Americans out of Afghanistan?? Bro did you not watch the movie?? It's the Taliban that needs to get the hell out! Thank God for our Marines and soldiers who avenging Hassan
@Crusader818: It's not as simple as Taliban = villian and America = hero.. there are many accounts of US and other Western soldiers raping, torturing and murdering Afghan civilians. But hopefully Afghanistan can get back on their own feet without depending too heavily on external foreign forces soon.
@Crusader818 You're stupid you lot should get the hell out. You illegally entered Afghanistan and killed over 50,000 of them. You are the evil ones not the Taliban. For example yesterday with the news of the Marines urinating on the dead bodies of the taliban; vile, sick, inhumane behaviour that was.
American troops (the real terrorists) need to get the hell out of Afghanistan. They've ruined the country in every possible way; stop the imperialism.
Kite runner is a fictional book, it showed the Afghans as a typically evil race. Khalid Husseini is a munafiq and I pray that he is punished/humiliated in this life and the next.
@airpickone How the hell did he show them as an evil race? If anything he tried to show us the other side of afghanistan. Take your damn munafiq somewhere else.
@airpickone It didn't show them as an evil race! Anybody could be like Assef and the taliban, and some people are evil, muslim or otherwise! I thought it was an amazing book and a good movie, and it not once made me think "oh wow, afghans are such evil people".
@NoMusicNoLife1994 Yes he did, The Kite Runner has about as much truth about the Afghans and the Taliban as Harry Potter did about the British. All the Kite Runner, did was give westerners this self content so when people here that 'another 9 children were killed by NATO forces' they think oh well its better then the Taliban Rapists etc. The story of "Baba" and his attitude towards Afghan Culture and Religion are completely contrary to almost every Afghan in Afghanistan.
@NoMusicNoLife1994 I'm sorry but I have argued with so many people about the realities of Afghanistan and the 'factual evidence' they ALWAYS use is from the Kite Runner. Its ridiculous and because of the strong emotions the book makes them feel they refuse to give up this childish and fictional mindset. So as I said before, I hope Khalid is humiliated for the falsehood and lies he has spread in aim of making a few dollars.
O My Lord, My sins are like The highest mountain; My good deeds Are very few They’re like a small pebble. I turn to You My heart full of shame, My eyes full of tears. Bestow Your Forgiveness and Mercy Upon me. Ya Allah, Send your peace and blessings On the Final Prophet, And his family, And companions, And those who follow him.
Me and my class saw this movie, and when this song appeared, i almost began to cry. Not because i'm a muslim, I almost began to cry because of the movie..
Thia film made me cry so long ,and hate Russia (altought i m living here ).I wish to visit That Afganistan ,when Hassan and Amir were children ,that was real Kabul ,like from my dad s storie !
Such a beautiful prayer...from clearly a sincere and contrite heart. The beauty of a man who can express what is plainly in his heart in this fashion is rare in secular settings but so prevalent within Islam!
"I dream of my son will grow up to be a good person. A free person. I dream of someday you will return to revisit the land of our childhood. I dream of flowers will bloom in the streets again. And kites were flying in the sky."
So beautiful how the essence of this beautiful story can be told in a breathtaking 1 minute 34 seconds long song......every time I listen to it I am spellbound!
I turn to you...my heart full of shame.....my eyes full of tears......
Hello everyone, I just want to say that this is a great movie so I give 5*****. I love and respect foreing cultures because each has nice things to learn.
Hermanos latinoamericanos les recomiendo ver esta película.
you know what the problem is with all these people who disaprove my comments? You are all afraid to be called racists or 'closed-minded'!
The fact is that you all know why the middle-east is fucked up and I'm not saying the west played a big part in it but Islam plays an even bigger part!
Religion in general is nothing but bullshit to control the minds of people who can't think for themselves!
@Shahin2102 Just because someone disagrees with your conception of things it does not mean they are afraid of being called racist or closed-minded. Get over yourself the world isn't black and white there are billions of people out their all of whom have their own take on things. They may not be the same as yours but that doesn't make them any less valid.
you're right, not all of you are afraid to be called racist, some of you actually believe that every human being on this planet has good in it and deserves to live. Honorable though stupid thought. Some people don't deserve to live, no matter how much good they have inside them, it will never outrun all the evil things they have done in this world! Look at the taliban! You think this is normal??
@Shahin2102 Europe is bigger than the small world you seem to live in I also live in Europe - the people I've met know there are shades of grey in every walk of life. A community, culture, country, is not defined by a mere handful of its occupants but by its universal values and beliefs. As for some people not deserving to live, what gives you the right to decide this? A statement such as that makes you just as bad as the terrorists you so passionatley speak against.
i never decided anything, it's just my humble opinion. I don't care whether you think like this or not, the day your family members get raped and murdered by savage fucking arabs who did it in the name of Allah, you'll get my point.
But you just go being your pacifist self. The world will certainly get in better shape if you promote Allah just a little more!!
Well thats a sick thought but if heaven forbid anything like that were to happen to a family member of mine, I would be out for the person who did its blood however I would not begin to hate an entire race for it or wish death upon a race, why harm other innocent people. Like I said before it just makes you as bad as them. I'm not a pacifist, I'm a realist. I understand there are good/bad people in the world but this doesn't make all of mankind evil. The same applies to religon and countries.
no it doesn't make all religious people bad, but as I said to tigergirl when 9 out of 10 arabs I meet are all like savage animals - vandalising, stealing, harrassing, cursing, leeching, etc...- I don't bother making an exception for the 10% who are more or less human.
Maybe, as you are a realist, you should go to muslim countries and witness the Sharia law, or why not going to countries with islamic regimes, that ought to open your eyes!
@Shahin2102 It is a thought, to write something down, you must first cultivate the thought/idea.
You couldn't have met many arabs, if your perception is 99% of them are bad - thats an absurd figure. Many countries have corrupt govts and legal systems, even (shock horror) some European ones. Sharia law as practised in some Muslim countries is not true to the law set out in Islam, its merely a case of govts changing everything around to suit their own needs i.e. This happens everywhere.
really is it? Go cultivate the idea with my family who suffered under the sharia law. Then come back to me to tell me about my perception of islam and arabs.
I've seen many arab countries, all of them the same! Sharia may not be a legalized law system in some arab countries but that doesn't mean it's not used!
@Shahin2102 You said 'the day your family...' this I was referring to as a thought. At no point did you insinuate something like this happenned to your family. I'm sorry it did and I can understand why your so bitter now. However I still maintain a whole race shouldn't be judged by a few people. Members of my family have been racially abused by white people does this mean I should loathe all white people?
But when it happens several times and year after year you hear what has happened to people you love, you start to hate them. I hope it never happens to you but i do hope you could just feel the pain it brings along.
No not everyone is bad. But I'm willing to hate people who have done me no harm rather than loving people who have caused us so much pain.
It hasn't happenned just once. Infact just a few months ago two kids were stabbed in a racial mob by white people. Hoping people can experience pain is nasty and trust me I have experienced pain of simillar magnitude and I would never wish it on other people! You go on hating innocent people, see if it brings you happiness, because as far as I can see living your life with hate can only bring more bitterness and depression. I don't love strangers and I don't hate them because I don't know them.
your example doesn't involve you, so of course it wouldn't have the same effect!
