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  • Which toe??? Left or right??

  • Could you possible do another video about aiming but having the camera behind you so we can see exactly where the crown of the tip aims? Thank you.

  • Thank you. This is the first video that actually explained the method to me rather than just showing people doing it. You broke it down to each step and I greatly appreciate that.

  • thanks for your reply, and video that you sent.

    I did try using this system but the success rate is too low to impliment, looking at your video there are things that confused me.

    you say put your big toe in line with the edge , then pivot so that your cue and toe is to centre cueball.

    if this is the case you must have moved/twisted your foot, (toe in line with the edge it then is moved to the centre).

    in snooker as mentioned foot, cue and nose in line with aiming line.

    .thanks anyway

  • I am all for any system that works, but this seems to have way to many variables to it and I am not sure about using any English with it.

    For me, on center ball shots I just simply pick the point opposite of the pocket on the object ball and fire the cue ball at it.

    If I need English for the shot I aim down the outside edge of the shaft closest to the center of the cue ball at the same point opposite of the pocket on the object ball. It is always the same spot to aim at on the object ball.

  • I just started using CTE recently and its insane how easy it makes pool. If you master it, you can be unstoppable.

  • I really had trouble understanding this aiming system but now I finally figured it out, it's soooo simple and accurate, trust me. If I find time I'll make instructional video about this CTE cause I think everyone should use it.

  • @Bilijar9 I am still having trouble understanding this system... but I look forward to your explanation of it. Good luck with it. I am always willing try new things that improve my game. But no luck with this yet, for now I will stick with what works for me.

  • but if you move your body to the aiming line, why line up centre to edge, all you need to do is look at the aiming point and get down on that line.

    This is what all snooker players do. it works for them where the poclets are much tighter and where you have very little room for error

    I suppose where the cut is thick i.e 3/4 ball cte would work especially on pool tables where the pockets are more forgiving and theres more room for error.

    i did give CTE a go but didn't work for me at all

  • @alabbadi I agree with what you are saying, but I have never played snooker. But I line up on the contact point as well. I do not like this system, or at least don't really understand all the movement after lining up at different points. I aim at the contact point on the object ball opposite of the pocket for all shots. =)

  • I dont see how this would possibly work, all the shots assume half ball hit, i myself play snooker and the only time i would aim my cue at the edge of the object ball is on a half ball hit.

    i cant see this method useful for other shots, example 1/4 or less the aiming point is outside the object ball. snooker players focus on the contact point and let the brain work out the aiming.

    i did try CTE to prove it can't work, how could a system work by doing the same thing for different cuts of shot

  • @alabbadi

    You can't prove it doesn't work because it does work. The initial sighting is the same, finding the CTE line. But because the balls are in different positions the resulting body postion is different shot to shot. This is why you can move the object ball around and use CTE and still pocket the ball no matter where it sits. You are not aiming the same only aligning the same each shot - the final aim is different shot to shot.

  • @jbideastoo I give you credit for the many videos you have posted. I would very much like to learn the CTE aiming method. However, I'm lost as to what you are doing. For example, in this video "Finding The Aiming Line", you are making a left cut shot. I'm clear up to finding the CTE line from the cue ball center to the right side of the object ball. But that's where your explanation falls short. What are you aiming at from the left side of the cue ball just before you pivot?

  • @alabbadi

    You have also gotten the premise wrong. The aim is NOT a half-ball hit. The CTE line is the orientation visual not the shot line. If it were the shot line THEN it would be a half ball hit. The actual shot line is zeroed into after starting with the initial alignment that brings you to within a half ball of being on the shot line. When you do this you find the shot line easily.

  • I pretty much use CTE for just about all my shots.

  • @jbideastoo hi, thanks for the video, can you make combination shot using CTE ?

  • and is only for cut shots right? hal houle said its for all shot pocketing banks and all do you use it for all?

