omg they all have thier unique aircraft now 0_0 sweeet. and that heavy armour is so badass the quality going into this game makes me so happy this was the 1 mmo i loved and now its coming out brand new ill always be commited to this game
Loyalty until Death! Strength in Unity! Order requires law. Law is enforced through deterrence. Deterrence is based on the fear of consequences, and fear is the most powerful motivating force. The separatist groups, the Vanu Sovereignty and the New Conglomerate, will be dismantled through the exercise of forceful deterrence. Dissidents will fear the consequences of their disloyalty. Unity and order will be restored
@monoperative Take your heresy, sir and leave at once, lest you feel the wrath of a 1000 "angry nerds" loyal, like me, to the republic. Who would strike you down in an instant!
Planetside is the game that moved me from dial up to ISDN.
I have played most major FPS for PCs, both on and off line. The intensity of PS battles at its peak, with so many players on line at the same time, has never been surpassed ( despite the lag and the basic graphics).
If PS2 can re-create that same feeling then I can't wait.
We have played Planetside unlike you who obviously have no clue about Planetside. All you have is a rate given by a magazine and you think you know all about the subject. Or if not all, enough to initiate a debate. But that is so weak. C'mon, was that supposed to be an argument? You are wrong. And the whole HALO series is extremely overrated.
We have both seen HALO and PS - unlike you. Stop being a troll and crawl back under your stone.
calling darkfall an FPS is a stretch in my mind, I know you can aim your bow and the ship cannons, but its is a MMORPG, with a few FPS elements tossed in. Farming gear and crafting is not part of a FPS normally, this game is a hybrid.
Seriously, go read up what the actual classes are in the game before you start complaining. It's only a class used to dominate in taking areas with appropiate support. Everyone else uses cover and the ground to evade harm instead of relying on healing and constant momentum.
Also, Jetpacks are just for kids? You realise every geek and nerd wished they could have one IRL? Dumbass.
@MikeyTWolf I haven't read PC gamer since I was 10. I don't know how I'm suppose to read up on information when it's not posted, or mentioned, on the official PS2 website. Good on you for citing a source however.
Jetpacks are gimmicky "future tech" bullshit that never balance correctly. Also it destroys the infantry expectations established in PlanetSide1. Planetside1's battle were epic because you could not circumvent defense without teamwork. Now, you'll see kiddies, bouncing around Mr. Rage.
@MyoiMyoi It's not uncommon practice for in-development games to have no official information on the websites in favour of selling their information to the Syndicate of gaming webmagazines. A google check probably would have found that info out too.
Also:
>Implying Tribes was made for the kids.
Vehicles and fortifications would destroy slow moving infantry, so jetpacks provide an interesting middleground, not just sell "fun" at the expense of balance. You can now raise the price of vehicles...
@MyoiMyoi Those with more power in a team enviroment must remain slow moving. Jetpackers can provide assistance at short notice without spending too much in resources in sending armour to nudge the odds in your favour during a shootout by adding more manpower, not machinepower. And we all know men are far more expendable. However, any jetpacker lone wolfing it will be picked off like flies. Rapid fire ballistics will make short work of light armour, so elevated defences expecting them will win.
I haven't played Planetscape 1 to be honest, I missed out on the good stuff when it was happening. But I'd still like to see how this pans out, as it seems to favour those with skill and a good command of your allies over strongarming in pure cash, providing power to those who spend only when they need to, and not who takes the most PvE jobs. This is something you can LEARN, not EARN, and that's what I respect.
@MikeyTWolf You can still play Planetside 1... it's just as amazing now as it was back then. People have been playing it since launch and they're not even bored yet!! I'm about to re-sub, myself.
@MyoiMyoi TBH not that I care what they do or do not have: If there's more stuff and classes I'm happier. It means I get more reasons to re-roll and learn every tactic and strategy in the book. :D
Then I guess the only logical step after that is to move on into the command chain and work my way up.
@KernelGaddafi While I agree seeing visual similarities between the Halo series and Planetside, I don't see how you can claim that "almost everything" has been ripped off by the Planetside crew. Gamplay-wise they are very different.
