this from a Pol Pot like Communist who supports mass murder of people with property (that would be 99% of the world) and who calls for violence against them.
Sunsara Taylor is clear and coherent in the face of a TV interviewer who is not. He asked her if she intends to withdraw her support for President Obama just seconds after she explained that she is part of a coalition that regards the war as criminal, having bombed and displaced millions of civilians.
@girlcalledaish Like a typical liberal she passes off inaccurate information as fact, She makes shit up on the spot during interviews and then when asked to back it up by providing the source of the info she never can.
what she said about the president of afghanistan is a little wrong.....the president passed a law saying a husband can deny his wife food if she denies him sex....but the rape part could also be true
but which part was false.....im not sure of the rest of what she said
Sunsara was constantly interrupted by the Fox guy as well as the Democrat. I am quite appalled by that. She should have been allowed to talk unimpeded. I don't necessarily agree with everything she said, but she should have been heard clearly.
You just know this Sunsetsara's cunt is going to smell like Hippie oil and Latte's.
Filthy stinky cunt.
Typical liberal though: Blame America, America is evil, etc. I pray for the day we can have a civil war to kill these pussies. Liberals will do more to destroy America than any filthy savage in a dirty bedsheet.
The one thing that has been missing from the discussions is that Obama campaigned to talk with America's enemies ,as in you can't have peace unless your willing to talk peace with those whom peace is needed ,and instead we have ended up with the Bush doctrine of perpetual war ,whats next North Korea ,Iran ? America is going nowhere fast.
USA has waged illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, solely for their own imperial needs, and these two a-holes snicker when somebody actually says that out loud?! World isn't any safer, the iraqi and afghani women aren't any safer and the terror continues. What was the point, if not to control the area?
And now they are bombing Pakistan? What next? Yemen? Iran? Venezuela? Cuba? All of the above? This just never ends until more people realizes what is tuly going on...
She never states what is wrong with Imperialism. Imperialism is good as it opens more markets and provides outlets for our goods. An individual can make a fortune through Imperialism and in most cases, the host country benefits from the constructive management provided. The problems in sub-sahara Africa can be directly traced to the fact that they needed to be colonies for 3 or 4 more generations. They needed that maturation process.
@442Ragtop God, you're a fucking scum-fucking scumfuck. I'd bash your head in without a thought. Fucking scum. No other words fit you better. Fucking scum.
@bapyou is afraid of ideas that contradict his dogma. He’ll attacks then block you from responding. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftists’ beliefs represents Sin. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold.
So, when Bush was pursuing the same actions in Iraq and being "privy" to certain info, he was a war monger, and Obama isn't? Like Sunsara, I see no difference in this war strategy between the last 2 presidents.
Sunsara doesn't realize that shes being protected by the people she's calling rapist, murders, war criminals, etc. I'd like to see her defend herself when the enemy invades and knocks down her door and rapes her, and kills her, sometime in the future; when the enemy (not saying it's terrorist, I'm just using a situation) when the enemy knocks down on Sunsara's door, while she's getting raped and butchered, no soldier is gonna save her.
@BOLSHEVIXTREME Thats The Teabag company that runs USA ;) they gotta run propaganda , Sunsara is a true Anti-teabagger and a true patriot of USA while the rest are wannabees state-puppets...
@Wyldstylist America doesn't deserve the titile 'land of the free' it has violated so many rights from people and struggled very hard to give women and minorities simple basic human rights in case some retarded right wing revisionist stood up and claimed t was communism
a lot of people in america labelled susan b anthony and martin luther king jr as communists simply for fighting for civil rights
and quite a few times, king even spoke out against communism
@BOLSHEVIXTREME Your totally right man , they built that nation over Native-American land and with their slavetrade companies that still are the owners of USA thats why world gets enslaved now...
@Wyldstylist Bullshit! Communism doesn't work and never will. This is the real world. Communism may look good on paper but it just doesn't work on planet earth.
@bdj010 You really know nothing do you? look at all scandinavian countries that copied huge amounts of socialism in their systems cause their countries were falling apart cuz of capitalism!!
@Wyldstylist I have lived in America all my life and I know that freedom is better. The Czech Republican and many others got a lot better after they privatised their business and industry and went to a capitalist form of government. Now they have one of the top economies in Europe.
@Wyldstylist Well you do know that is not what Sunsara Taylor is about, right? Read up on her and the Revolutionary Communist Party, and especially Bob Avakian.
BTW, I live in America, you don't. I think I know more about what I am talking about here than you do. My day-to-day life is full of freedom.
@bdj010 Your seriously mean that the idea of stopping all wars, start better welfare programs , stop the monopoly of the US 2party system of so called rival parties that do the same darn thing the rockefellers and oilmafiosos in the DC ministate tells em to do is a bad thing? come on Sweden got turned from a third world country to a prosperous country , and my freedom is not gone .. Unless u sit there with billions of us dollars and guard em like a watchdog by some american delusion...
@Wyldstylist What Taylor wants is not like any of that. Read up on the Revolutionary Communist Party. Also, this is not Sweden. You may think you are free but you are really not.
@bdj010 Oh sorry man , i thought they were communist , their page states that they are stuck into the Maoist dogmatist ideas , thats bad cuz society cant go back in time =)
WHy does she rock?? FOr not listening to arguments being presented or distortioning facts (as most of these left nutjobs do). (I am not American) but the people in Afghanistan are better off with military in the country protecting them. I also would argue for withdrawing military from there because why should we risk our lifes and waste our money on people (Afghans) who obviously cannot live without smashing each other s head (or oppressing women s rights, for this matter).
She rocks because she counter pro-imperialist dribble like yours, putting forward the FACTS while being rudely interrupted, and saying the things that people should really hear, all while being SLANDERED as a "nutjob" by these very assholes that lie and help fuck over the world. I don't give fuck what you think Afghans are better with, that should not be anyone's call other than Afghans, that's the point. Your lives are not worth more than any other. GTFO out of Afghanistan, end of story!
She (Sunsara) is pityful like a little child. She interrupts, gestures hysterically and does not listen to facts or answers to arguments and questions Laura asks. Laura effectively makes her look a clown.
Apart from that, I also agree that military should get out of Afghanistan, that no money or foreign lives should be wasted on stupid freedom-hating, ignorant talibans who rape and kill women and people who do not fit in their rotten system of thinking that is hidden behind the Islam.
"pro-imperialist"??? Because there are people who want to free and feed oppressed people in Afghanistan???
And what about you, are you Maoist?? So you support a killer of tens of millions of CHinese. You support freedom oppressing communist dictatorship, corruption, mis-management Communism is the cancer in the world. Every communist country that existed ended up as rotten shitholes.
Yes, I really believe that these assholes led an invasion of Afghanistan to "free and feed people", that is after raising the same oppressors to power and losing control of them, like Iraq and all the other places they gave power to tyrants, right?
I don't support any "killer of tens of millions" that's just a superficial lie and Mao is dead. There is no such thing as a "communist country".
Sunsara debates better than you, obviously, Laura is an ignorant loudmouth that spouts lies
There she defends Mao s rotten communism that led to tens of millions dead. It is not a superficial lie that Mao and his stupid commies were responsible for tens of millions dead Chinese (due to famines and due to terror).
"There is no such thing as a "communist country"." Well, China still is ... but a proof again that communism is the root of destruction: before 1980 during communism, China was in misery, poverty, opppressed human rights, the country was a rotten shithole. Now, with the door open to free market, CHina s economy has been growing dynamicall for 3 decades, wealth is at reach fro many (not for all though). In sum, the living conditions for most of the CHinese improved by millions of miles!
"that is after raising the same oppressors to power and losing control of them, like Iraq and all the other places they gave power to tyrants, right?" Yes, probably true. This is the fact with these rotten countries. You can t help them. Whatever you do to help them, they end up turning their countries in rotten shitholes.
What was she great at?? For distortioning facts, ignoring and not listening to arguments others present to hear? With stupid people like Suns nobody would do anything. Problems would not be solved at all. Women would continue to be raped and oppressed in Afghanistan.
@joaquinveyron 30 Years ago women were Politicians in Afghanistan
I think I remember an Afghanistan talking about how they use to have Disco's
And dont give me the bullshit that we were trying to attack The soviet Union through them... they asked for out help anyone's help but we dint give it to them...
We aided Massoud's Northern Alliance, not the religious extremists. Pakistan's ISI backed the religious extremists, most notably the Taliban - the US was compelled by an agreement with the Soviets to pull their support from Afghanistan, in exchange for a Soviet withdrawal from the country.
