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  • Where is the scenario for controlled demolition?

    Search: watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

  • and the police cars and fire engines in New York are like match sticks, it only takes a spark to make them go up in flames and start to melt....

  • Don't argue with ignorants, idiots. They'll pull You to their level, then they defeat You by experience on this field.

  • Just one small detail...what about the resistance below, you know that other 45,000 tons of construction material ? W.T.C's 1, 2 & 7 were pre-wired and brought down under human control. Beyon a shadow of doubt and within the bounds of reality ! Wake up America..be heard ! 

  • one little problems with the 'pancake theory'... the walls never bowed inwards like you claim.... the beams bent OUTWARDS....you know like they would in an EXPLOSION.... LMAO you people are clowns for not believing what is right in front of your faces.... how many more scientists have to say nano-thermite was found in the dust all around the WTC complex for you all to believe BOMBS were involved

  • 1200-foot-diameter debris field: no "pancaked" floors found

    Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front

    Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame

    Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises

    Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples

    Evidence of explosives found in dust samples

    And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist The LEAST RESISTANCE path of a LEANING and SLIDING tower top involved SLIDING DOWN the unbroken internal columns & being forced to recover an upright position as it fell "Improbable symmetry" See above "rapid onset" The collapse began very slowly 20 min before "reported explosions & flashes" Fires make these occasionally "sections ejected" That is the way buckling happens "pulverization" Is done by hammer blows. Were they a rarity? "pyroclastic" Yes. A lot of concrete dust.
  • @TheCompleteGuitarist "no pancaked floors" i100. photobucket. com/albums/m18/JazzRoc/pancake­. jpg remove spaces "explosive ejections" Piston effect "dismemberment" A low-redundancy long-span building collapses like that "Several tons" Potential energy of tower equivalent to 481 tons of molten iron "thermite incendiaries/explosives" Friction microspherules and paint dust "not like fire" But like COLLAPSE "the path of greatest resistance" Was certainly not DOWNWARDS, then?
  • @TheCompleteGuitarist Everything on the list (a familiar rant) has a natural explanation. There is nothing on it that shouldn't be there simply as a natural consequence of the building's collapse, which was NOT SUDDEN

    U have to pretend it was in spite of obvious evidence on this video disproving this, just as U pretend that all the heat in the basement couldn't have originated from the tower's PE

    ae911truth hides it 2

    But since when has ANY controlled demolition EVER begun 20 minutes previously?

  • Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration

    Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

    Extremely rapid onset of destruction

    Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes

    Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally

    Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

    Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

  • Life would be so easy if it was in 2D....

  • While you might think this a plausible solution, and even if it did occur, it would not be enough to explain why the building fell to the ground on it's own footprint at virtually free fall speed with no resistance. Under such circumstances as illustrated in the video a building might fall, but it would do so over hours or days and very sporadically and unsymetrically and would leave a lot of large chucks and floors on the ground. The towers were probably pulverised by thermite.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist You are severely underestimating the amount of force involved here. Do you realize that, for the south tower, for the upper floors to free fall the distance of a single floor would cause it to impact the floor below with a force 30 times its own weight? 20 inches of free fall is all that is necessary for a collapse to become inevitable. This is a skyscraper with a unique design, not a small building with a handful of floors.

  • @InvernessMoon Masonary and steel structures flew OUT of the building at 70mph, only explosives can do that.

    Even if the weight of the building above were enough to collapse the whole building, it would not fall at free fall speed all the way down, each impact would add some resistance. We would also see evidence of this collapse at the bottom of the structure. All that remained was pulverised concrete and a lot of molten steel. I'm not an architect or engineer but I am not stupid.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist "only explosives can do that" - No. Buckling does that

    "it would not fall at free fall speed" - It didn't

    "I'm not an architect or engineer but I am not stupid" - Seems you are. The simplest of sums prove there was enough potential energy in the buildings to heat the steel

    Are you an Alex Hutchins on guitar? I hope so

  • @beachcomber2008 No I am not Alex Hutchins, I am me.

    A building designed to take multiple fuel loaded plane impacts falls at 'near' free fall speed as if it had no resistance below, falls into it's own footprint, except that everything is mysteriously pulverized and visual evidence of molten steel suggests thermite as well as actual eveidence of thermite in the pulverized concrete. Many explosions witnessed aurally and evident in all videos.

    But hey, it's not my government shafting me ;)

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist "it's not my government shafting me" . No, it's plain old U

    The energy required to raise the buildings was all there 2B released upon collapse

    That's 3.9*e9 joules, 111,000 kW hrs, sufficient to melt 500 tons of steel

    Anyone can hammer concrete to dust with a sledgehammer

    Spherules are made by FRICTION, and there was a lot of that when 100 floors SLID down 50 columns

    Many things explode in fires. When a bolt is snapped it makes an explosive noise

    All collapses were natural.