And no it doesn't make me any less of a happy person by hating the people who are responsible for millions of lives. I know I'm a good person for loving each and every being that is pure by heart and can think logically! Letting your child die because it is 'God's will' while she could have been saved with proper medication is what I call insanity! I have every right to hate people who think that simple and dumb!
'You love each and every being that is pure by heart and can think logically' we'll aren't you just full of contradictions. First of all if you hate all those who can't think logically you'r earlier statement of not having anything against faith is false. Secondly If you love evey being thats pure at heart your statement of 'willing to hate people who do me no harm' i.e. people you don't know anything about (purity of heart included) is also false. As for the whole letting your child die bit I
There's nothing wrong with pure faith. Faith in something higher, apart from fucking doctrines and religous laws!
willing to hate people who do me no harm is something personnal. Hating people who think illogical and get obsessed by what other people tell them to do, that was my point.
@Shahin2102 I have nothing against you using the word 'hate' what does irk me however is your contradictory posts. Faith isn't independent of religion, religion is embodied in faith so....
faith is independent of religion. I'm living proof lol. I do believe in a higher power, but in my eyes that power can be anything. But you don't see me building shrines, setting up doctrines, brainwashing people or converting them to my 'religion'.
Faith is purely the belief in a higher being, whatever that may be. Religion is the exploitation of faith through mass indoctrination and brainwashing.
@Shahin2102 faith is not the belief in a higher being it is merely the belief in ANYTHING for which there is no hard evidence to support Therefore faith is connected to religion and to say it's not is incredibly false.
Higher being, or anything else, whatever, the point is that religion is only connected to belief because it exploits belief. I didn't say religion is independent of faith.
@Shahin2102 I wasnt talking about sharia not being legalized, I was talking about it being legalized by corrupt govts who change the sharia law as depicted in the quran to suit their own needs. I know its used I also know its misused.
I've read them I know exactly what they're about and no I don't think they're bullshit. If used properly with the clarification of the Hadith at its side, they would actually form a pretty fair legal system
I live in Europe and almost every european I know is sick of vandalising, lazy, opportunistic, hateful arabs/muslims who insult the west like there's no tomorrow though they leech like sponges of western social cares and wellfare!
Everyone I know, knows this, though society has made it so hard for people to express their true thoughts because as soon as the word 'muslim' or 'arab' comes out of their mouths everyone points at them and calls 'em 'racists'.
this one really touched me in the great movie. i do not care if the lyrics are not totally wise in my ears or about religion or whatever, right now. the human, soul aspect sings higher, and i am thankful for it.
@onetwo1239 listen download youtube to mp3 converter something along them lines and all you need to do with that is paste whatever "url's" from anywhere and press download x
Dudes seriously, get a life. Find something better to do than come on youtube and argue with randomers. You wanna argue go find a forum that cares about any intolerant opinions and talk all you want.
@Shahin2102 That's not prejudice or completely unnecessary or anything. Nope. Um, to ask it politely, what the fuck is wrong with you and is there a surgery to fix it? I'll pay if you don't have the money for a soul. Seriously.
That's absolutely charming; you're quoting the person who wrote the Communist Manifesto. That gains you -so- many brownie points. Really.
Even if a person travels the world with a mirror in front of their face, he will only ever experience himself. For all I care, you could have been to every oriface of the Earth. But without considering what is around you and taking your own beliefs into the perspective of reality, the experience gives you nothing.
Saying that Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto proves your IQ. And believe me, I've seen the world and this is my conclusion. For the past 10 years I've done nothing but listening to other people's beliefs, and I must admit, religion gives culture a certain charm but I'm more than willing to give up that charm for world peace.
Implying that he didn't proves yours? I'm just going to throw it out there and say that absense or presence of religion isn't the sole influence on world peace. A five year old would understand this. Also, Marx did. It's not even up for interpretation, he flat out wrote it. Pick up an encycopedia, a history textbook, any accurate piece of literature and it'll tell you the same thing. So, what the fuck?
And after you get rid of religion, what next? Then people will fight because of government. Get rid of it. Then maybe because they live on a certain continent. Merge them! Then because they're different races. So, which differences should we get rid of first? Because none of them seem doable, just as getting rid of religion is impossible.
it is possible. Religion is fading in west european countries, and guess who makes the most reasonable decisions? Europe!
Only 2 or 3 years ago Bush invaded Iraq with a smile on his face and 'god bless America'. Who do you think most volunteers in the US army are? Either extreme nationalists or extremely religious people who believe they're fighting in god's name!
Western European countries are losing their religion in such a way that churches have become touristical attractions!
Hang on. Let's make a list of who Shahin thinks should be gotten rid of! (This may take a while) To allow for reasonable results, let's say that in order to eradicate the earth of what he doesn't like, the people who embody it must die (Because they won't convert.)
Nationalists
1 Billion Muslims
2 Billion Christians
900 Million Hindus
Approximately 1 Billion followers of other faiths
The US Army
After that, we still have people who will fight, by the way.
If you want world peace and you want to achieve this by getting rid of religion, and the majority of people who follow a faith WILL NOT CONVERT because you said so, the only thing left to do is get rid of them. It's called process of elimination. Learn it.
Don't you, like, have some -super- sweet 16 to organize? Actually, I'm not having one, thanks. I'm going to Japan for a week with my mother.
Oh true religion, really really mister? One day I'll be just as smart as -you-? That's swell.
Don't bring my fucking age into this. It's a bullshit tactic used by people who have nothing left to say. Thanks. You, too, have proven yourself simply not worth bothering with. This'll be great discussion for my AP World class though. Maybe I'll write a paper. "Exploring The Mind of a Fanatic."
lol tingled a weak spot? A bullshit tactic? you think you know more of religious fanatism while never been to a fanatic muslim country? tell me, ever experienced extreme violence? ever feared for your life? ever lost someone close to you because of some asshole's twisted ideology of God and the world??
You tell me what to think of a 16 year old american who has never seen true islam in its land of origin and never experienced the violence that goes along with it!
You tell me why as an atheist who supposedly doesn't believe in God, accepts religion?? Taking away religion ,you say, is taking away freedom. Is it ?? Does religion really give you the freedom of expressing and developping your own thoughts or does it brainwash you and forces you to believe what billions of others believe??
doesn't every human being think in its own unique way?? if you' agree with catholicism for 99.999% doesn't this mean that if you would still follow catholicism you'd betray your own unique way of thinking? becoming a cow in a herd of 1 billion other cows??
So let's add! If you kill people for peace, because they fight about race, who will you let live? Tell me, I need to keep a stat count. You've already gotten rid of my family, and at least 90 percent of my friends, by the way.
just answer 1 question: Ever been outside the states? Ever been to islamic countries? ever witnessed sharia? do you even know what sharia is? Ever read the quran? ever talked to a truly devoted muslim? if one of your answers is no, then i got nothing more to say to you than, go get some more information before you discuss such things. You have no idea how the world looks like.
First of all, yes. Second, YES. Third, I've read, I've watched videos, I've been there without being there. As in the Sharia Laws, yes. As a matter of fact, I fucking have, the same way I've read the Bible, and I've talked to devoted muslims who were reasonable, kind people! Have you?
Don't automatically say I don't know what the world looks like.