And your "Terran is stolen from starcraft" doesn't hold up in any way. The word "Terran" has been used in many games (Wing Commander) and even movies (Starship Troopers) before Starcraft got released, possibly so because Terran hails from Terra which means Earth.
Funny you say fanboys, and state facts thats not true.
1. you took your name from an other person ?
2. Terra means Earth in latin, a bit older than your starcraft refference, a terran is a man from earth
3. how can you compare a single player game to the only game in world history to alow 500+ players on one map in an FPS ? you clearly have never tried this title!
@Ymgarl i tried WW2 online back in 2004, it was a shitty game filled with errors, I just googled it and found out the relaunched it again, I thought it was shut down. what iI really meant was its the only MMOFPS that has pulled it off, if i just had a timemachine and could go back and delete core combat and the devs responsible for BFRs, planetside would still have players so I could enjoy the game.
DFO, you dont specify the full name, but my google shows a korean diablo style action game ?
Did i say Halo is a bad game, or its worse than Planetside ? no I did not, all I said was is thats its not the same genre. Halo is prolly good for you as it seems your lack of CPU power could not handle anything but AI.
Press was pretty welcoming for a game trying to open a new genre. They were amazed by the scale of even the everyday bottles took place in the game. Graphics was OK for a 2003. title. Music was fine. Most of the mechanics were well-developed.
It had a major flaw though. It was easy to learn, but hard to master, and those trying to play it without BRAINZ, left the game soon... like you? Oh, wait, you haven't played it for a single minute.
@KernelGaddafi lol halo also has a higher score than counter strike! but counter strike is still the most played and most legendary shooter! lol fool!
2. 'Cover System'? Are you referring to those systems whereby you press L2 and your character jumps against a wall? I'd much rather have full control over my character than to have pre-defined moves.
3. Of course there will be an ironsight, you tool. It's an FPS; a follow on from one of the best FPS games ever made.
4. Battlefield 3 has a health bar, and that's NOT an MMOFPS.
@DenimZero how many players does warhawk have at a time? 32? lol dont make laugh if that's the case. If it's 128 or 256 players at a time in one battle, then it's perhaps able to be considered some kind of a rival to plantside 2.
Looks pretty delicious. MAKE SURE that each faction is distinctly discernible from a distance. The TR are RED, make sure there is lots of red! The Vanu are PURPLE, make sure they are covered in purple!
Other than that, don't forget to include epic violin music and we're set.
@lolroflroflcakes TR is for people with no skill. Good job spraying with your MCGs and using automated rockets that fly to your targets for you. LMAO. At least the NC have to land their hits well with the JH and guide their rockets manually. VS is for pros.
Better Red than Dead!
acefox009 1 week ago
The mossie is still common pool right?
HitodamaKyrie 1 month ago
the Miskito looks awesome i will change my faction to get that ship
nintendojunky89 1 month ago
Just spamming the 'Get Mail' button on my e-mail until the Beta comes out.
:D
DeadDude212 1 month ago 3
@DeadDude212 same
nintendojunky89 1 month ago
For Terran!
SHONENJUMPBOY 1 month ago in playlist More videos from PlanetSide2
This is a FPS? Then how the hell can I see my armors and equipments?
Uouttooo 1 month ago
@Uouttooo you can play in 3rd person and 1st person.
foxbayne 4 weeks ago
Wait a minute? "Terran"? Damnit, well guys, get ready for another round of getting our asses kicked by the op race -_-
sixinthehood 1 month ago
If there is anything interesting sony had helped produce it would be PS. It's about time Sony you did it again.
Battleballs 1 month ago
fuck you jackhammer surgile faggots
TR 4 LIFE
Rmelias86 2 months ago
For all TR suck balls NC "Freedom Maters"
papergunmaster123654 2 months ago
reminds me of C&C Hand of Nod
metalassaultlogin 2 months ago
I like how heavy assault has a target marker on his crotch. Just saying.
MendrakeD 3 months ago
No mercy to traitors!!! Purge the heretics!!!! Burn the unclean!
Wrong game, i know but I DUN CARE!
TERRA VICTOR!!!!!
nimmivids 3 months ago
@nimmivids SPACE MARINES!!! ATTACK!!! Yeah I know, the heavy armor got me on the same track ;-)
CrunchyPotatoes 1 month ago
FUCK VANU SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!!!!!!!!!
