Where are the inscriptions of the Greek state as a unit of evidence from the time of Alexander the Great??
Wherever I look, I can NOT find the words: Ellada, hellas or Greek.
How can Macedonia be Greek if it has not given the Greek state?
Where are the antic coins with the Words:HELLAS,ELLADA or GREEK????There are no antic coins with that words, WHY????At the time of Alexander the Great the State Greek not exist ,that is fakt !!!!!!
The way these people disparage one another, I think perhaps, they should retire to continents populated by their own kind, and leave one another alone. Sound like a plan? Dr. Clark should board a steamer for Africa, poste haste
truth be told, I think that all the races of the world need to come together and force white people to face the reality that they r not the people who they claim to be to take their wealth and power and spread it amongt the world and see how yall look than
The quickest way for the US to balance it's budget is for the federal government to give $3000 to every black adult who voluntarily has their testicles or ovaries removed. EVERY unborn black child will save this country hundreds of thousands of dollars in welfare, free medical, public education, arrest, trial, and incarceration. Not to mention it will help eliminate the spread of HIV/AIDS.
Shit even the white boy know whats going on.....lmao.. and people so caught off guard by his age and melanin people don't know how to react...he's something we just started calling blacks 200 yrs ago...starts with a N.Umm....this is very sad.
I LOVE to watch black "scholars" trying to speak and debate! LOL! It's like watching a five-year-old child trying to explain where babies come from! LOL!
Did this "DR" clarke fella have syphilis or dementia or what!!! it was like listening to the ravings of Edi Amin.
@AztlanPrincess Yeah that is exactly how it is....I'll probably look like that too if I had to explain subjects for decades to liars...and shallow individuals like yourself.The Asian Man...know whats going on.Aztian Peasant...you need to research your history and stop focusing on physical attributes of a man on the brink of death.Research your history Aztian....lol...you would find out they were Africans practices also in those regions now considered to be Mexico....Sorry change your name.....
If I were to insult you, I would answer to your foolishness in accordance to your foolishness thereby validating your ignorance. Rather then saying that, all I request of you is that you research your own history in order to understand that Mexicans and Blacks historically worked in unison. It is not blacks, poor whites, latinos ect who are the cause of economic ruin in the US. Rather than looking at the people who are fighting for scraps you should look at the ones feasting.
@Hotdog0901 So....basically you're telling me that you won't legitimize my comments by telling me that you won't legitmize my comments by telling me that.... etc. etc.
He implies that Herodotus was black b/c he had a potato nose? What a moron. Then he babbles about Jesus on and on that makes no sense. The fact is that Arabs used black slaves long before the 1500's yet he is stupid enough to claim racism started then. And black people eat it what this idiot is saying.
@ratednine compared to dr clarke your opionions dont even count.. clarke is a giant compared to your social studies..clarke can laugh at white folks cuz he knows the real truth.. get out of the trailor park and get some knowledge...
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb. Clarke's story about the Herodotus statue shows how race is something he eats and breathes. Morons like this come up with a racial agenda first and history 2nd. Like morons who say Septimus Severus was black. Man this is sad.
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb. Clarke's story about the Herodotus statue shows how race is something he eats and breathes.
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb.
Go into yourself search for the reason you write here, find out whether it's to spread out your roots, acknowledge if you didn't write you would die. Would you? You can't go there boy. Since you have not one bit of truth to back yourself up . Your writing is just a a veneer of prestige to cover up you low self esteem. Would you die if you were denied your ability to write, of course not, because down deep we both know your only writing a vanity card.
You Afro-centrics are brainwashed FOOLS. The vast majority of the Greeks were white, and the vast majority of Egyptians were BROWN, and NOT black, until the Nubian invasion, which occured LATE in B.C. history. Tut's recent DNA tests are laughing at you, along with the NUMEROUS pre human fossils that are being found all around the world, blowing your "Out of Africa" LUNACY away. You Afro-centrics are LIARS and thieves !
Greeks, Italians, Albanians, Armanians, Portuguese, Spaniards, nothing more than bastard children of blacks. Ashkenz Jews, bastards of blacks and arabs(check out their camel noses), dark eyes, course hair. Arabs are bastards of blacks and indians of south asia mixing. Look at their (Arabs) course hair, dark eyes, and camel hump nose. In order for Jews to call themselves semite, which comes froom the latin prefix semi meaning half. Half of what? They are certainly not White. Go check your DNA
I hate to break this to you ... but Amazigh aren't sub-Saharan people.. so what makes you think that Severus isn't a native north African because he sure do look north African in every aspect ... there is even a painting of him on a rounded piece of wood found in Egypt.. I forgot to include it in my latest video about him
He says "September Savius" lol He thinks that Herodotus was black????? As for the African born emperors and popes, they were NOT BLACK. So what's next? Julius Casar was black too? Idiocy has no limits.
The Nile receives its name from the Greek Neilos, which means a valley or river valley. The river flowed northward and flooded the lands in Egypt, leaving behind black sediment. As a result the ancient Egyptians called the river Ar or Aur (black). The Greeks and Egyptians also gave the land its oldest name Kem or Kemi, which also translates into black. So you see your kemet is a Greek word and not and ancient old Dynasty Egyptian word. That was informative wasn't it and fun!
It's bizarre that someone presumed to dismantle the various regional studies departments at City College, I can see why these students were so angry.
I doubt the academic rigor of American higher education prior to the introduction of regional studies departments such as African Studies, Asian Studies, etc
@OdinCalls14 What evidence are you using to prove your point? You just give opinions with no sources. I just finished wasting my time someone like you. Give me sources or leave it alone.
This all has to do with ego! Its sad! People are desperately trying to attach themselves to the great accomplishments of others. Its an easy way for people to have pride for themselves instead of working for their own self worth! pathetic
You afrocentrics really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race conscious effort to usurp a nationality as if it were yours, when you have no relationship at all with them. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, Ur 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
Afrocentrism is largely what in old Marxist days used to called false consciousness: a systematically mistaken view of reality which can be explained from the historical trajectory traversed, in recent centuries, by the collectivity (mainly African Americans, but also an increasing number of Africans) holding these views. The true value of Afrocentrism is zero, in other words Afrocentrism is entirely mythical
SO NO GREEKS WERE NOT AFRICAN OR BLACK, NOR DID THEY COPY EGYPT.
Simply this book was written, financed by skopjia, Fyrom, they are upset with Greece for vetoing their name change to Macedonia.They aren't Macedonia. Written to Diminish Greeks Historically by inferring blacks are inferior, and if Greeks are black, they must be inferior also. I am sure Clarke and afoul-centrists are to inconceivably dumb to realize it.. Afoul-centrists can't grasp the simple analogy that skojians are trying to present. Hilarious! Greeks did, & blacks didn't, UR not Greek.
DUH!, Well of course the NY Times is going to like Not out of Africa. It help supports there view of Global White Supremacy. Anything that promotes how europe started civilization any newspaper is going to support. I still haven't heard one ounce of truth to say the Ancient Egyptians were white. Yet time and time again Dr. Clarke gives books and sources saying they were Black. Especially when he says that Herodotus describe the Egyptians as being BLACK. Eyewitness testimony is good enough for me
The reason Clarke says that Romans and Greeks weren't racist is because he wants to give you the impression that the Amazigh(berber) North African popes and Emperors were BLACK!! when in fact none of them was Black!
You don't have to take my word for it check it out yourselves.
Africa is ethnically and culturally a diverse continent and its indegenous people range from Black to the south .. to white in the north
Wait Pope syvester was an kemetic man and he sold his ppl out so that part about a black pope is true. he was a pawn like on a chess board jus like obama ass
@Wassil29 you still cant prove they werent blk but then again if they cant be white u ppl say they cant be blk and now all of a sudden they are mixed with mysterious races from a far far away land
Everyday life is depicted in countless mosaics in roman time and post Christian times and we've never Ever seen a single black face on these mosaics... you know why ? Because there weren't any around in NW Africa where the popes came from!!!
the first contact with Black Africa was 11 centuries later when camel trade started and Islam expanded into Africa south of the sahara.
So please stop trying to be Me because Im Me and the more you try the sillier you look.
@Wassil29 thats not concerning to what i said and do u knwo who taught the caveman how to speak a LET ME SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR SAXONS AND ROMANS TRIED TO DOMESTICATE THE CAVEMAN EURO CLOWNS DIDNT SHOW UP UNTIL 12 CENTURY A.D SO YOU PLZ STOP STEALING AND TWISTING ANY AND EVERYTHING TO FIT THE EURO-CLOWNIC VIEW!!!!
exactly the problem with you arm chair historians google is your resource for ancient information....how about google hannibal or tutankhamun and see the fake arab faces when we have seen the african remains. Google can be used to fool anyone.
The real black septimius severus is there for all to see in the new caxton encyclopedia of 1962. Also photos of his son caracalla show him mulato and we all know their mother was white...so is it a question what septimius was?
chair historians? how do you find web addresses of museums and art galleries? do you log into "rastawire" or other similar Afrocentrist black supremacist websites?
Google is just a web search engine ... it just lists the search result a bit faster than others.
