I mean, outside of the bible, because that book has many mistranslations and misquotations as well as different versions, not to mention many different branches of believers who interpret it differently, so the bible is not much of a reliable source.
Again, do you have any evidence to back up your claims?
Thunderf00t, I first came across your videos around a year ago. Over this past week I've started watching your "Why do people laugh at creationists?" series again; then I came upon this video and the one about your apendicitis.
I need to tell you: I'm repeatedly impressed with your intelligence, but even more touched by your passion. In every video, the music and images you use ALWAYS provokes in me the emotions you obviously intended. As a mind, a heart and a fellow human being I thank you.
Whoever stated that violence isn't a part of natural human behaviour has no idea of what he's talking about, and must have lived under a rock for like, the entire history of mankind.
it's meant to point out the fact that Kent Hovind tried to censor people who were against his position. In reponse, 127 videos of the video were posted.
Pwned as in, owned in a pwned way and democracy bitches because our democracy was setup so everyone could have their say- and people have shown what they thought of kent hovind.
they're merely playful terms, i'm surprised that you actually are refuting the jokes rather then defend Kent's position.
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i think this video sums up anyone that does not believe! bitch owned lol...says it all! you obviously have a life full of sex, violence and enjoy this! we are all going to die and theres no stopping that! then the debate will end it will either be black or an afterlife. If you actually spend time to read the bible theres alot of truth in there which has happened as it stated before it happend! I used to be a total athiest, then almost died in a fatal car crash..what i saw changed my mind! peace
actually even if there is an afterlife, that afterlife could be: allah, thor, zeus, ... whatever god. or it could even be a god which actually had no religion on earth and created the universe afterall without the dumb need to praise him since his character is strong enough to get along without that. Oh yes, the old 'i used to be an atheist' thing.. should that convince me or anyone? sorry. next time maybe.
Well I also find that there's nothing wrong with violence too... It is part of human nature... But fortunately we have reason and know how to restrict ourselves... We don't have sex with every woman we meet in the street and we don't use violence randomly.. We CAN and ARE using them in a reasonable manner...
Violence isn't human nature! Are you kidding me? If it was human nature, then our schools would be teaching and promoting the idea of violence, that battling your neighbor in a fist fight or verbally is ok even if it's over a simple controversy! If violence was human nature, then punching someone in the face would be more of an accepted way of greeting other than "hello my name is xyz." Think about what you say and what you type before you do so please.
But that's exactly what I'm saying- if violence was human nature, we wouldn't think twice about fighting, because it'd be in our nature to do so. Schools teach correct social behaviors, remember to share your cookies, don't yell at other people, show respect to others and no guns or fighting? Those are rules that are, hopefully, enforced by all schools. If they didn't, then schools would be useless.
It's a big debate if even ''human nature'' exists anyway or we're tabula rassa as John Locke claimed... I don't believe in ''correct'' and ''incorrect'' it's a relative term as is morality... Reason and rational thought is a primal characteristic of humans so it helps us even supress other ''natural'' urgues of us.... Only the fact that we find ourselves wanting to express violently sometimes implies that that characteristic is in factum, even a small portion of our nature...
jojogamer9 - If violence was not a part of human nature there would be no need for the schools to teach correct social behaviors, like don't yell at other people, show respect to others and no guns or fighting.
If we were not a threat to one another we would not have the behaviors that we call manners which are designed to establish restrictive social boundaries to restrain us.
But we are violent when we feel a need to be and peaceful if that serves our purposes better.
"If it was human nature, then our schools would be teaching and promoting the idea of violence."
-No.
-(For example) Human nature is to reproduce as much as possible before you die, as to continue our species and preserve your genes. Do schools teach that? Absolutely not.
Who said schools ever taught children what was natural? Violence is a large part of human nature. No one said it was the first thing we resort to in any given situation.
@jojogamer9 what the HELL are you talking about? fucking everything we find attractive is ALSO animal (that's right) nature. that doesn't mean we are going to teach our children to be whores. have you EVER read a history book? why if something is in our nature, should we automatically embrace it? somethings in this world aren't all rainbows and unicorns and your naivety won't change that.
Thunderf00t you are my hero. Thank you for standing up to these crazy "fooled again" Christians who want us to believe that Noah was a dinosaur rancher. Keep up the good work!!!!
18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
"jninny" thanks for your comment...you are not alone. God is working on these people.
God loves them and no matter how much they use abusive speech some of them want to find the Truth and they are seeking the truth.
Some of them are "bummed" at all the evil and suffering in the world. They don't under stand the human element is fudemental. We are our own worst enemies until JESUS opens our hearts. God has given me love and patience for internet junkies.
abusive speech? does that include using a small quote from somebody(usually dead, its easier with no rebuttle) to portray the exact opposite of their actual beliefs? kent did it all the time, and i would hope you cristians would view this as the "false witness" it clearly is. you can believe what you want as far as creation goes, but telling lies(even if you think its for god) is still wrong.
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My witness is not false because Christ is alive and even the most skeptical when looking at all the evidences for the bodily resurrection of the Messiah came away saying as Thomas the apostle, "My Lord and my God"
Satan! you are a defeated foe and in the Name of the Son of David who made atonement in his blood for this person's sin release him!
You shall worship the LORD-GOD and Him only.
YESHUA conquered you at the cross as the LAMB OF GOD and you know your days are short. The LION of the Tribe of Judah is coming and every eye shall see HIM.
Now I say to you Maltez92 JESUS came into this world to LIGHT every man and to overcome the darkness. REPENT
JESUS said, I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one can come to the FATHER but through Me (his bloody cross, his death, his resurrection) Nothing has changed but world of events are getting closer to His appearing and judgment of the world.
JESUS said, "Follow me and you will not walk in darkness but have the light of life."
You can be in any vocation including science but your vision of TRUTH will change you view of everything you do! It is almost midnight now Nothing is hidden from Him.
god doesnt write books. humans write books. humans are flawed. your book is flawed. your quotes hold only the merit that believers give them, and a rational mind would give them no merit at all.
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If it is such an open and shut case that the Bible has no merit then why do intellectuals, scientists, politicians and people of all the nations believe it. The libraries of the world tell me you are wrong... Rational minds do not ignore the Truth.
the same reason i did for around 18 yrs, my parents told me it was so. and for a few years i also believed in santa clause for the same reason. even christian scientist dont believe in a literal interpretation of the bible. they read it for inspiration, not historical facts. a rational mind seeks evidence to support a claim, it doesnt just pick the most convenient explanation. what libraries are you refering to? not scientific ones, so far as i can tell you've only read one book your whole life.
utubejvs3.. would you bet your health/life on your word? reject scientists medicines in favour of going to the church in your time of need?
I have before, went straight to hospital when at risk of losing my left hand, never prayed at all! Now would you prove your faith by going to the house of god for help?
PROVE YOUR FAITH TO YOURSELF!
So you are same religion as your parents, how did that happen?? chance??
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You say things without knowledged based on limited emperical senses. You don't believe in GOD or the Bible or in Christ's resurrection. There is plenty of intellectual proof to provide a basis of reasonable faith. I directed you to several websites, so?
My parents did not make me a Christian but the influence they had on me was positive but I know Jewish, and Muslims and people from every walk of life coming to the Savior.
Resurrection?...See now we have a problem, it just cannot happen. And I don't need to go to any website to know that. Allow commen sense to prevail when you read something. You know the stuff that means you can use your sane judgement. Just because something is wrapped in a cover saying bible on it, you should allways use common sense. Did I love my parents? yes and without the need for religion. Guess what I also have morals and empathy for others without religion.....SUPRISE!
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"Guess what I also have morals and empathy for others without religion.....SUPRISE! "
No I am not suprised that you cater to self survival and desire a community of likeminded
people.
Without God however all things are permissable. An "atheist" will be a sack of bones 1000 years from now and be no different than a murderer or rapist and pedophile. Right.
On the day of your death you will be dressed up with NO PLACE TO GO. (keep thinking Chris the Light may turn on one day) Bye I am out!
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God uses many things to bring people to their senses. But what led me to faith was the WORD of GOD. It makes no difference if you believe it Chris. It is alive and powerful and it cuts to the heart of our motives and discerns our thoughts. I spent 5 years in the mission field, medical field, and the insurance business. The only vaccine that will cure your imminent death is the turning to Christ. Again you are blowing smoke son.
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No Chris I was on a LSD trip in 1969 and saw heaven and hell and God led me to investigate the Bible. I was a surviving Viet Nam veteran. That was 40 years ago and spending at least 10 of those years in universities and colleges.
Are you so sure son of yourself?
Try looking around allaboutGod . com and look on the left side under the title:
Is the Bible true. That is if you have the courage to face your fears.
LSD trips lead you to god in 1969 the year I was born. Well that probably is not such a credible way to find god.
You say you spent 10 years in universities and colleges? doing what? teaching bible studies, biology instructor, or logistics?
Am I sure of myself well yes actually I bet my life on it by accepting vaccines designed by virologists that take advantage of the fact we have an EVOLVED immune system, drugs tested on animals with a similar immune response.Can you reject vaccines and pray
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
One thing religious freaks forget is that life is NOT that unique when the right conditions are by luck, there.
