The real question is...Why do I have to be pro Israel? How is that a key aspect of being a good American? What do we gain from our 'special relationship' with Israel? What have we lost from our 'special relationship'? We've lost an entire decade to war, 4000 dead soldiers about 10 trilion dollars, our standing and respect with the world, we've lost control of our own government, and we are losing our consitutional rights. Shockingly enough i not only dont care about Israel, i fucking hate them.
Id like to thank Glen Beck and other ignorant "goyim" for backing us 100%. As a Jewish American I am stunned at how ignorant gentiles are. We control you and you still suck us off nightly. God bless Israel and god bless the white trash americans who give us carte blanche. Fucking stupid goy...rememeber our Mossads attack on the USS liberty?
Id like to thank Glen Beck and other ignorant "goyim" for backing us 100%. As a Jewish American I am stunned at how ignorant gentiles are. We control you and you still suck us off nightly. God bless Israel and god bless the white trash americans who give us carte blanche. Fucking stupd goy
Gotta get campaign donations in order, to free Congress from AIPAC. AIPAC formally doesn't contribute campaign money, but collects cheques from American Zionists, then DELIVERS the cheques in person to Congressmen and Senators, both Rep and Democrats. These guys KNOW where the cheques are coming from. This technique allows AIPAC to slip by the $10,000 rule for individual contributions.
The same way you have to answer his question... "Would Turkey achieve peace by giving away territory?" Come on, answer the real question. Doesn't Turkey want the whole island of Cyprus? And given a chance wouldn't they just take it? You know what case we have here, the case of the "thief calling out I was robbed..." - the invader of another country calls out "Why do you invade" to Israel... Liar -
There is no "it depends on the context, you idiot." YOU DON'T SUPPORT ISREAL! You don't just let other countries take over territory from our allies. Would you give up Hawaii or Alaska to Russia if they brought us war in order to get peace? No. You are a liberal moron and I can't believe you are on television discussing politics. Oh wait, that was PMSNBC. My fault.
NO NO NO NO NO. The President is NOT allowed to do things behind closed doors. Congress is not allowed to do things behind closed doors. THIS IS WHY WE ARE GETTING RAPED BY THE GOVT. NO TRANSPARENCY. If we don't know what's going on, how can we have an opinion? Like Our opinion even matters anyway. Isreal is our Ally. We need to defend them and make sure they are not destroyed. PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. The only reason there is no peace is because of dictators and terrorists. USA keeps all safe.
@Shawnbo are you high? have you absolutly no knowledge of world history? you do know that half the dictators in the world are there because the US intalled them? or that al-quadi was armed and tought to fight by the US? Peace throught stregth only works because people get sick of death, and people like you are the reason people get sick of death.
Sure, the US considers Israel and ally and wants to make sure that country is safe. Okay, protect them if need be. However, imo that does that does not mean the US should stand with Israel, no matter what it does. If the US government thinks that what Israel is doing can harm the US interests, or the Israeli ones - because a government CAN be mistaken, obviously - it should tell it. If your friend makes a mistake, you tell them. That's the difference between a friend and a flunky.
I didn't it was possible for any female to have a more toxic combination of deceitful b.s./fraudulent sincerity/sickening audacity/and shocking lies than Nancy Pelosi - but Gloria Allred is giving her a run for her money.
More importantly: Perelman is not a scientist, he is an artist. Math is not science. Physics, chemistry, astronomy - these are examples of sciences. Math is art, but it is not explained in schools in the US or Canada, and many other countries for what it is - an expression of an idea, a question and a search of an answer. Math has NO practical purpose in itself, it can be used by scientists of all types because it is a language of description.
When they 'teach' you math and then they 'test' your ability to answer their questions, they do not teach you mathematics at all. They are teaching you to follow examples with some meaningless equations they supplied and to crunch numbers for some unexplained reason. You will not really use this in real life, all of their school examples are contrived.
It's like teaching music by only looking at the notes on paper but never playing anything on an instrument. Of-course you hate it, you don't know what it sounds like. The problem is - your teachers don't know either, they repeat examples from work-books, they were taught the same way. Your school boards don't know what math is, they just want a check mark on paper.
This is very sad. So another reason for Perelman not to take the money?
