You can find an 8mm projector for fairly cheap. Look on eBay, or in antique shops and thrift shops. If you want to transfer the movies to DVD, there are a lot of places that will do that. One place is called Dwayne's Photo, in Parsons, Kansas. They charge $10 and they're definitely the cheapest place I've found. YouTube doesn't allow links in video comments, but just do a Google search for "Dwayne's Photo" and you'll find it.
You'll need to use what's called "Regular 8mm" or "Double Run 8" movie film. You can order it online. It's kind of expensive, but it's fairly easy to find. I'll send you a message.
I have this same camera!!! It worked perfectly from the moment I bought it about 2 years ago in an antique mall. Unfortunately, it just stopped working a few nights ago without any warning :-p Maybe something in the motor is jammed, but whatever it is, hopefully I can fix it...
that's a great thing about these cameras: a lot of them still work, because they don't use some obscure outdated battery that could corrode over 50 years, or a power cord that could short circuit or go missing and be hard to find. they're wind-up. and as long as we got opposable thumbs that's a great idea.
Should look into a Leicina Special 8mm, that's as good as it gets on super 8 camera's. I have several 8mm movie camera's too but I like Leica's version the Leicina, all made in Germany as the quality is fantistic.
You'll need Regular 8mm movie film (also called "Double Run 8"). You can order it online, and some photo supply shops also have it. Send me a message and I'll give you some links to sites where you can order it.
hi. Thanks for your answhere. I have shoot one ektachrome 100D, and its for process by Dwaynes photo now. I let you know when its back. Have a nice day.
I haven't tried it in this specific camera yet, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work. I used it in a Kodak Cine 8, which is even older than this one (it's from the 1930's!) and it turned out fine.
I just bought this camera today and there is film in it. Do you know how I can see if there is anything interesting on the film and where I could take it?
Well, the film might be 30 or 40 years old, so don't get your hopes up too high. Also, unless there is some kind of label on the spool (which is unlikely) then you don't know what kind of film it is. It's probably Kodachrome film, since that was the most popular kind during that time. You'll have to send it to a lab to get it developed. Send it to Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. They have a website, but YouTube blocks links in comments. Just look it up on Google.
If you send it to Dwayne's Photo, print out an order form from their website, and just get the processing for "Double 8mm Cinechrome 40 K-14" processing. You're kind of just guessing because you don't know what kind of film it is...but it mostly likely is Kodachrome film.
Thanks! And the good news is that I just tried a roll of the new Ektachrome 100D film in a really old camera and it worked fine. I thought that these old cameras might overexpose it, because they have a slow shutter speed. But it turned out fine. So as long as it's not a super bright day, (like noon in the middle of the summer) then you should be able to use 100D in these old Brownie cameras too.
So just to confirm, you can use Ektachrome 100D Regular 8 X 25ft (for double 8 cameras) film on a Kodak Brownie 8mm movie camera? I was going to order the film from Dwayne's but I wanted to make sure that it was going to work. Thanks a lot!
yup, that is exactly the kind of film you need. Now, technically (according the "Sunny 16 Rule") the film may be overexposed in very bright conditions...like if you're shooting outside in the middle of the day during the summer. But I can tell you that I have personally used this film in an antique 8mm camera (one that was even older than the Brownie!) and it came out fine. It looked great, in fact.
One more question: I am looking at an Argus Super Eight Camera Model 704 online. It is in great condition. I am wondering what type of film I need for it. Would Ektachrome 64T Super 8 50ft work for that? And is that type of film in cartridge form? I am new to working with film with both cameras and camcorders, so I am sorry if these are painfully obvious questions. Thanks so much for your help.
No problem! I'm glad you're interested! I actually just got into shooting with vintage 8mm cameras about 2 years ago. And obviously, all these cameras were made WAY before I was even born! But yeah, Super-8 movie film is in a cartridge. (Whereas regular "double-run" 8mm film comes on spools). I'll be honest...I don't know that much about Super-8. I've only used regular 8mm.