As for Afghanistan under the Soviet occupation, it was far from a "woman's paradise" - the Red Army killed 2-3% of the population during their stay, most of the dead being civilians.
and your point about the red army killing that many? maybe it was needed look who they were up against... and now USA is killing people hoping it will be as good in Afghanistan as it was in the 70's
And the Soviet "occupation" was not needed... they just wanted help from anyone not just Soviets
The Russian Marxists assassinated the Afghan leadership and imposed a Marxist dictatorship under Taraki. When the people overthrew him the Marxists put in new dictators, until finally becoming frustrated and invading, then ruling directly.
The Soviets poisoned village wells. They made a special kind of explosive mine in the shape of a small butterfly toy, with only enough explosives to blow off a hand or a foot, so that the children who picked them up or stepped on them would be mutilated.
The Russian Bolsheviks were fighting agains the Afghan people, just as the Russians had before the rise of the Marxist state in Russia. The difference in 1980 was that the Russian invaders at the time were Marxists, and therefore the leadership had no sense of conscience or shame.
There is no honorable excuse for the genocidal war that the Marxists waged in Afghanistan.
@DrCruel so giving money to the Mujahadeen(Taliban) in a war then no money to the country... Destroying the infrastructure then coming back years later to take control of the drug trade
The Communist government the best healthcare industry and infrastruture that Afganistan will ever have, and USA destroyed that because they were Communist not because they killed people because so many other countries did that
The indigenous people destroyed these so-called "benefactors", not the US. The Bolsheviks even attempted a genocide in teh country to pacify the people, but failed miserably.
When the Soviets brought in Hind helicopters and tanks to use against villagers, the US provided Stinger and TOW missiles to Massoud. So instead of a successful genocide, the Soviets had to accept defeat.
"Health care"? "Infrastructure"? What a load of crap. The Marxists tore the country up for eight years.
You like propaganda? and are kinda retarded because it is a known facted that the soviet occupation had the best healthcare and infrastructure and the Mujahadeen destroyed the country...
I rather like facts, actually. The one million casualty figure is not "propaganda", nor is the history of assassination, repression and mass murder that accompanied Taraki's murderous PDPA and the subsequent Soviet invasion and supression campaign in Afghanistan that followed, once Taraki was overthrown.
The Bolshevik record in Afghanistan is outrageously vile, and well documented as such. I can't believe a decent person would try to defend it.
im not debating that they killed millions but USA killed more with their tactics.
fund the Mujahadeen when the Soviets leave do NOTHING let them fight it out then after several millions die from that they come in and say "democracy" and US citizens are stupid and think they actually have one
America starved the People of Afghanistan and Iraq then they invade
Afghanistan had a functional government, until it was ousted by the pro-Soviet Daoud in 1973. He in turn was overthrown by the Marxist PDPA in 1978. Thereafter Taraki ruled as a despot, until his own people killed him, eventually prompting the Soviet Union to invade and rule directly. For eight years the Soviets slaughtered the Afghan people.
BUT the US is at fault. Because we half-heartedly tried to stop the Soviets from finishing the job.
No need to spread the "news" about communism. Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
No need to spread the "news" about communism. Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@joaquinveyron Women love rape and battery like wild dogs love the smell of rotten food and shit. It's the nature of hysterical women to be attracted to the criminal sociopath. The two simply goes together like jam on toast.
lmao, I thought Obama was running on the platform that he was anti-war and that he was going to do everything he could to pull out of the middle east, I didn't know that he just wanted to take control of our imperialist empire...lmao
Oh Sunsara, wake up honey, it is time to face the world darling. Life is real. Not some communist, marxist fairy tale you learned in liberal land. WE THE PEOPLE WILL prevail against your agenda of b.s.! Only Chairman Mao is proud of you. (Oh wait, Chairman Mao is dead) Sweetie, your are so delusional! I hear they have great institutions for the mentally insane. It will be okay. They will take good care of you and you can color pictures of your favorite communists! Won't that be special!!!
sunsara taylor is a fucking idiot , if we do nothing the terrorist will continue to kill people , now we may never be able to kill every terrorist but doing nothing does not slove the problems we face from terrorist and that what people like her just don't get, they think if we do nothing then the terrorist would leave us alone
cocobear- we do not know for certain what Sunsara's sexual activities are or are not. So it is not fair to say "fucking" and idiot when referring to her. Idiot will do just fine. I don't know is she's into the "fucking" part or not. A little TMI, for me. IDK.
No, she should not die! She should be forced to live in Communist China where she would not have the "freedom" to run off with diarrhea of the mouth. She'd be jailed within a year. Free speech is not a right in China! If she is so hell bent on Communism, she should join her comrades and suffer like they suffer. That would be worse than death. Then, Sunsara might be grateful that she had rights at one time. That will never happen. She is delusional and clueless!
No need to spread the "news" about communism. Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
i love Sunsara, she always has some radical statements to make. Also, it is incredibly hard on the web to find personal info of her, but right now i've noticed she has aged.
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Sunsara isint exactly an intelligent or intellectually gifted person at all. Shes a flipping communist. she has no credibility whatsoever. She writes for communist newspapers and is a member of the RCP. She supports an ideology that has killed over 100,000,000 people in the 20th century.
WOW !!! Sunsara can hold her own. Anyone with a legitimate argument has to talk over those idiot talking heads. She stays calm and gets many great points out. Way to go !!!
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Sunsara Taylor is a raving lunatic. She WAS ranting and raving. That's all she knows to do! Her cause is completely flawed. She just doesn't get it! She made the Democratic Strategist look like a far right conservative! She needs to get a life! We are at War. We were attacked on our soil! We took the war to their turf. Do you remember the attacks of 09-11-01? Do any of the images you saw on that day matter? Get real!
MHBrowning - You are the one who doesn't get it ! This country is so filled with fear ! When you live in fear and you respond in fear you hurt yourself and others. This country, my country, is hurting its self and millions of others. I remember the attacks on 911. I saw the planes hit the building. Do unto others as you WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
Believe me. I get it. This is REAL life, not some Communist fairy tale. When we were attacked, George W. Bush led this great nation with courage and determination. Sunsara Taylor and people like her stand for an agenda that would destroy our whole way of life. She and her cause weakens this nation. I do not live in fear. I live one day at a time, knowing that freedom isn't free. It comes with a price. I will pray that God opens your eyes to the truth.
When we were attached, George W Bush sat in a class room, like the good dummy he was, supposedly reading a book with young children. One plane hit and he sat. A second plane hit and he sat. They didn't rush him to a bunker. WHY? Chaney called for a stand down of the Air Force planes. WHY? The twin towers came down at the speed of gravity. HOW? You believe in Lies. WHY? I know the answer to all but the last. How to make you realize the media is full of lies. Maybe you know & r part of
Cheney could not give an order to stand down any military action. He was not the Commander and Chief. Only Bush could give that order. So far so left! No thanks on the offer to go "toe to toe" any day of the week. And about the whole lies thing, Wow, you must really love fiction. Oh and by the way, things do fall to the ground, it's called gravity. Very good! I learned about that in third grade. I am done with this whole subject. We shall see who prevails here, the truth or your lies!
"This is REAL life, not some Communist fairy tale. "
You do know though that politics is about shaping the understanding of reality, right? That's why you talk about "this great nation". Someone introduced this concept to you and your forefathers at some point and you've internalized it by now.
George Bush could have reacted in multiple other ways which could have just as well "kept your country safe" yet without killing hundreds of thousands "sand niggers". There isn't just one "right" way!
Chadderdon does sound like a voice of the Bush Regime, yes she does...and this is an important thing to note, because she is putting forward the Obama war doctrine. The only thing that has changed with this recent election is the face leading US empire.
How refreshing, and so sorely needed, to hear Sunsara Taylor speak the truth on Fox.News, of all places. Great job! We need more of this.
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The U.S. empire? What planet are you from? This is the United States of America! We were attacked and we fought back. There is no Imperialistic Agenda in defending our nation! That is what our government is supossed to do! Protect this nation. God Bless the U.S.A.
fuck the u.s. fuck your god. take your head out of your ass. the u.s. is a nightmare, it has been so since it was founded. i don't support the fucking cunts that attacked you, but you justify the destruction of a nation (that had nothing to do with it) because two towers were destroyed. course you fucking morons are taught to praise the actions of the u.s. in wwii because of an attack on a naval base. you people are perpetually fucked in the head. go suck a dick you stupid puppet
Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause. Victor Hugo
Open your eyes! Remove your head from the sand and see the truth! While you are at it, get a vocabulary instead of using so many expletives (you might want to look that word up in the dictionary). That's so unbecoming. I am not impressed. Do you eat out of that mouth?
yes i do, i also eat your wife's pussy out with it too.
i've opened my eyes a long time ago in a history class, nearly vomited from the disgust with the u.s. dumb shits like you can not get the order of cause and effect right, you think that these assholes attacked your country just up and out of nowhere. why don't you get a materialist grasping of history... still love this worthless country? wish you were on the plane or in the tower! you disgust me. one more for the road: FUCK AMERIKKKA!
