Ah I do the same thing when watching movies xD luckily I have a couple friends that enjoy guessing/making up possible plot twists that may appear later in the movie. It makes it all worth it when a friend annoyed by this turns to me when a plot twist I predicted is true and is like, "HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?" To which I reply, "I'm fucking magic."
Funny thing was that I for some reason interpreted the trailer as the main character being dead so me and my friend were talking about whether he was dead or not the whole movie. To me the trailer completely destroyed the movie.
You claim that it was your different way of watching the movie that allowed you to see the deception. But fact is that you had one crucial piece of info before watching it: You knew that there would be an important plot twist (aka deception) at the end of the movie. So all you did was to combine this info with the subject of the movie (I see dead people) and with what happens to Willis early on.
But in religions you don't have knowledge of such a plot twist in the end!
@Rawlsrocks no but he did say he made one assumption from this evidence, and personally i took it that the reasonable assumption made by young atheists is that religions are false BECAUSE people seem much too certain. so its the initial assumption that allows us to then deduce the false nature of claims about any god. we don't just stop checking however. the reason a lot of atheists are quite active is that most of us, i think, still want more information, just to be sure.
oh wow !! you analyse film too!! lmao! ...done it for years and likewise the truth it often in what is "not said" so to watch/ listen intently gives you the best chance to decipher the actual "truth" ........brilliant we do indeed have much in common ...although I admit I have yet to read as many books !, best wishes ....good video
I find that I do the exact same thing when it comes to movies, TV shows and even commercials - camera angles, actor's body language, props, lighting, dialogue, etc. are all clues to the bigger picture. When I watched Shudder Island I knew almost from the get-go what the twist was . . .
This video, along with 70% of all your videos go to my favourites list. About that bad habit, I do it all the time, and like your friends, my friends don't like it either :). I found that it isn't enough to sit and watch, and be "entertained", like you said it's our time, we get to do what we want with it, I choose to explore, and find the twist's as you put it :)
@fishybishbash I'm "absolutely certain" you've been indoctribated into your religeon as a child, were told to stay away from anything that might make you think that god doesn't have to exist, and now you're uneducated because of that. When you realize why you yourself, don't believe in any other religeon, you'll understand why I don't believe in yours. Have fun then,
Brilliant, simply brilliant. On a separate note I find it purely ridiculous that people even get mad at supposed 'spoilers' for any movie over a year old.
I figured this movie out almost the same way as yourself. I also figured out Fight Club. I just can't stop my brain from doing it. Sometimes it's annoying.
I'm not as smart as you and definitely not as well spoken, but I got the plot twist of the sixth sense right away too. The "I see dead people" trailer gave it away far too easily as you said.
Want to see the real Garden of Eden? Take a look at my videos. I'm the guy who discovered it. As far as religion goes- it does nothing for you, but Jesus will introduce you to His Father if you'll let Him. God is real and so is lucifer. Both want you, but only 1 loves you- figure it out
i broke my arm in the 1st grade. i had to go to new york to get it fixed. there i met a man that lived in the apt we were staying at. he told me that everything was made by god. the chair, the water, etc. he also told me bout hell, and for the time i believed. they try to trick u when ur young. they want you to unquestionable accept god. and a child would easily believe it, thinking that the adult knows everything. ur videos brought me to the real light. ur changing the minds of an entire gen...
Isn't it amazing how people can make "I'm praying for you" sound like a threat or guilt-invoking? Wondering... :3
All it takes is a different perspective, and just like that, everything seems...special, funny even. To be able to see things in a different light- that's not belief. THAT'S CRITICAL THINKING.
I haven't seen them all yet so I can't say for certain that you're not a racist, but I'm going to see if I can Mycroft your Sherlock and say, "I am disinclined to concur on the voracity of the assertion that you carry the affliction of xenophobia."
Mind-bendingly powerful. You have again outdone yourself. I wish I had seen this video when I was a lad, for it would have perhaps diverted me from two plus decades of self-loathing. Cheers, seriously.
You atheist spend as much time trying to convince christians that God isn't real that you claim christians spend on you atheists. Oh my, that's a bit hypocritical isn't it? I'll pray for you.
@janedoe12390 oh wow you've just converted me! Do you know how silly you seem right now? What you said would like me writing on a napkin "This napkin is the one true religion, because it says so right here on this napkin. Also, if you don't think this napkin is the one true religion, you're a stupid poopy face!" That is what your bible is to me, a napkin procaiming it knows what the truth is because it says on the napkin that it is the truth, then calling me names if I don't agree.
I heeded the claxon of utter ruin! I just finished watching the sixth sense, and I enjoyed it even though it gave me the heebie jeebies. Anyway, the movie was pretty much ruined for me, because I knew the ending, because the bastards SPOIL IT ROTTEN IN 50 FIRST DATES. They just flat out reveal the ending! If you haven''t seen the sixth sense, but plan to, DO NOT watch 50 first dates before you do! Stupid bastards ><
"There has to be a reason non-believers don't believe. The believer must not even for a second consider the possibility that the reason is reason itself." ....what a brilliant quote!!
I still have yet to find religious person who can answer to a points pulled in this video.Great source of inspiration while debating to a "sheeps" .Thank u and keep em coming !!!
You are so incredibly charismatic! I envy you so much. I must have watched this 20 times now. Keep up the good work and thanks for your kind words when I needed them :)
@philhellenes I differ slightly. I think this is the best of them all. On the subject, it’s my favorite of favorites. “We’re not watching the same movie”- chilling. Great soundtrack- especially Tchaikovsky’s 6th. Thank you!
predictive programing is common in movies....i can normal tell who will die in a film by there first line of dialog.....and yea as soon as you see willis on the bench you know he is dead ....if your not already deep in a hypnotic coma!
