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  • waiting..........

  • Here we go again, "Obama is so smart................" blah blah blah.

    Why then is he doing the same things Bush did?

    Why is there no jobs after the stimulus?

    Why did the "Cash for Clunkers" program benefit mostly foreign auto makers? Didn't think that through, did ya? Why couldn't he have said it would be for american cars?

    Why didn't he just give the money to the people? Every TAX PAYING citizen could have gotten a LOT of money to pay off their house, car, loans etc.

  • I agree with you that he's doing the things that Bush has done, but why oh why does O continue to bash him so much? I find that startling, And the fact that he's pushing in Afghanistan and pulling out of Iraq, that doesn't seem like change to me, same shit done, just a different yard to play in

  • Because he is a FreeMason. . . hahaha . . .Fooled by destiny that is Bushes

  • 400ASS: The reason foreign car companies are making out like bandits when it comes to gas-saving and low emission cars is b/c AMERICA DOESN'T BUILD ANY! All this country builds is gas-guzzlers that produce the highest numbers of emissions than any automotive industry in the world! It's time we take a page from foreign car builders. It's time we make economic cars that run on less fossil fuels, more green energy, and produce less emissions, then the US car companies will prosper.

  • the people selling those cars are american car dealers are they not?

  • Are you serious? for American car dealers only HAHAH yeah because that is free market at its best.. just admit that american automakers are shit and are behind on the times we should have been at 30 mpg 30 years ago it is pathetic... instead we would rather pull a jet with a truck GO AMERICA WOOOT!

  • Obama is the worst pres this country has ever had. He has put us into debt, 10x more than Reagan and 12x more than Bush, and hes only getting started!

    A91 your name calling makes me suspect that you cant argue a point without getting hysterical.

    Obama wants to unify the planet, but hes dividing the country. Interesting.

    Please provide proof of YOUR claims.

    Why is O pushing for socialist health care?

    Why does O want an internal armed force equal in strength to the military?

  • 10x more than Reagan and 12x more than Bush? I don't believe those figures are correct.

    I'll ask you to "Please provide proof of YOUR claims" as you state above.

  • I agree with recompile. 400ASS, prove your point on how Obama is splitting the country and taking over the world? You're full of it and you know it; that's why you don't give facts, only unsubstantiated conjecture that comes from the inner workings of a deluded mind.

  • Allegedly, under Obama our national debt will almost double, from a balance of $10.6 trillion to $19 trillion, roughly 180%.

    Under Ronald Reagan the debt more than doubled, roughly an increase of 270%. When the four years of George H.W. Bush are added, the debt increased 430% in 12 years.

  • Obama inherited the longest recession since the Great Depression of 1929. His spending is geared towards an economic recovery and rebuilding faith in our system. At home and abroad. Plus a Global War on Terror, a ground war in Afghanistan, and the stabilization of Iraq.

    Reagan and Bush didnt face any problem worth spit by comparison.

  • Like I said, Google. Use it and come to me with proof. As far as the "cousins" thing, first you deny it. Now you downplay it. Obama has put this country into massive debt, more than Bush did in his whole tenure. Obama is pro globalization. He even speaks for this "world order" that he believe everyone wants. Obama is a slick. He said he would end the war in Iraq only to further conflict in afghanistan and the middle east. He continues to preach the boogeyman "terrorist" word like it's in style.

  • yes. Earth.

    Got a life, thanks. Destroyed? So you admit it doesn't exist? There is no birth certificate or copy. There is an "official" document that states that there is a document. This is neither the birth certificate, nor a copy of the birth certificate. Merely a document stating something. It proves nothing. So I ask you again, provide proof. It ain't hard bro. Just like I proved to you that obama and bush were cousin. Remember, when I proved you WRONG? Forgot already? google. Use it.

  • thats where you are wrong buddy!

    bush and obama both could give a shit less about any of you!

    they both are interested in one thing-consolidating power and securing their legacy.

    if any of you idiots believe that obama or bush stand firm on idiological, or moral highgound-you are incurabley ignorant!

    both are vermin that seek to exploit fear and subjigate the masses!

    they are brothers in the truest sense of the word-you are just too blinded by selfimportance to see it!

