Ooops! ...I'm sorry, America and its school administers. I promise I won't sleep out in front of the ECB ever again. I shouldn't have taken the UDHR seriously and just shut my mouth abroad.
Well universities are personally responsible for students. Unless the students directly enrolls. I remember going to India and a student got in trouble for riding on the back of a motor bike.
I was told to steer clear of the demonstrations in Greece when I went abroad...and I was more than happy to do so. They tell us to stay away for our own safety, so I have no problem with it.
Those idiots. they can't protest in a country that is not their own unless they want to spend the remainder of their time in that country in jail. American kids think they can do any thing without even thinking first...damn idiots...
Furthermore, who do they think they are to protest as fucking student learning abroad? Bunch of jokes
"American kids think they can do any thing without even thinking first...damn idiots..."
That's a very broad generalization. It's not an issue with American kids in general, it's just those particular kids. Like in any culture, some people are idiots and some are not. If you think about it, nobody does a story on all of the American kids abroad who don't get involved and thus don't get locked up.
Dude, you get your student VISA cancelled in a foreign country if they can get you on anything. There goes all your tuition fees, and rent deposits. After that, you'll have to find another university back home or at another country and the relocation costs hit you hard.
If a student abroad wants to protest, they better know what rights to speech they have in those countries. America's "freedom of speech" is not how it works in other countries, "freedom of speech" has some very set, and more conservative limits, even in Europe.
@tf08js2 Can't tell if that is a joke or if you really missed the point of the video.
The video is about students foreign to countries like Egypt being told not to protest there, not foreign people in the US being told not to protest at OWS.
It just occurred to me that TYT's top comments are usually very good ones. I'm sick of seeing repetitive mindless bull for top comments. (thumbs up, anything relating to dislike bar, etc.) I love TYT.
I'm studying abroad in Europe, I haven't been warned, they don't really bother us. They appear to junk be there to help. I'm sure they have heavy surveillance of all Americans abroad, but not so public. Imperialist nations with corpoate control will do this.
@youngbuck189 I disagree, no one cares whatever the American students are doing. Opposed to some culture of people who are known to get involved, such as the Germans the French, American students dont have the reputation to be very courageous in confronting any form of authority, at least physically. I have a lifetime of experience with demonstrations from 1968 in Paris as a kid and growing up with an activist mother.
Personally i would stay clear of Tahrir sq. while showing support on social networks and at events. Debating the Muslim Brothers and asking the Salafis the tough questions.
No American wants to be caught standing next to an outlaw throwing molotov cocktail at the Egyptian Armed Forces or next to banner that reads in Arabic "Hillary, you failed to attract your husband with your femininity. We dont buy your motherly feeling for our children". Nonetheless, foreigners, especially Americans, are not welcomed by many of the parties. Yes, many would love the gesture of support but non of them would want to be tainted as "agent or puppet of the West".
Ive been living in Cairo for 6 years. Things here are way more complicated than portrayed in American mainstream media. Participating in the protests earlier in the year would have made sense but were way more dangerous. Today the situation isnt that clear. Different parties and sects calling for protests every Friday each one with separate demands. The protesters are infiltrated by thugs and outlaws almost each week.
Incredibly ignorant to compare Wall Street protests. While they're similar in their ideas and motivations, it's apple and oranges. Both have legitimate grievances but the Arab Spring protests are fighting for the future of their country and most and willing to die for it. Not the same thing.
@hamrite They're fighting for its future and they may be willing to get arrested but I think very few would be willing to die for it. Egypt has been kept under an authoritarian boot for decades and the people is getting its first taste of freedom, I don't see how they can be compared in this manner.
And I've participated in OWS protests both in my hometown and in NYC, my point is you can compare the motivation and ideas behind the protests, but the protests themselves are very different.
The way I understand it, citizens get rights that non citizen residents do not get, in a bunch of countries. I assumed the U.S was like that, so why wouldn't a place like Germany or Egypt be the same?
i think that it makes sense for americans not to protest in other countrys because they are getting the free benefits of that country and the other countrys are still better then america and this is a ha bisky upload
I've given up on tyt for political stuff. Go to a protest in a country you don't understand that well and put yourself in a position where you will likely be detained while thousands of miles from friends and family. Doing this is just asking to "disapear". Tyt has just become all about fighting establishment no matter how dangerous.
"I don't know what's more dangerous." .......A protest in Oakland vs. the protests in Egypt....are you kidding me? Americans complaining about some pepper spray compared to what happened/is happening in Egypt makes us look like a bunch of fucking pussies.