  • very simple, where ever the edge of the cue ball is aiming at shoot it there like hal houle said in his blog. so if your shooting to ob to the right use the right edge if the ridge edge oc cue ball is aiming at the center of right half of ob shoot it there try it out thats the real cte if dont believe me dont but try it out wher3e where the edge faces on the ob shoot it there

  • @vegasmachboylv

    I agree and this is pretty much how I use CTE. But people want a more technical example. This is exactly what Hal didn't want was a big distortion of his methods with overly technical methods.

  • This is a good video to show you how to start using cte. You should really try to find someone to teach you in person. Mastering this aiming system is not for the beginner. If you cant make 3 balls in a row then stick to picking a point on the object ball. Its not as reliable as cte but much easier to use. For intemediate players on up, this system will improve your game by leaps and bounds. Secret to the system is understanding the pivot. Only one of many is shown here.

  • @shark0505

    Good points. It's definitely easier if you have someone who knows to teach you in person. I have been able to teach it to players without even speaking the same language just by example.

  • wow. this is friggin ridiculous.

  • I don't see how this works, there is no reference to the contact point on the object ball, only the edge as seen from the player's view. a much better method can be found at suite101.com/content/snooker-a­­nd-pool-aiming-techniques.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    You are not understanding the aiming system. You dont line up the object ball with the pocket.  In fact, once you get the cte line, there is no need to look at the object ball. Its a perfect mathmatical system...thats why so many pros use it.

  • @shark0505 Are you saying it doesn't matter where the pocket is? You just line up to any object ball in the same way and the object ball just magically finds the pocket?

  • @TheSimCaptain

    I know it sounds confusing but yes you are correct. Many top pros including Franciso Bustamante use CTE to make every shot, because of its mathmatical accuracy. The only thing I use the pocket for is reference...not for aiming. If you have a standard cut shot to the right, aim center of the cue to left edge of the object ball. Come down left of that line parallel. Heres what the maker of this video left out. You need to keep your bridge hand 8-10 inches from the cue.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    To continue.Keep your bridge 8-10 inches from the cue. When you come down on the parellel line, pivot the cue by moving your right hip and your body.This is called a back pivot. Do not pivot the cue without moving your body.You might get away with this on short shots but you will surlymiss longer ones with a right arm only pivot.When you have a back cut pivot from the other side.Thats the only reason why you look at the pocket. To determine which side of the cue you pivot from.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    And yes, you line up each shot one way evertime and it just goes in. All you have to worry about is it a standard cut or back cut. Thats why this system is so effective. There is only one shot in pool with this system. Once you learn it, you will make balls like magic! However, it might take a few months to get it down, and you will likely play bad during that time. But trust me the sacrafice is well worth it. None of your friends will come close to beating you.

  • @shark0505 I don't believe this system works. You said that it is a perfect mathematical system, and you offer no mathematical proof, formula or anything. The fact that you said yourself that people using this system would probably play badly at first says it all. If it works it would work first time. What is happening is that a player has to compensate over time, maybe even subconsciously. It certainly wouldn't work in snooker, on a 12ft x 6ft table.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    Even Ghost Ball, the acid test for aiming, doesn't "work" for all players the first time you show it to them. You can bet millions of dollars on that and lose every time if you think it does. Do you know the mathematical formula for Ghost Ball aiming? Would it matter if you did? What is happening is that you don't know how it works and so you are speculating. And it works on a 6x12 as well. As long as the table is 2:1 ratio it works. Even on my little desktop table.

  • @jbideastoo Thanks for the quick reply jb. If we look at the mathematics of the geometry of CTE, we see some problems. the centre to edge set-up begins with a half-ball shot and then we move to a parallel line along the opposite edge (for right cut, the right edge). Then we pivot from our foot along that line towards the centre of the cue ball. This will always leave us with a shot that is thinner than half-ball. If the line towards the pocket is less than half-ball we will always miss.

