Have you ever considered that you yourself are using logical fallacies, thereby rendering yourself less credible? A logical fallacy is not exclusively a lie, it's ridiculous if you count an appeal to emotion as a 'lie'. The "lies per minute" is bogus.
It's a shame because I appreciate your mission and all your other works. Don't play the games your opposition does, I beg you.
Throughout this ENTIRE fucking presentation he didn't show a fucking slide, a fucking imag,e a fucking clip, a fucking video, backing up the claims he made! AHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!!! It's amazing how the public will believe ANYTHING even while there is no PROOF!!!
@Josephjoel3 Their proof is a sharp looking man, dressed up in a suite reading elegantly off of a teleprompter with an Academy Award-level demeanor, giving the usual dose of lies and propaganda to the masses.
seems every six seconds obama is programmed to lie and so it seems he likely gets paid/rewarded for reading the teleprompter buy/by/bi being granted what could be termed/deemed as "sick sex" six secs is not success nor is sick-sex.
i am getting sick sorry i cant listen to this crap he has sent army s out thay have killed 300,000 kids what did thay do . and yes 300,000 kids sinces he came in. We have to forgive ourselfs for picking him i also wanted him in,we were all sold out.love and peace on this day 11.11.11
Its foreign policy law that you cannot enter another persons country and murder any civlians or any countryman there without a trial. After all there is NO solid links ties or evidence connecting Bin Laden to the 911 attacks. There is however plenty of evidence tying him to the Bush family through years of joint family business and mutually beneficial deals lol
How have 176 people "liked" this? I'm very interested to hear it, but I have to crank the speakers to hear Obama and the pop up noises hit like bricks every time... I made it about 10 seconds in before I had to shut it off to keep myself from throwing this laptop out the window.
this pissses me off. i cant believe people still follow this fool. he is the biggest show of proof that the position of president is a figurehead position. any power one could exorcise in such a position, is subject to swift retribution. i.e assassination.
he came in with the same agenda as bush just a different face and a somewhat smoother talker. we voted for him but they dont make it clear that our votes mean nothing. that means on a real scale how much power do we have? and why does
Don't mean to be a dick, but "everyone else recognizes" that we have 5 senses is a fallacy in itself, isn't it? I believe senses are one of those "unproveable" etheral subjects that is mostly appeal to belief. Arguing the number of senses from either side is, basically, a moot argument. What is important is understanding the process, or the idea being conveyed. Thank you.
Hmm... Isn't using the handle 'SciMethod' a veiled attempt @ ad verecundiam - an (inappropriate) appeal to authority... if a "Scientist" thinks so, it MUST be true"?
telepromter reading fag 911 was an inside job how come your top priority is keeping the first responders from the 911 aneversary he don't want the world to know lie lies lies treason Impeach obama now we are vigilant and listening and figuring out this obama administration and its lies/propaganda
RON PAUL 2012 End the fed Stop the fake unjust wars
The person who made this video does not know what logical fallacies are. He seems to think because he knows Latin that he can logically deduce the meanings of all words in English. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Read about logical fallacies and then you'll have a better understanding of why you are wasting your time. There are MANY people who don't know what logical fallacies are, as demonstrated by the number of positive comments you are getting.
Think of a logical fallacy as a path you need to take to get somewhere. The path is the argument. The destination is the point you are trying to make (thesis). If a path is blocked or goes nowhere, it doesnt' help you get to your destination. A logical fallacy is like a path that doesn't go where you want it to go. This doesn't mean that there aren't paths to go where you want to go. A failed argument (a logical fallacy) does not demonstrate that there are no valid arguments possible.
@iceisnice61 Look up "logical fallacies" on Wikipedia to get a better idea of how bad this video's arguments are. Yes, there were definitely some unsubstantiated claims made by Obama, so there was definitely something worth attacking, but this video belies an extreme ignorance of what logical fallacies are.
@RationalBullets Anyone can read your comments in here and see how clear it is that you have not looked into this fully. So no wonder you dont accept the proof that was given. You dont even know what it is.
100's of people didn't believe it either, and so they filed a court order and were shown all of the evidence. And a wide range of people from all across the spectrum done this. and not a single one denied it after having seen the proof by court order. NEXT!
@RationalBullets You dont even know what the offcial story is, you have not looked at all the facts. But you deny it anyway. There was never an offcial claim that he was dead, until now. and 100's of people have confirmed this, on all sides.
No one is trying to force you to believe it. but you have to stop lying and making shit up. That is called disinformation, and you do everyone a disservice with your ignorant bullshit.
@RationalBullets I agree it should all be made public. Including the live video from the navy seal helmet cam that Obama, Biden, Gates, Hillary, Admiral Mullen, Donilon, Brennan, and quite a few others watched as it happened. Even though throwing women and children to the ground and shooting an unarmed man in the head would be brutal and might outrage the Arab world, it should be made public. As should the photos that 100's have seen by court order, the court should make them public for all.
@RationalBullets No navy seal came on TV and said this is what we did, only to change their story latter on. It's pointless to debate with you. because you make things up. You distort the facts! GOOD BYE!
@RationalBullets Many have stated why this video is wrong. In fact many of the fallacies listed are wrong. There's no counter argument at all. There's not even a demonstration for the fallacies listed. which had there been it would be clearer how fallacious the counter argument is, but since there isn't even one, makes it pure rhetoric.This video would hold no ground in a real classroom with an actual critical thinking teacher.
@RationalBullets The story changed quite a bit. Some jumped the gun on the hearsay they heard. It leaked it out. But in time an offcial version was given. I think one wife was there, and another one was brought in, or soemthing like that. Look guy, I thought he was dead to. but apparently he wasn't. whoopee do. It doesnt really matter. His death hasn't changed much. a little outrage is all. get over it!
