@safwan321 he is a genius, who observes stuff very well and can make comedy out of the most darkest of subjects, people like you just dont have the mental capacity to understand his intelligent jokes.
I find it hard to laugh at this sort of thing. My grandparents fought in the war and I've heard some pretty unbelievable stories. But sometimes it can get to be a bit too much. "For fucks sake grandad we are trying to have Christmas dinner! Nobody cares how many Jews you killed!"
For the last 10 years of his life Nietzsche was brain dead, during that time he was cared for by his sister who was an anti-Semitic of the far-right, and she arranged, reorganised and constructed Nietzsche work in support of that. But when reading Nietzsche it is immediately obvious this isn't the case. Hitler used Nietzsche, as he used democracy. Hitler’s ideas were a lot more similar to Christianity than to Nietzsche’s, (who only liked the Jewish part of the bible)
Just today at the bar I was telling a friend how I pity Nietzsche, his 3 most quoted thingies are completely taken out of context.
1. "Übermensch" being used by Nazis to justify their philosophical views
2. The stuff about not forgetting the whip when going to women (people think he says to take a whip with you when going to women, actually he is warning about women having a whip)
3. "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" taken literally ("What if it paralyzes you, I'm so smart, herpderp")
its funny after the also called Holocaust only Jews where able to create a state Gypsies still no nation yet maybe in another Holocaust hahahahahahahahah
there was noo such thing in hitlers mind as to kill all the fucking jews..the gassings are the biggest fraud of the past century and still going on...this fucking comedian should know it or im missing some sarcasm.
@Zendrig ok its just that this lie has gone too far with never ending wars cause of it..every "dictator"is compared to hitler cause they lied about the 6mill ghosts..
@sheyon1000 I have no idea what you're talking about. Your view of history is pretty twisted and I wonder who's to blame for that. Or you're just a troll. In which case I'm the one to blame.
@Zendrig Look it doesnt matter at the end..truth or not the imporatnat thing is that it feels right and good or funny in this case..Feel good society,what to expect.
Don't get me wrong I would not want that to happen, I'm not an anti-Semite, but I'm not anti-Hitlerite either, in my humble opinion I understand Hitler, he felt horrible I know how people are in this condition. Hitler was autistic, but anti-Semitism and Nazism gave him the confidence to lie and tell truths to make himself praised, this isn't a rational conception but if his dream came true I admire him for the effort he used to set a nation its freedom.
Hitler could've been a nihilist, if existence is useless then the existence of death is useless. However I studied Hitler, he was an artist-wannabe, and failed entry into an art school, what a shame! He had this psychology that the Jews were not alone a religion but to him a race, and the "disease" of Jews is the "corruption" of Germany for some reason. What I don't understand is the holocaust, Hitler could've burned all the texts and killed more Jews if he was strong in his faith and pride.
Nietzsce loved power, hated compassion, and believed the French Revolution was vindicated solely by the fact that Napoleon rose to power as a result. Say what you want about his contributions to philosophy, he was a HORRIBLE man. No morally sane person should look up to his contemptuous and arrogant remarks on human beings, he would rather deride humanity instead of help it. What a sorry excuse for a human being. Read Russell or someone less inhuman if your really serious about philosophy.
@LetsStayAtADistance Really Russels missunderstod Nietzsche and also read him in cases way to literal.
Most people he knew Nietzsche in real life describe a very quiet gentleman. He hade good female friends(something I think would chock missunderstanding Russels)
Now what arrogant remarks ? He argued that each human being should form there own values and morality and there own meaning to life shape there own reality after there own will.What is so bad ?
@LetsStayAtADistance P 2 Moraly sane person ? Morality is subjective . Nietzsche did not like moralisers or people who where trying to push there morals as truth.
And to your knowlage he even did charitable works.
He did not like the Christian morality which he considerd slave morality he argued that people should embrace there inner lusts and there humanity.
Now I do not agree with everything he wrote. But as existentialist I agree with many of his basic ideas.
@Eopyk Nietzsche's biggest gripe with christianity was that its moral code was hypocritical and hollow, the terms of salvation in christianity allow christians to behave in the most reprehensible ways, and commit awful acts, only to be forgiven, and absolved by reciting a prayer, he argued that people should be good simply for the sake of being good, and that the reward from doing the right thing is the satisfaction received from having done the right thing.
@mikeylikesit2675 Yeah he wanted people to think for themselves and form there own morals and values and live there after. Just a bit sad too see that he is still so basicly missunderstod by so many
Fucking lowbrow Ricky Gervais! Dragging Nietzsche through the mud by having him have a conversation with Adolf Hitler. Hey Ricky, you rat bastard, Nietzsche went insane in 1889, before Hitler was even born. In fact, after Nietzsche's complete mental collapse he wrote his friend Overbeck: "Although you have...demonstrated little faith in my ability to pay, I yet hope to demonstrate I am somebody who pays his debts--for example, to you. I am having all anti-Semites shot." So fuck off Ricky!
@fntime It's your subjective opinion. If you don't like Gervais, fine. But he must be important enough for you to type his name in and watch his comedic sketches. That considered, if you just came to this video to troll people who like his videos, then that begs the question on just how meaningless your life truly is.
@fntime Is there anything you intend on gaining by spewing your subjective thoughts in the manner as if it were law? If not, I'm not going to waste my time with you.
nietzche would probably have more sympathy for the nazis who he influenced than he would for the hippies and beats of the sixties who appropriated his ideas or the frankfurt school who interpreted his philosophy as justification for their destruction of western culture. FN was an anti semite before he died
Nietzsche criticized his sister for marrying an anti-semite (she's the one who actually edited his work and added the anti-semitic elements) and spoke admiringly of jewish people, saying that centuries of persecution had turned them into the hardiest people of europe. at a time when everyone from dostoevsky to edgar allen poe described jews as sneaky and greedy, that's pretty fucking tolerant. his writings were so ambiguous that you could use them as justification for anything.
@brodythompson1 its true his sister distorted his writing to be pro nationalist, he was anti-nationalism you see. and its true about his admiration for jews, and their will to power and self determination, he despised his fellow germans for being weak, hitler wanted germans to act more like jews by becoming the master of their own racial destiny like jews are. Anyway, before he died N wrote lots of very anti-semetic stuff that has nothing to do with his sister.
@ThomasRowsell Saying that there was no connection between Nietzsche and Hitler is tenuous. If a person believes that they are Superman and that everyone else is a waste of human flesh, then it is a good chance that this Superman person will kill the waste if he gets power. Nietzsche loved Napoleon. Hitler is Napoleon on steroids. Nietzsche was a great thinker, shredding religion. This is what should be studied. However, there is no Zarathrustra. If you believe, you will kill.
@brodythompson1 Obviously U have read Nietzsche well. And believe or not so has Ricky Gervais. By the means of comedy he tells a true story.Yes he is atheist, and I like to stay in the middle. "God is dead". Nietzsche doesn't mean that literally. It's just one of his writings taken out from the context, like so many else.I wrote my Laudatur about " Nietzzsche and the beginning of Existentialism". glad to see that there are smart individuals here. Nietzsche wrote to individuals.
I'm actually a philosophy graduate student at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, so not really an armchair philosopher, no. I will admit I don't focus much on Nietzsche, I'm more of a Hegelian myself. Anyways, grammar has to do with linguistic rules and correct composition of sentences; what you're describing yourself as is a spelling nazi. Grammar and spelling are two different linguistic schools, though usually intertwined.
and a good joke at that.. given the number of interesting comments - it clearly made a lot of people sit up and think. whatever you might think about the content.
Nietzsche was very pro-Semite and very anti-German, especially when he is read in light of his time. Antisemitic sentiment was already the prevailing view in early-20th century Germany, and people see what they want to see when they view art. Several times in his various writings, he criticized the mediocrity and thoughtlessness in German culture while praising the Jews' culture for its ingenuity, individuality, pride, and thought. Nietzsche would have shuttered to hear his name to justify WW2.
oh Ricky seriously? being funny about holocaust and Nietzsche? that is so poor! you better be back in the office making fun about the receptionist. that was funny. cheers
In the Original German Neitzche's word was the Übermensch, which means superman, overman, overhuman, uberman or Above human. So you are very sadly and wholly mistaken. Less armchair philosophy kids please.
he didn't actually mean there were superhumans walking around exactly (not x-men superhuman, but suprahumans, better humans).. There are ofcourse people who have better abilities than others, I'm better at football than a cripple most likely, but it's all relative. The superhuman was a part in all of us if I remember correctly.. Or osme people have that quality to exceed themselves I think. Is this what you meant?