We have found life in places we thought neverb possible, a camera returned after 2 years approx in space was found to contain bacteria sneezed in by an assembly technician, later grown in a lab the bacteria survived. I have seen mould grow in a radar cooling system where the water was so pure it didn't conduct electricity, this mould took approx 6 months to grow, no light, food?
haha love it 127 reposts in a day very cool! well done to all and many thanks, Religion should not be allowed to stop our best minds/scientists from improving life.
The religious should show a little more respect to the people that develope the technology and medicine they take for granted every day!
Without our top scientists we would be living as we did 4000 years ago!
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You lack common sense. Christians and Orthodox Jews are not some strange tribe hiding in the bush. They are in every walk of life and many are in the sciences and science in the begining were developed by religious men that knew the universe was predictable because GOD is the Creator.
Scientism is not true science but is a form of fig leaves that tries to explain away God because His light reminds us of our sins.
Bacon, Newton, Pasteur...
Yale, Harvard, Oxford started outwith Biblicalroots
We are in danger of losing our grip on the concepts of truth, evidence, objectivity, disinterested inquiry. The preposterous environment in which academic work is presently conducted is inhospitable to genuine inquiry, hospitable to the sham and the fake. Encouraging both envy and resentment of the sciences, it has fed an increasingly widespread and articulate irrationalism. Scientism is anti or pseudo science that avoids critical thinking.
Magic is the new Neo-Darwiniac term for something made up or fair tale, untested but not real science. Now let me ask you what magic have you swallowed? Abiogenesis?
Macro-evolution? Do you know that these are unobservable and the magic code word used is time. Unfortunately time does not provide information. Information in the design of all things demands very specific intelligence.
Sorry but Dawkins so far has failed the test of life. Are you sure you want to follow him into eternity?
If anyone would like to speak with Eric Hovind or Creation Science Evangelism (CSE) their telephone number is toll free 877-479-3466 (ext 468 For Eric Hovind)
Please spread the word and call in. # 877-479-3466 TOLL FREE
Actually there's a very small range of disagreement in physics and biology. There is a consensus life evolved, the arguments are over the 'how' it evolved. In physics there's almost no disagreement other than in fields like string theory.
And we have found things man has recorded over 6000 years old, The neolithic settlement Skara Brae in Northern Scotland is thought to be about 7-9000 years old.
And you still haven't said anything about radiometric dating which we know to be accurate.
For a mutation to happen no new molecules are needed because there are only four chemicals which make up DNA. If you look at a strand they are represented by T,D,G and A and the information DNA carries can be completely changed by rearranging them. It sounds like DNA should be simple, but there are 3 Billion of these chemicals in each string of modern DNA or RNA. Now the first life would have been very simple and short, RNA strands formed out of proteins and adedine reacting.
There is nothing simple about DNA and its role. Who wrote the programming? You haven't a clue! You can state it as loud and definitive as you want but DNA does not prove man came from simple molecules to man over billions of years. That is your religion not mine. Each animal has a common ancestor but it is a forest of many unrelated species not a tree. You can't see it but you do everything to suppress it but your system of "scientism" will fail because your foundation is in error.
DNA isn't simple, but it isn't beyond our grasp. If each animal has a common ancestor but those are seperate from a universal common ancestor, why do we share DNA in a manner exactly consistent with the Phylogenetic predictions?
What would it look like if evolution were true? What would we see now that we don't? What if your foundation was neautral, what would a world made by evolution look like?
Not beyond your grasp..hey? Try creating something that lives without using living material! I do not see evolution at all.
What would creation look like if true and GOD judged the earth and all realms of nature due to man's sin? You would see the teleology of His design and distinct creature with similar body systems for our world and a unique biosphere for life. You would see provision for man and animals in the way of food and water.
I don't think you answered my question. What would it look like if evolution were true. What would you need to see in order for you to say "wow, that might have some truth to it."
If evolution were true and a process as described by most of its enthusiasts we would have more species developing all of the time.
We would see many transitional species and more mutations of sorry looking creatures that are not whole. We do not see this ugly picture. There are some mutation but few.
Every specie is whole, complete and suited for live and survival overall. There are many variations within a species of a kind but distinct from all other major kinds and or species. God is!
You don't understand how evolution works. We have sorry looking creatures born all the time (two headed snakes, ect) but they die off. They don't reproduce. The best fitting creature of each population does.
The Playtpus is an example of a living transitional species. They have just decoded its genome and found it has reptilian and mammalian characteristics.
Check out the wikipedia entry on transitional fossils.
NO WE WOULDN'T because evolution happens over MILLIONS or BILLIONS of years. Think of how long a year is, then a millenium and you are off the time scale we are talking about by a factor of a million!You also assume that because something looks complicated it can't possibly be formed by basic composite particles reacting to form more and more complicated structures. You attempted to refute ONE of my statements without using any evidence against it. What about retroviruses or radiometric dating?
"You also assume that because something looks complicated it can't possibly be formed by basic composite particles reacting to form more and more complicated structures."
No I do not assume anything. You assume that the information needed to design and implement the genetic code did not need a mind. Somehow time, that you can not prove is 'your god' and 'unguided random mindless chance' was the second person of your trinity.
The third person is YOU as the interpreter of life. You an idolater
It is unguided but not random, there is only one path because any organism without beneficial traits will not live long enough to reproduce and pass negative traits on; so we know that most inherited traits are beneficial.
And I can prove that there was enough time with radiometric dating. The stars, the stars millions of light years away, all of them prove there was enough time.
And you assume the Bible to be true. And I don't assume, I know for a fact that magnets don't have a mind.
Knowing one field of understanding does not prepare you for eternity. I do not assume the Bible is true. God has left His signature all over the Scriptures in fulfilled prophecy and current events going on today. The greater purpose of life leads back to the Source of Life. God loves you personally He does not want you to remain in the darkness and futiliy or your unrepentant mind. In Christ are hidden the deepest mysteries of life. Search
These 'mutations' happen between generations. Now each generation has.. maybe 15-30 years between the next one.. and theres only the slightest change if any change.
That's why it has took organisms Four billion years to get where they're at(not 6000 years).
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PROGRAM MOLECULES! They ALWAYS react in a predictable manner! ALWAYS! You will never start a nuclear reaction by burning potatoes, you will never have a situation where petrol doesn't burn when you light it! You don't need to program particles to attract eachother because of the forces which attract them anyway. How a chemical will react can be calculated using the standard model, if you put the data from the model into a computer you can find out why DNA is the shape it is!
Oh is that so...if you believe that you are ignorant beyond belief. Who designed chemistry and physics? You speak in circles because you want to deny the very source of life. Was your computer that you use to study DNA the random mindless product of time?
Is there a force which will pull the pieces of my computer together over time? NO! Is my computer incredibly simple? Are there only three types of working parts to it? NO! Chemicals are all made up of three types of particles, two varieties of quark and an electron. There are a few others floating about but for all intents and purposes they are made of nothing else. If another chemical other than a noble gas comes along and they have enough energy they will react; there is no question about it.
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You are incredible. If your girl friend bought you a gift would you analyze the method the gift got from, the store, to your home to your table? Would you not understand
her love motive or display of affection?
God gives you light, warmth, food galore and the ability to breath and all you can do is say that each life form is a simple movement of 3 elements being 'drawn together'. Scientific discovery is fine but trying to eliminate GOD is sheer stupidity and it was not me who said that...
Still don't see a sentence of radiometric dating but whatever; I wouldn't need to analyse how a gift got to my table because I'd probably already know and it wouldn't be very helpful and it wouldn't let me find how other gifts get to other places with 100% certainty... you get the picture; it isn't the same thing.
How many are your works, O LORD! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures.
Psalm 111:10
To understand science a little leads men away from GOD...when men or woman study science in more detail they are amazed at the works of GOD and bow theirs knees before Creation.
paraphrase of Loui Pasteur
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.
Chris your name is derived from Christian a follower of Christ or Christ likeness.
What you misunderstand is that the planet is in its condition because of the judgement of sin.
It effects mankind and nature. Fallen man is spiritually dead. A materialistic view of life does not have the answers for you. Oxford started out as a Christian Bible centered University. Your hostility and arrogance can be forgiven.
take a look around at allaboutgod . com and you will find some answers.
Yes I will rant on and on if I can by the love of God help one person like you from making an eternal mistake of disregarding and missing the pardon of Jesus Christ.
see christiananswers . net
This silly Christian believes you are worth saving from eternal darkness and judgment.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
You look for objections without thinking things through. God delivered the children of Israel from slavery. Christ died to set all men free spiritually. He did not instigate war in slave ridden countries but the very catalyst that has impacted the end of slavery the most is Christianity. So why are you a slave to sin (independent self centeredness and breaking God's Laws in thought and deed)
So would you bet your life on the word of the bible and reject medicines designed by virologists based on our evolved immune system that has common links with other animals with which we test those drugs, in favour of betting your life on prayer and your god helping you when you need it most?
