Naomi Wolf Interviewed by "Morpheus" (Part 1)

[gloryoski]

I mean, there's plenty of coverage of the erosion of individual rights, etc....But why is she the only one who is not a right libertarian telling us to do actions NOW around this very imminent thing?

[frnnk]

maybe because they still believe the false left right paradigm where historically its the democrats that = liberal and good and republicans that = callous and bad. most people are not that apt to investigate, and so they fall for what they think they are SUPPOSED to think. most people think hillary clinton is good, even though she's worse than bush. that's the way the world works. people like the simple things, and they'll fight to keep it that way.

[gloryoski]

Ok...Without telling me that just about every politician/journalist/activist­/intellectual on the left is a "gatekeeper" or that communism and corporatism are really exactly the same thing...because I am not going to believe any of that...please someone tell me, without sounding crazy, and definitely without antisemitism, why her idea that there is a very imminent fascist shift in the works here is not getting more play on the left.

[Terry5135]

If that university audience of John Kerry's had overpowered those campus cops and set that boy free, we might have hope that people could actually stop these developments. Unlikely. For one thing, it's not about Bush, it's much wider and more fundamental than that.

[frnnk]

Blacks and hispanics would overpower the cops, or at least attempt to and attack. That's exactly whey they're training forces overseas to put down any resistance when "That" time comes. Just go look up Germans prepare to kill blacks in Harlem.

[Terry5135]

You're probably right. White folk will probably cooperate all the way into Haliburton camps. :) But then, white folk have this awe of the law which seems to forget that any country dolt can write a law. Wouldn't it be the height of ironies if it turned out to be blacks and Hispanics who saved us from ourselves?

[frnnk]

that is the obvious move of the proletariate, to resist strongly the even stronger oppressor. Only to return again to the status of the servile. Sad... sometimes I like the idea of the nwo destroying you all, sometimes I muse about minorities saving this country to inherit it... either way... the nwo has played the game well and control almost all the pieces and then some

[Terry5135]

The proletariat? The proletariat were never the initiators of revolution - they always originate with the middle or upper classes. But I agree with you about the NWO. These events are not about personalities, but metaphorically more like force fields. This cycle of history will run its course.

[frnnk]

Hey dipshit. Remember mesopotamia? The "proletariat" or slave underclass that was given lesser restrictions soon took over and began a series of periodic revolutions. also, in china, the revolution was fought by the ignorant underclass suppressed and oppressed for millenia. they were not middle class. therefore, with a few examples it can be proven the proletariat DOES revolt. dumbass

[frnnk]

lol. Sorry, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

[Terry5135]

Well, don't we all half the time? :) I concede that Mesopotamia was going back a little further than I had in mind. You're right.

[frnnk]

that's not the only example, remember romania. were they middle class? I think not. i mean, the world doesn't need to be generalized, there are plenty of new occurences happening all the time. fact is, even though the new world order has prepared and prepared for what they're planning to do, there is always the chance that things don't go as they planned. we could really make it out of this one alive....

but i doubt..

[Terry5135]

After seeing Naomi's 45 minute lecture, I'm glad she's written her book and is talking about it. But she's a little slow on the uptake. Long before she was thinking her holocaust survivor friend was wildly exaggerating, many people saw exactly what was happening. It's very late in the day.