Its very interesting to note that the German Chancellor Frau Angela Merkel is re-opening the sports school that produced all the great women sprinters like Marita Koch, Marlies Gohr, Heike Drechsler, Katrin Krabbe, Silke Moller. Germany will have great women stars again very soon
0 deaths have been scientifically linked to steroids. But every ass has assumed that every athlete death is directly linked with steroids. There has never been a scientific study that has directly linked steroids to causing death, some steroids cause high cholesterol, but so do big macs. Thousands of people die young every day, but if an athlete dies young, it must be steroids, real scientific morons.
There was no chance to prove Flo Jo was guilty. Her decrease in speed and early retirement indicate to me she was on drugs. Oh and her premature death. Her records should be scrapped from the record books, or at least an asterisk placed beside them.
i think flo jo was a combination of what steroids and extremley hard training can do, i loved this womens races whatever, flo jo r i p. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If Flo-Jo had produced these times season after season I think it would've been much more credible but to have them for a VERY short space of time & never again (as she immediately retired after the 1988 Seoul Olympics) suggests that she knew without the drugs she would've been exposed as a drugs cheat. We will never know the truth. Her records will stand for a very VERY long time but are they "real" drug free records? Hmmm
I think quite certainly her records will be there in 100 years time, if at all. Her 10.49 was heavilly wind aided and was allowed because the wind meter failed. To add to this, her perfect stride pattern and a super-human power supplied from a year of heavy steroid use just made for the fastest time a woman will ever run. There is NO WAY on earth she did not cheat.
i heard that she died if she did die then it had to be because of drugs a young women wouldnt just die like that her 10.49 in the 100m she was on drugs or there was a big tail wind
actually was good at sprinting reason why flo jo thrashed everyone is because most people cant maintain the speed the whole 100m she was that fit she could maintain her top speed the whole way also she was a marathon runner she had very good endurance where other runners dont thats where she run the race by maintaining her top speed the whole 100m the last 20m is where she pulled away because others couldnt maintain
its funny that she only had this rare ability for about a year isn't it? where was she in the 1987 Worlds? Silke Gladische of East Germany thrashed her.
Well obviously her ability to accelerate throughout the race was illusive without the help of drugs. Gladische also thrashed her because she was doped up to her hairy, manly armpits.
At the end of the day drugs are for mugs. As a parent I would rather my child trained "clean" & not artifically with performance enhancing drugs. Flo Jo was & still is a star too many (including myself) but her brilliance was all too sudden & then it was gone. There is no other way to describe how she got so fast so quickly in such a short space of time. We weill never know the truth if she did or not but all the factors indicate that she was on drugs for these super human times.
Come on! Go back and look at almost every one of Flo Jo's previous races prior to 1988, and you will see she's always consistently had a SLOW start, but continued to accelerate afterwards! She's come from behind and caught many tons of times, and the times she didn't catch them, you could see her coming on to them. So, let's stick with facts here and stop making things up. Did she dope? None of us know or can prove. But, do not change the facts evinced by video!!!
im scottish and yesterday a 35 year old footballer died of a heart attack while playing football,i personally knew a 39 year old neighbour and 41 year old man who both died of heart attacks, nothing to do with drugs, maybe flo at 38 isnt so suspicious, maybe she had just naturally pushed her body too far???
i did notice flo jo could have a husky low maybe man-ly voice at times, this race was one of my favourite childhood memories tho, rest in peace flo jo xxx
Luckily she is an american. If she is from Eastern Block Country, she will be suspected and caught of using drug. However, I believe she is not clean.
Flo Jo didn't run 10.7 or 8.5 for her relay leg, both times are so far from reality its untrue. Flo Jo's split-time for the 3rd leg was 9.82 and Ashford's anchor was 10.10, slowed by the poor pass between Flo Jo & Her
Its only yanks, planks, and dreamers that think flojo was clean. I personally dont grudge her olympic golds but i would have been more convinced with 10.88/21.88 sprint doubles. Another thing you allways got the impression with flojo she wasnt protected as well as she should have been.
She was running 10.5 - 10.6 clean as u believe . Surely with drugs she could get down to 10.3 to 10.4. Sounds a bit ridiculous doesn't it guys. Am I making my point or are u all still blind to the obvious??