"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" Victor Hugo
If you don't like it here, then perhaps you'd like to live in, oh let's say Somalia? Or Cuba, or even Mexico? Better yet, go to Iran. That way you can use all your anti-American sentiment towards the total destruction of civilization as we know it. You took one history class and you think you know it all? You must have a week mind and stomach!
I notice you comment on all of Sunsara's youtubes. And continue to comment. How much are you paid? Your refrain, love it or leave it. The cowards route. If you don't like it, change it for the better.
I don't have a week mind or stomach. Toe to toe any day of the week.
I am not paid anything. I am exercising my right to free speech. My comment about a weak mind and stomach was not directed at you. It was directed towards NICBLANK. You did read his statements or did you miss the whole (expletive deleted) remarks about America? I also suggested since he seems not to like America, that perhaps he should try living elsewhere. I actually agree with on one point. If you do not like something, fight to change it. I just cannot support the Communist Agenda.
@MaryAnnThomas Saw your post- the word is spelled weak in the context used here. I know that the English language can be difficult for some. If you use the Mozilla web browser, it spell checks for you as you go along. It may help you. TTFN! "God Bless America, land that I love!"
All you guys know is foul language. Like mhbrowning, I wonder if you are paid for all this vile language and blogging or do you do it just to jerk off. Because you are a jerk.
No one's justifying the "destruction" of any nation. We went into Iraq to remove a leader we had legitimate intelligence saying he posed a threat to us. That intelligence was wrong. We never said he had anything to do with 9/11. It's a broader war on terrorists. We didn't "destroy" them. We went in to remove him and then rebuild. Most of the "destruction" is what they did to each other. Shouldn't praise the actions in WWII, huh? Would you have preferred Hitler achieve world domination??
It's not just our government, buddy. The top intelligence agencies from several different nations saw the same intelligence and came to the same conclusions. We also have an independent media in this country (and one who, I might add, was not particularly fond of the last administration) who has access to the information from those other perfectly credible intelligence outfits. Anyone looking objectively at the facts will acknowledge this.
Ah, so predictable. There's been a major scandal in Great Britain, if you haven't heard, over the Bush administration's decision to "motivate" the intelligence services to furnish the kind of intelligence suitable to the White House's gang.
The foreign services (like Israel's, for one example) have their own motives for wanting to see the United States either mired in Iraq or stepping over Iraqi bodies.
With all those untold billions we have invested in the best security and intelligence services in the world, it's funny how systematic the "mistakes" of our administrations are.
Golly, Bush said he had irrefutable evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
He did produce it, it just turned out to be wrong. There can be intelligence failures with even the best of them. Considering the fact that Saddam convinced his own henchmen of his possession of those weapons, it's kind of understandable.
Take another glance at what I posted again: "Bush said he had irrefutable evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction."
He didn't produce any irrefutable evidence for out invasion; in fact, he didn't produce any evidence that went unscrutinized and undebunked in the prelude leading up to our present quagmire.
Whom did Saddam convince? His public statements were that Iraq had no weapons then. And the stuff he'd used on the Kurds (in '88) was Western, supplied by Ronnie Reagan.
He produced various intelligence reports that we had no reason to believe were not credible. The only one that was debunked before we went in was the uranium from Africa point, and you types like to claim that he built the case only on that. HE DIDN'T!!! There was also evidence about chem/bio weapons that. Yes, there was some intel saying he didn't have them, but Bush decided to manage against the worst case scenario. I'm sorry but I can't fault him for that.
Yes, his "public statements" were that he had gotten rid of all the weapons. (How is where they came from relevant? Reagan supported both sides of that war in the hopes that the U.S. would never have to get involved any further than that). The point is we knew he'd have no hesitation to use them on us if he still had them, and even people in his own government believed he had them. They've spoken to many of them since he was disposed.
Wasn't even just that, buster. China saw the same intel, Russia saw the same intel, even France saw the same intel. (They were just bribed by Saddam to never vote to authorize war in the security council. Those documents were found after Saddam was expelled.) Even Saddam's own henchmen thought he had the weapons. It was called managing against the worst case scenario.
Yes, they were just bribed by Saddam to never vote to authorize war in the Security Council.
Did we find any WMDs?
We're finished here. Believe what you want.
Evidently you're certain that the U.S. had no geopolitical interests in becoming involved in the region; we simply happen to be the world's first largest monger of humanitarian warfare.
Saddam's weapons would have been just such a large threat to America, evidently.
Yes, they were, and the documents proving that were discovered when we expelled Saddam. I didn't say we did find the WMD's, I said the intelligence was there to believe he did. I also said the intelligence turned out to be wrong. I never said it was "humanitarian warfare" I said our "geopolitical interests" were keeping our people from what we had every reason to believe was a credible threat.
The "documents" that were found alleging that major figures in the European capitals had been bribed by Saddam were dismissed as fakes set up by the George Bush-authorized puppet government of Iraq according to the British papers. Name just one court case that emerged from them.
You already have your head deep in the sand. Go on and prove it.
Court case that emerged from WHAT? You're going to have to prove that one to me, but whatever the case, even if it's true, it doesn't change the fact that those other countries saw the same intelligence we did and came to the same conclusions. They just chose not to act on it, for whatever reason they might have had.
Take a look. This isn't a Marxist newspaper. This is US conservative Cliff Kincaid, telling us about the forgery story in the Christian Science Monitor:
But to seriously believe that even if Saddam had some kind of weapons program, the threat from his regime would have been such that the United States was justified in initiating the mass slaughter known as the Iraq quagmire is simply laughable: who won't dismiss this outright?
The fact that you choose to hide behind refuted "documents" alleging bribery of anti-war people, already debunked in domestic and international press years ago, is pretty telling.
I didn't say we were an "angel of democracy"--Bush's relabeling the war as an effort to spread democracy once the intelligence turned out to be faulty was a HUGE mistake. It was about responding to perfectly legitimate intelligence indicating that Saddam posed a threat to us.
Bush's rehabilitating the war was a simple act of finding another slogan for the same policy of hegemonic dominance over the globe because he'd been promoting as taking care of weapons of mass destruction to begin with.
Funny how that doesn't contradict our very warm support for theocratic Saudi Arabia, Saddam during the '80s, Pinochet's coup against an elected Leftist, the CIA's overthrow of Mosaddegh, Iran's only democratically elected prime minister, and, and...
Has nothing to do with "hegemonic dominance over the globe"--only to do with responding to credible threats against the very existence of this nation. Yes, he panicked when the weapons weren't found so he gave a very dumb picture of trying to rehabilitate the war. Those we supported had not threatened us at the time. Saddam turned on us after we did not allow him to ride roughshod over Kuwait in 1990-91. None of those we supported at the time had ever threatened us.
"Has nothing to do with 'hegemonic dominance over the globe'--only to do with responding to credible threats against the very existence of this nation."
Of course. Because that America = good is just a truth so set in stone, that it cannot be questioned.
Because that's common knowledge to anyone who isn't a whackjob like you. Not because I say so, because that's been completely proven over and over. We sent numerous supplies to aid in there to ensure that innocents didn't die from our blockade and that only the government would be damaged. Apparently those aid supplies never got there--what explanation would you offer for that?
Doesn't do much good when you send a bunch of supplies while the electricity for Iraqi babies in incubators gets cut because of the blockade there, does it?
I've learned quite a few things, thank you very much. And one of the things I learn is that this country tries to protect the civilians who could be victimized by actions we must take to protect our own, but we can only be so successful. I don't care about one-liners, I care about the truth, and that's what this is.
We do what we can, which is more than can be said for most other armies in the world, who don't bother to make any distinction innocents and legitimate targets for attacks. There's only so much we can do, but we certainly do more than almost any other army. I know people in the army, buster, and I know the nearly impossible standards they are held to in this regard.
Not when we tried to PREVENT this from happening, but Saddam needed deaths to blame on us for his propaganda campaign and getting gulliable fools like you to buy into it. Get a fucking clue buddy
I didn't say America always equals good, but the fact is there WERE credible indications of threats, and if it were really about "hegemonic dominance over the globe" many features of this fight would be very different than they actually are. For example we might have actually taken Iraqi oil (we haven't). We might be planning a permanent presence there (we're not--we've been trying to find a responsible way to get out from the start). It's called logic, maybe you've heard of it
Our support for those theocratic (but never at the time having threatened us) regimes was a little concept known as "realpolitik"--maybe you've heard of it. It was in the context of the Cold War in that they could help us fight communist Russia if need be. In laymen's terms, it's called supporting a bad guy against a worse guy. You know, kinda like helping Stalin in order to take out Hitler. Sometimes those kinds of concessions are necessary, buddy, this is the real world we're living in.
Sacred Cold War bullshit. Because Guatemala's Arbenz and Iran's Mosaddegh were just such grave commie threats...