Are you saying shariah is wrong? If you studied sharia properly, you'll come to notice that sharia law in some muslims aren't even close to the real thing.
@SipahiWarrior I don't really care what the real thing is. Most arab countries have a sharia law that is violent, brutal and utterly barbaric. If the original sharia law isn't like this, then I will gladly say that the ORIGINAL sharia isn't so bad. FACT still remains that almost every PRESENT DAY sharia law is barbaric.
How can you judge original sharia to note? It hasn't even been properly implemented since the fall of the Ottoman empire (1923). Sharia law these days isn't sharia law, it has man made rules and regulations mixed up together, hence, making it a new law.
@SipahiWarrior I told you, present day sharia isn't what it used to be (as you said btw). Therefor PRESENT DAY sharia is bullshit and mere barbarism.
If Islam used to be much more tolerant and reasonable 1000 years ago then I may not have had anything against it. But NOW, at THIS TIME, Islam and Sharia are shit. You said it yourself, Sharia today isn't sharia as it originally used to be.
@Shahin2102 You shouldn't blame a faith because of what a group of people do. That's not needed especially you insulting my faith, that's not needed. I was expecting something positive out of this, I guess I was wrong.
You say i shouldn't blame faith for what a group of people do, but how can I? How many millions of innocents haven't been killed in the name of religion? Even if I were to blame only 'the people who abuse religion' then still i would disagree on the concept of religion itself.
Why can't you think for yourself? why do you have to think the same as millions of others think? Doesn't every man have his own unique way of thinking?
@Shahin2102 You're embarrassing your fellow atheists by doing exactly what we complain about: stereotyping. Please quit while you're ahead. You're only making us look like assholes.
@CashISloverly316 Actually you have two kinds of atheists; the first one just doesn't believe in God, but accepts other people's beliefs right or wrong. respectable enough.
The second kind doesn't believe in God, but only accepts those beliefs that do not harm others. I'm one of the latter.
I show respect for other religions, but I'm not afraid to express my opinion about things that seem completely wrong to me. You may find it acceptable that women are treated as shit, but I don't.
Yes, people can think, Islam does not forbid that, if that was the case, those Muslims back in the day, wouldn't have introduced our modern numeric system, soap, and innovate and invent in many fields of science and technology. Respect must be shown, that's the drawline between progression and ignorance.
what ancient muslims did (and most of them were actually persian, but anyways) has nothing to do with Islam. If I am a christian and invent something, does that make it a 'christian invention'??
How can people think when following religion?? Religious people only do what some book or some guy or some institution tells them to do! how can you call that thinking? They just blindly follow whatever they are told without even using their brains!
I find it very pathetic when people claim that they can only show respect for others because religion tells them to do so.
So if there is no God (I know, this isn't religion but faith i'm talking about), would this mean that you shouldn't try to be a good person anymore? Do you think that someone who prays 50 times a day has more chance to 'go to heaven' than someone who lives an equally good life but doesn't believe in God?
@Shahin2102 oh my god !!! cant you shut up??? you speak so much rubbish and no one even cares !!! dont you get the msg ?? no one cares who you r, what you think what you faith is or what you believe in!!! total idiot making a fool of your self!! look at all these comments! couldnt even be bothered reading one !! all just show one thing, and that is what an idiot you are!!
@antfernandez824 Neither do I care who someone believes in, I just find the concept of 'religion' quite idiotic because you are just joining a group of people who all think in the same way, do the same things and believe in the same thing. To me, that's (voluntary) brainwashing, not 'having faith'.
My friend, people should be respectful whatever their belief was. If people who do not believe in God thought of the other people who believe in God, then many things would be better. I really hope you the best.
@YusufAlIbrahim I am respectful towards other religions that leave people alone. I may be against it but I keep my mouth shut when I visit buddhist temples, zoroastrian shrines and hinu sanctuaries.
And trust me, many things would be better if people who believe in God would leave other people who believe in the same god alone. You point me out one atheist that is causing trouble these days. On the other hand you see christians burning qurans and muslims blowing up christians.
@Shahin2102 The problem my friend is from people. Sometimes people understand their religion the wrong way and they present it to others in a negative way. If someone studies religions, then he will eventually find the correct one.
@YusufAlIbrahim and why is it so important to uberhaupt have a religion? why isn't believing in A god enough? why does it have to be a doctrine that tells you how to pray, what to eat and not to eat, who to love, who to hate, etc?
What makes you think there IS a correct religion? What makes your religion better than that of anyone else? Why would God speak to so many people and make them fight each other for their differences? Why is a religious person better than a good atheist?
God created us and he will not benefit anything from us. It is us who benefit when we follow his orders. Believing in God isn't enough because we weren't created to have fun and play all the time, but to work and be treated. God sent his messengers one after the other and people follow them then people mislead the truth and that's why other messengers are sent. Until the last messenger was sent which we believe it was Muhammad (PBUH).
@Shahin2102 I do, how could that person enter heaven while he never believed there is one, when he denied the One God(Allah) and his messenger(Mohamed)? Off course there are many people who aren't religious and respectfull towards others but the thing is we can't define the true meaning of "good"! For example, a person can think he's a good person but maybe he only helps others because most of the times he knows he can benefit from it! Only god can seperate truly good people from the fake ones.
@ChicaAvecClasse I'm glad you gave that example. Well, isn't every good deed a selfish deed? Every good thing we do gives us a feeling of satisfaction and joy, so in a way you could say that everyone who does something good is selfish because he does that just to feel good himself.
@Shahin2102 Well I wouldn't say selfish because at the end there's also another person who benefits from your kidness. But I do doubt altruism because people can keep denying but everytime(!) you do something for another person you get someting back. Is it a thank you or maybe a good about yourself? Or in our religion (islam) we know that for every good deed we get "good points" (hassanats) which leads us a step closer to heaven.
@ChicaAvecClasse which brings me back to my very first comment: Why is it that "points" need to be earned? Can't people be good to each other without the belief that they will be rewarded for it in (a) heaven?
As I said, I find this notion of "let's be good so we'll be rewarded by god" very pathetic and narrow minded. It's like making a dog do some tricks and give him a bone to reward it.
@Shahin2102 Now you're mocking with the islam. I wonder if you know what islam truly contains?
You forget something very important God does not need anything from us, he doesn't benefit of non of the good deeds. He only gives us changes and guidance! Tell me please, what is this world we're living in? What does it give us? Nothing but innocent people getting killed, people who disrespect the believers... The real world is in the hereafter.
@ChicaNothing but innocent people getting killed and people who disrespect the believers?
Call me a racist or whatever, but when I see innocent people killed in the news, it very often happens to be by the hands of 'believers'. And you may think of me that i disrespect believers, but do not forget that it is the believers who claim that all who do not think like them will go to hell. it is the believers who think they are better than unbelievers, it is the believers who claim to know God.
@ChicaAvecClasse Personally I don't believe in good or bad. I think it's just a human invention. Just look at the laws of nature: no good or bad, just the course of events and survival. Morality is something that humans made in order to progress in life, in order to be able to make societies. If mankind wasn't social being, morality wouldn't matter. But since mankind needs to live in groups (family, society, etc), morality is needed so that all can have equal chances of survival.
