Michael Jordan is not The Best Ever Bill Russell is the greatest of all time no t jordan Bill Russell get 11 champions jordan only 6 champions so Russell is the Best Ever
@magicjohnsonist : yeah not very impressive when you have like 8 HOFers helping you & there's only 8 team in the league that don't have as much talent probably like 2 or 3 HOFers on the other teams.
Silly logic. Bill Russell played in an era of about 8 teams. Jordan played with and against the greatest players and athletes in NBA historyr. Bill Russell played with individuals who dribbled the ball in front of them and wouldnt put the ball in there weak hand. Its just silliness to claim such a thing.
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These Hall of Fame Legends are only speaking what's in their hearts. They've seen a lot of basketball players over the past 7 or so decades and Michael Jordan has set himself above the rest as the BEST. The fact that they would put their own egos aside and openly admit this is very telling. Check out how Connie Hawkins attempts to liken Jordan's game to his own... LOL... No Connie, MJ's game is much, much more complete than yours ever was, but nice try though!
SERIOUS... MJ ITS THE BEST! BUT WE GOT RESPECT THE "TODAY PLAYERS" LIKE RONDO,D'ROSE,KOBE AND ETCETERA... JUST NOT RESPECT THAT HOMO CALLED DANNY AINGE! XD
its easy to call him the best ever. How can you not call him this way? year after year he was winning everything, absolutely everything scoring tittles, mvps, steal leader, defensive player of the league etc etc. People dont realize how dominant he was.
This clip should be at the beginning of every game just to remember god of b-ball
@elloelloello111 no that's not the reason why he didn't win championships every year. If you want to know the real reason why Jordan retired in 1998, watch Michael Jordan vs Jerry krause vs Phil Jackson demise of the bulls.
hall of famers said these things about MJ before he had won 4 more championships, 2 more league mvps (lets be honest the only reason he didnt win it every year his entire career is because they wanted a change) and a ton of other accolades. He is simply, the best.
some of the best players ever said these things...before he had won 4 more championships and a ton of other accolades, it really says a lot about him. GOAT.
Michael Jordan, NEO of the basketball matrix, by sheer power of will and supreme neurokinetics able to slow down everybody else on the court, stop the ball in mid air and dodge sentinels (defenders).
"That there had been even one Michael Jordan seemed in retrospect something of a genetic fluke, and the idea that anyone would arrive in so short a span of time and do what he did both on and off the court seemed highly unlikely." - David Halberstam (Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World He Made)
There will never be another. This disproves any aruments about Chamberlain, Russell, Dr. J, Kareem, Kobe, Lebron, Bird, or even Magic,. You have one this GREAT video. Elgin Baylor, the great Jerry west(NBA Logo) the imortal Bob cousy, magic johnson, Dr J, all saying they have never seen anything like MICHAEL JORDAN? That's because there had never been anything close to him, and there never will be again. Kobe is great for this generation, but he aint no Michael Jordan! lol
I give Jordan far more credit then Russell is because Russell played in a league which through most of his career consisted of 9 NBA Teams only. Only during the latter end of the 60's did the teams go up to a whopping 12.
Now that gives room for more stacked teams and the Celtics of the 60's were absolutely Stacked in contrast to all other teams, its not even close. Jordan won 6 Championships during the most defensive dominated era+his overall greater dominance puts him on another level.
@TrueSephiros Obviously MJ is the best as a player - but to think the league was not competitive you just don't know your history. Russell is the best team leader - and the guy you want on the court is you want rings. MJ is the most skilled overall player of all time, Chamberlain the most dominate.
MJ's greatness is that he knew (unlike Wilt) that it took a team. Russell was the best at getting the most from a team.
Look at who Russell was winning championships against...
1961-62, Bill Russell had an 18.9 scoring average, his career high. Chamberlain's individual accomplishments were mind-boggling: he won the scoring title by averaging 50.4 points, while the team-oriented Celtics didn't place anybody in the top 10. The NBA PLAYERS, voting for MVP, chose Russell over Chamberlain.
Jordan can't touch what Russell did, and Russell cant touch what Jordan did. Both, were the unquestioned best at doing what they did.
@ReformBarackObama lol at bringing up 1961 stats like they have any relevance in todays game...today's NBA is miles beyond the semi-pro pony league ball they were playing in 1961.
@phraedusthamusicdigr so you are saying that Jordan will soon be irrelevant because the league is growing?
How about you try looking at the teams he had to beat.
Giving Russell his due takes nothing from Jordan. Fact is Jordan would have won more if he played with Russell, cus if you played with Russell, your stats went up 20-35%.
Russell was a Lebron body and skills, with a Phil Jackson mind.
@ReformBarackObama Russell had Lebron's body? He was a 220 lb undersized CENTER. Lebron is 6 8 250 he could have played center in the 60's and handle the ball. God knows what kind of numbers Lebron or MJ in his prime would have put up in the 60's. Don't you think there was a reason players put up video game stats in the 60's? The competition and quality of players in the 60's was laughable...yes there were good players but as a whole the league was weak.
@reneperezz i think u misinterpretated, theres a difference between espn analysts talking like this about u and the greatest players in HISTORY talking like this about u! sure people say things similiar to this about kobe but the people saying it arent greats of the game. dont be mad though, mjs probably the only one the greats do talk about like that.
The all time greats know the TRUTH, Jordan is the one and only GOAT. The best to ever lace 'em up, dominated on BOTH ends, raised his game when it mattered most, had NO weaknesses, was the most competitive athlete ever, and simply mentally and physically beat everyone else down. GOAT. Believe that.
@utfanatic2000 ...no player is perfect,lebron should top mj...i already consider him better....no,mj didnt ALWAYS come through when it mattered....he did a lot though...i remember one game where jordan shot 5-19 and had 5 turnovers....that was game 6 of the 96 finals!!!...he played that badly and his team WON....bulls had many very good players....rodman had 11 offensive rbs in that game
@shaqpopcorn34 Definitely not sure about LBJ topping MJ. LBJ has yet to prove he is mentally tough enough. MJ would destroy LBJ mentally. MJ rose to the occasion. You had to go to the 96 finals, when Jordan was 33....LMAO....33! That shows you how dominant he was. His worst shooting finals is Kobe's AVERAGE! LMAO. LBJ needs to start making it past the 2nd round again before he's even in the conversation.
@shaqpopcorn34 How can LBJ be better? Jordan is better offensive player and defensive player than LBJ..You can nit pick bad Jordan games..You have to look at the career..Most of the time he came though with good game to great games when they needed him..
@MJisKingKobesuckss .....i consider lebron better offensively and defensively.....offensively?....lebron is 3rd alltime in ppg.....and #1 alltime in apg for a non-pg....."offense"?....offense is more than scoring.....stockton was a great offensive player,but didnt score much.....lebrons offense is as great as anyones
@shaqpopcorn34 But that is not true Lebron is not even a better on ball defender than Jordan..Jordan at the same age as Lebron was much better shot blocker..Lebron is getting better...And offensively You know better than most Lebron does not have to deal with hand checking and has the luxury of defensive 3 seconds..And Jordan is number 1 ppg all time..
GET THE FUCK OFF LEBRONS NUT YOU FUCKIN DIC RIDER. HE HAS NO RINGS. END OF STORY. AND HE ALWAYS CHOKES IN THE PLAYOFF SO YOU CANT SAY SHIT. I SAW LEBRON JUST GIVE UP LAST GAME, A LEGEND DOES NOT GIVE UP, A LEADER DOES NOT GIVE UP AND AN MVP DOES NOT GIVE UP. shut the fuck up loser.
@shutthefuckuploser ....lebron james is a living legend at 25....u have guys getting fined for talking about him...the president of the u.s.a talking about where he should go....every day coverage of where the nbas best player might go.....a player so great he had 19 and 10 when he got ousted.....19 rebounds and 10 assists,that is...
lebron averages more ppg,rpg,and apg than kobe in the playoffs....nuff said
@shutthefuckuploser .....he doesnt need rings....yet....he is 25....jordan at 25=no rings.....how did that turn out?....lmaoooooooo
since when have the cavs been held to a championship standard.....their franchise is a joke....ohh,thats right.....when you have the best player by far,u are held to the highest of standards
@shaqpopcorn34 jordan got a ring his 7th year in the league dumbass! lebron is now in his 8th and he doesnt have a ring. shows how much you know figsack. u know damn well everyone picked the cavs to be in the finals too.
@shutthefuckuploser ....jordan didnt come to the nba straight outta high school either.....not to mention he had phil jackson......i may be wrong,but theres a slight difference in phil jackson and mike brown.....
@shaqpopcorn34 look your a fuckin beaner towel, shut up you dont know shit. lebron is not a legend because he hasnt won anything but mvps. kobe is the living legend. fag
@shutthefuckuploser .....lebron is not only better than kobe,but far better.....kobe is anything but a legend.....legends dont shoot .414% in their finals careers....legends dont get outscored by barbosa in a game 7 in 2006.....or lose the title by 39 in 2008.....or shoot 38% in the finals,like he did in 04
shaq won 3 straight finals mvps over kobe.....ill get back to u as soon as i pull my cock outta your mothers ripe asshole
@shaqpopcorn34 LEGENDS do not choke in the playoffs every year for their entire NBA career like lebron, legends do not say they are going to enter a dunk contest and then pussy out, legends do not have the best record in the league then get raped anally by the celtics in the semifinals, legends dont have their mom get fucked by a fellow teamate then quit in a fuckin game, all lebron fans are just like him: a wet shaved pussy, that gets their moms fucked by kobe fans.
@shaqpopcorn34 ok first of all i love both because what they do for the game today but kobe has played 198 playoff games compared to lebrons 71. its like comparing someone that played one nba game and had a 50 point night and someone who played 10 games and averaged 38. 8 ppg. the more games u play, the harder it is to keep ur average up let alone increase it. and second, lebron averaged 43.5 min/game while kobe averaged 39.4 min/game. bron had more time to put up more pts,ast, rb, etc.
@tbird09100 ..lebron has a higher career ppg than kobe in the reg.season...lebron has a higher career ppg average in the playoffs.....lebron has a higher career ppg in alltstar games.......in head to head games,lebron outscores kobe....in the 2008 olympics kobe and lebron were teammates....kobe took more shots,yet lebron averaged more ppg than kobe...