@11133jen Neitzche clearly talked about how morality was created by people of higher position and talked about the extermination of "evil men" by "good men" created a "pettier, meaner" world as opposed to a world in which we let men that society considers evil to live. So in that sense, he would not have supported Hitler, because Adolf created a sense of "good men" (Aryans) exterminating "evil men" (Jews) (When Neitzche says "good" & "evil" he means through the eyes of power which people follow)
@tedwilli9 all;you did was reiterate what we already knew -- that he had a theory about the superman, but it applies to a Christ-complex and idealization, not killing Jews or even that people are better than other people. It had more to do with religious enslavement and the impossibility of living up to a standard such as a Christ.
@tedwilli9 Nietzsche cared very little about people not being able to live up to the standard of christ. For Nietzsche the superman was an individual like Christ or Moses who created new values that helped the individual escape nihlism. The herd needs mythology while the superman can create his own purpose for living.
I cannot fathom the mentality (or absence) of finding the holocaust funny. It is not reality that is absurd, it is we who are most absurd. How easy to make fun of one of the most horrific episodes in history. The humiliation, mental torture and annihilation of 10 million people. Some things can never be spoken of in jest.
Motherfuckin moron... what the fuck he supose to know who is Friedrich Nietzsche ... that fuckin shit cant understand the one single word of the Nietzsche! Fuckin punk!
@IloveUSA1941 well dude, first of all this has nothing to do with lectures or university professors it's just stand-up comedy, so too bad if you don't have any sense of humour and secondly your remarks betray what an odd specimen you must be: "gay looking guy?" "those idiots?" those are the typical remarks of a self-righteous and bigoted reactionary; you'd better look at the comments posted so far and try to learn from them....
Im just curious who is this chubby, gay looking guy lecturing his audience like a professor in university? and what the fuck are those idiots in the seats who paid for this? is this supposed to be what?
@IloveUSA1941 Its Ricky Gervais' way of bringing Nietzsche to a mainstream audience - a so called philosopher who vented his hatred against Christianity with countless vitriolic works such as "Antichrist" & "God is De**" .... Nietzsche died in a mental institution after an 11 year vegetated state which is normally what happens to people of his ilk (just look at pics of Lenin before his death) - Anyway it was the Catholic Church that carried out all the atrocities - Hitler was just a puppet
Gervais is an outspoken atheist too and promotes the (ridiculous) theory of evolution with childrens books and promotes anti Christian sentiment at any possible chance...You can see from his latest pictures and his arrogant abhorrent attitude he is spiritually dying and will also go the way of Lenin, Nietzsche etc...
@DieOrBlink What one thing that Chrrist said would you take issue with? what about this: “You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that?
@tiarnan76 and what reward is their for loving those that hate you? Your so typical its funny. Pulling bible verses out that are completely irrelevant. You say love your enemies? then why are you so quick to call out Rick for being an out spoken atheist? Like i said you are a cookie cutter typical christian.
@tiarnan76 "ridiculous theory of evolution", sir you have to take basic high school biology before making a statement like that.... Literally just about every scientist (including me) understand that evolution (which is only called a theory because science is very humble) is a fact that is as certain as whether or not the Earth revolves around the Sun.... Just to put it in perspective. May I ask your level of education in the subject?
Well actually Nietzsche hated anyone who was anti-Semitic and nationalistic, that's why he broke off his relationship with Wagner (see Nietzsche Contra Wagner), and he was upset with his sister Elizabeth for marrying an anti-Semite. In fact, it was Elizabeth who went back and re-edited he works to try to show he supported National Socialism which he obviously didn't.
it is kinda sad that a name has to die out because of one asshole. why is it that the name Adolf has to die when the name Hiter suffices just fine? overkill n.p.i.
one time i rented a book in the library in middle school about Hitler's life (not referring to him as Adolf) and other kids wouldn't leave me alone to read the entire thing.
adolf hitler reinterpreted and antagonized the jewish people while nietzsche felt sympathy for them... nietzsche and hitler did not share the same ideologies
That's funny, even though Hitler was in no way influenced by Nietzsche. The whole correlation between the two comes from when Nietzsche's sister took his works and tried to pass them off as Nazi propaganda and idealism (after Hitler already had his ideas), at which point Nietzsche metaphorically bitch-slapped his sister via a letter that all but disowns her.
The link between Nietzsche and Nazism is a common misconception. It was Nietzsche's estranged and ambitious sister who took his incomplete writings after his death, and edited them into a form that would appear to support the Nazis.
@jasondelauro While she did do that after his death, she took them while he was still alive and tried to pass them off as support of Nazi ideals, and they were very much completed before he died (being published is a different matter). He even reamed the hell out of his sister for having done that. Also, they weren't so much estranged as in Nietzsche's later years, she was the one who took care of him when his mental health deteriorated.
@TheOneThirteen Are you fucking stupid? There were outbreaks of typhoid through all overcrowded camps! This required a crematoria (in order to burn the bodies, in an attempt to stop the spread of typhus) - do you think individual graves would be dug when so many people died at once!?
I can't believe you would say something as ridiculous as that! The USSR didn't even allow Western authorities to investigate any camps in Soviet territory! You are grade A asinine!
@TheOneThirteen That's nonsense - there is proof of an attempt at systematic extermination of people seen as being unworthy of life.
To claim there are no substantiated claims of gas chamber executions is one thing, to claim there was no attempt at eliminating groups from German society is stupid and incorrect. There were mass executions, of Jewish, Roma, homosexual and handicapped people. Don't be a pawn.
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@mitchmich69 Don't be stupid. There are ten facts... It won't make it a good day tomorrow.
That's like saying 'if you post this comment, you will receive a plentiful harvest' - is this appealling to you?
'post this comment and the rains will arrive' 'post this comment, and your family will be healthy' 'post this comment, and you will increase your capacity to learn about and understand physics' 'post this comment, and your penis is guaranteed to grow by AT LEAST 2 inches!'
in Nietzsche's book ''beyond good and evil'' he clearly mocks ''rabid anti-semites' in germany and states how jewish people are good people. You can disagree with Nietzsche just please dont make up bullshit people!
@TheOneThirteen Okay, not sure if trolling or just incredibly stupid...or just complete and utterly delusional, perhaps as a result of NAZI brainwashing. Tinfoilhat.jpg
@TheOneThirteen Copypasta. At least come up with some sort of original, provocative troll instead of plaguing the comments with some neonazi propaganda that fails miserably to anyone who knows anything about history. (You do realise that there is *video footage* that conclusively shows that a systematic extermination did happen at those *population centres*, right?)
God there are some absolute morons with keyboards & access to the internet. If you must insist on sharing your opinions at least formulate them & express them somewhat cohesively. But in all honesty, just don't bother to begin with, but I know you will because your a block headed.
In Britain philosphy has nothing to do with wars and economics. It's only about how to sound smart and win arguments in the study over crumpets and tea.
atheist : thats good. clever. holocaust believer of 6 million : WTF? this guy should learn more about the history. gosh people still believe that 6 million jews were killed by orders of Adolf Hitler? you dont believe in religion, then why dont you fucking wake up from the holocaust religion?
That 6 million figure has quite an interesting history. Jews, and others were alleging 6 million were in jeopardy in eastern Europe in the early 1930s (published in Reader's Digest). There were numerous other claims that either 6 million (or billion) Jews were in big trouble, usually in eastern Europe, written about going back to the late 1800s. Sometimes it takes a while to get a good propaganda campaign going.
@Ponerology There's only 7billion people alive in the world right now... so if there were 6 billion Jews "in big trouble" that would be the vast majority of the world's population. Or maybe the world really was so massively over-populated that Hitler decided we needed to kill the Jews to make space for everyone else. Crazy theory, but I've heard crazier.
Disclaimer: I don't believe that, ffs, don't be dumb.
Yes, but it's pretty much the same with Richar Wagner, whose music is forbidden in Israel, because he was Hitlers favourit composer, even though he died before Hitler was born.