Dozens of Statues of Septimus severus exist in various museums around the world... all you have to do is look at them to see that the Libyan emperor wasn't a Negro.
Keep listening to Charlatans and you'll learn nothing!
@Wassil29 you are a hating joker wassil..there are plenty remains of septimius severus in rome. there is nothing white about him. Just like google shows hannibal as white or berber.
Its important for you to keep feeding yourself lies to feel good. Enjoy fooling only yourself.
No! You are the hating racist who has no respect for other people's culture or history.
First of all we don't call ourselves Berbers... Like Septimus we are Imazighen and we are neither Europeans nor Sub-Saharan people.
We respect all nations as long as they respect us ....but we will not stand aside and let our history bo be raped by people from across the oceans who know nothing about us.
Septimus Severus was an amazigh Libyan and not a sub-saharan west african.
@Wassil29 there is nothing racist about truth regardless of who's lie based ego it offends. Your comments are mostly wrong. You can have your views and I mine...there is only 1 truth which does not have anything to do with politics or predjudice. Till you visit these places you cannot do anything but plaigerize.
Also stop using modern sources..you will be continously misled, take some time to find a dictionary/encyclopedia b4 or around the 1960's and recheck all the truth you've relied on.
@Wassil29 Septimus Severus was not of Libyan, decent.. He was descendant of a Roman family born in what is now Libya, simple as that. Hannibal was not Libyan, he was a descendant of Phoenicians, in their colony called Carthage.. God you guys sure try to destroy history to elevate your ancestors empty past.
By the way most contenders for power in that period were North Africans ....Clodus Albinus (hadrumentum Tunisia) , Emperor Macrinus.. and of course at least 1/3 of the senate.
We left our mark in literature, innovations Architecture, ... exported Ideas to the whole empire.. colour mosaics ...etc
Even the foundations of Western Christendom ... Augustin,Tertulian.... arianism, donatism..etc
I've been dealing with AFrocentrists ...and now Eurocentrists too :(
By the way they were ROMANS, born in Roman Provinces but Romans only. Your people left no mark other then they owned you.I know it's hard to process that fact. Only Romans were leaders at that time in ROME. Hannibal was Punic another name for the descendants of Phoenicians that started the colony called Carthage. Severus was of Rich aristocrat Roman blood on his grandfather side and grandmother, parents. He conquered and enslaved the surrounding people for Rome.History books not UTUBE.
Well ..I can tell that you have no idea of what the Punic world was as you don't have a clue about the History of Rome or North Africa...Like Afrocenrists your information comes from racist propaganda sources and that is why you can only provide claims without any means of backing them.
@Wassil29 First of all every historical information is ROMAN or Greek historians writing at that time . You have no information from anyone other than that recorded. You can make up stories but they aren't valid which you have done. Numidia (202 BC – 46 BC) was an ancient Berber kingdom in present-day Algeria and part of Tunisia (North Africa) that later alternated between being a Roman province. That is not old. Rome wasn't built in a day and I can assure you it was well before that.
“Every Historical information is roman or Greek historians”? How did you come to that conclusion?
Ahhh Hold on !! is it because you have your Greek Cassius Dio? what About Numidian African Historians like Suetonius who wrote the 12 Caesars and is considered on of the best roman historians ... isn't he good enough for you?
Please stop copying and pasting nonsense from either wiki or those who quote wiki..
Numidia isn't old enough for you ? how about Punic Carthage 800 BC ? is that old enough?
Romans took to see copying Carthaginian boats and Carthage was a metropolis before a She wolf suckled Romulus and Remus
Sure Rome wasn't built in a day ... it took a long process of learning from other cultures .. such as the Etruscans who taught them how to carve a stone.
Your line of Argument strangely resembles Afrocentrist Logic of making wild claims without proof.
About Severus these are quotes for "HISTORIA AUGUSTA"
"When his sister, a woman of Lepcis, had come to him, scarcely able to speak Latin, and the emperor was very embarrassed about her, he gave the broad stripe to her son and many gifts to her, and told the woman to return to her home town"
Numidians had flourishing cities built in Stone when rome was built wooden huts.
almost every ancient city in coastal north Africa trace its history to a Numidian origin.
@Wassil29 Setimus Severus, his mother's family Fulvii of Ilatian descent. grandfather was of Roman blood an equestrian. Upon returning to Lepcis, crushed the desert tribes beyond Tripolitania.Cass Dio 72-6, Herddian 2-3. you have wishful thinking because he was called the African Emperor he was Roman. Romans named their leaders where they were born or conquered but were still of Roman descent they wouldn't follow or let lead anyone else. Latin was spoken by upper classes most spoke Greek.
Are you quoting Cassius Dio saying " Septimus Severus, his mother's family Fulvii of Ilatian descent. grandfather was of Roman blood an equestrian" ????
Or perhaps are you quoting Wikipedia or websites like xxxbiography.jrank website?
"Most spoke Greek" ? why would they do that ?... the western Roman Empire despised the Greeks for their lack of manhood .... especially the Severus dynasty.. check out what Caracalla has done in Alexandria to Greek men who dared satirise him.
He was called African because he was provincial man from provincial Africa.. yes like most Romans he would have additional titles in line with his conquests and achievements but his African origins aren't in question.
As I said Earlier he isn't the only African to hold high office in Rome .... North AFrica was the most prosperous in the West and produced numerous great men.
Historia Augusta) is a late Roman collection of biographies, in Latin, of the Roman Emperors, It presents itself as an assemblage of works by six different authors written in the reigns of Diocletian and Constantine I, but the true authorship of the work, its actual date, and its purpose (if any), have long been matters for controversy. Associated major problems are the sources it used, and how much of the content is sheer fiction. Bogus and fiction. Read CASS DIO. Don't waste my time or URS
So “Historia Augusta” isn't good source to quote but Wikpedia is ?
Historia Augusta was compiled in ancient times, which to me gives it far more credibility than any Website that shies from producing any credible references.
Again you're quoting Wikipedia and its exaggerated suspicions of Historia augusta despite the fact that a lot its content can be cross-referenced with well know historians works which makes in my opinion a useful tool.
You say read " Cassius Dio" ... Yes I do try but I don't seem to fine the quotes you've been attributing about Severus Latin origin :)
Cassius Dio knew Severus very well and his work represents a good source of information about roman history and in particular the Severan dynasty, its rise and fall.
@Wassil29 Both. Greek was the universal language of trade and life in the Mediterranean. Latin was only spoken in the hierarchy or Rome and Italy proper. Wki offers an outline historia Augusta has already been proven false. Serverus was Roman blood, Caucasian, but born in North Africa. He CRUSHED the surrounding tribes of the area, if you are right and your not, he sure didn't like them. Read Dio and learn. He was not beber/moor, only Roman. His busts all a over Roman reveal that.
He was .. he was not ... can you provide me with credible historical references to support your claims?
And what about the warfare part? not that I agree with your version of events but what has keeping law and order got to do with Severus Origins?
Warfare between North AFricans is as common as that between Italic Rome or between roman legions?.... I can't seem to understand what you're trying to say?
Your analysis are very simplistic and post modern colonial..
@Wassil29 I am in full agreement with concerning Hannibal he was Punic/Phoenician Blood, not African black. His great- grandmother was Greek from Sicily.
What you people do not understand is that "Africa" in the Ancient world mean't Tunisia, North West libya and North eastern Algeria home of the Amazigh Numidians.
The continent became known as Africa only in recent colonial history when Europeans decided to call the whole continent "Africa"
Today African in America is synonymous of Black ... so when ever you hear about a famous Africans you immediately label them as Black! and this cannot be further from the truth.
Our Moorsh history becomes labelled black and the same goes for all ancient civilisations that we've had ... Numidian, mauri, Egyptian..etc ... all these ancient cultures become cultures from South west sub-sahara where most American Afrocentrists come from.
If you really want to do something worthwhile for you people .. you would be advised to take more pride in your true roots and forget your quest to become Moor, egyptian, libyan, Olmec, Greek, Israelite...
@Wassil29 I know what leo and scipio did in the land called africa. I also know that the conquered amazigh people's land was called africa as a colony...but there is no way you would have been to the temples in abu simbel, wasat, luxor and so on and tell me that these people did not preceed blacks today?? So tell me where we came from?
You have not travelled to the right places so your resource is ignorance and the web. I have the history and the work of yakub..I know where everyone is from.
How can you say I don’t know anything about Egypt when I am a North African?
Yes I know Abu Simbel .. and the faces of Ramases II are not those of a Sub-saharan west african
I knew Egyptian people all my life and I also knew many west Africans and I am absolutely certain that Modern and Ancient Egyptians are one and the same.
And this was confirmed recently even by top Afrocentrist scholar shomarka omar keita.
Hands off Egypt and try and be proud of your own true roots
Then name Africa existed long before any roman... it's called after the local Amazigh Afri Tribes of Tunisia.
And when scipio Africanus arrived in North Africa with a large Quantity of gold to buy support against Carthage ... at this very time his own country Italy was still occupied by Hannibal for 17 years.
