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  • Orly needs to be kicked out of the US. She's a bottom feeding lowlife with an online law degree and zero credability. Just because faux news posters like William Wagner say she's telling the truth it doesn't make it so. Funny how none of the actual facts support a single thing Orly says. BTW in a recent poll 70% of americans say Obama is our legal president.

  • 56% of Americans doubt Obama was born in USA.

  • Sinclair is a felon...u got that right?

  • orly taitz has got to win a prize for cunt of the year. she opposes obama because he grew up with radical islam and was groomed in the environment of the dirty Chicago mafia. she asks "Can there be anything scarier than that?" has this got anything to do with the fact that she supports israel's continued war crimes against palestinians? she is so fucking blind to the obvious, she is a fake lawyer and a dodgy dentist who needs a slap in the twat to sort her out ASAP

  • Does that make you feel good or superior to say house-nigger???? You are a pathetic asswipe. You don't live in the US so butt out.

  • Orly Taitz, is a loser.  She won't be an attorney much longer with the level of fail she is going at.

  • It has nothing to do with "enemies of freedom", and everything to do with Orly knowingly entering forged documents into evidence, asking people to lie, refusing to follow court rules, and filing frivolous lawsuits and appeals.

    Oh and good work on showing that no matter what he brings you will call it a fake. Why don't you just stick to the politics of your own country, and stay the hell out of the business of Americans?

  • Yeah. It's Obama's fault, because you birthers are such a powerful force. Geez.

  • You have no evidence none whatsoever that Obama is a U.S. Citizen, You're fucking mad because he's a black man happens to be your president. Give it up prick!

  • "you are a house nigger."

    What the hell dude?

  • Racist much?

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  • My last post on this subject.. To be partisan one has to belong to a party. I am an independent--not GOP or Dem. Give me a ring when zerobama is proven to be a fake and phoney, much like the guy that "did not have sex with that woman..." At that time, Clinton supporters were trashing those who did not believe him, much like zerobama's are doing now as a result of his sealing all his records and hiding his real identity.There is more than just a "blue dress" out there--and it wil be found,.

  • Five stars

  • Well, I see that all my posts have been removed, so I'll say goodbye to all you zerobama supporters. You've managed to get my free speech violated just as zerobama wants. All opposing views of others have also been scrubbed. So to all those who are reading these posts take notice: you'll be losing all your freedoms if zerobama continues usurping the presidency of our United States and using Saul Alinsky tactics to silence your voice. He will be stopped in the end.

  • Yes, I would mind if Orly Taitz ran for any office besides dog catcher!

  • Thank you! You are absolutely correct.

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  • GMBCATASTROPHE:

    the republicans are already trash, nobody has to do anything but pay attention and watch the supid things they do and say and check out how false thier lies are.

  • Orly Taitz: an idiot Russian peroxide blonde with 0 knowledge of American laws, and natural born citizen definition.

    Just a clown with an unaccredited online law course. She should be deported to Russia!

  • If you are an educated Republican - is there any doubt now that you're party has gone fishing? Come back to the light - GOP/RNC/Birthers - Time to have you committed! LOL.

  • KjamesB: Educated Republican is a qualified oxymoron, any republican that is ether intelligent or educated is also either delusional or criminal.

  • These people aren't worth bickering with. They make up laws and stipulations to support their crackpot theories, and ANY birth certificate would be declared "fake." These are the same people who discard rational thought, calm debate, and even honesty - in favor of the principle of "because he's a doodiehead!!"

    For eight years, everytime I made any remarks on GWB, I was shouted down and told that dissent from his views was treason. Well, maybe it's us Dems' jobs to return the favor.

  • It's interesting that the level of proof they demand of Obama's birth certificate is much greater than that which they require of Orly Taitz' evidence.

  • Well stated.

  • Well you don't know he was an American in the first place. But I'd dispute that he wouldn't have to go through the motions, take the pledge and repatriate.

    If he's legit then he wouldn't have hidden anything in the first place. If you cannot see that there is something wrong with his eligibility you are not going to notice whole football teams going in and out of your wifes bedroom.

    Se if you can find another President pulling this stunt? Nixon? Anyone?