I'm studying abroad next semester in Europe. The number one rule on our code of conduct handbook was not to participate in any political events. The number two rule was safe sex.
@loveofphysics i think it depends on the country because the countrys that are doing better then america i have to say hell no you are getting their free benefits as well you have no right to protest there but if its some place like eygpt then i say you can try but know the risks and you probably shouldnt be going there for college or anything really anyways right now
@AgrivatedKillah Totally man. I find it immature and unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, Ana's attractive as hell, but that doesn't give people the right to make comments like "Let me drop a load in your throat!" It's just plain wrong.
It's your embassy's business if you're thrown in jail. Anyone traveling abroad should know that if you're arrested in another country, first thing you do is ask for a representative from your embassy. Although US embassies don't have great reputations, they'll still get you out (if you're wrongly arrested ofc).
@thetruth006 you mean our government? because I as an American do not feel represented by our idiotic government. They have every right in the world to do so!
@garytcw I do acknowledge the institutions, programs, etc that the government has provided over the years and I do appreciate them. But at the same time, there is MUCH MUCH room for improvement and I do not believe they are going in the right course for our nation whatsoever. So in that fashion, no, I do not feel like I am represented by a government who does not listen to their people.
why wouldn't they be told not to? The people saying that need to set rules in their best interest. Getting arrested helps neither them nor the college, so why wouldn't they be given that advice?
They probably shouldn't. They have no clue what they are getting into and we don't need another damn incident for an excuse to invade another country.
not necessarily. The state Department cannot protect students legally if they are detained in a foreign country. I think its a good policy. in a lot of countries it is illegal for foreigners to participate in protest and its a big enough offense to be deported.that can look very bad on a background check if you plan on living/working overseas. Anyway if people want to protest well go ahead. as a foreigner I feel I don't have a say as it isn't my society.
"as a foreigner I feel I don't have a say as it isn't my society."
That is one of the cruxes of the argument. And you just stated it yourself. We have protests in America for things hat would affect those students when they come back and had they been in a country that did not see the diplomatic repercussions of those stupid students protesting for things that will never affect them then it would have been disastrous. The "bigger than yourself" thing is wearing thin as a excuse.
@TheTruth006 What a stupid blanket statement. There is no real reason to assume that a person who is living in the country and going to school there isn't aware of the struggles and plights of the people that they fucking live with.
It isn't stupid. You're the one stupid enough to think that students should protest in a country that they won't even be apart of later. It's not their society and it's stupid to think that they want your help. And it's stupid to assume a T.E. Lawrence attitude around things that they probably aren't even aware of. And the diplomatic problems if they were caught in a country more violent than Egypt would have been disastrous.
@TheTruth006 Another ignorant blanket statement that, I'm starting to think you're just a troll.
Plenty of foreign students decide to move permanently to the country they are learning in. And what a horrendously ignorant statement it is to assume that a student in that position wouldn't be well educated on the culture they are very much embedded in. Hell, many of them are there studying the country's history, so they probably know more than a good number of the locals.
Knowing the history and being subject to their daily politics are two different things. American students studying at a university are guests of the state. They are not citizens and not subject to the daily society as that of the people. And judging from the statements recently made by those stupid students they had no clue what they got into. Most of Egypts population make less that $2 a week and those protests are destroying the city.I don't think they even live in the same bracket.
@TheTruth006 How do you figure they're not subject to the society? They pay for the school, rent, and food. If they work the jobs there then you can be sure they have the same wages as their national co-workers.
And this isn't even the point of the video. The point is that the advice shouldn't have been "don't" protest, it should have been "use caution". And if you think that nationalities separate use from our fellow humans, I invite you to fuck off.
" And if you think that nationalities separate use from our fellow humans, I invite you to fuck off."
This is not an argument. We are not all relative humans stuck in space. We have our own societies, political systems, and customs we adhere to and if you are not part of that society you should not be protesting. If I had a dispute in my family it is not for you to get involved as I'm sure would be the same case with you. That is the same on a macro scale.
@TheTruth006 If the dispute in your family is that your child is being starved or beaten then it damn sure is my business as well as society's business. If you're an even moderately intelligent person then you'll understand how it is analogous on an international scale.
@TheTruth006 So true besides they can be sent back home and banned from entering the country again (applies to ALL the country's in the world that I know of)
And so there goes all they're College/Uni money AND they're education.