Ok, so what do you think of Silence of the Lambs? What do you think of the psychotic who wears other people's skin..literally? And what do you surmise about Hannibal the cannibal, and that he felt the boring should be eaten?
There are patterns and messages everywhere, Phil. Your state of mind helps you perceive them.
Its so simple to attack my ''religon'' while i was talking to a person who claimed he could provide evidence that god didnt not exist!
What do i have to do with this, why even debate my religon when someone says he can ''provide'' evidence...
Did i say he was false or right? Did i say i was false or right? No i didnt, so stop replying on my and lets wait for the person who said he could provide proof that god is not real... I never claimed anything but he did so put him on trial!
@Lizzio1980 Its hard to accept that there is no such thing as nothing, but when you understand this you do not have to know the beginning. Life is the answer not the question!!!
To make it clear 1time again. I never said i could show evidence of god's form, but the a person did claim it he didnt existed and he said he could proof it with evidence. Now my qeustion to this person was where is your evidence ''not arguments or theory's'' but EVIDENCE...
What has my religon/viewpoint or opion to do anyting with this dicussion, did he not claim to have evidence and show me hes ''truth''? I never said i could proof god's form but i simply belief it by in faith.
@Lizzio1980 this make take a while but heres just a few of the places you lied "In 1400years There was no single person who could provide any contradictions in the quran". Theres mountains of archelogical and scholarly evidence. You lie.
"You are trying to let me claim the bible is not truth while you never showed me anything that contradicted the quran" I have shown you a number of contradictions/untruths, and you quibble I am out of context with verse.
@Lizzio1980 "Dont you even know the quran talks about a big bang explained by scolars?" outright horseshit I had to laugh.
"Ok so people knew 1400years ago that the moon is not a light but a relefction of light?... they knew the earth was a egg-shape and not flat.. nor round? these people knew there was a small crack in the moon?". Nothing here said th qu'ran was responsible, ppl knew this years before.
@Lizzio1980 said "Tell me how did the universe exist... by nothing?" Honest people will admit that they don't know how the universe exists. There are plenty of ideas, and it is true that some of those ideas have been studied and that some factual data has offered some legitimacy moving these ideas nearer into the realm of scientific theories. But these same honest people will also admit that the absence of knowledge does not mean a god made it happen since that too lacks proof.
@Lizzio1980 "tell me people could know things that no-one knew before or later after them. trust me if we would go to a trial i would win and you lose." Lies yet again. "historical evidence, eye-witnesses, scriptures that go back in time, prophecies that came true and science that could never known 1400years ago" yet again this is enormously refuted, consider the iron example. "You FORGET YOU DENIED GOD you said YOU COULD PROOF GOD DIDNT EXIST" Lie. I said YOUR god didnt exist, and he doesnt ;)
@shkotay What are the lies, do the scriptures not go back 1600/2000/4000years?
Did not nations saw them according to other scriptures then religon scriptires?
Arent there historical evidence found and prophecies that came true?
WHAT ARE THE LIES YOU CLAIMED I SAID NO WHERE!? Dont call me a liar and i also never claimed you said that you could provide evidence but a difrent person you just replied on me for no reason...
@Lizzio1980 Oh the scriptures go back sure, but wothout corroborating evidence and their making claims of things we have not seen even ONCE since then makes it exrememly unlikely to an outright lie that they were or are telling the truth. Thus when you use the scriptures as evidence you are using something with no substantiation, you claim its truth when its not, thus you lied. And I posted like a few examples of how you lied to keep religion standing but i suppose that wasnt enough :D
@Lizzio1980 Thats just a few of the many you had to tell without any grounding or proof. You make the claims, you have to provide the proof. And an ancient contradictory text doesnt cut it. Anyways the "you have made a number of posts" function is getting annoying. :D Remember, my only proof needed is "theres nothing there". All you have to do is show me one undisputable supernatural act we can verify as godly. Just one. Make that coin lift out of my hand just one inch :D
@Lizzio1980 Surah 96 Al Alaq: "Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forelock". Send them to come drag me by the nasty forelocks then ;) I await their nasty selves. Once again you lie - I never claimed a universal creator didnt exist, just that your qu'ran god didnt. Once again, since you will ignore this and lie yet again - my only proof is "theres nothing going on there". And there isnt. if the spirits abhor liars then you are in trouble ;)
@Lizzio1980 ,Give me hard evidence that the koran indisputably and unambigiously, without any need for interpretation propones now well-established fact or theories that the writers of it could not possibly have known off/arrived at by mere observation and analysis before scientists did.
@Lizzio1980 Ahhh okay so you are saying "back off" then. I was too lazy to quote the verse number, just smacking through the pages, yet they are in there and if you knew the qu'ran well you would know where to look. Just admit it, just say "I dont really know". Thats all you have to do. Well at least you are now claining it wasnt a real even anymore and just taking it on faith. At least now you are becoming more truthful for once.
@shkotay sorry but do you even know how many verses the quran has? i am not a quranic expert so i do not know all these words/verses out of my head... tell me the vers number and i explain it.. i always claimed i belief in god's form by faith i never did say i can proof hes form... also believing in something by faith dosnt it make real? what kind of argument is that... you still didnt show me evidence or a strong argument or historical evidence or science that god dosnt exist
@Lizzio1980 Lmao I am showing you arguments and evidence you will not accept. I have provided challenges you cannot meet. I have made you lie and go back on your statements many times to justify your belief and claim that the miracles were true, that 'god' made it all. You have to lie and ignore it all to stay up, and thats ok. I expected that from somebody too afraid to ask the tough questions. If the claims made by the qu'ran were solid, they wouldnt need your lies.
@shkotay Wich evidence and arguments are you claiming that challenged me? what lies did i come up with please tell me??
Wich lie did i puted on the video-section please do tell me and answer me this time.