    People have got to stop being dumb.

  • Goose steppers don't have time to read. AP released Occidental College enrollment for Obama, registered as a foreign student with Indonesian citizenship.

    Why?

    Because he has Indonesian citizenship, he has an Indonesian passport.

    He never reaffirmed his American citizenship because that would make him a naturalized citizen having had Indonesian citizenship from his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.

    So he has COLB. And umpteen aliases and numerous Social Security numbers. He is a fraud.

  • Even if he ever had an Indonesian passport, that doesn't negate his US citizenship. US law is quite specific in this. A parent can't strip a child of US citizenship; that child must, at the age of majority, denounce his own US citizenship and Obama never did that. There was never a need to reaffirm this. Just check out the law yourself. I've listed it in my previous videos.

  • How much are you earning promoting Obama's crap, did you get hired from CraigsList?

    When you are not born of both parents who are citizens you are not natural born. Natural born means you have no allegiance any where else to distract from being a good president.

    Why does it not negate it? Because it pleases you? His panel of czars are just advising him on who to deny coverage to & to whom to give assisted suicide to. Maybe its you, your mother or father, Or more likely, you don't give a damn.

  • I might ask you the same questions, because it is clear you've failed to do any independent research. You are merely a parrot, repeating what your master's tell you. I simply invited you to check existing federal law. If that task is beyond you then I certainly can't help that!

    I see that your anti-Obama idiocy isn't limited to being a birther. Now you are buying into Palin's shit. You truly will believe anything, as long as it satisfies your emotional need to be a victim.

  • I presume you are setting yourself up as the real thing (not a phony) yet you offer no facts in defense of Taitz. Of course, that would be difficult for you to do, because you would reject any fact that does not agree with your opinion.

    In point of fact, I'm a trained scientist and believe in the scientific method. I would welcome the opportunity to review your "facts", if they exist.

  • Gee! I'm at lost for words. You're a real life, trained scientist? Like the fictional one that created the Frankenstein monster--or just supporting the one "acting" as president. There are so many "experts" and learned men without an ounce of common sense to wonder why a man would spend close to two million dollars to hide who he truly is. Would it make you wonder what he is trying to hide? Of course not, you"re a trained scientist, a smart man/woman.

  • No, you aren't at a loss for words. You've got lots of them; they don't count for much, but maybe if you throw a lot of them together people wont notice.

    If you'll remember, I asked you for facts. You've offered nothing but more innuendo and supposition, which is why your word count in unimpressive.

  • Oily tater titz?

  • LMAO

    he never showed a birth certificate, he showed a certificate of life birth.. xD what a dumbo

  • What's the cool music?

    Has Taitz made any appearances since the MSNBC meltdown?

    Thanks!

  • Obama never had to repatriate because he never gave up his US citizenship. Check out the law itself and you'll see. Whatever you think of his place of birth, he had been recognized as a US citizen - with a US passport - when he traveled to Indonesia. US citizenship is remarkably hard to lose. Parents can't do it for kids. Only the child, when he's of age, can renounce his citizenship before a US official, but there is no record of that ever happening.

  • You are thick as a brick. A child does not lose his US citizenship, under US law. Obama never lost his in Indonesia and thus, never had to repatriate. This is simple, basic law.

  • Ding ding ding! That's why there are illegal immigrants scrambling to give birth in the States.

  • So you reckon they are all trying to be President? You are mixing up citizen with "natural born citizen". This business about Vattel is relevant to figuring out what exactly the founding fathers MEANT at the time by the phrase "natural born citizen". He wrote his book in 1758. And it might well be that this is what they thought they were saying with the phrase.

    US case law is irrelevant since judges have to get their own constitutional amendment if they wish to change the law.

  • This is quite apart from the fact that Barry hasn't proven his Hawaiian birth. The registrar has made this claim, illegally by the way. She has to prove it. We cannot go on her sayso alone.

  • Take the eligibility to get into another country. You refuse point blank to tell them who you are. You wont show them your Visa. You refuse to wear your pants or underwear. And youve stuffed your shirt with all this gear and are telling everyone its hardcore drugs Well it doesnt matter that your Visa would check out, you could CONCEIVABLY put your underpants and your pants back on.