@RationalBullets No you shouldn't bring up red herring untrue rumors at all. It's a distraction!
That old faked photo was NOT released by the obama admin. It was shown on Pakistani TV. but i dont speak the language, like most in the US, we dont know what paki TV said when showing the 2010 artist rendition- The popular previously known about fake photo. that no offcial in the US ever shown for any type of evidence at all! why are you lying?
@RationalBullets You didnt make a counter point at all. I had no idea what you needed to be proved. I guessed. because you did not say. You only spouted off a bunch of nonsense personal attacks, pure rhetoric.
and now you sate this: "No pics, witnesses, film, or confirmation outside of the Obama Administration." which isn't even true. His wife identified his body, as did others. which i already told you. Even Al-Qaeda has confirmed his death. You're fishing for straws. It's pathetic.
@RationalBullets This video has a Genetic Fallacy. The video says Obama was reported dead in the past, this is true. However, he was reported to have died do to health reasons in Dec. 2001. In a tabloid newspaper in Egypt. That turned out to be false. And some people speculated that he might be dead. Speculation isn't proof of anything though.
@RationalBullets Are you kidding me? How much proof do you need? There is video of Osama watching curent news on TV. His wife identified the body. DNA samples were collected. Congress saw pictures of his body.
Please take some time to look up the wikipedia pages on logical fallacies. I like what you a re doing, but it kills me that you are doing such a poor job, as you don't seem to know the purpose of logical fallacies. They demonstration merely that an argument is fallacious. These videos show that you know next to nothing about this subject area. It's too bad, too, because so many people need education on this topic.
When searching Google for "appeal to rumor" or "..rumour" you will find fewer than 1,000 pages. Why use such obscure naming? A better choice of fallacies would be "bare assertion fallacy," pointing out that it would be illogical to believe this, as there has been no proof provided (no photos, no recordings) that Bin Laden was killed there. In fact, there was no evidence in the months intelligence agencies supposedly staked out the place that Bin Laden was even there.
@RationalBullets If you wanted to prove that someone is wrong about something, pointing out how the wrong conclusion was made, only works if an actual argument to support your position is made as well. Other wise it's pure rhetoric. Just like your comment is!
@RationalBullets Now that you mention it, I guess he does say you sir. been years since I seen his show. dont really care at all. That has nothing to do with anything. Regardless of what tool labels you like to use for others, and even yourself. Now that is something to luz about!
EXCELLENT!! Hate to say it, but the popups are a tiny bit loud - if you turn it down too much you can't hear this moron talk.. only saying that because I have to be quiet now the kids are in bed.. :-) But this is fantastic!
These are not fantastic videos. Whoever makes these seems to think that anytime you have something that looks like a fallacy, then it is a fallacy. Fallacies are arguments that don't work -- that is, fallacious arguments. If there is an argument that is fallacious, then it gets categorized as one of the fallacies. However, there has to be an argument. Many arguments are implicit, unstated. Simply pointing out a fallacy without pointing out what the implied argument is, is useless.
@SciMethod You Sir. are absolutely correct. These pop up fallacy videos are a fallacy themselves. They present no real argument for anything at all. It's complete rhetoric.
@SciMethod Fallacies are lies - Latin Fallare. The very foundation of logic is to be able to spot the lies in the information entering in via the 5 senses. It is NOT necessary to make a counter "argument" to point out others' lies. That's dumb. That would make the point of logic useless in the first place. If someone is lying to you, there is no need to make a counter argument. The idea is to know when you're being lied to. Whom ever told you you need a counter argument lied to you.
@GnosticMedia Wikipedia's definition: "Informal fallacies are arguments that are fallacious for reasons other than structural (formal) flaws and which usually require examination of the argument's content." A logical fallacy describes an argument (implied or not) that has a problem. Your videos rarely if ever explain what those arguments are.
@GnosticMedia Whenever you point out that someone is employing logical fallacies, you are implicitly making an argument that someone else is making an argument (explicit or implicit) that is not logical. Logical fallacies are not the same as lies, and stating that they are based on the Latin etymology of "fallacy" is itself a genetic fallacy.
@CandySlices Yes, this is correct. I would love this person's videos so much if they actually taught the fallacies properly, but these videos focus on statements, not arguments. This is not how fallacies ought to be pointed out. This is worthless, even though many people don't know what the fallacies are and simply laud these videos.
@volound Please name them. Touch, taste, smell, sight, hearing. This is how our minds bring in data. We're not talking about mystical make shit up and call it real. We're talking about the physical 5 senses. Maybe you're a lizard alien or something that's figured out how to have more than everyone else. I guess that makes you special. But for the last 3000 years or so, everyone else recognizes that we have 5.
@GnosticMedia have you ever felt hungry or thirsty? which sense did you use to detect it?
.......can you hear that?........ thats the sound of realization that you are fractally wrong, and (if youre not also mentally deficient) thats the sound of you realizing youve fallen prey to an urban myth akin to "different parts of the tongue have different roles" or "deoxygenated blood is blue", both of which you probably also believe.
@GnosticMedia I would argue that thinking, or memory, is a sense. Perhaps not sensual, but as a tool to organize information about "reality", sure. Or perhaps the sense of emotion.
@RishiB No, thinking, the brain, is how we process the information coming in from the 5 senses. It's not a sense in itself. The brain can't hear, feel, touch, taste, smell or anything else, even have emotion, without information coming to it from the 5 senses. What could it possibly be emotional toward, without input via the 5 senses? You're putting the cart before the horse.