Why would that be ridiculous. Once upon a time, it was condidered impossible for a wommen to run under 11 seconds. Look how many can acheve that now. And 10.5 isn't really that much of a big deal if you ask me. Runner's like Jones, Arron, Ottey & Ashford ain't too far behind. And if your gonna go down that guilty till proven innocent road, then everyone's a suspect.
Track star Marion Jones admits doping before 2000 Sydney Games
By The Associated Press
October 4, 2007
Marion Jones admitted using steroids before the 2000 Olympics in a recent letter to close family and friends, The Washington Post reported Thursday.
Jones, a triple gold medalist in Sydney, said she took "the clear" for two years, beginning in 1999, and that she got it from former coach Trevor Graham, the newspaper reported. Graham told her it was flaxseed oil.
Answer my question please folks. Don't avoid it. If She was clean in 88 as people say then what ridiculous times do you all believe her to be capable of if she took performance enhancing drugs on top of her great runs?
please, forget any bullshit about 8.5. just watch at her milling legs, as it were, from 50 on. she's a terminator, isn't she? please, then, do *not* say she's fantastic or the like...
i cant get over how fast her legs are moving when he crossed the finish line that i amazing, i have never seen that b4, men or wemen , she was flying. she was clocked in at 27.5 miles an hour thats fast.
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Flo Jo did not run an 8.5. That's bullshit. Flo Jo'S relay split time was a 10.7. And she didn't even run to well in the relay either. She took the third leg and handed over to Ashford in third place. Ahsford hard to chase hard to beat Russia and Germany to bag the Gold medal. And she took Germany just on the line.
What times could she have managed with performance enhancing drugs in 88 then Warmachine. If u believe her to be clean at the 88 Olympics what ridiculously fast times do believe her to be capable of with performance enhancing drugs aiding her.
I'm not gonna getting to a debate on whether she was clean or not. You have your views I have mine. I'm simply correcting a comment made earlier about her relay split. She ran a 10.7 not an 8.5 an 8.5. Her in the relay's. She ran a 10.7. She handed to stick to Ashford in 3rd place. Ashford only just nipped Germany on the line. I remember that race too well.
The evidence lies with the woman in lane 4 next to Flo Jo during the final, no woman is meant to run 10.54... the athlete in lane 5 was sticking with her, but physically she just snapped beyond her human capabilities at 70m. Flo Jo's records should be scrapped!!!
It is possible, she trained harder than any one else you can do anything if you set your mind to it.
You say evidence dont make me laugh the vidence came back when they tested her for drugs not once not twice over 34 times during the olympics so shut the fuck up everyone of dont fucking whatch, i hope any one who bags her out goes to fucking hell
i dont no what to believe she my second favorite runner behind wilma rudolph , flo has the stride and if you watch her in slow mo she has tej best form ever man or woman, i nly question how quick she improved and the fact that she retired soon after glory, i dont no she still one of the best ever rip flo.
WHat men can do women can do better and who isnt to say a woman cant run as fast as men, flo jo did, or are some people out there so full of themselves and think that men are all that.
Isn't that amazing that in the 20 years since Flo Jo ran 10.49 in the 100m Marion Jones fastest is about 5 metres slower 10.7, surely technique, diet etc would allow woman to run faster nowadays.....drug cheat, er, ah, I think so!!
Another thing she never used her entire speed during a race accept for the relay where she ran at 8.5 second 100m, she was giffted and all use can do is critersize id like to see use run a 100m, you would all be arrested for taken drugs for goin to slow!
It amazes me how people are so quick to label women of calibur hateful names such as this.,.have you no shame? the woman is deceased. And for the record, is she did cheat, she never got caught, therefore, it goes down in the books as her being "clean", so save it!
lachey, unfortunately she did take sterioids and unfortunately that's what killed her. Steroids enhance your strength and stamina. The strength is what helped her pull away so strong the way she did at the ends of races. Watch how she pulls away at the end. She is so beautiful, but steroids are what helped her win and what killed her.
Drug enhacing shit did not kill her, she died of a heart seziure. If she took drugs she would not died she had problems before she even enterd the olympics. If you watch every athlete that took drugs has a sloppy form and a sloppy performance Flo jo was already good and didnt need drugs to help her. She was one of the most tested women in the world for drugs even up until she died she took none. And who are you to comment you know nothing about this unlike my uncle who actully new her closely.
markadrain, r u so stupid if she took drugs it enhances the musell DUH, and her form wouldnt be that good and her speed would not have been that fast, if she took them it would have slowed her.
on myspace if you type in videos "flo jo" it will come up with her running the 4 by 400 m realy, im shocked that she kept up with the gld medalist never would i have thought to put her in a long distance run.
