If you want to take things literally, do not open your next fortune Cookie, or medicine, do not listen to a weather forecast, or take your temperature. These things are Fortune Telling, Alchemy, Brewing of potions, prediction and other forbidden things. Even taking a bicarbonate of soda is dealing in potions and magic. OH, and you can stop using your dandruff shampoo and deodorant too.
And because it is on the internet, it must be true? However, I will admit that I do not even like the words Ouija Board and suffered a very bad experience with one and I was not even using the thing. And I did not say I did not believe in the occult. I knew a Witch and was friends long ago with a couple Wicca, and the magic of Harry Potter is fiction and fantasy. What the Bible warns of is magic which relies on or calls on the power of spirits & demons. And that is because it is not of GOD.
@13fanboy and so you prove my point. People are leaving the Church because the church has ostracized them, If the Church would realize that Jesus wants us to open our hearts to people, then we would be in a better world. I am sorry you were a victim of hypocrisy. Know that God is love free for all people to partake of. If you cannot find an open minded Church, find like Minded people and worship on your own.
Both my kids are healthy and well adjusted. Both have read, or been read, all of the Potter books, Narnia Books, etc. Both play D&D, and are healthy and well adjusted. We don't believe in Witchcraft or magic spells. I know of no reliable studies on what you speak of, and I think you are misquoting Rowling. She did research the occult to create good imagery, but uses Latin phrases for the fictitious spells.
@we4dempseys I quoted her correctly and if I can find it on the internet, so can you. Just because you don't believe in the occult does not change the facts. I'm sure some spells were just Latin words but she said she did us some real incantations and spells that real people in the occult do use. When I was little we didn't know about such things either, but I was tormented by demons at night and I did play a game that no longer exists. It was similar to the Ouija board.
You paint a picture that an increase in Wicca is a direct result of Harry Potter. If people are leaving the church in favor of Wicca, then I see that as the churches failing, not to be blamed on pop culture. Harry Potter and his world is no more real than Metropolis or Gotham City. People who are bit by spiders or are exposed to cosmic radiation don't burst forth with heroic powers. And if they did, some in the church would condemn then as witches too.
If you are addressing me, I didn't say people were leaving church to practice witchcraft. My point was that is has no place in the church, first of all. Second, it is a "fact" that because of H.P. children have been researching sorcery, witchcraft and occultic sites. J.K.Rowling herself in an interview, admitted that 1/3rd of what she wrote is based on acual occultism and that she used the actual words to spells and the characteristics of the known demons in the occult..,1999.
If you mean that people are roll playing Harry Potter, I agree. But Harry Potter has nothing to do with the occult. Harry Potter is a work of Fiction in a fantasy world and nothing like Occult practices. If you are confusing the two, I suggest that you need to research both before believing radical and wrong beliefs.
The story line is the fictional part but like I said she used actual spell from witchcraft. Do you want your children someday to be reciting actual incantations and summoning up demons? Does anyone here understand the demons are real and will rush through any door that we open in our lives? Do you want your kids tormented, or afflicted? Walking through life with this spirit of darkness over their minds. This stuff is real, God warns us to have "nothing" to do with it.
The world of Harry Potter, Tolkien's Middle Earth, Narnia, and even Dungeons and Dragons Role Playing are all created by Christians. Many people get confused by the use of magic in these books and the restriction of magic in the Bible. The Bible restricts that magic which comes from demons and spirits not him. The magic in these works of fiction is not Biblical, nor is it against the word of God. It is only dangerous when people lack understanding of Gods word such as to confuse the two.
@we4dempseys But you cannot deny the "fact" that so many kids are now dabbling in the occult because of Harry Potter and none of the others have caused this effect on such a large scale.
Why stop with the sorcery to get new members, why not cuss from the pulpit so those who cuss will feel at home. Or hey, lets have a saunce for the devil worshipers to feel welcome to your church. Let's just wallow in all the muck and mire and look just like the world so they will fill the pews. What's wrong with this picture? Where do you draw the line. Is having members your goal, at any cost. What's next a vampire dressing minister for the twilies.
You may not embrace witchcraft, but by promoting witchcraft as fun and doing so in your church is very foolish. Since those who practice witchcraft do so with the help of demons, is this really something that God would want for his people to play with. Is entertainment supreme over repentance and righteousness. Should we not be teaching our children to come out of worldly things. Many kids have looked into witchcraft because of J.K.Rowling. We are losing souls and this is what you're doing?