@88BigPhill88 That's bollox, Ride of the Valkyries has to be one of the best pieces i've heard. Just because it was one of hiter's "favourites" doesn't mean other people can't get a share of it too.
@PushEastward okay great, then shall we compare the evidence for both sides of the argument and see who wins? put it before an impartial jury? What do you think the outcome would be?
Hitler belonged to the Satanic Cult called -The Vril Society. He was after the Jews money (and the rest of the worlds). He really loved those beautiful Russian masterpieces; thank God he didn't get there.
"No, we do not love humanity; but on the other hand we are not nearly 'German' enough, in the sense in which the word 'German' is constantly being used nowadays, to advocate nationalism and race hatred and to be able to take pleasure in the national scabies of the heart and blood poisoning that now leads the nations of Europe to delimit and barricade themselves against each other as if it were a matter of quarantine. " - Friedrich Nietzsche
@Pepar1000 "one need only compare ... say, the Chinese or the Germans, with the Jews in order to appreciate the difference between first- and fifth-rate" (Nietzsche, Genealogy of Morals, p35). "Blood-poisoning (it has mixed the races together)" (p21) "with the Jews the slave revolt in morals begins" (p20). "Negroes ... representatives of prehistoric man" (p49). "one hysterical littke bluestocking" (p49). etc etc, this idiot just tells jokes, Nietzsche WAS proto fascist.
Maybe you would examine other mainstream 19th century literature, too. He was certainly not "proto-fascist". He was strongly anti-religion. That is any religion (in the traditional sense of meaning).
@Wrath0fKhan Maybe "proto-fascist" is not quite right, but it is clear that he has far more in common with fascism intellectually than most other writers of his time. Those quotations are really clear. You could'nt find anything quite like that in Dickens or Tolstoy or Twain or Melville or Mill ... You are also wrong about his attitude to religion. He objected only to "slave religions", religions that emphasise humility, like Christianity, Judaism. He wanted a religion for the master races.
Philosopher, historian Bruno Bauer - Die Juden Frage (1843). Philosopher, historian Karl Marx - Zur Juden Frage (1843). Journalist, writer Otto Glagau - Series of articles in "Gartenlaube" (ca 1874), Anarchist, political agitator, founder of the "Antisemitenliga" Wilhelm Marr - Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum (1879). Wilhelm Marr - Goldene Ratten und rothe Mäuse (1880). Publisher, agitator Theodor Fritsch, Antisemiten-Katechismus (1887). And so on...
@Wrath0fKhan Ok, so both Nazism and Nietzsche came out of the same background; anti-semitism was widespread - common knowledge. But there is much more that Nietzsche and Nazism have in common than just anti semitism. Authoritarianism, anti-intellectualism, fuhrer principle, Aryan race ideology, rejection of religions or ideologies espousing meekness and humility, glorification of war and conquest, anti democratism, belief that west is decadent, anti-feminism - ALL this!
"dieses abscheuliche Mitredenwollen noioser Dilettanten über den Werth von Menschen und Rassen, diese Unterwerfung unter ‚Autoritäten‘, welche von jedem besonneneren Geiste mit kalter Verachtung abgelehnt werden […] diese beständigen absurden Fälschungen und Zurechtmachungen der vagen Begriffe ‚germanisch‘, ‚semitisch‘, ‚arisch‘, ‚christlich‘, ‚deutsch‘ […]“
@Wrath0fKhan It is clear that Nietzsche was anti-semitic and racist. Need I actually repeat: Chinese and Germans first rate; Jews, fifth rate! And the "blond beast", etc etc. This letter only shows him complaining about being lumped in with lesser writers. That he believed everything I attribute to him is clear. Why do you want to dissociate him from Nazism? If you like what he says, then you must like a large part of Nazism, because so much is the same! So why not just embrace them both?
@stilicho2 The line leading into that precise quote says "The Jews... in whom there dwelt a popular-moral genius without parallel: just compare the people with similar talents -- for instance, the Chinese or Germans -- with the Jews in order to feel what is first and what fifth rank."
So he's saying the Jews are first and the Germans and Chinese fifth. You stupid fucking asshole.
@hallstripes2 You got it wrong. You read the one passage and took it out of the context of the book, which you have not read. Nietzsche was comparing first rank races (Romans, Germans, Chinese) who are noble and strong, with fifth rank races (Jews) who can only insinuate themselves through "priestly resentment". Nietzsche wanted us Aryans to throw off the alien Judaeo-Christian priestly slave morality, and reconnect with the master morality of the "blond germanic beast".
@hallstripes2 No. The idea that Jews are first rate and Germans fifth makes no sense in the context of Nietzsche's writings. What I wrote is true, (as you would know if you read more than just wikipedia). Consider: " the Jews stood convicted of hatred towards the whole of mankind: RIGHTLY, insofar as one is entitled to associate the salvation and future of mankind with the absolute supremacy of the aristocratic values." (the values of the "noble races", including "the blond Germanic beast")
First of all, the expression "Aryans" should be dismissed, as there is no such race. It was merely a fiction devised by Nazi "philosophers", of which Nietzsche was obviously not one. The word Aryan can be loosely applied to the early settlers of North India and Persia, more as a linguistic term than a racial. The word "Iran" is related.
Nietzsche was not, as sometimes thought, anti-semitic, but to some extent was anti-German. He says scathing things about the Germans, never about the Jews.
@eastwood1941 Friend, you hav'nt read Genealogy of Morals. As for dismissing the word Aryan, well, in the context of a discussion of Nietzsche we cannot do that, since Nietzsche himself uses it, and in a racial, not merely a linguistic sense. (It is also false that it was devised by Nazis, it goes much further back.) As for "Nietzsche was not anti semitic": try reading his texts, and not just googling.
@eastwood1941 (cont.) Nietzsche saw history as a struggle between races bearing a master morality (Romans, Germans etc) and races bearing a slave (priestly) morality (Jews). He thought that a post-Christian period was beginning in his time, and he hoped that the master races would throw off the alien Jewish slave moralities.
@Wrath0fKhan It is clear that Nietzsche was anti-semitic and racist. Need I actually repeat: Chinese and Germans first rate; Jews, fifth rate! And the "blond beast", etc etc. This letter only shows him complaining about being lumped in with lesser writers. That he believed everything I attribute to him is clear. Why do you want to dissociate him from Nazism? If you like what he says, then you must like a large part of Nazism, because so much is the same! So why not just embrace them both?
No... Lumped with truly Antisemitic writers, who truly came to consider Jews a biologically inferior race, responsible for "all the evil" in this world. (Something he never attempted to do.)
"dissociate him from Nazism"
Since he has never associated himself with Nazism, there is no need to dissociate him from Nazism either.
@Wrath0fKhan 1) Ah, then so long as you do not frame your anti semitism in pseudo-biological language, and combine it with a conspiracy theory, its NOT anti-semitism. 2) He is regularly associated with Nazism, because of how much his ideas have in common ith Nazism. I have already listed the main themes, which, it is very clear, are prominent in both. 3) Given that they have so much in common, is it not logically inconsistent to agree with the ideas of one, and not the other?
"as long as you do not frame your anti semitism in"
Then its not Antisemitism at all. Exactly.
"He is regularly associated with Nazism"
Again... The problem is, he is associated with Nazism by crackpots just like you.
"given that they have so much in common"
Indeed... Do you eat healthy foods? Do you physically exercise? Do you exercise proper personal hygiene? Well, you one "Nazi", you. You are a crackpot, indeed.
@Wrath0fKhan 1) Nietzsche does use somewhat biological language, e.g. "blood poisoning". However, of course it is absurd to deny that "fifth rate slaves" is anti-semitic! "Geneticist" language is not the only way to be anti-semitic! 2) "Crackpot" is a mere insult. I take it basically as concession on your part. I have advanced plenty of good reasons for associating Nietzsche with Nazism. Healthy diet etc are not definitive of Nazism; the things I listed are.
@stilicho2 You do know that his sister edited his works to conform to the nationalist socialist ideals? I can understand how his writings can be misconstrued as anti semitic, but, like any literature it is open to interpretation and Nietzche especially so. Nietzche despised concepts such as nationalism or the republic because it denigrated the individual. Please tell me if I have not explained myself properly or if you have any other questions.
