I love the $hitheads who think they know everything!! lol Most couldn't stick both fingers up their hiney's with a blue-print...but yet they know how to fly this aircraft. lol
i think this happened to me during the take off from Hong Kong to Frankfurt back in december last year, like start taking off then after a few seconds *bang* and they slam on the breaks...pretty scary
No shit? The real cause was one of the little illegal beaners inside the engines that spin the fans blew a taco fart just as another was lighting a cigarette. NO SMOKING YOU TORTILLA BENDERS!
Yes. The aircraft can climb out with 3 engines. I don´t know how heavy the aircraft was at this time but with skilled pilot´s that situation is not abnormal dangerous. I said the "V1 thing" because the pilots could abord the take off run, start again and fly to their destination. Otherwise (after V1) they would have had to take off and come back as an emergency. That would be more complicated. If it´s any consolation, any multiengine aircraft can start with an engine failure.
I would venture a bet it was either a bird strike or FOD. The statement posted saying he could not see anything is almost laughable! A small bird or a paper coffee cup is enough to cause a compressor stall/surge to occur. Rarely is it caused by "nothing".
just a compressor stall probably from getting on the throttle too quickly, he aborted the takeoff because the 747 is a big airplane and needs all th eengines to safely do its run, he probably just taxied around and tried again and took off, if this happened while airborn the aircraft would auto compensate [the rudder movement on the video] and the pilot would restart it and the passengers might feel a little yawing motion is all
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Oh man too bad it hadn't have taken off. Cause these guys were filming it so we'd have had a real plane crash caught on video. Damn. Why didn't they take off? How did they know the engine blew. Crap I wanted to see the crash caught on video. Good job anyway guys.
There is no system like this. They immediately step on the pedal (rudder) to balance.
Regarding not to take off: If it happened before V1 (decision speed) they will not take off, it is still safety to stop on the runway. But even if they take off 1 engine failure for a 747 is a piece on the cake...
Nope. Definitely compressor surge. There is no indication of any flying debris/animals in front of the engine. Also, the flameout looks pretty much like every other compressor surge. A bird strike looks much different.
If the engine demands a pressure rise from the compressor, which is higher than the blading of the compressor can sustain, 'surge' occurs. in this case there is an instantaneous breakdown of the flow through the engine and the high pressure air in the combustion system is expelled forward through the compressor with a loud bang, (right from the rolls royce engine textbook) there are valves on the engines to prevent surging, but sometimes shit happens, hope this helps
haha yeah man, have it all, and a jep gas turbine textbook aswell, so i have all the information, also after that for the surging of the compressor, it does say you have a loss in thrust aswell, so they will abort the take off, pretty sure they will have the engineers look over the engine again, if nothing is damaged and its ok, they will relight the engine and try again, they do have load valves and surge valves, surge valves are open on start up,
Makes me laugh how people speculate, and seem to know more about aircraft incidences, than the pilot in command of the aircraft that is indeed in the incident !! Weirdos !
@phatrides222000 it certainly looked like a flameout, its still on the taxi so thats certainly a good thing. If its an airline that has to fly over water it could operate down to one engine...but thats assuming the planes load is relatively light. I know Pan Am once did an emergency landing in Tokyo with only one engine...kinda incredible to think about it.
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No, he was taking off. The engine failed just on the right time so the pilot can stop the plane before it overrun the runway. Imagine engine failing at about 160mph when it about to liftoff... Disaster!
No No everyone you have it wrong....The timing is out a mile, poss wrong spark plugs have been used too! just needs an advancement of the dist cap and she's good to go! lol
lol its Kalita airways, a transportplane but that plane crasched some months ago during take off from the belgium airport Zaventem! And e few weeks later the the sister plane of this one also in US (but dont know where)
I think it was a tertiary disk placement on a bifocal protolinear subcarbine, malfunctioning in the tachioneucleic transconverter that caused an eruption of bullshit speculation in the comments of this YouTube video.
I live in Alabama and have been as far away as Kansas, Indiana, West Virginia, Haiti, Jamaica, Belize, Guatamala, Cayman Islands and Mexico and have NEVER flown, nor will I...