  • you could CONCEIVABLY demonstrate that you were only joking around about the drugs. and so forth Well the fact is you are still not eligible to get through the gates.

  • He would have to repatriate and take the oath its nothing his alleged real father did. He was adopted.

    It wouldn't be announced at the US consulate if he were not a citizen in the first place. And no thats not credible. Since it would be a matter between them and Indonesia. The US cannot force them to show up at a consulate and renounce matters.

    He would have to repatriate and take the oath.

    But this is secondary to him refusing to prove eligibility. Unwillingness makes him ineligible.

  • Sure he can. Supposing he was a US citizen in the first place. He becomes an Indonesian citizen. He has to go through immigration again and take the oath if he is to become a US citizen.

    Now it does not look like he did that. If here were a citizen. And in 1980 he appears to have gone to Pakistan on the basis of whatever his non-US citizenship was at the time.

  • US Immigration and Naturalization Law states that a minor child can not form the intent to give up his US citizenship. Even if his mother and stepfather wanted him to be an Indonesian citizen, Obama still would have retained his US citizenship and would not have had to take an oath to regain it. You can't regain what you've never lost. He went to Pakistan with a US passport like any US citizen could at the time.

  • No no. You are wrong. He HAD TO give up his American citizenship to become an Indonesian at that time.

    I'm not saying that if he was an American and gave it up (which we don't know) he couldn't get it back as a formality. But he would still have to take the oath. And we would need to know when he did this and the documentation for this.

  • There is no mystery about the motivation. Firstly he's ruining the country. Now he's trying to set up a dictatorship via the health legislation. He's spending you into oblivion. There are killings associated with him in Kenya and the US. And he refuses to prove he's eligible.

    You don't KNOW he's eligibile. Since he refuses to prove it.. And any eligibility requirement requires not just the ability to prove eligibility, but also the WILLINGNESS to do so.

  • No thats not right. If he became an Indonesian citizen he had to give up his American citizen. Since Indonesia at that time would not allow any dual citizenship.

    So you don't know if he's a US citizen unless you have the date and documentation of his repatriation.

  • No we aren't debunked. .What are we debunked by? He's only come up with fake documents. You cannot be debunked by a fake African documents. I'm sure Obama's got a thousand more where that came from.

    The only evidence is the REAL documents. And Obama will not hand them over.

    Hawaiian assurances aren't enough. We need to know if he's repatriated from Indonesia for starters.Berg reckons he's received a bunch of fake documents. Whats that evidence for? Not for his eligibility.

  • "You cannot be debunked by a fake African documents(sic)" Well said. It applies directly to Taitz faked Kenyan birth certiicate.

  • It's her faked Kenyan birth certificate. She bought it fair and square from the guy who tried to sell it on eBay. Oh, I forgot. She's just a victim of the evil government, and if she didn't bother to validate it's authenticity before she opened her mouth - well that must have been because of government mind control.

  • Yes, the Kenyan BC was proven fake. No, it hasn't been authenticated. No, no one is riding it hard...this is old news and you are just late getting on the bandwagon.

    Even her own client has denounced her as unprofessional!

  • Good question, yet we see people doing such things every day. For instance, when Mr. Smith was deposed in Taitz' case against Obama, he stated several times that Taitz had coached him to lie. His testimony was damning! Either he's lying about her, or she's the liar. Even if Taitz was telling the truth she failed to do due diligence in verifying her evidence. Cpt. Barnett - her client - also castigated Taitz. With so many liars, what can be believed?

  • I meant, Cpt. Rhodes not Cpt. Barnett.

  • You should really read Smith's deposition (10/12/09)! It's very illuminating. If Smith, Taitz' "star witness" and the cornerstone of the case is telling the truth, then Smith is a convicted criminal, Taitz was having an extramarital affair with her aid who himself is a disbarred attorney, and that Taitz refused to do any research or investigation to prove the case. Smith was amazed that Taitz believed Obama had to prove his innocence in a US court of law! I'm amazed too!!

  • Why do birthers require a greater level of proof of Obama's status as a natural born citizen then they do of their own evidence? I know, I know! Because if they required the same level of integrity of their own sources they'd have nothing to talk about.