Making it clear again where its all about. A person claimed god didnt exist i asked him where is hes proof of god dosnt exist he said he had it but ever showed me it. So what does has my religon to do anything with this dicussion is the person who claims something he has evidence for
I think a very important point is people who DIDN'T know there was a twist in the movie weren't looking for it. Their mind wasn't in a state of disbelief, looking for proof like yours was. That state is what every family raised religious person is in. Only until videos like yours and the internet in general tell them 'hey, there's a massive twist in this' do they start to look. It takes time but it will happen.
I keep coming back to this video to watch it again. It's epic! I especially love the speech at the end that says "Because we're not watching the same movie" followed by "And that is atheism"! Also, the references to the net, the rope, web, and how atheists see this stuff and dodge it.
I remember watching the sixth sense for the first time and coming to the same conclusion very early on. It's interesting to think that the same part of me that was sceptical that Bruce Willis survived the gunshot is in some ways the same part of me that is sceptical of bible stories and religious and supernatural claims.
Well made point. There is an unfortunate movement within many religious groups to reject reason as "the enemy of faith". A "faith" based on fear and ignorance seems worthless and hardly something to be respected.
WRT the movie -- I missed the twist, but thought it seemed an odd movie due to Bruce Willis' character having no interaction. Obvious in hindsight, of course.
I don't envy you analysing movies as you watch them, though. Too much like work!
Ok, religion is a societal construct, but what about sense reality and science? Couldn't those things be "twists" as well? If you abide extremely to reason(which would be impossible), then surely nihilism is the only way to go. Is there really an objectively "better" metaphysical point of view? Is there anything objective at all?
Reason is relative. What is reasonable and what is certain is relative.
Morals come from our similar physiology which informs our mutual interests wants needs capabilities and weaknesses. Mutual agreements to compromise the personal for the sake of the group is the basis for all morality.
Morals are a social construction. Societies make morals in order to maintain themselves. They COME from our physicality and facts about our nature like being vulnerable to physical harm either through direct attack to our body or to an attack to our peripheral support mechanisms
I think the answer to morality's origin is more of a spectrum. As pessimism is to optimism, internal moral origin is to external moral origin. Societal values versus personal values. Morality =/= religion, though.
Also kind of like authoritarian versus democratic. Where do we draw the mid-line? And what are the most extreme points of this spectrum?
If you think about it, empiricism versus rationalism can fall in the same direction. but which has proof and evidence?
You forgot the best part, that we're not shocked at the end, that we don't have a fear that we weren't intelligent enough to have figured things out on our own.
I saw Red Friday spam today and I had a hunch it that something was wrong with such a movement. It seems to be a political message that supports the conservative agenda, especially with words "It will not be long before the USA is covered in RED". Support your troops equates to support our political agenda. Reason allowed me to see this agenda, and thus could see the rope and run. More people need learn to see the net!
I think you have to be a bit more than “reasonably” certain that Christianity and Islam are false. The stakes are pretty high. Eternal fire and all. It's good that I’m about 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain that they are false.
Phil, you and my wife are the same in this regard. However, while you were an analyst & a detective about it, the Mrs just assumed, straight out, that Bruce was a ghost. To her it just seemed utterly obvious - she then spent the next 90 minutes waiting for the awesome twist everyone was talking about! Naturally she was very unimpressed. "THAT was the twist? I want my 12 bucks back."
I have always wondered whats the rush,we just got here.These people always say hurry give your life to jesus,allah or whatever,before you die.They always get angery at me when I say I will make my decision after I die.Then they say its too late.Thats when I started realizing this is a Game!!
@ScottTheAtheist you don't know that for sure because you can't see the movie without knowing the plot twist and compare your experience.i watched this video right before i watched the movie because of my own stupidity and ir ruined the movie for me. however if it wasn't for this video i wouldn't have seen the movie til this day :D
@yamimakaiz Well yeah, but I still enjoyed it quite a lot. Ruin implies that I can't enjoy it - I would've loved to have seen it without knowing but shows like family guy blurted out the plot twist as a joke. I'll never know if it would've surprised me or not.
All the same I enjoyed all the stuff M Night was doing to cover it up, that was before his career went to hell. :P
Does it matter for any of you that the other is wrong ? IF yes, isn't that because you are unsure yourself about your belief ? Why don't you just go outside and get some fresh air, and stop debating about everything you can on this small planet . Philhellenes i woudln't like it if you would tell me from the start the essence of a movie . People go there to watch it and figure it out themselves. You know it yourself, it's not as entertaining when you do a quiz while looking at an answer page
@HKragh Doubt it, many atheists who think they are right never even read the quran.
There are many debate's on youtube about muslims, atheists and christanity debating eachother, instead of watching this video i rather watch a debate/movie where its proven that one or the other is false or not right.
@h2321 This is were you are wrong, people need to hear/read the story beforing know it. You actually think everyone on this planet know what ''Snow white'' is...
@Lizzio1980 WTF are you blabbering on about? You would rather watch a video that spoon feeds you information, biased information on something that can never be proven? Your crazy.
Brilliant as always.
Kaddywompous 5 days ago
Thirty two people hadn't watched The Sixth Sense before watching this video.
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@DannKast Way more than that, it's just that only 32 of them decided to be dicks about it. :P
Nepycros 1 week ago
@Nepycros So true, so true. lol
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Ah I do the same thing when watching movies xD luckily I have a couple friends that enjoy guessing/making up possible plot twists that may appear later in the movie. It makes it all worth it when a friend annoyed by this turns to me when a plot twist I predicted is true and is like, "HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?" To which I reply, "I'm fucking magic."
LiftYourSkinnyFist 1 month ago
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LiftYourSkinnyFist 1 month ago
Funny thing was that I for some reason interpreted the trailer as the main character being dead so me and my friend were talking about whether he was dead or not the whole movie. To me the trailer completely destroyed the movie.
