You can call 'corporate greed' all you want, but it's the continuous climb up the ladder. Are we to act like the ladder never stops? And are we too pretend we don't envy that high ladder? West is trying to get all gangsta and he's full of shit, selling his books and shit. Yeah, give your life when you have a gun at your head, not selling books on a talk show.
@DrOctopusBJJ HIs name escapes me for a moment. But he's a journalist. Made famous for his work in Iraq and Afghanistan. The guy is actually pretty awesome.
Am I wrong in thinking that nearly every black man IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY (needed to sress that) is a fucking moron? I mean my only source of information are shows like this and it might be the case that they are only inviting idiots on. But for fucks sake, to be a black republican sounds to me like being a Jewish neonazi.
In reality, the Occupiers and the Tea Party people have discust over generally the same issue: Corporatism. When wall street execs abuse the tax payer bail outs by giving themselves big bonuses, the Occupiers rally against it. When the gov't gives tax payer money to selected corporations, the Tea Party people rally against it. I've heard both of those movements DEMONIZED by many and realized that it's another thing being used to keep people divided. The U.S. Constitution is what keeps us UNITED.
Ron Christie... Perfect example of the self deluded elitist idiot. Wonder if he can do any better than Bush with pronouncing the word.... Nu...Cleeeeee...Aaaarrrrr.
West is right. Most average Americans don't demonize the wealthy. We don't begrudge them their success. We demonize GREED! If I have to pay 30% in taxes on my measly middle class income, they should have to pay 30% on their ridiculously huge income. Why is this so hard for corporate moguls to understand?
It's easy to spout and believe Ron's "fabric" line, if you're on the rich end of that statement. It's not about money, we're all in this together guys, we're American.
@SID480 You obviously don't know the meaning of the word bigot. Its usage refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, nationality, language, sexual orientation, and age. I was using correct in a humerous sense. While they have differing views, they don't hate each other Oh and at the end of this, they shook hands so I don't know what your talking about. Next time, study words before you use them, fool. Later loser!
@Blackman1000ify that which you defined is a hostile person or a chauvinist to some extent , "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs". West is so obstinate with his own beliefs that he can not stand listening to someone with an opinion different from his and therefore interrupts him. "study words before you use them... Later loser!"
@Blackman1000ify The fact that I am talking with someone who cannot come up with a proper argument in a RESPECTFUL way, but rather spouts: "If that's the b.s. opinion you got to tell yourself parrot. Now piss off.", tells me that I am dealing with a not very intelligent person who is not worth my time. What a shame!
This is video perfectly demonstrates the American liberal mindset today: proclaim that you're tolerant of other views from the rooftops but when someone disagrees, bark at them before they complete their sentence and call them a bigot, idiot, ignorant, etc. And clap/cheer whenever another liberal talks.
@ThePhantom135 And to further emphasize your point; look, your comment which disagrees to the majority liberal audience has been flagged as spam. That proofs how bigoted this liberal audience actually is.
@SID480 Or it could just be people are allergic to bullshit lol. If someone says something that is ohhh factual wrong, like 2+2=5 and people flag it as spam, they must be bigoted or they have no tolerance for nonsense. Let's be real, all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed under the weight of reality. Because it's not rejected with sunshine and flowers doesn't make it bigotry. The people who say it is such are babies and should go back to the playground.
@SID480 Can't make a case quote mining. I mean you could, but you would be dishonest. "all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed UNDER THE WEIGHT OF REALITY." Meaning if they can't or don't hold up, we move on and attempts to still debate bad ideas is a waste of time. If that fact doesn't come of nicely and is consider bigotry, then the problem is with the overly sensitive and they can either deal with it or go back to the sand box. I rest my case
@Blackman1000ify lol This is just to sharpen my skills because as I am sure you are aware, the world is full of crazies and we just can't ignore them. Some of them can be reached. But it takes time. I just love how he labels bigotry on a disagreement because it has passion. These overly sensitive types, in my experience are always amusing to me and sometimes, wrongfully so, I push their crybaby buttons on purpose lol
@moety2 Yeah, but when you're dealing with a wuss who couldn't last 2 seconds in a DEBATE without labeling your response as bigotry, it could get tedious. Personally I think you won it by stating the obvious.
@SID480 You again? I see you're still an ass and those were only three comments. Aren't you that guy who couldn't go a comment without labeling the other's bigotry? Its a debate, if you don't know what it is, look it up in the dictionary
@SID480 Its tedious 2 argue against someone who can't prove their points like u. So I stopped commenting back because what u say isn't that important to me. If it still matters 2 u, I pity u.
@Blackman1000ify hahahaha give me a break, who are you trying to convince with that. The real reason why you cannot comment is because you have nothing to say. BTW it is 4 comments you removed. and so what, "I only removed 3 comments" I wonder what those comments said that make you erase them. I is sad indeed. the only comments you left were those which didn't really say anything but insult. No sir, it is I who pity you because at the end of the day you are just someone who...
