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  • Hey dude, trying this on reason 5, cant open any of my samples nor the one you used in the tut, any ideas?

  • Is there any way you can pitch it, like in malstrom? So you can actually use it as an instrument..

  • THANK YOU! great how it works!

  • Could you upload the combinator template please??

  • thank you.

  • thanks man, great tutorial ive used this so much beacse its so versatile :P. :) again thanks

  • safety..........i like it

  • NICE !

  • OMG this is a great idea, thanks! cool stuff.

  • nice,works perfectly

  • oh, wow great :)

    i've done this before, however i used the arpeggiator

  • however, with your setup, there is no way around playing different notes, is it?

  • @rubikbg from what ive gathered you can just keep keyboard tracking checked.

  • fuck you Ace!!!

  • sick!

  • Awesome trick here Ace! Thanks a heap!

  • Thank you so much, this is awsome keep up this good work !

  • AcePincter: when you are devising these cool effects...do you already know HOW you are going to wire everything up beforehand? Or do you just play around until something cool happens?

  • what do u think is a better program to use for makin lets say hip hop beats? fl studio 7or8 or reason 3or4.. so FL or Reason?

  • They are very different both in concept and functionality.

    FL Studio is mainly a sequencer and DAW. Meaning, you could accomplish all your recording in FL.

    Reason is a MIDI-driven application that cannot directly record audio in. It does, however, have some of the best sound design capabilities of any piece of software out there.

    My advice; get FL Studio AND Reason. You can use Reason inside FL Studio to design your sounds and track and arrange everything in FL...

  • @osoar215 REASON ALL THE WAY!!

  • This was quite enlightening. I reckon when I get home I may have to reinstall my Reason disc and give this a go. It seems like it's much more tweakable than the Granulizer synth in FL, and I'm always looking for new fun ways to make noise.

    Thank you.

  • this was bad-Ass... PLEASE KEEP UPLOADING VIDEOS

  • Ace...you are the king.

    thanks!

  • Very nice :: great trick, very clever...! TNX

  • Good work ace...

  • Instead of the subractor, use the LFO of the NN-19 for the gate.

  • thanks ace!

  • for some reason i cant get the rotary one to make the first grain effect. any help?

  • Most amazing tut on you tube! thank you so much.

  • great tutorial- sounds like you got a tongue ring!

  • Awesome tutorial. Thanks a lot!

  • hey man! this tutorial helped a lot i actually tried it using Redrum, then i write a simple drum pattern then create subtractors and connect the LFO output to the gate input of each channel of redrum so this means i used 10 subtractors for each redrum channel and tweak the shit out of it you get really sick drum patterns by just using this im still working on it

    just wanted to thank you and share this if you havent thought about it maybe use this and evolve the idea. u kick ass man

  • Very nice tutorial.

    Clearly explained !

    Jim

  • men, you don't know how much you helped me with this tutorials, i really thank you from argentina!

  • man?

  • btw i really think this is the best way to make a glitch effect so pleeez tell how to make it work for me :P :)

    peace

  • ok i'm doing this step by step(note:i dont have a midi keyboard),so when subtracktors LFO goes to the nn19 gate the sound starts to play continiously..so you say to stop that we connect subtracktors mod envelope to the level input on the nn19..when i do that the sound doesnt really stops,it just plays again after a while..and when i press play i hear my sample pitched and mixed whith my original sample..so i hear two sounds mixed..so why is that happening since i'm doing everything step by step?

  • sorted, i just wasn't initializing the subtractor when i opened it. I love this technique, great tutorial!

    I read another great version in the computer music special magazine which uses the Thor instead of the subtractor lfo, it even has the option to play the sample backwards aswell as forwards. alot more wiring to it though!

  • This is damn cool.

    I came close to creating a two-sample stereo one of these today, but I can't seem to get full control over the second sample w/o taking it away from the first. By copying and pasting the sampler, gate, and effects and routing them to the splitter. Then create a new combi and route the delay to it, and combi to mix 2. Adjust "spread" with delay panning. Problem is you need two more rotaries for the LFO 2 and Filter 2. Maybe you've figured out a way to do this?

  • use the cv mergers/plitter to send cv's to both setups at the same time

  • I GOT IT!

    Create a Malstrom and route "Mod Output A" to a cv splitter, then to two of these devices through their "Sequencer Control - Gate In's"

  • When I hook up the subtractor lfo to the gate it triggers the default NN-19 organ every 5 seconds for 5 seconds, it's extremely annoying! Any ideas how to stop it? I can't get any further in the tutorial because of it.

  • Check your Subtractor LFO - make it faster; or, check your organ AMP ENVelope, you might have a really long release?

  • Do you teach? 'Cos if you don't you really should.

  • I got this down actually, it took sometime but I'm using a sample in .wav format through the NN-19 and it's a breakbeat and goes for 6 seconds, and when I press a key on my keyboard and hold it I get the beat but then the beat overlaps itself, is there a correction i'm missing or do i have to play with the sample start or wire anything else?