When Hannibal heard and raced back to Africa he realised that he lost the support of the Numidian cavalry .. and that is the key to his defeat!
After the Battle of Zama and the defeat of Hannibal ..scipio offered tribute to Massinissa including a gold crown in recognition of saving Rome from Hannibal's threat.
The Romans Left North Africa
around 150 years later a civil war started in Rome after Julius Caesar marched on Rome and started a war with Pompeii.... many Romans fled to Numidia where king Juba offered them refuge from Caesar ... that civil war spread into north Africa ... Juba and his roman alies defeated and a new Era began..
To cut the story short ...Juba II who was brought up and helped by Caesar and his nephew Augustus who will later become 1st roman ... He helped Juba build a mangnificent new capital in mauritania and married him to the daugher of cleopatra queen of Egypt .. who's name was Selene.
So you see The relationship between Rome and North Africa isn't that of a conquered Amazigh... .. on the contrary .. a few decades later African senetor and later Emperors will rule Rome itself .
@Wassil29 wassil you are still using other people's sources as fact for how the people of the land looked. I have been there so I don't need sources. As for ramesu which you call ramses 2nd he is a mulato. Not all the people of mizraim where black. I know my true traditions...no way those people would have been ruled by amazigh as you called them. As for the rest of hannibal & rome you need to recheck your sources from more ancient texts. Modern sources are watered down. Do yourself a favour.
Are you saying that if the ancient remains like the triumphal arch of septimus severus in rome and in lepcis magna say he is a an AFrican libyan .... we should not trust them?
perhaps Europeans build those remains recently to promote a fictitious ancient libyan Amazigh Emperor ?
You're not making any sense!!! RamasesII .. A Molato ?
ha ha ha Septimius severus becoming the Governor of Britain ???
Septimus severus ( a Libyan white Amazigh Berber) was never the Governor of Britain, he was the governor of Upper Pannonia before becoming the emperor of Rome.
Severus defeated Clodius Albinus Governor of Britain who too was a White Amazigh ( Berber) from the province of Africa now known as Tunisia.
Dr Clarke is Charlatan who's full of arrogance and Ignorance about even the commonly well known historical Events:)
i have to jump in and kill this fool odin...one who looks but obviously does not want to see.greek and jewish homosexuality,this whitemans scurvy and plagues...his aids and his infatuation with beastiality...the early greeks were black and so were the nordic peoples of the world who are now white you people like odin and the like are descendants of albinos its the truth white was a sickness in ancient times remember that with all that damn hair on your back. i could go on and on about pale face
Black homosexuality is three times that of whites per capita. your ghetto schlarship could only be believed by you, a silly group of silly individuals, don't ever change.
World history was greatly distorted in favor of those who have killed in the name of god. But which god did they or do they kill for? A supreme being remember "thou shall not kill" or the 1 which fits in your pocket and is colored green? Watch the history channel, everyday something new becomes clear and debunks what we swore was truth. The books are out there read them! Most of us swore there was a Santa Clause, then we matured. Same damn shit. We are correcting their racism with truth. TRUISM
Correcting (their) racism, with TRUISM. Or the belief in telling the truth since an 'ism' is a belief. The problem is that their lies are so ignorant, so blatant, idiotic, confusing, 1sided, sometimes well thought out, others times not, that they figured people would just trut them at pale face value, that no1 would check for themselves. Thank goodness for our scholars.
yes it is so funny how if they don't feel like they can fit in or that it don't follow their agenda they try to pull the race card.they will go to the extreme to create false bust and bones and dates etc.. they are such a joke.
Your ghetto scholarship is the laughingstock of the world, even in africa, where african scholars think you are low and stupid for believing nonsense. Hahahahahaha!
Don't you realize that this is exactly what we are complaining about? A purposeful distortion of world history. A eurocentric p.o.v. designed to keep all non whites in a submissive posture. But we see it from 2 points of view. He never preached hate, please check out some of his other speeches, I know this because I heard him say so. The problem you and most others have is "what if it is true?, where do we fit in?" Its pretty convient that the accolades alog with the spoils go to the victor.
Why is it when a person finds a truth that is not popular to the status quo then that person becomes racist? Finds the same truth that is apparent to anyone who cares enough or smart enough to examine and make sense of that truth makes him a racist? By definition is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Dr. Clarke is justly, erasing the racism thats already here with truth.
Well, I certainly don't think he's trying to erase racism. And even if he is, he's going about it the wrong way. Distorting history is only going to upset people who place importance on history and culture. What's going to happen when people actually do the research themselves and see he's lying?
The reason I think he's a racist is because it seems like he's just stealing White history because he doesn't want to give Whites credit for Greece.
history in it self is a distortion, this vid alone shows that we will never know the truth about history..scholars will continue to debate and conflict, i say live your life in accordance to your realty today
when this so called "evidence" is always in complete conflict then CLEARLY it can never be considered SOLID... This vid is a clear example.. You only end up with BOTH sides feeling as though they're correct and the other WRONG
You call it racist when Blacks take credit for their own historical contributions & when credit for those proven achievments isnt attributed to Whites. It has become racist to not except the Eurocentric narration of history. To correct inconsistent history is now racist. When doing so Whites develop a sense of guilt, and the only way they can express it is by saying, the people who made me feel that way are racist". Nice trick! Now: Euro dest. of Africa = Black dest. of Euro ego...Please!
That's not true at all. I fully give Blacks credit for the kingdom of Kush.
The reason I'd say these Afrocentrists are racist is because they know damn well that Egypt wasn't a Black civilization. I don't know if you've noticed this yet, but the ONLY people who make these claims are Black supremacists. No real historian, Black or White, believes that the original Egyptians were Black.
And c'mon, Eurocentric narration of history? History has been distorted so badly to make Whites look bad.
What country do you live in? k-12 we are taught a euphoric, happy go lucky history surrounding the formation of the Euro-American empire. You act as if the oppressor has told the full truth about history for the past 4 centuries, when he hasn't and it's been proven. That's what I mean by narration, his version. Also, Is slavery a distortion? Were the Tuskegee experiments a distortion? Was the slaughter of natives a distortion? Was the Holocaust a distortion?....
Dude, the American education system purposely leaves out the fact that White Americans purchased Black slaves from Black slave owners. It leaves out the fact that the Amerindians attacked European settlers first. It leaves out the fact that the Jews declared war on Germany and basically started WWII.
...Was 20 million Africans dead in diamond minds a distortion? Ethnic cleansing, bombing of Black Wallstreet in Tulsa, lynching, denial of human rights, not even beeing seen as humans to justify the previous one, police brutality, 75% more time for the same crimes, etc. I could keep going if you like. The Only people who've made whites look bad is themselves. I'm not holding these and other things against Europeans, but don't act like it didn't happen.
"the only ones making these claims are Black supremacist."
Clever tactic. So, now if I make any claim of Black achievement without European involvment, I would then automatically be classified as a Black supremist. That way, you ilegitimize the valid findings of those Afrocentrists who aren't Black supremacist. It seems like Whites don't want to accept the fact that Black Africans had a civilization without help from them, even when excluding Egypt.
There's a logical fallacy involving your understanding and use of the word supreme. Supreme has to do with being great, transcendent or high. If Africans try to reclaim greatness, even without taking anything away from whites, it offends whites because they have viewed themselves as the greatest for centuries. Whites used that word in reference to their supremacy/power over others, not in reference to their own achievements. Different people, different language, even though its the same word.
Well, people are always accusing racially conscious Whites of being "White supremacists," so apparently the word is used by everyone that way.
By the way, you really need to knock that chip off your shoulder. Do you really think Whites don't want Blacks to achieve things on their own? I wish they did, then maybe we'd be able to stop supporting Africa.
And finally, Whites like to catch headaches over the results of history and not focus on the circumstances that created the negative oppositions. Without the detrimental ideologies, actions, behavior, and conduct on a global scale, there would be no need for Afrocentrism and Black supremacy wouldn't even exist.
Oh, it would still exist. Whites have given Blacks more than any race should ever recieve. For all the affirmative action and hand outs, Blacks who are fustrated with their own lack of achievements still try to steal White history and blame the White man for his living in poverty.
Blacks need to start listening to Bill Cosby. Stop blaming your failures on other people, story distorting the past, and just try to create a better future.
oh! see it people with your lack of knowing the truth and excepting the truth you given black folks nothing you steal much. no one is waving a supremacy flag our elders are just setting the record straight. white man has little history they have only been around for 833 bc of the common era. know your history.
So why is it the ONLY people who believe in the "Black Egypt" theory are Black supremacists?
The White race has civilization dating back to 35,000 BC. The American education system ignores most of White history. We've done plenty before Greece.
Do some reading about the Late Paleolithic Age in Europe. We've found cave paintings in France dating from 20,000 BC. The earliest art work ever was a small statue of a pregnant woman found in Austria from 30,000 BC.