@Blackman1000ify ...insult people in order to prove their point of view. "oh you call me a bigot" that your only argument which is not an argument. You say I can't prove my points, please specify which point you want me to prove and I see to it. You on the other hand have no point at all to prove. and you are bigoted because you are intolerant of other people opinions. CALLING YOU BIGOT, DOES NOT DISCREDIT MY ARGUMENT, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A BIGOT. cheers
@SID480 Dude, get a life. I don't care about what you have to say. You think West, moety2 and me are bigots because we don't share Christie or your beliefs. We have different opinions. West & Christie are aware of that in this video and me and moety2 are aware of it. The only guy who doesn't get it is u. I don't hate u at all for having a silly idea of what bigotry is but I really think you should consult a dictionary. If u ask me, you're the bigot because u can't accept that.
@WorthlessLoser8 Fine, I'll give u a chance. Why do u use it? Wouldn't be easier to leave it alone then use it because some people won't share your view on it?
I use it because censoring it feeds prejudicial stereotypes, because few know that the word can mean human and does to many, because humanizing it can't be done without using it and because people can change over time... There are many hurtful words, but only this word has the power to heal itself and to be used to heal additional terms...
Anyway, i also tell people about it in person, so what i said was somewhat misleading here... Take care bro.
@WorthlessLoser8 Okay, if you say so. But be careful, that word is still offensive & not every single person will accept your view on it. Take care & watch your back when using it.
@moety2 seems to me you are arrogant and have no respect for other people's opinions. I for once have never insulted you personally only disagreed. That is what is to be a good debater. and probably I would have misread your comment if it wasn't so badly articulated, but then so what, what ideas are the ones you are referring to that you say lacks truth. you are saying something without saying anything, be more specific. Please reflect on that.
@SID480 You have a naive perspective. Opinions must be respectable in order to respect them. Some people have the opinion that they should have slaves or that women should be treated less then men. Am I suppose to respect those opinions? Of course not. Would you? I have not insulted you, called you names etc. Honestly speaking, you are a bit to sensitive and quick to call something bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply. And I told you explain how my comments are bigoted first
@moety2 you are completely bringing the matter out of context, we are not talking about slavery or chauvinism so please don't try and evade the subject. You are really evading the question, what ideas are the ones you are referring to that you say lacks truth? (THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND), and as I told the other guy, "CALLING YOU BIGOT, DOES NOT DISCREDIT MY ARGUMENT, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A BIGOT" so stop using that argument to avoid giving real responses.
@SID480 Context is to assume all opinions must be respected simply because someone holds them. Opinions should be looked at skeptically and the evidence that supports them before they are deemed respectable. I am not evading. I was talkin about any idea that people spit out that does not have evidence to support, in fact have evidence against it but they still go about saying the same thing. That's what I was referring too. Like someone claiming bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply
@SID480 Context is to assume all opinions must be respected simply because someone holds them. Opinions should be looked at skeptically and the evidence that supports them before they are deemed respectable. I am not evading. I was talkin about any idea that people spit out that does not have evidence to support, in fact have evidence against it but they still go about saying the same thing. That's what I was referring too. Like someone claiming bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply
@moety2 Before we move any further. Can you clarify what "factual wrong" statement are you referring to? Your response seems a little bit ambiguous on that regard.
@SID480 Only if you clarify what you consider bigotry about saying "Let's be real, all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed" using the FULL sentence “UNDER THE WEIGHT OF REALITY” not quote mining which is an well known deceptive tactic that does not give the full picture. Maybe because I used the word crushed lol. If you consider that bigotry or try to give some nonsensical explanation as to why it is, which I don't put past you, then we have nothing to talk about.
the problem with ron christie is he is the type that believes what ever the government says believes everyone is honest. also he does not listen to the point being made.
He believes what ever the government says, thinks everyone's honest? No, no. That describes the liberal mentality. The Obama kiss-up who wants the government to make people dependent on it.
@MyTotalRemedy my point is that he buys the government propaganda that america is the greatest everything , number 1 in everything and thats just not the truth i love this country and its broken and needs to be fixed. i only support obama on about half the things he has done, but the republicans do not propose any valid solutions. a republican response to anything is the opposite of what obama says.
@StonewallJackson26 Those morons in the audience know nothing about politics. They always clap anytime a liberal says something. They're a bunch of fucking sheep.
@StonewallJackson26 Those morons in the audience know nothing about politics. They always clap anytime a liberal says something. They're a bunch of fucking sheep.
Ron Christie tried to make an articulate point, and they just started barking and got defensive. There's nothing impressive about anything West said in this segment. Greatest Maher show moment?? Hardly.
@smo3715 What articulate point? "Equality of opportunity, not outcome" is ridiculous, and is easily proven so: An America where people "deserve what they get based on their own efforts" is logically a nation which allows people like myself (born with disabilities that severely impair my ability to EVER work) to wither and die. No remorse and no sympathy outside of religious charities, who are allowed to discriminate against whomever they please because of the First Amendment.