...the problem with some Super-8 cameras is that they are auto exposure only, and you can't adjust the aperture manually. (Whereas most regular 8mm camras are completely manual exposure). I think Ektachrome 64T is actually a new film, and it might not work right with certain Super-8 cameras. I mean, the cartridge will fit and the camera will work, but the exposure might be off a little. But really, I've noticed that movie film is very forgiving anyway.
If you have no manual override, no ASA adjustment, you might just have to wing it and see what your results are. Everything may be washed out and too bright.
Misc comments--unfortunately, us hobbyists are dealing with exposure issues since the demise of Kodachrome and other movie films, in both 8mm and super 8mm. As far as exposure in concerned, you are going to have to experiment. If you have a more deluxe 8mm Camera, like a Bolex, you can completely adjust your ASA. Less expensive cameras sometimes had no adjustment, or if they did, it sometimes only went up to 40asa. The problem with using a filter is that the auto exposure will read that....
(cont) and try to compensate for it--in the wrong direction--in other words, it IS NOT going to stop down to take less light in for the faster film. What you might try to do is if you have a meter needle and a manual override, check the needle position then put it in manual and close the lens down a little to compensate for the faster film. Remember, higher the number, the faster the film, the less light you want in.
All my cameras have completely manual aperture settings, or have a manual override. I specifically wanted that because I assumed the selenium light sensors on those old cameras probably wouldn't work anymore. So I wanted to use completely manual exposure control. But yeah, with some of the older cameras the shutter speed is too slow and it might overexpose the film. But as long as you have a manual aperture, you can still use a neutral density filter.
I bought this camera NEW in Summer of 1960. Great camera & still in my collection today. Also, see my videos on YouTube from this era as they were shot with this camera.
Do they still make super 8 film? I have a super 8 camera, and there's a super 8 film projector at the thrift store as we speak. I'm gonna go buy it when I get more money, but I'd like to be able to use these devices.
oh yeah, definitely. You can order Super 8 film from the same place where I get regular 8mm (double 8) film, Dwayne's Photo. Go to their website at k14movies(dot)com. Actually, I think you can even order Super 8 directly from Kodak. Super 8 is kind of making a comeback and a lot of people are getting into it as a hobby.
Well, maybe you can't get 8mm or Super-8 film directly from Kodak anymore, but they definitely still make it, because I saw it on their website about a week ago. In fact, they had a whole page just on new Super-8 film. Maybe you just can't buy it directly from Kodak, you probably just have to order it from a dealer. But there a lot of other companies making 8mm film anyway.
Also, there are a lot of other companies besides Kodak that make movie and photographic film. You just have to look online. Everyone thinks film is "dead" but that is definitely NOT true at all. That's mostly just hype and internet rumors. I've just started taking black and white photos and developing the film and pictures myself. I haven't tried Super 8 film yet, but so far I've shot about 4 or 5 rolls of 8mm movie film. And I watch it on a real 8mm projector too :)
Hey ct92404!Like the the short demo of your 8mm camera LoL...Actualy I just baught a Bell&Howell One and NiNe ....I googled it and got some info but nothing too helpfull so maybe you can help me out,this Bell&Howell One and Nine(model number) does it support double 8mm film?also do you know if this cameras shutter speed is fast enough for the more light sentive film?Im going to order from that website you wrote about in kansas and thought I ask first before I order,Thanks In advance:)
yeah, that camera would use double 8mm film. Actually, I think I have that one too. I have a bunch of Bell and Howell cameras. Unfortunately, I just noticed that Dwayne's Photo is out of double 8 Cine Chrome (Kodachrome) movie film. So it looks like you'll have to use the 100D film. I don't know if that camera is fast enough, it might overexpose the film. But you could use a neutral density filter on the lens. Message me and we can talk more about it. I'll help if I can.
