Barack Obama versus Hillary Clinton "The Challenge"

[EKSartist]

HILLARY WON'T PLAY BY THE RULES:

10/10/07 - Hillary Clinton, asked by NPR why she wouldn't remove her name from the Michigan ballot: "It's clear this election they're having is not going to count for anything."

03/13/08 - Hillary Clinton, asked by NPR if it is fair to count Michigan when only she had her name on the ballot: "But we all had a choice as to whether or not to participate in what was going to be a primary -- and most people took their names off the ballot, but I didn't."

[shuaiflip]

Clinton people please stop the lying go the the Congressional House Library of records. In the past 7 years your more experienced candidate has been invoulved in 22 senate bills of which 5 could be considered of consequence. Senator Obama has been involved in over 800 in eight months, these are facts sorry if that rains on the pretty picture of her that you are trying to paint. I am not against her for being a woman, I am against her for having no real conviction she is the same as Bill a pig

[monsterpoops]

she hasn't done much walking... and over exaggerates what's she's done... and to prove otherwise, she could just release her 1st Lady papers and perhaps her tax forms.

Obama 08, forever.

p.s. Obama has done way way more stuff.

[RdReddevil]

False. obama has actually only passed two pieces of SPONSORED legislation one of which named a post office. Hillary has passed twenty of muhc higher merits and co sponored many more times in reaching across party lines. Obama has not and he talks about legislation he never passed. Plus he has missed 80% of his senate votes since September while Hill only has missed about 28 in total. Also missed 40% in the state senate voting presenty 130 time. Plus he did not hold oversight in his subcomittee.

[mmpeire]

Hillary Clinton has sponsored 356 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 309 haven't made it out of committee and 2 were successfully enacted.

Barack Obama has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 120 haven't made it out of committee and 1 were successfully enacted.

[supportinghillary]

all barack does is sponsor bills, and not vote on many other bills, especially the controversial ones. Where is his so called "public service." Nowhere. Hillary HAS a record of fighting for healthcare, the middle class, and the poor. Even if someone hates her, you can't deny that she has been active in public service.

[mmpeire]

How do you explain her public service working for Walmart? Her healthcare record was a complete failure while given the reins during her husbands term in office. Why not release her records as First Lady? Because they would no doubt show that her vast Foreign Policy experience amounts to nothing. How did lighting a Christmas tree in Belfast and attending a meeting at the Lamp Lighter Café where she admired a tea pot, become such an integral part of the Northern Ireland Peace Process.

[RdReddevil]

Really? Amounting to nothing? I rely not just on her experience but HER superior judgement. She wnated ott ake action in Rwanda whihc he her husband did not.... if he would have truested her those people that died in Rwanda could ahve been saved.

[mmpeire]

In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas - using her child development background to help the defendant. I wonder if the parents of that child thought she used good judgement.

[RdReddevil]

Oh come on! Your blatant disregard for fact and turht is disturbing! And if you wnat to talk about lawayers... what about when Obama defended Rezko in Chicago or took part of his corrupt land dleas and turned the blind eye as state senator? We could go on and on with terrible things obama has done in the past and things that actually are relevant. The fact that he has taken so much money from a campaign fixer is really at odds with his message of transparency and ending corruption.

[mmpeire]

To mention corrupt land deals in defence of Hillary Clinton is laughable. She worked for Walmart and she did defend a rapist; how is that\disregarding facts? She is also the defendant in a lawsuit to expose campaign finance fraud in Los Angeles Superior Court case #BC304174, yet another fact.

[rhoddin]

are you kidding me? her superior judgment?

[smartcookie4]

The real irony here is that people who say they like Obama are the most mean spirited, narrow-minded, reverse racists that I've ever seen or heard. That is contradictory to his message!!! or his scripted message from the producers of West Wing, to get him elected.Why is a black man the minority, when, a white woman, running, is not. Gibberish. Hillary is a skilled, brillant woman who must win for this country to rebound

[RdReddevil]

And his wife does not seem all that positive either when she basically claims that Hillary is not fit to run the white house because she could not run her own house. Politics of hope? Yeah theyre hoping people do not see the bullshit the obama camp has been spewing.

[mmpeire]

You seem to have missed my point. There was a request for facts and based solely on legislation in the Senate he is ranked better than her, with less time served. Ever since there seemed to be a chance that she could be stopped I have been waiting for a "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" moment.

[RdReddevil]

wrong...again look at my previous comment about his senate voting record his absences and his SPONSORED legislation passed.

[supportinghillary]

look up Obama: A Thin Record For a Bridge Builder on google. Clearly even other senators think of barack as cowardly, and not bipartisan. He is all talk. Also in govtrack, obama has not vote in nearly 20% of the bills..amazing leader.

[time4hill]

Why are you going around to all the pro hillary sites and posting gibrish. Thought I made the argument clear in the video. This site is asking for facts to show Obama has substance- You've failed the challenge badly and made Obama look worse- This was your chance to make him look good. So STOP with the gibrish posting.

[rdjohanson]

An Obama aide accidentally calls Clinton a "monster" and is fired. A Clinton aide says Obama is "imitating Ken Starr" and goes on all the talk shows.

Obama sees through the game of politics. He knows it is often dirty and demeaning and destructive.

But seeing through the game is not the same as winning it.

