Paul Craig Roberts on Alex Jones Tv"No Change"4/4

[tdebat]

AMERICA DESTROYED BY OWN GOVERNMENT

[volkan63]

All this is all good but... why hide the words and just say elitist or coorporations, why not just say Masons because they are the ones that are corrupting everything. The Freemasons, what about that Alex.

[DominoJones]

Alex: If your going to bankrupt a country, drive the majority of people into poverty, then arnt you closer to being able to subject these same people to the conditions of slavery... Destroying the dollar ushers in a new North American 'Union' dollar after we the public have been totally looted... new dollar, new rules, increased government to aid/control workers in a new depression... this is the basis that i've gathered over the past few weeks,.. and thats not even the sinister everyday shit...

[kermitcintronsucks]

Violent Revolution is the only answer. Just like our founding fathers did.

[alby711]

Im too poor to afford a gun but I sure do hope that a local militia will arm me because I will do whatever it takes to defend OUR rights.

[chris7777777777777]

The CIA trained and funded Bin Laden when THEY were fighting against Russia you stupid fuck! The CIA funded Saddam when they were fighting our greater enemy, Iran. Are you a fucking idiot? Do you think that we funded them with the foreknowledge that they would one day 25 years later attack us?? WOW, you the best after game quarterback Ive ever heard. Have you ever heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" It's strategic warfare!! It's Axis and Allies, Chess, strategy. Use your brain.

[chris7777777777777]

The CIA trained and funded Bin Laden when THEY were fighting against Russian you stupid fuck! The CIA funded when they were fighting our greater enemy, Iran. Are you a fucking idiot? Do you think that we funded them with the foreknowledge that they would one day 25 years later attack us?? WOW, you the best after game quarterback Ive ever heard. Have you ever heard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" It's strategic warfare!! It's Axis and Allies, Chess, strategy. Use your brain. "so now what?"

[jonah70757]

Weimar did not have possibly the most powerful military in the world. A desperate Gov controlled by desperate people is capable of doing some very bad things.

[jonah70757]

The policies are bad in the long term which to me implies a very short term decisive move is going to be made for the whole shooting match and yes they are arrogant! They disgust me.

[chris7777777777777]

The CIA was tracking Saddam and Bin Laden and the Clinton Administration fuck them over with an inner investigation which slow down the efforts, so what do you expect them to do, carry on protecting america, how can you when your hands are tied?!

Have you ever seen the movie Invasion of the body snatchers? that what I think when I hear all these conspiracy theories. Science Fiction.

[chris7777777777777]

I know someone who works in concert with the CIA, he sits in on intelligence briefings occassionally and did you know that the CIA is predominantly Republican and I have REASON to believe that if Obama implements their changes and tries to fuck over the CIA that they will over look some shit like they over looked 9/11. I also have reason to believe that the CIA stops 3 major events a week and noone give a shit about the sacrifices they make, all they say is CIA is evil, not everyone there is.

[chris7777777777777]

What does it matter, according to you God doesn't exist. So we are to live by YOUR moral code? If there is no God, then I believe I'll set up my own moral code and laws.

[dtr76]

Those who are inebriated with power are the ones who want you to live by their moral code and laws. I trust the intentions of a concerned citizen more than a man who is full of his himself by virtue of his office. Power corrupts, only rarely can those who exercise for any length of time prove this incorrect. Do you honestly think Skull and Bones Bush is really Christian? Or these politicians sleeping with gay prostitutes while harping about Christian values? They just dupe dumb asses like you.

[chris7777777777777]

So then all knowing one, whos moral code should I live by? You know what, you sound like you have class envy, Power currupts 100% of the time. what should we do, eliminate government? So I should trust you, since you intend well? Are you telling me that if you ever had the opportunity to join the Skull&Bones, the most powerful fraturnity in the world, you wouldn't do it? Secret Societies have their purpose, their clubs. I rather the skull and bones than some secret muslim society be in power.

[chris7777777777777]

HAHA, you think i should be worried about it? I can't wait for it to happen, I joined the National Guard so I can be apart of it, who do you think will make sure you don't run around after curfew? ME! I am looking forward for a NWO, the collapse of america, what more can I say? I don't CARE.

[dtr76]

Finally he let his colors fly. You are a product of media assembly line manufacture, whose perspectives are bound solely to his generation. If you would understand history and the meaning of the constitution, if you would understand that patriotism stems from patrios, of one's fathers you would seek to carry on the legacy of your ancestors, not be a sycophant who believes in all of the threats made up to distract the public from the duties of the vigilant and thinking citizen.

[dtr76]

Get a job? I don't have a problem with that. For you see the human brain is well capable of harnessing knowledge specific to tasks required by a particular job, and at the same time being aware of political developments and history. The problem with too many Americans is that that extra space is used to memorize useless sports statistics and crap. Its ok Chrissy, be a mindless wage-slave, and do your job like a good ole boy. At the weekend there is something comforting: panem et circenses!

[chris7777777777777]

I hate sports, lol. theres nothing you can do about it. Since this country has elected Obama, I dont care about it anymore.

Washington Post: Nov, 8th 2008

President-elect Barack Obama stepped carefully yesterday when he was asked about the unusual letter of congratulations that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent him -- the first time an Iranian leader has congratulated the victor of a U.S. presidential election since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

Thank you democrats!!!

[daniel987878]

Your not looking forward to starving to death when the system collapses.

[chris7777777777777]

If the government implements the RDFI chip are you going to take it?