Twokubikmeter 1 month ago in playlist Fler videoklipp från philhellenes
One flaw in your story:
You claim that it was your different way of watching the movie that allowed you to see the deception. But fact is that you had one crucial piece of info before watching it: You knew that there would be an important plot twist (aka deception) at the end of the movie. So all you did was to combine this info with the subject of the movie (I see dead people) and with what happens to Willis early on.
But in religions you don't have knowledge of such a plot twist in the end!
Rawlsrocks 1 month ago
@Rawlsrocks no but he did say he made one assumption from this evidence, and personally i took it that the reasonable assumption made by young atheists is that religions are false BECAUSE people seem much too certain. so its the initial assumption that allows us to then deduce the false nature of claims about any god. we don't just stop checking however. the reason a lot of atheists are quite active is that most of us, i think, still want more information, just to be sure.
callumnik117 1 month ago
Dude, I'm subscribing now...
enyskept 2 months ago
I plan on watching this with my Girlfriend, who just so happens to be an 'orthidox' christian.
TheGodSlayingMachine 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Excellent! You do your species proud.
mutalix 3 months ago
oh wow !! you analyse film too!! lmao! ...done it for years and likewise the truth it often in what is "not said" so to watch/ listen intently gives you the best chance to decipher the actual "truth" ........brilliant we do indeed have much in common ...although I admit I have yet to read as many books !, best wishes ....good video
dooksization 3 months ago
God Rests in Reason
PhoenixAquua2012 3 months ago in playlist Theism/Atheism Debate
loved it, great work!
IronPatriot74 4 months ago
brilliant!
Spanxxx 4 months ago
I've always preferred the SNL version of the famous line: "I see dumb people, and they don't know they're dumb!"
txvoltaire 5 months ago
Carl Sagan passed away and Phil Hellenes took his place...
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
(Another) fantastic video!!
Please do let us know what the soundtrack is too! :)
purerizzo 5 months ago
I find that I do the exact same thing when it comes to movies, TV shows and even commercials - camera angles, actor's body language, props, lighting, dialogue, etc. are all clues to the bigger picture. When I watched Shudder Island I knew almost from the get-go what the twist was . . .
rictusgate 6 months ago in playlist Videos from philhellenes
OH YEAH? IF GOD DIDN'T REAL THEN HOW DOES THE MOON?
Christians: 10,000
athiest: 0
Check mate.
eddydbod 6 months ago 2
@eddydbod LOL!!!!!
EWWYOURFAC3 5 months ago
@eddydbod ........
what?
cpu46 5 months ago
@cpu46 satire
eddydbod 5 months ago
@eddydbod Ah, i thought as much.
cpu46 5 months ago
Thank you Mr. Phil, for sharing this. I find your films to be very uplifting. : )
IzaakTaltos 6 months ago
Absolutely brilliant!
kevinyang101 6 months ago
Maaaan. I wish I could do something like that. I get too into the movie to noticed things like that. D:
Though I do try to look for the twist.
exodus9001 6 months ago
You Beautiful amazing incredible human. Stop picking on the monkey and kick the Organ grinder in the Balls. For All mankind
PaulypowerUK 6 months ago
This video, along with 70% of all your videos go to my favourites list. About that bad habit, I do it all the time, and like your friends, my friends don't like it either :). I found that it isn't enough to sit and watch, and be "entertained", like you said it's our time, we get to do what we want with it, I choose to explore, and find the twist's as you put it :)
LeCapitaineBaker 6 months ago
Lol, I got the same issue. Not so much with twists though but when watching a horror movie I keep judging the director and such ;p.
Londron 6 months ago
I got the same "problem" as u, that I'm 50% trying to find "the twist", or even if it's no twist I will know what comes next..
I did not see the trailer or heard the quote (I see dead people), but I still got it around the same time u did.
But then again, u can not prove it. But when do can't dis-proved it, u just proved it... Just like all law off physics.
MrRuuudy 7 months ago
@MrRuuudy well, atleast now i know that two other people do it too
DaEternalDragon 7 months ago
@fishybishbash I'm "absolutely certain" you've been indoctribated into your religeon as a child, were told to stay away from anything that might make you think that god doesn't have to exist, and now you're uneducated because of that. When you realize why you yourself, don't believe in any other religeon, you'll understand why I don't believe in yours. Have fun then,
TheWolf2123 7 months ago
wonderful video. what was the name of the song towards the end
Supertictac811 7 months ago
Brilliant, simply brilliant. On a separate note I find it purely ridiculous that people even get mad at supposed 'spoilers' for any movie over a year old.
e51269 7 months ago
Wow, awesome. If my favourites had a favourite, this would be it!
JUSTHELLBENT 8 months ago
I believe Mr. Hellenes is a honest and smart person.
I can't be sure, but I am reasonably certain.
analukahuna 8 months ago 15
I never figured out the ending twist to The Sixth Sense but for some reason I figured out the answer in every Dan Brown novel I've read.
deedubya286 8 months ago
Thanks Phil.
I figured this movie out almost the same way as yourself. I also figured out Fight Club. I just can't stop my brain from doing it. Sometimes it's annoying.
StarDustSid 8 months ago
FAVORITE PART: 0:00 - 14:30!!!!
jr14103 8 months ago
He was a ghost? LOL I've seen that movie 5 times and never noticed that.
dutchbb1979 8 months ago
I'm not as smart as you and definitely not as well spoken, but I got the plot twist of the sixth sense right away too. The "I see dead people" trailer gave it away far too easily as you said.
sikViduser 8 months ago
What's the song at the end of the video?
