by your lack of knowledge and covering that up with your second statement. Either way, it hurts your credibility.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
If you wish to you a concordance intended for CHILDREN that is fine be a baby I don't care. I frankly don't give two shits if what you think.
I present the case and then let you make up your own mind.
I am not concerned about what you believe or don't.
The evidence is out there but you wish to remain like ignorant so good luck with that.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis I'm not using Young's concordance. I only brought it up to counter your claim that the KJV is the only bible that has a concordance.
You, have not presented the case. At best you've presented an opening argument.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Use whatever concordance you wish I frankly don't care.
You clearly have this need to try and battle over something to which you don't study in the first place.
Which indicates to me that you are a troll and looking to just find a cause to argue and i refuse to play your stupid game!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis New International:
Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
English Standard:
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.”
Young's Literal Translation:
And Jehovah saith, 'My Spirit doth not strive in man -- to the age; in their erring they are flesh:' and his days have been an hundred and twenty years.
To quote but a few.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Clearly you want to use the that's a poor translation defense which is among the weakest of the moronic christian claims.
I have seen this type shit all the time. You will cherry pick the version you want to use based on what suits your dogma.
Get a clue idiot there are over 360 referances to clouds, thrones, Chariots as vehicles,
Genesis 6:3 is just one of HUNDREDS of places.
Frankly you want to be an ignorant troll as t what you worship fine!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Repeating what you said the first time does not in any way explain why references to clouds, thrones and chariots are evidence of aliens.
Thanks, by the way for bringing up the concordance over and over again. It prompted me to look up "also". It's from the Hebrew "gam", which means also in the sense of "moreover" or "indeed" and not the "as well as" sense that you're using it.
By the way, I'm an atheist, but unlike you I don't feel the need to replace god with little green men.
binkey 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Also, I'm starting to think you are intentionally avoiding my original question. But I'll ask it yet again, in case I'm not being clear. How does your mention of the Sumerians, and your (selective) definitions of the Hebrew words for Heaven, Hell, Soul and Spirit amount to evidence that the bible is talking about aliens?
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
It is called you must look at the WHOLE picture not just pieces here and there.
There are over 360 referances to clouds, thrones, chariots as vehicles.
The conception of Jesus fits with what people today discribe as Alien Abductions.
If you wish to remain ignorant and act like nothig exists then sleep on i frankly do not give a fuck.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis You sir are amazing. So, I guess the answer to are you going to answer my original question is no.
Who cares if there are a lot of references to clouds in the bible? The only thing that is evidence of is that we live on a cloudy planet. So remove those and you've got however many chariot and throne references. Now, unless the alien craft looked like flying chariots and thrones (which is nothing like what modern accounts of them are), why would they be described that way?
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
You are one stupid fool
The so called gods were deplicted with wings.
Wings are a SYMBOL which is still used to this day in the MILITARY!
WINGS DENOTE FLIGHT!
Symbols are used to convey an idea it doesn't mean the symbol is LITTERALLY what they are trying to say existed.
A person with wings is someone that had the ability of Flight.
It doesn't mean they had fucking wings out of their back.
They would also use terms and discriptions which THEY UNDERSTOOD!
RETARD!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Yes people use symbols all the time, but why would the ancient Hebrews have used symbols to describe what they saw every single time? It is a horrible way to communicate and has (according to you) led to a huge misunderstanding of what the bible is trying to tell us. If, even once there was a verse that physically described a UFO and then referred to it as a flying chariot after which every other reference could be understood in that context, I would understand.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
The discription were different most likely because the size and shape of the craft was different.
Some UFO's are cigar shaped
Others are triagnle shaped
Still others are disk shaped
There is no just one type of UFO just as there is not just one type of plane.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis I think you missed my point. I wasn't asking why the descriptions were different, I was asking why they didn't, not even once, describe these UFOs in anything but a symbolic/metaphorical way. If they had done that, then I could understand the use of symbol and metaphor throughout the rest of the bible. But why would they be vague and unclear by using symbolic language throughout the entire bible?
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Being an Atheist doesn't mean BEING STUPID!
I am an Atheist i am just not a moron like you clearly are.
If you wish to remain ignorant to the Alien issue in our world that is fine i don't care it doesn't effect my life one bit. In fact you can bow to them and serve them i frankly don't give two shits. Your asshole nature is no sweat off my ass.
I have done my research and I know what is going on.
You want to be an ass fine be an ass I don't care.
I am done with you TROLL
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis So far, in your posts, you have done nothing to explain your position. You've just been belligerent and made statements that, no matter how much you claim they do, don't demonstrate your point.
I don't think that the assumption of Jesus is a true story that needs to be explained as something other than supernatural causes. I think the entire story is nonsense. Since you believe it is true, but actually depicts an alien abduction, what is your evidence?
binkey 1 year ago
@PastorIblis
If you don't have any, than your faith in aliens is no different than tentmaker777's faith in god.
If you do, why not share it? If you want to argue that I'm just lazy and should do the research myself, that's fine, but then why bother posting anything in the first place?
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
I have no faith only facts.
However I equally have no desire to deal with retards that can't use common fucking sense.