Ooops! ...I'm sorry, America and its school administers. I promise I won't sleep out in front of the ECB ever again. I shouldn't have taken the UDHR seriously and just shut my mouth abroad.
dougalsii 2 months ago
those people abroad wanting a democracy should look at our country and then reevaluate
StoneTNo5 2 months ago
Well universities are personally responsible for students. Unless the students directly enrolls. I remember going to India and a student got in trouble for riding on the back of a motor bike.
Sagefrakrobatik 2 months ago in playlist news video for the day
Audio quality is great, but there is too much echo in the new studio. What happened to the acoustic foam from the previous studio?
JIYkp 2 months ago
I was told to steer clear of the demonstrations in Greece when I went abroad...and I was more than happy to do so. They tell us to stay away for our own safety, so I have no problem with it.
nothlithawk777 2 months ago
I thought the clip was about USA telling lets say swedish people inside USA to not protest because USA police is brutal.
SuperAwesomecomment 2 months ago
Wouldn't be my business to join the protest.
Also, wouldn't want to get shot.
Also, pyramids are cooler than protests... I'd be looking at pyramids... all day...
MiloDaemon 2 months ago
Those idiots. they can't protest in a country that is not their own unless they want to spend the remainder of their time in that country in jail. American kids think they can do any thing without even thinking first...damn idiots...
Furthermore, who do they think they are to protest as fucking student learning abroad? Bunch of jokes
wiibot15 2 months ago
@wiibot15
"American kids think they can do any thing without even thinking first...damn idiots..."
That's a very broad generalization. It's not an issue with American kids in general, it's just those particular kids. Like in any culture, some people are idiots and some are not. If you think about it, nobody does a story on all of the American kids abroad who don't get involved and thus don't get locked up.
kuunami 2 months ago
Lol the protesters in America are fighting for democracy just as much as those in Egypt...
Yamikaiba123 2 months ago
@Yamikaiba123 And they are doing worse, it seems, in the States.
How the mighty have fallen.
Hamhark98 2 months ago
Dude, you get your student VISA cancelled in a foreign country if they can get you on anything. There goes all your tuition fees, and rent deposits. After that, you'll have to find another university back home or at another country and the relocation costs hit you hard.
JohnWoo 2 months ago
If a student abroad wants to protest, they better know what rights to speech they have in those countries. America's "freedom of speech" is not how it works in other countries, "freedom of speech" has some very set, and more conservative limits, even in Europe.
samiam2088 2 months ago
@tf08js2 Can't tell if that is a joke or if you really missed the point of the video.
The video is about students foreign to countries like Egypt being told not to protest there, not foreign people in the US being told not to protest at OWS.
Hamhark98 2 months ago
ows ended very horribly in my town
melojordans23 2 months ago
It just occurred to me that TYT's top comments are usually very good ones. I'm sick of seeing repetitive mindless bull for top comments. (thumbs up, anything relating to dislike bar, etc.) I love TYT.
OwlheartXx 2 months ago
I'm studying abroad in Europe, I haven't been warned, they don't really bother us. They appear to junk be there to help. I'm sure they have heavy surveillance of all Americans abroad, but not so public. Imperialist nations with corpoate control will do this.
youngbuck189 2 months ago
@youngbuck189 I disagree, no one cares whatever the American students are doing. Opposed to some culture of people who are known to get involved, such as the Germans the French, American students dont have the reputation to be very courageous in confronting any form of authority, at least physically. I have a lifetime of experience with demonstrations from 1968 in Paris as a kid and growing up with an activist mother.
hamrite 2 months ago
@hamrite The American government cares what every American is doing. The European governments couldn't care less.
youngbuck189 2 months ago
Personally i would stay clear of Tahrir sq. while showing support on social networks and at events. Debating the Muslim Brothers and asking the Salafis the tough questions.
prep4md 2 months ago
No American wants to be caught standing next to an outlaw throwing molotov cocktail at the Egyptian Armed Forces or next to banner that reads in Arabic "Hillary, you failed to attract your husband with your femininity. We dont buy your motherly feeling for our children". Nonetheless, foreigners, especially Americans, are not welcomed by many of the parties. Yes, many would love the gesture of support but non of them would want to be tainted as "agent or puppet of the West".
prep4md 2 months ago
Ive been living in Cairo for 6 years. Things here are way more complicated than portrayed in American mainstream media. Participating in the protests earlier in the year would have made sense but were way more dangerous. Today the situation isnt that clear. Different parties and sects calling for protests every Friday each one with separate demands. The protesters are infiltrated by thugs and outlaws almost each week.
prep4md 2 months ago
Incredibly ignorant to compare Wall Street protests. While they're similar in their ideas and motivations, it's apple and oranges. Both have legitimate grievances but the Arab Spring protests are fighting for the future of their country and most and willing to die for it. Not the same thing.
itwashappiness 2 months ago
@itwashappiness and you dont believe OWS is actually fighting for the future of America?