Maybe we're invading and installing our men all over the place - which country is it that has gone to war more often than any other in the 20th century? - because they are going to help us fight somebody else off, too.
"You know, kinda like helping Stalin in order to take out Hitler."
Actually the two biggest mistake wars of the 20th century--Korea and Vietnam--were fought for precisely that purpose--to strengthen anti-Communist regimes over pro ones if we needed them in a more major fight against Russia. When you have the whole world looking to you to protect them, then yes, you will tend to go to war more often than others. What does it matter that Hitler declared war on us? Precisely why we NEEDED Stalin to help us against him. Doesn't disprove anything you say.
It's not so much those regimes were the commie threats as the ones we could support against them would be much greater assets in such a fight. And no, the threat posed by a WMD-armed Saddam is not "right-wing masturbation"--it's again the simple ability to use logic and reason. I'll spell it out for you. Leader who has called for attacks against us + the weapons to carry out such attacks = THREAT TO THE U.S.!!! You only showed me that evidence about GALLOWAY was planted, not any of the others
what you're saying is just factually incorrect. saddam never posed a threat to the US. based on reports from the UN weapons inspectors, there was never any intelligence to conclude that Iraq had stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. the weapons of mass destruction Saddam did have during the Iran-Iraq War were sold to him by the US and others, and they were destroyed during and after the first Gulf War. And nuclear weapons that could hit the US? are you really dumb enough to believe that?
That's not what numerous other intelligence agencies were saying. There was conflicting evidence, and what Bush did was manage against the worst case scenario. The was FAR more evidence to the WMD's than just the uranium from Africa debaucle. No "lies" involved. Several nations' top intelligence agencies saw the intel and came to the same conclusion we did. We couldn't ignore that.
Oh do you mean the "evidence" that Saddam bought uranium from Africa? that document that was declared false by US ambassadors before the war? what about this hysteria spread by Bush and Co about a "smoking gun"? they were LYING. Saddam having connections to al-Qaeda? Saddam was al-qaeda's enemy. do some homework or shut the fuck up.
Sure Saddam may have been Al-Qaida's "enemy" but we were Stalin's enemy too, still worked with him to take out Hitler. Regional enemies are more than willing to work together against a mutual much larger enemy. NO QUESTION Saddam would have helped Al-Qaida take us out if he had still possessed the WMD's that many nations' intel indicated he did. By the way, you don't have a whole lot of credibility with that profile name. If you admire him, you're in no position to criticize ANYTHING Bush did
You still haven't proved anything to me about the refuting of those documents. And yes, if he had the weapons, that certainly would have necessitated action being taken, given that he most certainly had threatened us and called for attacks on the U.S. That plus the actual weapons to carry out such attacks equals a GRAVE threat. Any sane person wouldn't dismiss this outright. And by the way, most of the "mass slaughter" in Iraq has been Iraqis killing other Iraqis.
I've just shown you how the Iraqi puppet ministry disseminated forgeries after the "liberation" of Iraq by Bush-Cheney, Inc.
Try the Christian Science Monitor's revelation.
And yes, Saddam Hussein's shitty little dictatorship, where up to 500,000 children died during the U.S. blockade according to respectable estimates, was one heck of a fucking threat to the United States.
I just addressed that revelation. It only mentions Galloway--NOTHING about the French, the Russians, the Chinese, etc. And yes, intelligence indicated the presence of those weapons plus Saddam's threat equals CREDIBLE THREATS, BUDDY!!!! Those deaths were SADDAM'S RESPONSIBILITY!!!! We tried to get aid supplies--food, medicine, etc. but he made sure they never got to those who needed them so he could blame their deaths on us, and get gullible fools like you to fall for it.
The intelligence may not have been "irrefutable" but it was certainly credible. I'm well aware that there was intelligence on both sides, but all those nations believed the yes intelligence to be credible. That article refers only to supposed bribes to the British--I had never even heard such an allegation. I had heard about France, Russia, and China, and my sources were well after your refutation of only the british story. You've shown me no refutation of those bribes.
Are you this naive? Member of Parliament Galloway's name came from the same lists of names in the "recovered" Iraqi ministry documents that were dismissed as forgeries by the Christian Science Monitor here in the states, the conservative posterboy Cliff Kincaid, and the international press, such as the European papers.
This is your source for an alleged Iraqi conspiracy to "bribe off" people to oppose war based on faux U.S. "intelligence."
Prove that to me, buddy. I only saw Galloway's name mentioned in that article. I NEVER saw Chirac's name, Putin's name, the other Russian candidates' names, or the Chinese leaders' names. Show me an article that talks about the bribes to those others being a "forgery." Again, I read this LONG after the Galloway ones would have been shown false, so these are different documents altogether. Uhhh, it was Saddam himself doing the bribing, so I think we had bigger things to prosecute him for
Sunsara Taylor is amazing, and Iraq had nothing to do with 911 as that woman on the right said they did. "it caused 911" stupid bitch Liz!
bleachback929 6 hours ago
Every EMPIRE becomes TOTALLY EVIL and Self-Destructs itself either by MAKING so many 'Enemies' OR BANKRUPTING themselves.
kind1st 2 weeks ago
this from a Pol Pot like Communist who supports mass murder of people with property (that would be 99% of the world) and who calls for violence against them.
1czechit1 1 month ago
Oh, and btw, Liz Chadderdon is totally unable to find supportive reasoning for the President's actions.
bwprag123 2 months ago
Sunsara Taylor is clear and coherent in the face of a TV interviewer who is not. He asked her if she intends to withdraw her support for President Obama just seconds after she explained that she is part of a coalition that regards the war as criminal, having bombed and displaced millions of civilians.
bwprag123 2 months ago
I hope that dumb commie bitch steps out in front of my car someday.
edwardschlosser1 5 months ago
Sunsara Taylor is your typical, looney liberal cunt.
JBernard79 10 months ago
@JBernard79
how is she a looney?
girlcalledaish 10 months ago
@girlcalledaish Like a typical liberal she passes off inaccurate information as fact, She makes shit up on the spot during interviews and then when asked to back it up by providing the source of the info she never can.
JBernard79 10 months ago
@JBernard79
where did she make up info
what she said about the president of afghanistan is a little wrong.....the president passed a law saying a husband can deny his wife food if she denies him sex....but the rape part could also be true
but which part was false.....im not sure of the rest of what she said
girlcalledaish 10 months ago
@JBernard79 why because she cares about people and has feelings?
fisherboizz 9 months ago
@fisherboizz No, because she is a cunt that ignores the facts and logic if it might get in the way of her agenda.
JBernard79 9 months ago
@JBernard79
where is she ignoring facts?
girlcalledaish 8 months ago
@girlcalledaish She puts out info that she can't back up when asked to...she is the typical ultra liberal, granola eating bitch.
JBernard79 8 months ago
@JBernard79
what bullshit facts?...what shes saying is true...the conditions for women have gotten worse in afghanistan
girlcalledaish 8 months ago
@JBernard79
and whats that other crazy woman saying 'we didnt start this war'....of course the us govt did
girlcalledaish 8 months ago
Sunsara kind of looks like Tina Faye witch also means she looks like Shara Palin.
tacomadavid68 11 months ago
Sunsara was constantly interrupted by the Fox guy as well as the Democrat. I am quite appalled by that. She should have been allowed to talk unimpeded. I don't necessarily agree with everything she said, but she should have been heard clearly.
Iceberg6606 1 year ago
You just know this Sunsetsara's cunt is going to smell like Hippie oil and Latte's.
Filthy stinky cunt.
Typical liberal though: Blame America, America is evil, etc. I pray for the day we can have a civil war to kill these pussies. Liberals will do more to destroy America than any filthy savage in a dirty bedsheet.
goatbut29 1 year ago
Wow, Sunsara Taylor makes that Democrat look totally sane. Taylor needs a padded room and a straight jacket, not airtime on a network.
bdj010 1 year ago
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bdj010 1 year ago
The one thing that has been missing from the discussions is that Obama campaigned to talk with America's enemies ,as in you can't have peace unless your willing to talk peace with those whom peace is needed ,and instead we have ended up with the Bush doctrine of perpetual war ,whats next North Korea ,Iran ? America is going nowhere fast.
Harbringe 1 year ago
They always shut her up or change topic as soon as she starts stating facts.
utarian7 1 year ago
USA has waged illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, solely for their own imperial needs, and these two a-holes snicker when somebody actually says that out loud?! World isn't any safer, the iraqi and afghani women aren't any safer and the terror continues. What was the point, if not to control the area?
And now they are bombing Pakistan? What next? Yemen? Iran? Venezuela? Cuba? All of the above? This just never ends until more people realizes what is tuly going on...