Ever thought that maybe people turn to witchcraft because of Legalism in the church and only knowing "Religion" and not growing with Christ instead of a fictional children's book?
@appletonks Yes, legalism is like the opposite of living by the Spirit. I'm not saying every child will become a witch because of Harry Potter. But if one does not know how much Satan and his demons hate our kids and us, then it is easy to miss his tactics to destroy(and desensitize) our children. Why would a church present a union of such mixture of sorcery with Christianity, even if it is just for fun.
I suggest looking up the many videos here on youtube that talk about all the christian themes and symbolysim. John Granger authout of "Looking for God in Harry Potter is quoted saying "Mrs. Rowling is "Smuggling the gosple." Harry Potter is a fairy tale. Just like C.S. Lewis, Wizard of Oz, Snow White, ect. And ust like the C.S. Lewis,tolkie,and other fairy Tales it teaches our children that evil will entrance you with power but no matter how hard it gets always choose good!
Read about the other views, look we obviously are not going to agree. But I would like to say, it is not like the others writers, because the stories are good against evil. H.P. is using sorcery(evil) to battle sorcery. If you notice how they portray those who do not believe in magic, it is very negative and the characters are shown as horrible ppl. J.K.R. said that the series just came to her, like a download into her mind instantly, it wasn't from herself or God.
@appletonks As a Christian, I've learned long ago, that which is popular and embraced by millions with such love and adoration to the point of imitation, it isn't God. Because the world(fallen man, flesh)resists Jesus. Narnia or the such never caused such fiend frenzy. Demons can appear good, as they dwell in the shadows of entertainment, they nevertheless know how to enter a door that children may be unaware that they have opened. If this story just came to her, from where did it come.
@manderbos Well I can say as a Christian and a fictional writer who is working on a fantasy book as well with strong christian values, that theses stories just don't come to a person. And as a huge harry Potter fan I can tell you J.K. Rowling did YEARS of research all about latin, Christian History, and in the case of the wizardry, MYTHOLOGY. I highly suggest chekcing out the video on youtube as I sugested, and I would be happy to send you the links to them to you!
@appletonks Yes, she did research her guts out, after, the download of stories and characters came into her mind. You are doing it the way C.S. Lewis did it. He had to use his own imagination, it wasn't a story that just popped into his head or a dream. My point here is that the source of these stories is from demons, both of these women took what is vile(sorcery, vampires) and turned it into attractive entertainment. We are all conductors either for Satan or for God. There is a battle.
I agree there is a battle. But to me, the battle is more in the church then in children's stories. Relgion vs. a relationship with christ. I can see we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I do ask you to look up the videos I have suggested before, to better explain my case since it is hard to do in less the 400 chracters. God bless!
@appletonks I totally agree with a relationship with Jesus over (man-made)religion any day. But we need to be wise when is come to how our enemy works and uses people for his purposes, even those who claim to be Christian. Our young people are the target. If Satan can't kill them before they are born he will try to deceive their minds and claim their souls. We should not be battling each other, nor defending sorcery a somehow a good way to get a Christian message across.
@manderbos Quote "As a Christian, I've learned long ago, that which is popular and embraced by millions with such love and adoration to the point of imitation, it isn't God." Are you a sports fan?
@appletonks Stephenie Meyer's life changed dramatically on June 2, 2003. The stay-at-home mother of three young sons woke up from a dream featuring seemingly real characters that she could not get out of her head.
Notice how it just happened to come to her in a dream? All the characters and the romantic story of vampires and werewolves? Con't.
I have read the twilight series but I am not a fan because I do not think the series is written very well and also I see Bella as a weak "heroin".
I would love to send you the links but I can't in comments and if you would add me ass a friend here on youtube, I can show you the links in a private message. also, to quote Albus Dumbledore:
"it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live!"
"Though I had a million things to do, I stayed in bed, thinking about the dream. Unwillingly, I eventually got up and did the immediate necessities, and then put everything that I possibly could on the back burner and sat down at the computer to write—something I hadn't done in so long that I wondered why I was bothering."
Again, notice her own words. Instant stories and characters from a dream..In scriptures God speaks in dreams sometimes, but some is not ours or his.
Again if you saw my comment saying that I am NOT a fan of the Twilight series because I don't believe those books have a good message for teens and children. I am not saying that every fictional is valuble reading, but I think HArry Potter is. again, quoting Albus Dumbledore, who really I am quoting J.K. Rowling:
"it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live!"