@SoldierofFortune07 Hi, thanks for taking the trouble to reply. It seems that some of Nietzsche's dicta are impossible to construe/interpret as NOT anti-semitic. (For examples, see the quotations in my original reply @Pepar1000, above.) But anti semitism is only one "Nazi" theme in his works. People who like Nietzsche's books for reasons that I sympathise with tend to want to whitewash him, but actually every Nazi theme is in Nietzsche, and vice versa.
@stilicho2 I'd disagree with you as not being able to see it as not anti semitic. Nietzche did not write for the likes of National Socialists (though they liked to believe so). His works were written with a philosophical point of view rather than political as you yourself would interpret it. Whilst some do whitewash Nietzche's work and fail to see some very dangerous content I think that you are (unintentionally) doing so in the opposite direction unintentionally.
Nietzsche "to" Nietzsche (a note), KSA 12, 7[67], S. 321:
"Neulich hat ein Herr Theodor Fritsch aus Leipzig an mich geschrieben. Es giebt gar keine unverschämtere und stupidere Bande in Deutschland als diese Antisemiten. Ich habe ihm brieflich zum Danke einen ordentlichen Fußtritt versetzt. Dies Gesindel wagt es, den Namen Z[arathustra] in den Mund zu nehmen! Ekel! Ekel! Ekel!"
Who is the most stupid "gang" in Germany? The "Antisemiten" (i.e. Antisemites).
@Wrath0fKhan Right - his name for these demagogic populist journalists is "the anti-semites" . That he does not call himself anti-semitic is no reason why we should not. He does not want to be associated with them - but we can see from HIS OWN writings that there is far more similarity than he would like to concede.
He actually specifically refers to Dühring (philosopher, economist), Wagner (mainly famous composer), Wahrmund (expert in oriental studies), and de Lagarde (philosopher, expert in oriental studies). Evidently those people were "more" than just demagogic populist journalists, even though their treatises concerning the issue at hand were demagogic and populist.
Of course he did not! He specifically stated why, too.
"from his own writings that there is far more similarity"
Thats because you dont understand, just as those Antisemites did not understand. There is a difference between legitimate criticism and demagogic Antisemitism. There is a difference between "Völkisch Romanticism" and Nazism usurping its "spirit" for its own ghoulish purposes.
@Wrath0fKhan "Volikisch romanticism" - thankyou, I forgot to put that common theme on my list before. "Legitmate criticism" of the Jews now! True colours emerging. As for "I do not understand", you have not shown that, though you have had plenty of opportunity. Nietzscheans want to disown their closeness to Nazism a) because Nazism is not socially acceptable and b) out of intellectual snobbery: Nietzche was a talented, powerful writer; Hitler was not. But their actual beliefs were damn close.
@Wrath0fKhan From another of Nietzsche's letters: he complains that "the name of Zarathustra is used in every anti-semitic correspondence sheet" Well, I wonder how on earth that could have happened, Friedrich. However can your works have become so terribly misunderstood? Perhaps if you stopped slagging off the Jews so much, it might stop people getting the "wrong" impression?
"Not a traditional subject for comedy the old Holocaust..." Actually it is. The only stand up subject that is less original is relationships.
MrZulle89 3 days ago
Men like dogs,both have to go down to the ground level just to take a shit.
And men deny God exist!!!!!!
TOLTECAAZTECA 5 days ago
@TOLTECAAZTECA
My God thinks you're insane.
MsDenyEverything 5 days ago
@MsDenyEverything And my God thinks your mother is a female dog.
TOLTECAAZTECA 4 days ago
not quick enough for my pause screenshot
melsegers95 1 week ago
furk :D first funny British humor i ever heard :D Do we need Gipsies :D LOL
administratorius1 1 week ago
Flips hair to look like Hitler, flips it back to PERFECTION
O_O WUT!?
QWERTYwithaQ 2 weeks ago
Hitler: The first person to lose at russian roulette
Airman32292 3 weeks ago
this guy is a shame to comedy
safwan321 1 month ago
@safwan321 he is a genius, who observes stuff very well and can make comedy out of the most darkest of subjects, people like you just dont have the mental capacity to understand his intelligent jokes.
Dale21166 1 week ago
I find it hard to laugh at this sort of thing. My grandparents fought in the war and I've heard some pretty unbelievable stories. But sometimes it can get to be a bit too much. "For fucks sake grandad we are trying to have Christmas dinner! Nobody cares how many Jews you killed!"
Lexington365 1 month ago
For the last 10 years of his life Nietzsche was brain dead, during that time he was cared for by his sister who was an anti-Semitic of the far-right, and she arranged, reorganised and constructed Nietzsche work in support of that. But when reading Nietzsche it is immediately obvious this isn't the case. Hitler used Nietzsche, as he used democracy. Hitler’s ideas were a lot more similar to Christianity than to Nietzsche’s, (who only liked the Jewish part of the bible)
Mr1100112233 1 month ago
@Mr1100112233
How do you "arrange, reorganise and construct" a work to change it's meaning in support of one's own views?
MsDenyEverything 1 week ago
Just today at the bar I was telling a friend how I pity Nietzsche, his 3 most quoted thingies are completely taken out of context.
1. "Übermensch" being used by Nazis to justify their philosophical views
2. The stuff about not forgetting the whip when going to women (people think he says to take a whip with you when going to women, actually he is warning about women having a whip)
3. "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" taken literally ("What if it paralyzes you, I'm so smart, herpderp")
TheRyowyn 1 month ago
its funny after the also called Holocaust only Jews where able to create a state Gypsies still no nation yet maybe in another Holocaust hahahahahahahahah
DJGTFO 2 months ago
Ricky obviusly knows little about Fredrick. He would be discusted with hitler. hitler distorted his work so badly
smallpotatoes989 2 months ago
For who speaks english: what did he say in the end? ("the ******, do we need them?")
ThePianoTester 2 months ago
@ThePianoTester "Gypsies"
Winterdenni 2 months ago
there was noo such thing in hitlers mind as to kill all the fucking jews..the gassings are the biggest fraud of the past century and still going on...this fucking comedian should know it or im missing some sarcasm.
sheyon1000 2 months ago
@sheyon1000 "or im missing some sarcasm"
You're missing a lot more. That's for sure.
Zendrig 2 months ago
@Zendrig ok its just that this lie has gone too far with never ending wars cause of it..every "dictator"is compared to hitler cause they lied about the 6mill ghosts..
sheyon1000 2 months ago
@sheyon1000 I have no idea what you're talking about. Your view of history is pretty twisted and I wonder who's to blame for that. Or you're just a troll. In which case I'm the one to blame.
Zendrig 2 months ago
@Zendrig Look it doesnt matter at the end..truth or not the imporatnat thing is that it feels right and good or funny in this case..Feel good society,what to expect.
sheyon1000 2 months ago
I think Nietzsche would have considerd Hitler an ass hole considering how much he hated anti-semites.
Eopyk 2 months ago
@Eopyk i think thats an understatement.
mikeylikesit2675 2 months ago
Don't get me wrong I would not want that to happen, I'm not an anti-Semite, but I'm not anti-Hitlerite either, in my humble opinion I understand Hitler, he felt horrible I know how people are in this condition. Hitler was autistic, but anti-Semitism and Nazism gave him the confidence to lie and tell truths to make himself praised, this isn't a rational conception but if his dream came true I admire him for the effort he used to set a nation its freedom.
Hoobifta 2 months ago
@Hoobifta Hitler was a Christian. And he virtualy took away all freedom from individuals.
Eopyk 2 months ago
Hitler could've been a nihilist, if existence is useless then the existence of death is useless. However I studied Hitler, he was an artist-wannabe, and failed entry into an art school, what a shame! He had this psychology that the Jews were not alone a religion but to him a race, and the "disease" of Jews is the "corruption" of Germany for some reason. What I don't understand is the holocaust, Hitler could've burned all the texts and killed more Jews if he was strong in his faith and pride.
Hoobifta 2 months ago
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nietchze hated anti semites
MrBillcale 2 months ago
hitler wasn't all bad. he did kill hitler.
wavebaby92 2 months ago 38
@wavebaby92 yes, yes he did.
DJBoxhouse 1 month ago
Nietzsce loved power, hated compassion, and believed the French Revolution was vindicated solely by the fact that Napoleon rose to power as a result. Say what you want about his contributions to philosophy, he was a HORRIBLE man. No morally sane person should look up to his contemptuous and arrogant remarks on human beings, he would rather deride humanity instead of help it. What a sorry excuse for a human being. Read Russell or someone less inhuman if your really serious about philosophy.
