"September,11th" by Kseniya Simonova - Ксения Симонова "11 сентября"

[mocfred]

2:00 Black Sea in background?

[rentacopter]

@mocfred I was not going to say anything but you have my curiosity peaked.

What would you have suggested would have been a good "background' or setting?

And what was wrong with using the black sea? I thought it was fine.

[mocfred]

@rentacopter it's ok. ive just wanted to known is that Black Sea? все в порядку

[rentacopter]

@mocfred Oh, I see... I misunderstood you.

I would say from the size of the waves, the coarseness and color of the sand and the proximity of her home to the Black Sea that it is more than likely, the Black see.

[dayati]

@rentacopter @saintchrit after watching the video again and reading her statement about it, I understand where she is coming from. A child's bubble was burst and her worldview forever changed, but the strength of people of coming together helped the child persevere. That is well understood. I still think "world peace" is highly offensive to anyone who didn't live in a bubble as a child. I was born during a war. I never had those fantasies. There are millions out there like me. Consider that.

[rentacopter]

@dayati Again, I think you read more into the art than was intended by the artist and your interpretation is skewed. No people came together to help the child preserve.

I think it is almost every mothers hope for world peace. Nothing offensive about it!

Even as an adult we should never witness these things, let alone a child. Nobody is pretending that there was "world peace," just the hope of it... if only for the sake of the children. No bubble!

Your limeted warped view is ridiculous.

[dayati]

@rentacopter I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'll try to explain it again. You must accept that not everyone has the same childhood experiences, nor the same upbringing. For a child who has never experienced acts of war until 9/11, or war itself, this video is dead on. For someone who was born in a country DURING a war and having never experienced "peace", the concept of a child being blissfully ignorant misses the mark.

[dayati]

@rentacopter ...CONT'D. Then consider the FACT that America has sponsored many conflicts around the world, including the one in my country (which killed over 1 million people). This is all before 9/11. So for me, or anyone who grew up under similar conditions, seeing "WORLD PEACE" written on the Twin Towers, a symbol of the financial power of a country that invests billions of dollars into the business of death and destruction, otherwise known as their military industrial complex, is offensive.

[dayati]

@rentacopter That said, I'm a huge fan of Kseniya. I'm subbed to her channel. I helped spread her work on my blog and through social media. I'm not attacking her in any way. I love her work and I think she's a fantastic artist. My criticism is very small and only has to do with the words "WORLD PEACE" appearing on the Twin Towers before they were attacked. That's it. So please, don't attack me personally or hurl insults my way. I'm just trying to explain another point of view.

[rentacopter]

@dayati Attack you? Hurl insults your way? I USED YOUR WORDS! That's why it sounds so harsh. Just like your criticism. She did not write anything on the towers. They are BLOCKS! If you see her other videos it's a technique of communicating words in a picture artistically. She is saying is that children should not have to grow up like you did, in a war, or a witness to mass murder on television.

You criticize her work because you hate America. Her work is good, you twist it's meaning.

Let it go.

[dayati]

@rentacopter Come on man...the blocks represent the Towers.

And I don't hate America, I hate war.

[rentacopter]

@dayati I agree the towers are represented in the blocks. It's your interpretation that is skewed.

Do you think the rest of the world lives in a bubble? We are all quite aware of what is going on in the world.

I only see you taking offense to the way she told her story. The harsh criticism came from something you brought with YOU... Something YOU carry.

Not something she did.

Her work was Great!

These comments diminish it's meaning for all those who come after you.



[dayati]

@rentacopter Yes, my interpretation is skewed. It's skewed because I had a different life experience. End of story.

Was there world peace before 9/11? For millions of kids, yes. For millions of kids, no.

That's my point.

Do you understand?

[rentacopter]

@dayati You see... That's where you got it wrong!

There was NEVER world peace before 9-11 and the artist never implied that there was!

None of us ever believed world peace existed. It is only the (hope) of it.

[dayati]

@rentacopter Dude....the "hope" of it is what I mean. How can you misunderstand me so many times over and over. Please read more carefully.

