Thanks for making this video! However I wish you hadn't skipped over the actual process of shooting a film.The point between the film going from one roll to the other was edited out!
I bought one of these today at a yard sale for 5.00. It came with all its stuff but I was dissapointed to find out that the film had been used and developped. Any ideas where i can get a projector cheap?
Thank you for posting this video, My friend just got a camera just like this from his grandparents still in the box! Included was that nice light attachment and a new projector. Now I know how to use it!!!! Thank you
Hi, I'm thinking of getting a brownie and starting to shoot some movies, however, I still have some questions. After the film is shot and used up, do you have to devolop it, or can you just run it through a prejector?
I have a Bell and Howell Zoomatic don't know how the hell to load it and don't know anything about film stocks like when you buy it does it come with two?
i have a camera almost exactly like the one you're showing in this video i picked up yesterday at an antique mall for $15. thanks for helping out film noobs like myself!
great vid. way helpfull. i was wondering if u know where i can purchase film for this movie camera? i hav one aswell n really want to use it for a little indie flick. just need film. thanks
Hi, Kerry! This is a great demonstration video, and I actually found a Brownie exactly like yours at an antique mall. It still works great, and I even made movies with it using some old Kodachrome film. However, I heard that you can use Ektachrome 100D as a good substitute, but is this film more suitable for indoor movies, outdoor movies, or both?
My mom's Brownie was newer and had a plastic crank instead. I think my brother still has it. I posted some home movie vids made with it from the 60s on my wife's channel owlydog. I remember her changing over to side two in a dark room, she could do it in the dark. And don't forget those blinding very bright four photoflood LIGHT BARS!
Those light bars with 2 or 4 huge lamps that were 500w each (??-can't remember exactly) were awful. You needed that much light. If you look at old home movies, you'll see everyone squinting at the camera in indoor scenes.
I received a response from Dwayne's Photo yesterday, but they said that since the film is from prior to 1972, they wouldn't be able to help (different chemicals). They referred me to Film Rescue International. I got a reply from them this afternoon. They said that there is only a 60% chance that something recognizable could be extracted from the film, but only in black and white, since the chemicals are no longer available.
HI. Thanks for your email. We are in the final days of having Kodachrome developed as Kodak has now discontinued it. If you Google "Dwayne's Photo", they should be able to help you. They are THE last photolab in US developing this film. If I can remember the "K-10.." is the old, old Kodachrome. I used it back in 1962. When you contact Dwayne's, give them all those numbers. They should know. Its now expensive to develop - even if its blank. Good Luck - let me know!
My wife inherited her dad's old Brownie Double-8 Spool Load movie camera, and there is still film in it. It has to have been in there for at least 30 years. Is there any chance that it could still be developed?? If so, how can I determine whether or not it is Kodachrome film? The only identification on the reel is "R-140", and on the film leader, the string "K-I 0-654060603".
hey Kerry...actually there are a LOT of labs that will process 8mm movie film. It's just that Dwayne's Photo is the last place that will process Kodachrome film. But there are plenty of other labs that will process other kinds of 8mm, Super-8, and 16mm film. Just look online. There's one place in Hollywood, California, called "Spectra Film and Video" and they sell all kinds of movie film and they develop it too. I just happen to like Dwayne's Photo though.
I took the old film and projected it while I shot the image with a digital video camera. I then plugged the digital video camera into my computer and transferred it onto my hard drive with the rest of this video.
Ive been collecting 8 mm films for the last 5 years. Now I have 100 films in the fridge and Im still collecting. 8mm film is a realy fascinating format.
Basically, you can only shoot up to 30 secs max. (You can shoot 10, 18, 22 or whatever up to about 30.) I doubt you could wind and shoot at the same time. During the mid-1960s is when I remember the battery drive cameras coming out and then you could shoot the whole roll at once if you wanted & not restricted to the length of one wind.
hey quick question. please reply back to me, sir. i was wondering about something very important. do you have to load the film in complete darkness so you dont ruin the film??! because i know you made a demostration about it, but you did it in light. idk if that would mean that your allowed to load the film in light, or you just doing this and you lost film in the process. please get back to me.