DOTKIX 3 months ago
yea i feel the same way MRPG such a awesome game blending my 2 favorite game types mmofps :D love it loved it
vaxpire 3 months ago
omg they all have thier unique aircraft now 0_0 sweeet. and that heavy armour is so badass the quality going into this game makes me so happy this was the 1 mmo i loved and now its coming out brand new ill always be commited to this game
MRPGAMEDEVELOPERS 3 months ago
I don't know what kind of detail will be had in the actual gameplay, but the level of detail in this video is really nice.
Murrison 3 months ago
BRING ON THE VAAANUUUUUUUUUUUUU
MarthKoopa 3 months ago
WTF! Where are ze goggles?!?
BigAndyB 3 months ago
Vaporware
SomeNoobWithCE 3 months ago
Lols the beeping noises are from swg :') recognize them anywhere
S67Snail 3 months ago
Long live the couch potatoes!
sstan1337 3 months ago
@sstan1337 lolwut?
Tikut0 3 months ago
...this is what you send emails out about? the same things we've seen screencaps of for months? I'm worried here gusy...
GeorgieWorgiey 3 months ago
Show max units!
Droiddest 3 months ago
Is there going to be infiltrators?
XLeumasX 3 months ago
@XLeumasX Yes, and the Creative Director seems very confident that they'll be extremely amazing.
Tikut0 3 months ago
WTF! The mossy was OP enough WITHOUT missiles. I wonder how they are going to balance that.
If not, I'm DEFINITELY becoming a mossy whore ;)
craby987 3 months ago
I find this relatively easy to masturbate to
xelnos21 3 months ago
Technology Equals Might! For the VANU!
Ascobal77 3 months ago
TR! Wooooo!
Blazeburn1944 3 months ago
SCREW TR WHERES VANU!?
brettski900 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
im not a terran, im NC but that rexo(heavy assault) suit looks pretty damn sexy
shortyyguytv 3 months ago
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shortyyguytv 3 months ago
my only question, is why are there missle pods on the mosquito?
carnavalmad 3 months ago
I miss getting SWG emails...
Hollarator 3 months ago
fap fap
colonelgork 3 months ago
Loyalty until Death! Strength in Unity! Order requires law. Law is enforced through deterrence. Deterrence is based on the fear of consequences, and fear is the most powerful motivating force. The separatist groups, the Vanu Sovereignty and the New Conglomerate, will be dismantled through the exercise of forceful deterrence. Dissidents will fear the consequences of their disloyalty. Unity and order will be restored
LONG LIVE THE TERRAN REPUBLIC.
ungface 3 months ago 56
@ungface I love you.
SmashingPixels 3 months ago
@ungface Calm down, nerd.
monoperative 1 month ago
@monoperative Take your heresy, sir and leave at once, lest you feel the wrath of a 1000 "angry nerds" loyal, like me, to the republic. Who would strike you down in an instant!
ungface 1 month ago
@ungface I repeat my previous missive.
monoperative 1 month ago
I love the detail on the legs at the heavy assault.
Coecoo 3 months ago
I saw the mosquito and I
JIZZED... IN MY PANTS.
Saterno 3 months ago
I want this wear
LikeVSTone 3 months ago
For the Repbulic!!!
Orthanc98 3 months ago
Vanu Sovereignty will reign SUPREME!
MarthKoopa 3 months ago
@MarthKoopa lol
Levente20 3 months ago
@MarthKoopa never. :P
Tikut0 3 months ago
Be sure. I will pay for it. Just becouse of PS1. But still, work hard!:)
grenzor1 3 months ago
SMF <3 U
Str8SMF 3 months ago
Planetside is the game that moved me from dial up to ISDN.
I have played most major FPS for PCs, both on and off line. The intensity of PS battles at its peak, with so many players on line at the same time, has never been surpassed ( despite the lag and the basic graphics).
If PS2 can re-create that same feeling then I can't wait.
rowbrow 3 months ago 10
@rowbrow
WORD!
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
Joe Walsh of the New Conglomerate disliked this video.
77Amuse 3 months ago
Suck it? Why, dear Kernel-dead-guy-in-the-pipe?