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Want to see the real Garden of Eden? Take a look at my videos. I'm the guy who discovered it. As far as religion goes- it does nothing for you, but Jesus will introduce you to His Father if you'll let Him. God is real and so is lucifer. Both want you, but only 1 loves you- figure it out
downyourtube 8 months ago
The best of the best. We miss your videos, Phil.
accent77 8 months ago
Oh someone elses God! That was brill! Really great analogy!
akrulla 8 months ago
but u dont have to watch a movie to watch this ?
sexyxrs 8 months ago
Perfectly awesome.
zwaynetska 8 months ago
i broke my arm in the 1st grade. i had to go to new york to get it fixed. there i met a man that lived in the apt we were staying at. he told me that everything was made by god. the chair, the water, etc. he also told me bout hell, and for the time i believed. they try to trick u when ur young. they want you to unquestionable accept god. and a child would easily believe it, thinking that the adult knows everything. ur videos brought me to the real light. ur changing the minds of an entire gen...
ervin920 9 months ago
@janedoe12390
Isn't it amazing how people can make "I'm praying for you" sound like a threat or guilt-invoking? Wondering... :3
All it takes is a different perspective, and just like that, everything seems...special, funny even. To be able to see things in a different light- that's not belief. THAT'S CRITICAL THINKING.
MindOfGenius 9 months ago
@philhellenes
I really enjoy your videos.
I haven't seen them all yet so I can't say for certain that you're not a racist, but I'm going to see if I can Mycroft your Sherlock and say, "I am disinclined to concur on the voracity of the assertion that you carry the affliction of xenophobia."
Means I don't think so.
Omegahybridx 9 months ago
Okay, we get it. You figured out the plot twist to one movie. Get over yourself!
MrPlaid81 9 months ago
@MrPlaid81
Is that all you got out of this? A pity.
bowlsallbroken 8 months ago
Mind-bendingly powerful. You have again outdone yourself. I wish I had seen this video when I was a lad, for it would have perhaps diverted me from two plus decades of self-loathing. Cheers, seriously.
smpaudio 9 months ago
You atheist spend as much time trying to convince christians that God isn't real that you claim christians spend on you atheists. Oh my, that's a bit hypocritical isn't it? I'll pray for you.
janedoe12390 9 months ago
I feel sorry for you. Your lack of belief doesn't make it any less real. A fool says in his heart there is no God. ps 14:1
janedoe12390 9 months ago
@janedoe12390 oh wow you've just converted me! Do you know how silly you seem right now? What you said would like me writing on a napkin "This napkin is the one true religion, because it says so right here on this napkin. Also, if you don't think this napkin is the one true religion, you're a stupid poopy face!" That is what your bible is to me, a napkin procaiming it knows what the truth is because it says on the napkin that it is the truth, then calling me names if I don't agree.
PachikaInTheFagBox 9 months ago
I heeded the claxon of utter ruin! I just finished watching the sixth sense, and I enjoyed it even though it gave me the heebie jeebies. Anyway, the movie was pretty much ruined for me, because I knew the ending, because the bastards SPOIL IT ROTTEN IN 50 FIRST DATES. They just flat out reveal the ending! If you haven''t seen the sixth sense, but plan to, DO NOT watch 50 first dates before you do! Stupid bastards ><
tempo3rd 9 months ago
I love your work, Phil, thanks for this video. I wish I could show it to everyone I know and want to help out of this mind-maze.
PixelSlayer247 9 months ago 2
good use of Mike Rutherford's music at @13:02 Great video as always, Phil.
panurge987 9 months ago
"There has to be a reason non-believers don't believe. The believer must not even for a second consider the possibility that the reason is reason itself." ....what a brilliant quote!!
Duncdagger 9 months ago 5
You just blew my freakin' mind! *subscribed
kilroy227 9 months ago 2
I still have yet to find religious person who can answer to a points pulled in this video.Great source of inspiration while debating to a "sheeps" .Thank u and keep em coming !!!
StevanSRB 9 months ago
You are so incredibly charismatic! I envy you so much. I must have watched this 20 times now. Keep up the good work and thanks for your kind words when I needed them :)
Samasan420 9 months ago
haaang on
you didnt tell us to finish watching 12 monkeys too!
GaryAnonOak 9 months ago
The Jesus @ 1:45 of your video has a mullet ! That's as far as I needed to watch. God clearly doesn't exist
Idlemindswander 9 months ago 2
Smallcreeps Day Music at the end!!! Woo HOOOOOOO!
Traceoffate 9 months ago
Another awesome one, thanks.
GreatBigBore 10 months ago 9
@GreatBigBore Bows and salutes. :)
philhellenes 10 months ago 5
@philhellenes I'm absolutely certain that you have no more idea than anyone else about how the hell this all got here -
fishybishbash 7 months ago
@philhellenes I differ slightly. I think this is the best of them all. On the subject, it’s my favorite of favorites. “We’re not watching the same movie”- chilling. Great soundtrack- especially Tchaikovsky’s 6th. Thank you!
pjkilmer 5 months ago
Congratulations on your 3,000th like!
Pokemaster14 10 months ago
I watched the sixth sense just to watch this video. I don't regret it.
mattmar826 10 months ago 29
"Because we're not watching the same movie..."
The combination of the music and the sheer wisdom of what's being said here gives me the shivers every time.
JJMDude 10 months ago 3
predictive programing is common in movies....i can normal tell who will die in a film by there first line of dialog.....and yea as soon as you see willis on the bench you know he is dead ....if your not already deep in a hypnotic coma!
mrsuperbafrango 10 months ago
This must have been a difficult vodeo to watch for some, but cognitive dissonace is a powerful thing.
Kerouac0deciple 10 months ago
haha you sound exsactly like me except your a genius and ima 15 year old and dumb hahahhaha!
UFCbrendanortiz1 10 months ago
Great video, it is very good to depict the logic behind the frugality principle like you did.
And btw:
Phil, your musical taste is much the same like my father's ;).
mardastheEitheist 10 months ago
Beautiful video, thank you very much. Heh, now If I watch that movie, I already know. :3
EmilyLightning 10 months ago
@ilikepiecuzitspie The Big Bang is in NO WAY supported by Christianity...
gregory06 10 months ago
I think is fascinating how you use a movie from the most religious director i know, to show how wonderful and liberating been a atheist is!