About the Air France crash, the pilots had seconds to decide and I don't think they were aware of the fact that their fuel tank was leaking and caused a huge fire. They probably thought it was an engine fire which is a different case that, if handleded correctly (which is what they were trying to do by taking off), would cause no problem. Unfortunately, the fire was so severe that it burned their vertical stablelizer on the left wing (or right I'm not sure) so they couldn't control the aircraft.
in four engined aircraft's, pilots may decide which to start. Number 1 and number 4, may start simultaneously, and 2 with 3. In twin aircraft's, pilots also do the same by either left-right, or right-left. In the sim, I always in Twin engined planes do left-right, but there is no rule for it. (I may be mistaken, so correct me if I'm wrong)
But what its worth, if you start 1 and 2 or 3 and 4, you'll have to much power on one side, and may turn the plane standing still.
u know i think your right- in big planes you might have to muchpower if you start up both engines on one side- but i do think its its always startup from right to left because the foottraffic from the ground crews always work on the left side(the gates) and baggage is always handled first.
There is no way that two engines idling on one wing have enough power to turn the plane standing still. It is normal procedures to start the engines in order. Ie: 4, 3, 2, 1.
correct. starting a commercial engine you want to keep your N1 low and your N2 High for startups. you push throttle to about 35% at 21% N1 you turn fuel master on. at 29% N1 you move throttle (For that perticular engine) back to idle. Or else u would start turning (Or suck in your usher)
Give it a go ;-)... The management systems won't let you. I'm building a controller myself for one of my own engines - it won't switch in the starters unless throttle at idle and then no fuel until N1 at light off speed - anything more will mean hot start and cooked engine.
what the fuck does PPL have to do with jet engines on a commercial jet? shut up and listen, it is in the startup checklist to set the throttles at idle, fuel on depends on engine type and is at a specific N2% (usually 15-17%), not N1. N1 is near 0-4% at that time
nothin more annoying than all the video game pilots thinking they know all about flying a boeing. oh and btw...ppl != atpl, you should know that but i doubt you have a ppl...smartasses like you get kicked out of the plane after takeoff by responsible FIs. :)
on 'commercial engines' (btw what is a commerical engine? I've never heard of that phrase in all my years in aviation) there are idle detents - you don't touch throttles when starting engines.
So that it's equally powered. Starting 1, on the left wing first, then 4 on the right wing to counteract the turning tendancy caused by more power on one side, then 2, because you started on the left so you go on sequence, and obviously 3 is the only one left.
Uhhh, actually, that was more consistant with a compressor stall from what I can see. Unlikeley it was because of Fuel/Air ratio as Pkay said.
Most large carriers outline in their SOP's
the aircraft may only abort T/O if airspeed is below V1.
The aircraft takes much too long to slow after
the V1 callout; blown tires would be the least of your worries. Although in some cases, abort is possible past V1, every good pilot knows it is not safe, with such a large aircraft, SOP's or not.
Not necesarrily. You can still abort safely at V1. Instead of calling for "rotate", you call for abort, you blow a few tires, but it's better than taking off the ground with a serious engine problem.
Indeed. Thats what V1 is.. the point of no return, past V1 you've not got enough runway to stop, and you have to rotate.
I insist to this day that the Air France Concord crash could have been prevented had the pilot not rotated. He may have overrun the end of the runway, but that's still far safer than rotating with that situation.
Unfortunately, it's very hard to make your argument. It's been statistically proven that aborting after V1 is more dangerous then continuing to fly. Your argument is the as someone saying seatbelts are not safe when someone cant get out of a burning car. There are ALWAYS exceptions but there is not enough time for the pilot to get all the available information. He needs to make the choice hes been trained to make.
There isnt any engine malfunction that a pilot should abort for after V1. That's why there is a V1 callout and why the pilot takes his hand off the thrust levers at V1.
Dude I'm so high right now!"