[xesiria]

I feel ya,

i do believe something is going down and allot of in not all Alex Jones talks about is true. There is a big plan or an ideal for global take over and how the British Empire and there Banksters and with there corporations hate this country and found both side and start wars have agendas.

but, the divide and conquer is felt when the last thing is said is a plug for money or to sell some with something that is losing value every day.

[themios72]

lol country run down by a bunch of zionist jews

[daniel987878]

America is getting destroyed. The thing is the empire is going to get bigger because this crisis will drag the whole world under. At this point the international governemental institutions will take over. I think its key to understand the empire is not American but global and in the final phase all nations get brought under into submision.

[AntiBullshitCrusader]

Such radio programs are certainly interesting and pertinent.

[xesiria]

lmao.. everyone is saying everything is going to hell in a hand basket and real hard time ahead of us but, buy my book!!!

[chris7777777777777]

haha, isn't that funny..The Conspiracy is a conspiracy, it's good money and an answer to those who seeks "("("real answers")")" they don't believe anyone and then end up believing something, something different! something that sound like a science fiction movie they liked. They feel like they are in the know or that they see things plainly, Even I sometimes like to hear it because it sounds cool, BUT THEY HAVE NO REAL PROOF TO ANYTHING.

[daniel987878]

Wtf? How much proof do you need?

[chris7777777777777]

A real solid case.

[daniel987878]

There is heaps of evidence. Look at Tragedy and hope by Quigley for example. The main thing also is that this agenda needs to be as secret as possible. Although its impossible to keep a secret there is ample evidence. The best evidence is looking at the wolr around you though. You can see there exists a handful of banks, media companies and industrila corporations that control everything. Alongside a handful of international organisations like the IMF and UN they will control everyhting.

[chris7777777777777]

In other words. YOU. YOU can't do anything about it.

[daniel987878]

The people can take control as long as enough people become aware and active.

[chris7777777777777]

take control how? and no starving to death is something i wont do, i'll cannibalize before that happens. lol

[daniel987878]

Well for example if enough awareness comes about then people stop following orders to their own peril. Like if people knew why the were going to Iraq they wouldnt have gone. If enough people put pressure on the congress they will have to respond unless they put their lives in danger. Imagine their own insiders protecting them catch on to the elite. They would have to stop fucking around.

[chris7777777777777]

Oh believe me when my time is up im getting out of the military, im just doing it for the money, it's the best job now that the economy is collapsing. The only way to stop this global dominance crap that these guys are talking about is to have another civil war, and hey, I'll join that. Im join the Savage Nation political party anyway, fuck the republicans, their getting weak, they use to stand for small government, not anymore.

[daniel987878]

I agree with you there. But in the meanwhile we need to make more people aware of the agenda so we can get the numbers up.

[chris7777777777777]

I just cant wait util I go to Iraq and hurry up and get back, thats all I care about right now. Im not worried about it, I just need the money BAD.

[daniel987878]

Dont worry "change" has come to America. All the wars are over.

[chris7777777777777]

Are you serious? It's not over yet, it dont matter who is in office.

[daniel987878]

I was being sarcastic.

[chris7777777777777]

I was about to say, ha.

[daniel987878]

I was about to say, duh.

[dtr76]

Blah blah blah blah I can't hear you, I don't want to hear you, America is great! Everything will be fine as long as there is no racism, we will be just supee. I believe in change!

You illusionist fool...

[chris7777777777777]

you must be an Obama supporter, well, YOUR NOT GOING TO GET THE CHANGE YOU WANT!

[dtr76]

That you did not register my sarcastic reference to Obama's campaign slogan only demonstrates the limited functionality of your grey matter. McCain, Obama, Republican or Democrat, they collude among others with other groups such as large investment banks, the Fed, corporations and consortiums to screw the people they rule. But hey, the wholesome and comprehensive information provided by the corporate controlled media should manage maintain a nice cloud of relative ignorance around your head.

[chris7777777777777]

And........You think you are smart because you stay up to speed on you conspiracy talking points? What a loser! You know you can't get a job with that kind of knowledge? You are wasting you Grey matter on nonsensical bull shit, I don't care what the FED, the corporate controlled Media is doing! someone has got to control it. If it isn't the people controlling it now, it would be someone else. this conspiracy is just a sub-sub interest to me not that important for living a real life.

[xesiria]

There is proof there is overwhelming proof not only in books and in history but eyewithness.

[chris7777777777777]

The only crap I hear is that a bunch of JEWs are ruining the world, to me sounds like a bunch of Jew hatting.

[xesiria]

no not really Sir. and if so i don't hear it that way and if that is what is really being said Sir or applied? Everyone is invalid not only Jews or Italians or French, Greeks, Iris, Africans, the list goes on and on but, the same could be said about good people as well. It is the sold out corrupted that belief with greed into a evil and don't care for anyone but, there selves and there loved one's no matter who gets hurt of killed.

It's all about them and to hell with the rest no matter what.

[chris7777777777777]

you can blame this survival of the fittest mentality, darwinistic mentality and doctrine that floods society and the educational system. According to them and most people, we are all animals and it doesn't matter.

[xesiria]

NO not really, more like survival of the riches. That brings on the other stuff but, not most people think that way at all. They just want to live in peace or protect there peace, family and land. The week rich use greed that know about lot more then they let on that dates back to pyramids and egyptians that were enlighten and goes back even further to the nephilim. That religion and belief is more true to the root for there agenda is there goal partly.

The goal is more then you can imagine.