I don't blame you for not knowing this, the American education system has distorted history a lot so things look less racist.
he mentions the moon to say that its nt significant that old payrimids was found on earth to me 90,000 when it is more fascinating to find a parymid on the moon; or on mars. they actually found a 7 sory buildng on the moon.
who said there was a pyramid on the moon? was it in the new york times? or on time magazine? second there is no way in the world can any one tell if something is 5000yrs 90,000 yrs or 1 million yrs its a hoax carbon dating is a hoax.
what!?!? man get real, you are going to tell me that carbon dating is a hoax, but yet say there is a 7 story building on the moon, man please. also if you were reading my comment i said nothing about a pyramid on the moon.
google carbon dating and put in hoax or is it reliable and do the reserch your self. any time they want to date something they give u a span of years they can be off by at leat 1 million yrs; the reason is is because they are just guestimating basiscally a wild guess.
no is a black supremacis you can't point out one black supreacists you are making a hollow point. I can't believe you said "America education system Ignore most of white history" what planet are you from. that's all they teach.that's some dumb shit! give me names and dates educate me. you can't do it .empty words that all you have. i'm waiting come on. 833bc anything else is a lie.
good try I have to let you know that you are not dealing wiith a lightweight the names I am about to share with you all begain with DR. I dare you to look them up and listen to them here on you tube. but you have an agenda and don't want to know the truth Dr.chancellor William Dr yosef ben jochannan DR. cheikh Anta Diop Dr ray hagins they all just want the truth. I dare you.oh I see you know of DR. clarke.the dare is on.
Chancellor William first became respected in the Afrocentric community, where ANYONE can make it, as long as you have pro-Black lies. At that point, not honoring him would be considered "racist." I'd also like to point at he denied there was cannibalism in Africa.
Yosef Ben-Jochannan is a joke. He claimed that Aristotle and Alexander the Great travelled to Egypt to learn at the library of Alexanderia, which was actually constructed after they both died.
Hahahahaha, that's so true. The library was after them both, hahahahaha! I love these afrocentrists, their stupidity is so thick, so obvious, so friggin' beautiful hahahahahahaha!
@peasah2005 Clarke has a degree from Pacific Western University, which is NOT an accredited university. The government investigated them for handing out worthless degrees. Look it up. The other 3 people are real scholars. Clarke is more a preacher and activist than a scholar. fact.
Dude, just look at the cultures of Egypt and Greece. Look at their architecture, their statues, their politics, and their philosophies. Can you honestly say Greece got everything from Egypt? Egypt had pyramids, Greece had many diverse styles, none of which were pyramids. Egypt had a ruler believed to be a god, Greece had democracy in some states and oligarchies in others.
Further more, the fact that these people still think the original Egyptians were Black is just sad.
@OdinCalls14 If the early ancient Egyptians were not originally Africans from the south, where did they come from? If Egyptian is a race, where did they come from? Democracy started with many different culture before Greece. The closest culture to resemble Egypt is ancient Ethiopia. <--Prove me wrong. Refer to the early Greek writers and explorers who often refered to Egypt as the originators of many things including thier own Gods.
@OdinCalls14 Learn about the early Egyptian(African)concept of God and spirituality before you judge. When you respond, use EVIDENCE to prove your case.
@Boukephalos1 U are the clown i was talking about. You never answered or disproved one thing. Im no Afro-centrist. Im a more of an Pan-Africanist. TAKE THE INFORMATION AND PROVE OR DISPROVE IT WITH EVIDENCE. OPINIONS DONT COUNT. EVIDENCE! PROOF! NOT OPINIONS AND BIASES!
@twit 1704 Do you understand what you have just uttered, I guess not. If you are a pan-africanist, you are pro-african, which means you favor a pro-afro-centric viewpoint, as such you have then aligned yourself with afro-centrics, but you and I know all you are doing is mincing words to Act as an unbiased observer, which you're not and doesn't hide the obvious, you are an afro-centric. You come off more as an spineless-africanist. AND YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE, and it seems a poorly veiled opinion.
@Boukephalos1 Why do you continue to come to these videos? Do you read your own comments and responses? Calling name because you have no evidence is immature. I actually feel sorry for you. Do you have other hobbies because your embarrassing yourself. Lets just leave it alone.
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Where are the inscriptions of the Greek state as a unit of evidence from the time of Alexander the Great??
Wherever I look, I can NOT find the words: Ellada, hellas or Greek.
How can Macedonia be Greek if it has not given the Greek state?
Where are the antic coins with the Words:HELLAS,ELLADA or GREEK????There are no antic coins with that words, WHY????At the time of Alexander the Great the State Greek not exist ,that is fakt !!!!!!
STOP steeling the MAKEDONIAN history
Viva la MAKEDONIA
Devoj4E 1 month ago
The way these people disparage one another, I think perhaps, they should retire to continents populated by their own kind, and leave one another alone. Sound like a plan? Dr. Clark should board a steamer for Africa, poste haste
youngoldbones 3 months ago
what in the bloody hades does a statue of herodotus in the british museum have to do with socrates being white or black?
longof99 3 months ago
that's right. these are profound thinkers...i'm - better - then - you...we -are - better - then - them... equals horse dung.
" stay away from farrakhan"
well said.
farrkahnism is a FAKE / black supremest / wanna be muslim trash...
afterray 4 months ago
Why would they put and keep history in a basement.
90rashad 8 months ago
i bet this chick gettin paid nice for writting bout some things she dont even know
bcsuno919 8 months ago
truth be told, I think that all the races of the world need to come together and force white people to face the reality that they r not the people who they claim to be to take their wealth and power and spread it amongt the world and see how yall look than
Tremone08 9 months ago
The quickest way for the US to balance it's budget is for the federal government to give $3000 to every black adult who voluntarily has their testicles or ovaries removed. EVERY unborn black child will save this country hundreds of thousands of dollars in welfare, free medical, public education, arrest, trial, and incarceration. Not to mention it will help eliminate the spread of HIV/AIDS.
AztlanPrincess 10 months ago
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@AztlanPrincess You are the devil
Keanaresha890 8 months ago
@AztlanPrincess YOU CLEARLY MUST BE RETARDED
JIZZLE05 4 months ago
Shit even the white boy know whats going on.....lmao.. and people so caught off guard by his age and melanin people don't know how to react...he's something we just started calling blacks 200 yrs ago...starts with a N.Umm....this is very sad.
MedinazAiR 11 months ago
Black scholar= contradiction in terms!
I LOVE to watch black "scholars" trying to speak and debate! LOL! It's like watching a five-year-old child trying to explain where babies come from! LOL!
Did this "DR" clarke fella have syphilis or dementia or what!!! it was like listening to the ravings of Edi Amin.
AztlanPrincess 11 months ago
@AztlanPrincess Yeah that is exactly how it is....I'll probably look like that too if I had to explain subjects for decades to liars...and shallow individuals like yourself.The Asian Man...know whats going on.Aztian Peasant...you need to research your history and stop focusing on physical attributes of a man on the brink of death.Research your history Aztian....lol...you would find out they were Africans practices also in those regions now considered to be Mexico....Sorry change your name.....
MedinazAiR 11 months ago
@MedinazAiR So you are agreeing with me, that Dr. Clarke is suffering from syphilis-induced dementia.
AztlanPrincess 11 months ago
@AztlanPrincess
If I were to insult you, I would answer to your foolishness in accordance to your foolishness thereby validating your ignorance. Rather then saying that, all I request of you is that you research your own history in order to understand that Mexicans and Blacks historically worked in unison. It is not blacks, poor whites, latinos ect who are the cause of economic ruin in the US. Rather than looking at the people who are fighting for scraps you should look at the ones feasting.
Hotdog0901 9 months ago
@Hotdog0901 So....basically you're telling me that you won't legitimize my comments by telling me that you won't legitmize my comments by telling me that.... etc. etc.
You're a moron.
AztlanPrincess 8 months ago
@AztlanPrincess I love knowing that all white people are damned to hell.
90rashad 8 months ago
even the asian and white dude is fighting for the real truth of african history.
90rashad 11 months ago
If I figured out the question how could a Historian, Scholar etc etc not get the question? LOL
MrsDomino 1 year ago
He implies that Herodotus was black b/c he had a potato nose? What a moron. Then he babbles about Jesus on and on that makes no sense. The fact is that Arabs used black slaves long before the 1500's yet he is stupid enough to claim racism started then. And black people eat it what this idiot is saying.
ratednine 1 year ago
@ratednine if its stupid why watch it
izzyel 1 year ago
@ratednine compared to dr clarke your opionions dont even count.. clarke is a giant compared to your social studies..clarke can laugh at white folks cuz he knows the real truth.. get out of the trailor park and get some knowledge...
sfd455 1 month ago
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb. Clarke's story about the Herodotus statue shows how race is something he eats and breathes. Morons like this come up with a racial agenda first and history 2nd. Like morons who say Septimus Severus was black. Man this is sad.
Amunkriket 1 year ago
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb. Clarke's story about the Herodotus statue shows how race is something he eats and breathes.
Amunkriket 1 year ago
@Amunkriket European race did start racism.
90rashad 11 months ago
Hey everybody, we have a general date. Racism started in Europe in the late middle ages according to this racist idiot Clarke. Wow. You have to work to be that dumb.