[rentacopter]

@dayati OK!

You have no hope of it. That's OK! Now were getting somewhere.

No reason to take offense at the art, much less insult the artist.

That's what I have been trying to say... over and over.

I think we can call it a truce.

[rentacopter]

Oh sorry wheeler1, I meant to direct my comment to dayati.

It appears that some are judging the art with their own preconceived ideas rather than taking the art at face value.

dayati, it is YOU the looks incredibly ignorant.

I see no suggestion by the artist that world peace existed before the attack of 9-11.

And I certainly don't understand the badgering and false accusations of the artist that have taken place in these comments. You people are rude.

Thank you Kseniya for the gift.

[rentacopter]

Wheeler1; I am no art critic but I did not see what you saw. I saw the blocks as a metaphor of life's experiences as the building blocks of life, a mothers 'hope' of world peace to raise her child in. I saw evil dash those hopes to pieces. I felt the shock as the child covered his eyes. I saw the mother comfort the child with love after witnessing the blinding horror. But I notice now the child's view is forever changed. I thought it was a masterpiece.

I hope I live to see world peace too!

[xensand]

Thank you very much for watching and commenting. That is very importaint for me and my team cause this work was a new experience for us - both in the artistic and dramatic aspects. Frankly speaking I don't care whether that was a terroristic act or a political game. Real people suffered.This is the story about that pain, pain of lost, and we hope that there will be no more horror like that with such a number of victims - in any part of our planet.

Sencerely, Kseniya Simonova and Simonova.TV Team

[Destroyerru]

Видео замечательное. Жалко конечно невинных людей. Но никакого терроризма на самом деле не было. Все было подстроено властями сша. А сделано это по понятным причинам, в частности для поступа к ближнему востоку, России, (Европе, Евразии...) укрепится в мире в целом и под предлогом терроризма вести свои черные дела. И это уже давно известно и доказано. Кто не верит в теорию этого заговора, не знаю во что такой человек вообще может верить... так и жить иллюзиями? Без обид. Чистого Разума и успехов

[dayati]

Writing "world peace" on those towers is little ridiculous.

[wheeler1]

@dayati how is wishing for peace ridiculous?

[dayati]

@wheeler1 I didn't interpret it that way. She wrote "world peace" on the twin towers, then apparently the terrorists destroyed the "world peace" that existed before 9/11. WTF? Am I missing something here? I sure hope so.

[wheeler1]

@dayati Just looked it again. I see what you're looking at now (foot-halfway-in-mouth) But, I see what Kseniya was saying too. it represents peace being demolished with the towers.(I think that's accurate)

[dayati]

@wheeler1 I understand what she meant, but it comes off as incredibly ignorant and inaccurate. Did we have "WORLD peace" before 9/11? Key word being "WORLD". The answer is an emphatic NO. Frankly, I'm disappointed that this came from someone like Kseniya, who really should know better. Sudan, Congo, Angola, Colombia, Gaza & the West Bank etc... ask the people living there just how much "world peace" there was on Sept.10th 2001 and then observe the look of sheer confusion on their faces.

[saintchrit]

@dayati In Ksenya's statement about this piece, she mentioned that the attacks of September 11 were aimed to destroy the vision of world peace. This is what she represented in this work; perhaps the message was a bit ambiguous but clearly after a little thought it's obvious that NO prominent artist especially one as intelligent as Kseniya would make a statement about the existence of world peace. Get your hamster rolling before u let your emotions get involved

[golpesar29]

loooool so right before 9/11 there was world peace? dont make me laugh

[ankapmt]

нет слов! как всегда на высоте

[wheeler1]

Short but sweet tribute! Spasibo bol'shoe!

[singplaylaughlove9]

This is so beautiful. I can remember my father calling me that day, and all I could hear was sirens in the background, and tons of noise.

[RostikAviel]

@cloxx those "innocent Arab victims" of yours would have destroyed people like Ksenia first and foremost then pack the art in burka and stone it on soccer field w/joyfull crouds chantig condemnations. All in the names of Allah, Islam and Shariah.