It is not hard to see the connections and to see the metaphores and symbolism that has been used.
But you wish to remain ignorant so GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis I will grant you that it's easy to interpret the bible the way you do. It's very easy interpret the symbols and metaphors of the bible to be an indication of alien encounters. But being able to interpret it that way does not make it true. So, I'll ask you one more time, where is your evidence? I'm not talking about textual evidence from the bible itself, because even if you are right about what the bible is trying to communicate, that does not make it true.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
All i care to do is explain my position. i do not give a fuck what you think.
The evidence is out there but I have utterly no desire to force feed it to you.
If you want to act like a baby spitting up the creamed carrots I will walk away and let you starve.
I just don't give a fuck!
Enjoy your ignorance asshole.
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Fine, but then I have to ask, why refer to yourself as a teacher? And, why even post in the first place?
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
A teacher will present information but NO ONE CAN FORCE YOU TO ACCEPT THAT INFORMATION!
The choice to accept or reject information is on YOU!
The teacher is only there to present the information!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis Look, I know you think that I'm just trying to get under your skin and pick a fight, but really I'm not, I just don't see what evidence you have for your position. If the fact that you can interpret the bible as accounts of visiting aliens is all you need to believe in ancient alien encounters, then that's fine just say the bible is proof enough for you.
binkey 1 year ago
@PastorIblis But for me, I need evidence outside of the bible if I am going to find your position (or the Christian one for that matter) credible. So, all I'm asking is, if you have other evidence, can you please point me in that direction?
(But if, you'd rather just swear at me and call stupid, feel free to do that instead.)
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
There are TONS of examples of UFO's outside of the bible.
So much that if you are to ignorant to look at it you are intentionally stupid.
And I have no time for those who choose to be morons!
I just hope whatever aliens are going to be here in 2012 aren't the Reptilians or greys.
You fools will not be prepared to fight for freedom so you best pray to whatever fantasy shit you believe in that the ones that show up aren't looking to make us their slaves!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis I wasn't asking for any examples of UFOs, but for examples that corroborate your interpretation of the bible. We may be experiencing constant visits from aliens today and if you showed me concrete evidence that every UFO encounter for the last 50 years was in fact an alien encounter, that would do nothing to prove that aliens have been visiting the earth for 1000s of years.
binkey 1 year ago
@PastorIblis You have been brainwashed. Holy angels and Demonic spirits are not aliens and you would do well to do research on Project Blue Beam and the NWO on the Internet. I can send you some video if you want...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
I have been researching this shit for over 20 years!
I love hosw snot nose punk kids think they have ALL the answers when really you don't know shit!
What you fail to realize is the technology the government uses came from Aliens!
Research Phil Schender, William Cooper, Project Jehovah, Jordan Maxwell!
You have bought into the brainwashing that the Government created to control the sheep!
Religion is a scam!
It is all controled by the Illuminati / Freemasions
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@binkey Evidence of God outside the Bible? Do research on historical proof about Jesus, look in science, mathematic and nature. They have prove the existence of Divine creation by now. Oh, I will send you a video with proofs. Then you can research them...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326 Thanks, but no thanks. I've done the research and there is very little historical evidence for Jesus outside the bible. There is enough to suggest that a man named Jesus may have lived at that time and may have been executed by the Romans, but no credible historical reference to his miraculous deeds, resurrection, etc. As to "science, mathematics and nature" I'm pretty sure our standards of evidence must be different.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
You seriously think you KNOW IT ALL after 6 months!
LMFAO!
You stupid ignorant child!
There is a great deal more but You will never see it because You worship the Church!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis
A. I wasn't addressing you.
B. Whose ass did you pull "6 months" out of?
C. Last time I subjected myself to your barrage of insults I think I was pretty clear that I'm an atheist. (But, maybe the aliens erased that from your memory.)
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
That message was to the cutie idiot.
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Well, then I guess you shouldn't have addressed it to me.
I see that your gentle demeanour hasn't changed since we corresponded. Tell me, does being a belligerent asshole afford you some kind of magical protection from the aliens or is it just in your nature to be a prick?
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
Listen Fucktard You are Clearly a little asshole that can't grasp Shit happens!
You are nothing but an IMMATURE fucking child!
Frankly your rejection of the EVIDENCE is proof you do NOT want to know the TRUTH!
Have you seen the FBI papers that are on the subject of UFO's!
The FBI has documents which are undenyable EVIDENCE that our the US Government has known about the UFO / Alien issue for quite some time!
YOU refuse to look at the FACTS!
You are nothing but a TROLL!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@binkey
The Truth is dumbass there is a Mountain of Evidence that PROVE UFO'S and the ET issue is quite real!
The fact that dumbasses like YOU want to act like it is magic bullshit related shows you are using Atheism as a Security blanket!
There is No God!
A more advanced life form in the universe IS NOT A GOD YOU RETARD!
It is also EXTREMELY arrogant for fuckers like YOU to IGNORE hundreds of High level Government / Military witnesses!
People with HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE!