@shaqpopcorn34 look all im saying is u cant compare two players stats against each other when one player has played a heck of alot more games in the reg season and playoffs because it wouldnt be fair to that player. i dont care if u think lbj is better than kobe or vice versa cuz bottom line is....MJ >>>>>>>lebron AND kobe combined
@shutthefuckuploser .....choking is averaging more ppg,rpg,apg,spg,and bpg than kobe?.....lebrons 2nd option antawn jamison,who was owned by kg.....to show the celtics depth,lebron held pierce to being the celtics 4th leading scorer,and the celtics still won......cavs are NOTHING without lebron.....1 win in 14 tries without him....best record?....only because of lebron
ill get back to u as soon as u pull my cock out of your mothers ripe asshole
you havent played on a basketball team EVER, prolly not even ymca so shut the fuck up loser. you dont shit about basketball, you hate on kobe when he has rings unlike your lover boy lechoke gaymes. i wont get back to you, because im sticking my fat hairy penis head in your moms loose wolf pussy.
@youngmoneyisweak ....lebron james is the 2nd best player who ever lived......and the best right now.....only a prime shaq was better
the cavs have a 1-13 record the last 3 years without lebron.....proof that he is carrying a bunch of losers into the playoffs.....lebron has a winning record vs kobe....he is simply much much better
@shaqpopcorn34 if hes so great then how come he hasnt made his team win a ring? kobe has, and dont start with all that kobe has better players because the cavs had shaq, mo williams, antwane jamison and a all star cast with the best record. he just plain out sucks ass likes your mommy.
@shutthefuckuploser .....your mom said my pee pee was twice as big as yours......and thats if i fold it in half....lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@shaqpopcorn34 oh im not 42ppg it was actually 43.7 ppg as a sophmore in the nba in the post season..lmao..im outta here..i love lebron and i wish him rings but dont come on an mj vid and flat disrespect mj with lebron stats that dont even compare lol..i could see if u were tellin the truth that lebron james just shits on the greatest player mj but damn lmao..im outta here
@shaqpopcorn34 LOL are u serious right now? im sorry but i saw you say earlier shaq was the best player who ever lived and lebron is the the 2nd best? lmao right there your boy shutthefuckuploser should of stopped arguing cause clearly you have no idea what your talking about. then i saw you comparing lebron and kobe numbers..lol compare lebrons playoff averages to mj's..lol make sure u dont close your eyes when you do it..lol ill have u kno mj averaged a 42ppg playoff average :)
and as for the excuse u made up for the cavs is aweful lol..lebrons team was the favorite 2 years in a row to win it all not just come out the east and he missed the finals both times ln a row. kobe has a far superior work ethic to lebron and im sorry 5 rings vs none? lebron has had a team 2 years in roaw and underachieved. no excuse. u saw it in game 6 lol lebron gave up from the 3rd quarter lmao. did u ever see kobe throw in the towel vs celtics even when they went down? lol walk
@shaqpopcorn34 LEBRON is not better than kobe or jordan, kevin durant is better than lebron LOL, legends do not give up like lebron, legends do not leave a team because his mom got fucked and the city is super gay like cleveland, The only time Lebrons name should be mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Jordans is if "will never be half as good as" is placed in between.That's right run off the court and take that jersey off...you don't deserve to wear the 23.
@mainstreamrapisweak .......lebron chokes in the playoffs?.....lmaooo...his teammates choke....lebron has proven to be a far better playoff performer than jordan or kobe....
the cavs are 1-13 the last 3 yrs without lebron....proving he single-handed carries a pathetic team...
bulls went 55-27 in 94.....jordan played 0 games....yet lebrons teammates go 1-13?....lmaoooo
@shaqpopcorn34 hey how bout instead of riding lebron's dick, you look at the FACTS, no rings= not a great playoff performer. i dont give a shit what you have to say because you dont know anything about basketball, your prolly sum fuckin 13 year old faggit in cleveland.
@shaqpopcorn34 the difference between mj and lebron is that mj MADE his teammates great yes including pippen and rodamn. lebron on the other hand has gone to a team where two of the greatest players in this era are. huge difference. and mj pippen kukoc kerr rodman grant etc. could've won with any coach because mj was more of the key to the bulls success than phil was.
@tbird09100 ..last yr with lebron,the cavs were held to a championship standard..this year they are DEAD LAST in the entire nba...the only players that could do what lebron did with the players he had around him are prime shaq or magic
LEBRON makes other better..lebron missed his first game with the heat yesterday...can u tell me why wade and bosh were down by 30 pts after 3 quarters?...no lebron,but still 2 superstars..THEY WERE DESTROYED..in terms of making others better,lebron over mike
@shaqpopcorn34 so what? mj led his bulls to a RECORD 72-10 in 95-96. which leads to the BIGGEST reason why lebron will never be as good as mj. HE DOESNT HAVE THE HEART AND WILL OF CHAMPION. i would've easily considered him being in mjs class had he stayed in cleavland and got the job done because thats what champions do. but noooo he had to run away from the pressure and he basically gave up and wanted a championship the easy way. lebron makes others better, mj made others GREAT! big difference
@shaqpopcorn34 ps so what if the heat lost without lebron? they lost to a good nuggets team(when they want to be) and thats just one game. dont try and shy away from the fact the heat without lebron is still WAAAAY better than the cavs without lebron. cavs were nothing without lebron and he gave them five great teams. bulls were nothing without mj and he gave them 6 CHAMPIONSHIP teams. you know what if u think lbj is better than thats your opnion. i dont agree with it but i cant argue with it.
@tbird09100 .....the heat had the worst loss of the entire season.....of course the heat are better than the cavs.....it was a great decision.....
u must be forgetting the bulls went 55-27 in the 93-94 season,when mike played 0 games....they also went 7 games with the knicks,and the knicks made the finals that year....
that is far from being "nothing without jordan".....i am the smartest man alive when it comes to bball....you are an amateur
@shaqpopcorn34 ok anyone who thinks lebron james is better michael jordan is probably one of the dumbest men alive when it comes to bball. offensively, defensively, statistically, leadership wise, championship wise, heart wise, clutch wise, mj OWNS lebron. just accept it cuz unless lbj becomes better than mj in any of those categories. THERE IS NO WAY U WOULD WIN THAT ARGUMENT. im done with you. peace.
@tbird09100 .....anyone who thinks lebron ISNT on mikes level doesnt have a clue.....and lebron has proven himself in all the categories you listed.....
did mike suck from 84-85 to 89-90?....was he not clutch?....he kept getting his ass kicked....lebron is in his 8th year....lebron might be the 2nd best player of alltime,to shaq......cavs are NOTHING without the legend
@shaqpopcorn34 James is a great player and does have potential to prove that he's one of the greatest. However, to say that he is on MJ's level is an over-statement. 1) He needs to win at least 1 ring to prove that he' the leader that could lead his team to win 2) He needs to retire once he wins a 3-Peat, then come back to win another 3-Peat, something that only MJ has accomplished in the history of this league. 3) Lebron needs to produce the global cultural impact which only MJ did as well.
@TheIInWin ...i am talking about as an impact player...yes,lebron is on mikes level....lebron is on anyones level....when mike left in 93,the bulls went 55-27 in the full season without mike....
as for the cavs....dead last in the nba without lebron....
cavs were 45-30 with lebron in 2008
cavs were 0-7 without lebron in 2008
lebron is so great he took a bunch of nobodies and with his presence they were expected to win...he is that great
@shaqpopcorn34 it's not so simple,cavs this year is a bad team,theileader left,their 2nd best player(williams) was injured for a long and their 2 centers(shaq-ilga)also left!but miami had 47wins last year and this year with lebron+bosh would have 10wins more,so what?lebron is agruably great player,maybe the best right now but nowat in same level mj and not only but other greats to like bird,magic,kareem,wilt...dallas laso had 51-14 with dirk and 2-10 without him this year until now.
@AdreasTheGreat .....the cavs never had a good team around lebron....
in 2008 the cavs went 7 games with the eventual champion celtics......
consider the fact that they went 0-7 that year in the 7 games he missed.......winless without lebron,going the distance with the eventual champs with lebron....nuff said
@shaqpopcorn34 i think u underrate last year cavs,was a good team.mo,shaq(even 38),jamison are good players.varejao-parker are good role players and defenders.some talented young players...hickson,west and gibson and experienced ilgauskas plus superstar lebron.i dont think kobe had better teamates except gasol!nowdays teams are more than 70-80's or early 90's and not nessecary to have 2-3 superstars to win a ring,it's easier for a superstar led a team with some help but in past was impossible.
@AdreasTheGreat ....no....the cavs didnt have the talent to beat boston last year.....barkley said before the series that jamison was better than garnett,and then garnett proceeded to kick his ass the whole series...lebron never had championship talent on his teams..
in 2008 the cavs pushed the eventual champion celtics to 7 games..
yet in the 7 games lebron missed,they went 0-7....in 2010 they were 1-5 without lebron...
compare that to the lakers being 31-10 .756% without kobe in titles year
Mike got his "ass kicked" between 84-90? He scored 37ppg in 1987. He put up 63 against Larry's championship Celtics. He kicked EVERYONE'S ass...and hit numerous clutch shots...the Cleveland shot being his biggest....ALL BEFORE 1990.
The fact that you think MJ got his ass kicked before 90 tells me you don't know a goddamn thing lol. He was the greatest player in the league in the 80's.
@Nintariz ...i was simply showing that lebron james is on mike level,MORON.....no rings for lebron?....lebron is 26 yrs old....mike was 28 when he got his first ring....im a basketball genius....nobody is smarter than me when it comes to bball.....you arent even close.....i am the single smartest bball man alive
@shutthefuckuploser man stfu you stupid hater Lebron is 25 and he has already won 2 mvp's he is a young phenomenal athlete who will and has actived great things in his career, a lot better than some fucktard hating behind a screen
jordan- 6 trips to finals,6 titles,6 finals mvps,6 times he was leading scorer
kobe- 6 trips to finals,4 titles,1 finals mvps,2 times he was leading scorer
jordan hit a championship winning shot and was finals mvp at 35 yrs old....jordan scored 45 in his last game as a bull....kobe has never scored that many in the finals....every game that series was UNDER 100 PTS
jordan- 6 trips to finals,6 titles,6 finals mvps,6 times he was leading scorer
kobe- 6 trips to finals,4 titles,1 finals mvps,2 times he was leading scorer
jordan hit a championship winning shot and was finals mvp at 35 yrs old....jordan scored 45 in his last game as a bull....kobe has never scored that many in the finals....every game that series was UNDER 100 PTS
@shaqpopcorn34 stop fuckin comparing, if you dont agree jordan is the best your an asshole. but if you say lebron is better than kobe, then your an asshole too. 1 jordan 2. kobe 3. lebron
@shutthefuckuploser .....lebrons team was just ousted in 6 games.....having said that,lebron is better than both jordan and kobe.....both lebron and jordan are way ahead of kobe.....history will show it
WOW no one is better than JORDAN. lebron's career is not better than kobes either. unless lebron wins 4 rings he wont even be considered the best ever. thats just disrespectful to jordan. you dont know anything man
@mikenotnumber1 ....changed rules for wilt?....of course more rules will be changes when bball is in its infancy....what about the rule changes for george mikan?....the difference between mikan and wilt is mikan won more titles AND caused rule changes
Well, many of us do not subscribe to your view. We could be here arguing for days but I can see that has already been done. We can argue stats but you're gong to spin yours. Listen, you have a right to your belief. No one will ever deny you of that but on the basketball world stage, as of now, Jordan is seen by most as the greatest and nothing you can say on your posts can change that. Public opinion does not favor you. Bottom line.