What republicans call demonizing sucessfull people I call glorifying criminals. These wall street crooks neither invent, inovate nor create anything- and have found a way to legitimize their criminal activities, while real working americans stuggle in an economy that these crooks destabilized. They don't know what real work is if it bit them in the ass.
I agree - everybody (or almost everybody) is given an equal chance and it's about what you make of it. You can't expect to lay around and then ask why that guy on Wall Street who studied till he was 27 and works 8 am to 3 am (yes 19 hours) a day including weekends is getting more than you. Not to mention that its economics - you want the best you better pay the most.
Cornel West is so fluent with his thoughts. He can handle all the curve ball perspectives people throw at him because he's so educated about all the alternatives to the points he believes in.
A single mother that works 3 part time jobs because of the 30 years of class warefare on labour works a million times harder then the assholes on wall street. Don't give me this shit that people are poor because they are lazy.
Cornel West is too smart for this fool... Cornel West has lead the Occupy wallstreet movement acrost the world for days, hes gone to jail for working ordinary people , he fights for black people... Everyone of the 99% of poor honest working people owes there respect to Dr Cornel West... ;)
Cornel West never demonized anyone. However, a ton of stupid people in the occupy movements have misinterpreted his message (and the general message) and gone ahead and done just that. You can go ahead and demonize those who have created a system where the financial services industry can make the government any way they want. You should NOT say "the 1%" as if all business owners or hedge fund people are evil.
CEOs are pocketing hundreds of times more dough than the people working under them, those that actually do WORK. Thus in my book, they deserve to be demonized.
Amen Brother West!!!!!!! Cristie, on autopilot, spits out his vapid Insults and Conservative Cliches while West inspires us all with his impassioned wisdom and specific insight
I don't agree with everything Cornell West says, but Ron Christie is a straight up dumbass. The OWS protesters are the real conservatives because they support the rule of law and not crony capitalism like the Tea Party who vote against their own economic interests.
"We have been given [...] equal opportunity", really? If he seriously believe these words he's speaking it's nothing short of insane that he's been a presidential strategist. That MUST be lobby-talk, or that guy is living in a fairy tale. Scary stuff...
Christie: "The fabric that has held this country together for over 200 years is that we're American citizens, not that you're rich or you're poor, not that you're black or you're white."
Right, except that there are rich people BECAUSE there are poor people.
Did this fool just evoke the harmony (!?) that existed/exists between American blacks & whites as a model for the harmony that he thinks ought to exist between rich and poor? I guess he thinks the civil rights movement was a waste of time...
How can someone whose ancestors were slaves pretend to be so appalled at the notion that a system can be brutally unjust and unfair? I also love "conservatives" acting appalled at this notion of "pitting Americans against each other." Getting Americans to hate each other is Republican bread & butter! "It's the evil gays/immigrants/socialists/unions who are to blame for all of your problems!"
This was absolutely amazing I really appreciated the dialogue but am I the only one who finds it hilarious that two big nerds looked like they were about to fight. Harvard and Princeton keepin it gangsta!!!! lol
@Seancarter2010 Yeah, I know what you mean. Kinda funny. OK, very funny... But maybe it's because as we get a couple decades past our high school years "the nerds" are the people who have actually pursued their passions, actually care deeply about what they do and the world around them, enough to fight over it...
While the non-nerds are, shall we say, less dynamic
When I listen to Pro. Cornel West it makes me want to go back to university and continue my education in the field of education. This man and other black educators are so smart they make people like Ron look like 2 cents. You go Pro. West :-)
Great clip! Amen, Brother West! Is Ron Christie (whoever that is) intentionally doing an over-the-top impersonation of a nerdy, white asshole? Just curious.
@ChiefNakedButt: He always acts like that. As much as I hate to perpetuate the negative stereotype of the a black man acting "white" he does go out of his way to maintain the classic "I'm a conservative first and black in color only second" image.
that was disappointing
qiqimaster 4 hours ago
if you argue with cornell west you are an idiot
mxweinstein 5 hours ago
Ron Christie is such a delusional little shit.
tatsujinMasurao 14 hours ago 3
where does that Dude on the right live?m Who is WE? its him .. then everyone else. told on himself.
djstewart2012 14 hours ago
You can call 'corporate greed' all you want, but it's the continuous climb up the ladder. Are we to act like the ladder never stops? And are we too pretend we don't envy that high ladder? West is trying to get all gangsta and he's full of shit, selling his books and shit. Yeah, give your life when you have a gun at your head, not selling books on a talk show.
Nem33 1 day ago 3
I didn't know cornel west was gangsta like that on debating! lol!!!
jackdaman80 1 day ago
Cornels boy had to hold him back, lol
floiran 1 day ago
Who is the nodding clown to the left of the Dr.? Creepy fucker.