DuduMaroja 10 months ago
Ok, so what do you think of Silence of the Lambs? What do you think of the psychotic who wears other people's skin..literally? And what do you surmise about Hannibal the cannibal, and that he felt the boring should be eaten?
There are patterns and messages everywhere, Phil. Your state of mind helps you perceive them.
xy11xy 10 months ago
Wow! I was sure when Willis sat on the bed next to his widowed wife.
Milleymusic 11 months ago
Its so simple to attack my ''religon'' while i was talking to a person who claimed he could provide evidence that god didnt not exist!
What do i have to do with this, why even debate my religon when someone says he can ''provide'' evidence...
Did i say he was false or right? Did i say i was false or right? No i didnt, so stop replying on my and lets wait for the person who said he could provide proof that god is not real... I never claimed anything but he did so put him on trial!
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Its hard to accept that there is no such thing as nothing, but when you understand this you do not have to know the beginning. Life is the answer not the question!!!
Milleymusic 11 months ago
To make it clear 1time again. I never said i could show evidence of god's form, but the a person did claim it he didnt existed and he said he could proof it with evidence. Now my qeustion to this person was where is your evidence ''not arguments or theory's'' but EVIDENCE...
What has my religon/viewpoint or opion to do anyting with this dicussion, did he not claim to have evidence and show me hes ''truth''? I never said i could proof god's form but i simply belief it by in faith.
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 this make take a while but heres just a few of the places you lied "In 1400years There was no single person who could provide any contradictions in the quran". Theres mountains of archelogical and scholarly evidence. You lie.
"You are trying to let me claim the bible is not truth while you never showed me anything that contradicted the quran" I have shown you a number of contradictions/untruths, and you quibble I am out of context with verse.
shkotay 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 "Dont you even know the quran talks about a big bang explained by scolars?" outright horseshit I had to laugh.
"Ok so people knew 1400years ago that the moon is not a light but a relefction of light?... they knew the earth was a egg-shape and not flat.. nor round? these people knew there was a small crack in the moon?". Nothing here said th qu'ran was responsible, ppl knew this years before.
shkotay 11 months ago
@shkotay People knew the big-bang theory? the people knew there was a small crack in the moon? hmm sure they did go and lie somewhere els.
Tell me how did the universe exist... by nothing?
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 said "Tell me how did the universe exist... by nothing?" Honest people will admit that they don't know how the universe exists. There are plenty of ideas, and it is true that some of those ideas have been studied and that some factual data has offered some legitimacy moving these ideas nearer into the realm of scientific theories. But these same honest people will also admit that the absence of knowledge does not mean a god made it happen since that too lacks proof.
whanethewhip 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 "tell me people could know things that no-one knew before or later after them. trust me if we would go to a trial i would win and you lose." Lies yet again. "historical evidence, eye-witnesses, scriptures that go back in time, prophecies that came true and science that could never known 1400years ago" yet again this is enormously refuted, consider the iron example. "You FORGET YOU DENIED GOD you said YOU COULD PROOF GOD DIDNT EXIST" Lie. I said YOUR god didnt exist, and he doesnt ;)
shkotay 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 "1st evidence: Its recoreded in scriptures that go back to those years when it happend
2nd evidence: whole nations saw, believed, heard and witnessed these mircales
3rd evidence: Eye-witnesses that also wrote things down these things happend
4th evidence: Historical evidence that things happend like prophecies from the books
Inside the quran there is science that people 1400years never could knew"
Outrageous lies all around and yet again YOU take your god from the supernatural lol
shkotay 11 months ago
@shkotay What are the lies, do the scriptures not go back 1600/2000/4000years?
Did not nations saw them according to other scriptures then religon scriptires?
Arent there historical evidence found and prophecies that came true?
WHAT ARE THE LIES YOU CLAIMED I SAID NO WHERE!? Dont call me a liar and i also never claimed you said that you could provide evidence but a difrent person you just replied on me for no reason...
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Oh the scriptures go back sure, but wothout corroborating evidence and their making claims of things we have not seen even ONCE since then makes it exrememly unlikely to an outright lie that they were or are telling the truth. Thus when you use the scriptures as evidence you are using something with no substantiation, you claim its truth when its not, thus you lied. And I posted like a few examples of how you lied to keep religion standing but i suppose that wasnt enough :D
shkotay 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Thats just a few of the many you had to tell without any grounding or proof. You make the claims, you have to provide the proof. And an ancient contradictory text doesnt cut it. Anyways the "you have made a number of posts" function is getting annoying. :D Remember, my only proof needed is "theres nothing there". All you have to do is show me one undisputable supernatural act we can verify as godly. Just one. Make that coin lift out of my hand just one inch :D
shkotay 11 months ago
to be on the trial. Also you keep saying i lied, please tell me about what?
Also what kind of evidence ''or historical evidence'' did you show me?...
what did i ignore?
also sorry if i cant answer all your qeustions in time i need to reply on 3persons on the same time.
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
Tools made as early as 4600 years before mohammed, was found to be made with iron from meteorites.
Funny that iron is the only element mentioned in the koran in a time when that element was the only one known...
thegalwegian 11 months ago
@thegalwegian so what does that say?.... or proof?
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
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@Lizzio1980 "so what does that say?.... or proof?" What are you referring to?
thegalwegian 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 , It hints at the likelyhood that the koran was written by a human and not a god which it claims it was.
thegalwegian 11 months ago
I never claimed i could proof god's form... but instead i said i belief it by faith
He claimed god's form didnt exist and he could proof this
I said i only have a cases that back me up he has none... see the diffrence now?