Junior, even on this blog you're in the minority. You dare suggest that Jordan is not looked upon as the greatest in basketball? Man, there are those who think of Jordan as the greatest sports icon of all time, let alone the best basketball player. I mean, this is where I start really wondering about you. Get off the crack and go back to school. Up against most fans, most players and most coaches. Just give it up, Barbie.
Yes he is because as of now, most people on this planet believe that MJ is the greatest, not Wilt, regardless of how envious of Jordan he was, or Magic or Bird, or Robertson or any other past or present. MJ just felt sorry for old man Wilt but that's all. Homework? I'd leave that for junior pies. You may not want to admit that MJ is the goat, but I keep telling you, buba, you're in the minority. Face it and get on with your miserable life.
I don't know exactly what you mean here with this 80s talk, but the point is. Jordan is universally recognized as the best ever and a few disgruntled Junior pies are not going to change that anytime soon so sit and wait.
JP, you ought to value age cause it makes you wiser. you can argue for a toyota all you want but if the rest of the public think a ferrari is better, you keep driving you fucking toyota en shut the fuck up cause you're not convincing anyone here. Get the point, Junior pie?
Hey, everyone on this blog, I hope you're following this conversation, because this is where a junior pie who does not know his own asshole from a moon crater gets exposed. Get this, he wants to compare Mike's numbers to Kareem's but does not want to factor in how many seasons each one played. Someone please tell this dumb ass that this is known as average points per game, of which Jordan has the highest of all time both in the regular and playoffs. People with low IQs need not apply. Thank you.
How many seasons did Kereem play to Jordans? Avarege the stats in accordance to that, genius. Also, Jordan would have taken a shorter time too had he played with Magic Johnson's Lakers. And talking about owning, Jordan has taken that to another level cause he owns the NBA even now, much to the displeasure of dumbass, pimplefaced, wack off three times a day little disgruntled bitches with a nag for talking more than their knowledge would allow.
Russell scored too? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, Junior, you ought to go spot Wilt on benching 501 pounds. Sorry, I forgot he is dead. This is where you being young does not favor you. If you don't know that Russell was never an offensive weapon, in fact, Russell could not hit a freethrow if his mama's ass depende on it, then I just have to give up on you. Hate on MJ all you want, 6 rings 6 finals MVP, however. This is never going to get done again, son. Keep sobbing.
Junior pie, anyone can manipulate arguments in accordance to thier perspective. But you writing 3 times to me to my only one time shows you're deperate. Chill, it's ok, you're losing. In the end, you never had a chance. A six time world champion with 6 finals MVPs has no argument. No one else in the NBA ever has or will combine for as much. Sob. Give it up, junior pie. You're not winning this. Go to another blog and find yourself another topic you're more familiar with, masturbation perhaps.
So what, when he finally nailed it, he put a sweeping party on the Pistons and ruled the 90s. So Jabbar won 1 without Magic. Wow! How many finals MVP"s does he have to Jordan's 6? And again Pippen, please, you're talking to someone who has seen almost every Jordan era Bulls game so don't try to seel me that bullshit. His I HAVE A MIGRANE ass was just lucky to have played with Jordan. Fact is, they could have replaced Pippen with your dumb ass and Jordan still would have won.
Also. You want to downplay Mike's 6 titles because he played alongside overrated ass Pippen but credit Jabbar for titles he won while playing with Magic? Stop using crack. Dude, whatever answers you come up with, see who the man is during the final two minutes of a game that counts. 6 rings, 6 finals MVPs.
Ok, feel like getting schooled today, son? in answer to your last post, Bill Russell has 11 titles, but his role was more defensive than offensive. He was never much of a scoring weapon so he was never as versatile as Mike. Besides, there weren't as many games played back then, as teams were way fewer. So I take Michael's six over his 11 anytime. Anyway, comparing Bill to Mike is a joke. It doesn't really merit discussion.
Dumb ass, 6 rings, 6 FINALS MVPs. Search around to see If you find anyone who matches that. It takes more than being able to bench press 500 pounds to accomplish this feat. Good luck coming up with an answer but please do us all a favor and don't say shit until you do.
Dude, get a fucking life, if not a basketball reality check. 6 rings, two 3peats, an NBA finals trophy for each, Get back to me when someone accomplishes that. Until then, hate on Jordan all you want, no one is taking you seriously.
Finally, what are you so hung up my age, Were you molested as a child? My age is irrelevant, you remedial piece of excrement, it's the argument that counts and so far you being younger is not helping yours any. By the way, stop nitpicking on stupid things like spelling and what not, this is not English grammar. It's b-ball. Whatever your agenda against Mike is, MJ is the greatest, adjust, cause that is not going to change anytime soon, so FUCK YOU AND WILT TOO. You can check my spelling on that.
Four, whatever records he holds, trust me they don't spell, six rings with a finals MVP for each one of those. Jordan and only Jordan has a right to that claim. Face it, You take away a foot and a half and off your man and he is just a burger flipper. He just took advantage of his size. And please, lets not get into records, it's getting boring having to school your ass cause for all your big talk, it is obvious that you don't know shit.
Third, Michael shitted on everybody, including big men, not just the people on his position. and did it through agility and quickness cause he could not get away with just rasing a set of stinking no deodorant can save arms over shorties and just dunking. Four, say whatever the fuck you want to say, your man would not have achieved as much had we played in later times, that is a universally recognized notion.
Dude, just a couple of points cause now you're all over the fucking place. First, fuck whatever other seven footers outside of Jabbar and Russell Wilt had to play cause most of them sucked, so he just gets credit for two high quality big men. Second, please, migrane Scottie was just there for the ride but he was never as good as Michael made him look.
Case in point... we used to manhandle all opponents in the Olympics. The games weren't even close, even back when we used to use college kids instead of pros we dominated. Then remember the original Dream Team? Total dominance.
Now we have to fight like hell just to earn a medal, and many years don't. I think the Croatians, Yugoslavians and Greeks all beat us (and I may be leaving a few out) recently. Yes, the rest of the world has improved, but we have regressed at the same time.
Wow, I can't believe I see people in here suggesting that basketball was "weaker" during MJ's era than it is today. The exact opposite is true. The level of play was FAR superior back then than it is today. Kids were actually taught the fundamentals of the game back then. Now shoe deals and 15 minutes of fame on ESPN are more important than winning games and being a good teammate. Better athletes, but worse ballplayers.
Failing? Dude, you've already failed. Had you chosen Magic, you would have made it a bit more interesting, but Wilt? Dumb!!! Had Wilt played in Jordan's era you question how strong he would have been. He did not have much formidable competition at the time so his "dominance" is suspect. And as for leading the league in assists? No Jordan didn't lead the league in assists, He was far too busy leading the league in scoring on his way to 6 rings and 6 Finals MVP. Can you count, sucker?
Again, Wilt was bigger and stronger than most everyone else at the time. This is an indisputable fact so don't even argue it unless you really want to start looking stupid. Would he have averaged 50+ points in a season against a league comprised of Shaq, Mutombo, Ewing, Mourning, and all the other more recent big men, or grabbed as many rebounds, not likely. But thinking of what Mike would have done against those bunnies that made up Wilt's era, well, that just makes me leaugh.
And please, No props on bounds. He was taller and stronger than most everyone else at the time. All he had to do was raise his hands. He hardly left the ground for them. So no compliments on shit he should have clearly been able to do. ok?
Wilt? Please! He never played outside of 4 feet from the basket. Couldn't buy a freethrow if his whole heritage depended on it, only has two championships, with only one finals MVP, did not average as many points as Mike, with all that size and power was named to the all defensive team only two times, to Michael's 9. Outside of averaging 50 points and about 20 bounds on one season and once scoring a 100, what's your argument? Care to try again?
LOL. Again..WHAT THE FUCK does that mean LOL. What a jackass. Please try again to explain yourself. If anyone can figure out what this means "So you openly admit self defeated comments? Thats more like it! I like followers who know their place!" Please enlighten me on what this freak is trying to communicate to me in the context of the thread.
You know what, bro, there's nothing like trying to educate a willing moron. Let's do it this way, if you think MJ is such a bum, who do you think is better and why?
naa. I'm gonna stick around. I like watching you type out wanna be clever responds. Did I say that you were a complete shithead before? Probably the biggest on youtube actually. I stepped in a pile of dog shit today and you actually came to mind. How was mommy's tit milk tonight. Sour? Tasted like a White Russian because she's wasted again knowing her loser kid is still living home? You were never suppose to pass that condom you do know that right?
Man, these were not teams that the bulls were going to face in the playoffs. To make a case out of this is bullshit. Some of the greatest players played on that era and these expansion teams did not make them disappear. And with regards to the 3point line, are you saying that league was weaker because the 3 point line was made closer to the basket? Is that it, cause I want to get that clear.
Wow! four instead of two! That makes a world of difference!!!!! You remedial, backwards, low IQ, ssi check collecting piece of shit. So I just remembered the raptors and the grizzlies. So what. What kind of difference does that make. Stick to main ideas, not technicalities if you want to argue. The point is that the challenges were still there. You keep on talking about failing, i wonder who the fuck gave you the idea that you're winning this argument.
Come on, man! Expansionism? So you add two new teams that will suck at first. So what? I don't see how this automatically erases every other challenge you had league wise. Shorter 3 point lines, yeah, except it was the same for everybody, not just Jordan, so what's your point? Anyway, Discussing eras is pointless, but the bulls played under greater scrutiny than every other team before them or since, and Jordan had to perform under the watchful eye of the whole world. Consider that.
I could go on and on, but again what kind of moron calls the 90s a watered down league. If anything, it was problably the strongest era the league ever had and Michael owned it, just like he owned all the players before him and now owns the players if this era. You can continue to spit all the bullshit you want if you don't get enough attention at home. But please, make an attempt to make some kind a sense before you find yourself denying that the holocaust took place as well. Quit crack.