DrOctopusBJJ 2 days ago
@DrOctopusBJJ HIs name escapes me for a moment. But he's a journalist. Made famous for his work in Iraq and Afghanistan. The guy is actually pretty awesome.
tatsujinMasurao 14 hours ago
Haha I love crazy afro black guy I have seen him everywhere... He reminds me of my African American studies teacher.
talkindurinthemovie 2 days ago
It's a good thing the doctor is so loud. Who wants to listen to someone who worked with and for George W. Bush.
LordYaoi 2 days ago
This Uncle Tom makes Ron Paul look bad.
mcmelvincar 3 days ago
@mcmelvincar
ironically he has a book called "acting white".
I would trust this Ron mother fucker.
noticed that Cornel made all the moves in the clip.
Even shaking hands.
You can tell Cornel is the more sincere one
lopytube 2 days ago
Am I wrong in thinking that nearly every black man IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY (needed to sress that) is a fucking moron? I mean my only source of information are shows like this and it might be the case that they are only inviting idiots on. But for fucks sake, to be a black republican sounds to me like being a Jewish neonazi.
Prka01 4 days ago
Lol, I like the drunk guy.
Kajintoz 5 days ago
American citizens don't even own their names.... What's it matter that we are citizens, when we've so few rights?
WorthlessLoser8 5 days ago
@WorthlessLoser8 Anybody can be called whatever they wish.
AveragePope 5 days ago
All maher does is insult people....that shows how ignorant he is.
darkfur35 5 days ago
In reality, the Occupiers and the Tea Party people have discust over generally the same issue: Corporatism. When wall street execs abuse the tax payer bail outs by giving themselves big bonuses, the Occupiers rally against it. When the gov't gives tax payer money to selected corporations, the Tea Party people rally against it. I've heard both of those movements DEMONIZED by many and realized that it's another thing being used to keep people divided. The U.S. Constitution is what keeps us UNITED.
uturn2788 6 days ago
Ron Christie... Perfect example of the self deluded elitist idiot. Wonder if he can do any better than Bush with pronouncing the word.... Nu...Cleeeeee...Aaaarrrrr.
kahtuh 6 days ago
that other black guy is the dumbass.
bigbullbk 6 days ago
@bigbullbk yeah he is REALLY
bulletshotfromgun 7 hours ago
Cornel West kicks butt!
OneGoodMojo 1 week ago
I have tickets to see this West guy tonight... Not a hundred percent if I'm going to go see him.
Judothrow5 1 week ago
Demonizing the Poor... ? is that what Mr. Chirstie's point is?
norvman 1 week ago
Ron Chirstie... like all Conservative Republicans... Just Can't Handle the Truth!!!
norvman 1 week ago
They were all far too soft on that repellent piece of filth Ron Christie.
SimonHHH 1 week ago
Did anyone else see the "da fuck else i need to say" face @ 0:57
Biggestmutemathfan 2 weeks ago 10
Sickem CW!
slooash 2 weeks ago
Good for you Mr Christie.
patteel 2 weeks ago
Cornel West has it right, it's the oligarchs that are rigging the system against us.
OHMAHGAA 2 weeks ago
West is right. Most average Americans don't demonize the wealthy. We don't begrudge them their success. We demonize GREED! If I have to pay 30% in taxes on my measly middle class income, they should have to pay 30% on their ridiculously huge income. Why is this so hard for corporate moguls to understand?
tra1215 2 weeks ago 25
Look how Bill and Ron are dressed the same.
That seems to add an air of Maher to the weasel Ron.
BenReece101 2 weeks ago
@Seanjkbs: I'm whiter than Ron Christie and I'm Chinese
verve92 2 weeks ago
@verve92 lol
TheSonjaxfactor 2 weeks ago
It's easy to spout and believe Ron's "fabric" line, if you're on the rich end of that statement. It's not about money, we're all in this together guys, we're American.
brunolives 3 weeks ago
@brunolives Yeah but when 47% of Americans got their heads up their asses, it can be hard to unite the nation.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
Cornel West doesn't know how to debate he should shut up and let the other person talk for once. what an asshole.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 What the hell are you talking about, fool. West is giving him time for Christie's talking points. You need to pay attention.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@SID480 What are you talking about, fool. West is giving Christie enough time for his talking points. You need to learn how to pay attention.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify yeah, then interrupts him 1 second later, literally, over and over again.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 To correct him! I mean at least he can get his words in edgewise.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify if that were indeed the case, "to correct him", then he would be a bigot now, would he not?
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 WTF! They're both black! What are you talking about?
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify so, you are saying that black people, just because they are black, cannot be bigots, that is so pejorative from your part, sir.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 You're missing the point. Niether of them are bigots, they have political differences.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify Yes, and the fact that Cornel West wants to "correct" people with political views different from his own, makes him a bigot
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 You obviously don't know the meaning of the word bigot. Its usage refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, nationality, language, sexual orientation, and age. I was using correct in a humerous sense. While they have differing views, they don't hate each other Oh and at the end of this, they shook hands so I don't know what your talking about. Next time, study words before you use them, fool. Later loser!