  • try to drop the release control all the way down to prevent it from overlaping itself

  • i've done all the things you're saying in the video.

    i have one question: how can i change the speed?

    cause i wanna play it faster.

    thanks man ;-)

  • The sample Start is, in this case, controlled by the MOD ENV on the subtractor, right? So, you can control how fast the sample plays by adjusting the attack, on that particular envelope.

  • insanity.

  • "clap clap clap clap" very very good mate. Im very impressed. I would love to hear some of your music. must have some mad stuff. Im going to try this tommorow. How did you learn this? cos i tought my self reson, but not to this grade....

  • acutally, no matter what i'm triggering, when i use an envelope to move the start position via a combinator it only moves it from half way when the min and max values are default. could this be becasue of reason 4.0?

  • It could be because the knob on your rotary input on the rear of the combinator is set for 64? Set it for 128. It's the sensitivity to the input that this knob controls. Remember, it's the knob on the rear where your rotary input is plugged in.

  • i've been trying this with rex loops loaded into a nn19, triggering one slice at a time and using a envelope to travel through the start position, but it only start from about half way? any idea why?

  • i dont get it! when i assign the mod envelope to rotary one it only moves the start position from half way...?

  • you can rename the rotaries and buttons on a combinator, you know...

  • I do! but for some reason it doesn't open the little renaming window when my video capture is running!

  • VERRRRRRRRY NIIIICEEE, MAN!!!!!!!!! :-] i've been using reason for some time now, but i hadn't thought that it could do things like a granulator! i've always wanted to get some granular unit, but i didn't try any. i like to experimentate, but obviously it wsn't enough.. :-) thank you so much for this!

  • nice (Y) dude how u know all these stuff?:+

  • Experimentation!

  • nice...very powerful

  • i have one question. I use no master keyboard (i dont have midi, it sux, i know), so when i connect cables from subtractor's LFO 1 to NN-19 gates, i get the sound, that can not turn off. Evev if its nothing drawn in sequencer. How to use this effect without master keyboard ? is it possible? :)

  • Create a Matrix and connect its "Gate CV" to the AMP LEVEL on the back of your NN19. Now you can sequence the on/off using the Matrix.

  • thanks ! i also found out that can turn on/off it in Track Parameter Automation in sequencer. :) thanks for good tutorials, 'cause i hated tutorials, but when i saw yours, i started to like it :)

  • You can use Thor to set it up so you can change the pitch with the keys (like a normal synth)

    in the green part in thor set source to last key, amount to 100 and destination to cv1. Then flip it around and patch the cv1 output to the cv of the nn19

  • Nice tip! That's quite useful. With this you could use Thor as a Keyboard controller for a number of effects.

  • great video. i've been trying to figure out a way to do this with dr. rex. i don't know if you've fooled around with it at all, but you should do a tutorial on that.

  • very very thank you for this :)

  • amazing! thanks for the tutorial. thats some creative wiring. i just started with combinator.

  • ...and i thought i knew a lot about Reason...

  • No hard feelings, eh? You know more now than you did before you watched the tut?

  • no hard feelings at all, this actually motivated me to explore the software to the max, by making music with it.

  • Yeah I was trying to, but sometimes my encoder gets weird and menus don't appear. I've used those features before, but it just freaked out on me while recording.

  • Really good idea!

    I was wondering if it is possible to do it with the NN-XT? Because you don't have a sample start input, or am I missing something.

  • Nope, you nailed it. That's the reason you can't do it with the NNXT. However you could do it with the Redrum if you were so inclined.

  • This is amazing, lol. Reason is so awesome because you have no choice but to think out of the typical software vsti "box". Cheers!!

  • I'm very confused as to why the Sample Start knob never works correctly for me, it just kinda fades the sample out.

  • Because your sample itself is fading out? This method might not work well on a "pluck" or "one-off" type of sample. Try it with a loop or voice, something lengthy - to hear the effect.

  • I've tried just about every kind of sample. I was actually using REX drum loops. I've changed the loop a dozen times and all I hear is the initial "grain" pitch shift a bit lower and then fade out.

    I love this effect, and it's really bothering me that it won't work for me.

  • You're using REX loops? In the NN-19 you'll only be loadinf one Slice at a time, not the whole loop. Did you connect the Subtractor to the GATE on the back of your NN19 or the CV/Note?

  • Ok, yeah, I figured it out. I was loading those REX loops instead of actual samples.

    I'm an idiot, haha.

    But I really appreciate you replying and trying to help me out. You're a good man.

  • this shit is freaking med out :@

    when i load a sample it work fine BUT!!!

    sometimes it plays the whole sample out

    how to fix it ?????

  • Turn off KBD. Tracking

  • you could have just used the nn19's LFO...

  • That's true, but in sync mode you can get good effects out of using a sync'd slow LFO/filter combination

  • yeah, you're right :D

    this is a great tut on how to start the basis of granular synthesis!

  • Actually, the reason I chose not to use the NN19, is that it does not provide an easy way to actually STOP the sound. You need a subtractor as a gate for your on/off control anyway, and I want to demonstrate the ability to use subtractors as control instruments, rather than audio.