It is an easy choice, go to a church instead of a hospital.
In my time of need I went straight to hospital and hoped the skill of a doctor could save my hand. He did, no church required.
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My soul is in surrender to Jesus Christ to cover my sins with His atoning blood. I am ready to die when that day comes. All the doctors in the world will not save your soul. As far as your arguement Chris I have say it as politely as possible it is assnine. You should know better. The whole Hospital and University movement came about through Christianity and missions.
Most Christians love science and medicine and true relief to the human race. You are making a big jump that does not exist.
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Sorry Kent Hovind may have some tax problems but overall he is a real man and a very wise man. This video by Thunderfoot is like pop culture but in the end it really has no substance. In the beginning GOD Created...
You will all meet HIM so get use to the fact.
Party now but learning respect for GOD is the beginning of true wisdom. Take Care of Yourselves...the seas are about to get a little rough and the outlook on the horizons of our times is ominous.
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Jesus said, you shall know the Truth and the truth will set you free. He also said,
I Am the Way the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Me. He died as the Prophet Isaiah said he would and arose from the dead. I have had the peace of God for some 40 years right after returning from Viet Nam. The Lord Jesus is my best Friend
and He is working in my life to share His love and forgiveness with you. Who is trapped in a box? Are you are more sure of truth than JESUS?
You are more sure of a 2000 year old archaic text than biochemistry, genetic science, DNA, radiometric dating, the Standard Model, Quantum mechanics, evidence of retroviruses, nuclear fusion, nuclear fission, strong nuclear force, electro-weak force, gravity, the expansion of the universe, the speed of light, the fossil record, fossil fuels, the sun burning, the stars burning and all the competent scientists in the world?
Because Kent Hovind (the convicted fraudster) sure is!
I am sure of this bluecode320 You do not know the Bible Code and you do not understand fulfilled prophecy written thousands of years but before and nations and the people written about existed. That is God's challenge to you. Read the book of Isaiah chapter 44-53.
You will see things written of the Christ that were to be fulfilled in His first and in His now second coming. Science is not always correct in its conclusions. You will see soon. Isaiah lived 700 BC !
And at the moment the world's top physciscts are so confident in the Big Bang theory that they have built the Large Hadron Collider at a cost of 20 years of work and $6 BILLION. The collider will give an idea of what the first few seconds after the Big Bang were like and will help to complete the standard model.
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All of you observers I cordially invite you to see the movie of the year by Ben Stein,
"EXPELLED". Then ask yourself why intelligent high educated scientists both men and women are rejecting evolution as fact? I wish all of the very best in life of love and happiness for time and eternity. Even if you are an atheist or agnostic the movie will be mind expanding or just make you chuckle. Enjoy! Seek the Truth and someday we will shake hands and be friends. Freedom of the intellect is cool!
Intellectual freedom is great, indeed its very important to the scientific process, but Expelled has little or nothing to do with that, its an attack on science by creationists because they're upset that their idea which lacks sufficient evidence to warrent scientific merit, is discarded by the vast majority of scientists.
Obviously you did not see the movie or you did and are ignorant of what is going on in the academic community. "Concensus" is not evidence nor does it mean that all of the questions and answers are known.
Darwinian Macro Evolution has never been seen and can not be observed or tested. Don't reply with the same dismal answer of common descent of a common ancestor or homologies of all the species. That is conjecture, extrapolation but it is not evidence or good science. PERIOD
Well! I am glad you think that stating "PERIOD!" in a loud voice makes your ignorance "factual", but in the real world - you know, the one where Jesus doesn't exist? - it doesn't work that way.
Evolution is a fact. Live with it. If you refuse to accept science, then please...When the cures for diseases from the study of genomics start to flow, keep out of line for the cures.
You can have fun dying and going to heaven then anyways, right?!
You are wrong. The evidence for evolution is very clear. I am a scientist. In my own research, I find homologous proteins in non-human animals and use them to make inference about proteins involved in human cancer. The relationships between us and the rest of the animal kingdom is blatently obvious to me. It would be easy to refute evolution - a breastfeeding bird, a mammel with a one-way lung system or feathers, rabbit fossils in precambrian strata, the list goes ever on.
Yes we have a common DESIGN because we have a common DESIGNER but the species to not cross over into other species. No one is against good medicine and good research that provides relief from human suffering but DME has nothing to do with it.
I hate it when creationists have absurdly high standards for evolution (which can be satisfied if only they took their hands of their eyes) whilst believing in ridiculous things without even a shred of evidence; mary being impregnated by god, jesus coming back from the dead, man being made from dirt.
Evolution is not abiogenesis. Abiogenesis is a highly speculative field. Evolution is not speculative, it is a fact. Once a self-replicating entity exists, then life can evolve. This is what happened, leaving imprints of this process in its wake - imprints which have been studied and which all fit nicely within the evolutionary theory. This has nothing to do with the origin of the prime replicator.
Yes self replicating also means variation due to a loss or non use of all of the information. But each major species can only use the information provided. Mutuation nor any other process produce a wholly new superior species. Other wise you see new species (nor variations of one that exists).
No the Earth and the original species are wearing down due to the laws of thermodynamics. Only Christ can reverse the that and bring back the restoration of the Earth. I wish you life & all the best
Wrong. A bacteria in Japan recently evolved a COMPLETELY NEW gene for digesting nylon. Evolution CHANGES genes, so is not restricted by whats already there. "the Earth and the original species are wearing down due to the laws of thermodynamics" - your talking bullshit. What do you mean by information? Technically its measured in bits where 1 bit is needed to half the uncertainty. I don't see how its realted. I have no religion. I'm certain about nothing, but base my beliefs on evidence.
Sorry if you are upset. If you are open to listening to a season scientist who is now passed away explain the bianry algorythms of DNA and why it is not simple nor by accident go and Google Dr A. E. Wilder-Smith and see his audio and video libray and listen to the college lecture series. By the way I am not religious either. I have a relationship with God through His Son. He is true to HIS WORD.
Just be open to the truth and let your real heart and conscious lead you. Be well.
Statistics mean absolutely nothing. According to statistical thermodynamics - again - everything is infinitely improbably, but EVERYTHING must eventually exist in a state. DNA is the state of amino acids coming together.
We are letting our real conscious lead us, and unlike you...We're not willing to lie for a belief. We are honest and scientific. We use facts, not dogma. We wish to educate, you wish to DESTROY.
We've already explained this to you and explained why you are wrong. Yet you continue to spout your lies.
What a good Christian you must be.
Mutation, genetic drift, gene fusion/splitting etc all cause "new information". A mutation BY DEFINITION is having information there now that was not there before, or was there is a different state and has mutated to another state.
Quit lying, please.
The only species "wearing down" is...Uhh, the Cheetah, due to inbreeding? Everything else is FINE!
Since you want to talk about abiogenesis, I will tell you why its a better explination than postulating a creator. In living things, molecules have affinities for each other. I believe that a compound formed from some of the trillions of molecules on one of the billions of planets in one of the billions of galaxies, in what we call the primordial soup. This molecule had a physical interaction with other components of the primordial soup, in such a way that it catalyses the formation of itself...
...possibly by forming a template of itself. Both of these molecules self-replicated further, will occasional variations due to their lack of specificity. As they proliferated, some variations better at self replicating and evolution takes it from there. There is no MAGIC, as you call it. I have no evidence of this, but unlike your position, it creates complexity from simplicity, without involving something AT LEAST as complex as what it is trying to explain. Where did your god come from?
Unproven hypothesis the is unteniable considering chance does not provide information nor the enity that produced the information. Like I said Scoop it is your religion or fig leaves to hide from GOD.
There is nothing magic about the chemicals that make up DNA coming together. Like all chemicals, those amino acids have attractions. The fact that they came together is of no surprise. The chances of it happening could be 10 to the trillionth power and it WOULDN'T MATTER because it happened anyways. According to statistical thermodynamics, ANY configuration is infinitely immprobable, but alas, everything MUST exist in a state. DNA is the existence-state of those amino acids coming together.
I have read your blather and typical NDE arguements. The obvious is looking in the mirror at you. Believing in DME is an act of the will and your philosophical presuppositions not true science. If you think you're right the debate about Creation and ID should never come up again right? WRONG BECAUSE EVEN THE MOST ARDENT EVOLUTIONIST SEES PURPOSE AND DESIGN IN THE HEAVENS AND THE LIVING SPECIES ON EARTH.
They are clueless HOWEVER as to how it got there in such grandeur and splendor. Bye!
The "debate" is only coming up because creationists are forcing our hands. There is no debate in the scientific community. Evolution is just as true and the Earth going around the Sun. However, creationists are trying to shove their BS in schools, and we can't allow schools to teach ignorance. Our children will grow into adults who are stupid.
I see no purpose in the Universe nor the Earth. We're merely here. We exist.
"I see no purpose in the Universe nor the Earth. We're merely here. We exist.""
This defines who you are but it is not YOURS to tell what the purpose is but GOD's and you can't reason it but it must be reavealed to you. It is revealed in the Holy Scriptures.