See... It's comments like these which call your credibility into question... I like what you're doing here. You're pointing out lies based on logic. That's a GOOD thing.... But then you become arrogant and like most scientists, assume you know everything. You simply DO NOT KNOW how many senses humans have. No one does. You take something which is "accepted" (5 senses) and preach it as fact simply because it's "accepted". Isn't THAT a logical fallacy in and of itself?
You can't sell yourself as an intelligent, thoughtful person without FIRST acknowledging how LITTLE we know as a species. In this video, you rip apart Obama's speech because his entire position hinges upon LIES... Lies like "9/11 was carried out by terrorists in caves." Because we know these are lies, we can totally deflate Obama's logic. But when you posit, "There are 5 senses", you're saying it based on something you were told by the establishment without questioning it. "Accepted" ≠ "truth"
And now the kicker.... Acknowledging there may be more than 5 senses doesn't even damage your position on logical fallacies. Even if there are 20 senses, fallacies are STILL determined based on the info which comes in via those senses. I'd say, if most humans used more than 10% of their brains and more than 5 senses, log. fallacies would be even MORE easily spotted. So why get all dickish with someone who asserts there are more than 5 senses when that position poses no threat to your argument?
@GnosticMedia Actually, here's a non-inclusive list of senses that we know of: touch, taste, smell, sight, hearing... hunger, thirst, balance, position, toxicity, respiration, capacity, pain and temperature.
I suppose one could argue thirst is the sixth sense. ;)
@SexyMelon ...ummm no, thirst in NOT a sense it is simply your body requiring fluids, much like hunger is your body telling you it requires food. We do not engage with the outer world via our thirst or our hunger.
There are ONLY 5 known sense, except for the little kid who see's dead people in that M. Night Shamalama flick, what was that movie called? oh yeah "Sixth Sense", huh, go figure.
@TheSilvertones Don't you FEEL thirst? Don't you FEEL hunger? ;)
Feelings and senses aren't just about taking information from the outside. That's exactly what people usually forget about.
Just as you forget about the fact that "Touch" isn't so simple either, there are seven known types of skin receptors alone: pressure, temperature, pain, and others that I forget right now... Plus, each of the little hairs on your body can sense whether it is raised or flat, and much more.
@SexyMelon Okay, first we need to define what a sense is because what you are talking about and what I'm talking about are not jiving. What I'm talking about are the sense in which we precieve the outside world and by which we can have understanding. In this case, things like thirst, hunger, pain etc..do not apply because my hunger only tells ME that I'M hungry, I cannot identify a object with my thirst or hunger. My sense of smell may trigger my thirst or hunger, much like ...(to be continued)
@GnosticMedia Fallacies are not lies, they are errors in logic. Pocket Oxford English Dictionary: "a mistake in reasoning which makes an argument invalid". I don't know what the hell you're giving us Latin for. Anyways, what would make this video of more value is explaining exactly what the argument is at each point and why each type of fallacy applies. Those random pop ups are of minimal use really, although they serve to help persons to take a closer look at what he is saying.
@SciMethod A fallacy can also be called a falsity, or a misleadity, or a bullshitty, or you could simply say what he is : a lier, a speaker with snake tongue, speaker with fork tongue.
It is easy to see the truth in his speech though, its the opposite of everything he says is true.
Great work Gnostic media, i think all public servants should be put through the fallacy filter.
@stiffex Child, when someone tries to teach you, you will not listen. Google logical fallacies if you will learn that you are wrong. Ignore it if you will. I don't care. You are ignorant of logical fallacies.
Great video!! I learned all the Ad Hominems involved. Btw, since Obama is Muslim he sided with Osama also, haha, Tu Quoque Ad Hominem. Phh,but i guess its true, even without the Muslim factor.
The scumbag Nazi Nigger has commented another illegal act. But hey you low life's wanted this garbage cause you wanted a free hand out. This Freemason Satanist is much loved by all & can never be brought to a true light cause there is no light in America any more Most dont even know what this country is much less ever read the Constitution The truth is may 1st is the Beltane festival an occult ritual practice also known as the wickerman You poor fucking idiots you've been hood winked ounce again
Repeat the same ole same ole over and over and over and the sufficiently dumbed down are bound to believe the rhetoric. BHO is the epitome of a 'talking head.' Pun intended. But like a prolific journalist said recently, Obama may be the Head of the United States but he does not run its Empire. Methinks he's mirroring what he's told by those truly in control holding a gun to his head. Has flip-flopped on every promise of positive "change" he had made during his campaign for Pres. What a farce!
.. the true terrorists are ones war profiteering in the middle east. Osama is probably
behind those big wooden doors enjoying his banquet dinner. Strangely, Obama [rhymes with Osama] looks more un-natural than when terrorist bush read from cue cards back in the day .. body language speaks volumes
If you lower the sound effects you also lower his voice. I think the sound effects volume should be lowered the next time one of these is made..... Criticism aside I Love These...Pop-Up Fallacy videos....Can you imagine one of these on the Nightly news....LOL
@FuneralFragz You are someone who has gotten ahold of an idea, loves it and yet doesn't fully understand that idea. You seem to think that statements are logical fallacies, when in fact only arguments are fallacious. That you don't make this distinction is unfortunate, as you seem to want to make an argument about the duplicity of someone, yet you don't know how to begin to argue your point.
You dot know me, and I never argued or even selected a target to argue with. My statement is a general statement and you ASSUME Im directing an "argument" towards someone or something. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
OBL was a CIA asset and the news of his death was "delayed" to prop up Osama Obama and distract Americans from the his fraudulent long form and the bursting US dollar bubble.
@MSCompuServ Still clinging to the birther movement regardless of proof, eh? Ask yourself if there is anything that would change your mind about that.