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Surah 96 Al Alaq: "Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forelock". Send them to come drag me by the nasty forelocks then ;) I await their nasty selves. Once again you lie - I never claimed a universal creator didnt exist, just that your qu'ran god didnt. Once again, since you will ignore this and lie yet again - my only proof is "theres nothing going on there". And there isnt. if the spirits abhor liars then you are in trouble ;)
shkotay 11 months ago
@shkotay Dont qeuote a vers out of its context and tell me the vers numbers...
I never said you said or claimed it but the other person did.. you just jumped into the converasion read my replys better...
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 ,Give me hard evidence that the koran indisputably and unambigiously, without any need for interpretation propones now well-established fact or theories that the writers of it could not possibly have known off/arrived at by mere observation and analysis before scientists did.
thegalwegian 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Ahhh okay so you are saying "back off" then. I was too lazy to quote the verse number, just smacking through the pages, yet they are in there and if you knew the qu'ran well you would know where to look. Just admit it, just say "I dont really know". Thats all you have to do. Well at least you are now claining it wasnt a real even anymore and just taking it on faith. At least now you are becoming more truthful for once.
shkotay 11 months ago
@shkotay sorry but do you even know how many verses the quran has? i am not a quranic expert so i do not know all these words/verses out of my head... tell me the vers number and i explain it.. i always claimed i belief in god's form by faith i never did say i can proof hes form... also believing in something by faith dosnt it make real? what kind of argument is that... you still didnt show me evidence or a strong argument or historical evidence or science that god dosnt exist
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
@Lizzio1980 Lmao I am showing you arguments and evidence you will not accept. I have provided challenges you cannot meet. I have made you lie and go back on your statements many times to justify your belief and claim that the miracles were true, that 'god' made it all. You have to lie and ignore it all to stay up, and thats ok. I expected that from somebody too afraid to ask the tough questions. If the claims made by the qu'ran were solid, they wouldnt need your lies.
shkotay 11 months ago
@shkotay Wich evidence and arguments are you claiming that challenged me? what lies did i come up with please tell me??
Wich lie did i puted on the video-section please do tell me and answer me this time.
Making it clear again where its all about. A person claimed god didnt exist i asked him where is hes proof of god dosnt exist he said he had it but ever showed me it. So what does has my religon to do anything with this dicussion is the person who claims something he has evidence for
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
*i mean claim the quran* its anoying when other people trying to interfer
Lizzio1980 11 months ago
I think a very important point is people who DIDN'T know there was a twist in the movie weren't looking for it. Their mind wasn't in a state of disbelief, looking for proof like yours was. That state is what every family raised religious person is in. Only until videos like yours and the internet in general tell them 'hey, there's a massive twist in this' do they start to look. It takes time but it will happen.
Octamed 11 months ago
I keep coming back to this video to watch it again. It's epic! I especially love the speech at the end that says "Because we're not watching the same movie" followed by "And that is atheism"! Also, the references to the net, the rope, web, and how atheists see this stuff and dodge it.
Scott89878 11 months ago
I remember watching the sixth sense for the first time and coming to the same conclusion very early on. It's interesting to think that the same part of me that was sceptical that Bruce Willis survived the gunshot is in some ways the same part of me that is sceptical of bible stories and religious and supernatural claims.
Toddgpoole 11 months ago
Well made point. There is an unfortunate movement within many religious groups to reject reason as "the enemy of faith". A "faith" based on fear and ignorance seems worthless and hardly something to be respected.
WRT the movie -- I missed the twist, but thought it seemed an odd movie due to Bruce Willis' character having no interaction. Obvious in hindsight, of course.
I don't envy you analysing movies as you watch them, though. Too much like work!
boggisthecat 11 months ago
God damn, your metaphors are brilliant. ;)
...oh and your videos are pretty good too!
TheCuriousSkeptic 11 months ago
Lucky you. Took me 16 years to escape the religious prison. Anyway, this was a beautiful video.
DissenteensInRevolt 11 months ago
2,902 people are reasonably Certain
Trenchbanana 11 months ago
The most epic Atheist Video. of all times.
tilemacro 11 months ago 2
These videos renew my hope for humanity
livinguptomyname 11 months ago 2
And to think, had you read the book beforehand you wouldn't have even needed to go to the movie.
sotuman 11 months ago
Pub quiz game on local pub machine, "What's wrong with Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense? A: He's dead."
Fucking thing already ruined it for me. Knew right from when he got shot.
Still, damn good video. True in all aspects.
RSBladeKeepers 11 months ago
Amazing...as always :)
MsShaliniS 11 months ago
This shall be the first YT video to ever win an Oscar.
At second thought...no, it's actually too good to win an Oscar.
gronkar66 11 months ago 2
Wow - powerful stuff Phil - never thought to compare awakening to atheism to the movie 6th Sense.
It is like the reality religion is rubbish is right in front of our faces. We can see it with our own eyes, and yet so many of us fail to see it.
Kokopilau77 11 months ago
12 monkeys is the worst movie I've ever seen.
BrandurJustinussen 11 months ago
Absolutely magnificent.
galfyproductions 11 months ago
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this is just too good of an analogy
chelseadee3 11 months ago
this is just too good of an analogy
i feel like i am watching a different movie, all of the time
chelseadee3 11 months ago
Ok, religion is a societal construct, but what about sense reality and science? Couldn't those things be "twists" as well? If you abide extremely to reason(which would be impossible), then surely nihilism is the only way to go. Is there really an objectively "better" metaphysical point of view? Is there anything objective at all?
Reason is relative. What is reasonable and what is certain is relative.
absolite 11 months ago
Morals come from our similar physiology which informs our mutual interests wants needs capabilities and weaknesses. Mutual agreements to compromise the personal for the sake of the group is the basis for all morality.
