Most people talk about Java the language, and this may sound odd coming from me, but I could hardly care less
-James Gosling.
THE LANGUAGE IS DEAD. yep. Go learn some "Screwing on Rails" framework or knockoff. This guy will soon be dead too. The new generation is moving in. We are in IT bubble 2.0.
@thedeadbaby That's all well and good, but programmers spent most of their time on maintenance these days (at least according to several professors who held lectures at our university). Which means you have to adapt existing software. And many of the existing programs are written in Java and C++.
Don't buy into hype. Ask software professionals what the dominating languages are and will be for years to come. 80 to 90% of them will tell you the same thing: Java and C++.
All this maintenance is for corporate servants who cant make it on their own with a truly unique idea.. if they're that good with tech, they'll up and leave the java shop (which is mostly corporate with thousands of employees blah etc) and roll their own. And my bet is that they'll NOT use java.
@thedeadbaby You are aware that you are talking about one person out of tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands? Hey, if someone has such an idea, good for him. I wish him all the best. But this is not a majority. This is not a group large enough to convince a majority of people to give up Java. I am not saying Java is the best language. I am just saying that it will be happy and alive for many years to come, no matter how dead it may be from an intellectual point of view.
He's absolutely right, the worst mistake to make is to be afraid of all the complexity. It's like: "God it's so huge and complex, I'll never get this!". And it IS amazingly huge and complex, but if you take it one layer at a time you can get it. But that is also the beauty of it, you can always learn more and it is unlikely that you'll ever get bored!
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - That's Arthur C. Clarke, not Isaac Asimov. Otherwise known as Clarke's Third Law.
Truer words have rarely been spoken. My (many) first attempts at programming in ANY language ended horribly because I didnt take the plunge. After I applied what James is talking about, programming was a relatively simple matter. Go ahead, dive in. The water is nice :)
@msj120 I hope I can agree as well. But when you get down to it, hes talking about any language. ANY language has its trepidations and things that in the moment make you scream WHY DO I HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY? With VB/C# its Visual Studio at first but then as I use it I begin to understand. With Java it can be the different frameworks that are there, but when I see them in a NetBeans tutorial, I think that is why its useful.Its knowing the tools you need to care about in order to do a project.
java is on its way out. Good bye bull shit.
ThePrivateJoker 2 months ago
Java is going nowhere, it came to stay.
Run code once and run it everywhere seems to work for me
Cheers Afimani Deogratious
deoafema 2 months ago
Most people talk about Java the language, and this may sound odd coming from me, but I could hardly care less
-James Gosling.
THE LANGUAGE IS DEAD. yep. Go learn some "Screwing on Rails" framework or knockoff. This guy will soon be dead too. The new generation is moving in. We are in IT bubble 2.0.
thedeadbaby 6 months ago
@thedeadbaby That's all well and good, but programmers spent most of their time on maintenance these days (at least according to several professors who held lectures at our university). Which means you have to adapt existing software. And many of the existing programs are written in Java and C++.
Don't buy into hype. Ask software professionals what the dominating languages are and will be for years to come. 80 to 90% of them will tell you the same thing: Java and C++.
Altairograph 2 months ago
All this maintenance is for corporate servants who cant make it on their own with a truly unique idea.. if they're that good with tech, they'll up and leave the java shop (which is mostly corporate with thousands of employees blah etc) and roll their own. And my bet is that they'll NOT use java.
thedeadbaby 2 months ago
@thedeadbaby You are aware that you are talking about one person out of tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands? Hey, if someone has such an idea, good for him. I wish him all the best. But this is not a majority. This is not a group large enough to convince a majority of people to give up Java. I am not saying Java is the best language. I am just saying that it will be happy and alive for many years to come, no matter how dead it may be from an intellectual point of view.
Altairograph 2 months ago
He's absolutely right, the worst mistake to make is to be afraid of all the complexity. It's like: "God it's so huge and complex, I'll never get this!". And it IS amazingly huge and complex, but if you take it one layer at a time you can get it. But that is also the beauty of it, you can always learn more and it is unlikely that you'll ever get bored!
Altairograph 6 months ago 3
IM JUST 21 YEARS OLD I HAVE MY OWN SYSTEM CALLED JAVA GOSLING
julius16465964 6 months ago
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - That's Arthur C. Clarke, not Isaac Asimov. Otherwise known as Clarke's Third Law.
Delonovitch 10 months ago 6
Truer words have rarely been spoken. My (many) first attempts at programming in ANY language ended horribly because I didnt take the plunge. After I applied what James is talking about, programming was a relatively simple matter. Go ahead, dive in. The water is nice :)
slartie42 1 year ago
the godfather speaks
amarghumra 2 years ago
I completely agree. Especially JEE looks complicated until you go layer by layer....
msj120 3 years ago
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stopthrm 11 months ago
@msj120 I hope I can agree as well. But when you get down to it, hes talking about any language. ANY language has its trepidations and things that in the moment make you scream WHY DO I HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY? With VB/C# its Visual Studio at first but then as I use it I begin to understand. With Java it can be the different frameworks that are there, but when I see them in a NetBeans tutorial, I think that is why its useful.Its knowing the tools you need to care about in order to do a project.
stopthrm 11 months ago