We have played Planetside unlike you who obviously have no clue about Planetside. All you have is a rate given by a magazine and you think you know all about the subject. Or if not all, enough to initiate a debate. But that is so weak. C'mon, was that supposed to be an argument? You are wrong. And the whole HALO series is extremely overrated.
We have both seen HALO and PS - unlike you. Stop being a troll and crawl back under your stone.
Trolltaxi 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Trolltaxi
you can't think of any better arguments so you call me a troll?
KernelGaddafi 3 months ago
fantastic
KaradorC 3 months ago
This looks so hot!!!!!!!!!!!
MrHiram344 3 months ago
They've given the Mosquito missiles this time out? Interesting...
Rosbif86 3 months ago 8
@Rosbif86 Maybe they rolled the Wasp and Mosquito into one fighter, rather than two.
valkiris 3 months ago
@valkiris Yup. Mosquito can change load-outs. More customization in PS2.
TR - Mosquito.
NC - Reaver.
VS - the new Scythe!
Tikut0 3 months ago
@Tikut0 Schyte will forever be known as the Dyson!!! :)
MrShadowGremlin 3 months ago
I'm gone. Twice...
Trolltaxi 3 months ago
calling darkfall an FPS is a stretch in my mind, I know you can aim your bow and the ship cannons, but its is a MMORPG, with a few FPS elements tossed in. Farming gear and crafting is not part of a FPS normally, this game is a hybrid.
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
@ChePennyDK doesnt that make it a "skillbased MMO" or a "True Skill MMO?"
TheShootHappy 3 months ago
@TheShootHappy
Well not sure why you bring it up, but really they treaded on new grounds, so your prolly right that the game needs its on genre abbreviation.
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
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BlakeFalling 3 months ago
A jet pack? Really?
I guess you have to catch the attention of the kiddies somehow.
Just won't be the same if everyone can jump over a wall instead of fighting their way into a courtyard.
MyoiMyoi 3 months ago 3
@MyoiMyoi - Not everyone will have that ability, jet packs are limited to light armor types only.
Stitch0131 3 months ago
@Stitch0131 Jetpacks, even restricted to armor types is really massive change.
But I'm assuming they're trying to stick to the core gameplay of base assault/capture.
MyoiMyoi 3 months ago
@MyoiMyoi It's called the Assault class moron.
Seriously, go read up what the actual classes are in the game before you start complaining. It's only a class used to dominate in taking areas with appropiate support. Everyone else uses cover and the ground to evade harm instead of relying on healing and constant momentum.
Also, Jetpacks are just for kids? You realise every geek and nerd wished they could have one IRL? Dumbass.
- Source: PCGamer Issue 233
MikeyTWolf 3 months ago
@MikeyTWolf I haven't read PC gamer since I was 10. I don't know how I'm suppose to read up on information when it's not posted, or mentioned, on the official PS2 website. Good on you for citing a source however.
Jetpacks are gimmicky "future tech" bullshit that never balance correctly. Also it destroys the infantry expectations established in PlanetSide1. Planetside1's battle were epic because you could not circumvent defense without teamwork. Now, you'll see kiddies, bouncing around Mr. Rage.
MyoiMyoi 3 months ago
@MyoiMyoi It's not uncommon practice for in-development games to have no official information on the websites in favour of selling their information to the Syndicate of gaming webmagazines. A google check probably would have found that info out too.
Also:
>Implying Tribes was made for the kids.
Vehicles and fortifications would destroy slow moving infantry, so jetpacks provide an interesting middleground, not just sell "fun" at the expense of balance. You can now raise the price of vehicles...
MikeyTWolf 3 months ago
@MyoiMyoi Those with more power in a team enviroment must remain slow moving. Jetpackers can provide assistance at short notice without spending too much in resources in sending armour to nudge the odds in your favour during a shootout by adding more manpower, not machinepower. And we all know men are far more expendable. However, any jetpacker lone wolfing it will be picked off like flies. Rapid fire ballistics will make short work of light armour, so elevated defences expecting them will win.