By far the most amazing athlete, i hope no women ever gets close to that, actully has everyone noticed earlier this year marion jones won 100m this year and her time wasnt even in the 10 second margen, the thletes are becoming slower, well there a girl at my school called Julia Nation and she is 18 and ran a time faster than Marion at our school athletics and we are australian so finally we may have a gold during next olympics.
SUPER ESTEROIDE-SUPER-DOPAJE
camberra1985 1 year ago
the girl next 2 her pulled a muscle she wud of gotten silver
FamousNina123 2 years ago
Tested many times, in hostile places too, never tested positive, NEVER can you all understand, she was the best ever,
Gerrysdream 2 years ago
i feel sorry for the girl who pulled up.
RelicHunter321 2 years ago 2
WOW INCREADIBLE SUUUUUPER BURST> RIP
skudlick 2 years ago
was that wind aided?
bluewhale18 2 years ago
@ bluewhale18
No, steroid aided.
HardyFranklin 2 years ago 2
That girl next to Flo Jo looked like she pulled something.
KTF0 2 years ago
DRUGGIE !
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
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The Queen of Steroids at her best here!
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
why u so obsessed with something that happened over 2 decades ago, if u didnt admire her
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aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
0 deaths have been scientifically linked to steroids. But every ass has assumed that every athlete death is directly linked with steroids. There has never been a scientific study that has directly linked steroids to causing death, some steroids cause high cholesterol, but so do big macs. Thousands of people die young every day, but if an athlete dies young, it must be steroids, real scientific morons.
MerkinMuffly 3 years ago
0.13, Lane 4 = LMAO
LaughAtChristians 3 years ago
she was on drugs and she paid for it in the end....... take heed athletes
winilisha 3 years ago
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What proof do you all have? none right, innocent until proven gulity is how i was raised
genron187 3 years ago
There was no chance to prove Flo Jo was guilty. Her decrease in speed and early retirement indicate to me she was on drugs. Oh and her premature death. Her records should be scrapped from the record books, or at least an asterisk placed beside them.
duddits2k7 3 years ago 2
i think flo jo was a combination of what steroids and extremley hard training can do, i loved this womens races whatever, flo jo r i p. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
TBTBTBTBTB1 3 years ago
If Flo-Jo had produced these times season after season I think it would've been much more credible but to have them for a VERY short space of time & never again (as she immediately retired after the 1988 Seoul Olympics) suggests that she knew without the drugs she would've been exposed as a drugs cheat. We will never know the truth. Her records will stand for a very VERY long time but are they "real" drug free records? Hmmm
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
I think quite certainly her records will be there in 100 years time, if at all. Her 10.49 was heavilly wind aided and was allowed because the wind meter failed. To add to this, her perfect stride pattern and a super-human power supplied from a year of heavy steroid use just made for the fastest time a woman will ever run. There is NO WAY on earth she did not cheat.
Aarontlondon 3 years ago
did she never run again after seoul,wasnt the olympics really laye that year?? i was young back then
TBTBTBTBTB1 3 years ago
no , she immediately retired after the 1988 Seoul Olympic games.
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
i heard that she died if she did die then it had to be because of drugs a young women wouldnt just die like that her 10.49 in the 100m she was on drugs or there was a big tail wind
ashezz14 4 years ago
if u look on the slow mo flo jo as the best running form no other person runs with such a nature form like her so up right knees high
n1ck822 4 years ago
actually was good at sprinting reason why flo jo thrashed everyone is because most people cant maintain the speed the whole 100m she was that fit she could maintain her top speed the whole way also she was a marathon runner she had very good endurance where other runners dont thats where she run the race by maintaining her top speed the whole 100m the last 20m is where she pulled away because others couldnt maintain
n1ck822 4 years ago
she had to be cheating with drugs,she ran faster than marion jones who was taking drugs! the testing was just shit in these days!
bm2g 4 years ago 4
u could dose anywoman to the eyeballs in drugs,and still they wouldnt get near flos records, look at marion jones for example
TBTBTBTBTB1 4 years ago
Flo Jo had a very rare ability to accelerate for every part of the race, if Marion Jones had as good a starts as Flo Jo, she may have come near.
Aarontlondon 4 years ago
its funny that she only had this rare ability for about a year isn't it? where was she in the 1987 Worlds? Silke Gladische of East Germany thrashed her.