What do you think they are doing? partying ?
hamrite 2 months ago
@hamrite They're fighting for its future and they may be willing to get arrested but I think very few would be willing to die for it. Egypt has been kept under an authoritarian boot for decades and the people is getting its first taste of freedom, I don't see how they can be compared in this manner.
And I've participated in OWS protests both in my hometown and in NYC, my point is you can compare the motivation and ideas behind the protests, but the protests themselves are very different.
itwashappiness 2 months ago
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Why would they? If they aren't citizens then it's none of their business.
iwantalienstotakeme 2 months ago
Isn't it illegal to go protest somewhere where you are not a citizen?
unabomberman 2 months ago
@unabomberman Not unless it's illegal to protest where you are....
Nemesis000000 2 months ago
@Nemesis000000
The way I understand it, citizens get rights that non citizen residents do not get, in a bunch of countries. I assumed the U.S was like that, so why wouldn't a place like Germany or Egypt be the same?
I'm not even from the U.S. Just asking.
unabomberman 2 months ago
i think that it makes sense for americans not to protest in other countrys because they are getting the free benefits of that country and the other countrys are still better then america and this is a ha bisky upload
kazooga1234 2 months ago
I've given up on tyt for political stuff. Go to a protest in a country you don't understand that well and put yourself in a position where you will likely be detained while thousands of miles from friends and family. Doing this is just asking to "disapear". Tyt has just become all about fighting establishment no matter how dangerous.
clm51193 2 months ago 2
@clm51193 i've given up on you completely.
thrashblackdeath666 2 months ago
"I don't know what's more dangerous." .......A protest in Oakland vs. the protests in Egypt....are you kidding me? Americans complaining about some pepper spray compared to what happened/is happening in Egypt makes us look like a bunch of fucking pussies.
JMarkD89 2 months ago
How OBVIOUS!
I'm studying abroad next semester in Europe. The number one rule on our code of conduct handbook was not to participate in any political events. The number two rule was safe sex.
TheSocial411 2 months ago
big deal, the 1% doesn't want us to protest period, why bother listening to them, just protest damn it!
loveofphysics 2 months ago
@loveofphysics Well, there's the 1%. And then there are haters.
restlesspride666 2 months ago
@loveofphysics i think it depends on the country because the countrys that are doing better then america i have to say hell no you are getting their free benefits as well you have no right to protest there but if its some place like eygpt then i say you can try but know the risks and you probably shouldnt be going there for college or anything really anyways right now
kazooga1234 2 months ago
TYT
Can you please censor all the comments mentioning Ana in a demeaning way?
I'm a guy but it's disrespectful as fuck. Imagine if this was your sister, or aunt.
AgrivatedKillah 2 months ago
@AgrivatedKillah Totally man. I find it immature and unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, Ana's attractive as hell, but that doesn't give people the right to make comments like "Let me drop a load in your throat!" It's just plain wrong.
ShinoAburame37 2 months ago
@ShinoAburame37 Word... smh
Future rapist on the rise I tell you.
AgrivatedKillah 2 months ago
too much echo
endauthority 2 months ago
It's your embassy's business if you're thrown in jail. Anyone traveling abroad should know that if you're arrested in another country, first thing you do is ask for a representative from your embassy. Although US embassies don't have great reputations, they'll still get you out (if you're wrongly arrested ofc).
NeccoWecco 2 months ago 41
@NeccoWecco That certainly worked well for Amanda Knox...
Nayr747 2 months ago
@thetruth006 you mean our government? because I as an American do not feel represented by our idiotic government. They have every right in the world to do so!
anthonyponcex 2 months ago
@anthonyponcex You do not feel represented by your government, but your government surely does stuff on behalf of YOU.
garytcw 2 months ago
@garytcw I do acknowledge the institutions, programs, etc that the government has provided over the years and I do appreciate them. But at the same time, there is MUCH MUCH room for improvement and I do not believe they are going in the right course for our nation whatsoever. So in that fashion, no, I do not feel like I am represented by a government who does not listen to their people.
anthonyponcex 2 months ago
When the US sets a travel advisory do people get mad about stomping on there freedom?