Simple: he is creating art for himself, that's why he didn't publish it like others would, in a scientific journal. That's why he was able to prove it - he is doing this because this is his way of creating art, he is doing it because it brings pleasure. You think he is torturing himself with math? He is tortured if he cannot answer the question. The answer brought the ultimate prize that money cannot. It is done, so that others would appreciate the beauty of the work.
That is why it was only published in 61 pages and it was not fully calculated and someone else had to calculate and fill in the blanks, the missing 280 pages of calculations. Because that is the art - figuring out the problem, not computing the final result. He figured out the problem and he was DONE with it. It was solved, this piece of art was done, it required no further practical calculations because those are not important (things they teach you in the 'math' class).
You see him as a 'mad scientist' and you missed everything. He is NOT a scientist, he is an artist and he finished his painting. He is not mad, he is emptied, satisfied with the result but emptied.
You don't like math, because you never knew what it is.
LOL @ the guy basically saying "Cenk you're arguing to mean be nice." LOL @ him attacking Cenk's attitude being his only option since he couldn't argue against the points he was making.
Cenk did well here but he needs to control his emotions. I agree what he said about Israel (they get on my last nerve) but he made himself look a bit silly by getting too emotional.
man cenk is usually pretty weak when it comes to criticising israel and doing the right thing....but he brought his A game against this schmuck.........GO CENK!
Hamilton said "History furnishes us with examples of the prevalency of foreign corruption in republican governments. How this contributed to the ruin of ancient commonwealths."
It was never the intention of Hamilton and many others to allow foreign lobbyists. We united to prevent foreign countries from playing us against each other for their benefit.
They already have embassies, let them be happy with that and outlaw foreign lobbyists.
How is Israel our friend: when they spy on us, steal our secrets and sell them to our enemies, use their lobbyists to insight us to a war for their benefit, or their attack on our vessel in international waters?
Cenk, you're so wrong on Israel it's not even funny. One, Carter is a raving anti-Israel lunatic, but you probably were using that point for the irony. Next, Israel ceded land just a few years ago. What happened? Hamas is firing rockets at Israel from that territory.
Israel doesn't allow any international aid or press organizations into the Palestinian camps, some of which hold up 300,000 people in tents and hovels. Why?
Hey TYT army! You can vote more than once a day! Just vote with Internet Explorer, and then vote with Firefox! You can probably use even more browsers... but I've only done those 2. :D
I dont blame Cenk for what happened I blame the producers of CNBC. There is nothing more frustrating than debating someone who is making up "facts". There are plenty of people who are fair minded who could have represented the Israeli side. Unfortunately pro-Isreali commentators keep resorting to twisted logic and facts and this is undermining their position all around the world.
what does isreal Do for the united states that makes them an ally? why are we their #1 ally? if you knew the answer, you'd stop the unquestioned support. its religious.
Jimmy Carter was a terrible President. This dude is nuts. Is the U.S. surrounded by sworn enemies? Canada and Mexico really hate us. This guy is out there, but entertaining nonetheless.
I love TYT but this episode on Perelman (Ana, learn to read letter by letter) was terrible.
Perelman doesn't 'do mushrooms', he, like many residents of St. Petersburg goes out to the parks and the forest near the city actually to collect eatable mushrooms and berries, that is food and it's free, you, goofs. The guy is poor, very poor, he owns a chair and a mattress, that's all, but he is interested in math and you are not, that's why he won this million and you didn't.
He is not taking the money because he does not want to be the center of attention, he said he does not want to be looked at as if he is some sort of a freak, and you are doing just that. He is not taking the money, because he believes that the math establishment is corrupt with people who get ahead not due to their abilities in math but because they have 'people skills', and it's true, and it's a problem.
His ideas were plagiarized and presented as someone else's in the math community and instead of shunning that person, the community rewarded him. So he feels above this and does not want to deal with the math community, yet he solved Poincare conjecture, not to get the money, just because it was an interesting problem to do.
For the people who say Cenk should be more civil, with all due respect, you must be scared and kind of weak. There are degrees of civility and Cenk was certainly within those bounds. Cenk getting heated doesnt mean that it was no longer a civil debate. The only good debates are full of passion from both sides; of course within limits.
Cenk knows what he is talking about, he always has a firm gasp of his position and his reasons for having it.