I understand you do not accept the Bible as Truth but that does not mean it is not true.
You have not looked at the evidence but it is there. The same GOD who designed Physics, Mathmatics, Gravity and Chemistry made spiritual laws.
Until you can prove there is a God, my point remains valid. Since God will never be proven (considering he doesn't exist) and couldn't even if he DID exist, due to the fact that even "God" has claimed it's all on faith...Your "point" will never be valid. Ever.
I've done plenty of research on both sides, and I used to be a Christian myself. Please do not insult me by claiming I "haven't done research" just because I do not agree with your OPINION on the Universe.
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"Since God will never be proven (considering he doesn't exist) and couldn't even if he DID exist,"
Yes it is a matter of faith but that does not mean the grounds for believing are not substantial.You claimed you were a Christian? What made you a Christian; on what basis? CS Lewis who wrote many books was an atheist and evolutionist until he was born again. You aught to read Mere Christianity but by your attitude I doubt you will. If you want to stay in a purposeless existance you can.
I missed the part where my existence was meaningless just because you say so? Existence itself doesn't have a PURPOSE, but that doesn't make it meaningless. We're here now and we find our own meanings in things we like. Things we like are usually things Christian's want to go away...like science!
On what grounds was I a Christian? Geez, I dunno', the grounds that I professed Jesus as Lord and believed in him? Stupid question.
What you're implying is that I was a "false convert". How typical.
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Yes you are typical. You make the very proven false assumption the Christians are against science. False! They don't believe for both Biblical and scientific reasons in Macro Evolution. Professing the Christian faith does not make you one. If you were not born again and having had a Spiritual transformation.
Purposeless by definition is a lack of meaning. You have made your life meaningful
without the PURPOSE GOD intended. Yes I do understand. Be well.
What scientific reason allows you to deny evolutino exactly? I'd love to see it so that I may also be "enlightened". Please, do tell us all. Better yet, write a paper and submit it for peer review. You'd like win a Nobel Prize if you proved evolution to be false. What're you waiting for, hmm?
How am I typical? I was a Christian, and since I am no longer, you did the typical thing by denying I ever was - something you couldn't POSSIBLY know.
I see the evidence for evolution every day. I am a scientist working in cancer research. Many proteins have been studied in atomic detail in many species. Some of these have cancer-related homologues in humans which have not been so well studied. I can study the homologous process in humans and its role in cancer. Telling me that evolution is false, when I see and use evidence to the contrary on a daily basis, is like telling an electrician that everything he knows about wiring is a lie.
What do you define as evolution? Types of cancer cells or similarity in proteins does not prove that one kind of species crossed over into a wholey different species. Macro-evolution is not a fact and it is not happening today nor has it ever happened on planet earth. The extrapolation of homologies only shows us that in our environment for life the Creator used similar designs in harmony with biogenesis of life.
Evolution by natural selection. Looking at homologous proteins (eg haemaglobin) in say, human, chimpanzee, mouse and chicken. In decreasing order of sequence similarity to human, they go: chimp, mouse, chicken. This is exactly as evolution predicts. The closest homologues are those of creatures that split off from the human path on the phylogenic tree the most recently. The most distance homologues are for species that have been on a path divergent from our own for the longest...
"The closest homologues are those of creatures that split off from the human path on the phylogenic tree the most recently."
When you say "split off" you are making an assumption that has never been seen or observed in the major species groups.
In other words the fossil records show no such event of gradual change. What came before a chicken or after a chicken that can be proven? This is my problem with these interpretations of homologies that go too far.
The creationists/fundamentalist Christians don't want a Democracy. They want a fascist Theocracy.
JONATHAN1984ATHEIST 2 years ago 9
I don't believe Kent Hovind is actually a creationist. I just think he's pretending to make money.
Wallyrus 2 years ago
Kent Hovind is the best evidence that we came from primitive apes there is. Seeing you speak Kent makes me realize that God is dead.
eaglefort 2 years ago 3
I enjoy reading the comments of these stupid Christians saying that Thunderf00t's videos have no substance and he's the actual stupid one.
Look at him now.
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manasseh41 2 years ago
@manasseh41
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?
I mean, outside of the bible, because that book has many mistranslations and misquotations as well as different versions, not to mention many different branches of believers who interpret it differently, so the bible is not much of a reliable source.
Again, do you have any evidence to back up your claims?
IAmTHEFreak1936 2 years ago 5
@manasseh41 did you just make this is up as you went along, or is there a reason to believe this?
holdenbane 1 year ago
holdenbane, Please copy and send me the comment you're reffering to. as I have no access to it. all I see is a removed comment from 2 months ago.
manasseh41 1 year ago
Thunderf00t, I first came across your videos around a year ago. Over this past week I've started watching your "Why do people laugh at creationists?" series again; then I came upon this video and the one about your apendicitis.
I need to tell you: I'm repeatedly impressed with your intelligence, but even more touched by your passion. In every video, the music and images you use ALWAYS provokes in me the emotions you obviously intended. As a mind, a heart and a fellow human being I thank you.
micheltow 2 years ago 17
i completely agree with that, well said
PopUpCrewHL 2 years ago
I share a similar experience and firmly concur.
LtZerge 2 years ago
@micheltow Me too
justinjiang 1 year ago
Whoever stated that violence isn't a part of natural human behaviour has no idea of what he's talking about, and must have lived under a rock for like, the entire history of mankind.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
boob u spelt it right this time... mwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
RAGHUVARVASUDEV 2 years ago
retarded punks=retarded videos
tonymers 2 years ago
another 5/5
TheFlST 2 years ago
anyone know what song this is?
JJarv213 2 years ago
Big Mistake by Natalie Imbruglia.
LordMacBeth79 2 years ago 3
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WOW! You sure showed him! What a fucking worthless video.
Recoil816 2 years ago
he's no einstein
robew69 3 years ago
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" Welcome to democracy Bitches. "
Huh ?
Sheesh, what an idiot.
sediment5 3 years ago
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"pwned"... "bitches"... yeah that crap in the title gives me a whole lot of confidence in the accuracy or merit of this video...
CiscoWes 3 years ago
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Me too CiscoWes.
Seriously, didn't the person who posted this, Thunderf00t, realise his stupidity ??
Apparently not.
sediment5 3 years ago
it's meant to point out the fact that Kent Hovind tried to censor people who were against his position. In reponse, 127 videos of the video were posted.
Pwned as in, owned in a pwned way and democracy bitches because our democracy was setup so everyone could have their say- and people have shown what they thought of kent hovind.
they're merely playful terms, i'm surprised that you actually are refuting the jokes rather then defend Kent's position.
jojogamer9 3 years ago
Dude, this song is amazing who sings it?
humanpotential7 3 years ago 2
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i think this video sums up anyone that does not believe! bitch owned lol...says it all! you obviously have a life full of sex, violence and enjoy this! we are all going to die and theres no stopping that! then the debate will end it will either be black or an afterlife. If you actually spend time to read the bible theres alot of truth in there which has happened as it stated before it happend! I used to be a total athiest, then almost died in a fatal car crash..what i saw changed my mind! peace
s3ansk1 3 years ago
actually even if there is an afterlife, that afterlife could be: allah, thor, zeus, ... whatever god. or it could even be a god which actually had no religion on earth and created the universe afterall without the dumb need to praise him since his character is strong enough to get along without that. Oh yes, the old 'i used to be an atheist' thing.. should that convince me or anyone? sorry. next time maybe.
Valvallaria 3 years ago
"you obviously have a life full of sex, violence and enjoy this!"
How do you come to that conclusion?
"you actually spend time to read the bible..."
...then you'll find it's full of violence
Nothing wrong with sex of course; violence on the other hand...
bluecode320 3 years ago 2
Well I also find that there's nothing wrong with violence too... It is part of human nature... But fortunately we have reason and know how to restrict ourselves... We don't have sex with every woman we meet in the street and we don't use violence randomly.. We CAN and ARE using them in a reasonable manner...
ItachiRaikiri 3 years ago
"We CAN and ARE using them in a reasonable manner"
I agree; but fundamentalists generally try to pretend that consentual sex is a bad thing. It's not
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Violence isn't human nature! Are you kidding me? If it was human nature, then our schools would be teaching and promoting the idea of violence, that battling your neighbor in a fist fight or verbally is ok even if it's over a simple controversy! If violence was human nature, then punching someone in the face would be more of an accepted way of greeting other than "hello my name is xyz." Think about what you say and what you type before you do so please.
jojogamer9 3 years ago
''If it was human nature, then our schools would be teaching and promoting the idea of violence''
Since when schoosl teach and promote whatever is part of human nature.... And have you ever heard of a term ''self-control''??
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But that's exactly what I'm saying- if violence was human nature, we wouldn't think twice about fighting, because it'd be in our nature to do so. Schools teach correct social behaviors, remember to share your cookies, don't yell at other people, show respect to others and no guns or fighting? Those are rules that are, hopefully, enforced by all schools. If they didn't, then schools would be useless.
jojogamer9 3 years ago
It's a big debate if even ''human nature'' exists anyway or we're tabula rassa as John Locke claimed... I don't believe in ''correct'' and ''incorrect'' it's a relative term as is morality... Reason and rational thought is a primal characteristic of humans so it helps us even supress other ''natural'' urgues of us.... Only the fact that we find ourselves wanting to express violently sometimes implies that that characteristic is in factum, even a small portion of our nature...