Please, are you getting desperate here, cause nothing that you have said shows any superior knowldge of english or baskeball for that matter. What kind of moron would call a league where, Malone, Ewing, Olajuwon, Miller, Stockton, Barkley,
LOL 33 is old. Look. You're an asshole n that is OK. We need assholes in the world too. You seem like a real tough guy n I am now very scared. See my screen name. I am just a huge pussy as you state. Good luck in your future endeavors. I wish you the best with your internet wars. I'll spend my time day trading and making money while you sit n waste away dreaming of all the things you thought you could be but failed. Again.Good luck my internet warrior pal. You are a true inspiration and a winner
Man are having a civil conversation here. Why not shut your trap, read, and learn a little something. Like being able to express a thought using the English language properly. Butthurt, mangina etc. LOL. You sound like a pimple popping prick who just got off momma's fat saggy tit and got on the computer. Why not go play some Bball and not just on play station there big guy. I thinking you're some handicap freak busting balls because you're mad at the world for having to have a lobotomy. LMAO.
LOL I'm a pussy? You keep on doing your fagot core strength movements there "superdog". LOL What a joke. Fuckin' internet warriors are too much. Guys like you really need to eat through a straw for a few months to shut your man pleaser mouths. You have been starting shit with numerous posters in this thread. Your arguments are horrible at best. Your writing skills are even worse than the facts you have presented to back your stupid stance. Butt hurt.LOL. Just listen to your vocabulary tough guy.
Not many, just a couple of bitch asses, crying over the years because Michael beat up on their teams. Otherwise, the man is right. You are in the minority here. Don't believe us, go ask Magic Johnson.
Speak? You mean "Write" you dumb ass. And no, that was not an entire season so that doesn't count. And as for your "he is not number one because this is a teamsport" crap, well, I don't see you focusing much on the Bulls here. You're instead crapping on Mike. Ok, I guess being a dilusional, angry, disgruntled little bitch would be your rightt. But who then, is or has been better than he. Now you have no room to cop out behind this "team sport " garbage. Is this good enough english for you?
@mikenotnumber1 i didn't spend my time badmouthing kobe, cause i admit he's a good player, while u, out of jealousy, making fun of MJ. what makes u think that u have a fair/neutral judging, when u're up against most of the coach/sportswriters? i didn't even reply your comment, but u still have to find any of MJ video to make your point about MJ, but no proof at all. Get a job, get a life!!!
Are you purposely avoiding to point out that years coming out of rettirement in the middle of a season don't count or are you too dumb in your Jordan hatred to see that. Ok, typical Jordan hater, you're talking alot of shit. Let's see you back it up with knowledge. If Michael is not #1, than who is and why?
@MN#1shitforbrains... My head hurts trying to read your posts. Try to write in complete sentences "bro", "mangina", before posting. I can hardly even follow what the fuck you're trying to say. What a moron. And citing one bad game here and there in order to down play a whole career is once again a moronic statement. Keep posting because it's a lot of fun for everyone reading when you make an asshat out of yourself.
What the hell are you talking about. Dude, Da Bulls have 8 championships not 6. He just let them bitches have two because he wanted to play some baseball. He may not be God, but if beating up on everyone else in the NBA and literally embarrasing the league earns you a spot in heaven, this guy never needs to go to church.
Im not saying arguments against MJ being #1 cant be made It's just the weakest argument compared to all players in other sports MJ was the most:complete, athletic, clutch, stylish, trendsetting , iconic, idolized, defensive, offensive, competitive, gifted player. No other athlete had all these things in 1 PKG. I mean MJ even stepped the race lines IMO. Just look at how big BBall got with him there, and Nike, and the Bulls franchise. This is why what he did for 2 yrs with the Wizzards meant 0
He is the only player in sports with possibly "The Great One" that I have seen where 99% of his peers from all different eras are saying he's the best. Just a common sense observation. West, Bob Cousy, Elgin, Magic, Bird all say the same thing MJ was the GOAT. Not even the Babe gets that type of support, or ALI(people will say Tyson etc.). Anyone with a decent knowledge and understanding of sports can see this. I know kids yell Kobe is best but guys who follow BBall know that's not very factual
MN#1. Jeez you have some of the worst and most unfounded arguments I have read on Utube and what's even more alarming is you seem to be fairly educated while still achieving such a high level of stupidity. MJ's Wizard career would not matter one bit IMO on his legacy at that point even if he came off the bench and scored 2ppg. You're knocking him and his whole list of achievements because you feel he couldn't bring them to the playoffs at 38-40 yr old? That is your reasoning why Kobe is better?
Lose like what? He wasn't on the court those 2 years that the Bulls didn't win the title. And if you're talking about his earlier years, those Pistons teams were even better than the Bulls teams he played on (Thomas, Laimbeer, Rodman, Dumars). The Wizards teams he played on were nowhere near good enough to win a title. He's not a god. The man won 6 rings all in all, and unlike Horry was the reason his team won, not just riding the coat-tails of others.
When you blow up like that and have to resort to personal attacks, it makes you look bad, not me. It shows that you know I'm getting the better of this exchange and you're getting desperate.
You're the one that can't be taken seriously here, not me. You're the one taking not only an unpopular position, but one hardly anybody else would agree on you with. I don't have to substantiate myself to you, it's to the contrary, and you're arguments are weak. The Rockets couldn't win a title until Jordan left, and were unable to win any more after he came back and won 3 more titles. That evidence is far more compelling than a few regular season conquests.
u don't have to argue with kobe's bitch. kobe won on his own?the entire world must be blind if he really won it on his own. Hall of famer has said it all, u don't have to listen to an unemployed guy who has a part time job as a kobe's cocksucker. Kobe's a great player, but people like him just make his name bad.
That Wizards team was dreadful, and became a playoff team solely because of him. He isn't Christ though, and wasn't able to turn water into wine (win a champ. with them). Actually, I doubt even God could have pulled that one off. If Houston got the better of them in that span in the reg. season, who cares? They couldn't beat the teams the Bulls were beating to get there.
And go look in the record books and note how many times you see Wilt's name... it's ludicrous. Era wasn't "that" weak.
You clearly have some kind of agenda against this man, and are completely incapable of being objective about this. Just look at your name for crying out loud. Nothing you say should even be considered valid. If you were to ask 100 people who the best basketball player ever was, you would probably be the only one to give an answer other than Michael Jordan. But I'm sure someone as stubborn as you would maintain that the rest of the world is wrong, and you are right.
Shut up hater idiot. 110% of knowledgable human beings think Jordan is the best player ever so get out of here and go idolize Lebran and Kobo and all that shit who are nothing compared to Jordan.................
What do you mean he came back and blew it? He came back and won 3 more championships. Even with the Wizards, that was a horrid team and he turned them into a playoff team single handedly. Any objective person would acknowledge that the Bulls probably would have won those two years if Jordan hadn't decided to pursue other goals. I hated the Bulls, and even I admit it.
Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player that may have an argument about MJ being the best the game has ever seen.
Wilt does not have an argument either. He was alot of size and strengh in a league that did not have much of either one. Someone once said that the difference between Wilt and Michael was that wilt was a giant who dominated dwarfs but MJ was a dwarf who dominated giants. I think that was well put.
Michael Jordan is not The Best Ever Bill Russell is the greatest of all time no t jordan Bill Russell get 11 champions jordan only 6 champions so Russell is the Best Ever
magicjohnsonist 4 months ago
@magicjohnsonist : yeah not very impressive when you have like 8 HOFers helping you & there's only 8 team in the league that don't have as much talent probably like 2 or 3 HOFers on the other teams.
imsljr420 4 months ago
@imsljr420 The last time there were "only 8 team in the league" was 1961.
geocgeo 3 months ago
@geocgeo : (not a sarcastic reply)...thanks for the info
imsljr420 3 months ago
Silly logic. Bill Russell played in an era of about 8 teams. Jordan played with and against the greatest players and athletes in NBA historyr. Bill Russell played with individuals who dribbled the ball in front of them and wouldnt put the ball in there weak hand. Its just silliness to claim such a thing.
Bigturns33 2 months ago
quit comparing any player to jordan , nobody is close and never will be
2373muon 6 months ago
This video makes Oscar Robertson jealous/pissed
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FenqShuAlex 8 months ago
Magic at 4:32, wouldn't have said what he said had he knew that Youtube is to be realized and replace the "VCR"!
adamdyerseve 9 months ago
These Hall of Fame Legends are only speaking what's in their hearts. They've seen a lot of basketball players over the past 7 or so decades and Michael Jordan has set himself above the rest as the BEST. The fact that they would put their own egos aside and openly admit this is very telling. Check out how Connie Hawkins attempts to liken Jordan's game to his own... LOL... No Connie, MJ's game is much, much more complete than yours ever was, but nice try though!
RAV52 10 months ago 2
SERIOUS... MJ ITS THE BEST! BUT WE GOT RESPECT THE "TODAY PLAYERS" LIKE RONDO,D'ROSE,KOBE AND ETCETERA... JUST NOT RESPECT THAT HOMO CALLED DANNY AINGE! XD
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KingKoltAir 10 months ago
Jerry 'I'm the frickin' logo for the NBA' West: Michael Jordan is..."Superman".
tyenolam 10 months ago
its easy to call him the best ever. How can you not call him this way? year after year he was winning everything, absolutely everything scoring tittles, mvps, steal leader, defensive player of the league etc etc. People dont realize how dominant he was.
This clip should be at the beginning of every game just to remember god of b-ball
Jumpman1989 10 months ago
@elloelloello111 no that's not the reason why he didn't win championships every year. If you want to know the real reason why Jordan retired in 1998, watch Michael Jordan vs Jerry krause vs Phil Jackson demise of the bulls.
Dancestudent08 10 months ago
hall of famers said these things about MJ before he had won 4 more championships, 2 more league mvps (lets be honest the only reason he didnt win it every year his entire career is because they wanted a change) and a ton of other accolades. He is simply, the best.
elloelloello111 11 months ago
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some of the best players ever said these things...before he had won 4 more championships and a ton of other accolades, it really says a lot about him. GOAT.
elloelloello111 11 months ago
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elloelloello111 11 months ago
beacase there won't be another one,that's for sure...
lionelangemario 11 months ago
Michael Jordan, NEO of the basketball matrix, by sheer power of will and supreme neurokinetics able to slow down everybody else on the court, stop the ball in mid air and dodge sentinels (defenders).
sdf123654 1 year ago
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"That there had been even one Michael Jordan seemed in retrospect something of a genetic fluke, and the idea that anyone would arrive in so short a span of time and do what he did both on and off the court seemed highly unlikely." - David Halberstam (Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World He Made)
bolder2009 1 year ago
THE END.......