  • excuse me? This is the something you've been proven wrong about and you show your character by not owning up to it. besides that, Now I ask you to provide proof is his birth certificate. Not a document saying theres a birth certificate. I want proof. I await your proof. It will probably take as long as ur apology. Never.

  • there's a big difference from 8th cousins and a faggot ass like you. There is no way you and I are related in that sense. You're too stupid to be related to me. I know how much you envy me. I know how much you want to be like me but I'm sorry, you can't. It's not your fault. Blame you whore mother. Ohh I get it know. That's where you learned to suck obama's dick from. You're whore mom. And yes I am serious.

  • bush and obama are cousins. Your counter argument: ALIENS ZOMGS!||!! Now tell me who is the stupid one. I don't see how that could be a counter argument. faggot. Calling me pathetic? LMAO. look whos talking.

  • wow. praying on the ignorant and uneducated to rally their support. pathetic. check out the costs of al gores electric bills for his home alone.... shocking.

  • preying. you idiot.

  • Al Gore supports Cap and Tirade.... He's the enemy too.

  • Yeah you are really pathetic. Do myself a favor? I thought we were debating here? Get a life? Right. Look whos talking Mr. Med student who spends all his time on youtube riding obama's dick.

  • Move on to what? A more statist regime? Great.

  • You voted for Obama to: Get health care, end torture, end a war, save the environment.

    I would be surprised if you get even one out of four.

  • damn i hate Al Gore

    he is such a Liar and Bullshit Talker

  • Good, you're learning. See? Who said that you were wasting your money in college? Now ass kiss and apologize.... You're almost there. Then we can move on.

  • Cousins, I loved move on exposing the criminality of the Bush admin. At some point though, is not the Obama admin equally responsible for not prosecuting war crimes ? .. and what about this bank heist ? move on you say ?

  • oh really, I said Obama and Bush were cousins. You said that was a lie. I gave proof. You downplay. Tell me what was not "factual" about that? Like I said, if you are too stubborn to admit that you were wrong, there's no point in arguing with you. You clearly have you mind made up and no amount of "facts' will change it. And its a shame you can't get an education in humility. That would take you further in life.

  • obama supporters are so adorable. keep living in your fantasy.

  • Once again, Al has made me think they are a lot crazy. They might be good, but ....

  • Just lovely - a flipping fight fest on line too! So it seems "the devil(s)" have got you all insanely fighting - so who is really payng attention to the issues and the details? leaving it all up to the politicitians and lobbyists, are ya?

    that is dumb no matter who got elected.

    keep name caling & instigating hate -

    a 5 year old can do that, you know!

  • Get a brain? LMAO! Your going to be a doctor and you are telling me to get a brain? That's so hilarious. Moot point. Yeah I was wrong, it bumped up to 56%. There I said it, I was wrong. Sorry. So you and 56% of Americans are still in love with him. That means ONLY 44% hate him. It's funny cuz you were the one that said it didn't matter. Well, to me, it does matter and having 44% disaproval is still very high in my eyes.

  • Ok, it is clear to me that this information will not get through to your thick head. You can downplay my education all you want. Fact is, I PWNED you. You had to resort to name calling, downplaying, and self arguing. Feel sorry for my offspring? LOL, I forgot to mention personal attacks.

  • Yeah, it's called owning up to your own mistakes. You asked me to provide proof and I did. When you get cornered, you downplay the situation. That is revealing of your character flaw. I am not embarrassing myself. The fact that I haven't made an error proves this. If I do make an error, I will own up to it. No all of a sudden my links are somehow invalid? okay buddy, keep dreaming.

  • ahset: you're uneducated and have a skewed view point as a result. not your fault, but stay out of the conversation until you can add something constructive.

    Global Warming: are you a climate change specialist? I am. What exactly don't you agree with? Tell me, I'm interested to hear what Middle America thinks.