@Shahin2102 Well... It's very interesting how you see it but (there's always a but:-))... I don't really agree because if the "real life" (events and survival) was indeed the real thing than what's the purpose of life? You wouldn't understand why we're in this world. And I just can't imaging life without religion, I know now what my goal is... And i'm not talking about a goal in this life but in the hereafter because that's what life's all about. You can't truly believe life ends after dead?
@ChicaAvecClass well ironicall you say that the purpose of life is in the afterlife. A bit strange don't you think? I have nothing against people trying to find the meaning and purpose of life, but that doesn't mean that I believe that mankind will ever find out. What life is, is something we can and will never know because it goed beyond our understanding, both spiritually and scientifically. When I try to think about what lies beyond the borders of the universe, I just bump into a white screen
@ChicaAvecClasse I think that is exactly the problem with religion: the fact that people care more about the afterlife, something no one has ever seen to give us any image of it, than life itself. Instead of constantly trying to get to heaven, why don't we start making this place, which is real, which is, for now, the only place we have, into a heaven?
We keep dreaming of a perfect world in the afterlife, but we fail make one in the real life.
@ChicaAvecClasse and when I said "go to heaven" I meant every person's illusion of heaven.A christian's heaven probably looks a lot different than yours, but both of you believe that being good opens your path to heaven (whatever it might be).
@Shahin2102 Yes we do, Heaven is the place were people go to if they've lead their lives as servants of Allah. We submit ourselves to Him and if we do it proper without any mockery etc we go to heaven (a place that makes this world look like a grain of sand in the dessert). If not, if you choose to live as an unbeliever, you go to hell. It's actually very simple but people make it look difficult. But unfortunatelly life is what it is and exactly that makes believing a challenge!
Well then call me an unbeliever and send me to hell. But I refuse to accept the words of men (prophets, priests, etc.) as the words of God. If there is a God, I'm quite sure he will forgive me for not believing in him when all his supposed followers are at war.
If God punished those who do not believe in him, then what a vengeful and uncertain creature must he be? and if he is uncertain, then he is only a reflection of mankind. Which can only mean that god is an invention of mankind.
omg the lyrics made me cry:(
Ayubi7y7 1 month ago
Americans out of Afghanistan?? Bro did you not watch the movie?? It's the Taliban that needs to get the hell out! Thank God for our Marines and soldiers who avenging Hassan
: )
Crusader818 1 month ago
@Crusader818: It's not as simple as Taliban = villian and America = hero.. there are many accounts of US and other Western soldiers raping, torturing and murdering Afghan civilians. But hopefully Afghanistan can get back on their own feet without depending too heavily on external foreign forces soon.
Dawnnxo 3 weeks ago
@Crusader818 You're stupid you lot should get the hell out. You illegally entered Afghanistan and killed over 50,000 of them. You are the evil ones not the Taliban. For example yesterday with the news of the Marines urinating on the dead bodies of the taliban; vile, sick, inhumane behaviour that was.
1Explosivez1 1 week ago
American troops (the real terrorists) need to get the hell out of Afghanistan. They've ruined the country in every possible way; stop the imperialism.
1Explosivez1 1 month ago
who could dislike this?
ailyas33 2 months ago
Touching movie had me in tears. “For you, a thousand times over.”
applecid1 3 months ago 4
sooooooooooo beutifulllll !!!!!
zAiNaB150592 3 months ago
beautifull!!
cameelah 3 months ago
Powerful prayer! Love it!
greeneyedevil36 3 months ago
what is the song called?
locosherman1 3 months ago
@locosherman1 supplication by Sami Yusuf
roshani479 3 months ago
I wish this song was longer, it's so wonderful.
sportskubby 5 months ago
amazing song, terrific voice!
amariateresinha 6 months ago 6
Beautiful song. :'( I wonder who wrote it?
bmaldito70 8 months ago
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morteza286 7 months ago
what is the name of this song and who created it?
raptor2128 8 months ago
@raptor2128 Sami Yusus - Supplication
RapTVHD 7 months ago
Such a beautiful song, I heard it today while watching The Kite Runner in class. So touching, it had an impact on me straight away!
NoMusicNoLife1994 8 months ago in playlist suzy collection
i'm not muslim or anything, (though my dad's family is) but i watched the movie in school & i absolutely love this song. it's perfect.
thealiceification 8 months ago
Kite runner is a fictional book, it showed the Afghans as a typically evil race. Khalid Husseini is a munafiq and I pray that he is punished/humiliated in this life and the next.
airpickone 9 months ago
@airpickone How the hell did he show them as an evil race? If anything he tried to show us the other side of afghanistan. Take your damn munafiq somewhere else.
Shahin2102 8 months ago
@airpickone It didn't show them as an evil race! Anybody could be like Assef and the taliban, and some people are evil, muslim or otherwise! I thought it was an amazing book and a good movie, and it not once made me think "oh wow, afghans are such evil people".
NoMusicNoLife1994 8 months ago in playlist suzy collection
@NoMusicNoLife1994 Yes he did, The Kite Runner has about as much truth about the Afghans and the Taliban as Harry Potter did about the British. All the Kite Runner, did was give westerners this self content so when people here that 'another 9 children were killed by NATO forces' they think oh well its better then the Taliban Rapists etc. The story of "Baba" and his attitude towards Afghan Culture and Religion are completely contrary to almost every Afghan in Afghanistan.
airpickone 8 months ago
@airpickone no body I have ever met has gotten that from the book or movie. maybe you're reading too much into this (no pun intended)
NoMusicNoLife1994 8 months ago
@NoMusicNoLife1994 I'm sorry but I have argued with so many people about the realities of Afghanistan and the 'factual evidence' they ALWAYS use is from the Kite Runner. Its ridiculous and because of the strong emotions the book makes them feel they refuse to give up this childish and fictional mindset. So as I said before, I hope Khalid is humiliated for the falsehood and lies he has spread in aim of making a few dollars.
airpickone 8 months ago
The Book was the most touching book i ve ever read!!!
lllSuNdeRlll 9 months ago 18
@lllSuNdeRlll I got to read the book!
hendibendi 4 months ago
ishfaqshams 10 months ago 2
Just heard this song in the Kite Runner. Beautiful. You don't have to be muslim to appreciate this song.
beccawashere45 11 months ago 61
@beccawashere45 i have loads off respect for u
tamzziebabiie 9 months ago
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sams211 11 months ago
Me and my class saw this movie, and when this song appeared, i almost began to cry. Not because i'm a muslim, I almost began to cry because of the movie..
5/5 stars, a movie direct from the reality.
Zentriino 11 months ago
Can we stop arguing please, this is a video, appreciate it...
This isn't a debating site...
Bilal96Sajid 11 months ago
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Rameez9447680576 The best movie on the planet!
The song shows that Islam teaches to love, rather than to hate.
In my part of the world, Malabar, South India, people still don't understands this!
Rameez9447680576 11 months ago
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Rameez9447680576 The best movie on the planet!
The song shows that Islam teaches to love, rather than to hate.
In my part of the world, Malabar, South India, people still don't understands this!
Rameez9447680576 11 months ago
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The best movie on the planet!
The song shows that Islam teaches to love, rather than to hate.
In my part of the world, Malabar, South India, people still don't understands this!
Rameez9447680576 11 months ago
The best movie on the planet!
The song shows that Islam teaches to love, rather than to hate.