Amunkriket 1 year ago
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Go into yourself search for the reason you write here, find out whether it's to spread out your roots, acknowledge if you didn't write you would die. Would you? You can't go there boy. Since you have not one bit of truth to back yourself up . Your writing is just a a veneer of prestige to cover up you low self esteem. Would you die if you were denied your ability to write, of course not, because down deep we both know your only writing a vanity card.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
This Clark sure gets payed a lot.
EsaulRuss 1 year ago
@EsaulRuss how much does he get or did he get paid?
brokeshane14 1 year ago
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You Afro-centrics are brainwashed FOOLS. The vast majority of the Greeks were white, and the vast majority of Egyptians were BROWN, and NOT black, until the Nubian invasion, which occured LATE in B.C. history. Tut's recent DNA tests are laughing at you, along with the NUMEROUS pre human fossils that are being found all around the world, blowing your "Out of Africa" LUNACY away. You Afro-centrics are LIARS and thieves !
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
Greeks, Italians, Albanians, Armanians, Portuguese, Spaniards, nothing more than bastard children of blacks. Ashkenz Jews, bastards of blacks and arabs(check out their camel noses), dark eyes, course hair. Arabs are bastards of blacks and indians of south asia mixing. Look at their (Arabs) course hair, dark eyes, and camel hump nose. In order for Jews to call themselves semite, which comes froom the latin prefix semi meaning half. Half of what? They are certainly not White. Go check your DNA
blkpanther08 1 year ago
The word boukephalos means bullheaded...we should not waste our time...
kailanisofresh 1 year ago
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@Boukephalos1
I hate to break this to you ... but Amazigh aren't sub-Saharan people.. so what makes you think that Severus isn't a native north African because he sure do look north African in every aspect ... there is even a painting of him on a rounded piece of wood found in Egypt.. I forgot to include it in my latest video about him
watch?v=V4wHQ_LdQ7U
Wassil29 1 year ago
2:50-3:58 - thats asian guy fucked up Lefokowitz pretty bad
XuanDi 1 year ago
He says "September Savius" lol He thinks that Herodotus was black????? As for the African born emperors and popes, they were NOT BLACK. So what's next? Julius Casar was black too? Idiocy has no limits.
ratednine 1 year ago
@ratednine Use information to disprove Dr. Clarke. If you disagree, isnt it helpful to tell why VS giving your opinion? Use information(sources).
tw1704 1 year ago
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The Nile receives its name from the Greek Neilos, which means a valley or river valley. The river flowed northward and flooded the lands in Egypt, leaving behind black sediment. As a result the ancient Egyptians called the river Ar or Aur (black). The Greeks and Egyptians also gave the land its oldest name Kem or Kemi, which also translates into black. So you see your kemet is a Greek word and not and ancient old Dynasty Egyptian word. That was informative wasn't it and fun!
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
It's bizarre that someone presumed to dismantle the various regional studies departments at City College, I can see why these students were so angry.
I doubt the academic rigor of American higher education prior to the introduction of regional studies departments such as African Studies, Asian Studies, etc
Azizah2010 1 year ago
@OdinCalls14 What evidence are you using to prove your point? You just give opinions with no sources. I just finished wasting my time someone like you. Give me sources or leave it alone.
tw1704 1 year ago
common now dr. clark now to mucus
Rkingman 1 year ago
This all has to do with ego! Its sad! People are desperately trying to attach themselves to the great accomplishments of others. Its an easy way for people to have pride for themselves instead of working for their own self worth! pathetic
qbslug 2 years ago
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You afrocentrics really require these myths, your lack of self worth so revealed by your race conscious effort to usurp a nationality as if it were yours, when you have no relationship at all with them. The problem you have is we would have to deny what has been written, what we see, what we know, we would have to wipe are minds clear to believe your myths, if this were 2000BC it may have worked but alas, Ur 3000 yrs to late to get away with UR myths. Thank God for that.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
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Afrocentrism is largely what in old Marxist days used to called false consciousness: a systematically mistaken view of reality which can be explained from the historical trajectory traversed, in recent centuries, by the collectivity (mainly African Americans, but also an increasing number of Africans) holding these views. The true value of Afrocentrism is zero, in other words Afrocentrism is entirely mythical
SO NO GREEKS WERE NOT AFRICAN OR BLACK, NOR DID THEY COPY EGYPT.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago 4
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Simply this book was written, financed by skopjia, Fyrom, they are upset with Greece for vetoing their name change to Macedonia.They aren't Macedonia. Written to Diminish Greeks Historically by inferring blacks are inferior, and if Greeks are black, they must be inferior also. I am sure Clarke and afoul-centrists are to inconceivably dumb to realize it.. Afoul-centrists can't grasp the simple analogy that skojians are trying to present. Hilarious! Greeks did, & blacks didn't, UR not Greek.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
The New York Times (which is hardly a right wing organization) and a bunch of other scholars liked Not Out of Africa.
exbronco1980 2 years ago
DUH!, Well of course the NY Times is going to like Not out of Africa. It help supports there view of Global White Supremacy. Anything that promotes how europe started civilization any newspaper is going to support. I still haven't heard one ounce of truth to say the Ancient Egyptians were white. Yet time and time again Dr. Clarke gives books and sources saying they were Black. Especially when he says that Herodotus describe the Egyptians as being BLACK. Eyewitness testimony is good enough for me
mrfreaknasssty 2 years ago
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peasah2005 2 years ago 6
Watch 5:30
The reason Clarke says that Romans and Greeks weren't racist is because he wants to give you the impression that the Amazigh(berber) North African popes and Emperors were BLACK!! when in fact none of them was Black!
You don't have to take my word for it check it out yourselves.
Africa is ethnically and culturally a diverse continent and its indegenous people range from Black to the south .. to white in the north
Wassil29 2 years ago
Wait Pope syvester was an kemetic man and he sold his ppl out so that part about a black pope is true. he was a pawn like on a chess board jus like obama ass
nappyg1 2 years ago
@Wassil29 you still cant prove they werent blk but then again if they cant be white u ppl say they cant be blk and now all of a sudden they are mixed with mysterious races from a far far away land
muffinman5323 2 years ago
Afrocentrism = retardism
Everyday life is depicted in countless mosaics in roman time and post Christian times and we've never Ever seen a single black face on these mosaics... you know why ? Because there weren't any around in NW Africa where the popes came from!!!
the first contact with Black Africa was 11 centuries later when camel trade started and Islam expanded into Africa south of the sahara.
So please stop trying to be Me because Im Me and the more you try the sillier you look.
Wassil29 2 years ago
@Wassil29 thats not concerning to what i said and do u knwo who taught the caveman how to speak a LET ME SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR SAXONS AND ROMANS TRIED TO DOMESTICATE THE CAVEMAN EURO CLOWNS DIDNT SHOW UP UNTIL 12 CENTURY A.D SO YOU PLZ STOP STEALING AND TWISTING ANY AND EVERYTHING TO FIT THE EURO-CLOWNIC VIEW!!!!
muffinman5323 2 years ago
Please Everyone don't take my word for it
Google for "SEPTIMUS SEVERUS" and see what he looks like !
Wassil29 2 years ago
@Wassil29
exactly the problem with you arm chair historians google is your resource for ancient information....how about google hannibal or tutankhamun and see the fake arab faces when we have seen the african remains. Google can be used to fool anyone.
The real black septimius severus is there for all to see in the new caxton encyclopedia of 1962. Also photos of his son caracalla show him mulato and we all know their mother was white...so is it a question what septimius was?
Avabz 1 year ago
@Avabz
chair historians? how do you find web addresses of museums and art galleries? do you log into "rastawire" or other similar Afrocentrist black supremacist websites?
Google is just a web search engine ... it just lists the search result a bit faster than others.
Dozens of Statues of Septimus severus exist in various museums around the world... all you have to do is look at them to see that the Libyan emperor wasn't a Negro.
Keep listening to Charlatans and you'll learn nothing!
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 you are a hating joker wassil..there are plenty remains of septimius severus in rome. there is nothing white about him. Just like google shows hannibal as white or berber.
Its important for you to keep feeding yourself lies to feel good. Enjoy fooling only yourself.
Avabz 1 year ago
@Avabz
No! You are the hating racist who has no respect for other people's culture or history.
First of all we don't call ourselves Berbers... Like Septimus we are Imazighen and we are neither Europeans nor Sub-Saharan people.
We respect all nations as long as they respect us ....but we will not stand aside and let our history bo be raped by people from across the oceans who know nothing about us.
Septimus Severus was an amazigh Libyan and not a sub-saharan west african.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 there is nothing racist about truth regardless of who's lie based ego it offends. Your comments are mostly wrong. You can have your views and I mine...there is only 1 truth which does not have anything to do with politics or predjudice. Till you visit these places you cannot do anything but plaigerize.
Also stop using modern sources..you will be continously misled, take some time to find a dictionary/encyclopedia b4 or around the 1960's and recheck all the truth you've relied on.
Avabz 1 year ago
@Wassil29 Septimus Severus was not of Libyan, decent.. He was descendant of a Roman family born in what is now Libya, simple as that. Hannibal was not Libyan, he was a descendant of Phoenicians, in their colony called Carthage.. God you guys sure try to destroy history to elevate your ancestors empty past.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
Really? where did you hear that ? do you have any recorded historical proof?