MikeyTWolf 3 months ago
I haven't played Planetscape 1 to be honest, I missed out on the good stuff when it was happening. But I'd still like to see how this pans out, as it seems to favour those with skill and a good command of your allies over strongarming in pure cash, providing power to those who spend only when they need to, and not who takes the most PvE jobs. This is something you can LEARN, not EARN, and that's what I respect.
MikeyTWolf 3 months ago
@MikeyTWolf You can still play Planetside 1... it's just as amazing now as it was back then. People have been playing it since launch and they're not even bored yet!! I'm about to re-sub, myself.
valkiris 3 months ago
@MyoiMyoi TBH not that I care what they do or do not have: If there's more stuff and classes I'm happier. It means I get more reasons to re-roll and learn every tactic and strategy in the book. :D
Then I guess the only logical step after that is to move on into the command chain and work my way up.
MikeyTWolf 3 months ago
Give me BETA!
VARAGtm 3 months ago
This is going to be the greatest game of all time yet again
Tikut0 3 months ago
TR 4 lyfe!!
on1inepirate 3 months ago
no cover system for realist combat
no ironsight for better aim
health bars that belong in a game made in the 90s
backwards companies like this wont know innovation even if it hits them in the face
KernelGaddafi 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi Are you retarded?
Cover exists, there just isn't an automatic flow to it like you console kiddies are used to.
Ironsights exist, look at the trailer
Literally every FPS ever has health
You're an idiot
MarthKoopa 3 months ago 2
@MarthKoopa
how could you even defend this title? they ripped off almost everything from other better games like halo
even the name terran is stolen from starcraft
fanboys like you really piss me off because you cant tell a good game from a bad game just because youre used to a specific title
KernelGaddafi 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi While I agree seeing visual similarities between the Halo series and Planetside, I don't see how you can claim that "almost everything" has been ripped off by the Planetside crew. Gamplay-wise they are very different.
And your "Terran is stolen from starcraft" doesn't hold up in any way. The word "Terran" has been used in many games (Wing Commander) and even movies (Starship Troopers) before Starcraft got released, possibly so because Terran hails from Terra which means Earth.
lorddale87 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi
Funny you say fanboys, and state facts thats not true.
1. you took your name from an other person ?
2. Terra means Earth in latin, a bit older than your starcraft refference, a terran is a man from earth
3. how can you compare a single player game to the only game in world history to alow 500+ players on one map in an FPS ? you clearly have never tried this title!
4. You sir are the....!
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
@ChePennyDK I'm not disagreeing with most of what you wrote, but it''s not the only FPS that large, WW2 online and DFO go bigger.
Ymgarl 3 months ago
@Ymgarl i tried WW2 online back in 2004, it was a shitty game filled with errors, I just googled it and found out the relaunched it again, I thought it was shut down. what iI really meant was its the only MMOFPS that has pulled it off, if i just had a timemachine and could go back and delete core combat and the devs responsible for BFRs, planetside would still have players so I could enjoy the game.
DFO, you dont specify the full name, but my google shows a korean diablo style action game ?
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
@ChePennyDK DFO = Darkfall online, it has the capability to (and did for some time) run 2000+ man battles in fps combat
Ymgarl 3 months ago
@ChePennyDK
if your precious planetside is so great why does it have a 7.9 on gamespot and halo have a 9.7?
suck it!
KernelGaddafi 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi
Because I can make up my own mind ?
Did i say Halo is a bad game, or its worse than Planetside ? no I did not, all I said was is thats its not the same genre. Halo is prolly good for you as it seems your lack of CPU power could not handle anything but AI.
ChePennyDK 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi yes, because as we all know, gamespot number-reviews are everything.
TheShootHappy 3 months ago
@TheShootHappy
you just cant except the truth that planetside was a shitty game
every game critic in the world thinks so
KernelGaddafi 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi I'm not defending planetside, I'm saying your argument was a shitty argument.
TheShootHappy 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi Could you please name at least one?
Press was pretty welcoming for a game trying to open a new genre. They were amazed by the scale of even the everyday bottles took place in the game. Graphics was OK for a 2003. title. Music was fine. Most of the mechanics were well-developed.
It had a major flaw though. It was easy to learn, but hard to master, and those trying to play it without BRAINZ, left the game soon... like you? Oh, wait, you haven't played it for a single minute.
