Lost Evidence "Guadalcanal" 5/5

[nikemac84]

Great series>>>>> Thanks for the upload mate......

[MrAapenkind]

japsgetanal !!

[t0ny0ngBayawak]

why is it always the marines, navy and air force? where's the army?

[xCh34pShOtx]

@t0ny0ngBayawak ....The Pacific was mostly Marines and Navy, the Army was over in Europe.

[0341MarineInfantry]

@xCh34pShOtx Actually, that is incorrect. The Army had more divisions in the pacific than the Marines did. While most island fighting done by the Army wasn't as played up as the Marines. The Army started along side the Marines at Guadalcanal and finished with them at Okinawa.

[rahulbond3m]

Thumbs up for the Cactus Airforce!

[horsensscope]

this documentary series is sketchy in its coverage of what happened. Go to usarmy history web and download histories of various battles for the facts on a day by day basis. This stuff is not really 'history".

[spitfire77mike]

This part of the video finally tells of the Navy cruiser force that was ordered to stop the Japanese from reinforcing their troops. What the narrator DOES NOT say is that the Japanese had 2 Battleships plus Destroyers in their force but the US only had Cruisers and Destroyers. The US losses were heavy but they inflicted enough damage on the Japanese to force their Admiral to turn away. One Jap battleship was heavyily damaged. It was sunk the next day by US airpower. My ancestor died on CA38.

[Noodles37UK]

Amazing how this parallels the German defeat at Stalingrad same period. Turning point. All seemed to come apart 1943 for Axis.

[USMC2074]

Semper Fi to all the Marines who secured that airfield, and held off so many Japanese.

[Toddinfantry]

@USMC2074 Semper Fi !!

[tss77]

There were really two turning points in the Pacific War Midway and Guadalcanal.

The cream of the Japanese Naval Air Arm defeated at Midway what was remaining was destroyed during the campaign for Guadalcanal and the myth of the Imperial Army was shattered. After Guadalcanal the Japanese would remain on the defensive.

[MrThe39]

i would die of joy if i can go back in time in fight these type of battles. now in days war are more less funner.

[dragonsfire2289]

@MrThe39 yeah im sure it was such a paradise.

[stipicaradic]

I'm just reading John Toland's "Rise & fall of the Japanese Empire" & the Japs were actually outnumbered, starving, with no provisions & badly equipped. Kavaguchi didn't even know there was a ridge in front of Henderson field, but he thought they couldn't to go around it, 'coz they'll all die of starvation & sickness. Japanese soldiers named Guadalcanal Starving Island & they would lick the palms of their hands to taste the salt before dying. The Nips fought against odds.

[Nimadan]

@stipicaradic,

You (and Toland) are correct on this point. The Japanese ground forces were outnumbered, poorly equipped, and badly supplied when they were supplied at all.  Their overall situation was very similar to that of their comrades in the New Guinea campaign which was going on at the same time. You'd probably appreciate the NG docudrama, "KOKODA - The Bloody Track" which is on YT now at:

watch?v=oScT3WhCk8w&feature=re­lated

[JSA1957]

@stipicaradic Gonna have to check and see if I can find that book. Toland is a good writer. Seems like I'd heard of the book before. thanks for reminding me of it.

[onefugowie]

i dont understand..how did the Marines get Ammo..when they were left on the Island they had only three days of Ammo they said...it does not mention air drops ...how did they have the Ammo to continue for so long....

does anybody know....i would like to read up on Guadalcanel from a Marines point of view that was there any book i could start with that would explain how they maniged to last so long with so little Ammo...

[stipicaradic]

@onefugowie There were constant airdrops, 'coz the yanks had total air superiority. There were also many american ships in the area. The documentary is bias and doesn't tell the whole story.

[Toddinfantry]

@stipicaradic Airdrops?? What airdrops on the 'Canal?? Air superiority?? Are you kidding me? Do some damn research on the battle before you disrespect those that fought there with your foolish post. Many American ships??..Really?? Oh ya the ones at the bottom of Iron Bottom sound. Man do some research!!