Please, if you answer my friend request I can send you a private message so I can explain things better!
@appletonks How can you explain the use of witchcraft and sorcery as good or good fruit? Just read Duet. 18:9-14. Have nothing to do with these things. Fantasy and entertainment should not supersede the warning.
If it was real witchcraft, using the laws and belifes of wicca, then no I could not, but to believe that saying a latin wood and pointing a stick will cause a horrible effect on someone to me is just gullability. I can tell you choose to not have an open mind about this and that is your choice. you have your opinion and I have mine.
@appletonks A lot can fall into an open mind. That's the same excuse people use to wipe out what the Bible says about homosexuality.
Thousands of kids are now trying wicca and going to sites online on how to practice spells and such, because of Harry Potter. The wiccans say they are inundated on their websites. These kids are finding out that they CAN practice witchcraft and sorcery. You call me closed minded, but I call you, naive and blinded by the entertainment of it, just like them.
@appletonks Also, we are not called by God to have an open mind. You would called Jesus closed mined too. We are to have the mind of Christ. What was Adam's mind like before the fall into sin? Can you imagine Jesus penning a parable using sorcery to make a point or entertain his message through such means? The bible admonished us to be wise as serpent and gentle as doves. To know how the devil prowls. He is getting slick in his repackaged deceptions.
@manderbos I see you used the "Harry Potter is responsible" argument. Well, if a THING can be that responsible, guess what, the Internet is also responsible because they have the information about Wicca they might be looking for readily available to them here, and if the Internet can be responsible for people being irresponsible, then it's also responsible for addictions to porography. If such a thing can be responsible, why are you even here at all?
@TheGiantJax The point was, this church is using the Harry Potter theme to get people to come to church. If knowing what scripture says about sorcery Duet. 18:9-14. It doesn't make sense that a church would embrace something that we are urged to have nothing to do with. True they are not really practicing witchcraft but children are very impressionalbe, obviously. As I stated before above, Harry Potter is a catalyst to the occult. That is a fact, not mere speculation.
@manderbos I was a teen who got into the occult. It was not D&D or Harry Potter that acted as a catalyst for my interest in the occult. It was the fact that my friends who were into the occult treated me with respect and the Christian kids I knew treated me like something they scraped off of their shoes because I was not a Christian.
@13fanboi Well maybe it wasn't H.P. because it hadn't come out yet, when you were a teen. Anyway, that just proves my point more. That young people are easily influenced. You're not a teen anymore, so what is your excuse now? Are you going to say that the church is full of hypocrites? That is the usual excuse for anyone not wanting to accept Jesus as Savior. Probably those Christian teens didn't have a clue what they did wrong or how to act. Forgive and move on. This is about u.
@manderbos I accepted Christ as my Savior and no longer have anything to do with the occult and I can tell you the judgemental,holier and better than you crowd frequenting many churches are far more of a threat to people's souls than Harry Potter ever can be.
I'm not "holier than thou", only Christ in me is holy. I only responded to your comment blaming Christian teens for your going into the occult. And was challenging you to not use others as an excuse, since your older. So you've accepted Christ. AWESOME!!! I'm sure Harry Potter is entertaining, I never said otherwise. But what either of us say doesn't change the statistics of "children" toying with witchcraft and practicing sorcery from the information they recieve online now.
I am a Methodist minister in Brazil and I am ashamed to see our churches allowing this type of event that promotes practices contrary to the gospel (witchcraft, Harry Potter).
Repent brothers, repent or God will judge. Turn to the Bible, honor the legacy of our founder Wesley, who never sought to deviate from God's Word.
@frankbelv I have to agree with you. So many people are willing to defend sorcery repackaged as entertainment and yet children are being seduced and lured into darkness. Not all kids will fall for it, but they are weakened in their resolve to resist such things. Just like many on here are oblivious to what it truly represents, maybe because of all the exposure to the occult through television throughout the past 4 decades. Cartoons, sitcoms, movies etc.