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
Well obviously her ability to accelerate throughout the race was illusive without the help of drugs. Gladische also thrashed her because she was doped up to her hairy, manly armpits.
Aarontlondon 3 years ago
At the end of the day drugs are for mugs. As a parent I would rather my child trained "clean" & not artifically with performance enhancing drugs. Flo Jo was & still is a star too many (including myself) but her brilliance was all too sudden & then it was gone. There is no other way to describe how she got so fast so quickly in such a short space of time. We weill never know the truth if she did or not but all the factors indicate that she was on drugs for these super human times.
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
Come on! Go back and look at almost every one of Flo Jo's previous races prior to 1988, and you will see she's always consistently had a SLOW start, but continued to accelerate afterwards! She's come from behind and caught many tons of times, and the times she didn't catch them, you could see her coming on to them. So, let's stick with facts here and stop making things up. Did she dope? None of us know or can prove. But, do not change the facts evinced by video!!!
stevie586 3 years ago
she was definetly dopeing
son1gohan 4 years ago 3
im scottish and yesterday a 35 year old footballer died of a heart attack while playing football,i personally knew a 39 year old neighbour and 41 year old man who both died of heart attacks, nothing to do with drugs, maybe flo at 38 isnt so suspicious, maybe she had just naturally pushed her body too far???
TBTBTBTBTB1 4 years ago
Florence did not cheat. She had several drug tests and they were all clean
ponponandzizi 4 years ago
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course she did
woo738 4 years ago
i did notice flo jo could have a husky low maybe man-ly voice at times, this race was one of my favourite childhood memories tho, rest in peace flo jo xxx
TBTBTBTBTB1 4 years ago
yes flo jo was great , look at how fast her legs are moving at the last 80 meters to the finish line amazing.rip flo
2001COUPE 4 years ago
So I Guess Steroids Was Good For Gail Devers Too Cuz Her Nails Was Long As Hell...........
DBUTNER8 4 years ago
gail devers copied flo jo,alot of sprinters took it up to try and be like her, like alot of tennis stars have copied monica seles,
TBTBTBTBTB1 4 years ago
steroids are good for nail growth.
they can make you and they can break you
as flo jo found out.
nahim55 4 years ago
you people are so funny , just give credit when credits due.
2001COUPE 4 years ago
What for? She cheated.
jrussell73 4 years ago 3
Luckily she is an american. If she is from Eastern Block Country, she will be suspected and caught of using drug. However, I believe she is not clean.
aretold 4 years ago
Flo Jo didn't run 10.7 or 8.5 for her relay leg, both times are so far from reality its untrue. Flo Jo's split-time for the 3rd leg was 9.82 and Ashford's anchor was 10.10, slowed by the poor pass between Flo Jo & Her
bossofalltime 4 years ago
Agreed jeb. Only crack smokers would disagree.
jibjobjab 4 years ago
Jebjoncula 's spot on. No woman can run 10.3 or 10.4. Only the blind to the truth believe this.
Rettamann 4 years ago
Flo Jo didn't run a 10. 3 or 10.4. SHE RAN A 10.5.
DYNASTYO5 4 years ago
still, many amongst you pretend not to understand...
poppodue 4 years ago
Its only yanks, planks, and dreamers that think flojo was clean. I personally dont grudge her olympic golds but i would have been more convinced with 10.88/21.88 sprint doubles. Another thing you allways got the impression with flojo she wasnt protected as well as she should have been.
Dementedhighlander 4 years ago
She was running 10.5 - 10.6 clean as u believe . Surely with drugs she could get down to 10.3 to 10.4. Sounds a bit ridiculous doesn't it guys. Am I making my point or are u all still blind to the obvious??
jebjoncula 4 years ago
Why would that be ridiculous. Once upon a time, it was condidered impossible for a wommen to run under 11 seconds. Look how many can acheve that now. And 10.5 isn't really that much of a big deal if you ask me. Runner's like Jones, Arron, Ottey & Ashford ain't too far behind. And if your gonna go down that guilty till proven innocent road, then everyone's a suspect.
Speculation is just what it is SPECULATION!
Branded1978 4 years ago
Track star Marion Jones admits doping before 2000 Sydney Games
By The Associated Press
October 4, 2007
Marion Jones admitted using steroids before the 2000 Olympics in a recent letter to close family and friends, The Washington Post reported Thursday.