There will never be another. This disproves any aruments about Chamberlain, Russell, Dr. J, Kareem, Kobe, Lebron, Bird, or even Magic,. You have one this GREAT video. Elgin Baylor, the great Jerry west(NBA Logo) the imortal Bob cousy, magic johnson, Dr J, all saying they have never seen anything like MICHAEL JORDAN? That's because there had never been anything close to him, and there never will be again. Kobe is great for this generation, but he aint no Michael Jordan! lol
Bragadoshis 1 year ago
LOOK at 3:53 aint nobody in the NBA got this kind of heart NOBODY not KG,not Lebron, or Wade. Kobe is the only one who comes close.
phraedusthamusicdigr 1 year ago
I give Jordan far more credit then Russell is because Russell played in a league which through most of his career consisted of 9 NBA Teams only. Only during the latter end of the 60's did the teams go up to a whopping 12.
Now that gives room for more stacked teams and the Celtics of the 60's were absolutely Stacked in contrast to all other teams, its not even close. Jordan won 6 Championships during the most defensive dominated era+his overall greater dominance puts him on another level.
TrueSephiros 1 year ago
@TrueSephiros Obviously MJ is the best as a player - but to think the league was not competitive you just don't know your history. Russell is the best team leader - and the guy you want on the court is you want rings. MJ is the most skilled overall player of all time, Chamberlain the most dominate.
MJ's greatness is that he knew (unlike Wilt) that it took a team. Russell was the best at getting the most from a team.
Look at who Russell was winning championships against...
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hoopdreams2g2btru 1 year ago
1961-62, Bill Russell had an 18.9 scoring average, his career high. Chamberlain's individual accomplishments were mind-boggling: he won the scoring title by averaging 50.4 points, while the team-oriented Celtics didn't place anybody in the top 10. The NBA PLAYERS, voting for MVP, chose Russell over Chamberlain.
Jordan can't touch what Russell did, and Russell cant touch what Jordan did. Both, were the unquestioned best at doing what they did.
ReformBarackObama 1 year ago
@ReformBarackObama lol at bringing up 1961 stats like they have any relevance in todays game...today's NBA is miles beyond the semi-pro pony league ball they were playing in 1961.
phraedusthamusicdigr 1 year ago
@phraedusthamusicdigr so you are saying that Jordan will soon be irrelevant because the league is growing?
How about you try looking at the teams he had to beat.
Giving Russell his due takes nothing from Jordan. Fact is Jordan would have won more if he played with Russell, cus if you played with Russell, your stats went up 20-35%.
Russell was a Lebron body and skills, with a Phil Jackson mind.
Even so Jordan was a better player...
ReformBarackObama 1 year ago
@ReformBarackObama Russell had Lebron's body? He was a 220 lb undersized CENTER. Lebron is 6 8 250 he could have played center in the 60's and handle the ball. God knows what kind of numbers Lebron or MJ in his prime would have put up in the 60's. Don't you think there was a reason players put up video game stats in the 60's? The competition and quality of players in the 60's was laughable...yes there were good players but as a whole the league was weak.
phraedusthamusicdigr 1 year ago
If you had to build a team, first pick MJ, second pick Bill Russell third pick Magic, after that you can pick me and your mom. You will get rings.
For those of you that don't know about Russell 9 rings in a row, 11 overall - oh and his teammates? 20-35% increase in individual stats.
Magic understood the game in a way that opened the floor for everyone.
And MJ? Well with Russell clearing out the middle and Magic tossing the rock... Bring anyone, any time.
Kobe, Bird, Shaq, all second place.
ReformBarackObama 1 year ago
a true legend....his name will live on. a global icon.
mmaxsters 1 year ago
This was before he won 4 more championships according to the subtitles. And he was been regarded as the greatest already.
alexg3715 1 year ago
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The very best all the rest are watered down versions.
rob23molina 1 year ago
Hehe....Magic said set your VCR's....for all you kids that don't know what those are google them....like an old school TIVO.
GWDPREZ07 1 year ago
So many Hall of Famers will never speak of Kobe or LeBron like this.
PEPEelZAPATISTA 1 year ago 30
@PEPEelZAPATISTA R u kidding? people already talk about Kobe like this and have been for years!!! don't be a hater you dipshit
reneperezz 1 year ago
@reneperezz i think u misinterpretated, theres a difference between espn analysts talking like this about u and the greatest players in HISTORY talking like this about u! sure people say things similiar to this about kobe but the people saying it arent greats of the game. dont be mad though, mjs probably the only one the greats do talk about like that.
tbird09100 1 year ago
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reneperezz 1 year ago
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@PEPEelZAPATISTA they've been talking about Kobe like this for years! get of MJ's dick faggot
reneperezz 1 year ago
The all time greats know the TRUTH, Jordan is the one and only GOAT. The best to ever lace 'em up, dominated on BOTH ends, raised his game when it mattered most, had NO weaknesses, was the most competitive athlete ever, and simply mentally and physically beat everyone else down. GOAT. Believe that.
utfanatic2000 1 year ago
@utfanatic2000 ...no player is perfect,lebron should top mj...i already consider him better....no,mj didnt ALWAYS come through when it mattered....he did a lot though...i remember one game where jordan shot 5-19 and had 5 turnovers....that was game 6 of the 96 finals!!!...he played that badly and his team WON....bulls had many very good players....rodman had 11 offensive rbs in that game
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 Definitely not sure about LBJ topping MJ. LBJ has yet to prove he is mentally tough enough. MJ would destroy LBJ mentally. MJ rose to the occasion. You had to go to the 96 finals, when Jordan was 33....LMAO....33! That shows you how dominant he was. His worst shooting finals is Kobe's AVERAGE! LMAO. LBJ needs to start making it past the 2nd round again before he's even in the conversation.
LakersFanatic2000 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 How can LBJ be better? Jordan is better offensive player and defensive player than LBJ..You can nit pick bad Jordan games..You have to look at the career..Most of the time he came though with good game to great games when they needed him..
MJisKingKobesuckss 1 year ago
@MJisKingKobesuckss .....i consider lebron better offensively and defensively.....offensively?....lebron is 3rd alltime in ppg.....and #1 alltime in apg for a non-pg....."offense"?....offense is more than scoring.....stockton was a great offensive player,but didnt score much.....lebrons offense is as great as anyones
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 But that is not true Lebron is not even a better on ball defender than Jordan..Jordan at the same age as Lebron was much better shot blocker..Lebron is getting better...And offensively You know better than most Lebron does not have to deal with hand checking and has the luxury of defensive 3 seconds..And Jordan is number 1 ppg all time..
MJisKingKobesuckss 1 year ago
GET THE FUCK OFF LEBRONS NUT YOU FUCKIN DIC RIDER. HE HAS NO RINGS. END OF STORY. AND HE ALWAYS CHOKES IN THE PLAYOFF SO YOU CANT SAY SHIT. I SAW LEBRON JUST GIVE UP LAST GAME, A LEGEND DOES NOT GIVE UP, A LEADER DOES NOT GIVE UP AND AN MVP DOES NOT GIVE UP. shut the fuck up loser.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago 7
@shutthefuckuploser ....lebron james is a living legend at 25....u have guys getting fined for talking about him...the president of the u.s.a talking about where he should go....every day coverage of where the nbas best player might go.....a player so great he had 19 and 10 when he got ousted.....19 rebounds and 10 assists,that is...
lebron averages more ppg,rpg,and apg than kobe in the playoffs....nuff said
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
lebron has no rings. nuff said.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser .....he doesnt need rings....yet....he is 25....jordan at 25=no rings.....how did that turn out?....lmaoooooooo
since when have the cavs been held to a championship standard.....their franchise is a joke....ohh,thats right.....when you have the best player by far,u are held to the highest of standards
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 jordan got a ring his 7th year in the league dumbass! lebron is now in his 8th and he doesnt have a ring. shows how much you know figsack. u know damn well everyone picked the cavs to be in the finals too.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ....jordan didnt come to the nba straight outta high school either.....not to mention he had phil jackson......i may be wrong,but theres a slight difference in phil jackson and mike brown.....
phil has won 4 rings after jordan....maybe 5....
cavs had shitty players.....its that simple....
lebron= living legend
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 look your a fuckin beaner towel, shut up you dont know shit. lebron is not a legend because he hasnt won anything but mvps. kobe is the living legend. fag
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser .....lebron is not only better than kobe,but far better.....kobe is anything but a legend.....legends dont shoot .414% in their finals careers....legends dont get outscored by barbosa in a game 7 in 2006.....or lose the title by 39 in 2008.....or shoot 38% in the finals,like he did in 04
shaq won 3 straight finals mvps over kobe.....ill get back to u as soon as i pull my cock outta your mothers ripe asshole
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 LEGENDS do not choke in the playoffs every year for their entire NBA career like lebron, legends do not say they are going to enter a dunk contest and then pussy out, legends do not have the best record in the league then get raped anally by the celtics in the semifinals, legends dont have their mom get fucked by a fellow teamate then quit in a fuckin game, all lebron fans are just like him: a wet shaved pussy, that gets their moms fucked by kobe fans.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ...lebron chokes?....
CAREER PLAYOFF AVERAGES,
kobe- 25.4 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.9 apg 1.4 spg 0.7 bpg
bron- 29.4 ppg 8.4 rpg 7.3 apg 1.6 spg 1.0 bpg......LOOK IT UP...LMAO
lakers were 6-3 this yr without kobe......cavs were 1-5 without lebron...
nuff said
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 ok first of all i love both because what they do for the game today but kobe has played 198 playoff games compared to lebrons 71. its like comparing someone that played one nba game and had a 50 point night and someone who played 10 games and averaged 38. 8 ppg. the more games u play, the harder it is to keep ur average up let alone increase it. and second, lebron averaged 43.5 min/game while kobe averaged 39.4 min/game. bron had more time to put up more pts,ast, rb, etc.
