Autumn Leaves Pt2 - Farlow Abercrombie Carlton Coryell

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[Rowlandph]

Geez!...ANYBODY can do what Carlton is doing!...Why is he even THERE??...

I'll be he wouldn't even know half the chords Tal played...if anyone asked him!!..

What an overblown name he has...

[Rowlandph]

What the guy with the glasses and no hair is playing...can be put into ANY song...Nothing at all special about his playing...all memorized and repeaterd licks...

[KABRIS1]

I think Larry Coryell's showboating is hilarious.

[musicbooksyoga1]

This video illustrates so well how guys from Tal's era really seemed to have a better command of the instrument and played musically with a lot more harmonic sophistication whereas the crop that came later are a weak pack of posers in comparison. Where's Joe Pass and Herb Ellis when you need them?

[JazzLoverKhurram]

@musicbooksyoga1 well said !

[JazzLoverKhurram]

Scofield's solo was by far the most coherent but Tal's chordal intro trumps them all imho

[bopattack]

Sco, Abercrombie, then Tal. That's my vote.

Sco's solo is really great.

[yagamei]

Larry's solo sucked. There I said it.

[seeepoe]

Scofield tears things apart in this recording. His and Abercrombie's are by far the best solos, I think. The guy who plays after Scofield kinda leaves Scofield's solo behind with a bad aftertaste, and whoever's playing before Abercrombie is embarassing to watch/listen to.

[bluescrusher]

There is no question why Scofield and Carlton are the most well known of the younger bunch.  Not a great outing for Carlton, but still so much better then the first two... and Sco is such a master he explores every mode and goes where no man has gone before and makes it sound good. Now why can't Carlton and Scofield ever work together?

[francisco444]

I love this vid, Abercrombie was pissed, Coryell terrible solo, Larry nice solo but barely hits the strings, Sco as always great improv solo, and Tal is having so much fun.

[googenshlagen]

Scofield....oh my god.

[nsandor72]

John Patitucci was the best player here

[picchaz]

Well since we are all putting in our opinions, my vote goes to Scofield & Abercrombie as the coolest, laid back & not over the top solos.

[AbeRivera]

John Patitucci makes this tune to me. Not Larry Coryell's finest hour. John Ambercrombie is very good on this. Larry Carlton is of course very melodic and likely the best technically this date.

[William102582]

Everybody here are great but Scofield really is the man in this jam!!!

[goldenchopsticks]

Damn Scofield just reminded me why he's one of my favorites. And Carlton makes me think of what Jimi Hendrix would sound like playing Autumn Leaves, very different but great.

[darkoanton5]

@Ven1EdCox I was thinking the same thing. John Patitucci on bass was the best.

[hankhannaford]

scofield is a don

[AmundLauritzen]

Scofield saved the day!

[thejazzman8]

i dont know you're all talking about, carltons solo was cool, he played his style just like sco and its a matter of taste, naturally farlow the sickest

[Chromatype]

Carlton should have learned his lesson and left the stage after the first song....but he stayed for bludgeoning...

[RobertMStFleur]

It's showtime, let them show up.

[TheDislocated]

proof that john's rock and larry's dont what there at

[johnl46]

Carlton and Coryell sound pretty terrible.

[darkoanton5]

@johnl46 Agree about Coryell but Larry Carlton played well, I thought.

[tpritchas14]

Scofield has such a unique style. He could play 3 notes and you'd know it was him.

[William102582]

Scofield=GREAT

[AtanasovPeter]

i have said it and i will say it again....Scofield kills

[TheMadjazzer]

Sco is a god.

[carbudz10]

Hey! you seemed to be a good guitar player but you don't even sound good in your videos! Try to upload your live performance and please try to be polite with your comments!!!!!

[bernieholland775]

Thank you so much Larry - by the way do you have a calling card - ok, leave it in the trash can on your way out - the only question is - why didn't someone unplug his amp and put us all out of our misery !