DUMBFUCK
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Fine, but has it ever occurred to you that people might be more willing to listen to you if you didn't address people with such utter contempt? But I don't think you're actually interested in convincing people of your point of view. All you seem to want to do is be a shrill, overbearing jerk. If I'm wrong maybe you could try treating people with the common decency the average person deserves to be treated with, but if I'm right, could you please just shut the fuck up.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
When You want to be a DUMBASS and act like the existence of a More advance life form is MAGIC bullshit show YOU want to be a fucking ass!
So I have nothing but contempt for someone so fucking stupid as to think no other life could have evolved.
IT ISN'T MAGIC YOU STUPID FUCK!
This is WHY I have Contempt for jackasses like YOU!
You use Atheism to hide behind because you do not want to face reality!
You Want those who know more then you to Shut up!
Well TO BAD ASSHOLE!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis
I don't actually believe in magic or think that you do. You've heard of sarcasm haven't you? I was being sarcastic.
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but I never claimed to think the Earth is the only place where life has evolved. But the universe is so large that even if there are a million other civilizations out there, the chances of them encountering us is minuscule. Now point me to some actual evidence and I'll listen. But as usual I'm sure you won't.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
Then other then being a STUPID fucking ASS what EXACTLY was your point in this statement?
"does being a belligerent asshole afford you some kind of magical protection from the aliens"
I Have nothing but Contempt for those STUPID ENOUGH to try and say that the existence of a Higher Evolved life form gives anyone MAGICAL protection!
You simply want to act like an ASS then be all BOOHOO when you are told you are acting like an ASS!
Atheist doesn't means ASSHOLE!
But You are one!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis
Again, the point was sarcasm. Have you heard of sarcasm? (And I didn't suggest it was your belief in aliens, but your belligerent assholery that gave you magical powers.)
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
It is not putting words in your mouth to bitch slap you based on the Stupid shit You Say!
For anyone to claim that there is No evidence of Aliens or UFO's is Simply wanting to Ignore Anything that doesn't fit into their own Ignorant view!
At NO TIME have I said ANY Alien race is a God!
Nor do i regard it as any Angel or Demon thing!
But that doesn't stop YOU from being a Fucking ASS!
So Don't cry to me when i bitch slap you because YOU are intentionally IGNORANT!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis At no point did I say that we are the only life in the universe, so when you say "So I have nothing but contempt for someone ... [who thinks] no other life could have evolved," you are by definition putting words in my mouth.
Never said you thought aliens were gods, angels or demons, but you know, thanks for clarifying.
Now, every piece of "evidence" I've seen is either obviously falsified, or not evidence but a badly formed conclusion, so I ask again, show me some evidence.
binkey 9 months ago
@PastorIblis But you won't show me evidence will you? Because you don't actually have any do you? All you have is aggressiveness and abusive language.
I'm starting to think you're actually doing some sort of extended performance art piece.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
Watch the video called the Disclosure project!
That is a group of Hundreds of High level government security giving first hand accounts as well as having documentation to prove their claims!
There is also the files the FBI has released!
Those are a good start!
You think there is NOTHING!
You want to act like YOU KNOSW IT ALL!
When really You don't know shit!
Don't try and act like this is Magical shit when YOU REFUSE to look at the Evidence!
Asshole!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Okay, I watched the disclosure project press conference and then looked up the guy who put it on, Dr. Steven Greer and discovered that he once presented a picture of a moth and told people it was an image of an "alien light being". So I'll do some more research into the other presenters, but already the credibility of this thing is looking bad.
binkey 9 months ago
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@binkey
I never said ALL UFO reports are true or Alien ideas but You want to act like ALL of them are false.
Which Both claims are based on prejudice / ignorance!
When YOU act like an Ass you should expect someone that knows the truth to Bitch slap you stupid ass in line!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis i have never said they are all false. I said everything I have found doesn't stand up to scrutiny. All I've been doing (for what seems live forever) is asking for you to share some evidence.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
In case typing in Disclosure Project is To HARD for you
watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Wow that only took about three months.
And this has been driving me buts for a while, so I just have to tell you, it's "too", not "to".
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
you Stupid ASS
Perhaps if you wouldn't act like a FUCKTARD that is more interested in BEING AN ASSHOLE you could find this on your own!
I shouldn't have to Hold your fucking hand!
I know you are a BRAINLESS CHILD that needs to have everything GIVEN TO YOU!
You are MORE interested in being an ASSHOLE then you are anything!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis I don't need everything given to me, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and when someone tells me stuff that I find unbelievable, I ask that they give me some evidence before I waste my time doing my own research on the subject (especially when the person making such claims is rude, belligerent and doesn't know how to write properly in his -- presumably -- native language).
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
The problem with Dumbasses like you that want to use the Extraordinary claim defense You fuckers Never Establish what Extraordinary evidence is.
That is kept as a forever shifting bar that you can make up what suits you.
Add to that You Could Do a Search online about the subject!
You don't have to wait for someone to Hand it all to you. Like a stupid child that can't think for themself!
The truth is You don't want to know otherwise YOU would research it!
You are an Asshole
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis
You missed my point yet again.