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 ..lebron has a higher career ppg than kobe in the reg.season...lebron has a higher career ppg average in the playoffs.....lebron has a higher career ppg in alltstar games.......in head to head games,lebron outscores kobe....in the 2008 olympics kobe and lebron were teammates....kobe took more shots,yet lebron averaged more ppg than kobe...
kobe=sidekick for life
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 look all im saying is u cant compare two players stats against each other when one player has played a heck of alot more games in the reg season and playoffs because it wouldnt be fair to that player. i dont care if u think lbj is better than kobe or vice versa cuz bottom line is....MJ >>>>>>>lebron AND kobe combined
tbird09100 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser .....choking is averaging more ppg,rpg,apg,spg,and bpg than kobe?.....lebrons 2nd option antawn jamison,who was owned by kg.....to show the celtics depth,lebron held pierce to being the celtics 4th leading scorer,and the celtics still won......cavs are NOTHING without lebron.....1 win in 14 tries without him....best record?....only because of lebron
ill get back to u as soon as u pull my cock out of your mothers ripe asshole
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
you havent played on a basketball team EVER, prolly not even ymca so shut the fuck up loser. you dont shit about basketball, you hate on kobe when he has rings unlike your lover boy lechoke gaymes. i wont get back to you, because im sticking my fat hairy penis head in your moms loose wolf pussy.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 LEBRON JAMES IS A FUCKIN CHOKE ARTIST. he isnt half as good as kobe, and compared to jordan he is a fetus.lol.
youngmoneyisweak 1 year ago
@youngmoneyisweak ....lebron james is the 2nd best player who ever lived......and the best right now.....only a prime shaq was better
the cavs have a 1-13 record the last 3 years without lebron.....proof that he is carrying a bunch of losers into the playoffs.....lebron has a winning record vs kobe....he is simply much much better
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 if hes so great then how come he hasnt made his team win a ring? kobe has, and dont start with all that kobe has better players because the cavs had shaq, mo williams, antwane jamison and a all star cast with the best record. he just plain out sucks ass likes your mommy.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ....if that cast was good,why were they 1-5 without lebron?.....lakers were 6-3 without kobe......lololololololol
ill get back to u as soon as i pull my cock outta your moms ripe asshole
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
you have a small penis LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
you have a small penis LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser .....your mom said my pee pee was twice as big as yours......and thats if i fold it in half....lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
what your address pussy bitch?
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ...my address is 10111 ibangedyourmomsass.....come by anytime!
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 ha your a pussy.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ...your boyfriend is a pussy
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 oh im not 42ppg it was actually 43.7 ppg as a sophmore in the nba in the post season..lmao..im outta here..i love lebron and i wish him rings but dont come on an mj vid and flat disrespect mj with lebron stats that dont even compare lol..i could see if u were tellin the truth that lebron james just shits on the greatest player mj but damn lmao..im outta here
joelz1221 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 LOL are u serious right now? im sorry but i saw you say earlier shaq was the best player who ever lived and lebron is the the 2nd best? lmao right there your boy shutthefuckuploser should of stopped arguing cause clearly you have no idea what your talking about. then i saw you comparing lebron and kobe numbers..lol compare lebrons playoff averages to mj's..lol make sure u dont close your eyes when you do it..lol ill have u kno mj averaged a 42ppg playoff average :)
joelz1221 1 year ago
@joelz1221 i hope u mean he averaged 42 ppg in one season because in his career he averaged 33.4 ppg (still the best average ever!!!)
tbird09100 1 year ago
and as for the excuse u made up for the cavs is aweful lol..lebrons team was the favorite 2 years in a row to win it all not just come out the east and he missed the finals both times ln a row. kobe has a far superior work ethic to lebron and im sorry 5 rings vs none? lebron has had a team 2 years in roaw and underachieved. no excuse. u saw it in game 6 lol lebron gave up from the 3rd quarter lmao. did u ever see kobe throw in the towel vs celtics even when they went down? lol walk
joelz1221 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 LEBRON is not better than kobe or jordan, kevin durant is better than lebron LOL, legends do not give up like lebron, legends do not leave a team because his mom got fucked and the city is super gay like cleveland, The only time Lebrons name should be mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Jordans is if "will never be half as good as" is placed in between.That's right run off the court and take that jersey off...you don't deserve to wear the 23.
mainstreamrapisweak 1 year ago
@mainstreamrapisweak .......lebron chokes in the playoffs?.....lmaooo...his teammates choke....lebron has proven to be a far better playoff performer than jordan or kobe....
the cavs are 1-13 the last 3 yrs without lebron....proving he single-handed carries a pathetic team...
bulls went 55-27 in 94.....jordan played 0 games....yet lebrons teammates go 1-13?....lmaoooo
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@mainstreamrapisweak .....lakers are great with or without kobe.....cavs are nothing without lebron james
lakers are 51-22 .699% with kobe
lakers are 6-3 .667% without kobe
cavs are 60-16 .789% with lebron
cavs are 1-5 .167% wthout lebron
proof that kobe has great teammates,and lebrons are shit....facts are facts
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 hey how bout instead of riding lebron's dick, you look at the FACTS, no rings= not a great playoff performer. i dont give a shit what you have to say because you dont know anything about basketball, your prolly sum fuckin 13 year old faggit in cleveland.
mainstreamrapisweak 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 the difference between mj and lebron is that mj MADE his teammates great yes including pippen and rodamn. lebron on the other hand has gone to a team where two of the greatest players in this era are. huge difference. and mj pippen kukoc kerr rodman grant etc. could've won with any coach because mj was more of the key to the bulls success than phil was.
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 ..last yr with lebron,the cavs were held to a championship standard..this year they are DEAD LAST in the entire nba...the only players that could do what lebron did with the players he had around him are prime shaq or magic
LEBRON makes other better..lebron missed his first game with the heat yesterday...can u tell me why wade and bosh were down by 30 pts after 3 quarters?...no lebron,but still 2 superstars..THEY WERE DESTROYED..in terms of making others better,lebron over mike
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 so what? mj led his bulls to a RECORD 72-10 in 95-96. which leads to the BIGGEST reason why lebron will never be as good as mj. HE DOESNT HAVE THE HEART AND WILL OF CHAMPION. i would've easily considered him being in mjs class had he stayed in cleavland and got the job done because thats what champions do. but noooo he had to run away from the pressure and he basically gave up and wanted a championship the easy way. lebron makes others better, mj made others GREAT! big difference
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 WILL OF *A* CHAMPION
tbird09100 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 ps so what if the heat lost without lebron? they lost to a good nuggets team(when they want to be) and thats just one game. dont try and shy away from the fact the heat without lebron is still WAAAAY better than the cavs without lebron. cavs were nothing without lebron and he gave them five great teams. bulls were nothing without mj and he gave them 6 CHAMPIONSHIP teams. you know what if u think lbj is better than thats your opnion. i dont agree with it but i cant argue with it.
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 oops i mean cleveland
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 .....the heat had the worst loss of the entire season.....of course the heat are better than the cavs.....it was a great decision.....
u must be forgetting the bulls went 55-27 in the 93-94 season,when mike played 0 games....they also went 7 games with the knicks,and the knicks made the finals that year....
that is far from being "nothing without jordan".....i am the smartest man alive when it comes to bball....you are an amateur
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 ok anyone who thinks lebron james is better michael jordan is probably one of the dumbest men alive when it comes to bball. offensively, defensively, statistically, leadership wise, championship wise, heart wise, clutch wise, mj OWNS lebron. just accept it cuz unless lbj becomes better than mj in any of those categories. THERE IS NO WAY U WOULD WIN THAT ARGUMENT. im done with you. peace.
tbird09100 1 year ago
@tbird09100 .....anyone who thinks lebron ISNT on mikes level doesnt have a clue.....and lebron has proven himself in all the categories you listed.....
did mike suck from 84-85 to 89-90?....was he not clutch?....he kept getting his ass kicked....lebron is in his 8th year....lebron might be the 2nd best player of alltime,to shaq......cavs are NOTHING without the legend
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 Youre drastically overrating Lebron but i agree that Shaq is the GOAT.
Lakers24life 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 James is a great player and does have potential to prove that he's one of the greatest. However, to say that he is on MJ's level is an over-statement. 1) He needs to win at least 1 ring to prove that he' the leader that could lead his team to win 2) He needs to retire once he wins a 3-Peat, then come back to win another 3-Peat, something that only MJ has accomplished in the history of this league. 3) Lebron needs to produce the global cultural impact which only MJ did as well.
TheIInWin 1 year ago
@TheIInWin ...i am talking about as an impact player...yes,lebron is on mikes level....lebron is on anyones level....when mike left in 93,the bulls went 55-27 in the full season without mike....
as for the cavs....dead last in the nba without lebron....
cavs were 45-30 with lebron in 2008
cavs were 0-7 without lebron in 2008
lebron is so great he took a bunch of nobodies and with his presence they were expected to win...he is that great
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 it's not so simple,cavs this year is a bad team,theileader left,their 2nd best player(williams) was injured for a long and their 2 centers(shaq-ilga)also left!but miami had 47wins last year and this year with lebron+bosh would have 10wins more,so what?lebron is agruably great player,maybe the best right now but nowat in same level mj and not only but other greats to like bird,magic,kareem,wilt...dallas laso had 51-14 with dirk and 2-10 without him this year until now.
AdreasTheGreat 10 months ago
@AdreasTheGreat .....the cavs never had a good team around lebron....
in 2008 the cavs went 7 games with the eventual champion celtics......
consider the fact that they went 0-7 that year in the 7 games he missed.......winless without lebron,going the distance with the eventual champs with lebron....nuff said
shaqpopcorn34 9 months ago
@shaqpopcorn34 i think u underrate last year cavs,was a good team.mo,shaq(even 38),jamison are good players.varejao-parker are good role players and defenders.some talented young players...hickson,west and gibson and experienced ilgauskas plus superstar lebron.i dont think kobe had better teamates except gasol!nowdays teams are more than 70-80's or early 90's and not nessecary to have 2-3 superstars to win a ring,it's easier for a superstar led a team with some help but in past was impossible.
AdreasTheGreat 9 months ago
@AdreasTheGreat ....no....the cavs didnt have the talent to beat boston last year.....barkley said before the series that jamison was better than garnett,and then garnett proceeded to kick his ass the whole series...lebron never had championship talent on his teams..
in 2008 the cavs pushed the eventual champion celtics to 7 games..
yet in the 7 games lebron missed,they went 0-7....in 2010 they were 1-5 without lebron...
compare that to the lakers being 31-10 .756% without kobe in titles year
shaqpopcorn34 9 months ago
@shaqpopcorn34
Mike got his "ass kicked" between 84-90? He scored 37ppg in 1987. He put up 63 against Larry's championship Celtics. He kicked EVERYONE'S ass...and hit numerous clutch shots...the Cleveland shot being his biggest....ALL BEFORE 1990.
The fact that you think MJ got his ass kicked before 90 tells me you don't know a goddamn thing lol. He was the greatest player in the league in the 80's.