Haxecer 1 year ago
i have sunsara on facebook shee's wonderful
BOLSHEVIXTREME 1 year ago
@franksinatra34 but obama has esacalted th war by extending it into pakistan and yemen
BOLSHEVIXTREME 1 year ago
Haha looks like Sunsara speaks with sleeping people who dont know reality only state-propaganda
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
She never states what is wrong with Imperialism. Imperialism is good as it opens more markets and provides outlets for our goods. An individual can make a fortune through Imperialism and in most cases, the host country benefits from the constructive management provided. The problems in sub-sahara Africa can be directly traced to the fact that they needed to be colonies for 3 or 4 more generations. They needed that maturation process.
442Ragtop 1 year ago
@442Ragtop God, you're a fucking scum-fucking scumfuck. I'd bash your head in without a thought. Fucking scum. No other words fit you better. Fucking scum.
bapyou 1 year ago
@bapyou is afraid of ideas that contradict his dogma. He’ll attacks then block you from responding. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftists’ beliefs represents Sin. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
the democratic strategist who is for the war is the reason the democratic party will never be respected by real leftists
scatcoitus 1 year ago
So, when Bush was pursuing the same actions in Iraq and being "privy" to certain info, he was a war monger, and Obama isn't? Like Sunsara, I see no difference in this war strategy between the last 2 presidents.
gombis666 1 year ago
Sunsara doesn't realize that shes being protected by the people she's calling rapist, murders, war criminals, etc. I'd like to see her defend herself when the enemy invades and knocks down her door and rapes her, and kills her, sometime in the future; when the enemy (not saying it's terrorist, I'm just using a situation) when the enemy knocks down on Sunsara's door, while she's getting raped and butchered, no soldier is gonna save her.
michaelRedd22fan 1 year ago
This girl is a lunatic.
Agamemnon862 1 year ago
Sunsara is a liar. You know she voted for Obama. She dodges every question in every interview. What a fool and proud to be a communist.
colbymercury 1 year ago
sunsara is great!
and she's hot!
PapGripDezi 1 year ago
i agree with u but not on communism, communism sucks
banjosolid 1 year ago
Sunsara tells the truth and she lives in reality. When will WE wake up from our fantasy world and realize the truth like she has?
mjbyars 1 year ago
Obama=Bush
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
finally someone who agrees that the paranoid Mainstream Americans are incredibly pathetic to believe that Obama is a socialist
BOLSHEVIXTREME 2 years ago
@BOLSHEVIXTREME Thats The Teabag company that runs USA ;) they gotta run propaganda , Sunsara is a true Anti-teabagger and a true patriot of USA while the rest are wannabees state-puppets...
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist America doesn't deserve the titile 'land of the free' it has violated so many rights from people and struggled very hard to give women and minorities simple basic human rights in case some retarded right wing revisionist stood up and claimed t was communism
a lot of people in america labelled susan b anthony and martin luther king jr as communists simply for fighting for civil rights
and quite a few times, king even spoke out against communism
lol what a bunch of dipshits
BOLSHEVIXTREME 1 year ago
@BOLSHEVIXTREME Your totally right man , they built that nation over Native-American land and with their slavetrade companies that still are the owners of USA thats why world gets enslaved now...
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist Look at all of the communist countries of the past. NONE have worked.
bdj010 1 year ago
@bdj010 Thats bullshit , Belarus did way better than fallen eastern block that became enslaved in extreme poberty..
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist Bullshit! Communism doesn't work and never will. This is the real world. Communism may look good on paper but it just doesn't work on planet earth.
bdj010 1 year ago
@bdj010 You really know nothing do you? look at all scandinavian countries that copied huge amounts of socialism in their systems cause their countries were falling apart cuz of capitalism!!
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist I have lived in America all my life and I know that freedom is better. The Czech Republican and many others got a lot better after they privatised their business and industry and went to a capitalist form of government. Now they have one of the top economies in Europe.
bdj010 1 year ago
@bdj010 Socialist freedom man , theres no freedom but restrictions in capitalist usa...
Bulgaria , Russia and eastern europe even the checkolovakia nations got an economical cataclysm after the fall
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist Well you do know that is not what Sunsara Taylor is about, right? Read up on her and the Revolutionary Communist Party, and especially Bob Avakian.
BTW, I live in America, you don't. I think I know more about what I am talking about here than you do. My day-to-day life is full of freedom.
bdj010 1 year ago
@bdj010 Your seriously mean that the idea of stopping all wars, start better welfare programs , stop the monopoly of the US 2party system of so called rival parties that do the same darn thing the rockefellers and oilmafiosos in the DC ministate tells em to do is a bad thing? come on Sweden got turned from a third world country to a prosperous country , and my freedom is not gone .. Unless u sit there with billions of us dollars and guard em like a watchdog by some american delusion...
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist What Taylor wants is not like any of that. Read up on the Revolutionary Communist Party. Also, this is not Sweden. You may think you are free but you are really not.
bdj010 1 year ago
@bdj010 Oh sorry man , i thought they were communist , their page states that they are stuck into the Maoist dogmatist ideas , thats bad cuz society cant go back in time =)
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
She rocks.
marcelthemaoist 2 years ago
WHy does she rock?? FOr not listening to arguments being presented or distortioning facts (as most of these left nutjobs do). (I am not American) but the people in Afghanistan are better off with military in the country protecting them. I also would argue for withdrawing military from there because why should we risk our lifes and waste our money on people (Afghans) who obviously cannot live without smashing each other s head (or oppressing women s rights, for this matter).
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
She rocks because she counter pro-imperialist dribble like yours, putting forward the FACTS while being rudely interrupted, and saying the things that people should really hear, all while being SLANDERED as a "nutjob" by these very assholes that lie and help fuck over the world. I don't give fuck what you think Afghans are better with, that should not be anyone's call other than Afghans, that's the point. Your lives are not worth more than any other. GTFO out of Afghanistan, end of story!
marcelthemaoist 2 years ago
She (Sunsara) is pityful like a little child. She interrupts, gestures hysterically and does not listen to facts or answers to arguments and questions Laura asks. Laura effectively makes her look a clown.
Apart from that, I also agree that military should get out of Afghanistan, that no money or foreign lives should be wasted on stupid freedom-hating, ignorant talibans who rape and kill women and people who do not fit in their rotten system of thinking that is hidden behind the Islam.
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
@joaquinveyron You are talking like this is not the The FActor and Fox News
"cut the mike" or giving REpublicrats unfair amount of time
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
"pro-imperialist"??? Because there are people who want to free and feed oppressed people in Afghanistan???
And what about you, are you Maoist?? So you support a killer of tens of millions of CHinese. You support freedom oppressing communist dictatorship, corruption, mis-management Communism is the cancer in the world. Every communist country that existed ended up as rotten shitholes.
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
Yes, I really believe that these assholes led an invasion of Afghanistan to "free and feed people", that is after raising the same oppressors to power and losing control of them, like Iraq and all the other places they gave power to tyrants, right?
I don't support any "killer of tens of millions" that's just a superficial lie and Mao is dead. There is no such thing as a "communist country".
Sunsara debates better than you, obviously, Laura is an ignorant loudmouth that spouts lies
marcelthemaoist 2 years ago
Sunny debates at all??? Watch this ...
watch?v=Jw8VEwHUlJs
There she defends Mao s rotten communism that led to tens of millions dead. It is not a superficial lie that Mao and his stupid commies were responsible for tens of millions dead Chinese (due to famines and due to terror).
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
"There is no such thing as a "communist country"." Well, China still is ... but a proof again that communism is the root of destruction: before 1980 during communism, China was in misery, poverty, opppressed human rights, the country was a rotten shithole. Now, with the door open to free market, CHina s economy has been growing dynamicall for 3 decades, wealth is at reach fro many (not for all though). In sum, the living conditions for most of the CHinese improved by millions of miles!
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
"that is after raising the same oppressors to power and losing control of them, like Iraq and all the other places they gave power to tyrants, right?" Yes, probably true. This is the fact with these rotten countries. You can t help them. Whatever you do to help them, they end up turning their countries in rotten shitholes.
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
@joaquinveyron but they have lived in a society where they had women's rights and USA destroyed it
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
Sunsara was great, considering she was given the least time to talk and was rudely interrupted by the ranting rightest anchor.
eyadayesh 2 years ago
What was she great at?? For distortioning facts, ignoring and not listening to arguments others present to hear? With stupid people like Suns nobody would do anything. Problems would not be solved at all. Women would continue to be raped and oppressed in Afghanistan.
joaquinveyron 2 years ago
@joaquinveyron 30 Years ago women were Politicians in Afghanistan
I think I remember an Afghanistan talking about how they use to have Disco's
And dont give me the bullshit that we were trying to attack The soviet Union through them... they asked for out help anyone's help but we dint give it to them...