ItachiRaikiri 3 years ago 7
jojogamer9 - If violence was not a part of human nature there would be no need for the schools to teach correct social behaviors, like don't yell at other people, show respect to others and no guns or fighting.
If we were not a threat to one another we would not have the behaviors that we call manners which are designed to establish restrictive social boundaries to restrain us.
But we are violent when we feel a need to be and peaceful if that serves our purposes better.
Most of us at least.
virago1776 2 years ago 4
Schools are not supposed to teach morals.
What, you think this is the early 20th century or something?
Hjernespreng 2 years ago 4
"If it was human nature, then our schools would be teaching and promoting the idea of violence."
-No.
-(For example) Human nature is to reproduce as much as possible before you die, as to continue our species and preserve your genes. Do schools teach that? Absolutely not.
sputnikowns 3 years ago 2
Who said schools ever taught children what was natural? Violence is a large part of human nature. No one said it was the first thing we resort to in any given situation.
HipRockInc 2 years ago 2
@jojogamer9 what the HELL are you talking about? fucking everything we find attractive is ALSO animal (that's right) nature. that doesn't mean we are going to teach our children to be whores. have you EVER read a history book? why if something is in our nature, should we automatically embrace it? somethings in this world aren't all rainbows and unicorns and your naivety won't change that.
holdenbane 1 year ago
I would also probably turn theist after a near death experience.... The mind undergoes a huge shock... But this doesn't really prove anything...
ItachiRaikiri 3 years ago
"you obviously have a life full of sex, violence and enjoy this!"
No I actually live pretty peacefully. Shouldnt all married couples have a life full of sex?
humanpotential7 3 years ago 2
Thunderf00t you are my hero. Thank you for standing up to these crazy "fooled again" Christians who want us to believe that Noah was a dinosaur rancher. Keep up the good work!!!!
aquatania 3 years ago 7
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thanx for the encouragement. its people like you that keep me going. I'll be praying for you.
jninny 3 years ago
And I'll be thinking for you :)
crono117 3 years ago 7
pwnd :D
MaikUniversum 3 years ago 6
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God loves you guys...no matter how much you hate us
jninny 3 years ago
A a aaa.. we don't hate you guys, we just think you're stupid.. :) ..we leave the hate stuff to you and your loving god.
m1ch1227 3 years ago 8
ICorinthians Chapter 1
18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
"jninny" thanks for your comment...you are not alone. God is working on these people.
God loves them and no matter how much they use abusive speech some of them want to find the Truth and they are seeking the truth.
Some of them are "bummed" at all the evil and suffering in the world. They don't under stand the human element is fudemental. We are our own worst enemies until JESUS opens our hearts. God has given me love and patience for internet junkies.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
abusive speech? does that include using a small quote from somebody(usually dead, its easier with no rebuttle) to portray the exact opposite of their actual beliefs? kent did it all the time, and i would hope you cristians would view this as the "false witness" it clearly is. you can believe what you want as far as creation goes, but telling lies(even if you think its for god) is still wrong.
largegrainsofsalt 3 years ago 4
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My witness is not false because Christ is alive and even the most skeptical when looking at all the evidences for the bodily resurrection of the Messiah came away saying as Thomas the apostle, "My Lord and my God"
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Good thing you didn't go into how you feel about us, or else we might not look quite as condescending :)
mooseCW 3 years ago
Are you going to worship me now? You said!
Satan! you are a defeated foe and in the Name of the Son of David who made atonement in his blood for this person's sin release him!
You shall worship the LORD-GOD and Him only.
YESHUA conquered you at the cross as the LAMB OF GOD and you know your days are short. The LION of the Tribe of Judah is coming and every eye shall see HIM.
Now I say to you Maltez92 JESUS came into this world to LIGHT every man and to overcome the darkness. REPENT
utubejvs3 3 years ago
hovind is in for a good 10 years in prison :D
DaniKiller 3 years ago 3
they all look like forest gump..
except heartless
queerchs 3 years ago
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JESUS said, I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one can come to the FATHER but through Me (his bloody cross, his death, his resurrection) Nothing has changed but world of events are getting closer to His appearing and judgment of the world.
JESUS said, "Follow me and you will not walk in darkness but have the light of life."
You can be in any vocation including science but your vision of TRUTH will change you view of everything you do! It is almost midnight now Nothing is hidden from Him.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Forget all of that stupid shit.
ThePsychoReturns 3 years ago 4
Every light casts a shadow, and blinding light brings only darkness.
I feared your god once, now I find that such fear is bollocks.
SpyHotz404 3 years ago 4
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1 John 4:18 (Today's New International Version)
Today's New International Version (TNIV)
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
What you lose SpyHotz is God's Love for your life for this life and the next, see:
allaboutGod [.]com
utubejvs3 3 years ago
god doesnt write books. humans write books. humans are flawed. your book is flawed. your quotes hold only the merit that believers give them, and a rational mind would give them no merit at all.
largegrainsofsalt 3 years ago 11
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If it is such an open and shut case that the Bible has no merit then why do intellectuals, scientists, politicians and people of all the nations believe it. The libraries of the world tell me you are wrong... Rational minds do not ignore the Truth.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
the same reason i did for around 18 yrs, my parents told me it was so. and for a few years i also believed in santa clause for the same reason. even christian scientist dont believe in a literal interpretation of the bible. they read it for inspiration, not historical facts. a rational mind seeks evidence to support a claim, it doesnt just pick the most convenient explanation. what libraries are you refering to? not scientific ones, so far as i can tell you've only read one book your whole life.
largegrainsofsalt 3 years ago 15
utubejvs3.. would you bet your health/life on your word? reject scientists medicines in favour of going to the church in your time of need?
I have before, went straight to hospital when at risk of losing my left hand, never prayed at all! Now would you prove your faith by going to the house of god for help?
PROVE YOUR FAITH TO YOURSELF!
So you are same religion as your parents, how did that happen?? chance??
Or indoctrination at an early age?
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
Err wrong, when you die you will be a pile of bones the same as any atheist.
Take a shovel to a grave yard for proof.
And please don't give me the sole goes on routine.
We can manipulate our DNA yet no sole is found so.. don't count on life after death by spending your whole life toading to god.
I bet you are the same religion as your parents right? you didn't answer before....Please tell me!
YOU ARE THE SAME RELIGION AS YOUR PARENTS,..HOW ORIGINAL...WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
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You say things without knowledged based on limited emperical senses. You don't believe in GOD or the Bible or in Christ's resurrection. There is plenty of intellectual proof to provide a basis of reasonable faith. I directed you to several websites, so?
My parents did not make me a Christian but the influence they had on me was positive but I know Jewish, and Muslims and people from every walk of life coming to the Savior.
What about your parents, did you love them?
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Resurrection?...See now we have a problem, it just cannot happen. And I don't need to go to any website to know that. Allow commen sense to prevail when you read something. You know the stuff that means you can use your sane judgement. Just because something is wrapped in a cover saying bible on it, you should allways use common sense. Did I love my parents? yes and without the need for religion. Guess what I also have morals and empathy for others without religion.....SUPRISE!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago 5
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"Guess what I also have morals and empathy for others without religion.....SUPRISE! "
No I am not suprised that you cater to self survival and desire a community of likeminded
people.
Without God however all things are permissable. An "atheist" will be a sack of bones 1000 years from now and be no different than a murderer or rapist and pedophile. Right.
On the day of your death you will be dressed up with NO PLACE TO GO. (keep thinking Chris the Light may turn on one day) Bye I am out!
utubejvs3 3 years ago
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God uses many things to bring people to their senses. But what led me to faith was the WORD of GOD. It makes no difference if you believe it Chris. It is alive and powerful and it cuts to the heart of our motives and discerns our thoughts. I spent 5 years in the mission field, medical field, and the insurance business. The only vaccine that will cure your imminent death is the turning to Christ. Again you are blowing smoke son.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
More bible crap I see, and when are you going to quote some af the realy vile stuff about killing etc?
You religious freaks are just copying what mummy and daddy pumped into you at a young age!
Let me take a wild guess...You are the same religion as your parents!!
What a coincidence you happen by chance to find the same god!
Or maybe just maybe you were brainwashed as a kid to follow mummy and daddy without question?
Think about it fool!!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
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No Chris I was on a LSD trip in 1969 and saw heaven and hell and God led me to investigate the Bible. I was a surviving Viet Nam veteran. That was 40 years ago and spending at least 10 of those years in universities and colleges.
Are you so sure son of yourself?
Try looking around allaboutGod . com and look on the left side under the title:
Is the Bible true. That is if you have the courage to face your fears.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
LSD trips lead you to god in 1969 the year I was born. Well that probably is not such a credible way to find god.