LetsStayAtADistance 3 months ago
@LetsStayAtADistance Really Russels missunderstod Nietzsche and also read him in cases way to literal.
Most people he knew Nietzsche in real life describe a very quiet gentleman. He hade good female friends(something I think would chock missunderstanding Russels)
Now what arrogant remarks ? He argued that each human being should form there own values and morality and there own meaning to life shape there own reality after there own will.What is so bad ?
Eopyk 2 months ago
@LetsStayAtADistance P 2 Moraly sane person ? Morality is subjective . Nietzsche did not like moralisers or people who where trying to push there morals as truth.
And to your knowlage he even did charitable works.
He did not like the Christian morality which he considerd slave morality he argued that people should embrace there inner lusts and there humanity.
Now I do not agree with everything he wrote. But as existentialist I agree with many of his basic ideas.
Eopyk 2 months ago
@Eopyk Nietzsche's biggest gripe with christianity was that its moral code was hypocritical and hollow, the terms of salvation in christianity allow christians to behave in the most reprehensible ways, and commit awful acts, only to be forgiven, and absolved by reciting a prayer, he argued that people should be good simply for the sake of being good, and that the reward from doing the right thing is the satisfaction received from having done the right thing.
mikeylikesit2675 2 months ago
@mikeylikesit2675 Yeah he wanted people to think for themselves and form there own morals and values and live there after. Just a bit sad too see that he is still so basicly missunderstod by so many
All love and respect
Eopyk 2 months ago
Fucking lowbrow Ricky Gervais! Dragging Nietzsche through the mud by having him have a conversation with Adolf Hitler. Hey Ricky, you rat bastard, Nietzsche went insane in 1889, before Hitler was even born. In fact, after Nietzsche's complete mental collapse he wrote his friend Overbeck: "Although you have...demonstrated little faith in my ability to pay, I yet hope to demonstrate I am somebody who pays his debts--for example, to you. I am having all anti-Semites shot." So fuck off Ricky!
639742T 3 months ago
hilarious hypothetical conversation between Nietzche and Hitler.
technicallyabsurd 3 months ago
Ricky Gervais and Eddie Izzard are staples as British comedians. If I were British, I'd do all I could to see them live.
DimebagsZombie 3 months ago
@DimebagsZombie If I was British, I would kill myself and before I died
I would kill this unfunny assboy! NOT FUNNY!
I wonder who laughs at this shit~ Humor is always hurtful, when it
isn't, it's not funny. But this guy misses the mark. Being a silly bastard
isn't funny, just silly.
fntime 3 months ago
@fntime It's your subjective opinion. If you don't like Gervais, fine. But he must be important enough for you to type his name in and watch his comedic sketches. That considered, if you just came to this video to troll people who like his videos, then that begs the question on just how meaningless your life truly is.
DimebagsZombie 3 months ago
@DimebagsZombie How about you sticking the 'trolling' up your ass.
I presume you are gay and are offended when someone criticizes one of
your gay icons. Unfortunately he is NOT a funny gay man. And like you
he is silly. My life is totally meaningless, I understand and embrace
that fact, unlike you.
"Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox!"
fntime 3 months ago
@fntime I wish I could understand your logic, but I'm not five.
DimebagsZombie 3 months ago
@DimebagsZombie It is quite obvious that you are not intelligent.
'But you are not five' meaning you are stupid & unendowed.
Your mind isn't your friend and neither is your 'endowment'.
fntime 3 months ago
@fntime Is there anything you intend on gaining by spewing your subjective thoughts in the manner as if it were law? If not, I'm not going to waste my time with you.
DimebagsZombie 3 months ago
nietzche would probably have more sympathy for the nazis who he influenced than he would for the hippies and beats of the sixties who appropriated his ideas or the frankfurt school who interpreted his philosophy as justification for their destruction of western culture. FN was an anti semite before he died
ThomasRowsell 4 months ago
@ThomasRowsell
Nietzsche criticized his sister for marrying an anti-semite (she's the one who actually edited his work and added the anti-semitic elements) and spoke admiringly of jewish people, saying that centuries of persecution had turned them into the hardiest people of europe. at a time when everyone from dostoevsky to edgar allen poe described jews as sneaky and greedy, that's pretty fucking tolerant. his writings were so ambiguous that you could use them as justification for anything.
brodythompson1 3 months ago 43
@brodythompson1 its true his sister distorted his writing to be pro nationalist, he was anti-nationalism you see. and its true about his admiration for jews, and their will to power and self determination, he despised his fellow germans for being weak, hitler wanted germans to act more like jews by becoming the master of their own racial destiny like jews are. Anyway, before he died N wrote lots of very anti-semetic stuff that has nothing to do with his sister.
ThomasRowsell 3 months ago
@ThomasRowsell Saying that there was no connection between Nietzsche and Hitler is tenuous. If a person believes that they are Superman and that everyone else is a waste of human flesh, then it is a good chance that this Superman person will kill the waste if he gets power. Nietzsche loved Napoleon. Hitler is Napoleon on steroids. Nietzsche was a great thinker, shredding religion. This is what should be studied. However, there is no Zarathrustra. If you believe, you will kill.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 3 months ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus Saying there is a link between the two is retarded. Look up his word.
hearthisman 3 months ago
@brodythompson1 Obviously U have read Nietzsche well. And believe or not so has Ricky Gervais. By the means of comedy he tells a true story.Yes he is atheist, and I like to stay in the middle. "God is dead". Nietzsche doesn't mean that literally. It's just one of his writings taken out from the context, like so many else.I wrote my Laudatur about " Nietzzsche and the beginning of Existentialism". glad to see that there are smart individuals here. Nietzsche wrote to individuals.
Adamson11x 2 months ago
@brodythompson1 Sisters are the worst trolls, aren't they.
Mullahgrrl 2 months ago
@ThomasRowsell "FN was an anti semite before he died." Yeah, not true.
YoungZer0 3 months ago
@Romansteel13
I'm actually a philosophy graduate student at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, so not really an armchair philosopher, no. I will admit I don't focus much on Nietzsche, I'm more of a Hegelian myself. Anyways, grammar has to do with linguistic rules and correct composition of sentences; what you're describing yourself as is a spelling nazi. Grammar and spelling are two different linguistic schools, though usually intertwined.
11133jen 4 months ago
and a good joke at that.. given the number of interesting comments - it clearly made a lot of people sit up and think. whatever you might think about the content.
andrewwduncan 4 months ago
Friedrich Nietzsche was dead by the time Adolf Hitler came to power!!! What a dumb peice of british trash ricky gervais
superbench75 4 months ago
@superbench75 Are you taking the joke literary? Because, it was just that, a joke.
XxChickenFried 4 months ago
@superbench75 Its a joke you thick american
churchjamespeter 4 months ago
@superbench75 lol... typical american.
k0tz45 3 months ago
@k0tz45 you do know he is british?
TheGshocka 3 months ago
@TheGshocka Lol of course dude... i was calling a commenter "a typical American" (who called ricky gervais a "dumb piece of british trash")
k0tz45 3 months ago
@k0tz45 ah right lol didnt see that
TheGshocka 3 months ago
@ReallyImportantWork Wow, dude.
hallstripes2 4 months ago
Nietzsche was very pro-Semite and very anti-German, especially when he is read in light of his time. Antisemitic sentiment was already the prevailing view in early-20th century Germany, and people see what they want to see when they view art. Several times in his various writings, he criticized the mediocrity and thoughtlessness in German culture while praising the Jews' culture for its ingenuity, individuality, pride, and thought. Nietzsche would have shuttered to hear his name to justify WW2.
holdme2000 4 months ago 2
@holdme2000 You mean shuddered?
JessAtlas 4 months ago
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holdme2000 4 months ago
oh Ricky seriously? being funny about holocaust and Nietzsche? that is so poor! you better be back in the office making fun about the receptionist. that was funny. cheers
yalimurat 4 months ago
He used to be funny in the 90's.
EvilCensor 4 months ago
Nietzsche never wrote about superman! he wrote about over man ,
smallpotatoes989 4 months ago
@smallpotatoes989
In the Original German Neitzche's word was the Übermensch, which means superman, overman, overhuman, uberman or Above human. So you are very sadly and wholly mistaken. Less armchair philosophy kids please.