Good question. You can load 8mm film in daylight. A bright sandy beach might be a bit much but regular daylight was OK. I always tried to at least have my back to the sun or be in the shade. Kodak & others actually had an extra couple feet on the outside of the roll that they knew would be light-struck but they would cut it off before they returned it to you. (If you look closely at many home movies you might see a few seconds where the picture is washed out.) I used old film so it didnt matter
Hey, in case you didn't know about this, this may be one of the most helpful things you can have as a true filmmaker. They even have an application for this that you can put on your iPhone if you have one [Replace the "(dot)" with an actual "."]:
OMG! I'm a 23 year old film director. I was in a Vintage shop with my girlfriend and saw the Brownie 1 sitting on a shelf. I bought it for $15 and I didn't know ANYTHING about it. So I began buying things for it and taught myself about it, but not until this video have I heard anything about double 8mm, and I would like to thank you for teaching this digital baby a little more about the backbone and history of the medium
I was going to ask you too...have you tried shooting 100D film in this camera? It's 100 ISO, so I'm guessing that it would totally overexpose it since I think these cameras had a pretty slow shutter speed. My Bolex K2 has a variable shutter so I can use pretty much any film with it. But I just tried using 100D with my Kodak Cine 8. Do you think anything will come out or will it be just completely overexposed?
Actually, I have not shot any film in my Brownie for 40 years! Old exposure meters used to have a movie setting on them for 8,16& 24 fps etc. If I recall, you can use 1/30th sec as your shutter speed with 100 ISO film and that will give you the correct f/stop. Given that, you should have no difficulty using that film in an older camera.
...actually, I have a bunch of 8mm cameras. I have a Kodak Cine 8, which was one of the first cameras to use double-eight film. I think it's from the late 1930s or early 1940s. It's in great condition and it still works pretty good, but it's more complicated and a little harder to load than the other cameras. I just tried to use 100D film with it, hopefully I didn't overexpose the film.
Oh yeah, definitely. I love working with film. It's just a lot more fun. I have an 8 megapixel digital camera, but honestly I hardly ever even use it anymore. I mostly just use it for quick snapshots when I'm out with friends. But for "real" photography, especially when I take landscape photos, I just prefer using film. And there's something so cool about using a real metal, mechanical camera. I like the sound of the shutter for one thing!
So true. Digital is OK, but I love the feeling of watching a flickering old image on a projector. It gives it more of a real home movie feeling to it. Digital can look ok, but you got to love the grainy, nostalgic feel of an 8mm home movie!
And the good news is that the new Ektachrome 100D film WILL work in older 8mm cameras! I was afraid that it might get overexposed because of the slow shutter speed, but I just shot a roll in my Kodak Cine 8 camera (it's from the 1930s!) and it turned out fine! I shot it outside in the afternoon, on a clear sunny day too. So apparently you can use it with ANY 8mm camera as long as it's not SUPER bright outside.
...and I just noticed that ALL of my comments were given a thumbs-down. That's why I disabled comment voting on most of my videos, because of all the trolls. Probably someone didn't like what I said about digital cameras (even though it's true).
Very interesting! Yeah, okay, you've got me...I was BORN in 1977! But I HAVE actually used double-eight cameras. In fact, I've used both the 8mm cameras in my videos, the Bolex K2 and the Brownie camera. I just order the film from Dwayne's Photo and send it back there to get developed. I've got a projector too! I think the Brownie is the easiest 8mm camera to load.
My aunt had this camera. Her movies would always contain her eye in the middle of the 3 minute reel and at the end. This eye was my aunt looking at the footage counter located just under the lens.
Finding a good lab IS difficult! I never had a problem with film fogging. I never loaded a camera in direct sunlight or with a light directly overhead. As for the film in this demonstration, it was nothing that I was using so it didn't matter.
wow! great demo Kerry I had a brownie back in the 70's must have been a different model though, don't remember flipping the film over. I really got excited when you took that Fairchild out at the end. god, I wish i had one of those!
Just bought one on ebay with its original box, receipt, and film. Looks as though it hasn't been used. Great find.