We gave help to religious extremism
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
We aided Massoud's Northern Alliance, not the religious extremists. Pakistan's ISI backed the religious extremists, most notably the Taliban - the US was compelled by an agreement with the Soviets to pull their support from Afghanistan, in exchange for a Soviet withdrawal from the country.
As for Afghanistan under the Soviet occupation, it was far from a "woman's paradise" - the Red Army killed 2-3% of the population during their stay, most of the dead being civilians.
DrCruel 2 years ago
and your point about the red army killing that many? maybe it was needed look who they were up against... and now USA is killing people hoping it will be as good in Afghanistan as it was in the 70's
And the Soviet "occupation" was not needed... they just wanted help from anyone not just Soviets
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
The Russian Marxists assassinated the Afghan leadership and imposed a Marxist dictatorship under Taraki. When the people overthrew him the Marxists put in new dictators, until finally becoming frustrated and invading, then ruling directly.
The Soviets poisoned village wells. They made a special kind of explosive mine in the shape of a small butterfly toy, with only enough explosives to blow off a hand or a foot, so that the children who picked them up or stepped on them would be mutilated.
DrCruel 2 years ago
The Russian Bolsheviks were fighting agains the Afghan people, just as the Russians had before the rise of the Marxist state in Russia. The difference in 1980 was that the Russian invaders at the time were Marxists, and therefore the leadership had no sense of conscience or shame.
There is no honorable excuse for the genocidal war that the Marxists waged in Afghanistan.
DrCruel 2 years ago
@DrCruel so giving money to the Mujahadeen(Taliban) in a war then no money to the country... Destroying the infrastructure then coming back years later to take control of the drug trade
The Communist government the best healthcare industry and infrastruture that Afganistan will ever have, and USA destroyed that because they were Communist not because they killed people because so many other countries did that
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
The indigenous people destroyed these so-called "benefactors", not the US. The Bolsheviks even attempted a genocide in teh country to pacify the people, but failed miserably.
When the Soviets brought in Hind helicopters and tanks to use against villagers, the US provided Stinger and TOW missiles to Massoud. So instead of a successful genocide, the Soviets had to accept defeat.
"Health care"? "Infrastructure"? What a load of crap. The Marxists tore the country up for eight years.
DrCruel 2 years ago
You like propaganda? and are kinda retarded because it is a known facted that the soviet occupation had the best healthcare and infrastructure and the Mujahadeen destroyed the country...
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
I rather like facts, actually. The one million casualty figure is not "propaganda", nor is the history of assassination, repression and mass murder that accompanied Taraki's murderous PDPA and the subsequent Soviet invasion and supression campaign in Afghanistan that followed, once Taraki was overthrown.
The Bolshevik record in Afghanistan is outrageously vile, and well documented as such. I can't believe a decent person would try to defend it.
DrCruel 2 years ago
im not debating that they killed millions but USA killed more with their tactics.
fund the Mujahadeen when the Soviets leave do NOTHING let them fight it out then after several millions die from that they come in and say "democracy" and US citizens are stupid and think they actually have one
America starved the People of Afghanistan and Iraq then they invade
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
So then. Let's get this narrative straight:
Afghanistan had a functional government, until it was ousted by the pro-Soviet Daoud in 1973. He in turn was overthrown by the Marxist PDPA in 1978. Thereafter Taraki ruled as a despot, until his own people killed him, eventually prompting the Soviet Union to invade and rule directly. For eight years the Soviets slaughtered the Afghan people.
BUT the US is at fault. Because we half-heartedly tried to stop the Soviets from finishing the job.
DrCruel 2 years ago
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No need to spread the "news" about communism. Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
shanghaikidx 2 years ago
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No need to spread the "news" about communism. Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
shanghaikidx 2 years ago
@joaquinveyron Women love rape and battery like wild dogs love the smell of rotten food and shit. It's the nature of hysterical women to be attracted to the criminal sociopath. The two simply goes together like jam on toast.
technatezin 1 year ago
I would love to have sex with Sunsara and have yell fuck me harder you imperialist pig.
tacomadavid68 2 years ago
man Sunsara is hot lol She's also right in a lot of ways about the war.
ssiknick83 2 years ago 5
@ssiknick83 She is also a communist nutjob.
bdj010 1 year ago
lmao, I thought Obama was running on the platform that he was anti-war and that he was going to do everything he could to pull out of the middle east, I didn't know that he just wanted to take control of our imperialist empire...lmao
FLBMX66 2 years ago
Oh Sunsara, wake up honey, it is time to face the world darling. Life is real. Not some communist, marxist fairy tale you learned in liberal land. WE THE PEOPLE WILL prevail against your agenda of b.s.! Only Chairman Mao is proud of you. (Oh wait, Chairman Mao is dead) Sweetie, your are so delusional! I hear they have great institutions for the mentally insane. It will be okay. They will take good care of you and you can color pictures of your favorite communists! Won't that be special!!!
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
sunsara taylor is a fucking idiot , if we do nothing the terrorist will continue to kill people , now we may never be able to kill every terrorist but doing nothing does not slove the problems we face from terrorist and that what people like her just don't get, they think if we do nothing then the terrorist would leave us alone
cocobear33 2 years ago
cocobear- we do not know for certain what Sunsara's sexual activities are or are not. So it is not fair to say "fucking" and idiot when referring to her. Idiot will do just fine. I don't know is she's into the "fucking" part or not. A little TMI, for me. IDK.
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
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i think that sunsara taylor should die
eugdog106 2 years ago
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No, she should not die! She should be forced to live in Communist China where she would not have the "freedom" to run off with diarrhea of the mouth. She'd be jailed within a year. Free speech is not a right in China! If she is so hell bent on Communism, she should join her comrades and suffer like they suffer. That would be worse than death. Then, Sunsara might be grateful that she had rights at one time. That will never happen. She is delusional and clueless!
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
LOL. You're funny.
AntidoteY 2 years ago
I'll take that as a compliment? Reading your profile, I am not sure. But for now, I'll go with compliment. Take care!
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
I take my previous comment back, i saw Sunsara on the train, i smiled and she looked away...this was in NYC
biatch!!!
sinopo 2 years ago
@sinopo people are not always what they seem to be.
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
maybe you were smiling strangely? ;)
NeroroPuj 2 years ago
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shanghaikidx 2 years ago
sunsara is amazing
hairybeast101 2 years ago
Sunsara is amazingly eat up with DUMB!
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
i love Sunsara, she always has some radical statements to make. Also, it is incredibly hard on the web to find personal info of her, but right now i've noticed she has aged.
Let's go communism!
sinopo 2 years ago
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This Sunsara Taylor chick is stupid. Commie Pinko Fag. Get a life!
YouNeedHelpSoon 2 years ago
It bothers me that they gave Sunsara in such a shitty background. Her split screen section is way too dark...
0800RelevantElephant 2 years ago
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Sunsara isint exactly an intelligent or intellectually gifted person at all. Shes a flipping communist. she has no credibility whatsoever. She writes for communist newspapers and is a member of the RCP. She supports an ideology that has killed over 100,000,000 people in the 20th century.
DaleJrbudweiser8 2 years ago
WOW !!! Sunsara can hold her own. Anyone with a legitimate argument has to talk over those idiot talking heads. She stays calm and gets many great points out. Way to go !!!
MaryAnnThomas 2 years ago 5
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Sunsara Taylor is a raving lunatic. She WAS ranting and raving. That's all she knows to do! Her cause is completely flawed. She just doesn't get it! She made the Democratic Strategist look like a far right conservative! She needs to get a life! We are at War. We were attacked on our soil! We took the war to their turf. Do you remember the attacks of 09-11-01? Do any of the images you saw on that day matter? Get real!
mhbrowning 2 years ago
MHBrowning - You are the one who doesn't get it ! This country is so filled with fear ! When you live in fear and you respond in fear you hurt yourself and others. This country, my country, is hurting its self and millions of others. I remember the attacks on 911. I saw the planes hit the building. Do unto others as you WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.
MaryAnnThomas 2 years ago
Believe me. I get it. This is REAL life, not some Communist fairy tale. When we were attacked, George W. Bush led this great nation with courage and determination. Sunsara Taylor and people like her stand for an agenda that would destroy our whole way of life. She and her cause weakens this nation. I do not live in fear. I live one day at a time, knowing that freedom isn't free. It comes with a price. I will pray that God opens your eyes to the truth.
mhbrowning 2 years ago
When we were attached, George W Bush sat in a class room, like the good dummy he was, supposedly reading a book with young children. One plane hit and he sat. A second plane hit and he sat. They didn't rush him to a bunker. WHY? Chaney called for a stand down of the Air Force planes. WHY? The twin towers came down at the speed of gravity. HOW? You believe in Lies. WHY? I know the answer to all but the last. How to make you realize the media is full of lies. Maybe you know & r part of
MaryAnnThomas 2 years ago
Cheney could not give an order to stand down any military action. He was not the Commander and Chief. Only Bush could give that order. So far so left! No thanks on the offer to go "toe to toe" any day of the week. And about the whole lies thing, Wow, you must really love fiction. Oh and by the way, things do fall to the ground, it's called gravity. Very good! I learned about that in third grade. I am done with this whole subject. We shall see who prevails here, the truth or your lies!
mhbrowning 2 years ago
"This is REAL life, not some Communist fairy tale. "
You do know though that politics is about shaping the understanding of reality, right? That's why you talk about "this great nation". Someone introduced this concept to you and your forefathers at some point and you've internalized it by now.