If you want to take things literally, do not open your next fortune Cookie, or medicine, do not listen to a weather forecast, or take your temperature. These things are Fortune Telling, Alchemy, Brewing of potions, prediction and other forbidden things. Even taking a bicarbonate of soda is dealing in potions and magic. OH, and you can stop using your dandruff shampoo and deodorant too.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
And because it is on the internet, it must be true? However, I will admit that I do not even like the words Ouija Board and suffered a very bad experience with one and I was not even using the thing. And I did not say I did not believe in the occult. I knew a Witch and was friends long ago with a couple Wicca, and the magic of Harry Potter is fiction and fantasy. What the Bible warns of is magic which relies on or calls on the power of spirits & demons. And that is because it is not of GOD.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
@13fanboy and so you prove my point. People are leaving the Church because the church has ostracized them, If the Church would realize that Jesus wants us to open our hearts to people, then we would be in a better world. I am sorry you were a victim of hypocrisy. Know that God is love free for all people to partake of. If you cannot find an open minded Church, find like Minded people and worship on your own.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
Both my kids are healthy and well adjusted. Both have read, or been read, all of the Potter books, Narnia Books, etc. Both play D&D, and are healthy and well adjusted. We don't believe in Witchcraft or magic spells. I know of no reliable studies on what you speak of, and I think you are misquoting Rowling. She did research the occult to create good imagery, but uses Latin phrases for the fictitious spells.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
@we4dempseys I quoted her correctly and if I can find it on the internet, so can you. Just because you don't believe in the occult does not change the facts. I'm sure some spells were just Latin words but she said she did us some real incantations and spells that real people in the occult do use. When I was little we didn't know about such things either, but I was tormented by demons at night and I did play a game that no longer exists. It was similar to the Ouija board.
manderbos 3 months ago
You paint a picture that an increase in Wicca is a direct result of Harry Potter. If people are leaving the church in favor of Wicca, then I see that as the churches failing, not to be blamed on pop culture. Harry Potter and his world is no more real than Metropolis or Gotham City. People who are bit by spiders or are exposed to cosmic radiation don't burst forth with heroic powers. And if they did, some in the church would condemn then as witches too.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
@we4dempseys
If you are addressing me, I didn't say people were leaving church to practice witchcraft. My point was that is has no place in the church, first of all. Second, it is a "fact" that because of H.P. children have been researching sorcery, witchcraft and occultic sites. J.K.Rowling herself in an interview, admitted that 1/3rd of what she wrote is based on acual occultism and that she used the actual words to spells and the characteristics of the known demons in the occult..,1999.
manderbos 3 months ago
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we4dempseys 3 months ago
If you mean that people are roll playing Harry Potter, I agree. But Harry Potter has nothing to do with the occult. Harry Potter is a work of Fiction in a fantasy world and nothing like Occult practices. If you are confusing the two, I suggest that you need to research both before believing radical and wrong beliefs.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
@we4dempseys
The story line is the fictional part but like I said she used actual spell from witchcraft. Do you want your children someday to be reciting actual incantations and summoning up demons? Does anyone here understand the demons are real and will rush through any door that we open in our lives? Do you want your kids tormented, or afflicted? Walking through life with this spirit of darkness over their minds. This stuff is real, God warns us to have "nothing" to do with it.
manderbos 3 months ago
The world of Harry Potter, Tolkien's Middle Earth, Narnia, and even Dungeons and Dragons Role Playing are all created by Christians. Many people get confused by the use of magic in these books and the restriction of magic in the Bible. The Bible restricts that magic which comes from demons and spirits not him. The magic in these works of fiction is not Biblical, nor is it against the word of God. It is only dangerous when people lack understanding of Gods word such as to confuse the two.
we4dempseys 3 months ago
@we4dempseys But you cannot deny the "fact" that so many kids are now dabbling in the occult because of Harry Potter and none of the others have caused this effect on such a large scale.
manderbos 3 months ago
Why stop with the sorcery to get new members, why not cuss from the pulpit so those who cuss will feel at home. Or hey, lets have a saunce for the devil worshipers to feel welcome to your church. Let's just wallow in all the muck and mire and look just like the world so they will fill the pews. What's wrong with this picture? Where do you draw the line. Is having members your goal, at any cost. What's next a vampire dressing minister for the twilies.
manderbos 3 months ago
You may not embrace witchcraft, but by promoting witchcraft as fun and doing so in your church is very foolish. Since those who practice witchcraft do so with the help of demons, is this really something that God would want for his people to play with. Is entertainment supreme over repentance and righteousness. Should we not be teaching our children to come out of worldly things. Many kids have looked into witchcraft because of J.K.Rowling. We are losing souls and this is what you're doing?