April 29, 2011-LONDON- Celebrations! British Royal Wedding wherein Kate was crowned May queen: UNION
April 30, 2011-ROME- Celebrations! Pope Benedict announces the beginning of the beatification process for John Paul II: HOLINESS
May 1, 2011-WASHINGTON- Celebrations! Alleged murder of Osama Bin Laden announced by President Obama: DEATH
These are not coincidences. This is choreographed pagan ritual unification of the 3-in-1 city-state.
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This is one very "drab" video. =p
gusmcleod922 3 weeks ago
@GnosticMedia
Have you ever considered that you yourself are using logical fallacies, thereby rendering yourself less credible? A logical fallacy is not exclusively a lie, it's ridiculous if you count an appeal to emotion as a 'lie'. The "lies per minute" is bogus.
It's a shame because I appreciate your mission and all your other works. Don't play the games your opposition does, I beg you.
DMRichBoi 3 weeks ago
He doesn't even deserve to be called a n*****. Half breed lying bastard.
Krisesakes 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012, plz just google him.
Silver3xterior 1 month ago
Throughout this ENTIRE fucking presentation he didn't show a fucking slide, a fucking imag,e a fucking clip, a fucking video, backing up the claims he made! AHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!!! It's amazing how the public will believe ANYTHING even while there is no PROOF!!!
Josephjoel3 2 months ago
@Josephjoel3 Their proof is a sharp looking man, dressed up in a suite reading elegantly off of a teleprompter with an Academy Award-level demeanor, giving the usual dose of lies and propaganda to the masses.
NothingAtAllXD 4 weeks ago
@NothingAtAllXD You are 100% on point!
Josephjoel3 4 weeks ago
seems every six seconds obama is programmed to lie and so it seems he likely gets paid/rewarded for reading the teleprompter buy/by/bi being granted what could be termed/deemed as "sick sex" six secs is not success nor is sick-sex.
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@01:59 we offered the wounded our blood.... who the fuck says that
gnosiszeal 2 months ago
its hard to try and listen to this guy justify murder again....
revchriss 3 months ago
Obama himself is an utter fallacy, lol
I don`t need a video for the details :)
aethir86 3 months ago 2
ZIONIST ILLUMINATI BILDERBURG LYING TWAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell him to look you in the eye!!!! NOT THE EYE OF HORUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i am getting sick sorry i cant listen to this crap he has sent army s out thay have killed 300,000 kids what did thay do . and yes 300,000 kids sinces he came in. We have to forgive ourselfs for picking him i also wanted him in,we were all sold out.love and peace on this day 11.11.11
paulkel11 3 months ago 3
Its foreign policy law that you cannot enter another persons country and murder any civlians or any countryman there without a trial. After all there is NO solid links ties or evidence connecting Bin Laden to the 911 attacks. There is however plenty of evidence tying him to the Bush family through years of joint family business and mutually beneficial deals lol
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thanks to the tireless efforts of the US gov against mickey mouse in a cave I can now announce that we are all safe america!
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this is brilliant omg make more please
uwmbigb 4 months ago
Trivium ftw, brilliant video
Almir1618Preldzic 5 months ago
Balance the audio!! You need to turn UP the speaking by about 25% and turn DOWN the pop up noise by 75%.
BastionKnight 5 months ago
@BastionKnight true popup audio is frighteningly loud
uwmbigb 4 months ago
How have 176 people "liked" this? I'm very interested to hear it, but I have to crank the speakers to hear Obama and the pop up noises hit like bricks every time... I made it about 10 seconds in before I had to shut it off to keep myself from throwing this laptop out the window.
BastionKnight 5 months ago
this pissses me off. i cant believe people still follow this fool. he is the biggest show of proof that the position of president is a figurehead position. any power one could exorcise in such a position, is subject to swift retribution. i.e assassination.
he came in with the same agenda as bush just a different face and a somewhat smoother talker. we voted for him but they dont make it clear that our votes mean nothing. that means on a real scale how much power do we have? and why does
hauntedebony 5 months ago
@hauntedebony no one notice that the will of the people in our current political situation is loosing all impact it might have once had?
they make it seem like our forefathers seen this world of today coming and fought as hard against it as they could. and we still got it.
hauntedebony 5 months ago
Obama sounds like a zombie. Only other zombies can actually believe what he says. An awake person can see through his performance.
ucvessel 5 months ago
Don't mean to be a dick, but "everyone else recognizes" that we have 5 senses is a fallacy in itself, isn't it? I believe senses are one of those "unproveable" etheral subjects that is mostly appeal to belief. Arguing the number of senses from either side is, basically, a moot argument. What is important is understanding the process, or the idea being conveyed. Thank you.
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maelaurel1 5 months ago
Hmm... Isn't using the handle 'SciMethod' a veiled attempt @ ad verecundiam - an (inappropriate) appeal to authority... if a "Scientist" thinks so, it MUST be true"?
TheEppg 6 months ago
I know this is a serious issue and all, but LOL at the violin
MoniqueIuna 6 months ago
telepromter reading fag 911 was an inside job how come your top priority is keeping the first responders from the 911 aneversary he don't want the world to know lie lies lies treason Impeach obama now we are vigilant and listening and figuring out this obama administration and its lies/propaganda
RON PAUL 2012 End the fed Stop the fake unjust wars
rhinolimits21 6 months ago
JEWS WRITE HIS SPEACHES...HE IS JUST A PUPPET OF THE ZIONIST LOBBY IN THE USA...HOUSE NIGGER !!!