11133jen 4 months ago 26
@11133jen What were you replying to?
he didn't actually mean there were superhumans walking around exactly (not x-men superhuman, but suprahumans, better humans).. There are ofcourse people who have better abilities than others, I'm better at football than a cripple most likely, but it's all relative. The superhuman was a part in all of us if I remember correctly.. Or osme people have that quality to exceed themselves I think. Is this what you meant?
Kan2209 4 months ago
@11133jen Neitzche clearly talked about how morality was created by people of higher position and talked about the extermination of "evil men" by "good men" created a "pettier, meaner" world as opposed to a world in which we let men that society considers evil to live. So in that sense, he would not have supported Hitler, because Adolf created a sense of "good men" (Aryans) exterminating "evil men" (Jews) (When Neitzche says "good" & "evil" he means through the eyes of power which people follow)
CrossCreed4800 4 months ago
@11133jen
"Less armchair philosophy kids please."
Isn't that what you are, darling Jen?
Pot, meet kettle.
"Neitzche"
Nietzsche*
Yes I am a grammar Nazi, blow me.
Romansteel13 4 months ago
@11133jen no, actually he's right. hitler completely misinterpreted him.
tedwilli9 1 month ago
@tedwilli9 all;you did was reiterate what we already knew -- that he had a theory about the superman, but it applies to a Christ-complex and idealization, not killing Jews or even that people are better than other people. It had more to do with religious enslavement and the impossibility of living up to a standard such as a Christ.
tedwilli9 1 month ago
@tedwilli9 Nietzsche cared very little about people not being able to live up to the standard of christ. For Nietzsche the superman was an individual like Christ or Moses who created new values that helped the individual escape nihlism. The herd needs mythology while the superman can create his own purpose for living.
Seaworldexists 1 month ago
I cannot fathom the mentality (or absence) of finding the holocaust funny. It is not reality that is absurd, it is we who are most absurd. How easy to make fun of one of the most horrific episodes in history. The humiliation, mental torture and annihilation of 10 million people. Some things can never be spoken of in jest.
76endurathon 4 months ago
Motherfuckin moron... what the fuck he supose to know who is Friedrich Nietzsche ... that fuckin shit cant understand the one single word of the Nietzsche! Fuckin punk!
kockajebacenainemoze 5 months ago
@kockajebacenainemoze Although your wording isn't quite customary, i agree.
paddymoep 5 months ago
Did I hear correctly The Gypsies do we need them LOL
Mar2623 5 months ago
Pause at 0:37, take the picture xD
CIRCLECIX 5 months ago
@IloveUSA1941 well dude, first of all this has nothing to do with lectures or university professors it's just stand-up comedy, so too bad if you don't have any sense of humour and secondly your remarks betray what an odd specimen you must be: "gay looking guy?" "those idiots?" those are the typical remarks of a self-righteous and bigoted reactionary; you'd better look at the comments posted so far and try to learn from them....
akimorita 5 months ago
Im just curious who is this chubby, gay looking guy lecturing his audience like a professor in university? and what the fuck are those idiots in the seats who paid for this? is this supposed to be what?
IloveUSA1941 5 months ago
@IloveUSA1941 Its Ricky Gervais' way of bringing Nietzsche to a mainstream audience - a so called philosopher who vented his hatred against Christianity with countless vitriolic works such as "Antichrist" & "God is De**" .... Nietzsche died in a mental institution after an 11 year vegetated state which is normally what happens to people of his ilk (just look at pics of Lenin before his death) - Anyway it was the Catholic Church that carried out all the atrocities - Hitler was just a puppet
tiarnan76 5 months ago
Gervais is an outspoken atheist too and promotes the (ridiculous) theory of evolution with childrens books and promotes anti Christian sentiment at any possible chance...You can see from his latest pictures and his arrogant abhorrent attitude he is spiritually dying and will also go the way of Lenin, Nietzsche etc...
tiarnan76 5 months ago
@tiarnan76 Better than going the way of the delusional crazy christian.
DieOrBlink 5 months ago 15
@DieOrBlink What one thing that Chrrist said would you take issue with? what about this: “You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that?
tiarnan76 5 months ago
@tiarnan76 and what reward is their for loving those that hate you? Your so typical its funny. Pulling bible verses out that are completely irrelevant. You say love your enemies? then why are you so quick to call out Rick for being an out spoken atheist? Like i said you are a cookie cutter typical christian.
DieOrBlink 5 months ago
@tiarnan76
And then he alludes to an alter-ego monarch returning from coronation and slaying all those who refused to accept him as their king. Nice...
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Run that by me one more time?
tiarnan76 4 months ago
@tiarnan76
"Run that by me one more time"
Sure, bro... I will pinch you just one more time. Parable of the Minas (i.e. Luke 19:11-28).
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan
*Rather Luke 19:12-27
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@tiarnan76
*Rather Luke 19:12-27
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@tiarnan76 "ridiculous theory of evolution", sir you have to take basic high school biology before making a statement like that.... Literally just about every scientist (including me) understand that evolution (which is only called a theory because science is very humble) is a fact that is as certain as whether or not the Earth revolves around the Sun.... Just to put it in perspective. May I ask your level of education in the subject?
karim3343 4 months ago
Well actually Nietzsche hated anyone who was anti-Semitic and nationalistic, that's why he broke off his relationship with Wagner (see Nietzsche Contra Wagner), and he was upset with his sister Elizabeth for marrying an anti-Semite. In fact, it was Elizabeth who went back and re-edited he works to try to show he supported National Socialism which he obviously didn't.
mygeneration01 5 months ago 3
it is kinda sad that a name has to die out because of one asshole. why is it that the name Adolf has to die when the name Hiter suffices just fine? overkill n.p.i.
one time i rented a book in the library in middle school about Hitler's life (not referring to him as Adolf) and other kids wouldn't leave me alone to read the entire thing.
allabastormaroe 6 months ago
but this bit is quite funny anyways :)
aish021 6 months ago
nietzsche felt sympathy for the jews
read - human all to human - a glance at the state
adolf hitler reinterpreted and antagonized the jewish people while nietzsche felt sympathy for them... nietzsche and hitler did not share the same ideologies
aish021 6 months ago 3
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aish021 6 months ago
whaaa !!
02111986vineelreddy 6 months ago
I could watch this on repeat. Love Gervais!
crystalsc 6 months ago
That's funny, even though Hitler was in no way influenced by Nietzsche. The whole correlation between the two comes from when Nietzsche's sister took his works and tried to pass them off as Nazi propaganda and idealism (after Hitler already had his ideas), at which point Nietzsche metaphorically bitch-slapped his sister via a letter that all but disowns her.
trooubermensch 6 months ago
The link between Nietzsche and Nazism is a common misconception. It was Nietzsche's estranged and ambitious sister who took his incomplete writings after his death, and edited them into a form that would appear to support the Nazis.
jasondelauro 6 months ago
@jasondelauro While she did do that after his death, she took them while he was still alive and tried to pass them off as support of Nazi ideals, and they were very much completed before he died (being published is a different matter). He even reamed the hell out of his sister for having done that. Also, they weren't so much estranged as in Nietzsche's later years, she was the one who took care of him when his mental health deteriorated.
trooubermensch 6 months ago
@TheOneThirteen Are you fucking stupid? There were outbreaks of typhoid through all overcrowded camps! This required a crematoria (in order to burn the bodies, in an attempt to stop the spread of typhus) - do you think individual graves would be dug when so many people died at once!?
I can't believe you would say something as ridiculous as that! The USSR didn't even allow Western authorities to investigate any camps in Soviet territory! You are grade A asinine!
There are photos of mass graves!
57worldwide 6 months ago
@TheOneThirteen That's nonsense - there is proof of an attempt at systematic extermination of people seen as being unworthy of life.
To claim there are no substantiated claims of gas chamber executions is one thing, to claim there was no attempt at eliminating groups from German society is stupid and incorrect. There were mass executions, of Jewish, Roma, homosexual and handicapped people. Don't be a pawn.