I'm kind of bummed now too...because I have a bunch of cameras that probably can't handle the new film without some kind of neutral densitiy filter. Kodak is going to stop making Kodachrome. I don't get it. They're making a new kind of film, but then stopped production of a very popular low ISO film that's great for old movie cameras. But if you got a camera with an adjustable shutter speed, or if you used a neutral density filter, you can use any speed film.
you know what would be awesome? if you could make a video of you putting the film, actually taking it out of the box and putting it in the camera, because I'm still confused with the film, that'd be pretty great. thanks! and i love the brownie movie cam! (:
this might be a dumb question but what the hell, so you can use any 8mm film? i'm trying to buy some on the internet but i'm still not sure, also thanks for teh fast response
You can buy 8mm movie film from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. Just check on their website at k14moves(dot)com. Go to "order forms" and "movie film for sale." You want regular 8mm movie film, not Super-8 for these kind of cameras. But yeah, you can use any kind of Regular 8mm movie film. The only thing is that you just have to be sure the camera can handle the speed of the film. Some kinds of 8mm film are more light sensitive and a really old camera might overexpose it.
I would use Cinechrome 40. It's actually Kodak Kodachrome film. It's a really nice, low speed color film and it will work with any of these old cameras. Unfortunately, Kodak is going to stop making Kodachrome film. But Ektachrome 100D is a good color film too, and it's actually a new film so it's not going anywhere. You can use it with a slower camera if you use a neutral densitity filter over the lens to lower the exposure. Some old cameras can handle it fine though, like Bolex cameras.
thanks for the quick reply ct92404 ...(it is a projector by the way)plus the first comment should have read splicer..HA HA! I made it sound like something you get on the shopping channel for cutting vegetables LOL!!!
i just came across an old Kodak M80-L with a universal slicer (8) still boxed.. could you give me an info on this (what year it was made,what it is worth now etc,etc) than you!
Well, I'm not an expert on these! I'm just getting into collecting old movie cameras myself. I've never heard of a Kodak M80-L. Is it a projector or a camera? Most 8mm cameras aren't worth much, especially the common mass produced brands like Kodak and Bell and Howell. I got the one in the video for about $12 with shipping! They're nice to collect, and they film good movies. But usually they aren't worth much unless it was a special or higher end camera.
Well, yeah it was an 8mm camera, but not this kind. I read that it was a Bell and Howell "Director's Series" camera. I actually have one of those too! I've shot a roll of flim with it too, so maybe I'll try to post it sometime.
Sure, go to k14movies (dot) com. They sell and develop 8mm and Super-8 film. I did see a website that sells light bulbs that will replace common light bulbs used for projectors, but I don't remember where it is.
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thanks so much for the info..I will look in to it..
lisachristine1970 5 months ago
I have some old double 8mm film that is my grandmothers from the 60's and 70's. How can I watch them or get them transferred to dvd?
lisachristine1970 5 months ago
@lisachristine1970
You can find an 8mm projector for fairly cheap. Look on eBay, or in antique shops and thrift shops. If you want to transfer the movies to DVD, there are a lot of places that will do that. One place is called Dwayne's Photo, in Parsons, Kansas. They charge $10 and they're definitely the cheapest place I've found. YouTube doesn't allow links in video comments, but just do a Google search for "Dwayne's Photo" and you'll find it.
ct92404 5 months ago
also mine says model ll and everything but looks alittle diffrent?
TheOtheriAmy 7 months ago
I bought this for 10 bucks it still workds, so how do I use it and what film do I use?
TheOtheriAmy 7 months ago
@TheOtheriAmy
You'll need to use what's called "Regular 8mm" or "Double Run 8" movie film. You can order it online. It's kind of expensive, but it's fairly easy to find. I'll send you a message.
ct92404 7 months ago
i have this same camera just bought and i cant wait to try it i bought it for 10 dollars at a garage sale
cutiepie042998 7 months ago
I have this same camera!!! It worked perfectly from the moment I bought it about 2 years ago in an antique mall. Unfortunately, it just stopped working a few nights ago without any warning :-p Maybe something in the motor is jammed, but whatever it is, hopefully I can fix it...
moneyman1934 8 months ago
that's a great thing about these cameras: a lot of them still work, because they don't use some obscure outdated battery that could corrode over 50 years, or a power cord that could short circuit or go missing and be hard to find. they're wind-up. and as long as we got opposable thumbs that's a great idea.
