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  • I wish I could find albums with Ian THomas on them, he's got crazy chops.

  • Ha ha Sanbourn good at what he does right.However he is no jazzer that's for sure.

    Has his own pop style which is fine but lacks any form of creativity.Check his worked out solo of same tune on utube with Phil woods.Case in point right.

    As for J Holland,yeah that guy did show in NY and insulted the great Dizzy Gellespie. Holland knows nothing and understands even less.

  • love it!

  • god i love this guy

  • Did anybody else catch the quote from the carmen flute suite in his solo, or was it my imagination?

  • I don't think so cause i totally heard it too!

  • omg i could listen to this all night - so cool.....

  • My oldest brotha would eat this punk 4 lunch, mean Maori mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeaaaahhhh.........

  • Holy shit... Now I see why Sanborn nods. At 2:44 the bass player was early going to the chord change... But that's when u really see why u can't fuck w jazz musicians.... Listen to how the soloist goes around that and to how the rithym sec. fixes it.... Man these guys r fukn awsome.

  • @Uberthium:

    not really: he climes up from Emin to Cmaj7 and then immediately plucks the open E again (the second 8" note of measure five to be exact) and holds it till beat 3 and then he is back to grooving. At the end it doesn't really matter - his grooving and tone is a mind blowing and amazingly musical :)

  • 2:14 made me laugh because it's genius.

  • Richard Cottle on keys

  • Richard Cottle on keys

  • Richard Cottle on keys

  • is that john shuttleworth on keys ??

  • David saxophone, I'm mean sanborn is the early pioneer and godfather of modern R&B and smooth jazz alto sax. My all time fav! PERIOD!

  • David Sanborn is not very good.

  • @doublealufwaffe

    Troll

  • @doublealufwaffe You are a serious troll.

  • good ol Jools

  • 3:41 Pino Harmonics sound sweet.

  • iAN tHOMAS....bADBOY.

  • PINO!

  • Nice one. Great Keys..... and of course Pino !

  • cant think of any other sax player who plays out of one side of his mouth and still looks soooo cool.

  • whose the piano player? this is my fav clip of sanborn so far! and ian thomas is awesome too!

  • Pianoplayer is R. Petterson!

  • 2:10 LOL Bizet quotage.

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  • beautifully miked. love this guy. Pino kills too...

  • No doubt he is a great sax player, but I'M not a big JAZZ Fan by any stretch of the imagination. I prefer a simpler melody style, like Ace Cannon's music.

  • Is that Pino palldino on bass?

  • It;s nicely clubby like played too.

  • Man Pino Palladino really lays down the bottom perfectly. I know everybody raves about Marcus Miller and the likes but this cat really understands the concept of bass as well as anyone.

  • Pino has been my fav since the paul young days

  • @stretch54

    Yes, Pino is a bass master, fine taste, elegant!!

  • Now that is an awesome Drum & Bass section....

  • Fuuuunk. Pino is my hero and I'm not familiar Ian Thomas, but this is amazing.s

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  • lo maximo david!""!

  • DAVID NETHERLANDS

  • AMAZING!!!

  • Someone PLEASE post "Short Visit," if you have it.

  • They played that tune frequently on the local straight ahead jazz station in my area. Oh, those were the days, 1978! Being in college and a part of the counter-disco culture and LOVING it, and discovering new and different things, like David Sanborn bringing screaming life to the alto sax. It was an awesome time. Remember who else was big back then? Chuck Mangione. I read recently that he started his career back in the '60's with Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers.

  • Love David Sanborn and Jules. Shame the av doesnt quite work here....but it's still great to see David get exposure like this.he really is so under-rated. Thanks for posting. PS for those who stumble upon this , check out Chicago Song...Sublime!

  • It sucks that the audio/visual sync is all over the place.

    DAMN!

  • did neither of my responses go though? I tried typing it and twice it went through but I dont see it...

  • I've been listening to Dave, and buying his music -- off and on at least, for 30-plus years, okay? Give me credit for knowing at least a little something his career, chops and audience.

  • (continued) So I guess my question is, why are you making this into a fight?

  • Hey, I'm just clarifying your seemingly mistaken impression.

  • Somehow my main reply didnt come through when I posted it, so I'll try this again. I'm not arguing that your opinion is wrong, or even saying that you are uninformed. I don't know why you're making this into an ARGUMENT, when all I was saying is that I RECOMMEND that you see him live before making your decision, because I feel that is perhaps more important than how an artist sounds on his CD's. I was merely giving you a recomendation as a fellow listener, not fighting with you. Make sense?