-Cool -_-
smoke10108 8 months ago 3
He hit a pole with the left engine. He should not be flying big jets. He should be in a cessna.
purge98 8 months ago
@purge98 you should really go to spec savers... btw does your mother know your on here???
kevinp496691 5 months ago
I love the $hitheads who think they know everything!! lol Most couldn't stick both fingers up their hiney's with a blue-print...but yet they know how to fly this aircraft. lol
666laika 9 months ago
i think this happened to me during the take off from Hong Kong to Frankfurt back in december last year, like start taking off then after a few seconds *bang* and they slam on the breaks...pretty scary
mildminotaur 11 months ago
"i got it on film"
the other guy was about to say "cool story bro"
lol
bobish101 11 months ago
its just a surge no bege happens sometimes
houshidar558 1 year ago
"Cool"
morningwoodsir 1 year ago
It stalled
Laxpowertoo 1 year ago
Abort. Smart Pilot.
showiproute 1 year ago
No shit? The real cause was one of the little illegal beaners inside the engines that spin the fans blew a taco fart just as another was lighting a cigarette. NO SMOKING YOU TORTILLA BENDERS!
madisonelectronic 1 year ago
Luck for the pilot´s that the event was before V1 so they were able to abord the take off.
Slaterator 1 year ago
@Slaterator Would it still have a sufficient rate of climb with 3 engines?
brettv8 10 months ago
@brettv8
Yes. The aircraft can climb out with 3 engines. I don´t know how heavy the aircraft was at this time but with skilled pilot´s that situation is not abnormal dangerous. I said the "V1 thing" because the pilots could abord the take off run, start again and fly to their destination. Otherwise (after V1) they would have had to take off and come back as an emergency. That would be more complicated. If it´s any consolation, any multiengine aircraft can start with an engine failure.
Slaterator 10 months ago
Looks like Compressor Stall/Surge to me.
BJWTF 1 year ago
maybe a bird was sucked in
Manongjojo 1 year ago
Chuck Norris was standing next to the runway and he just farted. The engine absorbed the fart.
emadeloc 1 year ago
@emadeloc Wouldnt the fart absorb the engine?
shellite 1 year ago
@shellite Sure. Just before Norris eat the airplane.
emadeloc 1 year ago
i just love how its silent then all of a sudden "i got it on film" "cool"
444ownage 1 year ago
wow man, some fire came out of that big thing on the wing
TracyAndersonFoxhunt 1 year ago
chuck norris was obviously standing next to the runway and the engine couldn't handle it =P
hugetits92007 1 year ago 3
the engine burped after eating some birds
al3x440 1 year ago
great video, fast response from the crew.
doushiyou12 1 year ago
I would venture a bet it was either a bird strike or FOD. The statement posted saying he could not see anything is almost laughable! A small bird or a paper coffee cup is enough to cause a compressor stall/surge to occur. Rarely is it caused by "nothing".
hububub46 1 year ago
i got it on film...
-cool
pidddi1234 1 year ago
BLOWN COMPRESSOR,WHAT A DRAG @ T.O.
Y2R4U 1 year ago
"I got it on film" "Cool!"
rann1968 2 years ago 97
fail
Skakid789 2 years ago 3
rejected takeoff
MRmatthieu49 2 years ago 3
Look how the plane turns left from uneven thrust when it blows.
rainerfilm 2 years ago
yeah, you can see the rudder moving to straighten the airplane
goccioloni 2 years ago
just a compressor stall probably from getting on the throttle too quickly, he aborted the takeoff because the 747 is a big airplane and needs all th eengines to safely do its run, he probably just taxied around and tried again and took off, if this happened while airborn the aircraft would auto compensate [the rudder movement on the video] and the pilot would restart it and the passengers might feel a little yawing motion is all
sstroh08 2 years ago
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Oh man too bad it hadn't have taken off. Cause these guys were filming it so we'd have had a real plane crash caught on video. Damn. Why didn't they take off? How did they know the engine blew. Crap I wanted to see the crash caught on video. Good job anyway guys.
njdx1 2 years ago
wow your so fucking mean what if it happened to you while you were airborne?
Bothanstreet 2 years ago
fuckin dipshit
2001LincolnV8LS 2 years ago
Notice the rudder immediatly steering to the right after the fire... Just a coincidence?
wwwforlixorg 2 years ago
It's an automated safety system that enables the aircraft to fly straight eve with a failed engine.
nuchikim 2 years ago
And this automated safety system called = PILOT!
There is no system like this. They immediately step on the pedal (rudder) to balance.
Regarding not to take off: If it happened before V1 (decision speed) they will not take off, it is still safety to stop on the runway. But even if they take off 1 engine failure for a 747 is a piece on the cake...
tsgucci 2 years ago 3
Looks like compressor surge?