You say you spent 10 years in universities and colleges? doing what? teaching bible studies, biology instructor, or logistics?
Am I sure of myself well yes actually I bet my life on it by accepting vaccines designed by virologists that take advantage of the fact we have an EVOLVED immune system, drugs tested on animals with a similar immune response.Can you reject vaccines and pray
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matthew 12:27-35
see truthnet . org for real answers
utubejvs3 3 years ago
One thing religious freaks forget is that life is NOT that unique when the right conditions are by luck, there.
We have found life in places we thought neverb possible, a camera returned after 2 years approx in space was found to contain bacteria sneezed in by an assembly technician, later grown in a lab the bacteria survived. I have seen mould grow in a radar cooling system where the water was so pure it didn't conduct electricity, this mould took approx 6 months to grow, no light, food?
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
haha love it 127 reposts in a day very cool! well done to all and many thanks, Religion should not be allowed to stop our best minds/scientists from improving life.
The religious should show a little more respect to the people that develope the technology and medicine they take for granted every day!
Without our top scientists we would be living as we did 4000 years ago!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago 2
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You lack common sense. Christians and Orthodox Jews are not some strange tribe hiding in the bush. They are in every walk of life and many are in the sciences and science in the begining were developed by religious men that knew the universe was predictable because GOD is the Creator.
Scientism is not true science but is a form of fig leaves that tries to explain away God because His light reminds us of our sins.
Bacon, Newton, Pasteur...
Yale, Harvard, Oxford started outwith Biblicalroots
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Scientism? Sounds a bit like a familiar cult.
ubuntututorials 3 years ago
Scientism? Just making up words now?
cjclifford 3 years ago 2
We are in danger of losing our grip on the concepts of truth, evidence, objectivity, disinterested inquiry. The preposterous environment in which academic work is presently conducted is inhospitable to genuine inquiry, hospitable to the sham and the fake. Encouraging both envy and resentment of the sciences, it has fed an increasingly widespread and articulate irrationalism. Scientism is anti or pseudo science that avoids critical thinking.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Us 'losing our grip on the concepts of truth, evidence, objectivity, disinterested inquiry' is actually the progression of education.
Realize the trend.. The more knowledge and more educated people are, more atheists there are.
Mixb1mp213 2 years ago 3
There we go reaching for the magic again!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
Magic is the new Neo-Darwiniac term for something made up or fair tale, untested but not real science. Now let me ask you what magic have you swallowed? Abiogenesis?
Macro-evolution? Do you know that these are unobservable and the magic code word used is time. Unfortunately time does not provide information. Information in the design of all things demands very specific intelligence.
Sorry but Dawkins so far has failed the test of life. Are you sure you want to follow him into eternity?
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Neo-Darwiniac is the new Jew amirite?
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madmaxxp1 3 years ago
Thank you...
Many of us admire this man of God.
It is a shame due to tax problems people are discounting his brilliant apologetics of Biblica Roots of Creation.
He is in my prayers. Keep up the good work!
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Actually there's a very small range of disagreement in physics and biology. There is a consensus life evolved, the arguments are over the 'how' it evolved. In physics there's almost no disagreement other than in fields like string theory.
And we have found things man has recorded over 6000 years old, The neolithic settlement Skara Brae in Northern Scotland is thought to be about 7-9000 years old.
And you still haven't said anything about radiometric dating which we know to be accurate.
bluecode320 3 years ago
For a mutation to happen no new molecules are needed because there are only four chemicals which make up DNA. If you look at a strand they are represented by T,D,G and A and the information DNA carries can be completely changed by rearranging them. It sounds like DNA should be simple, but there are 3 Billion of these chemicals in each string of modern DNA or RNA. Now the first life would have been very simple and short, RNA strands formed out of proteins and adedine reacting.
bluecode320 3 years ago
There is nothing simple about DNA and its role. Who wrote the programming? You haven't a clue! You can state it as loud and definitive as you want but DNA does not prove man came from simple molecules to man over billions of years. That is your religion not mine. Each animal has a common ancestor but it is a forest of many unrelated species not a tree. You can't see it but you do everything to suppress it but your system of "scientism" will fail because your foundation is in error.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
DNA isn't simple, but it isn't beyond our grasp. If each animal has a common ancestor but those are seperate from a universal common ancestor, why do we share DNA in a manner exactly consistent with the Phylogenetic predictions?
What would it look like if evolution were true? What would we see now that we don't? What if your foundation was neautral, what would a world made by evolution look like?
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
Not beyond your grasp..hey? Try creating something that lives without using living material! I do not see evolution at all.
What would creation look like if true and GOD judged the earth and all realms of nature due to man's sin? You would see the teleology of His design and distinct creature with similar body systems for our world and a unique biosphere for life. You would see provision for man and animals in the way of food and water.
All planned! Deny him but GOD IS not WAS.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Yo.
I don't think you answered my question. What would it look like if evolution were true. What would you need to see in order for you to say "wow, that might have some truth to it."
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
If evolution were true and a process as described by most of its enthusiasts we would have more species developing all of the time.
We would see many transitional species and more mutations of sorry looking creatures that are not whole. We do not see this ugly picture. There are some mutation but few.
Every specie is whole, complete and suited for live and survival overall. There are many variations within a species of a kind but distinct from all other major kinds and or species. God is!
utubejvs3 3 years ago
You don't understand how evolution works. We have sorry looking creatures born all the time (two headed snakes, ect) but they die off. They don't reproduce. The best fitting creature of each population does.
The Playtpus is an example of a living transitional species. They have just decoded its genome and found it has reptilian and mammalian characteristics.
Check out the wikipedia entry on transitional fossils.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago
NO WE WOULDN'T because evolution happens over MILLIONS or BILLIONS of years. Think of how long a year is, then a millenium and you are off the time scale we are talking about by a factor of a million!You also assume that because something looks complicated it can't possibly be formed by basic composite particles reacting to form more and more complicated structures. You attempted to refute ONE of my statements without using any evidence against it. What about retroviruses or radiometric dating?
bluecode320 3 years ago
"You also assume that because something looks complicated it can't possibly be formed by basic composite particles reacting to form more and more complicated structures."
No I do not assume anything. You assume that the information needed to design and implement the genetic code did not need a mind. Somehow time, that you can not prove is 'your god' and 'unguided random mindless chance' was the second person of your trinity.
The third person is YOU as the interpreter of life. You an idolater
utubejvs3 3 years ago
It is unguided but not random, there is only one path because any organism without beneficial traits will not live long enough to reproduce and pass negative traits on; so we know that most inherited traits are beneficial.
And I can prove that there was enough time with radiometric dating. The stars, the stars millions of light years away, all of them prove there was enough time.
And you assume the Bible to be true. And I don't assume, I know for a fact that magnets don't have a mind.
bluecode320 3 years ago
There are many parts to life and what matters.
Knowing one field of understanding does not prepare you for eternity. I do not assume the Bible is true. God has left His signature all over the Scriptures in fulfilled prophecy and current events going on today. The greater purpose of life leads back to the Source of Life. God loves you personally He does not want you to remain in the darkness and futiliy or your unrepentant mind. In Christ are hidden the deepest mysteries of life. Search
utubejvs3 3 years ago
These 'mutations' happen between generations. Now each generation has.. maybe 15-30 years between the next one.. and theres only the slightest change if any change.
That's why it has took organisms Four billion years to get where they're at(not 6000 years).
Mixb1mp213 2 years ago 3
YOU DO NOT NEED TO PROGRAM MOLECULES! They ALWAYS react in a predictable manner! ALWAYS! You will never start a nuclear reaction by burning potatoes, you will never have a situation where petrol doesn't burn when you light it! You don't need to program particles to attract eachother because of the forces which attract them anyway. How a chemical will react can be calculated using the standard model, if you put the data from the model into a computer you can find out why DNA is the shape it is!
bluecode320 3 years ago
Oh is that so...if you believe that you are ignorant beyond belief. Who designed chemistry and physics? You speak in circles because you want to deny the very source of life. Was your computer that you use to study DNA the random mindless product of time?
You are intelligent but you lack real wisdom.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Is there a force which will pull the pieces of my computer together over time? NO! Is my computer incredibly simple? Are there only three types of working parts to it? NO! Chemicals are all made up of three types of particles, two varieties of quark and an electron. There are a few others floating about but for all intents and purposes they are made of nothing else. If another chemical other than a noble gas comes along and they have enough energy they will react; there is no question about it.
bluecode320 3 years ago
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You are incredible. If your girl friend bought you a gift would you analyze the method the gift got from, the store, to your home to your table? Would you not understand
her love motive or display of affection?
God gives you light, warmth, food galore and the ability to breath and all you can do is say that each life form is a simple movement of 3 elements being 'drawn together'. Scientific discovery is fine but trying to eliminate GOD is sheer stupidity and it was not me who said that...
utubejvs3 3 years ago
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Still don't see a sentence of radiometric dating but whatever; I wouldn't need to analyse how a gift got to my table because I'd probably already know and it wouldn't be very helpful and it wouldn't let me find how other gifts get to other places with 100% certainty... you get the picture; it isn't the same thing.
bluecode320 3 years ago
"You are intelligent but you lack real wisdom."