  • Nobody is turning this into an argument. I merely stated an opinion regarding Dave's apparent desire for greater commercial appeal, which is reflected in his playing. Now, I agreed to see him live, but I don't see him going too far afield the music he's currently recording to make that much of a difference in my observation. Kenny G sounded different to me onstage, but not THAT different. He has loyal fans to keep satisfied, and so does Dave. Neither is going to transform into Bird or Trane.

  • Tubers really need to stop being so sensitive.

    I wrote nothing offensive or that can be interpreted as argumentative. At best, I'm sparking a discussion, and that only serves to inform .... both you and me, as well as other Tubers -- who are free to join in, by the way. But your suggestion is well-taken, and, once again, I will check him out live.

  • He also did a number of projects with in the '70's with Bob James, which included artists such as Idris Muhammad, Ralph MacDonald, Eric Gale, Steve Gadd, Hiram Bullock, Harvey Mason and Hubert Laws. You don't become that familiar with a guy you feel is just mildly talented. It's just that today he seems more closely associated with he smooth jazz crowd and less with the more orthodox jazz sets. I believe that my observation is accurate, and that I'm entitled to make it.

  • Man! Pino is laying down the bass part!

  • is it just me or does this sounds a lot like the song "comin' home baby" on his album TimeAgain?

  • mouthpiece is an old ass Dukoff.

  • is it steve gadd on drums?

  • No its Ian Thomas. He's a awesum drummer doesn't get as much credit as he deserves. You can see at the minute playing with Eric Clapton. He's also a really genuine guy.

  • Well said. Ian's a monster player, plays all sorts of styles and he a first call London session head. brilliant1

  • selmer mkVI sax for sure but I cant make out the PM

  • he plays the same solo everytime he plays this song....check out the "legends of jazz" version of this song with phil woods...he plays the exact same solo....nevertheless its still sounds good

  • Not so improvisational after all, I guess. He probably could stand to challenge himself a bit more than he does. Dave's one of my boys from way back, though. I can't be too hard on him.

  • This is deffinately not the same solo as on the studio album so i dont know what you mean by saying its not imrovisational maybe you need to listen to it again, i think like the first 4 bars might be the same but other than that is not there are similarities but definately not the same!

  • Hey, get off my case. I'm not the one who said that. Take it up with Altosaxplayer89. I must say, however, that although I'm familiar with Dave from way back, and have enjoyed much of his work, he really doesn't push the envelope as much as other sax players on the jazz scene. I don't have any of his recent work, but I was happy to hear this version of "Senior Blues." It's more improvisational than a lot of his recent work.

  • bravenewhope, you should hear him live, if you havent. Live... he's a god.

  • I'd love to see him live -- if I can afford the ticket these days. He's so big and commercially popular now that I'm sure I won't find him where there's just a cover charge. Maybe I'm wrong.

  • Hmmm I saw him at a small theatre for like $40 or so. Depending on where you live, it shouldnt be too bad. And whatever price, its WORTH it. Trust me.

  • I said that in jest, joking once again on his enormous appeal among SMOOTH jazz listeners. Look, I have no doubt that Dave puts on a great show, but so do the Rolling Stones. The question is what kind of audience is he trying to reach these days. We all have to earn money to live, and in that context all of this is understandable. The casualty, however, invariably is artistic integrity. Musicians as well as astute fans know this.

  • Just because someone is popular to fans of a medium that is less than musically challenging, doesnt mean that what they're playing is necessarily based on that medium. Look, its not worth me arguing with you. See him live. It's nothing at ALL like his CD's. Ok?

  • Why view it as arguing? Differences of opinion are opportunities to learn. How did Dave become popular among this listening segment except by playing music they liked, and how is seeing him live going to change that? He'll still be playing the same kind of music. I'd still go see him, don't get me wrong. I just know what to expect.

  • Because he plays it differently live. w/e, go to a show then talk.

  • Okay, when Dave comes to a club near me, I'll be sure to check him out. In fact,

    I'm going to look up his upcoming engagements, if any.

    Tell me something, though. Why do YOU like David Sanborn so much?

  • I think, having seen him perform, that he is an incredible musician. I concur with you on the opinion that Smooth Jazz is pretty lame. I just don't agree with you that his playing should be labeled in that category. Why does it matter why I like him? He's a BEAST of a player; seems reason enough for me. So I'm not sure where you're coming from...?