Why would I bother doing research on a subject shouted at me from a bullying prick, who can't even be bothered to support his abusively presented arguments with any sort of facts or evidence?
Well now you finally have put forward some evidence and it's a press conference presented by a charlatan and vague references to FBI files, of which I have found 1 that looks like it's about an attempted UFO fraud from 1948.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
What it boils down to is You Are Desperate to dismiss anything WITHOUT LOOKING AT A GOD DAMN THING!
You have already made up your little mind BASED ON WHAT OTHERS SAY!
You DO NOT look at the FACTS!
You Are no different then Fundi Christians that Only see what they WANT to see!
You REFUSE to Define what "Extraordinary evidence" Is because then you would either be exposing that you have MAGICAL THINKING!
Whating So called Evidence that is MAGICAL in nature!
Or NONE AT ALL!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@binkey
Further more the FBI reports that have just been released are anything but Vauge!
However I would bet You wouldn't take the time to Look at the Evidence because YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!
You Only want to TROLL!
If you would be interested in a subject the fact that I find you to be a fucking asshole wouldn't matter.
You would want to know because YOU WANT TO KNOW!
Not because of ME!
I AM JUST YOUR EXCUSE!
You are a SCARED ASSHOLE!
You are Afraid of what you could find!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis
Once again (unsurprisingly) you have misunderstood me. I said that your reference to the FBI reports was vague, not the reports themselves. And as I said, in the time I have had to look, I have only found one report that seems to be about an incident which eventually led to someone being convicted for fraud in 1952. I'll keep looking, but that's all I've found so far.
binkey 9 months ago
@binkey
There are a shit load on the FBI website.
There is also the case of UFO's Buzzing the Whitehouse in 1952 or 1953
There are also cases mentioned in the disclosure project of Missles being deactivated by a UFO.
In short there is an overwhelming amount of evidence.
I do not say all claims are real but there are far to many from highly trained professionals to completely dismiss.
Add to that the fact that other governments like Mexico aren't trying to cover this up!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@binkey
I honestly don't give a damn.
It is not my job to convince you or anyone of anything.
IF you really want to know about a subject DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!
I have no faith in anything only facts and evidence however you will piss on the prymids, Stonehenge, the Nasca Lines, And all of the Ancient accounts of flying vehicles and claim none of it is true.
You will also piss on the UFO's that were buzzing the whitehouse for over 4 hours in 1953 even though there are pictures of i!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis I've been doing my own research throughout our discussion and have yet to find any evidence that the bible describes alien encounters. Lots of interpretation, but no evidence. Since you are so convinced, I thought you would be able to point me in the right direction, but I'm becoming less and less confident that you have any evidence to show.
Pictures of alien encounters in 1953 (although I suspect you meant 1952), are evidence of what happened in 1953, but not in bible times.
binkey 1 year ago
@binkey
Try bible UFO dot com.
That entire website is loaded with the hundreds of referances.
The thing to remember is the translations after KJV like the YLV is a piece of shit that changes what is there to beiing more along the lines of what the CHURCH approves of.
In the Youngs litteral version 2 samuel 24:1 they add the advasary to the calling for the census because it was a contradiction to have it being God there and Satan in 1 Cornicles 21:1 talking about the same event!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@binkey
Given facts like that one must seriously doubt the translation versions like youngs and so forth.
But if you are looking to ignore a subject then you will find ways to ignore even the most obvious evidence.
Ezekiel chapter 1 is all about a UFO but if you want to think it is some magical thing then that is what you will make yourself see.
Which is why I can only present the facts and let you do with it what you will because I can't and don't care to control how you think!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis There is no UFO. You've been brainwashed by the New Agers and NWO people who are advancing the alien hoax agenda. These are the bad guys, not us. They are all in secret societies. Angels and fallen angels are somehow aliens because they are non-earthlings and non-humans. But they don't come from another planet, or another galaxy. They come from the spiritual plane.Ezekiel chapter is not about UFO. You will see that kind of beast in Revelation. They are angelic beings...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
The differences is Evidence and the truth is You only have an ancient book which is a collection of Stollen ideas and FEAR mongering.
There are NO angels!
Wings were a common symbol used on the deities to denote Flight!
Pilots and those in the military have Wings on their uniform.
You do not understand the symbolism behind what is going on.
Your Fundimentalism will get you enslaved by your own stupidity!
I am not brainwashed at all.
I look at FACTS and EVIDENCE!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Why don't you go post that stuff elsewhere, huh? We talk about the Bible and the reconciliation of all things here. Not demonic aliens. CU is not new-age and people don't need your Luciferian stuff, your nonsense about the Lord God being a demonic alien and your story about alien hoax. Go see the new-agers and your satanist friends. I will not let you insult my Lord and Savior and His holy angels...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
First of all This is still a FREE SITE!
You Fuckers DO NOT control me!
You Worship Aliens!
You Praise Tyrany!
Hell Your refering to muliple imaginary deities in your statement which is a pantheon!
You are just to Stupid to realize this!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis "Your Fundimentalism will get you enslaved by your own stupidity!"