[chissD]

urca.. che gente !! 5 stars.. bellla interpretazione sempre contorta di Scofield !! Unico |!

[youreok88]

Actually i like very much that guy, but wow i'm surprised... Carlton was really not in shape. Tone, articulation sucks here. And as someone said, no jazz)))))

[fgc347]

@youreok88

Who cares about Jazz or not Jazz...it's just music for heaven sake! I saw five guitarists who just share their passion for what they love the most. All the discussion about who's right and who's wrong goes to the wrong direction. It's just music.......

[4578a]

Well the crowd seemed to enjoy it. Tal was always great despite the fact that he had never played perfect in his life, nobody sounds like him,and i'm sure people try. Scofield is great,real fluid lines. Coryell's solo was great even with the cliche repetition. That "stupid octave thing "was a part of what he was doing earlier which was loud ,overbearing ,out of place but really kind of shook things up a bit. Abercrombie is introspective and tasteful and then you have Larry carlton,

[redplouhg]

アバクロってジョンスコのプレイが好きなんだな。

[FeitenFan]

I agree totally

[rigelrp]

@FeitenFan jajajajajaja yeah me too

[zu0832]

@FeitenFan haha

[petar870602]

i am not a hater and i do like carlton in his overall career but he sucked here :(

he did not make even 1 bar of jazz improv

[Chromatype]

Carlton may have been a great session player on pop music, but he doesn't have the connectivity to make a line flow...he needs to stick with blues

[JazzLoverKhurram]

@Chromatype it may be true of Larry's jazz playing for the most part but I reckon some of his soloing on his early fusion lps as the best : check out his solos on Room 335 the original takes and some of the live takes in later years..unmatched melodic blues inflected boprock improv lines connected coherently with ebullience dexterity and panache that any hornplayer would be proud of. He appears to have lost much of that early verve and sadly his chops seem to have deteriorated lately

[kingbiscuitnugget]

Scofield kills here!

[RickInRock84]

Scofield all the way!!!!!

Coryell's solo is just horrible,sorry..

[Chromatype]

Abercrombie held his own...poor Carlton should have passed on this gig, better to not play than play and confirm the truth for everyone.

[tristeuomo]

Of course they are all great but in this tune Scofield solo rules,none of the others solo is getting even close to Scofield one.

[aaronentresz]

Larry Coryell shouldn't have been at this session. He not only made a goose of himself in his own solo, but he had to ruin the end of the song with that stupid octave thing he was doing. Tal Farlow deserved better than this.

[benbendude]

Larry Carlton is trying too hard. He acted a bit foolish. Lets hear some melody.

He's lines are pretty weak. At one point he

loses the groove. What a joker!

[davidhilton]

now sco is just tearing it up!

[Sopranoguitar]

It was indeed a stupid project to play on this beautiful song, they just used it as some kinda meaningless chord progressions to jam on, so what's the point? That's the saddest part of jam session, everyone forgets what was the song for, both Johns are Berklee kids, plays ok in time and chords while both Larrys are blues players, struggling with it to creat some kind of momentums , none of solos are good for this song, feel sorry for all players..just to get a quick bucks as a gig, u know?

[LoveTruck]

It's so funny to watch Abercrombie through this whole video. He looks like an owl perched there peering around; completely poker-faced to the other solos; offered no reaction to the obnoxious Coryell... Lol sorry Feiten, not so much that I don't like Coryell's playing, but his stage persona is just too much for me. I loved Scofield's solo.

[kikeramirez]

The owl smiles at 1:11 and enjoy the Scofield's solo. Bravo!

[pearbra]

John A, John S and Larry. Yes.

[FeitenFan]

A vote for Larry? Great!!, He hadn't been doing to well in the "voting". Larry is one of my favorites, his new album "Earthquake at the Avalon" is great !!