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify that which you defined is a hostile person or a chauvinist to some extent , "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs". West is so obstinate with his own beliefs that he can not stand listening to someone with an opinion different from his and therefore interrupts him. "study words before you use them... Later loser!"
SID480 3 weeks ago
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Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
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@SID480 If that's the b.s. opinion you got to tell yourself parrot. Now piss off.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
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@Blackman1000ify The fact that I am talking with someone who cannot come up with a proper argument in a RESPECTFUL way, but rather spouts: "If that's the b.s. opinion you got to tell yourself parrot. Now piss off.", tells me that I am dealing with a not very intelligent person who is not worth my time. What a shame!
SID480 3 weeks ago
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This is video perfectly demonstrates the American liberal mindset today: proclaim that you're tolerant of other views from the rooftops but when someone disagrees, bark at them before they complete their sentence and call them a bigot, idiot, ignorant, etc. And clap/cheer whenever another liberal talks.
ThePhantom135 3 weeks ago 3
@ThePhantom135 And to further emphasize your point; look, your comment which disagrees to the majority liberal audience has been flagged as spam. That proofs how bigoted this liberal audience actually is.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 Yes, apparently my opinion isn't good enough to be shown.
ThePhantom135 3 weeks ago
@SID480 Or it could just be people are allergic to bullshit lol. If someone says something that is ohhh factual wrong, like 2+2=5 and people flag it as spam, they must be bigoted or they have no tolerance for nonsense. Let's be real, all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed under the weight of reality. Because it's not rejected with sunshine and flowers doesn't make it bigotry. The people who say it is such are babies and should go back to the playground.
moety2 3 weeks ago
@moety2 "Let's be real, all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed"... and that is not bigotry?. I rest my case.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 Can't make a case quote mining. I mean you could, but you would be dishonest. "all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed UNDER THE WEIGHT OF REALITY." Meaning if they can't or don't hold up, we move on and attempts to still debate bad ideas is a waste of time. If that fact doesn't come of nicely and is consider bigotry, then the problem is with the overly sensitive and they can either deal with it or go back to the sand box. I rest my case
moety2 3 weeks ago
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Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify lol This is just to sharpen my skills because as I am sure you are aware, the world is full of crazies and we just can't ignore them. Some of them can be reached. But it takes time. I just love how he labels bigotry on a disagreement because it has passion. These overly sensitive types, in my experience are always amusing to me and sometimes, wrongfully so, I push their crybaby buttons on purpose lol
moety2 2 weeks ago
@moety2 Yeah, but when you're dealing with a wuss who couldn't last 2 seconds in a DEBATE without labeling your response as bigotry, it could get tedious. Personally I think you won it by stating the obvious.
Blackman1000ify 2 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify agreed
moety2 2 weeks ago
@Blackman1000ify i see you got your pornography removed
SID480 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify well at least I don't shamefully delete all my comments, which in a way is admitting that you are wrong.
SID480 5 days ago
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Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
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@SID480 You again? I see you're still an ass and those were only three comments. Aren't you that guy who couldn't go a comment without labeling the other's bigotry? Its a debate, if you don't know what it is, look it up in the dictionary
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@SID480 Its tedious 2 argue against someone who can't prove their points like u. So I stopped commenting back because what u say isn't that important to me. If it still matters 2 u, I pity u.
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify hahahaha give me a break, who are you trying to convince with that. The real reason why you cannot comment is because you have nothing to say. BTW it is 4 comments you removed. and so what, "I only removed 3 comments" I wonder what those comments said that make you erase them. I is sad indeed. the only comments you left were those which didn't really say anything but insult. No sir, it is I who pity you because at the end of the day you are just someone who...
SID480 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify ...insult people in order to prove their point of view. "oh you call me a bigot" that your only argument which is not an argument. You say I can't prove my points, please specify which point you want me to prove and I see to it. You on the other hand have no point at all to prove. and you are bigoted because you are intolerant of other people opinions. CALLING YOU BIGOT, DOES NOT DISCREDIT MY ARGUMENT, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A BIGOT. cheers
SID480 5 days ago
@SID480 Dude, get a life. I don't care about what you have to say. You think West, moety2 and me are bigots because we don't share Christie or your beliefs. We have different opinions. West & Christie are aware of that in this video and me and moety2 are aware of it. The only guy who doesn't get it is u. I don't hate u at all for having a silly idea of what bigotry is but I really think you should consult a dictionary. If u ask me, you're the bigot because u can't accept that.
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify
About the other thread we had...
Yes. On the internet we have an opportunity to humanize the nword that we might not have so easily in face to face communications
WorthlessLoser8 5 days ago
@WorthlessLoser8 Fine, I'll give u a chance. Why do u use it? Wouldn't be easier to leave it alone then use it because some people won't share your view on it?
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify
I use it because censoring it feeds prejudicial stereotypes, because few know that the word can mean human and does to many, because humanizing it can't be done without using it and because people can change over time... There are many hurtful words, but only this word has the power to heal itself and to be used to heal additional terms...
Anyway, i also tell people about it in person, so what i said was somewhat misleading here... Take care bro.