Ziplock74 8 months ago
Try using this in an Airport these days, and you'll have the guards on your back in no time because of the sound alone :)
AGrandt 9 months ago
can i buy it ? reply
leandri56ful 1 year ago
Should look into a Leicina Special 8mm, that's as good as it gets on super 8 camera's. I have several 8mm movie camera's too but I like Leica's version the Leicina, all made in Germany as the quality is fantistic.
oxforduniversity 1 year ago
Hows the footage?
Coconuteater23 1 year ago
How does the shutter work?
Ibringthetruth1 1 year ago
hey i have this model do i need to buy 8 mm film for it or 16mm ?? id love to start shoting with it but am unsure
halfsies23 1 year ago
@halfsies23
You'll need Regular 8mm movie film (also called "Double Run 8"). You can order it online, and some photo supply shops also have it. Send me a message and I'll give you some links to sites where you can order it.
ct92404 1 year ago
hi. Thanks for your answhere. I have shoot one ektachrome 100D, and its for process by Dwaynes photo now. I let you know when its back. Have a nice day.
superadio1 1 year ago
Hi. I have been using super 8 for some time. I have bought an old Kodak eight mod 20. Have you tried Ektachrome 100D in that camera?
superadio1 1 year ago
@superadio1
I haven't tried it in this specific camera yet, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work. I used it in a Kodak Cine 8, which is even older than this one (it's from the 1930's!) and it turned out fine.
ct92404 1 year ago
I'm trying to shoot a short film with one of these, thanks for giving this explanation on the functionalities of the camera!
BeatEmorBurnEm 2 years ago
I just bought this camera today and there is film in it. Do you know how I can see if there is anything interesting on the film and where I could take it?
MirandaK321 2 years ago
Well, the film might be 30 or 40 years old, so don't get your hopes up too high. Also, unless there is some kind of label on the spool (which is unlikely) then you don't know what kind of film it is. It's probably Kodachrome film, since that was the most popular kind during that time. You'll have to send it to a lab to get it developed. Send it to Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. They have a website, but YouTube blocks links in comments. Just look it up on Google.
ct92404 2 years ago
If you send it to Dwayne's Photo, print out an order form from their website, and just get the processing for "Double 8mm Cinechrome 40 K-14" processing. You're kind of just guessing because you don't know what kind of film it is...but it mostly likely is Kodachrome film.
ct92404 2 years ago
well if you opened the cover in light the film will now be fogged. There are lots of labs around that develop this film still.
simvid123 2 years ago
I have one of these in front of me! cool
Aum420 2 years ago
LOL...well, get some film and start shooting!
ct92404 2 years ago
Nice. I have a few of these little Brownies in my collection. There awesome little cameras to use. Thans for the demo!
compudex800 3 years ago
Thanks! And the good news is that I just tried a roll of the new Ektachrome 100D film in a really old camera and it worked fine. I thought that these old cameras might overexpose it, because they have a slow shutter speed. But it turned out fine. So as long as it's not a super bright day, (like noon in the middle of the summer) then you should be able to use 100D in these old Brownie cameras too.
ct92404 3 years ago
So just to confirm, you can use Ektachrome 100D Regular 8 X 25ft (for double 8 cameras) film on a Kodak Brownie 8mm movie camera? I was going to order the film from Dwayne's but I wanted to make sure that it was going to work. Thanks a lot!
stallionstallionpony 2 years ago
yup, that is exactly the kind of film you need. Now, technically (according the "Sunny 16 Rule") the film may be overexposed in very bright conditions...like if you're shooting outside in the middle of the day during the summer. But I can tell you that I have personally used this film in an antique 8mm camera (one that was even older than the Brownie!) and it came out fine. It looked great, in fact.
ct92404 2 years ago
One more question: I am looking at an Argus Super Eight Camera Model 704 online. It is in great condition. I am wondering what type of film I need for it. Would Ektachrome 64T Super 8 50ft work for that? And is that type of film in cartridge form? I am new to working with film with both cameras and camcorders, so I am sorry if these are painfully obvious questions. Thanks so much for your help.
stallionstallionpony 2 years ago
No problem! I'm glad you're interested! I actually just got into shooting with vintage 8mm cameras about 2 years ago. And obviously, all these cameras were made WAY before I was even born! But yeah, Super-8 movie film is in a cartridge. (Whereas regular "double-run" 8mm film comes on spools). I'll be honest...I don't know that much about Super-8. I've only used regular 8mm.