WORLDWARIIIVERYSOON 6 months ago
He can't read the tele-prompter. Another phoney!
haraldschl 6 months ago
The person who made this video does not know what logical fallacies are. He seems to think because he knows Latin that he can logically deduce the meanings of all words in English. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Read about logical fallacies and then you'll have a better understanding of why you are wasting your time. There are MANY people who don't know what logical fallacies are, as demonstrated by the number of positive comments you are getting.
SciMethod 7 months ago
Think of a logical fallacy as a path you need to take to get somewhere. The path is the argument. The destination is the point you are trying to make (thesis). If a path is blocked or goes nowhere, it doesnt' help you get to your destination. A logical fallacy is like a path that doesn't go where you want it to go. This doesn't mean that there aren't paths to go where you want to go. A failed argument (a logical fallacy) does not demonstrate that there are no valid arguments possible.
SciMethod 7 months ago
Just the sound of this puppet makes me sick,
notice the day (1 May) 'they' decided to announce the Intel BS story.
Obomba has been brought on to deliver the 'final stab in the back' of the body known as the USofA.
F$#king, lieing, Chicago Gay bathhouse dwelling, Harvard scumbag.
Definatly Rahm's bumboy.
iceisnice61 7 months ago
@iceisnice61 Look up "logical fallacies" on Wikipedia to get a better idea of how bad this video's arguments are. Yes, there were definitely some unsubstantiated claims made by Obama, so there was definitely something worth attacking, but this video belies an extreme ignorance of what logical fallacies are.
SciMethod 7 months ago
@SciMethod
no need dear Sir/Madam.
I don't do Wiki, and I agree with yr point.
As for Obomba, I stand by my extreme hyperbole, not the vid.
Take care
iceisnice61 6 months ago
9/11 was an inside job.Where is your birth certificate BARRY?
Glenmead 7 months ago
@RationalBullets you should stay off the net when you been drinking silly boy
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets Anyone can read your comments in here and see how clear it is that you have not looked into this fully. So no wonder you dont accept the proof that was given. You dont even know what it is.
100's of people didn't believe it either, and so they filed a court order and were shown all of the evidence. And a wide range of people from all across the spectrum done this. and not a single one denied it after having seen the proof by court order. NEXT!
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets You dont even know what the offcial story is, you have not looked at all the facts. But you deny it anyway. There was never an offcial claim that he was dead, until now. and 100's of people have confirmed this, on all sides.
No one is trying to force you to believe it. but you have to stop lying and making shit up. That is called disinformation, and you do everyone a disservice with your ignorant bullshit.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets I agree it should all be made public. Including the live video from the navy seal helmet cam that Obama, Biden, Gates, Hillary, Admiral Mullen, Donilon, Brennan, and quite a few others watched as it happened. Even though throwing women and children to the ground and shooting an unarmed man in the head would be brutal and might outrage the Arab world, it should be made public. As should the photos that 100's have seen by court order, the court should make them public for all.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets No navy seal came on TV and said this is what we did, only to change their story latter on. It's pointless to debate with you. because you make things up. You distort the facts! GOOD BYE!
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets Further more his death was proven. It is you who refuses to accept it, bassed on your own fallacious arguments and distorted views.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets Many have stated why this video is wrong. In fact many of the fallacies listed are wrong. There's no counter argument at all. There's not even a demonstration for the fallacies listed. which had there been it would be clearer how fallacious the counter argument is, but since there isn't even one, makes it pure rhetoric.This video would hold no ground in a real classroom with an actual critical thinking teacher.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets The story changed quite a bit. Some jumped the gun on the hearsay they heard. It leaked it out. But in time an offcial version was given. I think one wife was there, and another one was brought in, or soemthing like that. Look guy, I thought he was dead to. but apparently he wasn't. whoopee do. It doesnt really matter. His death hasn't changed much. a little outrage is all. get over it!
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets No you shouldn't bring up red herring untrue rumors at all. It's a distraction!
That old faked photo was NOT released by the obama admin. It was shown on Pakistani TV. but i dont speak the language, like most in the US, we dont know what paki TV said when showing the 2010 artist rendition- The popular previously known about fake photo. that no offcial in the US ever shown for any type of evidence at all! why are you lying?
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets You didnt make a counter point at all. I had no idea what you needed to be proved. I guessed. because you did not say. You only spouted off a bunch of nonsense personal attacks, pure rhetoric.
and now you sate this: "No pics, witnesses, film, or confirmation outside of the Obama Administration." which isn't even true. His wife identified his body, as did others. which i already told you. Even Al-Qaeda has confirmed his death. You're fishing for straws. It's pathetic.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets This video has a Genetic Fallacy. The video says Obama was reported dead in the past, this is true. However, he was reported to have died do to health reasons in Dec. 2001. In a tabloid newspaper in Egypt. That turned out to be false. And some people speculated that he might be dead. Speculation isn't proof of anything though.
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets Are you kidding me? How much proof do you need? There is video of Osama watching curent news on TV. His wife identified the body. DNA samples were collected. Congress saw pictures of his body.
CandySlices 7 months ago
Please take some time to look up the wikipedia pages on logical fallacies. I like what you a re doing, but it kills me that you are doing such a poor job, as you don't seem to know the purpose of logical fallacies. They demonstration merely that an argument is fallacious. These videos show that you know next to nothing about this subject area. It's too bad, too, because so many people need education on this topic.
SciMethod 7 months ago 2
These videos are also confusing, as some of the pop-ups are not fallacies at all. "Burden of proof" is not a fallacy. Nor is "neglected aspect."
SciMethod 7 months ago 2
When searching Google for "appeal to rumor" or "..rumour" you will find fewer than 1,000 pages. Why use such obscure naming? A better choice of fallacies would be "bare assertion fallacy," pointing out that it would be illogical to believe this, as there has been no proof provided (no photos, no recordings) that Bin Laden was killed there. In fact, there was no evidence in the months intelligence agencies supposedly staked out the place that Bin Laden was even there.