57worldwide 6 months ago
10 facts about you:
1. You are reading this comment
2.You are realizing that is a stupid fact
4.you didn't notice I skipped three.5 You're checking now
6. You're smiling
7.You are still reading my comment
9 You didn't realize I skipped eight
10. You're checking again and smiling about how you fell for it again.
11. You are enjoying this 12. You didnt realize there are only supposed to be ten facts. post this to one video and tomorrow is the best day ever
mitchmich69 6 months ago
@mitchmich69 Don't be stupid. There are ten facts... It won't make it a good day tomorrow.
That's like saying 'if you post this comment, you will receive a plentiful harvest' - is this appealling to you?
'post this comment and the rains will arrive' 'post this comment, and your family will be healthy' 'post this comment, and you will increase your capacity to learn about and understand physics' 'post this comment, and your penis is guaranteed to grow by AT LEAST 2 inches!'
57worldwide 6 months ago
@57worldwide you say that, it pissed it down today, my family's still alive and i just got my physics degree today!
My penis is still the same :-(
mitchmich69 6 months ago
in Nietzsche's book ''beyond good and evil'' he clearly mocks ''rabid anti-semites' in germany and states how jewish people are good people. You can disagree with Nietzsche just please dont make up bullshit people!
goldfishcarnival 6 months ago 2
@TheOneThirteen Okay, not sure if trolling or just incredibly stupid...or just complete and utterly delusional, perhaps as a result of NAZI brainwashing. Tinfoilhat.jpg
0ElectricWizard 6 months ago
@TheOneThirteen Copypasta. At least come up with some sort of original, provocative troll instead of plaguing the comments with some neonazi propaganda that fails miserably to anyone who knows anything about history. (You do realise that there is *video footage* that conclusively shows that a systematic extermination did happen at those *population centres*, right?)
0ElectricWizard 6 months ago
'Holocaust' is the yiddish word for BURNT OFFERING as in sacrafice on an alter. Curious word used to describe this...
formerassassin 6 months ago
@formerassassin Yeah but Jews also talk about Holocaust as "Shoah" which means Doom, Destruction
GDevourer 6 months ago
God there are some absolute morons with keyboards & access to the internet. If you must insist on sharing your opinions at least formulate them & express them somewhat cohesively. But in all honesty, just don't bother to begin with, but I know you will because your a block headed.
roblonolean 6 months ago
In Britain philosphy has nothing to do with wars and economics. It's only about how to sound smart and win arguments in the study over crumpets and tea.
TreeLuvBurdpu 7 months ago
Things didn't turn out much better in Neitzsche's life either.
TreeLuvBurdpu 7 months ago
atheist : thats good. clever. holocaust believer of 6 million : WTF? this guy should learn more about the history. gosh people still believe that 6 million jews were killed by orders of Adolf Hitler? you dont believe in religion, then why dont you fucking wake up from the holocaust religion?
IloveUSA1941 7 months ago
His UK routine of the Hitler + Nietsche sketch is much funnier..
pacmandem 7 months ago
That 6 million figure has quite an interesting history. Jews, and others were alleging 6 million were in jeopardy in eastern Europe in the early 1930s (published in Reader's Digest). There were numerous other claims that either 6 million (or billion) Jews were in big trouble, usually in eastern Europe, written about going back to the late 1800s. Sometimes it takes a while to get a good propaganda campaign going.
Ponerology 7 months ago
@Ponerology There's only 7billion people alive in the world right now... so if there were 6 billion Jews "in big trouble" that would be the vast majority of the world's population. Or maybe the world really was so massively over-populated that Hitler decided we needed to kill the Jews to make space for everyone else. Crazy theory, but I've heard crazier.
Disclaimer: I don't believe that, ffs, don't be dumb.
WishMasterPtolemy 7 months ago
@WishMasterPtolemy he said 6 MILLION dumbass
marklosextremus 7 months ago
@marklosextremus Read the brackets, dipshit.
"either 6million (or billion)"
Damn trolls.
WishMasterPtolemy 7 months ago
Friedrich Nietzsche died before 1900 right?
Claymore2408 7 months ago
@Claymore2408
Yes, but it's pretty much the same with Richar Wagner, whose music is forbidden in Israel, because he was Hitlers favourit composer, even though he died before Hitler was born.
88BigPhill88 7 months ago
@88BigPhill88 That's bollox, Ride of the Valkyries has to be one of the best pieces i've heard. Just because it was one of hiter's "favourites" doesn't mean other people can't get a share of it too.
Claymore2408 7 months ago
@Claymore2408 I believe he died in 1892, he was living with his sister after a prolonged nervous, mental breakdown....
ianjrivers 4 months ago
@PushEastward okay great, then shall we compare the evidence for both sides of the argument and see who wins? put it before an impartial jury? What do you think the outcome would be?
josephmarshall 7 months ago
@PushEastward prove it.
josephmarshall 7 months ago
Hahaha ah that was a good joke. Congrats for this guy.
batiocanttouchthis 7 months ago
Hitler belonged to the Satanic Cult called -The Vril Society. He was after the Jews money (and the rest of the worlds). He really loved those beautiful Russian masterpieces; thank God he didn't get there.
NorthNorth2009 8 months ago
@NorthNorth2009 No. He was a Roman Catholic, and had support from the Vatican.
Mgopro 8 months ago
@Mgopro No you're wrong I saw a whole documentary on the history channel. Maybe you should upgrade your information before posting.
NorthNorth2009 8 months ago
my grandpa still was called adolf
lubberkin 8 months ago
"No, we do not love humanity; but on the other hand we are not nearly 'German' enough, in the sense in which the word 'German' is constantly being used nowadays, to advocate nationalism and race hatred and to be able to take pleasure in the national scabies of the heart and blood poisoning that now leads the nations of Europe to delimit and barricade themselves against each other as if it were a matter of quarantine. " - Friedrich Nietzsche
Pepar1000 8 months ago 13
@Pepar1000 "one need only compare ... say, the Chinese or the Germans, with the Jews in order to appreciate the difference between first- and fifth-rate" (Nietzsche, Genealogy of Morals, p35). "Blood-poisoning (it has mixed the races together)" (p21) "with the Jews the slave revolt in morals begins" (p20). "Negroes ... representatives of prehistoric man" (p49). "one hysterical littke bluestocking" (p49). etc etc, this idiot just tells jokes, Nietzsche WAS proto fascist.
stilicho2 5 months ago
@stilicho2
Maybe you would examine other mainstream 19th century literature, too. He was certainly not "proto-fascist". He was strongly anti-religion. That is any religion (in the traditional sense of meaning).
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Maybe "proto-fascist" is not quite right, but it is clear that he has far more in common with fascism intellectually than most other writers of his time. Those quotations are really clear. You could'nt find anything quite like that in Dickens or Tolstoy or Twain or Melville or Mill ... You are also wrong about his attitude to religion. He objected only to "slave religions", religions that emphasise humility, like Christianity, Judaism. He wanted a religion for the master races.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2
Philosopher, historian Bruno Bauer - Die Juden Frage (1843). Philosopher, historian Karl Marx - Zur Juden Frage (1843). Journalist, writer Otto Glagau - Series of articles in "Gartenlaube" (ca 1874), Anarchist, political agitator, founder of the "Antisemitenliga" Wilhelm Marr - Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum (1879). Wilhelm Marr - Goldene Ratten und rothe Mäuse (1880). Publisher, agitator Theodor Fritsch, Antisemiten-Katechismus (1887). And so on...
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Ok, so both Nazism and Nietzsche came out of the same background; anti-semitism was widespread - common knowledge. But there is much more that Nietzsche and Nazism have in common than just anti semitism. Authoritarianism, anti-intellectualism, fuhrer principle, Aryan race ideology, rejection of religions or ideologies espousing meekness and humility, glorification of war and conquest, anti democratism, belief that west is decadent, anti-feminism - ALL this!
stilicho2 4 months ago
Nietzsche to Fritsch (KSB 8, Nr. 823, S. 5):
"dieses abscheuliche Mitredenwollen noioser Dilettanten über den Werth von Menschen und Rassen, diese Unterwerfung unter ‚Autoritäten‘, welche von jedem besonneneren Geiste mit kalter Verachtung abgelehnt werden […] diese beständigen absurden Fälschungen und Zurechtmachungen der vagen Begriffe ‚germanisch‘, ‚semitisch‘, ‚arisch‘, ‚christlich‘, ‚deutsch‘ […]“
You are failing again.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan It is clear that Nietzsche was anti-semitic and racist. Need I actually repeat: Chinese and Germans first rate; Jews, fifth rate! And the "blond beast", etc etc. This letter only shows him complaining about being lumped in with lesser writers. That he believed everything I attribute to him is clear. Why do you want to dissociate him from Nazism? If you like what he says, then you must like a large part of Nazism, because so much is the same! So why not just embrace them both?