I am not a Fundamentalist! I am a Christian Universalist! I'd rather deal with Fundies than wackos spreading nonsense and lies about the Savior and His holy angels! You're the one being stupid! You ask for facts and evidence? If you are not born again of the Spirit and saved, you will never understanding. I gave you facts; space, time, matter, science, math and even humans (body-soul-spirit)...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
You try and use Circular reasoning and a God wins by default attitude which shows how utterly stupid you really are!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
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Cutie9326 9 months ago
@binkey Beware of the new ager and nwo false teachings. They are preparing a fake alien invasion and they are advancing their agenda. Search the Internet for "Project Blue Beam". Don't be deceived and trust in the Holy Spirit alone for these kind of things. Demonic spirits are real, but they are not aliens. Don't trust anyone talking about UFO. Put on the armor of God and pray...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@PastorIblis Buzzing the whitehouse? Use your brain? Who do you think is behind such secret projects, like Blue Beam, HAARP, Montauk, Monarch? It's a satanic deception to turn people away from God. You're the one who should do your own research and wake up soon, before you are completely brainwashed by the Illuminati and Freemasons. Do research on those secret projects, on the NWO, on chemtrails, on the Bohemian Grove and sun worshippers. I can't send you many videos. beenstudying thisfor6months
Cutie9326 9 months ago
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@PastorIblis You just keep lying and contradicting yourself. I'm not interested in talking with you anymore. End of dicussion.
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
So long as you cling to religious conditioning you are blinded to who has created those myths.
I think it is great that you are looking into this but there are a great number of rabbit holes that go very very deep. 6 months is a drop in the bucket.
Hell i was a Christian till i was 24 and i began researching this shit at the age of 16.
The time frame that we have before shit hits the fan is very very short.
But no God or Jesus is going to fly in like superman to save the day
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@binkey
I am not replacing the god with aliens i am simply pointing out that is what this figure is in these stories.
The god of the OT was discribed Physically over and over and fucking over again.
There is no so called spiritual god in the OT!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
What seems more logical, sports444life, is that God will reveal Himself at the end of all things and you will finally know THE TRUTH, and there will be a place for you where God chastises your thoughtless deeds on earth and you will come to love God and accept his ways for they are right ways - and you will at some point in time - after this life - believe and be finally be enlightened and redeemed as promised. Amen!
RationalPrejudice 1 year ago
I don't see how anyone could fully apply logic to a thing such as faith. Faith isn't logical. Is Hitler in heaven? I don't know. And neither do any of you. And no amount of debating is going to change that because (fun fact) no one's right.
GuerrillaStateOfMind 1 year ago
I see many people saying "God love us, yet he desires for us to burn". This is not true at all. God loves us and he yearns for us to love him back. We either reject what he says and go to hell which is separation from him, or we accept him and we spend eternity with him. It's that simple. It seems like pride gets in the way of our thoughts, "oh no if we submit to someone we are no longer in control". This guy believes people like Hitler and Stalin are in Heaven... what seems more logical?
sports444life 1 year ago
George Carlin said it best (paraphrased)
God has 10 laws that He wants you to keep, but if you fail to keep them perfectly, all the time, you'll end up in a horrible place, where you will be burned alive & scream in pain & agony that is indescribable, for all eternity...
but He loves you
Lightmane321 1 year ago
thank God u put this video up- i was seriously confused with all the 'burn in hell' videos which are a contradiction to what Jesus taught- love.
IANC4EVER 1 year ago
@IANC4EVER
If you visit the tentmaker777 youtube channel we have a lot of videos on this subject will help you. We also have a lot of written material. Just type in to google Tentmaker Ministries and our tentmaker site should come up.
tentmaker777 1 year ago
The God of the bible IF you really examine what is written is an Alien race.
The ancient Sumerians called them the Anunnaki.
If you look up the hebrew meaning of Heaven, Hell, Soul, & Spirit you will see the bible is Not about some God of the universe.
Heaven means THE SKY!!
Hell means THE GRAVE!!
Soul means A BREATHING CREATURE!!
Spirit means WIND or BREATH!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis
Well, you're not the first person who has come along and held that view. Personally, I can't see it. But then there are many things my mind can't see or comprehend.
tentmaker777 1 year ago
@tentmaker777
It is not hard to find exactly what I said and see it for yourself.
All you need to do is look up the Hebrew words in a strongs concordance.
The biggest problem with theists is they are just to LAZY to do the little biit of research necessary to see the truth for themself.
It is far easier to go along to get along. Not realizing that is Exactly what Hitlers soldiers did.
Their following orders didn't make what they did ok.
The same is true for YOU!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@PastorIblis
Why is it that I get the feeling you are smoking weed as you write?
tentmaker777 1 year ago
@tentmaker777
That would be due to the fact that you are so closed minded and brainwashed that you feel anyone that doesn't buy in to the same sadistic fantasies as you is on drugs.
Truth is i am a Soldier and i detest drugs.
I have ZERO respect for anyone that would fry their brain because they want to escape reality!
Religion is just another type of frying your brain to try and escape REALITY!
In the real world NO ONE CAN PAY FOR YOUR FUCK UPS BUT YOU!