    Obama's Birth Certificate: That's important to you??? Not his policies? He's PRESIDENT!!! He's there to stay. Deal with it. Talk about issues,not about some meaningless piece of paper.

  • talking about me staying out of the conversation? Where the fuck did you come from? Where were you these last 5 pages? Thanks for making a fool out of yourself, made my job easier.

  • not taking anything from you, but my being JUST a HS grad, I think you need some more education. The post history is still up people. Just look at how he presents himself. I hope you didn't pay too much for that "education" of yours. If you want, I can teach you how to debate. Free of charge. Tip, double check facts before you post. Second tip, don't downplay them when you are proven wrong. Third, don't make arguments no one was arguing. last, stop sucking obama's dick and get a real ediucation.

  • I made an error, his approval rating is now below 50%. So you are now the minority. Okay continue. Boasting about being the majority means nothing now? flip flopping. Gotcha. Downplaying seems to be your only tactic. You downplayed my "cousins" argument, you haven't touch my, birth certificate, and now you are downplaying his creds when you yourself said you were a med STUDENT. Wow. You also know how REAL economists think? Looks like the only think you don't know is how to say "i was wrong"

  • Proof. google "purchasing power of the dollar" click on the first link. Enter $500 and the year 1975 in the first text box. Then 2008 in the second box. $500 dollars in 1975 has the same purchasing power as $1999.47 in 2008. Conclusion: Inflation. Btw, calling me dumb, stupid, idiotic, and whatnot makes you look great as a med student. Especially since I've provided links when you belittle my statements comparing my statements to "aliens" or whatever you pull out of your ass.

  • It did not always work. It only created an illusion that has worked. Here is my counter. Inflation. The purchasing power of the US dollar has decreased in the past decade. More so than ever. The euro is now stronger than the dollar and the canadian dollar is stronger. China and Russia has threaten to standardize their own currency backed by gold. The federal reserve failed to produce M3 reports this year. The reports show how strong the dollar is by showing how much is in circulation.

  • ok, here is my facts to support my claim. In order to bailout GM, banks, Fanny/freddie, etc, we must have a source of money. That source of money is either by tax or created by the federal reserve. If it is from taxes, then that means the entity that is benefiting becomes more socialized. A for profit car company is now further nationalized. If that source is created from the Federal Reserve, it will create inflation. If half a trillion is created in less than 100 days, hyperinflation. Happy?

  • Avenger, so instead of apologizing and saying that I was right, you water down my statement and say we are all related. Cool. As a med student? Does that suppose to qualify you as anything? And why are you talking about his profession? I didn't bring it up? You are creating arguments that no one is arguing about. As a med student? Hmmm, aren't med students suppose to be smart? Why did you get own by a HS grad? People, post history is up. When you get cornered, ignore the question or downplay it.

  • Did you google Obama cousins with Bush and Cheney yet? Still waiting for that apology. watch?v=Yw3G9t596gQ

    keep searching. Tons out there. Still waiting for your dick sucking lips to apologize.

  • It's not been proven. The only document that was produce was a letter saying that there was a document. We want the original document. If I wrote a letter saying Saddam had WMD's, does that mean he really had WMD's? No. WMD's are the proof. We want the birth certificate, not a paper saying there was a birth certificate. Idiot.

    25) go on to 100. Making money out of thin air to fix a problem only makes the problem worse. You know how the purchasing power of the dollar has weakened? Inflation.

  • Dr. Paul and Kucinich are the only people brave enough to tackle the real problem, the federal reserve. You think we are doing better with Obama? Ok, keep dreaming. Like I said, please save my username. I expect an apology in 6 months. Oh and with all these lists, you still haven't addressed the issue on NOT bringing our troops back. faggots like you jump on 55% approval rating and think that means you're right? LMAO. So almost half of Americans disagree with his policies and it doesn't matter?