  • I think you're getting the mistaken impression that I dislike David Saborn, and that simply isn't true. When I started developing my independent jazz tastes, separate from my dad, friends and others, Dave was one of the guys I listened to. That was back in the '70's. I know remember him as both a highly active session musician with David Bowie, Patti LaBelle and many, many others. His sound was very familiar to me. His TV show was also the best music program I'd ever seen, and it remains so.

  • A cut entitled "Short Visit," appearing on the '76 (or '77) "Heart to Heart" LP, is easily the best recorded tune from Dave I've ever heard. That's just my opinion. That tune, though, is the primary reason David Sanborn remains firmly on my radar. It's a pretty intense performance, and the stuff he plays now doesn't come close to it.

    Give it a listen.

  • "Short Visit" is a great tune. 1978. Long orchestral piece, but really back when he was more or less one of the guys instead of having the sound and production revolve around him solely. That whole record has great music on it. I like his first record a lot too.

  • FINALLY, someone who's familiar with "Short Visit." You're right. That was a vast orchestra backing him up, an orchestra that included a prominent french horn section. But I also recall Dave doing some inspired sax work on that particular tune. It's my favorite Sanborn tune -- easily, but the album, "Heart to Heart," also includes "Theme from Love is Not Enough" and Strayhorn's "Lotus Blossom." Hopefully, someone can post these tunes, at least "Short Visit."

  • By the way, while I don't have much of his recent work, some of his music is still played on the local jazz stations, but mostly on the SMOOTH jazz stations. If you're easy to find on the latter, though, then you know you're not really knocking the paint off the walls. That stuff is for non-jazz listeners.

    He's still a sentimental favorite of mine, though. He's one of the contemporary guys I was listening to in the '70's when my tastes were developing.

  • David gets better with age.

  • Pino ftw!!! :)

  • Sanborn is awesome...

  • Pino!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dave goes improvisitional. Didn't know he still had it in him. He had gone way coomercial for my tastes. His very best recording, at least to me, is "Short Visit" from the "Heart to Heart" LP from back in teh mid-'70's.

  • The players sound good, the snare does not :P

    Pino grooves!

  • Yeah, it has an aweful sound to my ears too !

  • Nice clip. The whole group sounds amazing, but it's really nice to hear Sanborn playing "jazzier" instead of the stuff he did a bit earlier in his career.

  • try it

  • Wow Pino with David Sanborn, wow! Thanks!

  • how would a Yamaha YAS82Z Custom Z with a RUNYON XL ebonite and

    Rovner Custom MkIII ligature

    sound?

  • bitched up

  • nothing like david sanborn

  • I too have had the pleasure of a lesson with Ian Thomas. He is an awesome player and bloke its not about who is better than who and as he said to me its about having your own voice. Ian has played with everyone and that doesn't happen by accident. His playing and attitude has really opened my eyes. Also guys im sure you have already but if not check out Keith Carlock.

  • Please remember that music is not yet an Olympic sport.

    These are great artists.

    There is no such thing as "best drummer".

    It's art... remember?

  • Great drumming but I really hate the snare sound :(

  • I like the drumming on this track, crisp and powerful. Thanks for uploading this.

  • Thank you so much for uploading this. It's superb stuff.

  • Hitman:- each to there own my freind but considering Ian is regarded among MANY respected musicians as ''one of the best drummers on the planet'' and after hearing various styles been played by Ian i truly dont withhold my comment. :) check him out properly!

  • I have to agree there, I know Ian and had the pleasure of being taught by him, he truly is a phenomenal musician and a really nice guy too! Check him out on some classic albums (Seal, Lawrence Cottle Bigband, George Michael) to name a few.

  • Anybody knows what song is this and what album is it at? Please...i am out tomorrow to shop for it!!!

  • 2:15-2:23 is AMAZING! phenomenal lick!

  • Show me the Jean Pierre.

    Where's the fuckin' JEAN PIERRE ??????

  • Ian Thomas is one of the most underated drummers in the world.. and hes one of the best.

    In my opinion up there with Vinnie C & Steve G..!!

    great groove, check out Laurence Cottles website for his jazz stuff... utter brilliance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • yea i have to agree to SOME extent, he is very good, but i don't think you can put him RIGHT up there, Vinnie Colauita, Dave Weckl and Dennis Chambers are the three greatest to me, aswell as Neil Peart, but this guy is definately a very accomplished drummer, and in my opinion Steve Gadd is the perfect comparison, they are groove drummers and show you don't have to play fast to be classed as a great, but i don't know about this guy i don't think hes quite THAT good

  • What.....not Vinnie Clarkson and Steve Goldthorpe?

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  • Ian Thomas is geat!

  • Great stuff. Love the intensity of his playing. Thanks for sharing this

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