  • @TheSimCaptain - you should look at some of my other videos. The CTE line is a SIGHTING line not a SHOOTING line. This is a crucial difference. You NEVER put the cue stick ON the CTE line and pivot from there. You merely start out using the CTE line to get your body in the initial relationship to the cue ball and object ball. Then from there you line the cue stick up as described and pivot to center cue ball. Look at my video called Parallel Shots and you can see the pivot better.

  • @jbideastoo Yes, I know the CTE line is not the shooting line, but you pivot from your right foot which is on a parallel line as you described. Therefore, for a right hand cut you move the tip of the cue 1and 1/8 inches from the right edge of the cue ball towards the centre of the cue ball, which can only result in a thinner cut. In fact, if you follow this method precisely, in any shot where the cue ball and object ball are over 57 inches apart (cue length), the cue ball will miss entirely.

  • @TheSimCaptain Actually I don't pivot from my rear foot. The pivot is somewhere in between. Please understand that when I made this video I was looking for answers as to HOW to find the place to pivot from consistently and I discovered that using my back foot and the edge of the object ball seemed to work as the second step and then sort of coming into center ball from there, pivoting, works. This works for just about all shots.

  • I think it's folly to try to apply math to the process from watching my videos. The videos are merely to demonstrate the process and allow people to try what I do and see for themselves what they come up with. Liken it to watching a demo of a food processor. You don't need to know the torque ratios and magnetic coil amperes to know it slices tomatoes. And you can see what the guy in the store does but you still have to work it out yourself at home once you take it home.

  • @jbideastoo What I think you have discovered, jb, is the importance of having your right foot on the line of aim (for a righty). As this video shows youtube.com/watch?v=iP4RvZJMPd­8.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    Correct. But the difference is that with CTE you don't have the line of aim until you start with the CTE line. The CTE is the first sighting and then the line of aim is developed from there. With simple shots it's easy enough to see the line of aim and be reasonably correct. As shots get longer or more awkward then the it's increasingly difficult to find the aiming line. And if you can't find it then you can't put your foot on it. This is the WHOLE reason for CTE.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    The whole purpose for CTE is to offer the player a way to find the line of aim that doesn't require guessing. And the results bear out. Players who use CTE are better shotmakers who gain the ability to consistently make more shots, to make tougher shots more consistently and to develop a rock solid pre-shot routine.

  • @jbideastoo jb, the reason you are making those shots is that you are a natural and gifted player. In the first shot you play, which is a straight shot, you line up the centre to edge line as if you are cutting it to the right, but you use the left edge of the cue ball which turns it back into a straight shot, and is the opposite edge to the one you say we should use in the rest of the video. Look at how your cue moves in your fourth shot, it's obviously steering, and I don't think you realise.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    I am dyslexic when it comes to directions. I realize that I said left when I meant right throughout the video. However the actions are key, not the descriptions. I use the straight shot to ILLUSTRATE the method. For straight shots you can go either direction and use either edge and the shot still works. Again please refer to the numerous videos I have made since this one to see the further study I have made. And yes, I can play but it's not because I am gifted.

  • @jbideastoo You not only said it ,jb, but you used the opposite edge to the ones you used in later shots, you lined up for a cut to the right, but USED the left hand side of the cue ball. If you had used the right hand side of the cue ball, the shot would have been thinner and would not have been straight. Anyway, I have to creep into bed now as I live in merry old England and it's 1:50 am, goodnight chum.

  • @TheSimCaptain

    That's not true. Trust me when I tell you that for a straight in shot you can use either side of the ball. The foot placement comes from using the CTE line to start with. Once again this video is early days in my discovery process, it's not intended to be a hard core instructional. It's part of my own journey to figure out why and how CTE works. Since making this video I have done plenty more and fully understand the system now.