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2 The line leading into that precise quote says "The Jews... in whom there dwelt a popular-moral genius without parallel: just compare the people with similar talents -- for instance, the Chinese or Germans -- with the Jews in order to feel what is first and what fifth rank."
So he's saying the Jews are first and the Germans and Chinese fifth. You stupid fucking asshole.
hallstripes2 4 months ago
@hallstripes2 You got it wrong. You read the one passage and took it out of the context of the book, which you have not read. Nietzsche was comparing first rank races (Romans, Germans, Chinese) who are noble and strong, with fifth rank races (Jews) who can only insinuate themselves through "priestly resentment". Nietzsche wanted us Aryans to throw off the alien Judaeo-Christian priestly slave morality, and reconnect with the master morality of the "blond germanic beast".
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2 Ah, I see. You're fucking with me.
hallstripes2 4 months ago
@hallstripes2 No. The idea that Jews are first rate and Germans fifth makes no sense in the context of Nietzsche's writings. What I wrote is true, (as you would know if you read more than just wikipedia). Consider: " the Jews stood convicted of hatred towards the whole of mankind: RIGHTLY, insofar as one is entitled to associate the salvation and future of mankind with the absolute supremacy of the aristocratic values." (the values of the "noble races", including "the blond Germanic beast")
stilicho2 4 months ago
Ha ha.
hallstripes2 4 months ago
First of all, the expression "Aryans" should be dismissed, as there is no such race. It was merely a fiction devised by Nazi "philosophers", of which Nietzsche was obviously not one. The word Aryan can be loosely applied to the early settlers of North India and Persia, more as a linguistic term than a racial. The word "Iran" is related.
Nietzsche was not, as sometimes thought, anti-semitic, but to some extent was anti-German. He says scathing things about the Germans, never about the Jews.
eastwood1941 4 months ago
@eastwood1941 Friend, you hav'nt read Genealogy of Morals. As for dismissing the word Aryan, well, in the context of a discussion of Nietzsche we cannot do that, since Nietzsche himself uses it, and in a racial, not merely a linguistic sense. (It is also false that it was devised by Nazis, it goes much further back.) As for "Nietzsche was not anti semitic": try reading his texts, and not just googling.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@eastwood1941 (cont.) Nietzsche saw history as a struggle between races bearing a master morality (Romans, Germans etc) and races bearing a slave (priestly) morality (Jews). He thought that a post-Christian period was beginning in his time, and he hoped that the master races would throw off the alien Jewish slave moralities.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan It is clear that Nietzsche was anti-semitic and racist. Need I actually repeat: Chinese and Germans first rate; Jews, fifth rate! And the "blond beast", etc etc. This letter only shows him complaining about being lumped in with lesser writers. That he believed everything I attribute to him is clear. Why do you want to dissociate him from Nazism? If you like what he says, then you must like a large part of Nazism, because so much is the same! So why not just embrace them both?
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2
"lumped in with lesser writers"
No... Lumped with truly Antisemitic writers, who truly came to consider Jews a biologically inferior race, responsible for "all the evil" in this world. (Something he never attempted to do.)
"dissociate him from Nazism"
Since he has never associated himself with Nazism, there is no need to dissociate him from Nazism either.
"like a large part of Nazism"
You are embarrassing yourself.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan 1) Ah, then so long as you do not frame your anti semitism in pseudo-biological language, and combine it with a conspiracy theory, its NOT anti-semitism. 2) He is regularly associated with Nazism, because of how much his ideas have in common ith Nazism. I have already listed the main themes, which, it is very clear, are prominent in both. 3) Given that they have so much in common, is it not logically inconsistent to agree with the ideas of one, and not the other?
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2
"as long as you do not frame your anti semitism in"
Then its not Antisemitism at all. Exactly.
"He is regularly associated with Nazism"
Again... The problem is, he is associated with Nazism by crackpots just like you.
"given that they have so much in common"
Indeed... Do you eat healthy foods? Do you physically exercise? Do you exercise proper personal hygiene? Well, you one "Nazi", you. You are a crackpot, indeed.
Good bye.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan 1) Nietzsche does use somewhat biological language, e.g. "blood poisoning". However, of course it is absurd to deny that "fifth rate slaves" is anti-semitic! "Geneticist" language is not the only way to be anti-semitic! 2) "Crackpot" is a mere insult. I take it basically as concession on your part. I have advanced plenty of good reasons for associating Nietzsche with Nazism. Healthy diet etc are not definitive of Nazism; the things I listed are.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2 You do know that his sister edited his works to conform to the nationalist socialist ideals? I can understand how his writings can be misconstrued as anti semitic, but, like any literature it is open to interpretation and Nietzche especially so. Nietzche despised concepts such as nationalism or the republic because it denigrated the individual. Please tell me if I have not explained myself properly or if you have any other questions.
SoldierofFortune07 4 months ago
@SoldierofFortune07 Hi, thanks for taking the trouble to reply. It seems that some of Nietzsche's dicta are impossible to construe/interpret as NOT anti-semitic. (For examples, see the quotations in my original reply @Pepar1000, above.) But anti semitism is only one "Nazi" theme in his works. People who like Nietzsche's books for reasons that I sympathise with tend to want to whitewash him, but actually every Nazi theme is in Nietzsche, and vice versa.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2 I'd disagree with you as not being able to see it as not anti semitic. Nietzche did not write for the likes of National Socialists (though they liked to believe so). His works were written with a philosophical point of view rather than political as you yourself would interpret it. Whilst some do whitewash Nietzche's work and fail to see some very dangerous content I think that you are (unintentionally) doing so in the opposite direction unintentionally.
SoldierofFortune07 4 months ago
@stilicho2
Nietzsche "to" Nietzsche (a note), KSA 12, 7[67], S. 321:
"Neulich hat ein Herr Theodor Fritsch aus Leipzig an mich geschrieben. Es giebt gar keine unverschämtere und stupidere Bande in Deutschland als diese Antisemiten. Ich habe ihm brieflich zum Danke einen ordentlichen Fußtritt versetzt. Dies Gesindel wagt es, den Namen Z[arathustra] in den Mund zu nehmen! Ekel! Ekel! Ekel!"
Who is the most stupid "gang" in Germany? The "Antisemiten" (i.e. Antisemites).
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Right - his name for these demagogic populist journalists is "the anti-semites" . That he does not call himself anti-semitic is no reason why we should not. He does not want to be associated with them - but we can see from HIS OWN writings that there is far more similarity than he would like to concede.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@stilicho2
"demagogic populist journalists"
He actually specifically refers to Dühring (philosopher, economist), Wagner (mainly famous composer), Wahrmund (expert in oriental studies), and de Lagarde (philosopher, expert in oriental studies). Evidently those people were "more" than just demagogic populist journalists, even though their treatises concerning the issue at hand were demagogic and populist.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@stilicho2
"he does not want to be associated with them"
Of course he did not! He specifically stated why, too.
"from his own writings that there is far more similarity"
Thats because you dont understand, just as those Antisemites did not understand. There is a difference between legitimate criticism and demagogic Antisemitism. There is a difference between "Völkisch Romanticism" and Nazism usurping its "spirit" for its own ghoulish purposes.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan "Volikisch romanticism" - thankyou, I forgot to put that common theme on my list before. "Legitmate criticism" of the Jews now! True colours emerging. As for "I do not understand", you have not shown that, though you have had plenty of opportunity. Nietzscheans want to disown their closeness to Nazism a) because Nazism is not socially acceptable and b) out of intellectual snobbery: Nietzche was a talented, powerful writer; Hitler was not. But their actual beliefs were damn close.
stilicho2 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan From another of Nietzsche's letters: he complains that "the name of Zarathustra is used in every anti-semitic correspondence sheet" Well, I wonder how on earth that could have happened, Friedrich. However can your works have become so terribly misunderstood? Perhaps if you stopped slagging off the Jews so much, it might stop people getting the "wrong" impression?
stilicho2 4 months ago