DEAL WITH LIFE!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
@tentmaker777 "Why is it that I get the feeling you are smoking weed as you write?"
Pray for him, Gary. Maybe he's been under demonic oppression and he's scared to death. I have been for ten years and I've been attacked by evil spirits in my sleep. Believe me, it's really not funny. It wasn't for Jesus, I think they have completely drained me of my lifeforce. I've been attacked by Shadow People and a Reptilian. Thing is people call them aliens now, when they should stick to "demons"...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@PastorIblis You have been brainwashed by the New Agers who are Luciferian. God is God. The Annunaki are fallen angels and they serve Satan. Annunaki/fallen Seraphim/Reptilians are demons. God is the Creator of the universe and certainly not a demon. I suggest you repent and stop believing what the Luciferian New Agers tell you...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
There is no creator of the universe as in a physical being that looks or thinks even remotely close to how we do.
Logic should tell you anything which is behind the universe and understands everything from the quantum level to the level of physical existence would be beyond giving a damn what beliefs (Thoughts) any of the biological life forms have!
The Gods of the bible are the Anunnaki and yes there was cross breeding going on.
Genesis6:3 the Lord God admits man is also flesh
PastorIblis 9 months ago
@Cutie9326
I strongly suggest you dig your head out of your ass and stop buying into Thought Crime and Worshipping Tyrants!
It is far to late in the game to be fucking around with My bible says so shit!
Your bible is a stollen collection of stories.
Haven't you noticed the Alien activity in this planet is increasing.
The ancient Gods (Aliens) are going to return and they are looking for SLAVES!
All through your bible it says YOU ARE A SLAVE!
Wake Up!
PastorIblis 9 months ago
"Fear of God is good?" What, are you kidding me?
Just because God reveals himself to you personally is no reason for anyone else to accept Him. Would it make you abandon God because God did not reveal Himself to me? Don't use your inward, unrepeatable, non-evidentiary, experience to convince anyone. That is a shameful deception.
Knowing that, why do you evangelize? (I suspect it is a way to earn a living off gullible people).
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
@drfoxcourt
Did you really listen to anything on the video? Because your response seems to indicate you didn't. I'm quite sure that you share good things in your life with others. I do the same. And there is nothing "shameful" about that. Why do I share Christ? Because He is good and one day you will know that too. The Gospel is VERY repeatable, millions have experienced the transformation, but you refuse to believe. But one day He will open your eyes. til then peace to you.
tentmaker777 1 year ago
@tentmaker777 I'll share with you one of the best moments of of my life. The moment I stopped believing in God. I started taking actual responsibility and did not rely on anyone (Jesus included) else to make amends for my transgressions.
That moment gave me more insight, more patience, and more love for my fellow human. I hope you have a "Julia Sweeney" moment too (look it up).
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
Nobody deserves anything.
TheCarydal 1 year ago
Thank you for teaching the true purpose of Hell, that is harmonious with the love, justice, grace, mercy, and sovereignty of God. Hell is ultimately a place of reconciliation, a place where someone like Hitler to see the error of his ways and finally see God, truth and repent. As every last creature of God will do!!! I do believe that torment will be felt, and it could be long before many finally decide to give in to God. But that is a result of one's resistance to God not some torturer.
ZoeGnosis 1 year ago
@tentmaker777 I think you have made one assumption in this video that Athiests do not practice faith. I think the opposite is true. It is the religious that are attempting to put their faith in a higher power. Athiests put their faith in men which imo is much greater in the intention of faith since being men we know that even the strongest of us fall down. Which theory takes more faith mankind developed over billions of years or a pan dimensional super intellegent mouse created mankind? 42
andrewprofit 1 year ago
@andrewprofit
I'm trying to understand what you wrote, but just couldn't figure it out. Maybe you can rephrase your statements?
tentmaker777 1 year ago
The idea is that it takes more faith to be an athiest than to believe in intelligent design. Just like it would take more faith to believe that the Mona Lisa is a natural product of evolution over billions of years verses just believing that some guy named Leonardo Davinci painted it. Short of having a time machine there is no way I can directly witness the creation of the Mona Lisa so I have to trust the testimony of men. Each human being is infinitly more wonderfully made than the Mona Lisa
andrewprofit 1 year ago
@andrewprofit
It is NOT faith but FACTS that we have discovered. I have NO FAITH ONLY FACTS! has been my response to Christians for at least 15 years.
It is Not faith that we have in others but trust that they will do the right thing. If their actions do not match with what is right we do not try and excuse the behavior through a dogma!
Trust is far different then the blinders of Faith!
PastorIblis 1 year ago
I'm an atheist, but this man's passion and kindness is heartwarming. I'll stay with my beliefs and respectfully leave this man with his. May your God bless you!
I also wish more christians were like this man.
My atheism is not a reaction to the immorality of the bible, but a simple lack of belief.
ekorre33 1 year ago
@ekorre33 Your words were written very beautifully. Please know that I don't mean this with any spite or malice, when I say, God bless you.