NO U
Aldelirium 3 years ago 4
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Psalm 104:24
How many are your works, O LORD! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures.
Psalm 111:10
To understand science a little leads men away from GOD...when men or woman study science in more detail they are amazed at the works of GOD and bow theirs knees before Creation.
paraphrase of Loui Pasteur
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
yes and? the bible also says whales are fish and bats are birds.
Aldelirium 3 years ago 6
Is that true? hahaha if it is then how did a perfect god make such a big fuck up hehehe!
Maybe god didn't go to Oxford university where he should have listened to Richard Dawkins.
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
Yes God made paedophiles too! What a bastard god is!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
Chris your name is derived from Christian a follower of Christ or Christ likeness.
What you misunderstand is that the planet is in its condition because of the judgement of sin.
It effects mankind and nature. Fallen man is spiritually dead. A materialistic view of life does not have the answers for you. Oxford started out as a Christian Bible centered University. Your hostility and arrogance can be forgiven.
take a look around at allaboutgod . com and you will find some answers.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
thus rants on, this silly christian.
Aldelirium 3 years ago
Yes I will rant on and on if I can by the love of God help one person like you from making an eternal mistake of disregarding and missing the pardon of Jesus Christ.
see christiananswers . net
This silly Christian believes you are worth saving from eternal darkness and judgment.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
I praise eternal darkness. Fuck that child molesting faggot Jesus Christ. Fuck Jehova. Fuck that cunt mary.
Spill the blood of the lamb. Take a shit over the book of lies. Piss on the altar of god. Destroy the crucifix.
HAIL SATAN
HAIL BELCEBUB
HAIL LUCIFER
HAIL BELIAL
Aldelirium 3 years ago
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matthew 12:27-35
see truthnet . org for real answers
utubejvs3 3 years ago
HAIL SATAN!
Aldelirium 3 years ago
The movie "Devils Advocate" was brilliant! I would worship satan hahaha!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
Satan is all that Jesus never is.
Aldelirium 3 years ago
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matthew 12:27-35
see truthnet . org for real answers
utubejvs3 3 years ago
35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matthew 12:27-35
see truthnet . org for real answers
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Funny that you keep quoting the bible being that we don't believe in it.
Heres more bible fun:
Ephesians 6:5
Slaves and Masters 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
Aldelirium 3 years ago
You look for objections without thinking things through. God delivered the children of Israel from slavery. Christ died to set all men free spiritually. He did not instigate war in slave ridden countries but the very catalyst that has impacted the end of slavery the most is Christianity. So why are you a slave to sin (independent self centeredness and breaking God's Laws in thought and deed)
So who is your master? The one you serve!
Go to: allaboutGod . com
utubejvs3 3 years ago
"God delivered the children of Israel from slavery. "
He also ordered the genocide of the Midianites.
"Christ died to set all men free spiritually. "
BULLSHIT!
"So who is your master? The one you serve!"
SATAN... obviously.
Aldelirium 3 years ago
The bible is a bunch of fiction made by man long after events may have happened.
But lets face it, noah's arc has to be crap, size of boat to number of animals etc. Virgin birth hehehe!
Do I need to go on?
The amount of crap that any normal person cannot believe is unreal.
The killing in the bible haha what a great book! good way to live your life!
And the morals? kill for working on sundays!
Niiice!!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
So would you bet your life on the word of the bible and reject medicines designed by virologists based on our evolved immune system that has common links with other animals with which we test those drugs, in favour of betting your life on prayer and your god helping you when you need it most?
It is an easy choice, go to a church instead of a hospital.
In my time of need I went straight to hospital and hoped the skill of a doctor could save my hand. He did, no church required.
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
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My soul is in surrender to Jesus Christ to cover my sins with His atoning blood. I am ready to die when that day comes. All the doctors in the world will not save your soul. As far as your arguement Chris I have say it as politely as possible it is assnine. You should know better. The whole Hospital and University movement came about through Christianity and missions.
Most Christians love science and medicine and true relief to the human race. You are making a big jump that does not exist.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Kent Hovind made a lot of money due to people like you believing the crap he was peddling simply because he wrapped it in religion.
Its one of the great money spinners! No evidence required as people will believe anyway!
It's just a business! Hovind made a fortune doing it simple.
And when scientists try to test these miricles ets, GOD just doesn't feel like playing that day, there is allways some lame excuse for god!
chrishibbert20 3 years ago
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Sorry Kent Hovind may have some tax problems but overall he is a real man and a very wise man. This video by Thunderfoot is like pop culture but in the end it really has no substance. In the beginning GOD Created...
You will all meet HIM so get use to the fact.
Party now but learning respect for GOD is the beginning of true wisdom. Take Care of Yourselves...the seas are about to get a little rough and the outlook on the horizons of our times is ominous.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Hahahahahaha! And when I think you couldn't be any sillier.
TheJaykTheory 3 years ago
what does it feel like being trapped in a box(or a book) full of lies?
at the end of the day you know what you believe in is false yet you can't admit it to yourself.
vinak963 3 years ago
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Jesus said, you shall know the Truth and the truth will set you free. He also said,
I Am the Way the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Me. He died as the Prophet Isaiah said he would and arose from the dead. I have had the peace of God for some 40 years right after returning from Viet Nam. The Lord Jesus is my best Friend
and He is working in my life to share His love and forgiveness with you. Who is trapped in a box? Are you are more sure of truth than JESUS?
utubejvs3 3 years ago
You are more sure of a 2000 year old archaic text than biochemistry, genetic science, DNA, radiometric dating, the Standard Model, Quantum mechanics, evidence of retroviruses, nuclear fusion, nuclear fission, strong nuclear force, electro-weak force, gravity, the expansion of the universe, the speed of light, the fossil record, fossil fuels, the sun burning, the stars burning and all the competent scientists in the world?
Because Kent Hovind (the convicted fraudster) sure is!
bluecode320 3 years ago
I am sure of this bluecode320 You do not know the Bible Code and you do not understand fulfilled prophecy written thousands of years but before and nations and the people written about existed. That is God's challenge to you. Read the book of Isaiah chapter 44-53.
You will see things written of the Christ that were to be fulfilled in His first and in His now second coming. Science is not always correct in its conclusions. You will see soon. Isaiah lived 700 BC !
utubejvs3 3 years ago
And at the moment the world's top physciscts are so confident in the Big Bang theory that they have built the Large Hadron Collider at a cost of 20 years of work and $6 BILLION. The collider will give an idea of what the first few seconds after the Big Bang were like and will help to complete the standard model.
bluecode320 3 years ago
pwnt
ngarey 3 years ago
Anyone know the name of this song, by the way? lol. I kinda' like it.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
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All of you observers I cordially invite you to see the movie of the year by Ben Stein,
"EXPELLED". Then ask yourself why intelligent high educated scientists both men and women are rejecting evolution as fact? I wish all of the very best in life of love and happiness for time and eternity. Even if you are an atheist or agnostic the movie will be mind expanding or just make you chuckle. Enjoy! Seek the Truth and someday we will shake hands and be friends. Freedom of the intellect is cool!
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Are you crazy?
Doazic 3 years ago 3
Intellectual freedom is great, indeed its very important to the scientific process, but Expelled has little or nothing to do with that, its an attack on science by creationists because they're upset that their idea which lacks sufficient evidence to warrent scientific merit, is discarded by the vast majority of scientists.
cont...
eals524 3 years ago 2
Obviously you did not see the movie or you did and are ignorant of what is going on in the academic community. "Concensus" is not evidence nor does it mean that all of the questions and answers are known.
Darwinian Macro Evolution has never been seen and can not be observed or tested. Don't reply with the same dismal answer of common descent of a common ancestor or homologies of all the species. That is conjecture, extrapolation but it is not evidence or good science. PERIOD
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Well! I am glad you think that stating "PERIOD!" in a loud voice makes your ignorance "factual", but in the real world - you know, the one where Jesus doesn't exist? - it doesn't work that way.
Evolution is a fact. Live with it. If you refuse to accept science, then please...When the cures for diseases from the study of genomics start to flow, keep out of line for the cures.
You can have fun dying and going to heaven then anyways, right?!
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
You are wrong. The evidence for evolution is very clear. I am a scientist. In my own research, I find homologous proteins in non-human animals and use them to make inference about proteins involved in human cancer. The relationships between us and the rest of the animal kingdom is blatently obvious to me. It would be easy to refute evolution - a breastfeeding bird, a mammel with a one-way lung system or feathers, rabbit fossils in precambrian strata, the list goes ever on.
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
Yes we have a common DESIGN because we have a common DESIGNER but the species to not cross over into other species. No one is against good medicine and good research that provides relief from human suffering but DME has nothing to do with it.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
I do not know what "DME" stands for, but I take it you're talking about evolution anyways...
Ironically for you...Current evolutionary theory is being used in genomics to understand and cure all sorts of ailments.
So I guess you're not against evolution then after all?