Its good advice you might want to take it, but feel free not to
caseyvill 2 months ago
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Ana your fucking beautiful, like I wish I can drop a load on your _ _ _ _
eangeles92 2 months ago
why wouldn't they be told not to? The people saying that need to set rules in their best interest. Getting arrested helps neither them nor the college, so why wouldn't they be given that advice?
prettychainsaw 2 months ago
ana can i fuck you :)
wawieism 2 months ago
@wawieism Get a life first.
tikay69 2 months ago
They probably shouldn't. They have no clue what they are getting into and we don't need another damn incident for an excuse to invade another country.
TheTruth006 2 months ago 79
@TheTruth006
not necessarily. The state Department cannot protect students legally if they are detained in a foreign country. I think its a good policy. in a lot of countries it is illegal for foreigners to participate in protest and its a big enough offense to be deported.that can look very bad on a background check if you plan on living/working overseas. Anyway if people want to protest well go ahead. as a foreigner I feel I don't have a say as it isn't my society.
lordblazer 2 months ago
@lordblazer
"as a foreigner I feel I don't have a say as it isn't my society."
That is one of the cruxes of the argument. And you just stated it yourself. We have protests in America for things hat would affect those students when they come back and had they been in a country that did not see the diplomatic repercussions of those stupid students protesting for things that will never affect them then it would have been disastrous. The "bigger than yourself" thing is wearing thin as a excuse.
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 What a stupid blanket statement. There is no real reason to assume that a person who is living in the country and going to school there isn't aware of the struggles and plights of the people that they fucking live with.
inademv 2 months ago
@inademv
It isn't stupid. You're the one stupid enough to think that students should protest in a country that they won't even be apart of later. It's not their society and it's stupid to think that they want your help. And it's stupid to assume a T.E. Lawrence attitude around things that they probably aren't even aware of. And the diplomatic problems if they were caught in a country more violent than Egypt would have been disastrous.
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 Another ignorant blanket statement that, I'm starting to think you're just a troll.
Plenty of foreign students decide to move permanently to the country they are learning in. And what a horrendously ignorant statement it is to assume that a student in that position wouldn't be well educated on the culture they are very much embedded in. Hell, many of them are there studying the country's history, so they probably know more than a good number of the locals.
inademv 2 months ago
@inademv
Knowing the history and being subject to their daily politics are two different things. American students studying at a university are guests of the state. They are not citizens and not subject to the daily society as that of the people. And judging from the statements recently made by those stupid students they had no clue what they got into. Most of Egypts population make less that $2 a week and those protests are destroying the city.I don't think they even live in the same bracket.
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 How do you figure they're not subject to the society? They pay for the school, rent, and food. If they work the jobs there then you can be sure they have the same wages as their national co-workers.
And this isn't even the point of the video. The point is that the advice shouldn't have been "don't" protest, it should have been "use caution". And if you think that nationalities separate use from our fellow humans, I invite you to fuck off.
inademv 2 months ago
@inademv
" And if you think that nationalities separate use from our fellow humans, I invite you to fuck off."
This is not an argument. We are not all relative humans stuck in space. We have our own societies, political systems, and customs we adhere to and if you are not part of that society you should not be protesting. If I had a dispute in my family it is not for you to get involved as I'm sure would be the same case with you. That is the same on a macro scale.
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 If the dispute in your family is that your child is being starved or beaten then it damn sure is my business as well as society's business. If you're an even moderately intelligent person then you'll understand how it is analogous on an international scale.
inademv 2 months ago
@inademv A better analogy to that might be an ethnic cleansing campaign, rather than a general question of governance.
SSJ3Ulcer 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 haha, as if wars take place because a protester or two are arrested.
GloballyUnited4Edu 2 months ago
@GloballyUnited4Edu
Wars have been started over dumber things like soccer and killing one person or many for that matter.
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 Oh really?! what soccer match that triggered a war do you have in mind?
GloballyUnited4Edu 2 months ago
@GloballyUnited4Edu
Here you go. You'll have to complete the link yourself.
/wiki/Football_War
TheTruth006 2 months ago
@TheTruth006 So true besides they can be sent back home and banned from entering the country again (applies to ALL the country's in the world that I know of)
And so there goes all they're College/Uni money AND they're education.
Clanki 2 months ago
first bitchez
dsquaredmlg 2 months ago
@dsquaredmlg Congrats you son-of-a-bitch
lucyrbd509 2 months ago
@lucyrbd509 dsquarendmig is our son? I never knew we had a son!
tacojohn9 2 months ago
@tacojohn9 Oh, sorry you didn't get the memo. Don't ya remember? I'm a travesty and you're my man, honey bun! xoxoxo
lucyrbd509 2 months ago