  • I think I'm going to start making my own granulized combinators and try to use LFOs and matrixes for cool effects. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • Your ingenuity is top notch...thanks for this one....not sure why u couldn't rename ur rotary on combi...but double click on the name and u can change it unless it was another problem..thx again

  • "So I can't comment"

    Holy crap you sound a lot like Brad Pitt, especially at that point. Anyways, thanks for the helpful video, it came in handy ;).

  • Great tutorial- really helpful :-)

  • nifty!

  • Very nice.

  • a sphincter?

  • Nice vid man!

    Any chance youve figured out how to do this sort of thing to Rex files? I cant get LFO hooked up to the gate on the Dr-Rex and Ive tried using a NN-XT but I cant quite sort it. I just want each key to trigger a different slice and still get that glitch sound.

    Keep on Reasoning!

  • I know what you're saying! The Rex only has Slice output jack - no real midi controls, EVEN though it accepts true MIDI from the keys! So here's an idea.

    Put the Rex in a combinator, and wire up an LFO to the Combinator's Gate in. Make sure your rex is set to "Recieve Notes" in the programmer. You may have to create a subtractor-gate to keep it from sounding off all the time. This way, it should recieve Gate events from the LFO, and Note events from the keys? Worth a try.

  • Alternately, you could wire up a RV7000 after your Rex, set it to ECHO algorithm with a delay time of 20-40ms.  Dry/wet 50%. Use the GATE mode CV either Matrix it or Combinate it with your rex (recieve notes [x]). Don't forget to hit "Gate Enable" on the front.

  • Thanks for the advice, but Im afraid I still dont have that glitchy snare rush sound Im looking for. Connecting the LFO to the combinators gate just didnt seem to work. I did however have a lot of fun with the RV7000 in the combinator so thanks for that. Let me know if you ever figure something out!

  • Ace did it again. +5

    I am new to Reason world and your videos make things a lot easier, especially the patches.

    Thanks again

  • can i download that patch?

  • message me with your email address.

  • Can I use Reason just as an effectprocessor on my Guitar?

  • nope Not unless you want to prerecord everything as a Wav. You can use something like Reaktor, Fruity Loops Studio, or your Creative Sound Card's Builtin atmospherics drivers. EAX it's called, if you have one, not that flexible though.

  • Very helpful. I'm getting reason 4 soon, and i want to know how to make a good guitar sound in reason using the synths/samplers/distortion. Should I load my own samples or make a dr. rex loop? which is better?

  • Use Rex if you just want to record a riff. It will be simpler than trying to hypersample a guitar.

    You'd be surprised how good some of the "combinator > Guitar" patches sound. Even the ones in the factory sound bank. I use them often.

  • Great video!

    I don't have the time to check this out now myself, but one thought: Do you really need to turn off the keyboard tracking? (If you actually want to be able to play notes with the instrument)

  • Yes. The reason is that you are not actually triggering the NN-19 with the keyboard, or even the sequencer for that matter. The NN-19 is being triggered by the Subtractor's LFO, and thus does not recieve anything other than Gate signals. If you play with Keyb. tracking ON, only the first "grain" takes your keyboard pitch, and the rest default to C.

    If you really want to play notes, you'll have to use Matrix's Note output.

  • Thanks for the video response...

    Perhaps you should check out my Refill...

    Called Blue Chip...its a the Propellerhead site and my own site...

    Maybe it may inspire you with some tutorial ideas...

    ;-)

  • That's great routing. How did you learn all that?

  • Once you know envelopes, it all makes sense. It took me I stumbled upon the LFO>Gate routing on a guess. Cool that it works! Seems as long as you send a signal greater than 63, it triggers gate. I have an Envelope tutorial if you need pointers.

  • For sure man, matrix never has been kind to me so I'll always bet on a different way, great tut man!

  • Dude, you rock, I used to get that effect with a matrix gate out routed to a redrum gate in channel 3 to 5, which are the ones that got start knob bue matrix has always been tricky for me, I like yours most, props to you man!

  • good idea! hadn't thought of that method.  You could substitute a Redrum for the nn19 in this tutorial for similar effect. But you lose the pitch bend/mod wheel controls... Skip the matrix though. Use LFO!

  • One question,if I one to get a resolution smaller than the one that the LFO gives me, how do I do it? instead of 1/32? I've been thinking about the redrum, it gives a resolution as small as 1/128 (A GRAINTABLE!!!) you could get a pseudo malström...

  • just turn off "SYNC". You can get higher than 1/32. Listen to the difference. Not sure if it's 1/128, but it's damn fast, and being able to adjust fine increments makes for better sound.

  • there's nobody greater than you man... :')

  • Another amazing video. Thanks! Keep them coming!

  • I'm kind of running out of tricks! But glad you enjoy them.

  • wow..dude you def got some skills in programing in Reason...Glad that you are posting this stuff..its really interesting to watch and try..thanks!!

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