Lightmane321 1 year ago
@Lightmane321 Thank you so much, your compassion and kindness came through in your video and moved me. You seem like such a good person! God bless you, I wish you all the best, friend!
ekorre33 1 year ago
Please read the Bible here is the list of the kinds of people that will find themselves in Hell:
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
proverbs1722 1 year ago
Such a beautiful message. Who would want to resist a God like that?
BurnsDillon 1 year ago
Google Does Account. Mind-blowing Stuff.
Nevyfling 1 year ago
"After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made." - John F. Kennedy, August of 1945
TradeRoutes 1 year ago 3
The "Punishment" or "Correction" is put in place for a REASON!
God does not "Punish" for a payment of Price! Since Jesus Christ his Son already paid the price for the WHOLE human race.
The "Punishment" is actually "Kolasis", which is NOT to be expected, via 1 John 4:18.
The kind of Corrective measure God gives in the lake of fire is a corrective measure that CORRECTS the behavior of the human!
It is NOT done as to PAY for sins, since Jesus already did that!
EmeiBaguazhang 1 year ago
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yaerav You said "If all Christians were like this man, the world would be a better place"
How can a "Lie" be better than the truth. Now some of us "christians" are dogmatic, hard to talk to etc" but most of the time we tell the truth. THIS MAN IS LYING. He may be deceived or whatever. But the bible from Genesis to Revalation speaks of a HELL . Jesus spoke of it more than heaven. His love made him give His life to save you. "WHOEVER CALLS ON HIM TO SAVE THEM...HE WILL. ROMANS 10:9
Melmando 1 year ago
In fact I am happy to say that aramaic bible is the oldest New Testament bible in the world. It does not teaches hell. My family came from the Nestorian church in northern Iran. One of the first church in Christianity which does not teach hell. So modern day Christianity is an invention to control people and I do not see love but hate and controled by hell-sayers.
nyonan 2 years ago
He is still an Atheist. He is a heretic.
Don't be deceived by this liar.
God is a love and judgment.
Proverbs 9:10 (KJV)
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Camel76 2 years ago
let us see now.. god could not possibly exist due to a few simple points.. 1 is that "god is all knowing" so if this is the case he would know what choice you are going to make in life, and so you are saved or condemned before you are born, but if not, then he is not all knowing is he?... 2 with all the horrible things that happen in the world, why would he make good suffer and the bad happy? it is things like this that question the concept of "Christianity" and all of its counterparts...
mbaladas 2 years ago
spanish mommy of 2 he does not deny christ is the only way to God ...he just believes he died and saved all in the only way possible{THROUGH CHRIST} listen better! i am a mommy of 2 2! whitney
MikeGram101 2 years ago
If all Christians were like this man, the world would be a better place.
yaerav 2 years ago 8
@yaerav HAHAHHAHHAHAHA are u stupid?? did u miss what he said in the beggining, he was a nazi and thought hitler was good, then to get a second chance since he know that everyone hates nazis he just makes up some stupid shit and uses Christianity as cover!! and many many of stupid christians that believe in jesus and god, think this man is good now. Retards to max
mantheman100 1 year ago
So do you reject the Bible? You don't? The Bible is full of violence committed by this so called father-god and the hell well described in the new Testament.
Which god are you talking about?
PAVANZYL 2 years ago
Thank You for this beautiful message. Thank You.
glammie4 2 years ago 2
boy wait until he goes to heaven for judgment!
GOD IS LOVE AND MERCY ITSELF! he created hell for the devil and his angels, not for us. but it is through our sins that make hell open to us! this man is so blinded by the truth ... they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore, God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: that all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity." - 2 Thessalonians 2: 10-11
av3rRageGameName 2 years ago
Watch "The Verdict is In" and "The Council of Nicea", both by Dr Ray Hagins, and you will never feel the same way about Christianity ever again.
tonythecomedian 2 years ago
He was talking about judiasm...law...read your bible in context av3r..That they {is jews of his day}....received not...the belief in the law and rejection of christ they died in the destruction of israel...temple..and they were judged dont add or take away from what it says...
MikeGram101 2 years ago
This guys is one big contradiction! He is so decieved! He does not know God! Read the BIBLE to really KNOW GOD! JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD...you can not go to heaven with out BELIEVING in HIM! Develop a relationship with God for YOURSELF. Read HIS word...the Holy Bible. Start with the book of John. Don't listen to this guy...Don't be deceived!
spanishmommyof2 2 years ago 2
Yes, all man who BELIEVE in jesus christ WILL be drawn unto him. This man thinks that god takes sin as a little joke! SATAN'S greatest weapon is to make people think that he doesnt exist! when people think that he doesnt exist, there is no fear of hell, nor eternal death, because you cast it aside as a myth!
av3rRageGameName 2 years ago
"as an atheist you can't understand faith"
Dictionary - Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth of or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing
Is that good enough for you?
This guy is a joke, as an Atheist we have faith in people,and we understand this, we just don't have faith or trust in your fictious control freak of a god
ichibakudan 2 years ago
Great parable!
ryanvh1 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago 18
ha ha that was great.
phantomdoodler 2 years ago
@Imaginefree69 I've seen your video and your comment about the puppies. I felt the same way you did. But God is not the monster the Damnationists make Him out to be. Study the early church history and the original languages of the Bible. All will be saved and none will be forever lost...