  • The Constitutional requirement that only a natural born citizen, that is a person born on USA soil to two USA citizen parents, could serve as POTUS, has been set by precedent, in the history of all US Presidents, being born on USA soil to two USA citizen parents. Not all parents were born in the USA, as some were naturalized before the birth. One VP succeeded to POTUS, on assassination, but kept secret he was not NBC. We know about Obama, and we are onto him.

  • While some things may be done traditionally, they don't supersede the rule of law, or interpretation of the law by courts.  The law, as interpreted by judges since the late part of the 19th century holds that one can be a natural born citizen even if neither parent is a citizen. The Constitution does not define "natural born citizen" nor does it require 2 US citizen parents.

  • SmallWorldFilms, the law does define "dual-natioals" and "dual citizenship"

    Example:

    32CFR147 --granting security clearance

    32CFR147.5(c) Conditions that could mitigate security concerns include: (1) Dual citizenship

    is based solely on parents citizenship or birth in a foreign country;

  • Thank you! I appreciate people who provide references so that I can read and learn.

    However, the definition of dual-citizenship does not relate to or define natural born citizen.

    A person could not be president if he had dual citizenship, but Obama lost that status at the age of 21.

    Courts hold that natural born citizenship is based on the concept of jus soli ("law of ground") or citizenship based on where the individual was born.

  • SWF, Citizenship only requires birth of blood or on soil. If NBC only required birth on soil, then a few million anchor babies would qualify for POTUS. At best,you have flimsy evidence of a Hawaiian birth, Hawaiian residence, yes, but not a birth. The requirement, of both blood and soil for NBC, has long been established and followed, until, BHO. Obama admits his father was British. He is dual citizen. What reference have you to show at age 21 BHO II, changed to a naturalized citizen or NBC?

  • Actually I did a series of 3 videos covering this topic, with references. Please feel free to check them out.

    British law at the time required that persons who had citizenship as the result of having a Kenyan parent had, at the age of 21, to renounce any other citizenship or lose their British citizenship. Since he didn't renounce his US citizenship, he lost his British citizenship.

    While both blood and soil are criteria for NBC, they are not required to be present in the same person.

  • I disagree with your assessment of the validity of the Hawaiian birth certificate. The State has certified publicly that he is a US citizen, which is what is required by law.

  • SmallWorldFilms, you are free, for now, to trust the government. It is not that I don't trust the State of Hawaii government, but I simply can't. We dont destroy vital records, Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. Thats our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records.  Google M1139416728.GIF

  • I am free, for as long as I wish and for as much or as little as I wish, to trust the government, but when you are talking about the law - as we are - the only recourse is to go about changing the law if you don't like it.

  • "Barack Obama presented the COLB, which was verified by the State of Hawaii. "

    No you are lying. The State of Hawaii have verified that they have his birth certificate. They have NOT verified any rubbish that Barry has left lying around the net.

    And this latest fraud is just another bad mark against the Soetoro camp.

  • You see the anti-vigilance case is just based on relentless lying.

  • No you are lying. He hasn't presented his birth certificate. Neither you or anyone out of Hawaii has seen it. And while the Hawaiians say they have his birth certificate they aren't going to show it to anyone. They have not endorsed any of the certificates that have been on the internet. Nor would they be likely to endorse such fakery.

  • Thank You, but they will still believe otherwise..

  • Well he ought to prove that he was born on US soil then. Because a 100 fake documents won't add up to a real one.

  • What the video you're posting on, Mr. Brilliant. I can show you my sources.

    Constitution.

    U.S. Case Law

    A lot more merit than those videos you're referring people to. This is spam.

  • I can show you my series of videos too, but mine are based on the Constitution, federal law, and legal determinations by actual judges. I did my own actual research before making the videos.

    I do admire your devotion to your cause, just not the amount of actual effort you've put into verifying what you say.

  • There is nothing in the Constitution about having two citizens for parents in order to be eligible for the Presidency. Did you watch the video? Or is this just spam?