Trolltaxi 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi I am a game critic and I loved Planetside.
CakeProDuckShins 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi lol halo also has a higher score than counter strike! but counter strike is still the most played and most legendary shooter! lol fool!
BeastlyRig 3 months ago
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ChePennyDK 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi obvious you only hate because it's a sony game go back to your paid for online mp games..
BeastlyRig 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi Way to go to show off your ignorance of literature.
Vash002 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi The word Terran has been used FAR before StarCraft.
A book from 1959, called Starship Troopers, has a faction called the "Terran Federation".
A game from 1990, called Wing Commander, has a faction called the "Terran Confederation".
A game from 1996, called Star Command , has a raced called the "Terrans"
StarCraft was released in 1998.
You're clearly uninformed and not worth arguing with.
MarthKoopa 3 months ago
@KernelGaddafi
1. Your name is retarded.
2. 'Cover System'? Are you referring to those systems whereby you press L2 and your character jumps against a wall? I'd much rather have full control over my character than to have pre-defined moves.
3. Of course there will be an ironsight, you tool. It's an FPS; a follow on from one of the best FPS games ever made.
4. Battlefield 3 has a health bar, and that's NOT an MMOFPS.
5. Get a clue
nprussell1 3 months ago
@DenimZero how many players does warhawk have at a time? 32? lol dont make laugh if that's the case. If it's 128 or 256 players at a time in one battle, then it's perhaps able to be considered some kind of a rival to plantside 2.
BVargas78 3 months ago
@DenimZero Umm... NO!!
More like: Warhawk's a Planetside wannabe. Have you even played the first Planetside?
Not the same. AT ALL.
Raffeiy 3 months ago
Nerdgasm
mstorer3772 3 months ago
I'm hearing so many SWG sounds in this, oh god. I can't get it out of my head. E-mail, yeah, and a window change and I think the mouse mode shift?
uhrukazhaad 3 months ago
Looks pretty delicious. MAKE SURE that each faction is distinctly discernible from a distance. The TR are RED, make sure there is lots of red! The Vanu are PURPLE, make sure they are covered in purple!
Other than that, don't forget to include epic violin music and we're set.
Murrison 3 months ago
@Murrison Each empire will have very distinct shapes in addition to their color, moreso than PS1.
MarthKoopa 3 months ago
GOTYAY
Scintilin 3 months ago
TR > all you other fools.
lolroflroflcakes 3 months ago
@lolroflroflcakes TR is for people with no skill. Good job spraying with your MCGs and using automated rockets that fly to your targets for you. LMAO. At least the NC have to land their hits well with the JH and guide their rockets manually. VS is for pros.
MarthKoopa 3 months ago
I will buy this. But I have a bad feeling it will have a pay to win item shop.
BeeblesTV 3 months ago
@BeeblesTV
First PlanetSide didnt have an ingame store, I doubt they will place it in the squeal
Gr33kNinja 3 months ago
@Gr33kNinja It's already been confirmed that this game will have an item shop of some kind.
BeeblesTV 3 months ago
i really need to know if don ferrone is working on this
marioalres 3 months ago
Pretty cool! Definitely looking forward to this.
SBmasta441 3 months ago
Looks pretty epic guys! Keep up the hard work. :)
theAStudios 3 months ago 17
anyone else hear the SWG email sound?
Jackale1234 3 months ago 20
@Jackale1234 Damn that reminds me, its going away here really soon, like 2 months left. Been a good long run swg, a good long run.
akiadan 3 months ago
Lol, SWG sound effects.
KasrkinPsyker 3 months ago
My eye's are having a smoke after the sweet sweet sex they just had.
Vash002 3 months ago
I have the weirdest boner right now.
Cd7up 3 months ago
Behold! You have just witnessed the only true power in Planetside.
Lets go TR!
HoltBuzzing 3 months ago
YES!!! YYYYEEEEEESSS!!!
DoomMoose 3 months ago
AAHH please hurry up I'm already bored of Battlefield 3 , loading screen every 20min is really annoying.
b0utch 3 months ago
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b0utch 3 months ago
NC All day :D
SeityD 3 months ago
looking very slick, looking forward to the VS guys, NC can suck a duck
PocusUK 3 months ago