Cutie9326 9 months ago
What a narcissistic,self important load of crap.
"God sought me and god converted me"
"I can't give you my faith in god,that faith was a gift through Jesus Christ,I didn't earn it"
So Jesus has nothing better to do than pick who's in & who's out.
If this garbage is to be believed, god sought me out & de-converted me when I was 10. He repossessed his "gift" of my faith & refused to give it back no matter how I tried to get it.
God broke my devout mother's heart,not me. She'll be glad to hear it.
wmd1 2 years ago
Narcissim is thinking that we get in to heaven but others will be tortured for all eternity.
ryanvh1 2 years ago 2
YES God is love, but God is also JUST. It would go against His nature to say, "Because I love you more than anything, then you don't have to be punished for rejecting and disobeying Me"
Siennagurl 3 years ago
Yes. And most universalists would agree with that. Loving punishment serves a corrective purpose... endless torments cannot be loving, and they are found no where in the original greek of the new testament.
muhd220 3 years ago
i beg to differ in that according to the original greek word for "tormented" (as in rev. 20:10) in the concordance"basanizo",means exactly that, torment; in pain; suffering.
Mark 3:29 "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an ETERNAL sin"
if you say that everyone eventually goes to heaven, then why was Jesus and the disciples so urgent to spread the word of God?what would be the point of fulfilling the Great Commission if souls weren't at steak?
Siennagurl 3 years ago
To get people to heaven quicker. Souls are at stake enough in this world anyway, it's shit.
ThisIsRysta 2 years ago
Because your KJV bible is ALL twisted. You need to understand that my people who were the lost tribe of Isreal, converted into Messianic. Read the aramaic bible (if you understand it) it does not teaches hell. Nor Jews believe in HELL, because it's not in the torah.
nyonan 2 years ago
@nyonan You don't believe in Hell? I hope you don't go there. I don't even read the bible as I should. I'm not a perfect Christian but Hell is very very real. Everyone should open their eyes and heart and stop denying that Hell does not exist cause it does. We're just scared of the truth. All spiritual beings good and evil believes God, Jesus, Heaven, and Hell exist. Us humans have different beliefs of what happens after life. I just feel a debate is about to happen after I send this =P
xrc80 1 year ago 3
@xrc80 Hell is only real to those who believe it exists. You live your life in fear of it. You fear death because of it. I do not believe in hell. I live my life in love not fear. I do not fear death because death is final there is no after.
Kimmyloca0 1 year ago
@xrc80 Hell is going to be real if you believe in it.
And scared of the truth? Scared of what, scared of hell or scared of freedom of fear.
nyonan 1 year ago
In fact, also I have an Aramaic bible it does not teach hell. Greek bible comes from the aramaic bible, but the greek bible I would be careful. Hell is pagan and a FAKE!
nyonan 2 years ago
What did you mean, "atheist who has no hope"?
Doesn't everyone get saved, according to you?
mayartay 3 years ago 2
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Jesus spoke the above statement.
The tentmaker is a bold face liar.
preachingyourfuneral 3 years ago
jesus also said that he wasn't there to bring peace, but a sword. He wanted to turn families against eachother. He also said that if you love your child more than him, you dont deserve salvation.... ummm fuck you, jesus!
matthew 10:34
unholyaquarius 3 years ago
In fact, my bible says it different. Although similar from the Aramaic texts. We can not ignored the fact that, there is punishment... not the punishment that you believe in! The punishment is going to be a point where ppl will have to owe back to God while in prison. In the end, everyone will be in Heaven. I would not like to get into the punishment, but people will have different level of punishment.
nyonan 2 years ago
i wish that was true
danielpadgett 2 years ago
God is Santa Claus for adults.
ColoradoMikeyS 3 years ago
God did not create people for nothing. And according to this doctrine, it DOESNT MATTER what you do as long as you BELIEVE.
WHAT I BELIEVE is tha tgod created man for a REASON. The reason is called LOVE.
BugzLooney 3 years ago
I like that statement. Love SHOULD be at the forefront of spirituality... good for you
unholyaquarius 3 years ago
Thats correct God did create us for love/ love meaning to love him , and all you have to do is genuinly believe in his son dieing for us on the cross for our sins/ and try to do the right thing then u are saved. PLz actually read this comment because the end beckons near
Aethopz 3 years ago 2
This God didn't creat man, we evolved over time. Man will end sometime in the distant future and the next dominate life would be some kind of bug or something. Sweet dreams baby!!!
spareaxe 3 years ago
So you say you saw Christ,can you describe his face pelase?
NEMESIS1999 3 years ago
Many are called but few are choosen. We have free will. Please make the right choice. God bless and protect you sir. Jesus is Lord. I have scientific proof
Catthief6418 3 years ago
you're a great preacher.. thank you for this truthful and inspiring speech.
yes, no one will resist to the fire of God's love and everyone will be saved.
arwen232 3 years ago
you r a lucky guy if u know what i as an atheist mean. there would be no atheist if they would be as "lucky" as you are.
milepopic 4 years ago