[foomonchu666]

@cloxxki (2) safely say that this is very beautiful, and that i am very appreciative of the story shown.

sure, the wars in the middle east aren't anything to be proud of, nor the innocents lost. would the US be anywhere near the middle east if it weren't for september 11th? unlikely.

excuse my rant, i know not what being out of the country is like, and my country must have brainwashed me.

блестящим видео, спасибо.

[foomonchu666]

@cloxxki : 2000 people died in 2 hours caused by a surprise act of war. act of terror. the video was simply a remembrance of those who died, be it from the assault itself or the firefighters and paramedics trying to rescue them.

however, you're entitled to an opinion. this is likely where you start to say "typical american," if you haven't already. having lived through the terror caused, the fear of not knowing that because i live in a major city whether or not i will see my family again, (1)

[Cloxxki]

I am a big fan of your work, and appreciate the heart you put into it. But I must say, telling of the victims in NewYork, means being silent of the hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed in the Middle East. It's all a big show, performed by the USA who needed a bad excuse for war. As usual. Your art is too pure and beautiful to be used for pro-USA propaganda. The hundreds of thousands of Arab victim's of US war machine need you much more. With love and respect. Loved your Kiev show!

[RentDiffy]

@Cloxxki (1) That's really hurtful. You really think the people of America are only remembering the lives lost on our side on this day? For half of my life we've been at war, and while that has seemed a distant war at times, do not assume I'm a heartless person that has been cheering this process on. It's disgusting and heartbreaking and infuriating but it's the hole my country is in. We're all praying to dig a way out. I understand why most of the world looks at the US with so much disdain,

[RentDiffy]

@Cloxxki but please remember that this country is inhabited by human beings, just like yourself, and we are run by a government. I was 10 years old when this started, and I can tell you that war was no decision of mine. Kseniya Simonova's art is beautiful, and I think she has looked at the bigger picture that we are all human beings and we all feel pain.

[battygirl31]

@RentDiffy While I agree with much of your statement, most of the world does NOT look at the US "with so much disdain." It baffles me as to why so many Americans want to, and seem to enjoy/seem to feel enlightened by allowing themselves to, "acknowledge" that countries don't like the USA. Who do you think anyone in the WORLD would call on to back their asses up if they were in a bind and needed some assistance? Not the Arabs.

[RentDiffy]

@battygirl31 Wow, that's nice to hear. I guess I have that impression because what I hear from people in different countries is most often negative. There may be many people like yourself who don't feel that way, but it seems the more vocal people are the ones with something negative to say. And yes, I do know that the US is a help to many countries, but sometimes it feels like we're just sticking our noses in everybody else's business.

[battygirl31]

@RentDiffy Understandably so but as a world super power, it may be required to stick your noses in everybody's business...  I mean, I feel like a bad day in America (even on the grand scale; economically, politically, etc) is better than a good day in many, many, many other countries in the world... And as far as 9/11 goes, when the USA was attacked, it was not only they that grieved. Many other places, like the UK for instance, felt the blow as well. You are not alone, my friend.

[wheeler1]

@Cloxxki Yes...there a lot of innocent victims on BOTH sides! NEWSFLASH: That's what war does! And, while I agree that we didnt handle it QUITE right (we should have kept going after Bin Laden.the one who actually attacked us! Not Sadam), we have the right to defend ourselves!

[Cloxxki]

I am a big fan of your work, and appreciate the heart you put into it. But I must say, telling of the victims in NewYork, means being silent of the hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed in the Middle East. It's all a big show, performed by the USA who needed a bad excuse for war. As usual. Your art is too pure and beautiful to be used for pro-USA propaganda. The hundreds of thousands of Arab victim's of US war machine need you much more. With love and respect. I loved your Kiev show.

[tchanabc]

I can't say the words amazing, fantastic, and marvelous enough!

[moonrose95]

Oh wow! :O That was seriously breath taking! :O You're amaizing! ♥