WorthlessLoser8 5 days ago
@WorthlessLoser8 Okay, if you say so. But be careful, that word is still offensive & not every single person will accept your view on it. Take care & watch your back when using it.
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@Blackman1000ify
Will do.
And, help spread the word, so no one who doesn't want to fight doesn't make a mistake...
:) Peace my friend.
WorthlessLoser8 5 days ago
@WorthlessLoser8 Will do buddy. Peace to you. :)
Blackman1000ify 5 days ago
@moety2 seems to me you are arrogant and have no respect for other people's opinions. I for once have never insulted you personally only disagreed. That is what is to be a good debater. and probably I would have misread your comment if it wasn't so badly articulated, but then so what, what ideas are the ones you are referring to that you say lacks truth. you are saying something without saying anything, be more specific. Please reflect on that.
SID480 5 days ago
@SID480 You have a naive perspective. Opinions must be respectable in order to respect them. Some people have the opinion that they should have slaves or that women should be treated less then men. Am I suppose to respect those opinions? Of course not. Would you? I have not insulted you, called you names etc. Honestly speaking, you are a bit to sensitive and quick to call something bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply. And I told you explain how my comments are bigoted first
moety2 5 days ago
@moety2 you are completely bringing the matter out of context, we are not talking about slavery or chauvinism so please don't try and evade the subject. You are really evading the question, what ideas are the ones you are referring to that you say lacks truth? (THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND), and as I told the other guy, "CALLING YOU BIGOT, DOES NOT DISCREDIT MY ARGUMENT, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE A BIGOT" so stop using that argument to avoid giving real responses.
SID480 5 days ago
@SID480 Context is to assume all opinions must be respected simply because someone holds them. Opinions should be looked at skeptically and the evidence that supports them before they are deemed respectable. I am not evading. I was talkin about any idea that people spit out that does not have evidence to support, in fact have evidence against it but they still go about saying the same thing. That's what I was referring too. Like someone claiming bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply
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@SID480 Context is to assume all opinions must be respected simply because someone holds them. Opinions should be looked at skeptically and the evidence that supports them before they are deemed respectable. I am not evading. I was talkin about any idea that people spit out that does not have evidence to support, in fact have evidence against it but they still go about saying the same thing. That's what I was referring too. Like someone claiming bigotry when it clearly doesn't apply
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@moety2 Dude you're wasting your time. You are talking to a crazy person.
Blackman1000ify 3 weeks ago
@moety2 Before we move any further. Can you clarify what "factual wrong" statement are you referring to? Your response seems a little bit ambiguous on that regard.
SID480 3 weeks ago
@SID480 Only if you clarify what you consider bigotry about saying "Let's be real, all opinions are not equal and the bad ones should be crushed" using the FULL sentence “UNDER THE WEIGHT OF REALITY” not quote mining which is an well known deceptive tactic that does not give the full picture. Maybe because I used the word crushed lol. If you consider that bigotry or try to give some nonsensical explanation as to why it is, which I don't put past you, then we have nothing to talk about.
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ThePhantom135 3 weeks ago
Christie sounds just like the black cop in the "Banana in the tailpipe" scene from "Beverly Hills Cop" I lost it the moment he opened his mouth...
deetjay1 4 weeks ago
the problem with ron christie is he is the type that believes what ever the government says believes everyone is honest. also he does not listen to the point being made.
mike2005gto 1 month ago
@mike2005gto
He believes what ever the government says, thinks everyone's honest? No, no. That describes the liberal mentality. The Obama kiss-up who wants the government to make people dependent on it.
MyTotalRemedy 1 week ago
@MyTotalRemedy my point is that he buys the government propaganda that america is the greatest everything , number 1 in everything and thats just not the truth i love this country and its broken and needs to be fixed. i only support obama on about half the things he has done, but the republicans do not propose any valid solutions. a republican response to anything is the opposite of what obama says.
mike2005gto 1 week ago
I see 1 idiot and 98 genius
74blove 1 month ago
Christie makes one comment to the contrary and these "tolerant" Liberals jump on him before he can finish his sentence. Assholes!
StonewallJackson26 1 month ago
@StonewallJackson26
They did jump on him and that's unfortunate. I see both sides of the argument, but that doesn't help to find a solution :/
lavinder11 1 month ago
@lavinder11 I just love all the sycophants in the audience. Clapping after every Liberal finishes a sentence.
StonewallJackson26 1 month ago
@StonewallJackson26 Those morons in the audience know nothing about politics. They always clap anytime a liberal says something. They're a bunch of fucking sheep.
kth10chi 3 weeks ago 2
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@StonewallJackson26 Those morons in the audience know nothing about politics. They always clap anytime a liberal says something. They're a bunch of fucking sheep.
kth10chi 3 weeks ago
Ron Christie tried to make an articulate point, and they just started barking and got defensive. There's nothing impressive about anything West said in this segment. Greatest Maher show moment?? Hardly.
smo3715 1 month ago
@smo3715 What articulate point? "Equality of opportunity, not outcome" is ridiculous, and is easily proven so: An America where people "deserve what they get based on their own efforts" is logically a nation which allows people like myself (born with disabilities that severely impair my ability to EVER work) to wither and die. No remorse and no sympathy outside of religious charities, who are allowed to discriminate against whomever they please because of the First Amendment.