All Historians refer to severus as African.. while in Rome his sister embarrassed him by not being able to speak Latin properly ..
As for Hannibal he was PUNIC not Phoenician ... the Legend of Dido escaping the destruciton of Tyre and setting in north Africa tunis ....
An extensive DNA project was done a few years ago and here are the results
watch?v=-ZjF5IfuML0
listen to part about tunis (Carthage)
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 the only thing you're dealing with when it comes from me buddy is the truth. It's much easier to remember the truth.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
By the way most contenders for power in that period were North Africans ....Clodus Albinus (hadrumentum Tunisia) , Emperor Macrinus.. and of course at least 1/3 of the senate.
We left our mark in literature, innovations Architecture, ... exported Ideas to the whole empire.. colour mosaics ...etc
Even the foundations of Western Christendom ... Augustin,Tertulian.... arianism, donatism..etc
I've been dealing with AFrocentrists ...and now Eurocentrists too :(
Wassil29 1 year ago
By the way they were ROMANS, born in Roman Provinces but Romans only. Your people left no mark other then they owned you.I know it's hard to process that fact. Only Romans were leaders at that time in ROME. Hannibal was Punic another name for the descendants of Phoenicians that started the colony called Carthage. Severus was of Rich aristocrat Roman blood on his grandfather side and grandmother, parents. He conquered and enslaved the surrounding people for Rome.History books not UTUBE.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
Well ..I can tell that you have no idea of what the Punic world was as you don't have a clue about the History of Rome or North Africa...Like Afrocenrists your information comes from racist propaganda sources and that is why you can only provide claims without any means of backing them.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 First of all every historical information is ROMAN or Greek historians writing at that time . You have no information from anyone other than that recorded. You can make up stories but they aren't valid which you have done. Numidia (202 BC – 46 BC) was an ancient Berber kingdom in present-day Algeria and part of Tunisia (North Africa) that later alternated between being a Roman province. That is not old. Rome wasn't built in a day and I can assure you it was well before that.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
“Every Historical information is roman or Greek historians”? How did you come to that conclusion?
Ahhh Hold on !! is it because you have your Greek Cassius Dio? what About Numidian African Historians like Suetonius who wrote the 12 Caesars and is considered on of the best roman historians ... isn't he good enough for you?
Please stop copying and pasting nonsense from either wiki or those who quote wiki..
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
Numidia isn't old enough for you ? how about Punic Carthage 800 BC ? is that old enough?
Romans took to see copying Carthaginian boats and Carthage was a metropolis before a She wolf suckled Romulus and Remus
Sure Rome wasn't built in a day ... it took a long process of learning from other cultures .. such as the Etruscans who taught them how to carve a stone.
Your line of Argument strangely resembles Afrocentrist Logic of making wild claims without proof.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
About Severus these are quotes for "HISTORIA AUGUSTA"
"When his sister, a woman of Lepcis, had come to him, scarcely able to speak Latin, and the emperor was very embarrassed about her, he gave the broad stripe to her son and many gifts to her, and told the woman to return to her home town"
Numidians had flourishing cities built in Stone when rome was built wooden huts.
almost every ancient city in coastal north Africa trace its history to a Numidian origin.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 Setimus Severus, his mother's family Fulvii of Ilatian descent. grandfather was of Roman blood an equestrian. Upon returning to Lepcis, crushed the desert tribes beyond Tripolitania.Cass Dio 72-6, Herddian 2-3. you have wishful thinking because he was called the African Emperor he was Roman. Romans named their leaders where they were born or conquered but were still of Roman descent they wouldn't follow or let lead anyone else. Latin was spoken by upper classes most spoke Greek.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
Are you quoting Cassius Dio saying " Septimus Severus, his mother's family Fulvii of Ilatian descent. grandfather was of Roman blood an equestrian" ????
Or perhaps are you quoting Wikipedia or websites like xxxbiography.jrank website?
"Most spoke Greek" ? why would they do that ?... the western Roman Empire despised the Greeks for their lack of manhood .... especially the Severus dynasty.. check out what Caracalla has done in Alexandria to Greek men who dared satirise him.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
The wishful thinking is only on your part!
He was called African because he was provincial man from provincial Africa.. yes like most Romans he would have additional titles in line with his conquests and achievements but his African origins aren't in question.
As I said Earlier he isn't the only African to hold high office in Rome .... North AFrica was the most prosperous in the West and produced numerous great men.
Wassil29 1 year ago
Historia Augusta) is a late Roman collection of biographies, in Latin, of the Roman Emperors, It presents itself as an assemblage of works by six different authors written in the reigns of Diocletian and Constantine I, but the true authorship of the work, its actual date, and its purpose (if any), have long been matters for controversy. Associated major problems are the sources it used, and how much of the content is sheer fiction. Bogus and fiction. Read CASS DIO. Don't waste my time or URS
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
So “Historia Augusta” isn't good source to quote but Wikpedia is ?
Historia Augusta was compiled in ancient times, which to me gives it far more credibility than any Website that shies from producing any credible references.
Again you're quoting Wikipedia and its exaggerated suspicions of Historia augusta despite the fact that a lot its content can be cross-referenced with well know historians works which makes in my opinion a useful tool.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
You say read " Cassius Dio" ... Yes I do try but I don't seem to fine the quotes you've been attributing about Severus Latin origin :)
Cassius Dio knew Severus very well and his work represents a good source of information about roman history and in particular the Severan dynasty, its rise and fall.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 Both. Greek was the universal language of trade and life in the Mediterranean. Latin was only spoken in the hierarchy or Rome and Italy proper. Wki offers an outline historia Augusta has already been proven false. Serverus was Roman blood, Caucasian, but born in North Africa. He CRUSHED the surrounding tribes of the area, if you are right and your not, he sure didn't like them. Read Dio and learn. He was not beber/moor, only Roman. His busts all a over Roman reveal that.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
He was .. he was not ... can you provide me with credible historical references to support your claims?
And what about the warfare part? not that I agree with your version of events but what has keeping law and order got to do with Severus Origins?
Warfare between North AFricans is as common as that between Italic Rome or between roman legions?.... I can't seem to understand what you're trying to say?
Your analysis are very simplistic and post modern colonial..
Wassil29 1 year ago
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Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 look at the statues. That ends it.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Wassil29 Holy shiite it's your site that's Italian not berber/mioor or north african and certainly not black.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Wassil29 I am in full agreement with concerning Hannibal he was Punic/Phoenician Blood, not African black. His great- grandmother was Greek from Sicily.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1
Can you again provide us of your source ?
probably not !
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Avabz
What you people do not understand is that "Africa" in the Ancient world mean't Tunisia, North West libya and North eastern Algeria home of the Amazigh Numidians.
The continent became known as Africa only in recent colonial history when Europeans decided to call the whole continent "Africa"
Today African in America is synonymous of Black ... so when ever you hear about a famous Africans you immediately label them as Black! and this cannot be further from the truth.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Avabz
Our Moorsh history becomes labelled black and the same goes for all ancient civilisations that we've had ... Numidian, mauri, Egyptian..etc ... all these ancient cultures become cultures from South west sub-sahara where most American Afrocentrists come from.
If you really want to do something worthwhile for you people .. you would be advised to take more pride in your true roots and forget your quest to become Moor, egyptian, libyan, Olmec, Greek, Israelite...
Peace.
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 I know what leo and scipio did in the land called africa. I also know that the conquered amazigh people's land was called africa as a colony...but there is no way you would have been to the temples in abu simbel, wasat, luxor and so on and tell me that these people did not preceed blacks today?? So tell me where we came from?
You have not travelled to the right places so your resource is ignorance and the web. I have the history and the work of yakub..I know where everyone is from.
Avabz 1 year ago
@Avabz
How can you say I don’t know anything about Egypt when I am a North African?
Yes I know Abu Simbel .. and the faces of Ramases II are not those of a Sub-saharan west african
I knew Egyptian people all my life and I also knew many west Africans and I am absolutely certain that Modern and Ancient Egyptians are one and the same.
And this was confirmed recently even by top Afrocentrist scholar shomarka omar keita.
Hands off Egypt and try and be proud of your own true roots
Wassil29 1 year ago
cont
And who is Leo?
Then name Africa existed long before any roman... it's called after the local Amazigh Afri Tribes of Tunisia.
And when scipio Africanus arrived in North Africa with a large Quantity of gold to buy support against Carthage ... at this very time his own country Italy was still occupied by Hannibal for 17 years.
When Hannibal heard and raced back to Africa he realised that he lost the support of the Numidian cavalry .. and that is the key to his defeat!
Wassil29 1 year ago
After the Battle of Zama and the defeat of Hannibal ..scipio offered tribute to Massinissa including a gold crown in recognition of saving Rome from Hannibal's threat.
The Romans Left North Africa
around 150 years later a civil war started in Rome after Julius Caesar marched on Rome and started a war with Pompeii.... many Romans fled to Numidia where king Juba offered them refuge from Caesar ... that civil war spread into north Africa ... Juba and his roman alies defeated and a new Era began..