ct92404 2 years ago
...the problem with some Super-8 cameras is that they are auto exposure only, and you can't adjust the aperture manually. (Whereas most regular 8mm camras are completely manual exposure). I think Ektachrome 64T is actually a new film, and it might not work right with certain Super-8 cameras. I mean, the cartridge will fit and the camera will work, but the exposure might be off a little. But really, I've noticed that movie film is very forgiving anyway.
ct92404 2 years ago
I was just going to buy this type of camera :D Nice video
khanproductions 3 years ago
If you have no manual override, no ASA adjustment, you might just have to wing it and see what your results are. Everything may be washed out and too bright.
ToyKingWonder 3 years ago
Misc comments--unfortunately, us hobbyists are dealing with exposure issues since the demise of Kodachrome and other movie films, in both 8mm and super 8mm. As far as exposure in concerned, you are going to have to experiment. If you have a more deluxe 8mm Camera, like a Bolex, you can completely adjust your ASA. Less expensive cameras sometimes had no adjustment, or if they did, it sometimes only went up to 40asa. The problem with using a filter is that the auto exposure will read that....
ToyKingWonder 3 years ago
(cont) and try to compensate for it--in the wrong direction--in other words, it IS NOT going to stop down to take less light in for the faster film. What you might try to do is if you have a meter needle and a manual override, check the needle position then put it in manual and close the lens down a little to compensate for the faster film. Remember, higher the number, the faster the film, the less light you want in.
ToyKingWonder 3 years ago
All my cameras have completely manual aperture settings, or have a manual override. I specifically wanted that because I assumed the selenium light sensors on those old cameras probably wouldn't work anymore. So I wanted to use completely manual exposure control. But yeah, with some of the older cameras the shutter speed is too slow and it might overexpose the film. But as long as you have a manual aperture, you can still use a neutral density filter.
ct92404 3 years ago
Thanks for the educational vid !!
Is there any site listing different 8mm cameras models made thorugh the years ?
D.
mercjoe72 3 years ago
I bought this camera NEW in Summer of 1960. Great camera & still in my collection today. Also, see my videos on YouTube from this era as they were shot with this camera.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Do they still make super 8 film? I have a super 8 camera, and there's a super 8 film projector at the thrift store as we speak. I'm gonna go buy it when I get more money, but I'd like to be able to use these devices.
wilkes85 3 years ago
oh yeah, definitely. You can order Super 8 film from the same place where I get regular 8mm (double 8) film, Dwayne's Photo. Go to their website at k14movies(dot)com. Actually, I think you can even order Super 8 directly from Kodak. Super 8 is kind of making a comeback and a lot of people are getting into it as a hobby.
ct92404 3 years ago
Kodak no longer sells 8mm film.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Well, maybe you can't get 8mm or Super-8 film directly from Kodak anymore, but they definitely still make it, because I saw it on their website about a week ago. In fact, they had a whole page just on new Super-8 film. Maybe you just can't buy it directly from Kodak, you probably just have to order it from a dealer. But there a lot of other companies making 8mm film anyway.
ct92404 3 years ago
Also, there are a lot of other companies besides Kodak that make movie and photographic film. You just have to look online. Everyone thinks film is "dead" but that is definitely NOT true at all. That's mostly just hype and internet rumors. I've just started taking black and white photos and developing the film and pictures myself. I haven't tried Super 8 film yet, but so far I've shot about 4 or 5 rolls of 8mm movie film. And I watch it on a real 8mm projector too :)
ct92404 3 years ago
Hey ct92404!Like the the short demo of your 8mm camera LoL...Actualy I just baught a Bell&Howell One and NiNe ....I googled it and got some info but nothing too helpfull so maybe you can help me out,this Bell&Howell One and Nine(model number) does it support double 8mm film?also do you know if this cameras shutter speed is fast enough for the more light sentive film?Im going to order from that website you wrote about in kansas and thought I ask first before I order,Thanks In advance:)
cazz77 3 years ago
yeah, that camera would use double 8mm film. Actually, I think I have that one too. I have a bunch of Bell and Howell cameras. Unfortunately, I just noticed that Dwayne's Photo is out of double 8 Cine Chrome (Kodachrome) movie film. So it looks like you'll have to use the 100D film. I don't know if that camera is fast enough, it might overexpose the film. But you could use a neutral density filter on the lens. Message me and we can talk more about it. I'll help if I can.