Explain to everyone, like you did on "mainstream", how the "health care reform" isn't reform like you said.
It's called "controlled dissension", and your starting to look like a "gate keeper" cenk. Maybe it's not the meds, or that you scored high on the schizophrenia scale on your MMPI-2. Just tell the truth, instead of the "mainstream" agenda of yours.
On Cenk's manner and language during that debate; don't over react. Firstly, it was mild by Australian standards; Mainstream US politics are sickeningly polite to me lol. Secondly, the right often use civility and manners, while spewing pure evil, as a device to grab the moral high ground despite the poor quality of their own arguments; don't be fooled. Still, genuine rage deminishes our rationality, and for that reason we need to try and keep our cool when debating lol.
@Tuathalful I agree that it should be acceptable to call a liar a liar, or a lie a lie in this case.
But Cenk should be careful. If he loses his temper and reacts like that he will get less interviews and less exposure. And that's the LAST thing any thinking liberal in America wants. His voice must be heard by as many as possible.
So please tread carefully, Cenk! Apparently Steele can use the word "lie", but not us, yet.
@Tuathalful The other guy's tactics were sickening, though, you are right. Did you note the false "let's grab a beer" bullshit that you get as a reflex response from anyone pretending to be the "better man" in an argument? Petty trick. He doesn't want a beer with Cenk. Get real. Be honest for once.
He had others, too, like the misstating of the opposition position, trying to brand the opposition in such a way as to draw hatred to it ("you HATE Israel", etc.)
Thanx TYT! Great show. The point on the US congress' unquestioning towing of the Israeli government line resonates with me as here in Australia the conservative right wingers want our government to turn a blind eye to Israelis' (prob. Mossad) using fraudulent passports to carry out the recent assassination in Dubai. Of course this endangers all travelling Australians as our passports have been repeatedly used, and may be again, by Israeli spies and assassins. Israel isn't acting as an ally ought
@NathanielFaunce Fuck you and your simpleminded idiocy. Allowing republicans to get away with lying has destroyed more lives than calling a fucking liar a liar. Bush lied and people died.
They left Gaza as well and it doubled the number of rocket attacks. Sadat flew to Jerusalem before Carter was even elected he helped formalize the negotiations but if Ford would have been POTUS at the time the same agreements would have been reached and Carter remains the most inconsequential ineffective leader of the twentieth century.
And the idiot misses the point. Of all the countries in the world, only Israel and the US are allowing (or encouraging) these expansions that hurt the peace conference. All other countries rightly oppose such arrogant and selfish actions.
But to use the other guy's example, how many countries would agree that Turkey should cede Istanbul to Greece? Would even Greece agree? Ridiculous. There is an argument for Palestine, clearly.
The real question is...Why do I have to be pro Israel? How is that a key aspect of being a good American? What do we gain from our 'special relationship' with Israel? What have we lost from our 'special relationship'? We've lost an entire decade to war, 4000 dead soldiers about 10 trilion dollars, our standing and respect with the world, we've lost control of our own government, and we are losing our consitutional rights. Shockingly enough i not only dont care about Israel, i fucking hate them.
lerch25 2 months ago
Id like to thank Glen Beck and other ignorant "goyim" for backing us 100%. As a Jewish American I am stunned at how ignorant gentiles are. We control you and you still suck us off nightly. God bless Israel and god bless the white trash americans who give us carte blanche. Fucking stupid goy...rememeber our Mossads attack on the USS liberty?
newjerseydev 5 months ago
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Id like to thank Glen Beck and other ignorant "goyim" for backing us 100%. As a Jewish American I am stunned at how ignorant gentiles are. We control you and you still suck us off nightly. God bless Israel and god bless the white trash americans who give us carte blanche. Fucking stupd goy
newjerseydev 5 months ago
Gotta get campaign donations in order, to free Congress from AIPAC. AIPAC formally doesn't contribute campaign money, but collects cheques from American Zionists, then DELIVERS the cheques in person to Congressmen and Senators, both Rep and Democrats. These guys KNOW where the cheques are coming from. This technique allows AIPAC to slip by the $10,000 rule for individual contributions.