[fuzztrex]

I really meant Carlton :-)

[5150zombie]

@FeitenFan I vote for all of them, I think coryell did great. I like melody and I like mixing up techniques. I would'a liked to hear sonny sharrock with scofield and carlton.

[ArkRed1]

Damn, let Farlow play some. All these young cats hogging the rides. I wish they would have let Tal take more rides. That's the problem. These young bucks want to impress everyone with how many notes they can play in four beats. Did anybody hear the melody in this post?

[FeitenFan]

I agree, that is a problem with a lot of players, they lose the melody and it becomes "noodling"

[Francoisdiomaiuta]

@FeitenFan

Yeah but Sco is just scoing around, thats hes style and i really like hes noodeling :)

[JazzLoverKhurram]

@FeitenFan it's also a question of tempo..it's vey hard to stretch out and play sustained melody at such a breakneck tempo...at jazz sessions they invariably murder this old jazz standard imo by playing it too fast at this" let me show you what I can do" tempo..check out Cannonball Adderley and Miles Davis's version from Somethin' else and you'll see what I mean

[AtanasovPeter]

@ArkRed1 do you think Scofield is noodling?lol i always hate myself for reading comments because of people like you.John Scofield a young buck wanting to impress everyone with many notes HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.I rest my case

[rodcrippler]

@ArkRed1 Scofield's solo was great, and Carlton's too, tho a bit too bluesy and Coryell got lost from the beginning

[rodcrippler]

@ArkRed1 Abercrombie´s solo had the potential to be an amazing one in the beginning, but he kinda got lost in the middle, at least he didn't cover it up with blues high pitch licks or rock n roll poses like Coryell.

[94Harrymitchell]

@ArkRed1 There is a reason Tal didn't take more 'rides', because no one likes texan swing. That Stunk. I hope you are not referring to sco or abercrombie when you say young cats, because they wiped the floor with Tal + Coryell + Carlton.

[louie2oh2]

Farlow....

[cm0220ster]

My opinion: Scofield knocks it out of the park on this one, and I'm a bigger fan of Larry Carlton in general (meaning only that I own more of his stuff). You have to check out part 1 , though, to hear Pattitucci. Unbelievable. Have him and Scofield done anything together? That'd be something. It'd be a shame to dismiss any of the other guys based on their performance here, especially comparing to what Scofield and PAttitucci did with this.

[Chromatype]

Carlton is out of his element. He plays with more authority with his rehearsed band. It's a tough gig to play with great jazz players when you only play jazzy and are not hardcore jazzer.

[FeitenFan]

Yes, I pretty much agree. I am not the worlds biggest Larry fan myself. I like Coryell but this is not Larry C at his best. On this, other than Tal, I think Schoefield and Abercrombie come out best.

[plasticpigeon]

Hmmm this doesn't seem very tasteful to me, I think it's what happens when jazz players get fat!

[msoyka]

I think this is Scofield at his absolute finest, by the way.

[yorokondo]

Scofield is playing himself, his out-of-place notes are terrific, he's great, I liked coryell's solo because he added some rock influences into it, if Farlow had been younger, he'd have wiped out all of them but Scofield

[JazzGeetar213]

I'm not a big scofield fan but this is the sort of thing where he shows why people dig him. Dissonant and dark as hell. I like the way he uses the melodic motives to make it sound out as anything but still kind of make sense. He's a master at that....... but I must say Tal in his prime would've wiped them ALL out. haha. I'm old school - I like my straight ahead bebop geetar.

[msoyka]

Coryell and Carlton are terrible here. Compared to Abercrombie and Scofield their phrasing is really sub-par.

And to top it off, Coryell plays that obnoxious repeated figure not only during his solo, but he ruins the end of the tune with it!

[mrgone78]

you are right about coryell and carlton.

[doug604]

you can just see that smug bastard coryell planning to steal the show at the end with his stupid repetitive sliding octaves lol. seriously though he sucks on this tune.

[balintgyemant]

Scofield....