MendrolRPG 3 weeks ago
What republicans call demonizing sucessfull people I call glorifying criminals. These wall street crooks neither invent, inovate nor create anything- and have found a way to legitimize their criminal activities, while real working americans stuggle in an economy that these crooks destabilized. They don't know what real work is if it bit them in the ass.
TheSololobo 1 month ago
I think the role of Gov. is to clear a path for every citizen to have the right to attain his dream and that is it. The rest is all on you.
TheSololobo 1 month ago
West is a gangsta. Everything about him i respect.
GeneralGhost 1 month ago
who the fuck is this Ron Christie guy and where did I put my gun?
MsDDiddy 1 month ago
I agree - everybody (or almost everybody) is given an equal chance and it's about what you make of it. You can't expect to lay around and then ask why that guy on Wall Street who studied till he was 27 and works 8 am to 3 am (yes 19 hours) a day including weekends is getting more than you. Not to mention that its economics - you want the best you better pay the most.
kotapaka 1 month ago
Christie is such a tool.even sounds like it.
soilworker85 1 month ago
Among all the trash and garble of Youtube, a diamond.
burnrider2001 1 month ago
Cornell West and Michael Ware would make the most adorable gay couple ever.
Ibiku456 1 month ago
Haha...Ron Christie is a joke, a clown, a phib. Dr. West is my intellectual role model.
drumma4lyfe06 2 months ago
Cornel West is so fluent with his thoughts. He can handle all the curve ball perspectives people throw at him because he's so educated about all the alternatives to the points he believes in.
smccull5 2 months ago 27
A single mother that works 3 part time jobs because of the 30 years of class warefare on labour works a million times harder then the assholes on wall street. Don't give me this shit that people are poor because they are lazy.
Xwowplaya 2 months ago 4
Cornel West is too smart for this fool... Cornel West has lead the Occupy wallstreet movement acrost the world for days, hes gone to jail for working ordinary people , he fights for black people... Everyone of the 99% of poor honest working people owes there respect to Dr Cornel West... ;)
mywotzone 2 months ago 5
How can a man be so blind? A black man at that. Speaking of Ron, of course
dreamcatchertwice 2 months ago
Class warfare is the 1% having half the wealth of this country.
jezmundberserker 2 months ago
Ron Christie is what we call a house negro, or Uncle Tom
Seanjkbs 2 months ago 33
@Seanjkbs EXACTLY...AND SPEAKS LIKE A GAY INTELLECTUAL...THAT DATES WHITE MEN!!!
SuperBullaMan 2 weeks ago 3
@Seanjkbs Came here to post this
fyadcorp 1 week ago
New Rule for Ron Christie: Don't try to follow Professor West...you will get monkey stomped.
jajones0311 2 months ago
Cornel West never demonized anyone. However, a ton of stupid people in the occupy movements have misinterpreted his message (and the general message) and gone ahead and done just that. You can go ahead and demonize those who have created a system where the financial services industry can make the government any way they want. You should NOT say "the 1%" as if all business owners or hedge fund people are evil.
Deej1188 3 months ago
Ron Christie is such a penis.
willia3r 3 months ago 4
ron christie is so dumb and a dickhead
loccoptic 3 months ago
CEOs are pocketing hundreds of times more dough than the people working under them, those that actually do WORK. Thus in my book, they deserve to be demonized.
guyNbluejeans 3 months ago
Amen Brother West!!!!!!! Cristie, on autopilot, spits out his vapid Insults and Conservative Cliches while West inspires us all with his impassioned wisdom and specific insight
NastasyaFilippovna81 3 months ago
"Possibly the finest moment on any Real Time episode" AGREED!
rajab333 3 months ago 3
That dude looked scared as shit when they were shaking hands at the end lol! what a pussy!
Herbsmoke1210 3 months ago
If anyone else wondered whatever happened to Carlton Banks,
well wonder no more.
izaccy 3 months ago
@izaccy Carlton Banks had swag. Ron doesn't.
HybridD91 3 months ago
Ron Christie repeatedly ignored Dr Cornell West's point.
VikTalks 3 months ago
Ron Cristie is as bad of a token black guy as Herman Cain
ViperRob42 3 months ago
I don't agree with everything Cornell West says, but Ron Christie is a straight up dumbass. The OWS protesters are the real conservatives because they support the rule of law and not crony capitalism like the Tea Party who vote against their own economic interests.
butchermachine 3 months ago 5
Ron Christie has a punchable face.
jake94 3 months ago 5
Go Cornel!
dmagwaza 3 months ago
"We have been given [...] equal opportunity", really? If he seriously believe these words he's speaking it's nothing short of insane that he's been a presidential strategist. That MUST be lobby-talk, or that guy is living in a fairy tale. Scary stuff...
ponkasss 3 months ago
at 1:27. Fucking love Cornel West. The vibe between him & that aussie dude who investigated blackwater etc. is so golden.