JohnnyRock2000 6 months ago
The same way you have to answer his question... "Would Turkey achieve peace by giving away territory?" Come on, answer the real question. Doesn't Turkey want the whole island of Cyprus? And given a chance wouldn't they just take it? You know what case we have here, the case of the "thief calling out I was robbed..." - the invader of another country calls out "Why do you invade" to Israel... Liar -
iakovosg 7 months ago
Russian math guy, what a baller
AbtinX 1 year ago
Cenk you are like my fog lights on my vehicle. I can't see through this political bull shit with out you.
baxtar1963 1 year ago
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CENK IS THE MIKE TYSON OF REASON. LONG LIVE CENK. CENK FOR PRES.
baxtar1963 1 year ago
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baxtar1963 1 year ago
@AnimePhreak786 lol politics is corrupt EVERYWHERE. all systems are broken
TheJawsusNSexmanShow 1 year ago
cenk seems like he is anti semitic
rimmel10 1 year ago
Thats another thing I dont like. Seems like if you dont agree with Israel about every single issue....your anti-Semitic. Thats bull.
I guess if you dont agree with every single thing the Catholic Church does you hate the Pope, right?
TheMuffinman421 1 year ago
hey, what do you guys think about The Obama Deception?
dp100 1 year ago
Cenk, you kick ass man.
CorrerPorVida 1 year ago
There is no "it depends on the context, you idiot." YOU DON'T SUPPORT ISREAL! You don't just let other countries take over territory from our allies. Would you give up Hawaii or Alaska to Russia if they brought us war in order to get peace? No. You are a liberal moron and I can't believe you are on television discussing politics. Oh wait, that was PMSNBC. My fault.
Shawnbo 1 year ago
Oh be quiet, Israel isn't a poor little nation. They think they can do whatever they want and Obama is keeping them in check.
Good going Obama .
TheMuffinman421 1 year ago
Why is it that where ever Muslims exist there is conflict. India, Russia, Israel? your faith in Islam will die the day the oil supply depletes.FACT.
and middle east will be another Africa.
rimmel10 1 year ago
NO NO NO NO NO. The President is NOT allowed to do things behind closed doors. Congress is not allowed to do things behind closed doors. THIS IS WHY WE ARE GETTING RAPED BY THE GOVT. NO TRANSPARENCY. If we don't know what's going on, how can we have an opinion? Like Our opinion even matters anyway. Isreal is our Ally. We need to defend them and make sure they are not destroyed. PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. The only reason there is no peace is because of dictators and terrorists. USA keeps all safe.
Shawnbo 1 year ago
@Shawnbo are you high? have you absolutly no knowledge of world history? you do know that half the dictators in the world are there because the US intalled them? or that al-quadi was armed and tought to fight by the US? Peace throught stregth only works because people get sick of death, and people like you are the reason people get sick of death.
CorrerPorVida 1 year ago
Sure, the US considers Israel and ally and wants to make sure that country is safe. Okay, protect them if need be. However, imo that does that does not mean the US should stand with Israel, no matter what it does. If the US government thinks that what Israel is doing can harm the US interests, or the Israeli ones - because a government CAN be mistaken, obviously - it should tell it. If your friend makes a mistake, you tell them. That's the difference between a friend and a flunky.
TheShamanSZ 1 year ago
hey, lay off FireDog Lake i am a very strong member. & supporter. they are more then 100% for the people. God bless them.
unelmitchell 1 year ago
That Russian mathematician could be the next Epic Beard Man!
hootiemack 1 year ago
I didn't it was possible for any female to have a more toxic combination of deceitful b.s./fraudulent sincerity/sickening audacity/and shocking lies than Nancy Pelosi - but Gloria Allred is giving her a run for her money.
RAMKING61 1 year ago
@RAMKING61 but you didn't see all the lies that the republicans had during the Bush admistration from A to Z .
unelmitchell 1 year ago
@unelmitchell Oh they lied, too. It just wasn't as sickening.