[RdReddevil]

Is that why his wife said that Hillary was not worhty of running the white house because she could not run her own house? Or is that why Obama denounced attackig of abny kind in NV while callin her and Johns Edwards a liar and old school dirty politics... you see he has convinced you obamazombies of lies with the same thing he is whining about.

[rdjohanson]

This is "exactly why people don't trust their leaders anymore," the release said. "And it's exactly what Barack Obama is running to change."

But the release was titled with unintended irony: "Doing Whatever It Takes to Win."

The Clinton campaign accepts the notion that it will do whatever it takes to win. The Clinton campaign promotes it. It wants Democratic voters, especially the superdelegates, to know that Clinton is a winner, no matter how down-and-dirty the fight.

[rdjohanson]

A few days ago, Obama's deputy communications director issued a statement that said: "The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down."

The release said the attacks on Obama were untrue and "yet they repeat them, over and over again, day after day, in an attempt to deceive the American people just so that they can win this election."

[LeeCountyArkansas]

I did not know that helping to bring crack to the United States was "helping the poor."

Barry Seal should be made a hero! He ran TONS of cocaine to the US, operating out of Mena Arkansas in the 80s, and died with Bush, Sr's private number on him.

Hillary's Rose Law firm laundered the money.

Helping the poor?

[LeeCountyArkansas]

Nice song, and obnoxious attitude, but don't leave out this tough grrrl gender warrior:

-- learned all Nixon's dirty tricks impeaching him

-- sat quietly on Walmart's boared for six years as they hired single mothers to work 35 hours without paying heath benefits

-- laundered $100 million/mth in Barry Seal drug money through the Arkansas Develepment Finance Authority

-- dead bodies on the lawn

What seems "hatred for women" is just distaste for a neurotic person using dirty tricks!

[RdReddevil]

You are being so helpful to us! Thank you for showing that Obama supporters are engagaing in the dirty politics that the right has leveled at Hillary for years. These are all conspiracies that have no merit at all. thankx.

[CanadianPerspective]

Unlike Obama, the Republicans will rip Hillary apart like a PAPER-DOLL should she become the nominee! It will be a Republican Christmas! :D

[mmpeire]

Look at some statistics from GovTrack, you have a choice between Extremely Poor and Poor in regards to Legislation.

Hillary Clinton has sponsored 356 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 309 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers).

Barack Obama has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 120 haven't made it out of committee (Poor) and 1 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers).

[LeeCountyArkansas]

mmpeire, great job! Here is one consideration, Obama is young enough to have an excuse. Hillary is far from it.

You can't put lipstick on a pig.

[mmpeire]

He is young, but at least he is not divisive. The GovTrack ratings are based purely on what has been accomplished in regards to his peers. I posted them to show how Hillary has a full extra term in the Senate yet she ranks below him. There was a post calling for facts. Funny how a woman who claims to have brokered Northern Ireland Peace is so willing to tear a collegue to bits. At least he has chosen the high ground.

[time4hill]

Get Real! What high ground? Hillary ought to show her tax return...hillary showed pics of me wearing muslim garment....hillary should fire Geraldine,Hillary got the media, hillary has name recognition, hillary support nafta, hillary can't unite like me----that must be some other obama wining. Oh yeah! that was osama- pleeease.

[mmpeire]

Geraldine Ferraro's comments are a slight to all black people. The funny thing that comes into play here is that Hillary's attempt to make a point on Obama with the Renounce and Reject argument dealing with Farrakhan has left her with egg on her face. Ferraro is a fundraiser for Clinton so something has been offered, so will Clinton formally REJECT Geraldine Ferraro and return the money that she raised?

Why is it considered whining to ask her to release her tax return?

[RdReddevil]

Not true... Obama has been paying huge amounts of money that the clinton camp has not to uperdelegates in hopes of swaying them. And the media has been etxremely biased to Obama and there is no debating that so your first point s not valid.

[RdReddevil]

Honestl polls show that Hill supporters are more inclined not to vote for Obama in the general election. There is only one poll showing your view. Besides we do not know what can happen in the general election. Mostly it is decided by the deabtes which Obama shows sub par showings at best. I'm not worried about whichever democrat nominee winning.. they both will be able to fairly easily i think... bnow we need to choose the bets candidate which is Hill.

[time4hill]

Why is everyone afraid to point out the facts? Instead they try to beat down Hillary while putting Obama on a pedestal and trying to make him "godlike". Well when this campaign started I liked Obama but the type of people he motivates leaves much to be admired and makes him questionable.

[time4hill]

Funny how Hillary is being accused of running a smear campaign when all over the internet 90% of the filth and smear is directed towards her from the obama camp- While people like griffin0083 are poised to promote propaganda,but it is taboo to say that if he wasn't getting 90% of the black votes he'd probably trail Edwards.

[LeeCountyArkansas]

Hillary's attack website, Hillaryis44, has been smearing the web since last year.

Smears: Rezko, the fake Muslim story leaked to Fox (with photos to The Drudge Report), Canadagate (where she did the same thing according to Canada's prime minister's office), the pandering, patronizing, fake tears, and emotional appeals to racial, gender, religious and cultural bias.

People see and are sick of it. Her gender agenda it's nearly enough. It's B.S.

RIP Jerry Parks, Don Henry and Kevin Ives.

[supportinghillary]

uhh exit polls says hillary has more of the democratic votes..how much lies are you going to put up. 90%?? That would mean he would win the primaries by 90% or even more.

[supportinghillary]

he didnt pass 1000 bills..that is just propaganda,