  • 1090048952385, These ARE just companies. If these company want to be successful like the rest of them, here's a thought. Why don't they just make better cars? I'm sorry, is that hard for YOU to understand? Saying that they are too big to fail is completely idiotic. They are being rewarded for incompetence and you are first in line with donations. Sorry, me and millions of others are sick of it. We don't buy foreign cars because we are un-American, we buy them because they are not crap.

  • you sound half way educated...now find out whats really going on .

    your insults make your argument sound so ridiculous yet you think you know exactly whats going on and that obama actually runs something .

    he like the can you here me now guy ..just a smiling face .

    seems like the co2 global warming scam has worked on you just as they planed .

  • look in the mirror ....

  • go ahead and believe your controllers .

    I dont disagree that the earth is being destroyed by humans .

    but global warming is due to the sun getting hotter .

    was there an ice age yes ..why because of a natural cycle that takes thousands of years .

  • Like I said, the facts are open to the public. Talking about bigotry, you're one to talk comparing facts to aliens.

  • google "obama related to bush". Credible souces are listed. There's even a video of Obama admitting this on youtube. Please know some facts before you talk. Call me a "birther"? How about I label you an "idiot"? See how labels make you look? Please, look it up. I'll wait for an apology. Birth certificate was never produced.

  • economy 101, printing money out of thin air causes inflation. Spending half a trillion in less than 100 days in office causes hyperinflation. You can't fix a recession by printing more money. Recessions cleans the economy of waste. GM is a company of waste. Bad companies fail and Obama gave no incentive for US business to suceed. After GM got the bailout, more followed AIG put their hands out.

  • I never brought political parties into this debate, you did. Therefore, you put words in my mouth, you can scroll down and read it. Our economy was going down every since Clinton opened trade with china allowing big corps outsource US goods. Propping up failing companies only made it worse. People predicted that the bailout would not help and after they got the money, they still filled for bankruptcy and the US tried to clean up with car zsar and socilalizing the industry.

  • We sold out to N Korea.

  • this halfrican can't even come up with a real birth certificate. It's okay people, Hawaii says it exists. well lets see it. Meanwhile, no one seems to care that he's related to Bush. In his words, he thinks everyone would want this "world order" he dreams about. Obama is a fake, a phoney, and you're just a stan, hopelessly mesmerized by his "change" talk. But what do I know? Seems like you got him pretty much figured. I hope we can have this talk in a few month and see if you're still dick ridin

  • When this halfrican was chosen during this selection, he had you fool mesmerized by the hope and "change" mantra. Things changed alright. We are deeper in debt because of him. After being put into office, he spent more money than any other president propping up GM, fanny/freddie, banks. Meanwhile he MOVED troops to afghanistan when the country wants him to pull them all out. His apporval ratings dropped to 55 percent, the lowest it's ever been. While GM continue to make shitty cars, keep buying

  • you again? cool are you ready for another verbal beating? Oh you left out the troops. How convenient. So we are back on track now right? Gonna get Bin Laden right? More brown people are gonna die and we are winning this war on terror! Gonna give more money to failing companies to... ahem... "get rid of some of their debts." Meanwhile we are paying for it. Quote me where I said republicans are evil? You can't. Put some more words in my mouth. You can. Get obama's dick out of your mouth and listen

  • complete bullshit

  • you FOOL! Next time get your facts straight before you type. Al Queda? You mean TALIBAN! And the US funded Al Queda FYI. Show me how GM "came back". Last time I checked they were begging the Chinese to buy off their shitty Hummer line and they refused citing, get this, "environmental hazards"! Excuse me for using incorrect semantics. Let's get a second opinion. What does "bankruptcy" mean to the rest of you guys? Get them GM transformers' cocks out of ur mouth. You're disgusting.

  • You always see moveon being labeled an extremist organization. It will be interesting to see another perspective.

  • this is porpaganda, Obama is no different than bush. He said he was going to end the war, yet he just moved troops into afghanistan. He gave banks, fanny/freddie money. He bailed out GM and they STILL went out of business. Don't buy into this bs.