Nintariz 11 months ago
@Nintariz ...i was simply showing that lebron james is on mike level,MORON.....no rings for lebron?....lebron is 26 yrs old....mike was 28 when he got his first ring....im a basketball genius....nobody is smarter than me when it comes to bball.....you arent even close.....i am the single smartest bball man alive
shaqpopcorn34 11 months ago
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TheIInWin 1 year ago
@tbird09100 ......how about this for impact.....lebron in 2008 with cavs.....
cavs were 45-30 with lebron in 2008
cavs were 0-7 without lebron in 2008
need i say more?.....what about just LAST YEAR....
cavs were 60-16 with lebron in 2010
cavs were 1-5 without lebron in 2010......lebron is the king of making others better
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser man stfu you stupid hater Lebron is 25 and he has already won 2 mvp's he is a young phenomenal athlete who will and has actived great things in his career, a lot better than some fucktard hating behind a screen
warriorofjustuce 4 months ago
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@mikenotnumber1 ...
jordan- 6 trips to finals,6 titles,6 finals mvps,6 times he was leading scorer
kobe- 6 trips to finals,4 titles,1 finals mvps,2 times he was leading scorer
jordan hit a championship winning shot and was finals mvp at 35 yrs old....jordan scored 45 in his last game as a bull....kobe has never scored that many in the finals....every game that series was UNDER 100 PTS
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1 ...
jordan- 6 trips to finals,6 titles,6 finals mvps,6 times he was leading scorer
kobe- 6 trips to finals,4 titles,1 finals mvps,2 times he was leading scorer
jordan hit a championship winning shot and was finals mvp at 35 yrs old....jordan scored 45 in his last game as a bull....kobe has never scored that many in the finals....every game that series was UNDER 100 PTS
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@shaqpopcorn34 stop fuckin comparing, if you dont agree jordan is the best your an asshole. but if you say lebron is better than kobe, then your an asshole too. 1 jordan 2. kobe 3. lebron
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser .....lebrons team was just ousted in 6 games.....having said that,lebron is better than both jordan and kobe.....both lebron and jordan are way ahead of kobe.....history will show it
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
WOW no one is better than JORDAN. lebron's career is not better than kobes either. unless lebron wins 4 rings he wont even be considered the best ever. thats just disrespectful to jordan. you dont know anything man
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
how is lebron ahead of kobe?? you r a fuckin slut.
shutthefuckuploser 1 year ago
@shutthefuckuploser ...your mother is the slut....and yes,lebron over kobe....and by far
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1 ....changed rules for wilt?....of course more rules will be changes when bball is in its infancy....what about the rule changes for george mikan?....the difference between mikan and wilt is mikan won more titles AND caused rule changes
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
Well, many of us do not subscribe to your view. We could be here arguing for days but I can see that has already been done. We can argue stats but you're gong to spin yours. Listen, you have a right to your belief. No one will ever deny you of that but on the basketball world stage, as of now, Jordan is seen by most as the greatest and nothing you can say on your posts can change that. Public opinion does not favor you. Bottom line.
andromeda843 1 year ago
Junior, even on this blog you're in the minority. You dare suggest that Jordan is not looked upon as the greatest in basketball? Man, there are those who think of Jordan as the greatest sports icon of all time, let alone the best basketball player. I mean, this is where I start really wondering about you. Get off the crack and go back to school. Up against most fans, most players and most coaches. Just give it up, Barbie.
andromeda843 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
Yes he is because as of now, most people on this planet believe that MJ is the greatest, not Wilt, regardless of how envious of Jordan he was, or Magic or Bird, or Robertson or any other past or present. MJ just felt sorry for old man Wilt but that's all. Homework? I'd leave that for junior pies. You may not want to admit that MJ is the goat, but I keep telling you, buba, you're in the minority. Face it and get on with your miserable life.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Ask Jerry ask Lebron ask Kobe ask Phill. whos the best ever? Theyve all answered. JORDAN!!! done.
wilderwun211 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
I don't know exactly what you mean here with this 80s talk, but the point is. Jordan is universally recognized as the best ever and a few disgruntled Junior pies are not going to change that anytime soon so sit and wait.
jkoruty 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
JP, you ought to value age cause it makes you wiser. you can argue for a toyota all you want but if the rest of the public think a ferrari is better, you keep driving you fucking toyota en shut the fuck up cause you're not convincing anyone here. Get the point, Junior pie?
jkoruty 1 year ago
Hey, everyone on this blog, I hope you're following this conversation, because this is where a junior pie who does not know his own asshole from a moon crater gets exposed. Get this, he wants to compare Mike's numbers to Kareem's but does not want to factor in how many seasons each one played. Someone please tell this dumb ass that this is known as average points per game, of which Jordan has the highest of all time both in the regular and playoffs. People with low IQs need not apply. Thank you.
jkoruty 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
How many seasons did Kereem play to Jordans? Avarege the stats in accordance to that, genius. Also, Jordan would have taken a shorter time too had he played with Magic Johnson's Lakers. And talking about owning, Jordan has taken that to another level cause he owns the NBA even now, much to the displeasure of dumbass, pimplefaced, wack off three times a day little disgruntled bitches with a nag for talking more than their knowledge would allow.
jkoruty 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
Russell scored too? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, Junior, you ought to go spot Wilt on benching 501 pounds. Sorry, I forgot he is dead. This is where you being young does not favor you. If you don't know that Russell was never an offensive weapon, in fact, Russell could not hit a freethrow if his mama's ass depende on it, then I just have to give up on you. Hate on MJ all you want, 6 rings 6 finals MVP, however. This is never going to get done again, son. Keep sobbing.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Junior pie, anyone can manipulate arguments in accordance to thier perspective. But you writing 3 times to me to my only one time shows you're deperate. Chill, it's ok, you're losing. In the end, you never had a chance. A six time world champion with 6 finals MVPs has no argument. No one else in the NBA ever has or will combine for as much. Sob. Give it up, junior pie. You're not winning this. Go to another blog and find yourself another topic you're more familiar with, masturbation perhaps.
jkoruty 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1
So what, when he finally nailed it, he put a sweeping party on the Pistons and ruled the 90s. So Jabbar won 1 without Magic. Wow! How many finals MVP"s does he have to Jordan's 6? And again Pippen, please, you're talking to someone who has seen almost every Jordan era Bulls game so don't try to seel me that bullshit. His I HAVE A MIGRANE ass was just lucky to have played with Jordan. Fact is, they could have replaced Pippen with your dumb ass and Jordan still would have won.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Also. You want to downplay Mike's 6 titles because he played alongside overrated ass Pippen but credit Jabbar for titles he won while playing with Magic? Stop using crack. Dude, whatever answers you come up with, see who the man is during the final two minutes of a game that counts. 6 rings, 6 finals MVPs.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Ok, feel like getting schooled today, son? in answer to your last post, Bill Russell has 11 titles, but his role was more defensive than offensive. He was never much of a scoring weapon so he was never as versatile as Mike. Besides, there weren't as many games played back then, as teams were way fewer. So I take Michael's six over his 11 anytime. Anyway, comparing Bill to Mike is a joke. It doesn't really merit discussion.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Dumb ass, 6 rings, 6 FINALS MVPs. Search around to see If you find anyone who matches that. It takes more than being able to bench press 500 pounds to accomplish this feat. Good luck coming up with an answer but please do us all a favor and don't say shit until you do.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Dude, get a fucking life, if not a basketball reality check. 6 rings, two 3peats, an NBA finals trophy for each, Get back to me when someone accomplishes that. Until then, hate on Jordan all you want, no one is taking you seriously.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Finally, what are you so hung up my age, Were you molested as a child? My age is irrelevant, you remedial piece of excrement, it's the argument that counts and so far you being younger is not helping yours any. By the way, stop nitpicking on stupid things like spelling and what not, this is not English grammar. It's b-ball. Whatever your agenda against Mike is, MJ is the greatest, adjust, cause that is not going to change anytime soon, so FUCK YOU AND WILT TOO. You can check my spelling on that.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Four, whatever records he holds, trust me they don't spell, six rings with a finals MVP for each one of those. Jordan and only Jordan has a right to that claim. Face it, You take away a foot and a half and off your man and he is just a burger flipper. He just took advantage of his size. And please, lets not get into records, it's getting boring having to school your ass cause for all your big talk, it is obvious that you don't know shit.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Third, Michael shitted on everybody, including big men, not just the people on his position. and did it through agility and quickness cause he could not get away with just rasing a set of stinking no deodorant can save arms over shorties and just dunking. Four, say whatever the fuck you want to say, your man would not have achieved as much had we played in later times, that is a universally recognized notion.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Dude, just a couple of points cause now you're all over the fucking place. First, fuck whatever other seven footers outside of Jabbar and Russell Wilt had to play cause most of them sucked, so he just gets credit for two high quality big men. Second, please, migrane Scottie was just there for the ride but he was never as good as Michael made him look.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Case in point... we used to manhandle all opponents in the Olympics. The games weren't even close, even back when we used to use college kids instead of pros we dominated. Then remember the original Dream Team? Total dominance.
Now we have to fight like hell just to earn a medal, and many years don't. I think the Croatians, Yugoslavians and Greeks all beat us (and I may be leaving a few out) recently. Yes, the rest of the world has improved, but we have regressed at the same time.
JunmaiShu 1 year ago
Wow, I can't believe I see people in here suggesting that basketball was "weaker" during MJ's era than it is today. The exact opposite is true. The level of play was FAR superior back then than it is today. Kids were actually taught the fundamentals of the game back then. Now shoe deals and 15 minutes of fame on ESPN are more important than winning games and being a good teammate. Better athletes, but worse ballplayers.