George Bush could have reacted in multiple other ways which could have just as well "kept your country safe" yet without killing hundreds of thousands "sand niggers". There isn't just one "right" way!
0800RelevantElephant 2 years ago
Chadderdon does sound like a voice of the Bush Regime, yes she does...and this is an important thing to note, because she is putting forward the Obama war doctrine. The only thing that has changed with this recent election is the face leading US empire.
How refreshing, and so sorely needed, to hear Sunsara Taylor speak the truth on Fox.News, of all places. Great job! We need more of this.
cthebean 2 years ago 4
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The U.S. empire? What planet are you from? This is the United States of America! We were attacked and we fought back. There is no Imperialistic Agenda in defending our nation! That is what our government is supossed to do! Protect this nation. God Bless the U.S.A.
mhbrowning 2 years ago
fuck the u.s. fuck your god. take your head out of your ass. the u.s. is a nightmare, it has been so since it was founded. i don't support the fucking cunts that attacked you, but you justify the destruction of a nation (that had nothing to do with it) because two towers were destroyed. course you fucking morons are taught to praise the actions of the u.s. in wwii because of an attack on a naval base. you people are perpetually fucked in the head. go suck a dick you stupid puppet
nicblank 2 years ago 2
Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause. Victor Hugo
Open your eyes! Remove your head from the sand and see the truth! While you are at it, get a vocabulary instead of using so many expletives (you might want to look that word up in the dictionary). That's so unbecoming. I am not impressed. Do you eat out of that mouth?
mhbrowning 2 years ago
yes i do, i also eat your wife's pussy out with it too.
i've opened my eyes a long time ago in a history class, nearly vomited from the disgust with the u.s. dumb shits like you can not get the order of cause and effect right, you think that these assholes attacked your country just up and out of nowhere. why don't you get a materialist grasping of history... still love this worthless country? wish you were on the plane or in the tower! you disgust me. one more for the road: FUCK AMERIKKKA!
nicblank 2 years ago
nicblank-
"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" Victor Hugo
If you don't like it here, then perhaps you'd like to live in, oh let's say Somalia? Or Cuba, or even Mexico? Better yet, go to Iran. That way you can use all your anti-American sentiment towards the total destruction of civilization as we know it. You took one history class and you think you know it all? You must have a week mind and stomach!
God Bless the U.S.A. !!!! (Even you!)
mhbrowning 2 years ago
I notice you comment on all of Sunsara's youtubes. And continue to comment. How much are you paid? Your refrain, love it or leave it. The cowards route. If you don't like it, change it for the better.
I don't have a week mind or stomach. Toe to toe any day of the week.
MaryAnnThomas 2 years ago
I am not paid anything. I am exercising my right to free speech. My comment about a weak mind and stomach was not directed at you. It was directed towards NICBLANK. You did read his statements or did you miss the whole (expletive deleted) remarks about America? I also suggested since he seems not to like America, that perhaps he should try living elsewhere. I actually agree with on one point. If you do not like something, fight to change it. I just cannot support the Communist Agenda.
mhbrowning 2 years ago
no "week" mind huh
gex581990 2 years ago
@MaryAnnThomas Saw your post- the word is spelled weak in the context used here. I know that the English language can be difficult for some. If you use the Mozilla web browser, it spell checks for you as you go along. It may help you. TTFN! "God Bless America, land that I love!"
LIBERTYTREE60 2 years ago
All you guys know is foul language. Like mhbrowning, I wonder if you are paid for all this vile language and blogging or do you do it just to jerk off. Because you are a jerk.
MaryAnnThomas 2 years ago
No one's justifying the "destruction" of any nation. We went into Iraq to remove a leader we had legitimate intelligence saying he posed a threat to us. That intelligence was wrong. We never said he had anything to do with 9/11. It's a broader war on terrorists. We didn't "destroy" them. We went in to remove him and then rebuild. Most of the "destruction" is what they did to each other. Shouldn't praise the actions in WWII, huh? Would you have preferred Hitler achieve world domination??
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Of course it was legitimate. That's what our government says. And who are we to judge that?
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
It's not just our government, buddy. The top intelligence agencies from several different nations saw the same intelligence and came to the same conclusions. We also have an independent media in this country (and one who, I might add, was not particularly fond of the last administration) who has access to the information from those other perfectly credible intelligence outfits. Anyone looking objectively at the facts will acknowledge this.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Ah, so predictable. There's been a major scandal in Great Britain, if you haven't heard, over the Bush administration's decision to "motivate" the intelligence services to furnish the kind of intelligence suitable to the White House's gang.
The foreign services (like Israel's, for one example) have their own motives for wanting to see the United States either mired in Iraq or stepping over Iraqi bodies.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
With all those untold billions we have invested in the best security and intelligence services in the world, it's funny how systematic the "mistakes" of our administrations are.
Golly, Bush said he had irrefutable evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
He just didn't produce any: why?
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
He did produce it, it just turned out to be wrong. There can be intelligence failures with even the best of them. Considering the fact that Saddam convinced his own henchmen of his possession of those weapons, it's kind of understandable.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Take another glance at what I posted again: "Bush said he had irrefutable evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction."
He didn't produce any irrefutable evidence for out invasion; in fact, he didn't produce any evidence that went unscrutinized and undebunked in the prelude leading up to our present quagmire.
Whom did Saddam convince? His public statements were that Iraq had no weapons then. And the stuff he'd used on the Kurds (in '88) was Western, supplied by Ronnie Reagan.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
He produced various intelligence reports that we had no reason to believe were not credible. The only one that was debunked before we went in was the uranium from Africa point, and you types like to claim that he built the case only on that. HE DIDN'T!!! There was also evidence about chem/bio weapons that. Yes, there was some intel saying he didn't have them, but Bush decided to manage against the worst case scenario. I'm sorry but I can't fault him for that.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Yes, his "public statements" were that he had gotten rid of all the weapons. (How is where they came from relevant? Reagan supported both sides of that war in the hopes that the U.S. would never have to get involved any further than that). The point is we knew he'd have no hesitation to use them on us if he still had them, and even people in his own government believed he had them. They've spoken to many of them since he was disposed.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Wasn't even just that, buster. China saw the same intel, Russia saw the same intel, even France saw the same intel. (They were just bribed by Saddam to never vote to authorize war in the security council. Those documents were found after Saddam was expelled.) Even Saddam's own henchmen thought he had the weapons. It was called managing against the worst case scenario.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Yes, they were just bribed by Saddam to never vote to authorize war in the Security Council.
Did we find any WMDs?
We're finished here. Believe what you want.
Evidently you're certain that the U.S. had no geopolitical interests in becoming involved in the region; we simply happen to be the world's first largest monger of humanitarian warfare.
Saddam's weapons would have been just such a large threat to America, evidently.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Yes, they were, and the documents proving that were discovered when we expelled Saddam. I didn't say we did find the WMD's, I said the intelligence was there to believe he did. I also said the intelligence turned out to be wrong. I never said it was "humanitarian warfare" I said our "geopolitical interests" were keeping our people from what we had every reason to believe was a credible threat.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
The "documents" that were found alleging that major figures in the European capitals had been bribed by Saddam were dismissed as fakes set up by the George Bush-authorized puppet government of Iraq according to the British papers. Name just one court case that emerged from them.
You already have your head deep in the sand. Go on and prove it.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Court case that emerged from WHAT? You're going to have to prove that one to me, but whatever the case, even if it's true, it doesn't change the fact that those other countries saw the same intelligence we did and came to the same conclusions. They just chose not to act on it, for whatever reason they might have had.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Take a look. This isn't a Marxist newspaper. This is US conservative Cliff Kincaid, telling us about the forgery story in the Christian Science Monitor:
aim . org / media-monitor / christian-science-monitor-apologizes
What irrefutable intelligence did the French, the Russians - or anybody - have about Saddam?
Some thought it was a possibility: none of the concrete, irrefutable evidence alleged by Bush ever existed. Not here nor there.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
But to seriously believe that even if Saddam had some kind of weapons program, the threat from his regime would have been such that the United States was justified in initiating the mass slaughter known as the Iraq quagmire is simply laughable: who won't dismiss this outright?