MisterBaz1 2 years ago
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rainerfilm 2 years ago
Nope. Definitely compressor surge. There is no indication of any flying debris/animals in front of the engine. Also, the flameout looks pretty much like every other compressor surge. A bird strike looks much different.
MisterBaz1 2 years ago 2
what is a compressor surge?
and what kind of effect does it generally have on the engine? total failiure or can the engine run damaged?
p3rs0n42 2 years ago
If the engine demands a pressure rise from the compressor, which is higher than the blading of the compressor can sustain, 'surge' occurs. in this case there is an instantaneous breakdown of the flow through the engine and the high pressure air in the combustion system is expelled forward through the compressor with a loud bang, (right from the rolls royce engine textbook) there are valves on the engines to prevent surging, but sometimes shit happens, hope this helps
jv180sx 2 years ago 3
that's spot on, thanks man =]
You have a rolls royce engine text book?
p3rs0n42 2 years ago
haha yeah man, have it all, and a jep gas turbine textbook aswell, so i have all the information, also after that for the surging of the compressor, it does say you have a loss in thrust aswell, so they will abort the take off, pretty sure they will have the engineers look over the engine again, if nothing is damaged and its ok, they will relight the engine and try again, they do have load valves and surge valves, surge valves are open on start up,
jv180sx 2 years ago
I scored one million on Guitar Hero, which means I know how to fly a plane.
Seriously though, it would be interesting to know what caused the failure.
MichaelJHuman 2 years ago
Makes me laugh how people speculate, and seem to know more about aircraft incidences, than the pilot in command of the aircraft that is indeed in the incident !! Weirdos !
yzextreme 2 years ago
probably just a major engine surge
Biller02 2 years ago
must be a general motors product or now i guess gov. motors.... lol j/k
gitit20 2 years ago 2
I love the so-called pilots on youtube who probably have no more experience than flying the default 747 in FSX :)
kantk2008 2 years ago 46
what about the real pilots?
bounceferret 2 years ago
haha yeah, isn't it entertaining! :p lol...
an aborted takeoff is no more dramatic than having to break hard for a red light, especially at a speed well below V1..
kjellkjellkjell123 2 years ago
@kantk2008 Oh my fuck tell me about it. Kids...
NovaScotiaKevin 1 year ago
@kantk2008 lol, Im no pilot, But wasnt that a flame out.
phatrides222000 1 year ago
@phatrides222000 it certainly looked like a flameout, its still on the taxi so thats certainly a good thing. If its an airline that has to fly over water it could operate down to one engine...but thats assuming the planes load is relatively light. I know Pan Am once did an emergency landing in Tokyo with only one engine...kinda incredible to think about it.
R5H4D0W 1 year ago
@kantk2008 then it makes me a pilot lol
DevinL16 1 year ago
@kantk2008 I love the FSX pilots that sometimes it seams have more experience than real ones. ;)
airbornerat 6 months ago
did you give the film to the authorities ? ...
fallingta 2 years ago
birdstrike
and a boeing :)
marcelodelagoXD 2 years ago
haha they talk like a family guy scene
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kooltravi 2 years ago
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FordMazda3 2 years ago
Luckly the pilot had time to stop the plane at this speed.
Gamerwillz 2 years ago 4
Are you serious? He was hardly moving, it looks like the t/o run had only just started.
pjholl 2 years ago
No, he was taking off. The engine failed just on the right time so the pilot can stop the plane before it overrun the runway. Imagine engine failing at about 160mph when it about to liftoff... Disaster!
Gamerwillz 2 years ago
if one engine fails jsut before lift-off, there are still 3 left, so I wouldnt talk about a disaster ! It may be an incidence, but not a disaster
pookiesulas 2 years ago 2
Thats uneven thrust in the sides, bad for take off, bad for flying.
rhynix20 2 years ago
Planes are designed to continue flying with engine failures.
LucrativeFuture 2 years ago
yeah but that's in flight, during take off if you have an engine failure [if possible] you abort it.
danielfisher94 2 years ago
i don't think it was an engine failure
LucrativeFuture 2 years ago
no, in fact , you're right..(Y)
MASTERCARDUZ 2 years ago
WHAT ARE THE ODS OF CATCHING SMETHING LIKE THIS?