JunmaiShu 1 year ago
Failing? Dude, you've already failed. Had you chosen Magic, you would have made it a bit more interesting, but Wilt? Dumb!!! Had Wilt played in Jordan's era you question how strong he would have been. He did not have much formidable competition at the time so his "dominance" is suspect. And as for leading the league in assists? No Jordan didn't lead the league in assists, He was far too busy leading the league in scoring on his way to 6 rings and 6 Finals MVP. Can you count, sucker?
jkoruty 1 year ago
Again, Wilt was bigger and stronger than most everyone else at the time. This is an indisputable fact so don't even argue it unless you really want to start looking stupid. Would he have averaged 50+ points in a season against a league comprised of Shaq, Mutombo, Ewing, Mourning, and all the other more recent big men, or grabbed as many rebounds, not likely. But thinking of what Mike would have done against those bunnies that made up Wilt's era, well, that just makes me leaugh.
jkoruty 1 year ago
And please, No props on bounds. He was taller and stronger than most everyone else at the time. All he had to do was raise his hands. He hardly left the ground for them. So no compliments on shit he should have clearly been able to do. ok?
jkoruty 1 year ago
Wilt? Please! He never played outside of 4 feet from the basket. Couldn't buy a freethrow if his whole heritage depended on it, only has two championships, with only one finals MVP, did not average as many points as Mike, with all that size and power was named to the all defensive team only two times, to Michael's 9. Outside of averaging 50 points and about 20 bounds on one season and once scoring a 100, what's your argument? Care to try again?
jkoruty 1 year ago
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LOL. Again..WHAT THE FUCK does that mean LOL. What a jackass. Please try again to explain yourself. If anyone can figure out what this means "So you openly admit self defeated comments? Thats more like it! I like followers who know their place!" Please enlighten me on what this freak is trying to communicate to me in the context of the thread.
westy44cal 1 year ago
You know what, bro, there's nothing like trying to educate a willing moron. Let's do it this way, if you think MJ is such a bum, who do you think is better and why?
jkoruty 1 year ago
naa. I'm gonna stick around. I like watching you type out wanna be clever responds. Did I say that you were a complete shithead before? Probably the biggest on youtube actually. I stepped in a pile of dog shit today and you actually came to mind. How was mommy's tit milk tonight. Sour? Tasted like a White Russian because she's wasted again knowing her loser kid is still living home? You were never suppose to pass that condom you do know that right?
westy44cal 1 year ago
Man, these were not teams that the bulls were going to face in the playoffs. To make a case out of this is bullshit. Some of the greatest players played on that era and these expansion teams did not make them disappear. And with regards to the 3point line, are you saying that league was weaker because the 3 point line was made closer to the basket? Is that it, cause I want to get that clear.
jkoruty 1 year ago
back for more crack LOL. How's the piece of shit doing today? Still arguing with educated folk and being made a fool of??..appears you are!
westy44cal 1 year ago
Wow! four instead of two! That makes a world of difference!!!!! You remedial, backwards, low IQ, ssi check collecting piece of shit. So I just remembered the raptors and the grizzlies. So what. What kind of difference does that make. Stick to main ideas, not technicalities if you want to argue. The point is that the challenges were still there. You keep on talking about failing, i wonder who the fuck gave you the idea that you're winning this argument.
jkoruty 1 year ago
LOL.what the fuck are you talking about LOL. Strange individual.
westy44cal 1 year ago
Just trying to accentuate how separated from reality you seem to be, bro. That's all
jkoruty 1 year ago
Come on, man! Expansionism? So you add two new teams that will suck at first. So what? I don't see how this automatically erases every other challenge you had league wise. Shorter 3 point lines, yeah, except it was the same for everybody, not just Jordan, so what's your point? Anyway, Discussing eras is pointless, but the bulls played under greater scrutiny than every other team before them or since, and Jordan had to perform under the watchful eye of the whole world. Consider that.
jkoruty 1 year ago
I could go on and on, but again what kind of moron calls the 90s a watered down league. If anything, it was problably the strongest era the league ever had and Michael owned it, just like he owned all the players before him and now owns the players if this era. You can continue to spit all the bullshit you want if you don't get enough attention at home. But please, make an attempt to make some kind a sense before you find yourself denying that the holocaust took place as well. Quit crack.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Please, are you getting desperate here, cause nothing that you have said shows any superior knowldge of english or baskeball for that matter. What kind of moron would call a league where, Malone, Ewing, Olajuwon, Miller, Stockton, Barkley,
jkoruty 1 year ago
LOL 33 is old. Look. You're an asshole n that is OK. We need assholes in the world too. You seem like a real tough guy n I am now very scared. See my screen name. I am just a huge pussy as you state. Good luck in your future endeavors. I wish you the best with your internet wars. I'll spend my time day trading and making money while you sit n waste away dreaming of all the things you thought you could be but failed. Again.Good luck my internet warrior pal. You are a true inspiration and a winner
westy44cal 1 year ago
Man are having a civil conversation here. Why not shut your trap, read, and learn a little something. Like being able to express a thought using the English language properly. Butthurt, mangina etc. LOL. You sound like a pimple popping prick who just got off momma's fat saggy tit and got on the computer. Why not go play some Bball and not just on play station there big guy. I thinking you're some handicap freak busting balls because you're mad at the world for having to have a lobotomy. LMAO.
westy44cal 1 year ago
LOL I'm a pussy? You keep on doing your fagot core strength movements there "superdog". LOL What a joke. Fuckin' internet warriors are too much. Guys like you really need to eat through a straw for a few months to shut your man pleaser mouths. You have been starting shit with numerous posters in this thread. Your arguments are horrible at best. Your writing skills are even worse than the facts you have presented to back your stupid stance. Butt hurt.LOL. Just listen to your vocabulary tough guy.
westy44cal 1 year ago
Not many, just a couple of bitch asses, crying over the years because Michael beat up on their teams. Otherwise, the man is right. You are in the minority here. Don't believe us, go ask Magic Johnson.
jkoruty 1 year ago
Speak? You mean "Write" you dumb ass. And no, that was not an entire season so that doesn't count. And as for your "he is not number one because this is a teamsport" crap, well, I don't see you focusing much on the Bulls here. You're instead crapping on Mike. Ok, I guess being a dilusional, angry, disgruntled little bitch would be your rightt. But who then, is or has been better than he. Now you have no room to cop out behind this "team sport " garbage. Is this good enough english for you?
jkoruty 1 year ago
@mikenotnumber1 i didn't spend my time badmouthing kobe, cause i admit he's a good player, while u, out of jealousy, making fun of MJ. what makes u think that u have a fair/neutral judging, when u're up against most of the coach/sportswriters? i didn't even reply your comment, but u still have to find any of MJ video to make your point about MJ, but no proof at all. Get a job, get a life!!!
reyelv 1 year ago
Are you purposely avoiding to point out that years coming out of rettirement in the middle of a season don't count or are you too dumb in your Jordan hatred to see that. Ok, typical Jordan hater, you're talking alot of shit. Let's see you back it up with knowledge. If Michael is not #1, than who is and why?
jkoruty 1 year ago
@MN#1shitforbrains... My head hurts trying to read your posts. Try to write in complete sentences "bro", "mangina", before posting. I can hardly even follow what the fuck you're trying to say. What a moron. And citing one bad game here and there in order to down play a whole career is once again a moronic statement. Keep posting because it's a lot of fun for everyone reading when you make an asshat out of yourself.
westy44cal 1 year ago
What the hell are you talking about. Dude, Da Bulls have 8 championships not 6. He just let them bitches have two because he wanted to play some baseball. He may not be God, but if beating up on everyone else in the NBA and literally embarrasing the league earns you a spot in heaven, this guy never needs to go to church.
jkoruty 1 year ago
When is this from?
CyrusTab 1 year ago
Im not saying arguments against MJ being #1 cant be made It's just the weakest argument compared to all players in other sports MJ was the most:complete, athletic, clutch, stylish, trendsetting , iconic, idolized, defensive, offensive, competitive, gifted player. No other athlete had all these things in 1 PKG. I mean MJ even stepped the race lines IMO. Just look at how big BBall got with him there, and Nike, and the Bulls franchise. This is why what he did for 2 yrs with the Wizzards meant 0
westy44cal 2 years ago
don't forget he ran a 4 seconds flat in a 40 yard dash.
christisamust7 2 years ago
He is the only player in sports with possibly "The Great One" that I have seen where 99% of his peers from all different eras are saying he's the best. Just a common sense observation. West, Bob Cousy, Elgin, Magic, Bird all say the same thing MJ was the GOAT. Not even the Babe gets that type of support, or ALI(people will say Tyson etc.). Anyone with a decent knowledge and understanding of sports can see this. I know kids yell Kobe is best but guys who follow BBall know that's not very factual
westy44cal 2 years ago 2
MN#1. Jeez you have some of the worst and most unfounded arguments I have read on Utube and what's even more alarming is you seem to be fairly educated while still achieving such a high level of stupidity. MJ's Wizard career would not matter one bit IMO on his legacy at that point even if he came off the bench and scored 2ppg. You're knocking him and his whole list of achievements because you feel he couldn't bring them to the playoffs at 38-40 yr old? That is your reasoning why Kobe is better?
westy44cal 2 years ago
Lose like what? He wasn't on the court those 2 years that the Bulls didn't win the title. And if you're talking about his earlier years, those Pistons teams were even better than the Bulls teams he played on (Thomas, Laimbeer, Rodman, Dumars). The Wizards teams he played on were nowhere near good enough to win a title. He's not a god. The man won 6 rings all in all, and unlike Horry was the reason his team won, not just riding the coat-tails of others.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago
When you blow up like that and have to resort to personal attacks, it makes you look bad, not me. It shows that you know I'm getting the better of this exchange and you're getting desperate.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago 2
You're the one that can't be taken seriously here, not me. You're the one taking not only an unpopular position, but one hardly anybody else would agree on you with. I don't have to substantiate myself to you, it's to the contrary, and you're arguments are weak. The Rockets couldn't win a title until Jordan left, and were unable to win any more after he came back and won 3 more titles. That evidence is far more compelling than a few regular season conquests.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago 2
u don't have to argue with kobe's bitch. kobe won on his own?the entire world must be blind if he really won it on his own. Hall of famer has said it all, u don't have to listen to an unemployed guy who has a part time job as a kobe's cocksucker. Kobe's a great player, but people like him just make his name bad.
reyelv 2 years ago
That Wizards team was dreadful, and became a playoff team solely because of him. He isn't Christ though, and wasn't able to turn water into wine (win a champ. with them). Actually, I doubt even God could have pulled that one off. If Houston got the better of them in that span in the reg. season, who cares? They couldn't beat the teams the Bulls were beating to get there.
And go look in the record books and note how many times you see Wilt's name... it's ludicrous. Era wasn't "that" weak.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago
You clearly have some kind of agenda against this man, and are completely incapable of being objective about this. Just look at your name for crying out loud. Nothing you say should even be considered valid. If you were to ask 100 people who the best basketball player ever was, you would probably be the only one to give an answer other than Michael Jordan. But I'm sure someone as stubborn as you would maintain that the rest of the world is wrong, and you are right.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago
Shut up hater idiot. 110% of knowledgable human beings think Jordan is the best player ever so get out of here and go idolize Lebran and Kobo and all that shit who are nothing compared to Jordan.................
juandi2570 2 years ago
What do you mean he came back and blew it? He came back and won 3 more championships. Even with the Wizards, that was a horrid team and he turned them into a playoff team single handedly. Any objective person would acknowledge that the Bulls probably would have won those two years if Jordan hadn't decided to pursue other goals. I hated the Bulls, and even I admit it.
Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player that may have an argument about MJ being the best the game has ever seen.
JunmaiShu 2 years ago
Wilt does not have an argument either. He was alot of size and strengh in a league that did not have much of either one. Someone once said that the difference between Wilt and Michael was that wilt was a giant who dominated dwarfs but MJ was a dwarf who dominated giants. I think that was well put.
jkoruty 1 year ago