  • Americans deserve to have the same single-payer system that everyone else has around the world--high quality and low cost--but if we have to go with the public option as an intermediary step, then so be it.

    People who can't tell the difference between Dick Cheney and Barack Obama (!) are just deranged.

  • Obama is working within the system as it exists, working to save and economy that completely collapsed, fighting a real enemy in Afghanistan.

    The best way to see how good Obama is for this country is to look at the enemies arrayed against him: corporations and organizations and extremely wealthy individuals who care about no one but themselves.

  • Right-wing millionaires and billionaires vs. us, the American People.

    The reason even Barack Obama can't change Washington overnight is that right-wing influence is pervasive. Polls show that many voters actually believe the nonsense that the right-wing pumps out every day.

    We all have a lot of work to do.

    America CAN be saved but it's not going to be easy.

  • They have built a pervasive right-wing media running from AM radio (Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh) to the web (WorldNetDaily and thousands of right-wing propaganda blogs) to television Fox "News" and Morning Joe to newspapers (Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal) all fed with sinister talking points pumped out by the RNC.

    Right-wing think tanks like the Heritage Foundation pump out phony "scholars" and the right is even attempting to take over American universities.

    It's a civil war.

  • The fact is that there is a bizarre right-wing movement in this country financed by men whose fathers were billionaires and who therefore have millions to give away to fight against liberal democracy.

  • If Gore backs it, it's probably a hoax.

  • The system President Obama inherited is a corrupt system across so many industries. You can't make massive changes without Congressional and public support. You have to do it incrementally. Let's say you pump gas, but you want to change your life and become a lawyer or something like that. It's going to take you 6 years to do that, plus several years more to get out of debt, It's worth it, but it takes time.

  • MoveOn is undemocratic. They have a group of liberal elites who dictate policies to a moderately liberal population. They claim to be for peace, environmental awareness, transparency. But MoveOn is largely uncritical of Obama's policies. Moveon's followers drink the kool-aid and feel they are part of a grassfoots movement.

    Grassroot movements are from the bottom up, not top down. MoveOn is an advertising wing of the democrat party. They fool liberals into supporting the status quo.

  • well put

  • Of course, Obama is like Bush and that is why Fox News has been trying to derail him for years. That's why the Republican Party has been attacking him non-stop and trying to thwart his every move. It's a fact that Republicans and groups posing as Democrats are trying to take all the frustration from Bush and impose it on Obama. Talking with Iran, taxing the rich, pushing for a public option, investing in education and alternate energy, yeah, just like Bush. Liars.

  • No doubt, Fox News is a republican propaganda network. But the differences between Obama and Bush are not that much. You say Obama wants to Tax the rich. True, but its only 3% more than what it was before. The public option is being watered down in congress, and Obama has catered to the insurance industries, meeting with insur. execs. 15 times. The alternative energies he is investing in is Clean Coal. Thats hardly a radical departure from Bush.

    We need real change. obama is not real change.

  • Actually MoveOn has recently been very critical of Obama's policies. They worked to get him elected, of course. But now, they are applying pressure from the left for many of the reasons you name, the public option, "clean coal," taxes on the rich, dont forget the war in Iraq, and his inaction on gay rights.

    We must work hard to drive the country to the left, by simply telling the truth, the facts, history, science. The American people are already there. We just have to work on the Senate now.

  • If Michael Moore is in it then it has to be mostly the truth. They found out that senate and congress were trying to slam that sicko movie because it was the truth. Watch SICKO by Micheal Moore.

  • All of these vids are the same preview with just a different interview put in. WTF?

  • an also rate this video 1 star

  • anyone who watches this video that knows global warming is a lie and a tool to enslave us please unsubscribe with me because this channel supports them.

  • Lol you're an idiot if you think global warming is a lie. It is supported by a load of scientific research you douche.

  • But everything is the same! I don't get these people.

  • All those happy people are going to really pissed when they find out Obama is an agent of Wall Street.

    watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    What does a Trillion dollars look like: watch?v=LFRxiX0pQl4

  • To bad they picked the same old people in charge. When will they realize that Dems & Reps are the same party pretending to be enemies?