  • @beachcomber2008 Why do you feel the necessity to be insulting? Isn't your argument strong enough without having to resort to that?

    I'm not convinced by your retorts. But I am convinced when I see the top of a very hugh building that is leaning to one side and looking as if it is going to fall in that direction suddenly change it's path and fall vertically down.

    At the very least you want to ask yourself why the forensic evidence was removed so quickly and not analysed.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist Well, it makes me angry when intelligent people are berated by the unintelligent, the schoolhouse being overrun by dunces with megaphones

    "suddenly change it's path and fall vertically down" - That's a punctuation mistake in there. It changed its path because the unbroken central columns still had a sliding location with the floors, which HAD to slide down them

    "the forensic evidence was removed so quickly and not analysed" - Four hundred pieces were retained and analyzed

  • @beachcomber2008 you are, no, you ARE funny. I am going to remove that apostrophe before the forensic team move in because obviously it's such a heinous error. Glad to have wasted your time.

  • @InvernessMoon ae911truthDOTorg plenty of very qualified people over there arguing the point.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist "plenty of very qualified people over there arguing the point" - Or blocking people they disagree with

  • @beachcomber2008 Why would they do that? Do you perhaps think the are all commies? (as they coin the phrase in the united states), or perhaps they are middle eastern terrorist sympathizers? Somehow I doubt it. They have nothing to gain and no other reason to question original findings other than in their qualified and experienced opinions they see something that does not coincide with the original investigations. They are not even making any allegations beyond their professional opinions.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist "Why would they do that?" - Why don't you ask them

    "They are not even making any allegations beyond their professional opinions" - They most certainly are

    making them beyond their professional capabilities, which are very low

    A schoolboy's calculation shows them to be wrong in their opinion as to the origin of the heat in the basement

    Which they have admitted - then concealed & denied

    They also deny alternative ways microspheres are made

    That's not the way of truth, is it?

  • why wasnt the heat distributed through the entire steel structure?

    

  • hahah!!! some people think that by adding numbers, graphic lines and animation will make a clip looking like a some laboratory investigation... right :)

  • hahah!!! some people think that by adding numbers, graphic lines and animation will make a clip looking like a some laboratory investigation... right

  • This video is bullshit and totally worthless.

  • @azar783402 You have no facts, you have no brain. That's the truth.

  • @azar783402 ROFL, I never claimed you did say that. Typical troofer, making up things already. I really can't be bothered to get into another debate over the same bullshit claims I've been over with other troofers before, and considering you are be far the most retarded I've met so far, I'm even less inclined. You believe what you want, so you can fight your imaginary war against the evil shape shifting lizards and Jews, and add some meaning to your otherwise insignificant life. Sad little turd.

  • @azar783402 You seem to have left out the small detail of two jumbo jets travelling nearly 600mph hitting the towers beforehand. It doesn't surprise me that someone as retarded as yourself failed to notice that. Still, that's why people like you will only ever be irrelivant dumb fucks who believe complete bullshit that has no factual backing at all. The 911 troof movement is as dead as the cells in your brain, only the really pathetic ones like yourself still remain.

  • @azar783402 Took you a full 24 hours to think of that one, don't wear yourself out! Only lies can be debunked by the way, I've yet to see you even try and debunk this video. But then again I'd hardly expect you to, judging by the quality of your posting I'd see it's pretty clear that your IQ falls well below the requierd threshold to even attempt it. It would also explain why you readily believe in the bullshit you do. Only the particularly retarded troofers still believe in 911 conspiracies.

  • @azar783402 See, told you troofers hate troof!

  • 23 troofers hate troof!

  • Those of you who oppose the truth movement are actively supporting the elite's agenda and I doubt you notice... I really want to know why you guys insist on your point of view. Does all of your small talk result in your satisfaction? Are you trying to extinguish ideas that may oppose the families' interests? So are we. Are you trying to be patriotic or allegiant to your country? So are we. Are you afraid that everything you've believed so far (and based your identity on) is a lie? So were we.

  • che fantasia !!!

  • music fits very well.. seriously, kinda spooky

  • Why is it that all of these floor collapse scenerios leave out all the cross beams?

    There was a lot more to it than the floors hooked to the perimeter columns with bolts.