  • Interesting that you said there are two conditions of citizenship stated in the Constitution. Can you show me? Because every copy I've ever seen does not define natural born citizen. You must have one of those copies being printed by the Orly Taitz Publishing Co., the same folks who brought you the Canadian Birth Certificate forgery and the Kenyan Birth Certificate forgery.

    Frankly, I prefer reality and the real Constitution.

  • Why dont somebody just pay for her planeticket so she can go and see the bloody certificate herself? If that dont help, they should just put her in a mental hospital.

  • Wont do, She'll just say it was fabricated.. Now shes getting all the delusional idiots following her now..

  • Well if you are going to fabricate documents in the first place and not show any real ones, of course any document you do show is eventually going to be taken for yet another fake.

  • Well there is a very easy answer to that isn't there. Obama refuses point blank to show anyone his certificate.

  • Just look at the mindset of dennymclain2008. The conspiracist mind is willing to create all sorts of intricate plots to explain away their own failure to authenticate documents. Taitz hasn't shown much interest in ethics in the past. I fully expect she'd explain away evidence that doesn't support her agenda.

  • She has a market for her crazy ideas about America. White supremest, racist and conspiracy kooks. Even though this is a very,very small percentage of Americans it is still enough to fill up a football stadium.That means somewhere between 50,000 - 70,000 ppl. That may sound like a lot but keep in mind that there are around 300million Americans. This movement is proof that the deep south has taken over the republican party and that is bad news for the G.O.P. nationwide. Obama is sure to win again!

  • Stupid Israeli Racist Bitch!

  • Call Orly Taitz and let her know what you think: (949) 683-5411

  • Citizen/Natural Born Citizen are two completely different things. Look it up.

  • did you guys see the document she produced saturday night? wnd picked it up... it looks authentic. we need to have it authenticated. if it is a hoax... it does not discredit birthers, the only way to do that is for obama to release his real vault copy.

  • It doesn't discredit Taitz if she files a blatant forgery with a court? Must be nice to not have to worry about being truthful or honest I suppose.

    Protip: that picture of the doc claims that it's from the "Republic of Kenya." Problem with that is the doc is dated over half a year before the Republic of Kenya was formed.

  • i said it doesnt discredit birthers you retard. can you not fkn read? just because obama's nutjobs plant a hoax does not let him off the hook. why doesnt he release his records? because he is the Joker!!!!!!!!!

  • Taitz is the "Queen of the birthers." She's put forth this allegation that this picture of a doc represents Obama's true birth certificate. There are very basic problems with it that make it a pretty obvious forgery. Any court submission is done under oath; if she's fallen for such an obvious hoax, then that's more evidence she has no credibility (not that she did anyway, her pleadings are packed with falsehoods). If your leader has no credibility, the movement doesn't either.

  • actually she submitted it for 'authentification"... and you want to crucify her?

    she WOULDNT HAVE TO IF THE JOKER WOULD RELEASE HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

  • She submitted a picture of a document; she doesn't know where it actually came from (she presumes Kenya), and again, there are parts of this document that make it a blatant forgery (signed by a laundry detergent brand; "Republic of Kenya" months before its founding, Mombasa was part of Zanzibar).

    Yes, for taking a blatant forgery like that and wasting the court's time on it she should be sanctioned and disbarred, along with all the other items in the lengthy bar ethics complaint against her.

  • She should have "authenticated" it before running to the press.  It would have been the ethical thing to do.

  • How does it NOT discredit birthers if they offer up lies and forgeries? How does it not discredit Taitz if she offers up a forgery to an officer of the court, as an officer of the court?

    Or am I really supposed to believe that Taitz is so gullible that, as you say, Obama's folks gave her a hoax to discredit her? Really? How can you say that with a straight face? Even if this were true, she'd still be wrong for not checking the veracity of the "document" before opening her mouth about it.

  • While Orly Taitz was born in Russia, she emigrated to Israel and has dual US/Israeli citizenship. The California State Bar website lists her undergrad degree as Hebrew University, Jerusalem. It is curious she downplays her Israeli side and always says, "I was born in the Soviet Union". It is disloyal to the country that took her in and educated her. Could it be she is well aware of the antipathy so many on the right have toward Jews?

  • Good information!

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