Lorenzo1449 1 month ago
Thanks for making this video! However I wish you hadn't skipped over the actual process of shooting a film.The point between the film going from one roll to the other was edited out!
SugarBean11 2 months ago
I bought one of these today at a yard sale for 5.00. It came with all its stuff but I was dissapointed to find out that the film had been used and developped. Any ideas where i can get a projector cheap?
LeJamesBA 4 months ago
Thank you for posting this video, My friend just got a camera just like this from his grandparents still in the box! Included was that nice light attachment and a new projector. Now I know how to use it!!!! Thank you
adamspeople 6 months ago
You and the camera are epic. I own one too. you should check out my video when i review this camera and a bunch of other old time cameras
Filmodyssey54 7 months ago
Hi, I'm thinking of getting a brownie and starting to shoot some movies, however, I still have some questions. After the film is shot and used up, do you have to devolop it, or can you just run it through a prejector?
CommanderC00L558 9 months ago
It has probably been asked before, but I assume you had to load the film in complete darkness?
AGrandt 9 months ago
I have a Bell and Howell Zoomatic don't know how the hell to load it and don't know anything about film stocks like when you buy it does it come with two?
the13thchild33 10 months ago
Hi i'll like to know if $60 is a fair price to pay for one of these. Thank you
TheWiiviewsnet 11 months ago
i have a camera almost exactly like the one you're showing in this video i picked up yesterday at an antique mall for $15. thanks for helping out film noobs like myself!
Ziplock74 1 year ago
great vid. way helpfull. i was wondering if u know where i can purchase film for this movie camera? i hav one aswell n really want to use it for a little indie flick. just need film. thanks
shawnyslick 1 year ago
Hi, Kerry! This is a great demonstration video, and I actually found a Brownie exactly like yours at an antique mall. It still works great, and I even made movies with it using some old Kodachrome film. However, I heard that you can use Ektachrome 100D as a good substitute, but is this film more suitable for indoor movies, outdoor movies, or both?
moneyman1934 2 years ago
LOL your still chubby, cool video! A friend of mine had one of those we used to take it to concerts but too bad NO SOUND though.
mrgoodvibrations 2 years ago
i got CINE-KODAK EIGHT model 20 .,just got it today.looks really cool.nice video,Thank you.
romanich12 2 years ago
My mom's Brownie was newer and had a plastic crank instead. I think my brother still has it. I posted some home movie vids made with it from the 60s on my wife's channel owlydog. I remember her changing over to side two in a dark room, she could do it in the dark. And don't forget those blinding very bright four photoflood LIGHT BARS!
umajunkcollector 2 years ago
Those light bars with 2 or 4 huge lamps that were 500w each (??-can't remember exactly) were awful. You needed that much light. If you look at old home movies, you'll see everyone squinting at the camera in indoor scenes.
KKD1247 2 years ago 2
Hello again, Kerry.
I received a response from Dwayne's Photo yesterday, but they said that since the film is from prior to 1972, they wouldn't be able to help (different chemicals). They referred me to Film Rescue International. I got a reply from them this afternoon. They said that there is only a 60% chance that something recognizable could be extracted from the film, but only in black and white, since the chemicals are no longer available.
I'll let you know if we send it in...
flubber777 2 years ago
HI. Thanks for your email. We are in the final days of having Kodachrome developed as Kodak has now discontinued it. If you Google "Dwayne's Photo", they should be able to help you. They are THE last photolab in US developing this film. If I can remember the "K-10.." is the old, old Kodachrome. I used it back in 1962. When you contact Dwayne's, give them all those numbers. They should know. Its now expensive to develop - even if its blank. Good Luck - let me know!
KKD1247 2 years ago
Great video, Kerry!
My wife inherited her dad's old Brownie Double-8 Spool Load movie camera, and there is still film in it. It has to have been in there for at least 30 years. Is there any chance that it could still be developed?? If so, how can I determine whether or not it is Kodachrome film? The only identification on the reel is "R-140", and on the film leader, the string "K-I 0-654060603".