SciMethod 7 months ago
@RationalBullets You're wrong. You would get an F in a debate class.
example: Person A- Global warming is true, because of X, Y and Z.
Person B- No, global warming is false, because you're using an appeal to an emotion, fear.
Conclusion: YOU FAIL
CandySlices 7 months ago
I don't mean to be rude or anything. But quite an awful lot of those fallacies listed are incorrect.
gnostictree 7 months ago
@RationalBullets If you wanted to prove that someone is wrong about something, pointing out how the wrong conclusion was made, only works if an actual argument to support your position is made as well. Other wise it's pure rhetoric. Just like your comment is!
CandySlices 7 months ago
@RationalBullets Now that you mention it, I guess he does say you sir. been years since I seen his show. dont really care at all. That has nothing to do with anything. Regardless of what tool labels you like to use for others, and even yourself. Now that is something to luz about!
CandySlices 7 months ago
I can't stand this war criminal moron!
DazeyLin 7 months ago
EXCELLENT!! Hate to say it, but the popups are a tiny bit loud - if you turn it down too much you can't hear this moron talk.. only saying that because I have to be quiet now the kids are in bed.. :-) But this is fantastic!
DazeyLin 7 months ago
Do a pop up of Ron Pauls videos. That would be easy. NO FUCKING POP UPS!
87cadillachearse 7 months ago 3
9.48 what a spectacular load of shite. I can recall a few races and creeds that Americans did not tolerate at all in the wake of 9/11.
muddy2 7 months ago
These are not fantastic videos. Whoever makes these seems to think that anytime you have something that looks like a fallacy, then it is a fallacy. Fallacies are arguments that don't work -- that is, fallacious arguments. If there is an argument that is fallacious, then it gets categorized as one of the fallacies. However, there has to be an argument. Many arguments are implicit, unstated. Simply pointing out a fallacy without pointing out what the implied argument is, is useless.
SciMethod 7 months ago
@SciMethod You Sir. are absolutely correct. These pop up fallacy videos are a fallacy themselves. They present no real argument for anything at all. It's complete rhetoric.
CandySlices 7 months ago 3
@SciMethod Fallacies are lies - Latin Fallare. The very foundation of logic is to be able to spot the lies in the information entering in via the 5 senses. It is NOT necessary to make a counter "argument" to point out others' lies. That's dumb. That would make the point of logic useless in the first place. If someone is lying to you, there is no need to make a counter argument. The idea is to know when you're being lied to. Whom ever told you you need a counter argument lied to you.
GnosticMedia 7 months ago 14
@GnosticMedia Wikipedia's definition: "Informal fallacies are arguments that are fallacious for reasons other than structural (formal) flaws and which usually require examination of the argument's content." A logical fallacy describes an argument (implied or not) that has a problem. Your videos rarely if ever explain what those arguments are.
SciMethod 7 months ago 2
@GnosticMedia Whenever you point out that someone is employing logical fallacies, you are implicitly making an argument that someone else is making an argument (explicit or implicit) that is not logical. Logical fallacies are not the same as lies, and stating that they are based on the Latin etymology of "fallacy" is itself a genetic fallacy.
SciMethod 7 months ago
@GnosticMedia If you think someone is lying. You have to make an actual case proving that it's a lie.
You can't just say they're lying, without actually proving it.
Obama must be lying, because he is appealing to emotions.
He may be lying, and or he may not be lying, regardless if emotions were appealed to or not.
CandySlices 7 months ago 3
@CandySlices Yes, this is correct. I would love this person's videos so much if they actually taught the fallacies properly, but these videos focus on statements, not arguments. This is not how fallacies ought to be pointed out. This is worthless, even though many people don't know what the fallacies are and simply laud these videos.
SciMethod 7 months ago 2
@GnosticMedia there are more than 5 senses.
volound 7 months ago 6
@volound Please name them. Touch, taste, smell, sight, hearing. This is how our minds bring in data. We're not talking about mystical make shit up and call it real. We're talking about the physical 5 senses. Maybe you're a lizard alien or something that's figured out how to have more than everyone else. I guess that makes you special. But for the last 3000 years or so, everyone else recognizes that we have 5.
GnosticMedia 7 months ago
@GnosticMedia have you ever felt hungry or thirsty? which sense did you use to detect it?
.......can you hear that?........ thats the sound of realization that you are fractally wrong, and (if youre not also mentally deficient) thats the sound of you realizing youve fallen prey to an urban myth akin to "different parts of the tongue have different roles" or "deoxygenated blood is blue", both of which you probably also believe.
foolhardy idiot.
do you really want me to list them all, verbose?
volound 7 months ago
@GnosticMedia I would argue that thinking, or memory, is a sense. Perhaps not sensual, but as a tool to organize information about "reality", sure. Or perhaps the sense of emotion.
RishiB 7 months ago
@RishiB No, thinking, the brain, is how we process the information coming in from the 5 senses. It's not a sense in itself. The brain can't hear, feel, touch, taste, smell or anything else, even have emotion, without information coming to it from the 5 senses. What could it possibly be emotional toward, without input via the 5 senses? You're putting the cart before the horse.
GnosticMedia 7 months ago
@GnosticMedia Sense of balance. That's at least six.