In my part of the world, Malabar, South India, people still don't understands this!
Rameez9447680576 11 months ago
god bless our land and our people
Paghmani1sher 1 year ago
Thia film made me cry so long ,and hate Russia (altought i m living here ).I wish to visit That Afganistan ,when Hassan and Amir were children ,that was real Kabul ,like from my dad s storie !
SUKAEBANAIA 1 year ago
10 stupid! ..Very beautiful song!
Giulina1000 1 year ago
so beautiful, so sad
Sissymosier 1 year ago
What is the title of this nasheed so i can find it in full?
TinkleFingers 1 year ago
@TinkleFingers 'supplication' by Sami Yusuf, Album - Al Mu'allim.
wow this track is full of awe and beauty
peachey1986 1 year ago
I have read many books in my life. BUT I have never ever read a book like The kite runner. Omg suck a touching story and cried..
Babyhgirl2 1 year ago
Such a beautiful prayer...from clearly a sincere and contrite heart. The beauty of a man who can express what is plainly in his heart in this fashion is rare in secular settings but so prevalent within Islam!
greeneyedevil36 1 year ago
"I dream of my son will grow up to be a good person. A free person. I dream of someday you will return to revisit the land of our childhood. I dream of flowers will bloom in the streets again. And kites were flying in the sky."
Quote Hassen, letter to Amir. The Kite runner.
xhmoobx 1 year ago
Luv this scene in the movie and the book is also amazing, Khalid Husseini is truely a touching writer...
prettyinpiink18 1 year ago
Cry everytime when I hear this song
leedaphne 1 year ago
plz upload the full song plz
awaargi555 1 year ago
not song naat my brothers.
Alirezatv2 1 year ago
beautiful song, great movie. shows the passion, courage, loyalty . makes me happy
gavgavgav223 1 year ago
Very touching song! If someone's heart is full of shame, then his eyes will never be full of tears... somebody else's eyes will be filled in tears...
hyestar7 1 year ago
beautiful beautiful beautiful!
justsomebodytolove5 1 year ago
what is the name of the song in the scene when sohrab is dancing.... and its not duhktar darya
onetwo1239 1 year ago
So beautiful how the essence of this beautiful story can be told in a breathtaking 1 minute 34 seconds long song......every time I listen to it I am spellbound!
I turn to you...my heart full of shame.....my eyes full of tears......
BEAUTIFUL!!!
helgabirna 1 year ago
best film
kanakafg 1 year ago
just the awesome especially the lyrics................
uddinfawad 1 year ago
brilliant - thanks for posting - reminds me when i worked in middle east and the warmth and 'open door' policy
maxheadroon 1 year ago
love this this si my fav. part of the song!
lovedoveabove13 1 year ago
guyz don't rap other guyz in afghanistan. i hate that part
tamimz99 1 year ago
@tamimz99 Naive dork of the week award goes to you
Essefen 1 year ago
@tamimz99
You are wrong. Research the practice in that country of bacha bazi - Boy Play, its part of the culture.
Drewfsm 1 year ago
I am a Christian but this movie i really liked it an this is one of my favorite songs
holbertbelton 1 year ago
beautiful movie, i think it should get an oscar!!!
Evy1318 1 year ago
Bara tu Azaar Dafa!!
temourt 1 year ago
how did he hassan get raped
KillaUsman786 1 year ago
@KillaUsman786 when he tried to catch the kite after they won the competition. Aseff raped him, and was the crime was witness by amir himself.
ericd001 1 year ago
BEAUTIFUL SONG !!!
giulio7003 1 year ago
Hello everyone, I just want to say that this is a great movie so I give 5*****. I love and respect foreing cultures because each has nice things to learn.
Hermanos latinoamericanos les recomiendo ver esta película.
Saludos
vivalalectura 1 year ago
He is the best, may Allah bless him with all MUSLIMS of the world.
yellem123 1 year ago
Allahumma salli 'ala,
Sayyidina,
Muhammadin an-Nabiyyi al-ummiyyi,
Wa 'ala alihi wa sahbihi wa sallim.
Please , someone tell me what language is this above! I just copied from the song lyrics.
edup12 1 year ago
@edup12 arabic
purometalyrap 1 year ago
Amazing track - what a voice!!! - Total Genius
handbag2023 1 year ago
Hi from Belarus!
This is my favorite song from it started my love story ... but the singer was unknown to me. Now I know, yes, Sami Yusuf is a great singer!
Love, peace and blessings to everyone))
60606061 1 year ago
Beautiful song and a great movie.
darthgrahf 1 year ago
Ya Allah, send ur peace and blessings on the final Prophet, :) <3
jozita 1 year ago
omygosh best movie EVER !
love the song !!
whats the name??
NMdiarra 1 year ago
@NMdiarra Read the description.. "Sami Yusuf - Supplication"
vethop 1 year ago
I agree, the movie was excellent.
Snazz15 1 year ago
BEST song off the soundtrack by far...very beautiful
nofate2029 1 year ago 39
Rameez9447680576 The best movie on the planet!
The song shows that Islam teaches to love, rather than to hate.
In my part of the world, Malabar, South India, people still don't understands this!
Rameez9447680576 11 months ago
you know what the problem is with all these people who disaprove my comments? You are all afraid to be called racists or 'closed-minded'!
The fact is that you all know why the middle-east is fucked up and I'm not saying the west played a big part in it but Islam plays an even bigger part!
Religion in general is nothing but bullshit to control the minds of people who can't think for themselves!
Go ahead, give me a 'thumbs down', keep denying.
Don't think that makes you a pacifist lol
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 Just because someone disagrees with your conception of things it does not mean they are afraid of being called racist or closed-minded. Get over yourself the world isn't black and white there are billions of people out their all of whom have their own take on things. They may not be the same as yours but that doesn't make them any less valid.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
you're right, not all of you are afraid to be called racist, some of you actually believe that every human being on this planet has good in it and deserves to live. Honorable though stupid thought. Some people don't deserve to live, no matter how much good they have inside them, it will never outrun all the evil things they have done in this world! Look at the taliban! You think this is normal??
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 Europe is bigger than the small world you seem to live in I also live in Europe - the people I've met know there are shades of grey in every walk of life. A community, culture, country, is not defined by a mere handful of its occupants but by its universal values and beliefs. As for some people not deserving to live, what gives you the right to decide this? A statement such as that makes you just as bad as the terrorists you so passionatley speak against.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
i never decided anything, it's just my humble opinion. I don't care whether you think like this or not, the day your family members get raped and murdered by savage fucking arabs who did it in the name of Allah, you'll get my point.
But you just go being your pacifist self. The world will certainly get in better shape if you promote Allah just a little more!!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
Well thats a sick thought but if heaven forbid anything like that were to happen to a family member of mine, I would be out for the person who did its blood however I would not begin to hate an entire race for it or wish death upon a race, why harm other innocent people. Like I said before it just makes you as bad as them. I'm not a pacifist, I'm a realist. I understand there are good/bad people in the world but this doesn't make all of mankind evil. The same applies to religon and countries.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
it's not a thought.
no it doesn't make all religious people bad, but as I said to tigergirl when 9 out of 10 arabs I meet are all like savage animals - vandalising, stealing, harrassing, cursing, leeching, etc...- I don't bother making an exception for the 10% who are more or less human.