Good job dood!
sam3d 2 years ago
No No everyone you have it wrong....The timing is out a mile, poss wrong spark plugs have been used too! just needs an advancement of the dist cap and she's good to go! lol
mooseman2468 2 years ago
I got it on film. COOL! :P nice vid.
ShowstoppingLegend 2 years ago 4
0000 scary stuff
MatthewPalmer1992 2 years ago
It's a Compressor Stall i think !?
bmnnbmnn 3 years ago
can you explain what that is please?
TheREALHIPNOTIC 3 years ago
It's a Brakedown in the Airflow in a turbine engine.
When the compressor blade stall are no longer available to force the air through engine from front to rear.
The air in the middle of the enigne can escape explosively
From fornt and back simultaneously
bmnnbmnn 3 years ago
haha you saw that other youtube movie xD
sudderklap 2 years ago
lol, yes :P
I couldent find anything good on Wikipedia xD
bmnnbmnn 2 years ago
hahahaahah xD
np
the problem is that i can t explain it, while i am a pilot student :S
sudderklap 2 years ago
and your explanation sounds better than " play the pt 2of 3 turbofan jet enginefailure recognition"lol. it was good of you to respond.
bill44445 2 years ago
Haha :D
Thanks ;-)
bmnnbmnn 2 years ago
did it catch on fire at one point?
nadroj53 3 years ago
lol its Kalita airways, a transportplane but that plane crasched some months ago during take off from the belgium airport Zaventem! And e few weeks later the the sister plane of this one also in US (but dont know where)
delijn57th 3 years ago
no its not kalita airways... its Iberia...
Clubhouse729 3 years ago
you are correct! i was to fast, it has the same colors but not the big B on the tail. lol sorry my mistake
delijn57th 3 years ago
yeah its okay... everybody makes mistake, hey, do you have flight simulator gold?
Clubhouse729 3 years ago
no sorry i havent, i am just a plane spotter here in belgium :s
delijn57th 3 years ago
ahh.. bt im even a student, 14 yrs old.. im a filipino... bt eager to take up for pilot.. try fight simulator, it's nice...
Clubhouse729 3 years ago
Amazing how many Pilots are here!!
madvicky1975 3 years ago
i got it on film cool lol
LP1995XL 3 years ago
hahaha thats funny i was bout to post the same comment
Jacob121416 3 years ago 2
I think it was a tertiary disk placement on a bifocal protolinear subcarbine, malfunctioning in the tachioneucleic transconverter that caused an eruption of bullshit speculation in the comments of this YouTube video.
MurnoGladst 3 years ago 6
AMAZING COMMENT!!!
mogli66 3 years ago
surge
navafsar 3 years ago
0:03
"But I be done seen 'bout ev'rything...When I see a elepha-OHH SHIT!!!"
Biscuitchris7again 3 years ago
compressor stall or birdstrike...
trilomann 3 years ago
looks like he took a bird up the engine
BigBaze27 3 years ago
i got it on film........coool
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Cruise2enjoy 3 years ago
looks like a birdstrike
btdt88 3 years ago
I think bird flew into engine
fhonsa 3 years ago
great footage!
ChrisPlugged 3 years ago
so thats what happens when you dont connect the jimbermakihuggle to the flipomomtopoter!!! it all makes sense!!
skatetolive101 3 years ago
Monty Python
themightyjfox 3 years ago
1 in a million chance lucky
porkypker27 3 years ago
That's a one in a million film shot, and you got it.
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Iberia is a terrible bad Airline!
DongMuang 3 years ago
no offense to anyother country but here in America we have to keep ours inspected
jk it seems that the FAA dosent care they need better staffing some experienced pilots
jesusrulesflight 3 years ago
Una mierda para ti!! Capullo
jairenx 3 years ago
DongMuang, shit for you!! jeje.
jairenx 3 years ago
About the Air France crash, the pilots had seconds to decide and I don't think they were aware of the fact that their fuel tank was leaking and caused a huge fire. They probably thought it was an engine fire which is a different case that, if handleded correctly (which is what they were trying to do by taking off), would cause no problem. Unfortunately, the fire was so severe that it burned their vertical stablelizer on the left wing (or right I'm not sure) so they couldn't control the aircraft.
iremmeber 3 years ago
cool
hotsauce297 3 years ago
So that's Iberia doesn't fly 747s anymore....hmmm...