  • @12Weasel

    Looks like you are dodging the hard questions and evidence just like NIST and the Commision. I want your views on nano-thermite, molten metal, 1100 victims never found. where did all this energy came that turned all this concrete in to dust allready in start of "collapse" and further on. All three buildings had freefall acceleration like there was no resistance below. Why NIST does not release its computer simulation data. Reply in private message because there is alot to talk.

  • I am not beliving in that, i know that it was a conspiracy because i have looked in to both theorys and wich evidence fits best to it.I do not refuse to listen offical theory or any other hypothesis, i have listened to them and looking forward to listen to them. But you are the one who is believing in offical theory and refuse to look at hard evidence like nano thermite, molten metal, 1100 victims not found(no piece large enough for dna) almost all the concrete turned in to fine powder and so on

  • @12Weasel

    Your comment is so richful with information and intelligence that i do not know where to start even. I think you are not educated enough to see trough offical explanation wich projects towers in 2 dimensions, so we live on flat earth again?

  • @12Weasel weasel is a faggot who works for the government who is part of the cover up and disinformation campaign,

  • Pure crap and iles. Your going to hell for being part of the evil.

  • this video sucks!!!! doesn't show shit. if you want to prove the os at least show a better pic than that. the outside facade of the building was concrete concrete does not sag it cracks ask any enginner or construction worker. what you are seeing is an optical illusion brought about by the perspective of the pic. even if the steel sagged in the structure spalling would have occured first.(big chunks flying out of the facade). i have noticed none of this in the videos i have seen.

  • now do a simulation using explosives................hang on, why do that when we've got actual footage!

  • That is such a deceptive animation. Show the cross trusses!!!! It's not as simple as it's been made to look, not by a longshot. These floors don't just "pop off" or "unclick", besides there are FOUR SIDES that would all have to do this simultaneously! If one floor were to fall onto the next, it wouldn't perfectly land putting perfect pressure on the next AND on every side of the building, it's an impossible scenario.

  • Inside job!

  • Kritik beide Szenarien betreffend:

    Wenn sich ein Material unter Hitze ausdehnt, dann wird es logischerweise länger, ABER auf keinem Fall schwerer, als im Normalzustand. Masse bleibt gleich schwer, egal ob bei Hitze oder Kälte!

    Wenn sich die Etagenkonstruktionen unter Hitze ausdehnen, dann werden sie nicht schwerer, das Gewicht bleibt gleich!

    Somit können sie auch nicht die Außenträger nach innen verbiegen, was durch die "Spandrel" -Platten schon völlig unmöglich ist.

  • Dieses Video zeigt vermutlich den Zeitpunkt der Vorschwächung mit Sprengstoff:

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    watch?v=htVnlp_qg9g

    .

    Während des Einsturzes des Südturms, schießen plötzlich Flammen und schwarzer Rauch aus dem Nordturm heraus, etwa aus dem selben Ort, wo die leicht verbogenen Säulen stehen. Sie verursachen auch neuere, kleinere Feuer, die sich dann mit der Zeit, bis zum Einsturz, weiter ausbreiten.

    Möglicherweise verursacht durch eine Druckwelle, die Schneidladungen entwickeln?

  • Das zweite Szenario ist für mich das plausibelste!

    Der innere Kern scheint vor dem globalen Kollaps vorgeschwächt worden zu sein. Einige Säulen (mind. eine Säulenreihe) an der südlichen Kante des Kerngerüstes wurden wohl zerstört/zertrennt. Der große Teil des Gewichtes die sie trugen, verlagerte sich auf die Außensäulen der südlichen Außenwand und somit verbogen die sich unter dem zusätlichem Druck etwas nach innen.

  • This is BS. The remaining 75 lower floors were undamaged. Look at WTC 5 and 6, they took the full 110 stories of BOTH collapses, 250,000 tons of steel from a thousand feet above, and remained standing after burning for over 20 hours.

  • This video looks like a crude illustration of one aspect of the official analysis of the destruction by fire of the twin towers. But it is hard to recognize the silliness of this theory without reviewing it in details.

    Frankly, the twin towers' demolitions are much easier to illustrate.

    Love,

  • Achimspok, I cannot read the small red writing at the end.  Can you or someone tell me what it says?

  • It says "maximum 55 inches".

  • no center column?? there was a massive center column the main support not the exterior

  • +°;%=/1;~ů

  • seen all this befor, whats up with the music? what i you trying to make me feel?

    crap!

  • WTF?

    The music is a piece of seroius art.

    What does it mena for me? The very suspense and astonishment from the not yet fully understand mechanisms of nature!

  • Turn off the sound! Put the soundtrack of Disneys "3 Caballeros" in the CD player! Watch it!