  • @TheSimCaptain - You really have no idea about how well this system works. If you can play pool at all then I could show you shots that most good players would miss because they don't come up very often and they are awkward. With CTE you line them up and they go like magic. You can argue the math with me but the results on the table are amazing. The proof as they say is in the pudding. And it's not steering, the ball is long gone before the cue moves. Again refer to my newer videos.

  • as i think about it...the butt of the cue in your 2nd line up is....CRUCIAL... because it's tell you were to point the cue to make the shot......sooo....????

  • I understand ...but look at the video in your 2nd line up the butt of the cue is way off ..we both know in pool if your off only a very little with your aim line you will miss the shot..especally if your shooting to the far end pocket.....so if your 2nd line up is not parallel to the first line up (and you say being parallel is part of the system) then nothing is any longer valid becuse you did not follow the system.........????...

  • ????????????

    after he goes "center to edge of OB then goes parallel from center of cue ball...HIS 2ND PARALLEL LINE UP ...IS NOT PARALLEL TO HIS FIRST CENTER TO EDGE LINE UP....check it out...soo....if he is not lineing up straight......then whats up ???

  • @someindian

    The first line is always on a diagonal. Center to Edge. When I then put the cue on the line with the cue ball edge then it's as close to parallel to the CTE line as I can make it.

    This whole video is just me experimenting with the CTE method and trying to understand how to get to the aiming line from the initial CTE position. It's not textbook aiming nor is it even proper CTE.

    But the thing is that this method works amazingly well to get to the aiming line.

  • I would like to see this demonstration with your eyes closed at 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 diamond distances...and preferably a perfectly straight stroke. I saw lots of steering here. ..i.e. compensating to make the shot. 

  • @BilliardInstruction

    There is no steering. I will do a video sometime in the future to show what steering is. The veering of the stroke is what you see after the ball is struck and gone and is a natural result of follow through. Steering happens before the ball is struck and when you see both techniques side by side it's clear what is what.

  • @jbideastoo Ok, veering..anyway your stroke is not a pure straight action all the way forward through the cue ball and past. "Natural" would seem to be perfectly straight all the way, wouldn't it? The brain is very good at compensating for inaccuracies when the shot is about to go astray during the stroke. To make sure this isn't happening, the only way to prove the system is to show it with eyes closed and cuts to the left and right at different distances.

  • @BilliardInstruction

    I think that if you draw a straight line on the table and then try to stroke along that line very slowly you will find that no matter how you try you will not be able to follow the line consistently. No one can. But it's good practice to do to get your stroke as straight as it can be.

    It is practically impossible to hit a ball and have the cuetip follow a straight path after the hit. This is partially due to the natural resistance encountered when the ball is struck.

  • @jbideastoo Video attached showing a nearly perfect stroke along a line al the way back and all the way forward. What do you think?

  • @BilliardInstruction

    In the video you don't follow through - you are stopping the cue tip just slightly past the object ball. Your cue tip is deflecting away from the cueball and then you are bringing it back onto the line. This is seen in the slwo motion shots.

    I think that the video is good to show differing amounts of deflection. However I maintain that most people cannot stroke 100% straight even when they are trying very hard to do so.

  • @jbideastoo I stroke with a slip cue on every shot greater than (-4 speed) whereas the cue tip always ends up min. 4" past the cue ball...and very straight. The tip will always deflect when applying sidespin. The shaft is bending to the left and returning to it's center point. I am not bringing it back the shaft is naturally returning to center.

    And, Yes you are correct more than most people cannot stroke straight....who haven't been to the Academy of the Cueing Arts!

    Cheers,

  • I tried this aiming method per the video and it seemed to work well using center hits on the cue ball. Is there a different method when I need to apply english? Or is this simply for aiming using ONLY center hit cue ball shots?

  • @Real5am

    For the application of side spin you can use Back Hand English or Shifted English. Aiming with side spin is the next step once you can reliably find the center ball aiming line.

  • thank you,a great job .easy to understand and presented well.

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