Thanks for any help that you can provide!
flubber777 2 years ago
1961?
i thought color film was invented in 1963.
i bought a projector at a garage sale and i got to see my dad coming home from the hospital after being born in 1964 and even that was in color.
i got the kodak eight-33 fim projector. it's a great projector.
mrfourtysevenman 2 years ago
Nope - Kodachrome color movie film was invented in 1935.
KKD1247 2 years ago
@mrfourtysevenman That's Polaroid color film.
BTVProductions1982 1 year ago
@mrfourtysevenman and i have a christmas film shot in 1960 in colour on a Brownie.
hensca 1 year ago
Does Kodak still process film like that?
BigJimW 3 years ago
Kodak does not. However, Dwayne's Photo is about the last lab in the USA that does. You can easily find them on the web.
KKD1247 3 years ago
hey Kerry...actually there are a LOT of labs that will process 8mm movie film. It's just that Dwayne's Photo is the last place that will process Kodachrome film. But there are plenty of other labs that will process other kinds of 8mm, Super-8, and 16mm film. Just look online. There's one place in Hollywood, California, called "Spectra Film and Video" and they sell all kinds of movie film and they develop it too. I just happen to like Dwayne's Photo though.
ct92404 2 years ago
how were you able to upload the video of you from the 60's onto your computer?
kyletheoctopus 3 years ago
I took the old film and projected it while I shot the image with a digital video camera. I then plugged the digital video camera into my computer and transferred it onto my hard drive with the rest of this video.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Ive been collecting 8 mm films for the last 5 years. Now I have 100 films in the fridge and Im still collecting. 8mm film is a realy fascinating format.
thorir30 3 years ago
So can I only shoot in 30 second increments? or can i wind while rolling? Thanks!
shlewu22 3 years ago
Basically, you can only shoot up to 30 secs max. (You can shoot 10, 18, 22 or whatever up to about 30.) I doubt you could wind and shoot at the same time. During the mid-1960s is when I remember the battery drive cameras coming out and then you could shoot the whole roll at once if you wanted & not restricted to the length of one wind.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Is it possible to buy brand-new double 8mm film? And can you still get the film developed?
I just bought one of these old cameras and I'm wondering about it.
ForgetfulCollector 3 years ago
Yes you can. Ektachrome Double 8mm is still available. Dwayne's Photo can develop it for you.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Thanks!
ForgetfulCollector 3 years ago
hey quick question. please reply back to me, sir. i was wondering about something very important. do you have to load the film in complete darkness so you dont ruin the film??! because i know you made a demostration about it, but you did it in light. idk if that would mean that your allowed to load the film in light, or you just doing this and you lost film in the process. please get back to me.
thank you:)
kevinKLITZ 3 years ago
Good question. You can load 8mm film in daylight. A bright sandy beach might be a bit much but regular daylight was OK. I always tried to at least have my back to the sun or be in the shade. Kodak & others actually had an extra couple feet on the outside of the roll that they knew would be light-struck but they would cut it off before they returned it to you. (If you look closely at many home movies you might see a few seconds where the picture is washed out.) I used old film so it didnt matter
KKD1247 3 years ago
What is the FPS on this camera?
WhiteWoodEnt 3 years ago
16 fps only
KKD1247 3 years ago
Hey, in case you didn't know about this, this may be one of the most helpful things you can have as a true filmmaker. They even have an application for this that you can put on your iPhone if you have one [Replace the "(dot)" with an actual "."]:
kodak(dot)com/US/plugins/flash/en/motion/filmCalculator.swf
This is basically how I know that the 25ft of film I bough is going to last me a good 4 mins.
WhiteWoodEnt 3 years ago
Oh yeah, and YouTube put a space in the URL after the word 'flash'. Get rid of it or the URL won't work.
WhiteWoodEnt 3 years ago
Right...it will be 50' when done. I tried it and it works! So thats why you wanted to know the fps of this camera.