Maybe, as you are a realist, you should go to muslim countries and witness the Sharia law, or why not going to countries with islamic regimes, that ought to open your eyes!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 It is a thought, to write something down, you must first cultivate the thought/idea.
You couldn't have met many arabs, if your perception is 99% of them are bad - thats an absurd figure. Many countries have corrupt govts and legal systems, even (shock horror) some European ones. Sharia law as practised in some Muslim countries is not true to the law set out in Islam, its merely a case of govts changing everything around to suit their own needs i.e. This happens everywhere.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
really is it? Go cultivate the idea with my family who suffered under the sharia law. Then come back to me to tell me about my perception of islam and arabs.
I've seen many arab countries, all of them the same! Sharia may not be a legalized law system in some arab countries but that doesn't mean it's not used!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 You said 'the day your family...' this I was referring to as a thought. At no point did you insinuate something like this happenned to your family. I'm sorry it did and I can understand why your so bitter now. However I still maintain a whole race shouldn't be judged by a few people. Members of my family have been racially abused by white people does this mean I should loathe all white people?
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
No, not if it only happened once.
But when it happens several times and year after year you hear what has happened to people you love, you start to hate them. I hope it never happens to you but i do hope you could just feel the pain it brings along.
No not everyone is bad. But I'm willing to hate people who have done me no harm rather than loving people who have caused us so much pain.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
It hasn't happenned just once. Infact just a few months ago two kids were stabbed in a racial mob by white people. Hoping people can experience pain is nasty and trust me I have experienced pain of simillar magnitude and I would never wish it on other people! You go on hating innocent people, see if it brings you happiness, because as far as I can see living your life with hate can only bring more bitterness and depression. I don't love strangers and I don't hate them because I don't know them.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
your example doesn't involve you, so of course it wouldn't have the same effect!
And no it doesn't make me any less of a happy person by hating the people who are responsible for millions of lives. I know I'm a good person for loving each and every being that is pure by heart and can think logically! Letting your child die because it is 'God's will' while she could have been saved with proper medication is what I call insanity! I have every right to hate people who think that simple and dumb!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
'You love each and every being that is pure by heart and can think logically' we'll aren't you just full of contradictions. First of all if you hate all those who can't think logically you'r earlier statement of not having anything against faith is false. Secondly If you love evey being thats pure at heart your statement of 'willing to hate people who do me no harm' i.e. people you don't know anything about (purity of heart included) is also false. As for the whole letting your child die bit I
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with pure faith. Faith in something higher, apart from fucking doctrines and religous laws!
willing to hate people who do me no harm is something personnal. Hating people who think illogical and get obsessed by what other people tell them to do, that was my point.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
if you don't like the word hating just say so and i'll replace it by 'being against'.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 I have nothing against you using the word 'hate' what does irk me however is your contradictory posts. Faith isn't independent of religion, religion is embodied in faith so....
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
faith is independent of religion. I'm living proof lol. I do believe in a higher power, but in my eyes that power can be anything. But you don't see me building shrines, setting up doctrines, brainwashing people or converting them to my 'religion'.
Faith is purely the belief in a higher being, whatever that may be. Religion is the exploitation of faith through mass indoctrination and brainwashing.
Shahin2102 1 year ago 2
@Shahin2102 faith is not the belief in a higher being it is merely the belief in ANYTHING for which there is no hard evidence to support Therefore faith is connected to religion and to say it's not is incredibly false.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
Higher being, or anything else, whatever, the point is that religion is only connected to belief because it exploits belief. I didn't say religion is independent of faith.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
have no idea what your on about - possibly Jehovah's witnesses but not entirely sure.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 I wasnt talking about sharia not being legalized, I was talking about it being legalized by corrupt govts who change the sharia law as depicted in the quran to suit their own needs. I know its used I also know its misused.
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
then you should also know that it's bullshit in the first place, whether it's properly used or not.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
I've read them I know exactly what they're about and no I don't think they're bullshit. If used properly with the clarification of the Hadith at its side, they would actually form a pretty fair legal system
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
if if if, but it's not. Once again: oppression through religion. What I've been saying for an hour now.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
If the religous law is fair but is used falsely by a govt then its not opression through religion but govt
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
uhuh? so normal civilians who accept Sharia, they do it because their government says so? not because Islam says so? give me a break...
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 Their interpretation is screwed up. They see what they want to see not whats actually there
LoonyInSpace 1 year ago
I live in Europe and almost every european I know is sick of vandalising, lazy, opportunistic, hateful arabs/muslims who insult the west like there's no tomorrow though they leech like sponges of western social cares and wellfare!
Everyone I know, knows this, though society has made it so hard for people to express their true thoughts because as soon as the word 'muslim' or 'arab' comes out of their mouths everyone points at them and calls 'em 'racists'.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
This song is originally long, i cut it short to only this part!
AmyThePImP 1 year ago
this one really touched me in the great movie. i do not care if the lyrics are not totally wise in my ears or about religion or whatever, right now. the human, soul aspect sings higher, and i am thankful for it.
coldfreshair 1 year ago
its not fair!!!!!!!! the supplication its not this music.... i downloaded it and its not this!!!!
can someone help?
onetwo1239 1 year ago
which song are you looking for??
anglean25 1 year ago
can some one tell me what is the name of the music that played in the scene when sohrab is dancing?
onetwo1239 1 year ago
@onetwo1239 listen download youtube to mp3 converter something along them lines and all you need to do with that is paste whatever "url's" from anywhere and press download x
weepunklilly 1 year ago
I think its : Dukhtare Darya by Ehsan Aman
ofirahamim 1 year ago
Dudes seriously, get a life. Find something better to do than come on youtube and argue with randomers. You wanna argue go find a forum that cares about any intolerant opinions and talk all you want.
On another note, how good is this movie?
EdinDedovic 1 year ago
@EdinDedovic It's really good. Really. You have to watch it to get it.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
How can you even bring yourself to post such a hateful comment...?
nellzz07 1 year ago
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Lol your violent and uneducated comment just proves how idiotic followers of islam really are. Thank you for this piece of evidence.
Rot in hell muslim, you'll get 72 dildo's up your ass instead of virgins in heaven LOL!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 That's not prejudice or completely unnecessary or anything. Nope. Um, to ask it politely, what the fuck is wrong with you and is there a surgery to fix it? I'll pay if you don't have the money for a soul. Seriously.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
besides give me 1 good reason why my comments are 'misinformed'? I've lived in the East, I've lived in the West. Same shit everywhere: RELIGION
Karl Marx: religion is like opium for the mob
Shahin2102 1 year ago
That's absolutely charming; you're quoting the person who wrote the Communist Manifesto. That gains you -so- many brownie points. Really.