RAMKING61 1 year ago
Amanpour is a fucking brilliant Journalist btw
Glenn Beck is Joseph Goebbels re-incarnated
fu3ar25 1 year ago 3
who is Joseph Goebbels ???
unelmitchell 1 year ago
@unelmitchell He was the Nazi Propaganda Minister
fu3ar25 1 year ago
@fu3ar25 Republicans = KKKonservatives
unelmitchell 1 year ago 2
@unelmitchell Brilliant ??? that Nazi , i can see why you have compared him to the Glenn Beck. he must be a KKKonservatve also .
unelmitchell 1 year ago 2
@fu3ar25 brilliant ??? that Nazi propagandist. i see why you compared that KKKonservative to Glenn Beck.
unelmitchell 1 year ago 2
@fu3ar25 you are more then 100% right Amanpour is a brilliant journalist. i love watching everything that she reports.
unelmitchell 1 year ago
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fu3ar25 1 year ago
why u grabbin' me??? lol cenk! i laugh every time u say that.
bellevegasj 1 year ago 2
it only even got heated cause that other frail dude made that bullshit Jerusalem territory comment. all i saw was TYT owning.
jasonwalden 1 year ago
"I don't trust you at all."
EPIC WIN.
dioseolo 1 year ago 6
'giving' away territory you stole? israeli logic.
jsamiee 1 year ago 2
More importantly: Perelman is not a scientist, he is an artist. Math is not science. Physics, chemistry, astronomy - these are examples of sciences. Math is art, but it is not explained in schools in the US or Canada, and many other countries for what it is - an expression of an idea, a question and a search of an answer. Math has NO practical purpose in itself, it can be used by scientists of all types because it is a language of description.
romanmir01 1 year ago
When they 'teach' you math and then they 'test' your ability to answer their questions, they do not teach you mathematics at all. They are teaching you to follow examples with some meaningless equations they supplied and to crunch numbers for some unexplained reason. You will not really use this in real life, all of their school examples are contrived.
romanmir01 1 year ago
It's like teaching music by only looking at the notes on paper but never playing anything on an instrument. Of-course you hate it, you don't know what it sounds like. The problem is - your teachers don't know either, they repeat examples from work-books, they were taught the same way. Your school boards don't know what math is, they just want a check mark on paper.
This is very sad. So another reason for Perelman not to take the money?
romanmir01 1 year ago
Simple: he is creating art for himself, that's why he didn't publish it like others would, in a scientific journal. That's why he was able to prove it - he is doing this because this is his way of creating art, he is doing it because it brings pleasure. You think he is torturing himself with math? He is tortured if he cannot answer the question. The answer brought the ultimate prize that money cannot. It is done, so that others would appreciate the beauty of the work.
romanmir01 1 year ago
That is why it was only published in 61 pages and it was not fully calculated and someone else had to calculate and fill in the blanks, the missing 280 pages of calculations. Because that is the art - figuring out the problem, not computing the final result. He figured out the problem and he was DONE with it. It was solved, this piece of art was done, it required no further practical calculations because those are not important (things they teach you in the 'math' class).
romanmir01 1 year ago
You see him as a 'mad scientist' and you missed everything. He is NOT a scientist, he is an artist and he finished his painting. He is not mad, he is emptied, satisfied with the result but emptied.
You don't like math, because you never knew what it is.
romanmir01 1 year ago
LOL @ the guy basically saying "Cenk you're arguing to mean be nice." LOL @ him attacking Cenk's attitude being his only option since he couldn't argue against the points he was making.
Iceber9 1 year ago
Lol 4:09
Cenk's getting pissed.
Tatchko 1 year ago 2
no country has ever benefited from prolonged war- Sun Tzu The Art Of War
stratagieztv 1 year ago
I'm really greatful for what you do...been watching for a few years...your realy doing a great job
SurreyGirlz 1 year ago 3
Cenk did well here but he needs to control his emotions. I agree what he said about Israel (they get on my last nerve) but he made himself look a bit silly by getting too emotional.
Cutchswife 1 year ago
man cenk is usually pretty weak when it comes to criticising israel and doing the right thing....but he brought his A game against this schmuck.........GO CENK!
hamza1947 1 year ago 6
Who's Zara?
Aidooosh 1 year ago
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And rember we deported Citizen Genet because was "lobbying" for US intervention in the French Revolution.
We should take a cue from Washington and deport foreign lobbyists asking for us to lauch a war, not for our benefit but their client country's.
I don't care if it's Israel, Georgia, Palau or what. The Founders didn't allow that crap and neither should we.
trajan74 1 year ago
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Read the Federalist Papers #22.
Hamilton said "History furnishes us with examples of the prevalency of foreign corruption in republican governments. How this contributed to the ruin of ancient commonwealths."
