@Jajajawut acctualy the cant of the weapon is a recoil control technique widely used... most of the times is taught to shoot one handed, in this case you use both hands increasing a lot the recoil control... it might be old, but is quite good!!
This debate mirrors the sighted fire/unsighted fire (pick your own experts for either) that's gone on for a LONG time. Simple fact is this: at the ranges that "sudden" gunfights happen at, you'd better be proficient at "instinctive" positions and proficient at using the sights when at longer ranges if need be. Like someone else here said and as I currently do, CAR for CQB, a modified weaver or whatnot for longer ranges. A SHOTGUN OR RIFLE OR TANK if you KNOW you're going into a firefight!
SOLUÇÃO DOS PROBLEMAS DE MARGINALIDADE EM LONDRINA,RANGEL COMANDANTE DO QUINTO BATALHÃO EM LONDRINA AI DEIXA O CARVALHO E O ORLEANS CUIDA DE CAMBÉ, VAI VE SI NÃO RESOLVE OS PROBLEMAS RAPIDIM RAPIDIM KKKKKK
Actually the guys below don't have a clue about they're saying. The vid is just a demo. The target is close in order to see the results more clearly. Like recoil control, for example. If do not had the chance to try it, just know it before say something. That's really an amateur attitude.
you guys have to realize this shooting system was designed to be used in CQC,where weaver stance is not practical due to risk of being unarmed because of extended arms.
@009013M3 something tells me you wouldn't want a proficient shooter to use CAR against you at ANY distance. While it's obviously more suited for CQB, the max effective range of the pistol doesn't change simply by holding it differently. Sight picture + sight alignment + proper trigger pull = a hit, regardless of how you hold the weapon. CAR doesn't change any of these factors and because it lessens felt recoil, follow up shots are MORE likely to be on target.
@markquimby82 I wouldn't want an experienced shooter holding his pistol sideways and thug-swaggering at me, either, because having a gun pointed at me is a bad thing no matter how retarded the stance might be.
SImple geometry states that the farther the front sight is from your eye and the closer it is to the target, the easier target-acquisition will be. Isn't that why holographic sights project an imaginary image 30 feet ahead of you?
THe pistol's range won't change. Yours will, though.
@009013M3 While I agree the farther away ur sights are the smaller you raim is, I think you've missed the point of the CAR stance. It's intended for close ranges & situations typical stances aren't useful. Ex: stacking & entering a door or pieing off a window. Those are hard to do with an extended stance. Nots so with CAR. You don't telegraph in CAR. Sight picture/alignment and your weapon are presented @ the same time. It's also better for firing from a car or @ targets within arms reach.
@markquimby82 I'm having a hard time figuring out how to shoot from a car otherwise without thugging it up, so I can see that application.
Back when I was still drilling with Forest Park though as OPFOR and then getting trained as a thank-you reward, we'd just stack with the point operator about half of arm's length from the point of entry.
Having more options is always a plus though, I guess, because a trained gunner can always switch to a more effective ranged stance if needed.
@009013M3 The only criticism I have of CAR is the use of the weakside eye instead of the weapon side eye for exactly the reason you just mentioned, switching to an extened stance when from the CAR. If you stacked on a door as the point man in CAR and entered only to find yourself in a very long hallway, you'd probably push our to a weaver style stance. The only problem is you are changing your sighting eye in the process which could be problematic if a targe presented itself during the push.
@markquimby82 Yeah... I'm ambidextrous with a pistol but I simply cannot use my weak-side eye to shoot. I'll keep an open-collimator reddot on a high-rise mount on my training rifles so I can shoot strong-eye even patrolling the right flank on weak hand. What worries me most about center-axis is that low-carry position where you're essentially shooting your pistol from the hip. I mean, you might as well... If I shot my 6906 like that I'd be brassing myself in the face.
@009013M3 That's a good point, but I'll take the brass over getting shot if it means I HAVE to shoot from the hip to make sure I get a shot off (like drawing to fire when the guy already has his gun out.) I think the CAR is something to add elements to your toolbox but not replace the other stances commonly used. I enter a rooms/stairwells and pie off windows/doors w/ CAR and I'd use it while seated but as soon as I am in a reasonably expanded area, I switch to a modified Weaver stance.