Paradi9mShif7 6 months ago
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volound 6 months ago
@GnosticMedia
See... It's comments like these which call your credibility into question... I like what you're doing here. You're pointing out lies based on logic. That's a GOOD thing.... But then you become arrogant and like most scientists, assume you know everything. You simply DO NOT KNOW how many senses humans have. No one does. You take something which is "accepted" (5 senses) and preach it as fact simply because it's "accepted". Isn't THAT a logical fallacy in and of itself?
mc1135 6 months ago
You can't sell yourself as an intelligent, thoughtful person without FIRST acknowledging how LITTLE we know as a species. In this video, you rip apart Obama's speech because his entire position hinges upon LIES... Lies like "9/11 was carried out by terrorists in caves." Because we know these are lies, we can totally deflate Obama's logic. But when you posit, "There are 5 senses", you're saying it based on something you were told by the establishment without questioning it. "Accepted" ≠ "truth"
mc1135 6 months ago
And now the kicker.... Acknowledging there may be more than 5 senses doesn't even damage your position on logical fallacies. Even if there are 20 senses, fallacies are STILL determined based on the info which comes in via those senses. I'd say, if most humans used more than 10% of their brains and more than 5 senses, log. fallacies would be even MORE easily spotted. So why get all dickish with someone who asserts there are more than 5 senses when that position poses no threat to your argument?
mc1135 6 months ago
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MrVerisimilitude 6 months ago
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"everyone else recognizes"??? That is a logical fallacy.
We all have more than the 5+ physical senses, though most people have been trained to not use or be aware of them.
MrVerisimilitude 6 months ago
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@GnosticMedia why didnt you respond?
volound 6 months ago
@GnosticMedia Actually, here's a non-inclusive list of senses that we know of: touch, taste, smell, sight, hearing... hunger, thirst, balance, position, toxicity, respiration, capacity, pain and temperature.
I suppose one could argue thirst is the sixth sense. ;)
SexyMelon 5 months ago in playlist More videos from GnosticMedia
@SexyMelon ...ummm no, thirst in NOT a sense it is simply your body requiring fluids, much like hunger is your body telling you it requires food. We do not engage with the outer world via our thirst or our hunger.
There are ONLY 5 known sense, except for the little kid who see's dead people in that M. Night Shamalama flick, what was that movie called? oh yeah "Sixth Sense", huh, go figure.
TheSilvertones 5 months ago
@TheSilvertones Don't you FEEL thirst? Don't you FEEL hunger? ;)
Feelings and senses aren't just about taking information from the outside. That's exactly what people usually forget about.
Just as you forget about the fact that "Touch" isn't so simple either, there are seven known types of skin receptors alone: pressure, temperature, pain, and others that I forget right now... Plus, each of the little hairs on your body can sense whether it is raised or flat, and much more.
SexyMelon 5 months ago
@SexyMelon Okay, first we need to define what a sense is because what you are talking about and what I'm talking about are not jiving. What I'm talking about are the sense in which we precieve the outside world and by which we can have understanding. In this case, things like thirst, hunger, pain etc..do not apply because my hunger only tells ME that I'M hungry, I cannot identify a object with my thirst or hunger. My sense of smell may trigger my thirst or hunger, much like ...(to be continued)
TheSilvertones 5 months ago
@TheSilvertones - I meant Persieve
TheSilvertones 5 months ago
@TheSilvertones (con't) ....much like my sense of touch may trigger pain if I touch a hot stove top
TheSilvertones 5 months ago
@TheSilvertones Yeah, yeah, whatever... I think you know what I meant.
SexyMelon 5 months ago
@volound Red Herring
surfchickade 6 months ago
@surfchickade simply naming a logical fallacy does nothing.
volound 6 months ago
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surfchickade 6 months ago
@GnosticMedia Fallacies are not lies, they are errors in logic. Pocket Oxford English Dictionary: "a mistake in reasoning which makes an argument invalid". I don't know what the hell you're giving us Latin for. Anyways, what would make this video of more value is explaining exactly what the argument is at each point and why each type of fallacy applies. Those random pop ups are of minimal use really, although they serve to help persons to take a closer look at what he is saying.
MoniqueIuna 6 months ago
@SciMethod A fallacy can also be called a falsity, or a misleadity, or a bullshitty, or you could simply say what he is : a lier, a speaker with snake tongue, speaker with fork tongue.
It is easy to see the truth in his speech though, its the opposite of everything he says is true.
Great work Gnostic media, i think all public servants should be put through the fallacy filter.
stiffex 7 months ago
@stiffex Child, when someone tries to teach you, you will not listen. Google logical fallacies if you will learn that you are wrong. Ignore it if you will. I don't care. You are ignorant of logical fallacies.
SciMethod 7 months ago
Obummer dunt comunicate as a normal leader would he excretes fallacies instead, indeed his middle name should be Tol, an acronym for Tissue of Lies.
stiffex 7 months ago
the silver tongued liar
muzapstar 7 months ago
This is fantastic
garrethdavis 7 months ago
I think this is the first time of my life that I could stand listening to a politician not named Ron Paul for so long.
Shezmu 7 months ago 3
"...there's no volume switch", "... the sound is too loud..." POP! Red Herring son.
complaining about the sounds effects and failing to focus on the information.
kelpop12 7 months ago
"...there is no volume switch", "... the sound is too loud..." POP! Red Herring.
Stop complaining about the sounds effects and focus on the information.
kelpop12 7 months ago
Thanks so much, I have much to learn! Subscribed.
TheUltraNinja 7 months ago
@TheUltraNinja Go read the wikipedia entries on fallacies. The person making these videos ought to do the same.
SciMethod 7 months ago
Jan, weel done , indeed.
BTW, what video editor did you use? I love the graphics
EDBMD 7 months ago
Interesting, I've never had the interest to sit through an entire Presidential address.