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
Ever thought that maybe people turn to witchcraft because of Legalism in the church and only knowing "Religion" and not growing with Christ instead of a fictional children's book?
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@appletonks Yes, legalism is like the opposite of living by the Spirit. I'm not saying every child will become a witch because of Harry Potter. But if one does not know how much Satan and his demons hate our kids and us, then it is easy to miss his tactics to destroy(and desensitize) our children. Why would a church present a union of such mixture of sorcery with Christianity, even if it is just for fun.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
I suggest looking up the many videos here on youtube that talk about all the christian themes and symbolysim. John Granger authout of "Looking for God in Harry Potter is quoted saying "Mrs. Rowling is "Smuggling the gosple." Harry Potter is a fairy tale. Just like C.S. Lewis, Wizard of Oz, Snow White, ect. And ust like the C.S. Lewis,tolkie,and other fairy Tales it teaches our children that evil will entrance you with power but no matter how hard it gets always choose good!
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks
Read about the other views, look we obviously are not going to agree. But I would like to say, it is not like the others writers, because the stories are good against evil. H.P. is using sorcery(evil) to battle sorcery. If you notice how they portray those who do not believe in magic, it is very negative and the characters are shown as horrible ppl. J.K.R. said that the series just came to her, like a download into her mind instantly, it wasn't from herself or God.
manderbos 3 months ago
@appletonks As a Christian, I've learned long ago, that which is popular and embraced by millions with such love and adoration to the point of imitation, it isn't God. Because the world(fallen man, flesh)resists Jesus. Narnia or the such never caused such fiend frenzy. Demons can appear good, as they dwell in the shadows of entertainment, they nevertheless know how to enter a door that children may be unaware that they have opened. If this story just came to her, from where did it come.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos Well I can say as a Christian and a fictional writer who is working on a fantasy book as well with strong christian values, that theses stories just don't come to a person. And as a huge harry Potter fan I can tell you J.K. Rowling did YEARS of research all about latin, Christian History, and in the case of the wizardry, MYTHOLOGY. I highly suggest chekcing out the video on youtube as I sugested, and I would be happy to send you the links to them to you!
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks Yes, she did research her guts out, after, the download of stories and characters came into her mind. You are doing it the way C.S. Lewis did it. He had to use his own imagination, it wasn't a story that just popped into his head or a dream. My point here is that the source of these stories is from demons, both of these women took what is vile(sorcery, vampires) and turned it into attractive entertainment. We are all conductors either for Satan or for God. There is a battle.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
I agree there is a battle. But to me, the battle is more in the church then in children's stories. Relgion vs. a relationship with christ. I can see we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I do ask you to look up the videos I have suggested before, to better explain my case since it is hard to do in less the 400 chracters. God bless!
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks I totally agree with a relationship with Jesus over (man-made)religion any day. But we need to be wise when is come to how our enemy works and uses people for his purposes, even those who claim to be Christian. Our young people are the target. If Satan can't kill them before they are born he will try to deceive their minds and claim their souls. We should not be battling each other, nor defending sorcery a somehow a good way to get a Christian message across.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos Quote "As a Christian, I've learned long ago, that which is popular and embraced by millions with such love and adoration to the point of imitation, it isn't God." Are you a sports fan?
randoley 3 months ago
@appletonks Stephenie Meyer's life changed dramatically on June 2, 2003. The stay-at-home mother of three young sons woke up from a dream featuring seemingly real characters that she could not get out of her head.
Notice how it just happened to come to her in a dream? All the characters and the romantic story of vampires and werewolves? Con't.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
I have read the twilight series but I am not a fan because I do not think the series is written very well and also I see Bella as a weak "heroin".
I would love to send you the links but I can't in comments and if you would add me ass a friend here on youtube, I can show you the links in a private message. also, to quote Albus Dumbledore:
"it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live!"
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks
Continued;
"Though I had a million things to do, I stayed in bed, thinking about the dream. Unwillingly, I eventually got up and did the immediate necessities, and then put everything that I possibly could on the back burner and sat down at the computer to write—something I hadn't done in so long that I wondered why I was bothering."
Again, notice her own words. Instant stories and characters from a dream..In scriptures God speaks in dreams sometimes, but some is not ours or his.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
Again if you saw my comment saying that I am NOT a fan of the Twilight series because I don't believe those books have a good message for teens and children. I am not saying that every fictional is valuble reading, but I think HArry Potter is. again, quoting Albus Dumbledore, who really I am quoting J.K. Rowling:
"it does not do well to dwell on dreams and forget to live!"