TorontoLarrivee 3 months ago 2
looool :)
loccoptic 3 months ago
That sort of arrogance and conceited tone didn't sit well with Prof. West (aka Professor Badass).
Little weasel came this close >< from receiving a free dental service. That was a "boy, I would fuck you up" expression from our professor. :)
Ultra80s 3 months ago
So the Civil war was class warfare?
aweyeah12354 3 months ago
Ron Christie was brainwashed by greedy white men. He is their little bitch.
Gloverlove 3 months ago 3
Christie: "The fabric that has held this country together for over 200 years is that we're American citizens, not that you're rich or you're poor, not that you're black or you're white."
Right, except that there are rich people BECAUSE there are poor people.
Did this fool just evoke the harmony (!?) that existed/exists between American blacks & whites as a model for the harmony that he thinks ought to exist between rich and poor? I guess he thinks the civil rights movement was a waste of time...
zammmerjammer 3 months ago 5
@zammmerjammer He also seems to have forgotten about slavery
Joshua001A 3 months ago
@Joshua001A
And Jim Crow apparently. I have to wonder what sort of history book has Ron Christie been getting his information on American history?
willia3r 3 months ago
How can someone whose ancestors were slaves pretend to be so appalled at the notion that a system can be brutally unjust and unfair? I also love "conservatives" acting appalled at this notion of "pitting Americans against each other." Getting Americans to hate each other is Republican bread & butter! "It's the evil gays/immigrants/socialists/unions who are to blame for all of your problems!"
zammmerjammer 3 months ago 4
lol that lady is just sitting there laughing
youwatch2muchtv 3 months ago
"People don't go to jail for sound bites !" - Cornel West is THE GREATEST.
ezekielthemack 3 months ago 2
"It's not that we hate oligarchs on Wall Street; we hate oligarchy" -- Dr. Cornell West
EmperorKagato 3 months ago
Go for Gold Dr. West!!! I love Aziz Ansari!!!
MrSgbunny 3 months ago
HAHHAHA, OMG, Dr. West was ready to jump over the table and beat up Christie. Look at Bill when they shake hands, he looks a little worried.
Stingerbillion 3 months ago
Ron Christie is a fool. Across the table is a real smart black man.
this guy is a politically correct dummy.
Slash417 3 months ago 4
This is no sound bite! People don't go to jail for sound bites!!
-Cornel West
That was so fucking gangsta! He looked like he was ready to throw down. Fuck I LOVE DR. CORNEL WEST!! FTW!!
omgffs1310 3 months ago 5
This was absolutely amazing I really appreciated the dialogue but am I the only one who finds it hilarious that two big nerds looked like they were about to fight. Harvard and Princeton keepin it gangsta!!!! lol
Seancarter2010 3 months ago 4
@Seancarter2010 Yeah, I know what you mean. Kinda funny. OK, very funny... But maybe it's because as we get a couple decades past our high school years "the nerds" are the people who have actually pursued their passions, actually care deeply about what they do and the world around them, enough to fight over it...
While the non-nerds are, shall we say, less dynamic
just a thought
senjahcore 3 months ago
How long did it take Christie to get that white accent down?
aegisforex 3 months ago
@aegisforex When you're the house negro I'm sure it didn't take long...what a douchebag that guy is...
fatgrl1935 2 months ago
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Cornell West wiped this sell-out off the stage later on. I swear, the good professor almost threw a punch in the process! classic!
"you a sell out but i aint buyin"
smilz32 3 months ago
Ron Christie is a tool lol.
TheKelson420 3 months ago 43
my bad I mean Dr, Cornel West...
carad78 3 months ago
When I listen to Pro. Cornel West it makes me want to go back to university and continue my education in the field of education. This man and other black educators are so smart they make people like Ron look like 2 cents. You go Pro. West :-)
carad78 3 months ago 3
This was a GREAT episode! I laughed my ass off. :D
eltrut96 3 months ago
Great clip! Amen, Brother West! Is Ron Christie (whoever that is) intentionally doing an over-the-top impersonation of a nerdy, white asshole? Just curious.
ChiefNakedButt 3 months ago 2
@ChiefNakedButt nope, thats just who mamma raised.
befon 3 months ago
@ChiefNakedButt: He always acts like that. As much as I hate to perpetuate the negative stereotype of the a black man acting "white" he does go out of his way to maintain the classic "I'm a conservative first and black in color only second" image.
ThexDynastxQueen 3 months ago 2
I so do love Professor West. Every time he speaks i either learn something new or have my faith in mankind reaffirmed if only for a little while.
jinto1980 3 months ago 52
@jinto1980 Amen to that broth
Renamandul 1 month ago
@jinto1980 haha, are you kidding?
StonewallJackson26 1 month ago