    Feels like a debunker video, right? It isn't.

    But I'm sure you've seen all the nice colors before. Next, try to understand the meaning!

  • what?

    ea name play! got it. wow! the music makes so much more sense, thanks. Dude, yes it was an inside job,.. im on youre side there. but you don't need this dark music to make it make sense. plus ive seen all this info before in a way better light. Why is it wrong for Fox to put out news with (call it want you want) mood altering music but not for us? makes us as bad as them. let the info speak for its self.

  • You are right but 4 hours video without any music is boring to make.

  • i think theres two people who know it was a mix between two groups of people or even more than that to bring these towers down, get a bunch of people to high jack planes, and welcome it, if not welcome it, at least to turn it away, we all know the one good way to have mass social change over night, is have a social disaster, hitlers people wrote that one up, why do you think there fed building went up in flames, so they could point a finger. but yea we all know 2 planes can take down 2 buildings

  • Steel only weakens at 2700 F

    When it reaches the crystallization point... and Annealing occurs... then and only then loses the hardening properties that may have been subjected to for the propperties expected on it.

  • restricted thermal expansions begans to seriously threaten the trusses at 500°C, however this was clear job of nanothermite, which was placed at the impact floors and 105th floor of the towers, have a nice day!

  • all 3 Towers on 9-11 went down by CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!

  • agreed...if something what has a steel construction,cant fall down in almost freefal speed to its own footprint pulvarized into dust..and not 3 times a day in a same city...

  • your a dumbass, you people dont know shit about shit!

  • I'm not so sure about that,sorry.

  • Exactly, if you watch the video closely you see a spaceship with it's cloaking device failing fire the torpedoes into the buildings!

  • be careful, a super secret unit of al-kvakajda is planning attack on your house!!!!

  • ok so the floors fall. why didnt they seperate themselves from the central core column. it should still be there after the "FLOOR" collapses. its total B.S

  • They did seperate themselves from the core columns which came down at a slower rate than the actual floors.

    The debris pile was 16 Acres, that is not falling into your own footprint. That is not even close. Not WTC 1,2 or 7 fell into it's own footprint. It's just BS CT lingo that is wrong.

    Facts speak louder than Alex Jones will ever be able to scream.

  • believe me i think you and alex jones are about the same in the order of higher protozoa.

    Where is the missing steel then, pancake collapse, have you ever seen the results?

    the debris pile is 15-20 stories to small. and thats steel im talking about not anything else in total its on the order of 30-35 stories to small.

    you have trouble with english if you think WTC 1 2 and 7 are not within their own footprint pal. find another job mate your a bad liar post evidence please.

  • Well whatever, the difference between me and Alex Jones is that at least I'm not begging for donations

    The missing steel? There is no missing steel, it's been well documented, catalogued, all the steel is accounted for. It did NOT melt, it did NOT disappear, It did NOT turn to dust. Each piece has a number on it, and was put back into order to find out exactly what happened and how it fell. 

    STOP LISTENING TO BS ALEX JONES CRAP THAT SAYS IT TURNED TO DUST. IT IS WELL ACCOUNTED FOR.

  • 15-20 Stories to small? Based on what? Are you just making that number up? A bldg that tall has NEVER collapsed before, so where exactly do your stats come from? It's never happened before. How how do YOU of all people know what should happen in a situation where it has NEVER happened before? Are you GOD or something? Do You somehow understand the new rules of what should happen?

    And BTW, the debris pile was a total of 13 stories, so you think a 100 story bldg should collapes into 30?

  • ok so explain the explosive way the tower came down..it did not buckle and collapse it was blown into bits which were planted in buildings hundreds of meters away. take this poor attempt down before you embarrass yourself any more and crawl back under your rock fool.

  • Search the net for "GJS-WTC27.jpg" and describe what you see! ...or just watch the other chapters, pomodoro!

  • lol pomeroo

    his attempt is alot better than anything i have seen so far. Bazants pseudoscientific paper is no where close to Achimspok's work.

    nor any JREFers attempt.

  • Really????? Explosive way the tower came down????? Pieces being blown across into bldgs hundreds of meters away??????

    I thought the whole prove you truthers kept repeating is that the proof of demolition is because the bldg fell into it's own footprint. You guys keep saying it's a classic controlled demolition because it falls into its own footprint. Now you are saying that the bldg blasted and exploded hundreds of meters into other bldgs, and that is now the new proof. Make up your mind

  • thats building 7 into its own footprint. so are you saying there was not a pile of rubble at G/Z from the two towers and that none of the towers was blown into other buildings surrounding them? if you are you are a LIAR!!

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