Please, if you answer my friend request I can send you a private message so I can explain things better!
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks How can you explain the use of witchcraft and sorcery as good or good fruit? Just read Duet. 18:9-14. Have nothing to do with these things. Fantasy and entertainment should not supersede the warning.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos
If it was real witchcraft, using the laws and belifes of wicca, then no I could not, but to believe that saying a latin wood and pointing a stick will cause a horrible effect on someone to me is just gullability. I can tell you choose to not have an open mind about this and that is your choice. you have your opinion and I have mine.
appletonks 3 months ago
@appletonks A lot can fall into an open mind. That's the same excuse people use to wipe out what the Bible says about homosexuality.
Thousands of kids are now trying wicca and going to sites online on how to practice spells and such, because of Harry Potter. The wiccans say they are inundated on their websites. These kids are finding out that they CAN practice witchcraft and sorcery. You call me closed minded, but I call you, naive and blinded by the entertainment of it, just like them.
manderbos 3 months ago
@appletonks Also, we are not called by God to have an open mind. You would called Jesus closed mined too. We are to have the mind of Christ. What was Adam's mind like before the fall into sin? Can you imagine Jesus penning a parable using sorcery to make a point or entertain his message through such means? The bible admonished us to be wise as serpent and gentle as doves. To know how the devil prowls. He is getting slick in his repackaged deceptions.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos I see you used the "Harry Potter is responsible" argument. Well, if a THING can be that responsible, guess what, the Internet is also responsible because they have the information about Wicca they might be looking for readily available to them here, and if the Internet can be responsible for people being irresponsible, then it's also responsible for addictions to porography. If such a thing can be responsible, why are you even here at all?
TheGiantJax 3 months ago
@TheGiantJax The point was, this church is using the Harry Potter theme to get people to come to church. If knowing what scripture says about sorcery Duet. 18:9-14. It doesn't make sense that a church would embrace something that we are urged to have nothing to do with. True they are not really practicing witchcraft but children are very impressionalbe, obviously. As I stated before above, Harry Potter is a catalyst to the occult. That is a fact, not mere speculation.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos I was a teen who got into the occult. It was not D&D or Harry Potter that acted as a catalyst for my interest in the occult. It was the fact that my friends who were into the occult treated me with respect and the Christian kids I knew treated me like something they scraped off of their shoes because I was not a Christian.
13fanboi 3 months ago
@13fanboi Well maybe it wasn't H.P. because it hadn't come out yet, when you were a teen. Anyway, that just proves my point more. That young people are easily influenced. You're not a teen anymore, so what is your excuse now? Are you going to say that the church is full of hypocrites? That is the usual excuse for anyone not wanting to accept Jesus as Savior. Probably those Christian teens didn't have a clue what they did wrong or how to act. Forgive and move on. This is about u.
manderbos 3 months ago
@manderbos I accepted Christ as my Savior and no longer have anything to do with the occult and I can tell you the judgemental,holier and better than you crowd frequenting many churches are far more of a threat to people's souls than Harry Potter ever can be.
13fanboi 3 months ago
@13fanboi
I'm not "holier than thou", only Christ in me is holy. I only responded to your comment blaming Christian teens for your going into the occult. And was challenging you to not use others as an excuse, since your older. So you've accepted Christ. AWESOME!!! I'm sure Harry Potter is entertaining, I never said otherwise. But what either of us say doesn't change the statistics of "children" toying with witchcraft and practicing sorcery from the information they recieve online now.
manderbos 3 months ago
I am a Methodist minister in Brazil and I am ashamed to see our churches allowing this type of event that promotes practices contrary to the gospel (witchcraft, Harry Potter).
Repent brothers, repent or God will judge. Turn to the Bible, honor the legacy of our founder Wesley, who never sought to deviate from God's Word.
Holiness to the Lord!
frankbelv 3 months ago
@frankbelv I have to agree with you. So many people are willing to defend sorcery repackaged as entertainment and yet children are being seduced and lured into darkness. Not all kids will fall for it, but they are weakened in their resolve to resist such things. Just like many on here are oblivious to what it truly represents, maybe because of all the exposure to the occult through television throughout the past 4 decades. Cartoons, sitcoms, movies etc.
manderbos 3 months ago
I would totally go to this church!
skarafanda 4 months ago