  • Al Gore?

    I would rather be waterboarded than endorsed by Al Gore.

  • Wow great a movie about the movement for fake change.

  • r u shitting me fake change o so u think that the wars bush had where good r u fucking kidding me

  • i didnt say that but i dont believe in obama messiah theory..he is doing the same things bush did just with a left marketing strategy! So yea fake change!! Keeping patriot act? no problem...no signing statements?..my ass lol it cant get faker than that...But he still has lemmings following him.

  • if he did keep the patriot act it got changed the old stupid bills that didnt pass got taken out and as for that other he isnt signing stuff caz its the republicans that r giving him shit he did close gwantimo bay so he has passed some stuff

  • the patriot act is still in full swing.

  • i dont think so caz i think it got changed if its even existent any more caz i no that they tried to change it but the republicans where being bitchs bout it and if its not i bet he will get rid of it when he can

  • He renewed the patriot act..there is no excuse for that. There r other detention camps besides gitmo.Closing Gitmo is just for public relations matters .he endorses indefinite detention without trial for some which is even worse than bush.Pervasive Surveillance is continued under obama...i could go on and on..Its always the same thing once "ur guy"(either rep or dem) is in office people r quick too look the other way.

  • Obama and Bush are like Coke and Coke zero.

    Pretty much the same thing and neither are really good for you, but most people prefer the black one.

  • no it was caz there was no reason for it to be open it was illigal and he didnt renew the patriot act as it was he renewed it with revises so it wasnt as bad

  • Thanks Move On for sticking with Obama even after he signed the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, reneged on the windfall profit tax for oil companies, and defended the Defense of Marriage Act.

    You stuck by him when he kept his foot down against single payer health care, voted the billions in no strings attached bailouts for high CEO paychecks, increased troop levels in Afghanistan, and held his promise to increase the military budget.

    We knew we could count on you, Move On!

  • obama i dont think signed that i no that it was extremely long and had a bunch of old acts that failed put into it

  • Obama did sign the reauthorization of the Patriot Act. He also gave the telecommunication companies immunity over Bush's wiretapping program. This is all available to look up.

    Thanks again, Move On!

  • i no some of the places that had wiretapping did get into trouble but the problem with others is where they where located and stuff and the patriot act changed when he signed it to make it so there was no more profiling and stuff and the republicans hated that it got changed

  • Tell the peace groups that, the ones that are repeatedly spied on without warrants and treated like terrorists. This is what Obama and Move on are supporting.

  • no its not thats what republicans do the move on is to stop things like that u dolt

  • voted for the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, I meant to say. As a senator

  • Republicans are people who think Jesus would be against healthcare for the poor but would be for everyone owning a gun.

  • the left right paradigm is part of the divide and conquer .

    fuck al gore and the global warming global tax scam .

    bush should be arrested along with criminals is Washington.

    god this country has been over run by murderers with suits .

  • Agreed. Move On folks will find their hero's like the Liar Al Gore are the same villains found on the right.

  • global warming isnt a tax scam just caz fox news thinks that dosent mean fox accually thinks that they even put up subblimtal messaging in there shows like king of the hill and stuff they even addmitted to that so stop watching media lies

  • global warming is an enslavement scam to run your life .

    and I hate faux news more than you do ..

    be a leader not a follower !

  • So how do you people feel about Obama appointing the vice president of Monsanto to be food safety czar? and Monsanto lobbyist Tom Vilsack to head the USDA? How do you feel about Obama expanding the wars instead of ending them? The first thing he did was send 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

    If you voted for Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich or Cynthia McKinney the troops would be home by now and 25 trillion dollars of your tax dollars would not have gone to the richest bankers in the country.

  • I wil be the first in line to see this movie.

  • I like Move on but PDA is better

  • looking to see this come out

  • Let´s get ready toooooooooooooooooooooo RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE !!!

  • You now owe Michael Buffer a shit-ton of money.

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