It was never the intention of Hamilton and many others to allow foreign lobbyists. We united to prevent foreign countries from playing us against each other for their benefit.
They already have embassies, let them be happy with that and outlaw foreign lobbyists.
trajan74 1 year ago
Cenk is right
sciencemunk 1 year ago 3
How is Israel our friend: when they spy on us, steal our secrets and sell them to our enemies, use their lobbyists to insight us to a war for their benefit, or their attack on our vessel in international waters?
trajan74 1 year ago
cenk your saying what we all are seeing
mykmmc 1 year ago
Cenk, you're so wrong on Israel it's not even funny. One, Carter is a raving anti-Israel lunatic, but you probably were using that point for the irony. Next, Israel ceded land just a few years ago. What happened? Hamas is firing rockets at Israel from that territory.
ziggy8392 1 year ago
that was awesome
that loser had no argument & Cenk took him to school
he looked up & saw Cenk dropping a big elbow from the top rope
well done sir
skullface216 1 year ago
Israel doesn't allow any international aid or press organizations into the Palestinian camps, some of which hold up 300,000 people in tents and hovels. Why?
fatouche99 1 year ago
go Cenk, fuck that fool up :)
sergnechaev 1 year ago
LOL, Cenk is a DINO ;D
aaronsande 1 year ago
Hey TYT army! You can vote more than once a day! Just vote with Internet Explorer, and then vote with Firefox! You can probably use even more browsers... but I've only done those 2. :D
YuanMizzle 1 year ago
Cenk pwns on national TV!
erloriel 1 year ago 3
ok thts cool.....................
ibrah68 1 year ago
I dont blame Cenk for what happened I blame the producers of CNBC. There is nothing more frustrating than debating someone who is making up "facts". There are plenty of people who are fair minded who could have represented the Israeli side. Unfortunately pro-Isreali commentators keep resorting to twisted logic and facts and this is undermining their position all around the world.
MohammedAlFathi 1 year ago 3
what does isreal Do for the united states that makes them an ally? why are we their #1 ally? if you knew the answer, you'd stop the unquestioned support. its religious.
hollaboutit 1 year ago
Jimmy Carter was a terrible President. This dude is nuts. Is the U.S. surrounded by sworn enemies? Canada and Mexico really hate us. This guy is out there, but entertaining nonetheless.
daveclrk58 1 year ago
You conviently forgot to mention Isreal giving the Palestianinas Gaza. Get your stuff straight. Peace for land doesnt work.
daveclrk58 1 year ago
When cenk is on fire.. He transforms into a super sayan.
MrBlamemeforit 1 year ago
I think I have a crush on Cenk.
heutenichtundso 1 year ago
I love TYT but this episode on Perelman (Ana, learn to read letter by letter) was terrible.
Perelman doesn't 'do mushrooms', he, like many residents of St. Petersburg goes out to the parks and the forest near the city actually to collect eatable mushrooms and berries, that is food and it's free, you, goofs. The guy is poor, very poor, he owns a chair and a mattress, that's all, but he is interested in math and you are not, that's why he won this million and you didn't.
romanmir01 1 year ago
He is not taking the money because he does not want to be the center of attention, he said he does not want to be looked at as if he is some sort of a freak, and you are doing just that. He is not taking the money, because he believes that the math establishment is corrupt with people who get ahead not due to their abilities in math but because they have 'people skills', and it's true, and it's a problem.
romanmir01 1 year ago
His ideas were plagiarized and presented as someone else's in the math community and instead of shunning that person, the community rewarded him. So he feels above this and does not want to deal with the math community, yet he solved Poincare conjecture, not to get the money, just because it was an interesting problem to do.
romanmir01 1 year ago
Cenk is great.
For the people who say Cenk should be more civil, with all due respect, you must be scared and kind of weak. There are degrees of civility and Cenk was certainly within those bounds. Cenk getting heated doesnt mean that it was no longer a civil debate. The only good debates are full of passion from both sides; of course within limits.
Cenk knows what he is talking about, he always has a firm gasp of his position and his reasons for having it.
Just remember the Howard Beale.
episteme420 1 year ago 2
netanyahoo does not deserve a photo op with the president it would have justified his actions.
cjfilmproductions 1 year ago
Explain to everyone, like you did on "mainstream", how the "health care reform" isn't reform like you said.