If you still are - stay out of the line for the cures, please. The rest of us would like to live longer. You can just go to "Heaven". Have fun.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
I hate it when creationists have absurdly high standards for evolution (which can be satisfied if only they took their hands of their eyes) whilst believing in ridiculous things without even a shred of evidence; mary being impregnated by god, jesus coming back from the dead, man being made from dirt.
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
How did the first life form come about per evolutionary theory? Abiogenesis.
A fact word for dirt elements coming to life by YOUR ALLOWED MAGIC. Your god is time and chance. Can see it and never observed.
Not too logical or reasonable to me. I prefer the Living GOD.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Evolution is not abiogenesis. Abiogenesis is a highly speculative field. Evolution is not speculative, it is a fact. Once a self-replicating entity exists, then life can evolve. This is what happened, leaving imprints of this process in its wake - imprints which have been studied and which all fit nicely within the evolutionary theory. This has nothing to do with the origin of the prime replicator.
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
Yes self replicating also means variation due to a loss or non use of all of the information. But each major species can only use the information provided. Mutuation nor any other process produce a wholly new superior species. Other wise you see new species (nor variations of one that exists).
No the Earth and the original species are wearing down due to the laws of thermodynamics. Only Christ can reverse the that and bring back the restoration of the Earth. I wish you life & all the best
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Wrong. A bacteria in Japan recently evolved a COMPLETELY NEW gene for digesting nylon. Evolution CHANGES genes, so is not restricted by whats already there. "the Earth and the original species are wearing down due to the laws of thermodynamics" - your talking bullshit. What do you mean by information? Technically its measured in bits where 1 bit is needed to half the uncertainty. I don't see how its realted. I have no religion. I'm certain about nothing, but base my beliefs on evidence.
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
Sorry if you are upset. If you are open to listening to a season scientist who is now passed away explain the bianry algorythms of DNA and why it is not simple nor by accident go and Google Dr A. E. Wilder-Smith and see his audio and video libray and listen to the college lecture series. By the way I am not religious either. I have a relationship with God through His Son. He is true to HIS WORD.
Just be open to the truth and let your real heart and conscious lead you. Be well.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Statistics mean absolutely nothing. According to statistical thermodynamics - again - everything is infinitely improbably, but EVERYTHING must eventually exist in a state. DNA is the state of amino acids coming together.
We are letting our real conscious lead us, and unlike you...We're not willing to lie for a belief. We are honest and scientific. We use facts, not dogma. We wish to educate, you wish to DESTROY.
You and the ID movement are morally bankrupt.
Read a science book.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago 2
We've already explained this to you and explained why you are wrong. Yet you continue to spout your lies.
What a good Christian you must be.
Mutation, genetic drift, gene fusion/splitting etc all cause "new information". A mutation BY DEFINITION is having information there now that was not there before, or was there is a different state and has mutated to another state.
Quit lying, please.
The only species "wearing down" is...Uhh, the Cheetah, due to inbreeding? Everything else is FINE!
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
Since you want to talk about abiogenesis, I will tell you why its a better explination than postulating a creator. In living things, molecules have affinities for each other. I believe that a compound formed from some of the trillions of molecules on one of the billions of planets in one of the billions of galaxies, in what we call the primordial soup. This molecule had a physical interaction with other components of the primordial soup, in such a way that it catalyses the formation of itself...
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
...possibly by forming a template of itself. Both of these molecules self-replicated further, will occasional variations due to their lack of specificity. As they proliferated, some variations better at self replicating and evolution takes it from there. There is no MAGIC, as you call it. I have no evidence of this, but unlike your position, it creates complexity from simplicity, without involving something AT LEAST as complex as what it is trying to explain. Where did your god come from?
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
Unproven hypothesis the is unteniable considering chance does not provide information nor the enity that produced the information. Like I said Scoop it is your religion or fig leaves to hide from GOD.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
There is nothing magic about the chemicals that make up DNA coming together. Like all chemicals, those amino acids have attractions. The fact that they came together is of no surprise. The chances of it happening could be 10 to the trillionth power and it WOULDN'T MATTER because it happened anyways. According to statistical thermodynamics, ANY configuration is infinitely immprobable, but alas, everything MUST exist in a state. DNA is the existence-state of those amino acids coming together.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
I have read your blather and typical NDE arguements. The obvious is looking in the mirror at you. Believing in DME is an act of the will and your philosophical presuppositions not true science. If you think you're right the debate about Creation and ID should never come up again right? WRONG BECAUSE EVEN THE MOST ARDENT EVOLUTIONIST SEES PURPOSE AND DESIGN IN THE HEAVENS AND THE LIVING SPECIES ON EARTH.
They are clueless HOWEVER as to how it got there in such grandeur and splendor. Bye!
utubejvs3 3 years ago
The "debate" is only coming up because creationists are forcing our hands. There is no debate in the scientific community. Evolution is just as true and the Earth going around the Sun. However, creationists are trying to shove their BS in schools, and we can't allow schools to teach ignorance. Our children will grow into adults who are stupid.
I see no purpose in the Universe nor the Earth. We're merely here. We exist.
Also, we know how BOTH got here.
You just don't like the explanation.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago 3
"I see no purpose in the Universe nor the Earth. We're merely here. We exist.""
This defines who you are but it is not YOURS to tell what the purpose is but GOD's and you can't reason it but it must be reavealed to you. It is revealed in the Holy Scriptures.
I understand you do not accept the Bible as Truth but that does not mean it is not true.
You have not looked at the evidence but it is there. The same GOD who designed Physics, Mathmatics, Gravity and Chemistry made spiritual laws.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Until you can prove there is a God, my point remains valid. Since God will never be proven (considering he doesn't exist) and couldn't even if he DID exist, due to the fact that even "God" has claimed it's all on faith...Your "point" will never be valid. Ever.
I've done plenty of research on both sides, and I used to be a Christian myself. Please do not insult me by claiming I "haven't done research" just because I do not agree with your OPINION on the Universe.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago 2
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"Since God will never be proven (considering he doesn't exist) and couldn't even if he DID exist,"
Yes it is a matter of faith but that does not mean the grounds for believing are not substantial.You claimed you were a Christian? What made you a Christian; on what basis? CS Lewis who wrote many books was an atheist and evolutionist until he was born again. You aught to read Mere Christianity but by your attitude I doubt you will. If you want to stay in a purposeless existance you can.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
I missed the part where my existence was meaningless just because you say so? Existence itself doesn't have a PURPOSE, but that doesn't make it meaningless. We're here now and we find our own meanings in things we like. Things we like are usually things Christian's want to go away...like science!
On what grounds was I a Christian? Geez, I dunno', the grounds that I professed Jesus as Lord and believed in him? Stupid question.
What you're implying is that I was a "false convert". How typical.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago 3
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Yes you are typical. You make the very proven false assumption the Christians are against science. False! They don't believe for both Biblical and scientific reasons in Macro Evolution. Professing the Christian faith does not make you one. If you were not born again and having had a Spiritual transformation.
Purposeless by definition is a lack of meaning. You have made your life meaningful
without the PURPOSE GOD intended. Yes I do understand. Be well.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
What scientific reason allows you to deny evolutino exactly? I'd love to see it so that I may also be "enlightened". Please, do tell us all. Better yet, write a paper and submit it for peer review. You'd like win a Nobel Prize if you proved evolution to be false. What're you waiting for, hmm?
How am I typical? I was a Christian, and since I am no longer, you did the typical thing by denying I ever was - something you couldn't POSSIBLY know.
I was a Christian just as much as you are now.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago 2
I see the evidence for evolution every day. I am a scientist working in cancer research. Many proteins have been studied in atomic detail in many species. Some of these have cancer-related homologues in humans which have not been so well studied. I can study the homologous process in humans and its role in cancer. Telling me that evolution is false, when I see and use evidence to the contrary on a daily basis, is like telling an electrician that everything he knows about wiring is a lie.
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
What do you define as evolution? Types of cancer cells or similarity in proteins does not prove that one kind of species crossed over into a wholey different species. Macro-evolution is not a fact and it is not happening today nor has it ever happened on planet earth. The extrapolation of homologies only shows us that in our environment for life the Creator used similar designs in harmony with biogenesis of life.
I accept that by observation and faith.
Each species has a purposeful design.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
Evolution by natural selection. Looking at homologous proteins (eg haemaglobin) in say, human, chimpanzee, mouse and chicken. In decreasing order of sequence similarity to human, they go: chimp, mouse, chicken. This is exactly as evolution predicts. The closest homologues are those of creatures that split off from the human path on the phylogenic tree the most recently. The most distance homologues are for species that have been on a path divergent from our own for the longest...
AlmightScoop 3 years ago
"The closest homologues are those of creatures that split off from the human path on the phylogenic tree the most recently."
When you say "split off" you are making an assumption that has never been seen or observed in the major species groups.
In other words the fossil records show no such event of gradual change. What came before a chicken or after a chicken that can be proven? This is my problem with these interpretations of homologies that go too far.
God created each after its kind.
utubejvs3 3 years ago
The black backed gull and the he