Even if a person travels the world with a mirror in front of their face, he will only ever experience himself. For all I care, you could have been to every oriface of the Earth. But without considering what is around you and taking your own beliefs into the perspective of reality, the experience gives you nothing.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
Saying that Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto proves your IQ. And believe me, I've seen the world and this is my conclusion. For the past 10 years I've done nothing but listening to other people's beliefs, and I must admit, religion gives culture a certain charm but I'm more than willing to give up that charm for world peace.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
Implying that he didn't proves yours? I'm just going to throw it out there and say that absense or presence of religion isn't the sole influence on world peace. A five year old would understand this. Also, Marx did. It's not even up for interpretation, he flat out wrote it. Pick up an encycopedia, a history textbook, any accurate piece of literature and it'll tell you the same thing. So, what the fuck?
tigergirl718 1 year ago
no it isn't the sole influence on world peace, BUT IT FUCKING HELPS!!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
And after you get rid of religion, what next? Then people will fight because of government. Get rid of it. Then maybe because they live on a certain continent. Merge them! Then because they're different races. So, which differences should we get rid of first? Because none of them seem doable, just as getting rid of religion is impossible.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
it is possible. Religion is fading in west european countries, and guess who makes the most reasonable decisions? Europe!
Only 2 or 3 years ago Bush invaded Iraq with a smile on his face and 'god bless America'. Who do you think most volunteers in the US army are? Either extreme nationalists or extremely religious people who believe they're fighting in god's name!
Western European countries are losing their religion in such a way that churches have become touristical attractions!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
Hang on. Let's make a list of who Shahin thinks should be gotten rid of! (This may take a while) To allow for reasonable results, let's say that in order to eradicate the earth of what he doesn't like, the people who embody it must die (Because they won't convert.)
Nationalists
1 Billion Muslims
2 Billion Christians
900 Million Hindus
Approximately 1 Billion followers of other faiths
The US Army
After that, we still have people who will fight, by the way.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
lol omg, and i thought you were a reasonable person...
putting words in my mouth like that? You're an embarassement to atheists...
I only said I'm against religion, i didn't fucking say we have to 'get rid of them'.
Now that you've shown me what kind of person you are I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you. Don't you have some super sweet 16 to organize?
Have a good life, although i hope you'll experience true religion one day; the one that will make you think like I do.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
If you want world peace and you want to achieve this by getting rid of religion, and the majority of people who follow a faith WILL NOT CONVERT because you said so, the only thing left to do is get rid of them. It's called process of elimination. Learn it.
Don't you, like, have some -super- sweet 16 to organize? Actually, I'm not having one, thanks. I'm going to Japan for a week with my mother.
Oh true religion, really really mister? One day I'll be just as smart as -you-? That's swell.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
Don't bring my fucking age into this. It's a bullshit tactic used by people who have nothing left to say. Thanks. You, too, have proven yourself simply not worth bothering with. This'll be great discussion for my AP World class though. Maybe I'll write a paper. "Exploring The Mind of a Fanatic."
Thanks ever so much for your time.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
lol tingled a weak spot? A bullshit tactic? you think you know more of religious fanatism while never been to a fanatic muslim country? tell me, ever experienced extreme violence? ever feared for your life? ever lost someone close to you because of some asshole's twisted ideology of God and the world??
Shahin2102 1 year ago
You tell me what to think of a 16 year old american who has never seen true islam in its land of origin and never experienced the violence that goes along with it!
You tell me why as an atheist who supposedly doesn't believe in God, accepts religion?? Taking away religion ,you say, is taking away freedom. Is it ?? Does religion really give you the freedom of expressing and developping your own thoughts or does it brainwash you and forces you to believe what billions of others believe??
Shahin2102 1 year ago
doesn't every human being think in its own unique way?? if you' agree with catholicism for 99.999% doesn't this mean that if you would still follow catholicism you'd betray your own unique way of thinking? becoming a cow in a herd of 1 billion other cows??
Shahin2102 1 year ago
So let's add! If you kill people for peace, because they fight about race, who will you let live? Tell me, I need to keep a stat count. You've already gotten rid of my family, and at least 90 percent of my friends, by the way.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
just answer 1 question: Ever been outside the states? Ever been to islamic countries? ever witnessed sharia? do you even know what sharia is? Ever read the quran? ever talked to a truly devoted muslim? if one of your answers is no, then i got nothing more to say to you than, go get some more information before you discuss such things. You have no idea how the world looks like.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
First of all, yes. Second, YES. Third, I've read, I've watched videos, I've been there without being there. As in the Sharia Laws, yes. As a matter of fact, I fucking have, the same way I've read the Bible, and I've talked to devoted muslims who were reasonable, kind people! Have you?
Don't automatically say I don't know what the world looks like.
tigergirl718 1 year ago
I have lived among them, I have read their books, I have visited several muslim countries and I have seen it all.
just get out of your comfortable chair and try to live in a place where the name of your god determines whether you live or die.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
Are you saying shariah is wrong? If you studied sharia properly, you'll come to notice that sharia law in some muslims aren't even close to the real thing.
SipahiWarrior 1 year ago
@SipahiWarrior I don't really care what the real thing is. Most arab countries have a sharia law that is violent, brutal and utterly barbaric. If the original sharia law isn't like this, then I will gladly say that the ORIGINAL sharia isn't so bad. FACT still remains that almost every PRESENT DAY sharia law is barbaric.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
How can you judge original sharia to note? It hasn't even been properly implemented since the fall of the Ottoman empire (1923). Sharia law these days isn't sharia law, it has man made rules and regulations mixed up together, hence, making it a new law.
SipahiWarrior 1 year ago
@SipahiWarrior I told you, present day sharia isn't what it used to be (as you said btw). Therefor PRESENT DAY sharia is bullshit and mere barbarism.
If Islam used to be much more tolerant and reasonable 1000 years ago then I may not have had anything against it. But NOW, at THIS TIME, Islam and Sharia are shit. You said it yourself, Sharia today isn't sharia as it originally used to be.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 You shouldn't blame a faith because of what a group of people do. That's not needed especially you insulting my faith, that's not needed. I was expecting something positive out of this, I guess I was wrong.
SipahiWarrior 1 year ago
@SipahiWarrior Sorry if I have offended you.
You say i shouldn't blame faith for what a group of people do, but how can I? How many millions of innocents haven't been killed in the name of religion? Even if I were to blame only 'the people who abuse religion' then still i would disagree on the concept of religion itself.
Why can't you think for yourself? why do you have to think the same as millions of others think? Doesn't every man have his own unique way of thinking?
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 You're embarrassing your fellow atheists by doing exactly what we complain about: stereotyping. Please quit while you're ahead. You're only making us look like assholes.
CashISloverly316 1 year ago
@CashISloverly316 Actually you have two kinds of atheists; the first one just doesn't believe in God, but accepts other people's beliefs right or wrong. respectable enough.
The second kind doesn't believe in God, but only accepts those beliefs that do not harm others. I'm one of the latter.
I show respect for other religions, but I'm not afraid to express my opinion about things that seem completely wrong to me. You may find it acceptable that women are treated as shit, but I don't.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
Yes, people can think, Islam does not forbid that, if that was the case, those Muslims back in the day, wouldn't have introduced our modern numeric system, soap, and innovate and invent in many fields of science and technology. Respect must be shown, that's the drawline between progression and ignorance.
SipahiWarrior 1 year ago
what ancient muslims did (and most of them were actually persian, but anyways) has nothing to do with Islam. If I am a christian and invent something, does that make it a 'christian invention'??
How can people think when following religion?? Religious people only do what some book or some guy or some institution tells them to do! how can you call that thinking? They just blindly follow whatever they are told without even using their brains!
Shahin2102 1 year ago
I find it very pathetic when people claim that they can only show respect for others because religion tells them to do so.