PilotOfNorway91 3 years ago 2
what airport was that at
familyguyfreak2 3 years ago
i think its KORD
rc37 3 years ago
o fire, i got it on film
cool
hahahahahah fuken classic
polak4lyf 3 years ago 3
HAHAHA, LMAO. xD +1.
PilotOfNorway91 3 years ago
o fire, i got it on film
cool
hahahahahah fuken classic
polak4lyf 3 years ago
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its not engine number 1, but number 4.
you count for right to left
ccasander 3 years ago
Definitely false. It is number 1 you count from left to right... Google for some cockpits and you will see it...
edelweiss0 3 years ago
no, from left to right
787Flier 3 years ago
are you stupid? From left to right!!!! It was no. 1
thefluffyelephant 3 years ago
dude u count from left to right and you start them up from right to left.
gezelle007 3 years ago
in four engined aircraft's, pilots may decide which to start. Number 1 and number 4, may start simultaneously, and 2 with 3. In twin aircraft's, pilots also do the same by either left-right, or right-left. In the sim, I always in Twin engined planes do left-right, but there is no rule for it. (I may be mistaken, so correct me if I'm wrong)
But what its worth, if you start 1 and 2 or 3 and 4, you'll have to much power on one side, and may turn the plane standing still.
PilotOfNorway91 3 years ago
u know i think your right- in big planes you might have to muchpower if you start up both engines on one side- but i do think its its always startup from right to left because the foottraffic from the ground crews always work on the left side(the gates) and baggage is always handled first.
gezelle007 3 years ago
kk...you're right too about the left side thing, but It's my habit, I may be wrong when I get into pilot school.
PilotOfNorway91 3 years ago
There is no way that two engines idling on one wing have enough power to turn the plane standing still. It is normal procedures to start the engines in order. Ie: 4, 3, 2, 1.
Blackevo9 3 years ago
There are so many point of views...if we have a opinion maybe we should consider contacting the FAA or CAA of your current country.
PilotOfNorway91 3 years ago
Wen they startup they aren't exactly in idle. They go back to idle about a sec after startup.
rcheliboy 3 years ago
correct. starting a commercial engine you want to keep your N1 low and your N2 High for startups. you push throttle to about 35% at 21% N1 you turn fuel master on. at 29% N1 you move throttle (For that perticular engine) back to idle. Or else u would start turning (Or suck in your usher)
NorthWestSimulations 3 years ago
Your talking fucking shit mate. On start up you dont touch the throttles, its an automatic cycle depending on aircraft type.
Sterlingjob 3 years ago
stfu. I got my PPL. What do you have? Look at some of my vids. Theres a PPL test review book on my computer desk!
NorthWestSimulations 3 years ago
Erm im an engineer and ive never heard so much crap. YOU DONT TOUCH THE THROTTLES ON START, thats why they have an IDLE detent
Sterlingjob 3 years ago
I think they are getting confused with 'ensure levers at idle' in case the cleaners had pushed 'em forward ;-)
nickthesafe 2 years ago
Ive never tried starting an engine with levers forward! Not sure what would happen!
Sterlingjob 2 years ago
Give it a go ;-)... The management systems won't let you. I'm building a controller myself for one of my own engines - it won't switch in the starters unless throttle at idle and then no fuel until N1 at light off speed - anything more will mean hot start and cooked engine.
nickthesafe 2 years ago
what the fuck does PPL have to do with jet engines on a commercial jet? shut up and listen, it is in the startup checklist to set the throttles at idle, fuel on depends on engine type and is at a specific N2% (usually 15-17%), not N1. N1 is near 0-4% at that time
ATHGT 3 years ago
nothin more annoying than all the video game pilots thinking they know all about flying a boeing. oh and btw...ppl != atpl, you should know that but i doubt you have a ppl...smartasses like you get kicked out of the plane after takeoff by responsible FIs. :)
dcf77 3 years ago
on 'commercial engines' (btw what is a commerical engine? I've never heard of that phrase in all my years in aviation) there are idle detents - you don't touch throttles when starting engines.
pineappleboy1 3 years ago
hmm. then in fsx why do they start 1, 4, 2, 3?
mhcblues22 3 years ago
So that it's equally powered. Starting 1, on the left wing first, then 4 on the right wing to counteract the turning tendancy caused by more power on one side, then 2, because you started on the left so you go on sequence, and obviously 3 is the only one left.