It's called "controlled dissension", and your starting to look like a "gate keeper" cenk. Maybe it's not the meds, or that you scored high on the schizophrenia scale on your MMPI-2. Just tell the truth, instead of the "mainstream" agenda of yours.
bigc028282 1 year ago
Why the hell are there always the same number of views?: 309
kenners1201 1 year ago
Epic debate of the Year. Cenk vs Glenn Beck or Rush.
kytomasi 1 year ago
Great Job Cenk. Tell them how it is, "I don't Trust you" and get heated back in these guys faces.
kytomasi 1 year ago 2
On Cenk's manner and language during that debate; don't over react. Firstly, it was mild by Australian standards; Mainstream US politics are sickeningly polite to me lol. Secondly, the right often use civility and manners, while spewing pure evil, as a device to grab the moral high ground despite the poor quality of their own arguments; don't be fooled. Still, genuine rage deminishes our rationality, and for that reason we need to try and keep our cool when debating lol.
Tuathalful 1 year ago 10
@Tuathalful I agree that it should be acceptable to call a liar a liar, or a lie a lie in this case.
But Cenk should be careful. If he loses his temper and reacts like that he will get less interviews and less exposure. And that's the LAST thing any thinking liberal in America wants. His voice must be heard by as many as possible.
So please tread carefully, Cenk! Apparently Steele can use the word "lie", but not us, yet.
aaronsande 1 year ago
@Tuathalful The other guy's tactics were sickening, though, you are right. Did you note the false "let's grab a beer" bullshit that you get as a reflex response from anyone pretending to be the "better man" in an argument? Petty trick. He doesn't want a beer with Cenk. Get real. Be honest for once.
He had others, too, like the misstating of the opposition position, trying to brand the opposition in such a way as to draw hatred to it ("you HATE Israel", etc.)
aaronsande 1 year ago
your so right in canada this is just "heated" are debats before voting are WAY worse then this, maby its because we have PM's lol
bigcaper862 1 year ago
Thanx TYT! Great show. The point on the US congress' unquestioning towing of the Israeli government line resonates with me as here in Australia the conservative right wingers want our government to turn a blind eye to Israelis' (prob. Mossad) using fraudulent passports to carry out the recent assassination in Dubai. Of course this endangers all travelling Australians as our passports have been repeatedly used, and may be again, by Israeli spies and assassins. Israel isn't acting as an ally ought
Tuathalful 1 year ago 4
Cenk was being over the top in that debate. He had a legitimate argument he should have been more civil.
NathanielFaunce 1 year ago
True, Cenk was definitely right but allowed himself to be baited to easily.
kenners1201 1 year ago
@NathanielFaunce Fuck you and your simpleminded idiocy. Allowing republicans to get away with lying has destroyed more lives than calling a fucking liar a liar. Bush lied and people died.
nilbud 1 year ago
@NathanielFaunce lol he was too soft for me
abarai72 1 year ago
Cenk for president :)
morganbath 1 year ago 9
They left Gaza as well and it doubled the number of rocket attacks. Sadat flew to Jerusalem before Carter was even elected he helped formalize the negotiations but if Ford would have been POTUS at the time the same agreements would have been reached and Carter remains the most inconsequential ineffective leader of the twentieth century.
starcatcher2222 1 year ago
"we shouldn't tell israel what to do with their country" but isn't that what the US do with Irak, Iran, China, North korea etc etc
robinvan1983 1 year ago 8
@robinvan1983 Indeed.
And the idiot misses the point. Of all the countries in the world, only Israel and the US are allowing (or encouraging) these expansions that hurt the peace conference. All other countries rightly oppose such arrogant and selfish actions.
But to use the other guy's example, how many countries would agree that Turkey should cede Istanbul to Greece? Would even Greece agree? Ridiculous. There is an argument for Palestine, clearly.
aaronsande 1 year ago
"I don't trust you! I don't trust you at all!"
You fucking GO, Cenk! GO!!!!
You the man now, dawg!
agsiar 1 year ago 23
woah epic debate
LobsterPotsticker 1 year ago 3
TYT is awesome
treid100182 1 year ago 17
Nice, always love the full hour.
PapaMagnum 1 year ago 6