Semper Fi !

[stipicaradic]

@Toddinfantry I know I'm right, but there's probably no point in arguing with you.

[Toddinfantry]

@stipicaradic I don't want an argument at all. My goal is to keep the facts correctly stated on these military vids. Your post is completely wrong, so let's have a civil discussion. Please point out your facts to support your statement and I will do the same, but you will find I am not wrong.

[stipicaradic]

@Toddinfantry I stated my argument in my first post. Try to read Toland's book and you'll find the truth. Don't be afraid.

[Toddinfantry]

@stipicaradic Again you dodge the questions that I posed originally. Airdrops??Where?? Many American ships? Where?

Don't try to dance around your first statements and then reference a book that tells a great story from a very biased perspective.

What airdrops?

What many ships?

What are you talking about?

[Toddinfantry]

@stipicaradic Well I guess when all is lost and you have finally done some research the only thing left to do is remove your incorrect posts. Too bad, because you are almost correct on many points.

Troll???...no just a former Marine that won't allow misinformation to be spread.

[Nimadan]

@stipicaradic,

Toddinfantry is correct and you are wrong, at least in regards to the first (and most famous) phase of the campaign, which is what "LE Guadalcanal" exclusively focuses on. During this time, the US had neither air nor sea superiority. The supply ships of the original convoy had to withdraw while only half unloaded because of the threat of Japanese surface units. The Ist Marines were forced to operate in the face of shortages of ammo, medicine, and even food.

[MrThe39]

@onefugowie well what might happen was the when the usa killed Japanese they took there guns in all emmo so maybe that was how the Marines kept on fighting

[zeathan]

fck u japs! murderer, rapist japs!

[fauxsham]

Wouldnt it have made more sense for the japanese to have landed their troops at night, where the aircraft from Henderson couldn't have hit them on the way in. Also, they could have taken some shipping around the other side of the island and pounded Henderson from there.

[Nataku81]

@fauxsham They were, it was called the Tokyo Express. Later only they made a change and tried for a larger landing using slow transports.

[YoYoMikey63X]

wow why did the japs even try the freaking suck thought they were supposed to be smart.americans never loose

[sedavies]

Just another example of the Japanese not knowing when to stop.

Much like a Toyota Camry.

[jimmyb90]

@sedavies funny

[the82spartans]

Excellent.

5*'s

[Iamfukenripped]

War is not nice.

[nlpjohn]

The Jap transports beached themselves but they could not unload fast enough. Some US pilots puked in their cockpits after seeing the red dyed waters chock full shredded hamburger that use to be Jap soldiers... There were Jap admirals who correctly said retaking Guad was a mistake but the hot-headed Jap generals called them defeatists and persisted in their suicidal plans.

[Nataku81]

@nlpjohn quite right. Guadalcanal lost the Japanese New Guinea.

[ali4330]

The japanese were too rigid with their tactics.They should had switch tactic to guerilla warfare of hit and run and wear down US soldiers.A prolonged battle will wear down US soldiers spirit.The vietcongs,Iraqi and Afghan mujahiddeen had use the tactic succesfully.

[reaperflynn3]

So many more casualties on the enemies side. That's what happens when you cross a marine and his rifle I suppose.

[antimatterXXXIII]

Total Russian dead/missing at Stalingrad, military alone - 479,000. One battle, 25 times the Marine dead for the entire war.

More Army died in the Battle of the Bulge - one battle - than all the Marines combined in WW II. It's time the Marines stopped boasting about how great and courageous they are.

[innit27]

and what did you do other than look up some statistics and wank over them . you count them like they are fleas on a dog rathet than humans.

[antimatterXXXIII]

Total dead, all actions WWII (KIA, died of wounds, died as POW, invalided)

Navy 34607 972 909 4647

Marines 17376 1682 510 10063

Since relatively few Navy died in the ETO, these figures give an accurate account of the relative contribution - particulalry when you consider that most of the Marines died in pointless battles of attrition on strategically worthless island fortresses.