PuffMac 3 years ago
you count from the pilot's point of view.
weipeiwu2000 3 years ago
what is that thing at the end of the clip moving really fast towards the plane ???
simsonmotorader 3 years ago
"i caught it on tape".
"kewl"
>_> pfft but lol xD
PnoiDud3 3 years ago
Where is the airport of the video?
Tovkal 4 years ago
Uhhh, actually, that was more consistant with a compressor stall from what I can see. Unlikeley it was because of Fuel/Air ratio as Pkay said.
Most large carriers outline in their SOP's
the aircraft may only abort T/O if airspeed is below V1.
The aircraft takes much too long to slow after
the V1 callout; blown tires would be the least of your worries. Although in some cases, abort is possible past V1, every good pilot knows it is not safe, with such a large aircraft, SOP's or not.
kerbanoba 4 years ago
its to rich
psp310 4 years ago
its called a jet turbine engine..there not such thing as rich or lean
fatboy143 4 years ago
if there's too much or too little fuel being put in in can be rich or lean
pkay098 4 years ago
"Too much or too little fuel" = greater or less speed.
stevo1153 3 years ago
It's actually called a turbofan. A high-bypass tubofan.
mxracerxxx157 4 years ago
either sucked in debris or threw a blade
ar15expert 4 years ago
Not necesarrily. You can still abort safely at V1. Instead of calling for "rotate", you call for abort, you blow a few tires, but it's better than taking off the ground with a serious engine problem.
Tzutzuna 4 years ago
Indeed. Thats what V1 is.. the point of no return, past V1 you've not got enough runway to stop, and you have to rotate.
I insist to this day that the Air France Concord crash could have been prevented had the pilot not rotated. He may have overrun the end of the runway, but that's still far safer than rotating with that situation.
joeslifeyork 4 years ago
Unfortunately, it's very hard to make your argument. It's been statistically proven that aborting after V1 is more dangerous then continuing to fly. Your argument is the as someone saying seatbelts are not safe when someone cant get out of a burning car. There are ALWAYS exceptions but there is not enough time for the pilot to get all the available information. He needs to make the choice hes been trained to make.
IFlyEm35 4 years ago
TZU,
There isnt any engine malfunction that a pilot should abort for after V1. That's why there is a V1 callout and why the pilot takes his hand off the thrust levers at V1.
IFlyEm35 4 years ago
wrong.
V1 isn't called 'the point of no return' for no nothing
snakeyjakehall 2 years ago
of course
CO200M 2 years ago
Capitan a Copiloto: Javier joder, que el Boeing se ha tirado un petardo....
Copiloto a Capitan: Joder mi capitan, no debio comerse usted esa Paella Valenciana...
atenco01 4 years ago
Most likely this plane's engine was stopped by the taliban. They are sneaky little bass turds.
DarkerDivinity 4 years ago 5
lol at the end he is like i got it on film, cool!
anzon3 4 years ago 3
"we got it on fil.... COOL!!!" nice
sloppypoppy12 4 years ago 2
lol the landing wasnt real,it was flight sim.?
jayhelldee 4 years ago
nah its real!
kosovar4life 4 years ago
lmfao.... i got it on film.. COOL!!!
polak4lyf 4 years ago
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The nose was already in the air, wheels off the ground. They had to go up.
dieudonneMC 4 years ago
Are you blind? They haven't even used a tenth the runway yet...
Ebs752 4 years ago
Beautiful rejected takeoff... it's a good thing they caught it so early.
Liquiddoom 4 years ago
I'm sure the Fire bell, and the red master caution light, and a Red ECIAS message saying FIRE ENG 1, a red start lever, and fire handle HELPED! :D
bphendri 3 years ago
LOL i got it on film COOOL! xD
rama767 4 years ago
*lol
ChrisRenucci 4 years ago