The fact that you choose to hide behind refuted "documents" alleging bribery of anti-war people, already debunked in domestic and international press years ago, is pretty telling.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
And this confirms that your benevolent government is not some "angel of democracy."
The people's interests have long been ripped apart and marginalized by the ruling class.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
I didn't say we were an "angel of democracy"--Bush's relabeling the war as an effort to spread democracy once the intelligence turned out to be faulty was a HUGE mistake. It was about responding to perfectly legitimate intelligence indicating that Saddam posed a threat to us.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Bush's rehabilitating the war was a simple act of finding another slogan for the same policy of hegemonic dominance over the globe because he'd been promoting as taking care of weapons of mass destruction to begin with.
Funny how that doesn't contradict our very warm support for theocratic Saudi Arabia, Saddam during the '80s, Pinochet's coup against an elected Leftist, the CIA's overthrow of Mosaddegh, Iran's only democratically elected prime minister, and, and...
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
It's always either spreading democracy or, when the war is too big to get the people to buy into that... it's a security threat.
And when it turns out there isn't, it's the commitment to democracy... Again.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Has nothing to do with "hegemonic dominance over the globe"--only to do with responding to credible threats against the very existence of this nation. Yes, he panicked when the weapons weren't found so he gave a very dumb picture of trying to rehabilitate the war. Those we supported had not threatened us at the time. Saddam turned on us after we did not allow him to ride roughshod over Kuwait in 1990-91. None of those we supported at the time had ever threatened us.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
"Has nothing to do with 'hegemonic dominance over the globe'--only to do with responding to credible threats against the very existence of this nation."
Of course. Because that America = good is just a truth so set in stone, that it cannot be questioned.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Because that's common knowledge to anyone who isn't a whackjob like you. Not because I say so, because that's been completely proven over and over. We sent numerous supplies to aid in there to ensure that innocents didn't die from our blockade and that only the government would be damaged. Apparently those aid supplies never got there--what explanation would you offer for that?
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Doesn't do much good when you send a bunch of supplies while the electricity for Iraqi babies in incubators gets cut because of the blockade there, does it?
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Learn a few things before you become national spokesman, brosif.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
I've learned quite a few things, thank you very much. And one of the things I learn is that this country tries to protect the civilians who could be victimized by actions we must take to protect our own, but we can only be so successful. I don't care about one-liners, I care about the truth, and that's what this is.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Our country loves to protect civilians.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
We do what we can, which is more than can be said for most other armies in the world, who don't bother to make any distinction innocents and legitimate targets for attacks. There's only so much we can do, but we certainly do more than almost any other army. I know people in the army, buster, and I know the nearly impossible standards they are held to in this regard.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Not when we tried to PREVENT this from happening, but Saddam needed deaths to blame on us for his propaganda campaign and getting gulliable fools like you to buy into it. Get a fucking clue buddy
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Find a better one-liner.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
I didn't say America always equals good, but the fact is there WERE credible indications of threats, and if it were really about "hegemonic dominance over the globe" many features of this fight would be very different than they actually are. For example we might have actually taken Iraqi oil (we haven't). We might be planning a permanent presence there (we're not--we've been trying to find a responsible way to get out from the start). It's called logic, maybe you've heard of it
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Our support for those theocratic (but never at the time having threatened us) regimes was a little concept known as "realpolitik"--maybe you've heard of it. It was in the context of the Cold War in that they could help us fight communist Russia if need be. In laymen's terms, it's called supporting a bad guy against a worse guy. You know, kinda like helping Stalin in order to take out Hitler. Sometimes those kinds of concessions are necessary, buddy, this is the real world we're living in.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Sacred Cold War bullshit. Because Guatemala's Arbenz and Iran's Mosaddegh were just such grave commie threats...
Maybe we're invading and installing our men all over the place - which country is it that has gone to war more often than any other in the 20th century? - because they are going to help us fight somebody else off, too.
"You know, kinda like helping Stalin in order to take out Hitler."
Bad analogy. Hitler declared war on us.
(Realpolitik is capitalized, Mr. Intellectual.)
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Actually the two biggest mistake wars of the 20th century--Korea and Vietnam--were fought for precisely that purpose--to strengthen anti-Communist regimes over pro ones if we needed them in a more major fight against Russia. When you have the whole world looking to you to protect them, then yes, you will tend to go to war more often than others. What does it matter that Hitler declared war on us? Precisely why we NEEDED Stalin to help us against him. Doesn't disprove anything you say.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
It's not so much those regimes were the commie threats as the ones we could support against them would be much greater assets in such a fight. And no, the threat posed by a WMD-armed Saddam is not "right-wing masturbation"--it's again the simple ability to use logic and reason. I'll spell it out for you. Leader who has called for attacks against us + the weapons to carry out such attacks = THREAT TO THE U.S.!!! You only showed me that evidence about GALLOWAY was planted, not any of the others
ADEAL918 2 years ago
what you're saying is just factually incorrect. saddam never posed a threat to the US. based on reports from the UN weapons inspectors, there was never any intelligence to conclude that Iraq had stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. the weapons of mass destruction Saddam did have during the Iran-Iraq War were sold to him by the US and others, and they were destroyed during and after the first Gulf War. And nuclear weapons that could hit the US? are you really dumb enough to believe that?
maosaytounge49 2 years ago
That's not what numerous other intelligence agencies were saying. There was conflicting evidence, and what Bush did was manage against the worst case scenario. The was FAR more evidence to the WMD's than just the uranium from Africa debaucle. No "lies" involved. Several nations' top intelligence agencies saw the intel and came to the same conclusion we did. We couldn't ignore that.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Oh do you mean the "evidence" that Saddam bought uranium from Africa? that document that was declared false by US ambassadors before the war? what about this hysteria spread by Bush and Co about a "smoking gun"? they were LYING. Saddam having connections to al-Qaeda? Saddam was al-qaeda's enemy. do some homework or shut the fuck up.
maosaytounge49 2 years ago
Sure Saddam may have been Al-Qaida's "enemy" but we were Stalin's enemy too, still worked with him to take out Hitler. Regional enemies are more than willing to work together against a mutual much larger enemy. NO QUESTION Saddam would have helped Al-Qaida take us out if he had still possessed the WMD's that many nations' intel indicated he did. By the way, you don't have a whole lot of credibility with that profile name. If you admire him, you're in no position to criticize ANYTHING Bush did
ADEAL918 2 years ago
You still haven't proved anything to me about the refuting of those documents. And yes, if he had the weapons, that certainly would have necessitated action being taken, given that he most certainly had threatened us and called for attacks on the U.S. That plus the actual weapons to carry out such attacks equals a GRAVE threat. Any sane person wouldn't dismiss this outright. And by the way, most of the "mass slaughter" in Iraq has been Iraqis killing other Iraqis.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
I've just shown you how the Iraqi puppet ministry disseminated forgeries after the "liberation" of Iraq by Bush-Cheney, Inc.
Try the Christian Science Monitor's revelation.
And yes, Saddam Hussein's shitty little dictatorship, where up to 500,000 children died during the U.S. blockade according to respectable estimates, was one heck of a fucking threat to the United States.
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
I just addressed that revelation. It only mentions Galloway--NOTHING about the French, the Russians, the Chinese, etc. And yes, intelligence indicated the presence of those weapons plus Saddam's threat equals CREDIBLE THREATS, BUDDY!!!! Those deaths were SADDAM'S RESPONSIBILITY!!!! We tried to get aid supplies--food, medicine, etc. but he made sure they never got to those who needed them so he could blame their deaths on us, and get gullible fools like you to fall for it.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
The intelligence may not have been "irrefutable" but it was certainly credible. I'm well aware that there was intelligence on both sides, but all those nations believed the yes intelligence to be credible. That article refers only to supposed bribes to the British--I had never even heard such an allegation. I had heard about France, Russia, and China, and my sources were well after your refutation of only the british story. You've shown me no refutation of those bribes.
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Are you this naive? Member of Parliament Galloway's name came from the same lists of names in the "recovered" Iraqi ministry documents that were dismissed as forgeries by the Christian Science Monitor here in the states, the conservative posterboy Cliff Kincaid, and the international press, such as the European papers.
This is your source for an alleged Iraqi conspiracy to "bribe off" people to oppose war based on faux U.S. "intelligence."
Again: know of any prosecution for these bribes?
inbrooklyn2008 2 years ago
Prove that to me, buddy. I only saw Galloway's name mentioned in that article. I NEVER saw Chirac's name, Putin's name, the other Russian candidates' names, or the Chinese leaders' names. Show me an article that talks about the bribes to those others being a "forgery." Again, I read this LONG after the Galloway ones would have been shown false, so these are different documents altogether. Uhhh, it was Saddam himself doing the bribing, so I think we had bigger things to prosecute him for
ADEAL918 2 years ago