ct92404 3 years ago
I'm kind of bummed now too...because I have a bunch of cameras that probably can't handle the new film without some kind of neutral densitiy filter. Kodak is going to stop making Kodachrome. I don't get it. They're making a new kind of film, but then stopped production of a very popular low ISO film that's great for old movie cameras. But if you got a camera with an adjustable shutter speed, or if you used a neutral density filter, you can use any speed film.
ct92404 3 years ago
can you post how you load the camera please
bmtimv 3 years ago
you know what would be awesome? if you could make a video of you putting the film, actually taking it out of the box and putting it in the camera, because I'm still confused with the film, that'd be pretty great. thanks! and i love the brownie movie cam! (:
murderousbusiness 3 years ago
Sure, I could do that. It's actually really easy to load. In fact, those Kodak Brownie cameras are probably the easiest ones to load.
ct92404 3 years ago
this might be a dumb question but what the hell, so you can use any 8mm film? i'm trying to buy some on the internet but i'm still not sure, also thanks for teh fast response
anyway looking forward for your video (:
murderousbusiness 3 years ago
You can buy 8mm movie film from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons, Kansas. Just check on their website at k14moves(dot)com. Go to "order forms" and "movie film for sale." You want regular 8mm movie film, not Super-8 for these kind of cameras. But yeah, you can use any kind of Regular 8mm movie film. The only thing is that you just have to be sure the camera can handle the speed of the film. Some kinds of 8mm film are more light sensitive and a really old camera might overexpose it.
ct92404 3 years ago
I would use Cinechrome 40. It's actually Kodak Kodachrome film. It's a really nice, low speed color film and it will work with any of these old cameras. Unfortunately, Kodak is going to stop making Kodachrome film. But Ektachrome 100D is a good color film too, and it's actually a new film so it's not going anywhere. You can use it with a slower camera if you use a neutral densitity filter over the lens to lower the exposure. Some old cameras can handle it fine though, like Bolex cameras.
ct92404 3 years ago
thanks for the quick reply ct92404 ...(it is a projector by the way)plus the first comment should have read splicer..HA HA! I made it sound like something you get on the shopping channel for cutting vegetables LOL!!!
lukessummer 4 years ago
i just came across an old Kodak M80-L with a universal slicer (8) still boxed.. could you give me an info on this (what year it was made,what it is worth now etc,etc) than you!
lukessummer 4 years ago
Well, I'm not an expert on these! I'm just getting into collecting old movie cameras myself. I've never heard of a Kodak M80-L. Is it a projector or a camera? Most 8mm cameras aren't worth much, especially the common mass produced brands like Kodak and Bell and Howell. I got the one in the video for about $12 with shipping! They're nice to collect, and they film good movies. But usually they aren't worth much unless it was a special or higher end camera.
ct92404 4 years ago
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt this the kind of camera that recorded JFKs assasination?
Cosmicalex13 4 years ago
Well, yeah it was an 8mm camera, but not this kind. I read that it was a Bell and Howell "Director's Series" camera. I actually have one of those too! I've shot a roll of flim with it too, so maybe I'll try to post it sometime.
ct92404 4 years ago
sweet
Cosmicalex13 4 years ago
Thanks! I will try this.
riley501111 4 years ago
Can you tell me the website that sells the 8mm film? I'm also looking for a bulb for an antique 8mm movie projector.
riley501111 4 years ago
Sure, go to k14movies (dot) com. They sell and develop 8mm and Super-8 film. I did see a website that sells light bulbs that will replace common light bulbs used for projectors, but I don't remember where it is.
ct92404 4 years ago
You can also just do a Google search for "Dwayne's Photo" in Parsons, Kansas. It's the same company.
ct92404 4 years ago