Morals are a social construction. Societies make morals in order to maintain themselves. They COME from our physicality and facts about our nature like being vulnerable to physical harm either through direct attack to our body or to an attack to our peripheral support mechanisms
ExtantFrodo 11 months ago
@ExtantFrodo
I think the answer to morality's origin is more of a spectrum. As pessimism is to optimism, internal moral origin is to external moral origin. Societal values versus personal values. Morality =/= religion, though.
Also kind of like authoritarian versus democratic. Where do we draw the mid-line? And what are the most extreme points of this spectrum?
If you think about it, empiricism versus rationalism can fall in the same direction. but which has proof and evidence?
absolite 11 months ago
Love your videos man truly remarkable.
abortion4life666 11 months ago
You forgot the best part, that we're not shocked at the end, that we don't have a fear that we weren't intelligent enough to have figured things out on our own.
MrSchnuffs 11 months ago
That ending is so trippy that for a second I got a bit of a contact high.
Brilliantly made, though.
Gaz6231 11 months ago
Fantastically worded as usual, Phil.
wyzard29 1 year ago 3
Did you suss out fight club before the end?
krankenshaft 1 year ago 2
I saw Red Friday spam today and I had a hunch it that something was wrong with such a movement. It seems to be a political message that supports the conservative agenda, especially with words "It will not be long before the USA is covered in RED". Support your troops equates to support our political agenda. Reason allowed me to see this agenda, and thus could see the rope and run. More people need learn to see the net!
Scott89878 1 year ago
Awesome video! Like most people I didn't get it until I was told at the end of the movie.
themark462 1 year ago
I'm reasonably certain I like this.
Brusselpicker 1 year ago
Do you think that the human race will ever remove religion, or will it be the end of us all?
cllnighthalk1 1 year ago
This speech traverses beyond words and touches me like music.
Brenaim 1 year ago
Thank You for your time and wisdom
skip1998 1 year ago
Wow. Great stuff once again this goes into my top five along with 2 your other videos.
black190190 1 year ago
I think you have to be a bit more than “reasonably” certain that Christianity and Islam are false. The stakes are pretty high. Eternal fire and all. It's good that I’m about 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain that they are false.
japonizieify 1 year ago
@japonizieify I've got a spare 0.1 if you want to borrow it.
Zuifan 1 year ago
this was fucking astounding...excellent job friend, from Connecticut
PookySan1 1 year ago
Phil, you and my wife are the same in this regard. However, while you were an analyst & a detective about it, the Mrs just assumed, straight out, that Bruce was a ghost. To her it just seemed utterly obvious - she then spent the next 90 minutes waiting for the awesome twist everyone was talking about! Naturally she was very unimpressed. "THAT was the twist? I want my 12 bucks back."
mandrellian 1 year ago
Awesome.
Knightyme 1 year ago
Love your videos!
SSDEdward 1 year ago
I have always wondered whats the rush,we just got here.These people always say hurry give your life to jesus,allah or whatever,before you die.They always get angery at me when I say I will make my decision after I die.Then they say its too late.Thats when I started realizing this is a Game!!
eoo8 1 year ago
I just saw the movie, I knew the plot twist before hand (before you said it) - and It did not ruin the movie for me.
ScottTheAtheist 1 year ago
@ScottTheAtheist you don't know that for sure because you can't see the movie without knowing the plot twist and compare your experience.i watched this video right before i watched the movie because of my own stupidity and ir ruined the movie for me. however if it wasn't for this video i wouldn't have seen the movie til this day :D
yamimakaiz 1 year ago
@yamimakaiz Well yeah, but I still enjoyed it quite a lot. Ruin implies that I can't enjoy it - I would've loved to have seen it without knowing but shows like family guy blurted out the plot twist as a joke. I'll never know if it would've surprised me or not.
All the same I enjoyed all the stuff M Night was doing to cover it up, that was before his career went to hell. :P
ScottTheAtheist 1 year ago
Does it matter for any of you that the other is wrong ? IF yes, isn't that because you are unsure yourself about your belief ? Why don't you just go outside and get some fresh air, and stop debating about everything you can on this small planet . Philhellenes i woudln't like it if you would tell me from the start the essence of a movie . People go there to watch it and figure it out themselves. You know it yourself, it's not as entertaining when you do a quiz while looking at an answer page
hares295 1 year ago
philhellenes Well done :)
xXxXTravisBickleXxXx 1 year ago
You are amazing. i lol @ the idiots who disliked this.
PinkYui16 1 year ago
three words:
reasoning,
prediction,
and chance.
!!!
Shockszzbyyous 1 year ago
I am reasonably certain your videos are awesome, sir.
sugarcanegray 1 year ago
Is see many atheist make arguments about the Quran and Bible being just books, while they never read it.
Instead of giving your opion about the Quran and the bible please do first read it, and make a comparison.
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 I read both, two of the biggest bullshit books i.f anything it was a reassurance on my stand as an atheist.
frank3976 1 year ago
@frank3976 So why do you think the quran is a ''bull-shit'' book?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 if you have to ask you are hopeless Ignorance is a bliss for dumb people
frank3976 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 Well, most atheists knows the books content better than the religious...
HKragh 1 year ago
@HKragh Doubt it, many atheists who think they are right never even read the quran.
There are many debate's on youtube about muslims, atheists and christanity debating eachother, instead of watching this video i rather watch a debate/movie where its proven that one or the other is false or not right.
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 Does everyone has to read "Snow White" to know its story? No.
h2321 1 year ago
@h2321 This is were you are wrong, people need to hear/read the story beforing know it. You actually think everyone on this planet know what ''Snow white'' is...
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 WTF are you blabbering on about? You would rather watch a video that spoon feeds you information, biased information on something that can never be proven? Your crazy.
KroniclyHigh 1 year ago
@KroniclyHigh Something never can be proven?... so historical evidence and prophecies that came true is no proof to you?
Getting information is doing research, reading and debating.
Lizzio1980 1 year ago