Wassil29 1 year ago
To cut the story short ...Juba II who was brought up and helped by Caesar and his nephew Augustus who will later become 1st roman ... He helped Juba build a mangnificent new capital in mauritania and married him to the daugher of cleopatra queen of Egypt .. who's name was Selene.
So you see The relationship between Rome and North Africa isn't that of a conquered Amazigh... .. on the contrary .. a few decades later African senetor and later Emperors will rule Rome itself .
Wassil29 1 year ago
@Wassil29 wassil you are still using other people's sources as fact for how the people of the land looked. I have been there so I don't need sources. As for ramesu which you call ramses 2nd he is a mulato. Not all the people of mizraim where black. I know my true traditions...no way those people would have been ruled by amazigh as you called them. As for the rest of hannibal & rome you need to recheck your sources from more ancient texts. Modern sources are watered down. Do yourself a favour.
Avabz 1 year ago
@Avabz
I don't understand what you're trying to say?
Are you saying that if the ancient remains like the triumphal arch of septimus severus in rome and in lepcis magna say he is a an AFrican libyan .... we should not trust them?
perhaps Europeans build those remains recently to promote a fictitious ancient libyan Amazigh Emperor ?
You're not making any sense!!! RamasesII .. A Molato ?
you have a healthy imagination Avabz
Wassil29 1 year ago
ha ha ha Septimius severus becoming the Governor of Britain ???
Septimus severus ( a Libyan white Amazigh Berber) was never the Governor of Britain, he was the governor of Upper Pannonia before becoming the emperor of Rome.
Severus defeated Clodius Albinus Governor of Britain who too was a White Amazigh ( Berber) from the province of Africa now known as Tunisia.
Dr Clarke is Charlatan who's full of arrogance and Ignorance about even the commonly well known historical Events:)
Wassil29 2 years ago
why does he call luis farakahn a fake?
rjohson 2 years ago
because he does not agree with nation of islam . and Dr. Clark and Malcom X were good freinds. it is more to it but that is all i know
BamaBoy205SR 2 years ago 5
Because all Charlatans do not appreciate competition :)
Wassil29 2 years ago
cuz actually farakahn is a part of the forces. Yep it was a bitter pill to swallow but my man is on the payroll
nappyg1 2 years ago 5
African does not equal black Clarke.
Artemistech 2 years ago
i have to jump in and kill this fool odin...one who looks but obviously does not want to see.greek and jewish homosexuality,this whitemans scurvy and plagues...his aids and his infatuation with beastiality...the early greeks were black and so were the nordic peoples of the world who are now white you people like odin and the like are descendants of albinos its the truth white was a sickness in ancient times remember that with all that damn hair on your back. i could go on and on about pale face
STARCHYLD77 2 years ago
Black homosexuality is three times that of whites per capita. your ghetto schlarship could only be believed by you, a silly group of silly individuals, don't ever change.
Averyofthemain 2 years ago
Dr Clark! We miss you!!!!
Kinghercules 2 years ago
the truth always reveals itself
tamaduni 2 years ago
World history was greatly distorted in favor of those who have killed in the name of god. But which god did they or do they kill for? A supreme being remember "thou shall not kill" or the 1 which fits in your pocket and is colored green? Watch the history channel, everyday something new becomes clear and debunks what we swore was truth. The books are out there read them! Most of us swore there was a Santa Clause, then we matured. Same damn shit. We are correcting their racism with truth. TRUISM
groundpounder35 3 years ago 4
racism with truism i like that
FBHOME1 2 years ago
Correcting (their) racism, with TRUISM. Or the belief in telling the truth since an 'ism' is a belief. The problem is that their lies are so ignorant, so blatant, idiotic, confusing, 1sided, sometimes well thought out, others times not, that they figured people would just trut them at pale face value, that no1 would check for themselves. Thank goodness for our scholars.
groundpounder35 2 years ago
yes it is so funny how if they don't feel like they can fit in or that it don't follow their agenda they try to pull the race card.they will go to the extreme to create false bust and bones and dates etc.. they are such a joke.
FBHOME1 2 years ago
Your ghetto scholarship is the laughingstock of the world, even in africa, where african scholars think you are low and stupid for believing nonsense. Hahahahahaha!
Averyofthemain 2 years ago
Don't you realize that this is exactly what we are complaining about? A purposeful distortion of world history. A eurocentric p.o.v. designed to keep all non whites in a submissive posture. But we see it from 2 points of view. He never preached hate, please check out some of his other speeches, I know this because I heard him say so. The problem you and most others have is "what if it is true?, where do we fit in?" Its pretty convient that the accolades alog with the spoils go to the victor.
groundpounder35 3 years ago
Why is it that Blacks can tell racist lies about history and nobody calls them racist?
OdinCalls14 3 years ago
Why is it when a person finds a truth that is not popular to the status quo then that person becomes racist? Finds the same truth that is apparent to anyone who cares enough or smart enough to examine and make sense of that truth makes him a racist? By definition is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. Dr. Clarke is justly, erasing the racism thats already here with truth.
groundpounder35 3 years ago
Well, I certainly don't think he's trying to erase racism. And even if he is, he's going about it the wrong way. Distorting history is only going to upset people who place importance on history and culture. What's going to happen when people actually do the research themselves and see he's lying?
The reason I think he's a racist is because it seems like he's just stealing White history because he doesn't want to give Whites credit for Greece.
OdinCalls14 3 years ago
history in it self is a distortion, this vid alone shows that we will never know the truth about history..scholars will continue to debate and conflict, i say live your life in accordance to your realty today
jwriter04 3 years ago
Granted we'll never understand history 100%, but there are certain things we should believe because all the evidence says so.
And, likewise, there's some evidence that is so laughably bad, like this video, that we should discard.
OdinCalls14 3 years ago
when this so called "evidence" is always in complete conflict then CLEARLY it can never be considered SOLID... This vid is a clear example.. You only end up with BOTH sides feeling as though they're correct and the other WRONG
jwriter04 3 years ago
the racist lies of history by white-people
kemetkush 3 years ago
You call it racist when Blacks take credit for their own historical contributions & when credit for those proven achievments isnt attributed to Whites. It has become racist to not except the Eurocentric narration of history. To correct inconsistent history is now racist. When doing so Whites develop a sense of guilt, and the only way they can express it is by saying, the people who made me feel that way are racist". Nice trick! Now: Euro dest. of Africa = Black dest. of Euro ego...Please!
medit84truth 2 years ago
That's not true at all. I fully give Blacks credit for the kingdom of Kush.
The reason I'd say these Afrocentrists are racist is because they know damn well that Egypt wasn't a Black civilization. I don't know if you've noticed this yet, but the ONLY people who make these claims are Black supremacists. No real historian, Black or White, believes that the original Egyptians were Black.
And c'mon, Eurocentric narration of history? History has been distorted so badly to make Whites look bad.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
What country do you live in? k-12 we are taught a euphoric, happy go lucky history surrounding the formation of the Euro-American empire. You act as if the oppressor has told the full truth about history for the past 4 centuries, when he hasn't and it's been proven. That's what I mean by narration, his version. Also, Is slavery a distortion? Were the Tuskegee experiments a distortion? Was the slaughter of natives a distortion? Was the Holocaust a distortion?....
medit84truth 2 years ago
lmao, oh god. A happy go luck history?
Dude, the American education system purposely leaves out the fact that White Americans purchased Black slaves from Black slave owners. It leaves out the fact that the Amerindians attacked European settlers first. It leaves out the fact that the Jews declared war on Germany and basically started WWII.
Do some reading.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
...Was 20 million Africans dead in diamond minds a distortion? Ethnic cleansing, bombing of Black Wallstreet in Tulsa, lynching, denial of human rights, not even beeing seen as humans to justify the previous one, police brutality, 75% more time for the same crimes, etc. I could keep going if you like. The Only people who've made whites look bad is themselves. I'm not holding these and other things against Europeans, but don't act like it didn't happen.
medit84truth 2 years ago
But that's just it, all this stuff IS talked about in American history. You act like America is trying to deny these things.
I think it's good that we learn about stuff like this. My only problem is that we ignore all the atrocities non-Whites have committed.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
"the only ones making these claims are Black supremacist."
Clever tactic. So, now if I make any claim of Black achievement without European involvment, I would then automatically be classified as a Black supremist. That way, you ilegitimize the valid findings of those Afrocentrists who aren't Black supremacist. It seems like Whites don't want to accept the fact that Black Africans had a civilization without help from them, even when excluding Egypt.
medit84truth 2 years ago
"So, now if I make any claim of Black achievement without European involvment, I would then automatically be classified as a Black supremist."
Go back and read what I said. The only people claiming Egypt was Black are Black supremacists. I never said ANY claim of Black achievement is racist.