So if there is no God (I know, this isn't religion but faith i'm talking about), would this mean that you shouldn't try to be a good person anymore? Do you think that someone who prays 50 times a day has more chance to 'go to heaven' than someone who lives an equally good life but doesn't believe in God?
Shahin2102 1 year ago 21
@Shahin2102 oh my god !!! cant you shut up??? you speak so much rubbish and no one even cares !!! dont you get the msg ?? no one cares who you r, what you think what you faith is or what you believe in!!! total idiot making a fool of your self!! look at all these comments! couldnt even be bothered reading one !! all just show one thing, and that is what an idiot you are!!
MyMeme3 1 year ago
@MyMeme3 nicely spoken words from a fanatic believer. You try to have a discussion and this is what you get.
Sure, I'm the idiot for not believing in fairytales told by some guy 1500/2000 years ago...
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 beautiful words i dont care what you call him or how many you have as long as we all have faith and look towards the same direction
antfernandez824 1 year ago
@antfernandez824 Neither do I care who someone believes in, I just find the concept of 'religion' quite idiotic because you are just joining a group of people who all think in the same way, do the same things and believe in the same thing. To me, that's (voluntary) brainwashing, not 'having faith'.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102
My friend, people should be respectful whatever their belief was. If people who do not believe in God thought of the other people who believe in God, then many things would be better. I really hope you the best.
YusufAlIbrahim 1 year ago
@YusufAlIbrahim I am respectful towards other religions that leave people alone. I may be against it but I keep my mouth shut when I visit buddhist temples, zoroastrian shrines and hinu sanctuaries.
And trust me, many things would be better if people who believe in God would leave other people who believe in the same god alone. You point me out one atheist that is causing trouble these days. On the other hand you see christians burning qurans and muslims blowing up christians.
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 The problem my friend is from people. Sometimes people understand their religion the wrong way and they present it to others in a negative way. If someone studies religions, then he will eventually find the correct one.
YusufAlIbrahim 1 year ago
@YusufAlIbrahim and why is it so important to uberhaupt have a religion? why isn't believing in A god enough? why does it have to be a doctrine that tells you how to pray, what to eat and not to eat, who to love, who to hate, etc?
What makes you think there IS a correct religion? What makes your religion better than that of anyone else? Why would God speak to so many people and make them fight each other for their differences? Why is a religious person better than a good atheist?
Shahin2102 1 year ago
@Shahin2102
God created us and he will not benefit anything from us. It is us who benefit when we follow his orders. Believing in God isn't enough because we weren't created to have fun and play all the time, but to work and be treated. God sent his messengers one after the other and people follow them then people mislead the truth and that's why other messengers are sent. Until the last messenger was sent which we believe it was Muhammad (PBUH).
YusufAlIbrahim 1 year ago
@Shahin2102 I do, how could that person enter heaven while he never believed there is one, when he denied the One God(Allah) and his messenger(Mohamed)? Off course there are many people who aren't religious and respectfull towards others but the thing is we can't define the true meaning of "good"! For example, a person can think he's a good person but maybe he only helps others because most of the times he knows he can benefit from it! Only god can seperate truly good people from the fake ones.
ChicaAvecClasse 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClasse I'm glad you gave that example. Well, isn't every good deed a selfish deed? Every good thing we do gives us a feeling of satisfaction and joy, so in a way you could say that everyone who does something good is selfish because he does that just to feel good himself.
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@Shahin2102 Well I wouldn't say selfish because at the end there's also another person who benefits from your kidness. But I do doubt altruism because people can keep denying but everytime(!) you do something for another person you get someting back. Is it a thank you or maybe a good about yourself? Or in our religion (islam) we know that for every good deed we get "good points" (hassanats) which leads us a step closer to heaven.
ChicaAvecClasse 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClasse which brings me back to my very first comment: Why is it that "points" need to be earned? Can't people be good to each other without the belief that they will be rewarded for it in (a) heaven?
As I said, I find this notion of "let's be good so we'll be rewarded by god" very pathetic and narrow minded. It's like making a dog do some tricks and give him a bone to reward it.
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@Shahin2102 Now you're mocking with the islam. I wonder if you know what islam truly contains?
You forget something very important God does not need anything from us, he doesn't benefit of non of the good deeds. He only gives us changes and guidance! Tell me please, what is this world we're living in? What does it give us? Nothing but innocent people getting killed, people who disrespect the believers... The real world is in the hereafter.
ChicaAvecClasse 11 months ago
@ChicaNothing but innocent people getting killed and people who disrespect the believers?
Call me a racist or whatever, but when I see innocent people killed in the news, it very often happens to be by the hands of 'believers'. And you may think of me that i disrespect believers, but do not forget that it is the believers who claim that all who do not think like them will go to hell. it is the believers who think they are better than unbelievers, it is the believers who claim to know God.
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClasse Personally I don't believe in good or bad. I think it's just a human invention. Just look at the laws of nature: no good or bad, just the course of events and survival. Morality is something that humans made in order to progress in life, in order to be able to make societies. If mankind wasn't social being, morality wouldn't matter. But since mankind needs to live in groups (family, society, etc), morality is needed so that all can have equal chances of survival.
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@Shahin2102 Well... It's very interesting how you see it but (there's always a but:-))... I don't really agree because if the "real life" (events and survival) was indeed the real thing than what's the purpose of life? You wouldn't understand why we're in this world. And I just can't imaging life without religion, I know now what my goal is... And i'm not talking about a goal in this life but in the hereafter because that's what life's all about. You can't truly believe life ends after dead?
ChicaAvecClasse 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClass well ironicall you say that the purpose of life is in the afterlife. A bit strange don't you think? I have nothing against people trying to find the meaning and purpose of life, but that doesn't mean that I believe that mankind will ever find out. What life is, is something we can and will never know because it goed beyond our understanding, both spiritually and scientifically. When I try to think about what lies beyond the borders of the universe, I just bump into a white screen
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClasse I think that is exactly the problem with religion: the fact that people care more about the afterlife, something no one has ever seen to give us any image of it, than life itself. Instead of constantly trying to get to heaven, why don't we start making this place, which is real, which is, for now, the only place we have, into a heaven?
We keep dreaming of a perfect world in the afterlife, but we fail make one in the real life.
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@ChicaAvecClasse and when I said "go to heaven" I meant every person's illusion of heaven.A christian's heaven probably looks a lot different than yours, but both of you believe that being good opens your path to heaven (whatever it might be).
Shahin2102 11 months ago
@Shahin2102 Yes we do, Heaven is the place were people go to if they've lead their lives as servants of Allah. We submit ourselves to Him and if we do it proper without any mockery etc we go to heaven (a place that makes this world look like a grain of sand in the dessert). If not, if you choose to live as an unbeliever, you go to hell. It's actually very simple but people make it look difficult. But unfortunatelly life is what it is and exactly that makes believing a challenge!
ChicaAvecClasse 11 months ago
Well then call me an unbeliever and send me to hell. But I refuse to accept the words of men (prophets, priests, etc.) as the words of God. If there is a God, I'm quite sure he will forgive me for not believing in him when all his supposed followers are at war.
If God punished those who do not believe in him, then what a vengeful and uncertain creature must he be? and if he is uncertain, then he is only a reflection of mankind. Which can only mean that god is an invention of mankind.
Shahin2102 11 months ago