This training leaves you no sight to the left. Your pivot point is locked and turning left is near death in a bad situation
realworldguninfo 2 weeks ago
the 2nd guy, thats an old trick for revolver control
Jajajawut 5 months ago
@Jajajawut acctualy the cant of the weapon is a recoil control technique widely used... most of the times is taught to shoot one handed, in this case you use both hands increasing a lot the recoil control... it might be old, but is quite good!!
gamba471 5 months ago
as a matter of fact, the SYSTEM has a position called APOGEE to long range shoots using the sights... not shown in most vdeos
gamba471 9 months ago
This debate mirrors the sighted fire/unsighted fire (pick your own experts for either) that's gone on for a LONG time. Simple fact is this: at the ranges that "sudden" gunfights happen at, you'd better be proficient at "instinctive" positions and proficient at using the sights when at longer ranges if need be. Like someone else here said and as I currently do, CAR for CQB, a modified weaver or whatnot for longer ranges. A SHOTGUN OR RIFLE OR TANK if you KNOW you're going into a firefight!
cestrell 9 months ago
SOLUÇÃO DOS PROBLEMAS DE MARGINALIDADE EM LONDRINA,RANGEL COMANDANTE DO QUINTO BATALHÃO EM LONDRINA AI DEIXA O CARVALHO E O ORLEANS CUIDA DE CAMBÉ, VAI VE SI NÃO RESOLVE OS PROBLEMAS RAPIDIM RAPIDIM KKKKKK
GMaria0410 10 months ago
Actually the guys below don't have a clue about they're saying. The vid is just a demo. The target is close in order to see the results more clearly. Like recoil control, for example. If do not had the chance to try it, just know it before say something. That's really an amateur attitude.
spartan080474 10 months ago
you guys have to realize this shooting system was designed to be used in CQC,where weaver stance is not practical due to risk of being unarmed because of extended arms.
sawyerbobby 11 months ago
Well, this explains CAR for me finally...
It really *is* a system designed explicitly to make it impossible to hit a target further away than an arm's length.
009013M3 11 months ago
@009013M3 something tells me you wouldn't want a proficient shooter to use CAR against you at ANY distance. While it's obviously more suited for CQB, the max effective range of the pistol doesn't change simply by holding it differently. Sight picture + sight alignment + proper trigger pull = a hit, regardless of how you hold the weapon. CAR doesn't change any of these factors and because it lessens felt recoil, follow up shots are MORE likely to be on target.
markquimby82 10 months ago
@markquimby82 I wouldn't want an experienced shooter holding his pistol sideways and thug-swaggering at me, either, because having a gun pointed at me is a bad thing no matter how retarded the stance might be.
SImple geometry states that the farther the front sight is from your eye and the closer it is to the target, the easier target-acquisition will be. Isn't that why holographic sights project an imaginary image 30 feet ahead of you?
THe pistol's range won't change. Yours will, though.
009013M3 10 months ago
@009013M3 While I agree the farther away ur sights are the smaller you raim is, I think you've missed the point of the CAR stance. It's intended for close ranges & situations typical stances aren't useful. Ex: stacking & entering a door or pieing off a window. Those are hard to do with an extended stance. Nots so with CAR. You don't telegraph in CAR. Sight picture/alignment and your weapon are presented @ the same time. It's also better for firing from a car or @ targets within arms reach.
markquimby82 10 months ago
@markquimby82 I'm having a hard time figuring out how to shoot from a car otherwise without thugging it up, so I can see that application.
Back when I was still drilling with Forest Park though as OPFOR and then getting trained as a thank-you reward, we'd just stack with the point operator about half of arm's length from the point of entry.
Having more options is always a plus though, I guess, because a trained gunner can always switch to a more effective ranged stance if needed.
009013M3 10 months ago
@009013M3 The only criticism I have of CAR is the use of the weakside eye instead of the weapon side eye for exactly the reason you just mentioned, switching to an extened stance when from the CAR. If you stacked on a door as the point man in CAR and entered only to find yourself in a very long hallway, you'd probably push our to a weaver style stance. The only problem is you are changing your sighting eye in the process which could be problematic if a targe presented itself during the push.
markquimby82 10 months ago
@markquimby82 Yeah... I'm ambidextrous with a pistol but I simply cannot use my weak-side eye to shoot. I'll keep an open-collimator reddot on a high-rise mount on my training rifles so I can shoot strong-eye even patrolling the right flank on weak hand. What worries me most about center-axis is that low-carry position where you're essentially shooting your pistol from the hip. I mean, you might as well... If I shot my 6906 like that I'd be brassing myself in the face.
009013M3 10 months ago
@009013M3 That's a good point, but I'll take the brass over getting shot if it means I HAVE to shoot from the hip to make sure I get a shot off (like drawing to fire when the guy already has his gun out.) I think the CAR is something to add elements to your toolbox but not replace the other stances commonly used. I enter a rooms/stairwells and pie off windows/doors w/ CAR and I'd use it while seated but as soon as I am in a reasonably expanded area, I switch to a modified Weaver stance.
markquimby82 10 months ago
-Fala Rangel!!!!
nice shots!!!
Jerry Silva
jerry357mag 1 year ago
target practicing at 2 feet away lol. thats just a waste of bullets
ChrisRGT 1 year ago
@ChrisRGT No such thing as a waste of bullets unless you're throwing them in a fire for no reason.
AdmiralGST 11 months ago
Grandiose...
rabbi51 1 year ago