Maybe if you knew how to read, you'd see that I said the kingdom of Kush was a Black achievement.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
There's a logical fallacy involving your understanding and use of the word supreme. Supreme has to do with being great, transcendent or high. If Africans try to reclaim greatness, even without taking anything away from whites, it offends whites because they have viewed themselves as the greatest for centuries. Whites used that word in reference to their supremacy/power over others, not in reference to their own achievements. Different people, different language, even though its the same word.
medit84truth 2 years ago
Well, people are always accusing racially conscious Whites of being "White supremacists," so apparently the word is used by everyone that way.
By the way, you really need to knock that chip off your shoulder. Do you really think Whites don't want Blacks to achieve things on their own? I wish they did, then maybe we'd be able to stop supporting Africa.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
And finally, Whites like to catch headaches over the results of history and not focus on the circumstances that created the negative oppositions. Without the detrimental ideologies, actions, behavior, and conduct on a global scale, there would be no need for Afrocentrism and Black supremacy wouldn't even exist.
medit84truth 2 years ago
Oh, it would still exist. Whites have given Blacks more than any race should ever recieve. For all the affirmative action and hand outs, Blacks who are fustrated with their own lack of achievements still try to steal White history and blame the White man for his living in poverty.
Blacks need to start listening to Bill Cosby. Stop blaming your failures on other people, story distorting the past, and just try to create a better future.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
oh! see it people with your lack of knowing the truth and excepting the truth you given black folks nothing you steal much. no one is waving a supremacy flag our elders are just setting the record straight. white man has little history they have only been around for 833 bc of the common era. know your history.
FBHOME1 2 years ago
So why is it the ONLY people who believe in the "Black Egypt" theory are Black supremacists?
The White race has civilization dating back to 35,000 BC. The American education system ignores most of White history. We've done plenty before Greece.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
35,000BC? LOL!
Oh yeah? Where at?
Kinghercules 2 years ago
Do some reading about the Late Paleolithic Age in Europe. We've found cave paintings in France dating from 20,000 BC. The earliest art work ever was a small statue of a pregnant woman found in Austria from 30,000 BC.
I don't blame you for not knowing this, the American education system has distorted history a lot so things look less racist.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
90,000 yr old iron mine found in south africa. try again. 150,000yr old silt pyramids of the mountains of the moon. step your game up
Ausar25 2 years ago
Step my game up? I'm just saying that the American education system ignores most of White history.
Of course there's older stuff in Africa, that's where humanity came from, so there should be.
And what does the moon have to do with any of this?
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
he mentions the moon to say that its nt significant that old payrimids was found on earth to me 90,000 when it is more fascinating to find a parymid on the moon; or on mars. they actually found a 7 sory buildng on the moon.
rjohson 2 years ago
I think mountains of the moon is the name of some mountains in Africa.
Artemistech 2 years ago
who said there was a pyramid on the moon? was it in the new york times? or on time magazine? second there is no way in the world can any one tell if something is 5000yrs 90,000 yrs or 1 million yrs its a hoax carbon dating is a hoax.
rjohson 2 years ago
what!?!? man get real, you are going to tell me that carbon dating is a hoax, but yet say there is a 7 story building on the moon, man please. also if you were reading my comment i said nothing about a pyramid on the moon.
Ausar25 2 years ago
google carbon dating and put in hoax or is it reliable and do the reserch your self. any time they want to date something they give u a span of years they can be off by at leat 1 million yrs; the reason is is because they are just guestimating basiscally a wild guess.
rjohson 2 years ago
no is a black supremacis you can't point out one black supreacists you are making a hollow point. I can't believe you said "America education system Ignore most of white history" what planet are you from. that's all they teach.that's some dumb shit! give me names and dates educate me. you can't do it .empty words that all you have. i'm waiting come on. 833bc anything else is a lie.
FBHOME1 2 years ago 3
Ok, give me the names of some non-racist, REAL historians who believe the Egyptians were Black. I bet you can't name any.
White societies before 833 BC:
Troy - 3000 BC
Cycladic Greece - 3000 BC
Helladic Greece - 2800 BC
Crete - 2700 BC
Hittie Empire - 1400 BC
Etruria - 1200 BC BC
There were also cultures during the Neolithic, which created the Megalith temples, Stonehenge, and other impressive structures.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
good try I have to let you know that you are not dealing wiith a lightweight the names I am about to share with you all begain with DR. I dare you to look them up and listen to them here on you tube. but you have an agenda and don't want to know the truth Dr.chancellor William Dr yosef ben jochannan DR. cheikh Anta Diop Dr ray hagins they all just want the truth. I dare you.oh I see you know of DR. clarke.the dare is on.
FBHOME1 2 years ago
lol, oh god, where do I begin?
Chancellor William first became respected in the Afrocentric community, where ANYONE can make it, as long as you have pro-Black lies. At that point, not honoring him would be considered "racist." I'd also like to point at he denied there was cannibalism in Africa.
Yosef Ben-Jochannan is a joke. He claimed that Aristotle and Alexander the Great travelled to Egypt to learn at the library of Alexanderia, which was actually constructed after they both died.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
Hahahahaha, that's so true. The library was after them both, hahahahaha! I love these afrocentrists, their stupidity is so thick, so obvious, so friggin' beautiful hahahahahahaha!
Averyofthemain 2 years ago
The only cretin comedy is from you.
These are our great let alone inspirational scholars that not only our teachings us, but deliving the truth.
peasah2005 2 years ago
@peasah2005 Yes. Lefkowitz is a great scholar delivering truth. We agree!
hannityforpres 2 years ago
Who said, I agreed with you about that Lefikowitz.
You so-called agreed with her, did I?
I know what your about, so don't even try it.
peasah2005 2 years ago
@peasah2005 You said "these are our great scholars"
hannityforpres 2 years ago
And what if I did?
You wouldn't understand.
Go and diie!
peasah2005 2 years ago
@peasah2005 Clarke has a degree from Pacific Western University, which is NOT an accredited university. The government investigated them for handing out worthless degrees. Look it up. The other 3 people are real scholars. Clarke is more a preacher and activist than a scholar. fact.
hannityforpres 2 years ago
Afrocentrists aren't interested in truth. You guys are interested in lies that boost your ego.
OdinCalls14 2 years ago
@OdinCalls14 Im no Afro-centrist but prove them wrong. What lies are you talking about? Give examples.
tw1704 1 year ago
@tw1704
Dude, just look at the cultures of Egypt and Greece. Look at their architecture, their statues, their politics, and their philosophies. Can you honestly say Greece got everything from Egypt? Egypt had pyramids, Greece had many diverse styles, none of which were pyramids. Egypt had a ruler believed to be a god, Greece had democracy in some states and oligarchies in others.
Further more, the fact that these people still think the original Egyptians were Black is just sad.
OdinCalls14 1 year ago
@OdinCalls14 If the early ancient Egyptians were not originally Africans from the south, where did they come from? If Egyptian is a race, where did they come from? Democracy started with many different culture before Greece. The closest culture to resemble Egypt is ancient Ethiopia. <--Prove me wrong. Refer to the early Greek writers and explorers who often refered to Egypt as the originators of many things including thier own Gods.
tw1704 1 year ago
They came from North Africa.
Egyptian is not a race, it's an ethnic group.
It is universally accepted that democracy was born in Athens.
Culture doesn't denote race.
Greek writers identified their gods with other gods. They never said the Egyptians were the originators of their gods.
OdinCalls14 1 year ago
@OdinCalls14 Learn about the early Egyptian(African)concept of God and spirituality before you judge. When you respond, use EVIDENCE to prove your case.
tw1704 1 year ago
@tw1704 What do god and spirituality have anything to do with this?
You have yet to show any evidence proving the Egyptians were Black.
OdinCalls14 1 year ago
@OdinCalls14 This afro-centric always answered with another question and not answers. Don't waste you time.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 U are the clown i was talking about. You never answered or disproved one thing. Im no Afro-centrist. Im a more of an Pan-Africanist. TAKE THE INFORMATION AND PROVE OR DISPROVE IT WITH EVIDENCE. OPINIONS DONT COUNT. EVIDENCE! PROOF! NOT OPINIONS AND BIASES!
tw1704 1 year ago
@twit 1704 Do you understand what you have just uttered, I guess not. If you are a pan-africanist, you are pro-african, which means you favor a pro-afro-centric viewpoint, as such you have then aligned yourself with afro-centrics, but you and I know all you are doing is mincing words to Act as an unbiased observer, which you're not and doesn't hide the obvious, you are an afro-centric. You come off more as an spineless-africanist. AND YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE, and it seems a poorly veiled opinion.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
The difference that makes no difference is no difference.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 if you claim that i have no EVIDENCE, LET US BEGAN.
LETS SHOW ALL THOSE WHO READ OUR COMMENTS WHATS WHAT. Lets start with the origins of Ancient Egypt.
tw1704 1 year ago
@twit, you twitter me I claimed you have not evidence. The difference that makes no difference is no difference.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 I believe all who read now understand why your here. You just made my point. Im done.
tw1704 1 year ago
@twit WHAT you say, tWillis? pan-africanist, Hilarious!
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 Why do you continue to come to these videos? Do you read your own comments and responses? Calling name because you have no evidence is immature. I actually feel sorry for you. Do you have other hobbies because your embarrassing yourself. Lets just leave it alone.
tw1704 1 year ago