Quite nostalgic with pop-up hilarity and impressive LPM, wowzers!
evilforalltime 7 months ago
Great video!! I learned all the Ad Hominems involved. Btw, since Obama is Muslim he sided with Osama also, haha, Tu Quoque Ad Hominem. Phh,but i guess its true, even without the Muslim factor.
MonkeySpecs301 8 months ago
Outstanding, thanks for the great work.
ctlawsonhnw 8 months ago
The scumbag Nazi Nigger has commented another illegal act. But hey you low life's wanted this garbage cause you wanted a free hand out. This Freemason Satanist is much loved by all & can never be brought to a true light cause there is no light in America any more Most dont even know what this country is much less ever read the Constitution The truth is may 1st is the Beltane festival an occult ritual practice also known as the wickerman You poor fucking idiots you've been hood winked ounce again
WarDogLRS 8 months ago
@WarDogLRS lol
D0cGer0 8 months ago
You should do a POP UP FALLACIES for the Republican debates!.....
Caelidh 8 months ago 3
@Caelidh I plan on doing them for all the presidential debates.
GnosticMedia 8 months ago 5
Very nice Jan. love it! Keep'em coming :)
DecentralizedByGuilt 8 months ago
Very nice..I still couldn't listen to that dribble much past a minute, but I like the concept A LOT!
jesusisaklingon 8 months ago
Repeat the same ole same ole over and over and over and the sufficiently dumbed down are bound to believe the rhetoric. BHO is the epitome of a 'talking head.' Pun intended. But like a prolific journalist said recently, Obama may be the Head of the United States but he does not run its Empire. Methinks he's mirroring what he's told by those truly in control holding a gun to his head. Has flip-flopped on every promise of positive "change" he had made during his campaign for Pres. What a farce!
neilemac 8 months ago
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esotericodour 8 months ago
Disgustingly funny!
esotericodour 8 months ago
This White boy sure is a big @ss Lair.
MrSchpankme 8 months ago
wow, amazing job!
matsutakneatche 8 months ago
What wreckage in Shanksville? Nothing to see here folks, move along...
theylive23 8 months ago
.. the true terrorists are ones war profiteering in the middle east. Osama is probably
behind those big wooden doors enjoying his banquet dinner. Strangely, Obama [rhymes with Osama] looks more un-natural than when terrorist bush read from cue cards back in the day .. body language speaks volumes
ResistNWOrder 8 months ago
Does anyone believe that any American Politician can make a speech without all this ra ra go america bullshit? Well besided Jimmy Carter.
InKa4484 8 months ago
Wow!! Appeal to Emotion is their Favorite
gtyme125 8 months ago
If you lower the sound effects you also lower his voice. I think the sound effects volume should be lowered the next time one of these is made..... Criticism aside I Love These...Pop-Up Fallacy videos....Can you imagine one of these on the Nightly news....LOL
gtyme125 8 months ago
This is pretty much the stupidest video I've ever seen.
robhoneycutt 8 months ago
@robhoneycutt
Appeal to Ridicule
lucifursam 8 months ago 2
@robhoneycutt you believe in man made global warming, you obviously are completely ignorant of the Trivium. lol
matsutakneatche 8 months ago
No feeling, no emotion, boring, never heard him speak a word w/o reading it. He truly is an American experiment gone bad!
Love the pop-ups though, GREAT job!
mikestheman3 8 months ago
Is there a list and description of all the known fallacies? Some are obvious but others I've never heard of and have no clue....
We need more of this as practice and demonstration to help us spot the lies!
OneCosmicParent 8 months ago
@OneCosmicParent Wikipedia has several good pages on logical fallacies.
SciMethod 7 months ago
Well done!
motorolarules 8 months ago
Thanks for making that small change. It really did help change the tone.
A.G.
AussieGriffin 8 months ago
the sound effects are loud as FUCK! what is wrong with you?
OscarMaris 8 months ago 2
@OscarMaris Just trying to piss you off, since you can't find the volume switch.
GnosticMedia 8 months ago 25
@GnosticMedia there is no volume switch for the sound effects only. *pop* fallacy...
jeffmoppi 7 months ago
@GnosticMedia brilliant, cause now i cant hear what he was saying
eduardoobregon 7 months ago
@eduardoobregon I has same problem :(
christofthedead 7 months ago
@OscarMaris Go to lower middle task bar, right click, go to POP-UP volume control, click on POP-UP filter, click MUTE.
mikestheman3 8 months ago
Everything is a lie.
FuneralFragz 8 months ago
@FuneralFragz Look up "logical fallacies" on wikipedia. Fallacies are not the same as lies, although fallacies can be used to lie.
SciMethod 7 months ago 6
@SciMethod
Fully aware on the subject.
My post still stands.
EVERYTHING IS A LIE...
FuneralFragz 7 months ago
@FuneralFragz You are someone who has gotten ahold of an idea, loves it and yet doesn't fully understand that idea. You seem to think that statements are logical fallacies, when in fact only arguments are fallacious. That you don't make this distinction is unfortunate, as you seem to want to make an argument about the duplicity of someone, yet you don't know how to begin to argue your point.
SciMethod 7 months ago
@SciMethod
First off, wow...
You dot know me, and I never argued or even selected a target to argue with. My statement is a general statement and you ASSUME Im directing an "argument" towards someone or something. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
FuneralFragz 7 months ago
@FuneralFragz My last message was intended for the maker of this video, not you. Confusion, my apologies.
SciMethod 7 months ago
OBL was a CIA asset and the news of his death was "delayed" to prop up Osama Obama and distract Americans from the his fraudulent long form and the bursting US dollar bubble.
MSCompuServ 8 months ago 15
@MSCompuServ Still clinging to the birther movement regardless of proof, eh? Ask yourself if there is anything that would change your mind about that.
skelepieow 8 months ago