[rokandronero]

great at all!!

thanks for uploading the video!

[dashoos2006]

Tal is the man here....

wait, isn't that John Patitucci on bass?

[FeitenFan]

Yes, that it Patitucci on bass.

[goshajazz]

scotfield was the best one

[bireli91]

@goshajazz yes

[qweasd1993]

seems like abercrombie was pissed.. lol

love the scofield's play lol

[05rsx]

Ease up ,all the greats have off nights (except benson ;op )

this was carltons,they are not gods

[lookielooatyou2]

These ceremonial concerns are never the best venue for hearing jazz at its finest. That said, these guys did themselves no favors by showboating as if it was their own gig. Sure, Coryell is the most embarrassing of the bunch. And his solo showed the his style at its worst: using the repeated riff as a crutch. No creativity whatsoever. But overall, no great music was made here, which is a shame. Where's the communication? The listening to each other? Poor Tal.

[keiichixpp]

タルファロウがしぶい、うまさというのはこうでなくちゃ。

[FeitenFan]

Thanks for the comment, I trust it was positive :-) It would be hard to be negative with all these great players. :-)

[vanlally]

ha i totally agree, and your totally on the money about that burt reynolds thing

[tritoneblues]

Carlton is playing a Vally Arts strat type guitar with active EMG pickups (popular in the 1980s).

[FeitenFan]

Larry is playing a VA Strat. These have a Gibson 23 3/4 inch scale lenght and Gibson spacing at the bridge. I collect these early version VA strats because I never could play a Fender scale length and bridge spacing. I play better on a Gibson set up so these VA Strats work great, Gibson feel with Strat sound. I use Fender 57 Strat Pickups. Larry liked the sustain type sound that became "Mr 335"'s signature sound and the EMGs help get that along with the electronics and the Dumble. Check EBay

[HammondB200]

Why a Strat?

[redplouhg]

ジョンスコとジョンアバが良い・

[FeitenFan]

Thanks for the great comment.....I think :-)

Hope you liked it.

[cosmojh]

To be fair, Carlton was more out of his element than anyone else here (by a long shot!). And Carlton and Ford don't use effects any more than Buzzy does. In Carlton's solo I could perceive no effect on. They may be there to use, but are seldom on (or on very high, at least). And Dumble makes GREAT amps. Abercrombie played beautifully and Scofield smoked.

[YofterMofter]

I can hear a rather long delay in Carlton's sound. Agree about Abercrombie and Scofield, John A. had an interesting solo but John S. pretty much owned it all. :-)

[cosmojh]

Yeah, okay, I hear the delay. But, this kind of delay isn't the kind of effect that makes the kind of guitar you're playing, or the tone of it, indistinguishable. That's what I was getting at. It's not like a heavy chorus, flanger, phase shifter, Big Muff or something.

[ekubalusabyan]

carlton is a moron....lol

he was supposed to use his es 335...instead, he used the shitty tone sucking valley arts

[FeitenFan]

I don't know.. with all the compression and effects (Dumble) that Larry uses I wonder if it makes any difference what guitar he uses?? (Same for Robben Ford).

[coolweasel]

Yah, John Abercrombie's solo is something else. I also like his playing even if it doesn't have that distinctive character. Really scholastic but great.

[coolweasel]

FeitenFan, thanks for uploading this video, man. I saw this years ago on a TV program called Jazz Visions and I was able to record it on Betamax. My copy was ruined by moisture, but I have a backup on tape, which I had already transferred to CD. Can you upload the entire video on a torrent site? If not, can you chop it up into songs and then upload it here? You got a really good copy!

[nakajazz]

Oh my god... where did that happened ? Clash of Giants.

[FeitenFan]

Wiltern Theatre in LA in 1986. It is around on VHS and Laserdisc. No DVD yet. There are others in the series.

[eaca79]

jhon patitucci in the bass........

[tecaster]

look at abercrombie´s solo in the 1st part