KKD1247 3 years ago
OMG! I'm a 23 year old film director. I was in a Vintage shop with my girlfriend and saw the Brownie 1 sitting on a shelf. I bought it for $15 and I didn't know ANYTHING about it. So I began buying things for it and taught myself about it, but not until this video have I heard anything about double 8mm, and I would like to thank you for teaching this digital baby a little more about the backbone and history of the medium
WhiteWoodEnt 3 years ago
Perfect as always!
thorir88 3 years ago
I was going to ask you too...have you tried shooting 100D film in this camera? It's 100 ISO, so I'm guessing that it would totally overexpose it since I think these cameras had a pretty slow shutter speed. My Bolex K2 has a variable shutter so I can use pretty much any film with it. But I just tried using 100D with my Kodak Cine 8. Do you think anything will come out or will it be just completely overexposed?
ct92404 3 years ago
Actually, I have not shot any film in my Brownie for 40 years! Old exposure meters used to have a movie setting on them for 8,16& 24 fps etc. If I recall, you can use 1/30th sec as your shutter speed with 100 ISO film and that will give you the correct f/stop. Given that, you should have no difficulty using that film in an older camera.
KKD1247 3 years ago
...actually, I have a bunch of 8mm cameras. I have a Kodak Cine 8, which was one of the first cameras to use double-eight film. I think it's from the late 1930s or early 1940s. It's in great condition and it still works pretty good, but it's more complicated and a little harder to load than the other cameras. I just tried to use 100D film with it, hopefully I didn't overexpose the film.
ct92404 3 years ago
Hi Chris. You ARE one of the exceptions. I'm so glad you have an interest working with film. Too bad so many people ignore the medium.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Oh yeah, definitely. I love working with film. It's just a lot more fun. I have an 8 megapixel digital camera, but honestly I hardly ever even use it anymore. I mostly just use it for quick snapshots when I'm out with friends. But for "real" photography, especially when I take landscape photos, I just prefer using film. And there's something so cool about using a real metal, mechanical camera. I like the sound of the shutter for one thing!
ct92404 3 years ago
So true. Digital is OK, but I love the feeling of watching a flickering old image on a projector. It gives it more of a real home movie feeling to it. Digital can look ok, but you got to love the grainy, nostalgic feel of an 8mm home movie!
MaxHard9000 3 years ago 3
And the good news is that the new Ektachrome 100D film WILL work in older 8mm cameras! I was afraid that it might get overexposed because of the slow shutter speed, but I just shot a roll in my Kodak Cine 8 camera (it's from the 1930s!) and it turned out fine! I shot it outside in the afternoon, on a clear sunny day too. So apparently you can use it with ANY 8mm camera as long as it's not SUPER bright outside.
ct92404 3 years ago
...and I just noticed that ALL of my comments were given a thumbs-down. That's why I disabled comment voting on most of my videos, because of all the trolls. Probably someone didn't like what I said about digital cameras (even though it's true).
ct92404 3 years ago
Very interesting! Yeah, okay, you've got me...I was BORN in 1977! But I HAVE actually used double-eight cameras. In fact, I've used both the 8mm cameras in my videos, the Bolex K2 and the Brownie camera. I just order the film from Dwayne's Photo and send it back there to get developed. I've got a projector too! I think the Brownie is the easiest 8mm camera to load.
ct92404 3 years ago
My aunt had this camera. Her movies would always contain her eye in the middle of the 3 minute reel and at the end. This eye was my aunt looking at the footage counter located just under the lens.
Mark1976 3 years ago
cant wait to see the Fairchild.
jefferyb304 3 years ago
ah,its hard to find a good processig place nowdays,they dont make them like they used to :)
...isnt there a problem exposing most of the film to the light?
hartnell114 3 years ago
Finding a good lab IS difficult! I never had a problem with film fogging. I never loaded a camera in direct sunlight or with a light directly overhead. As for the film in this demonstration, it was nothing that I was using so it didn't matter.
KKD1247 3 years ago
To think, back than that was considered WOW! Material lol.
5/5 nice kerry ;)
iPodGenious 3 years ago
wow! great demo Kerry I had a brownie back in the 70's must have been a different model though, don't remember flipping the film over. I really got excited when you took that Fairchild out at the end. god, I wish i had one of those!
BipolarPics 3 years ago