[innit27]

yawn. you are certainly pointless.

[Nimadan]

Every documentary on Guadalacanal I've ever seen focuses totally on the 1st Marine Division. No argument they were heroes, but the campaign went on for 3 months after they were pulled out. Two US Army divisions plus elements of the 2nd Marine Div were sent in for the kill.  You'd think the fact that the Battle of Mount Austen was the setting for perhaps the greatest American war novel, "The Thin Red Line" would get some attention from the doofuses who make these docus....

[antimatterXXXIII]

@Nimadan Total agreement there - in fact the Army never gets and Pacific credit, and one forgets that many of the big Marine engagements were for strategically irrelevant places like Tarawa and Peleliu, and even Iwo Jima. The real strategic battle was fought in SW Asia with the lion's share of credit going to the "swabbies" and the GIs. The Marines are certainly the best at boasting.

[Nimadan]

@antimatterXXXIII:

Agree with you about Tarawa and Peleliu, but Iwo Jima actually was strategically vital, so as bad as the battle was, it had to be fought.  Several hundred B-29s and thousands of aircrew may have been saved by being able to land there after taking damage. T & P though were recognized as mistakes almost as soon as the battles were over.

Cold comfort to the families of the dead....

[MiramonteSucks]

@Nimadan

if they covered every important aspect of all the videos they would be 3-4 hours long. they have to choose what they feel is the most critical moments are because of time constraints.

[Nimadan]

@MiramonteSucks,

Thank you, I GRASP THE CONCEPT of editing. Their stale, shallow "choices" are exactly what I'm critiquing. And what's wrong with a somewhat longer production? Why does everything Hollywood do have to be geared for semi-literates with short attention spans? Did you see the Aussie TV docudrama, "Kokoda Trail?" It's IS 3-4hrs long, & I watched every minute of it, & I loved it. It was available on YT 6 months ago; check it out. And READ "The Thin Red Line"; it's awesome....

[d8654474]

@Nimadan well, that would take away some glory from the Marine they don't want that. I swear the media and the Marine are all on the same team. Some of the stuff i have read and watch is complete bias, it almost like they trying to dis-credit the Army. Why the fuck does the narrator need to mention oh the Army came in to clean up, it almost like the Marine paid them to say that.

[fuhmeregan]

Savage little dumb japs against North Americans and Aussie's - what were the little monkies thinking? They wanted the fight, and they slaughtered of thousands of innocent people before they in their EXTREME STUPIDITY attacked the USA, and in industrial mega-giant, to their puny little monkey islands' capabilty. Dec 7 is remembered in its "infamy" they should add day of "monkey stupidity"!!!!!!!! lol!

[TheHawk114]

LOL on 01:09 headshot

[SupaTROopa2]

i no its not really appropiate but at 01:09

BOOM HEADSHOT

[zombiesoiree]

Thanks for posting these videos. The Guadalcanal Campaign was undoubtedly one of the hardest fought in US military history. Truly, a terrible battle.

[peterm3964]

Thanks to these brave young men , Australia was saved from possible Japanese conquest .

We fought side by side with our American friends in the Pacific , and turned the Jap tide in New Guinnea , The Coral Sea , and Savo Island battles .

Australia and New Zealand . stood shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. soldiers against the fascist Japanese

Make no mistake Australia was the ultimate prize for the Japs .

[rickguatzjr]

...the last stand of bataan and corregidor change the japs timetable,bcoz of the courage of americans and filipino soldiers,the japanese division that supposedly to invade new zealand and australia was redeployed in the bataan and corregidor thus halting their swift pacific invasions and saving new zealand and australia..

[mehdan2]

yea mate you got saved

imagine what the japs wouldve done if they took the cities and treated the civilians ?

u remember what happened in Nanking, Singapore and Hong Kong after the Japs took em right ?

[theawesomehuntsman]

this was one of the bloodiest battles of ww2

[gotcha109]

no mercy