Jones, a triple gold medalist in Sydney, said she took "the clear" for two years, beginning in 1999, and that she got it from former coach Trevor Graham, the newspaper reported. Graham told her it was flaxseed oil.
Dancenmachine81 4 years ago
Flo jo did run 8.5 it is not bullshit if any of use pay any attention to whats going you would have a fucking clue now wouldnt u all.
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
Answer my question please folks. Don't avoid it. If She was clean in 88 as people say then what ridiculous times do you all believe her to be capable of if she took performance enhancing drugs on top of her great runs?
jebjoncula 4 years ago 2
please, forget any bullshit about 8.5. just watch at her milling legs, as it were, from 50 on. she's a terminator, isn't she? please, then, do *not* say she's fantastic or the like...
poppodue 4 years ago
i cant get over how fast her legs are moving when he crossed the finish line that i amazing, i have never seen that b4, men or wemen , she was flying. she was clocked in at 27.5 miles an hour thats fast.
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koRnandmcr 4 years ago
if anyone has the womens 4x100 from the same olypic games, please post it...that is the best race ever and i would love to see it again
jderoest 4 years ago
Yea it is cause Flo jo ran hers in 8.5, faster than a man
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
Faster than a man!!! And still u don't get a little suspicious. Faster than a man . FFS. That's just not how God made us.
jebjoncula 4 years ago
Flo Jo did not run an 8.5. That's bullshit. Flo Jo'S relay split time was a 10.7. And she didn't even run to well in the relay either. She took the third leg and handed over to Ashford in third place. Ahsford hard to chase hard to beat Russia and Germany to bag the Gold medal. And she took Germany just on the line.
Warmachine300 4 years ago
What times could she have managed with performance enhancing drugs in 88 then Warmachine. If u believe her to be clean at the 88 Olympics what ridiculously fast times do believe her to be capable of with performance enhancing drugs aiding her.
jebjoncula 4 years ago
I'm not gonna getting to a debate on whether she was clean or not. You have your views I have mine. I'm simply correcting a comment made earlier about her relay split. She ran a 10.7 not an 8.5 an 8.5. Her in the relay's. She ran a 10.7. She handed to stick to Ashford in 3rd place. Ashford only just nipped Germany on the line. I remember that race too well.
Warmachine300 4 years ago
Well she tried out for the Atlants olypics in 1996, she was going to do the heptathlon but pulled a muscle badley which she coultnt compete anymore
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
her stride is the best , i wonder if she had lived would she have trained her daughter to be as great as she was?
2001COUPE 4 years ago
The evidence lies with the woman in lane 4 next to Flo Jo during the final, no woman is meant to run 10.54... the athlete in lane 5 was sticking with her, but physically she just snapped beyond her human capabilities at 70m. Flo Jo's records should be scrapped!!!
charlie1004 4 years ago
It is possible, she trained harder than any one else you can do anything if you set your mind to it.
You say evidence dont make me laugh the vidence came back when they tested her for drugs not once not twice over 34 times during the olympics so shut the fuck up everyone of dont fucking whatch, i hope any one who bags her out goes to fucking hell
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
i dont no what to believe she my second favorite runner behind wilma rudolph , flo has the stride and if you watch her in slow mo she has tej best form ever man or woman, i nly question how quick she improved and the fact that she retired soon after glory, i dont no she still one of the best ever rip flo.
2001COUPE 4 years ago
Then FloJo retired two months after they started mandatory random drug testing. Hmmmm interesting.
will0505 4 years ago
YOU GUYS AE SO FUNNY
2001COUPE 4 years ago
IS IS TH?I CAN TOPOF THIER GAME.
2001COUPE 4 years ago
The drug queen at her best!!
will0505 4 years ago
WHat men can do women can do better and who isnt to say a woman cant run as fast as men, flo jo did, or are some people out there so full of themselves and think that men are all that.
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
Isn't that amazing that in the 20 years since Flo Jo ran 10.49 in the 100m Marion Jones fastest is about 5 metres slower 10.7, surely technique, diet etc would allow woman to run faster nowadays.....drug cheat, er, ah, I think so!!
Tuxy69 4 years ago
Another thing she never used her entire speed during a race accept for the relay where she ran at 8.5 second 100m, she was giffted and all use can do is critersize id like to see use run a 100m, you would all be arrested for taken drugs for goin to slow!
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
cheating slut!
jiggy911911 5 years ago
It amazes me how people are so quick to label women of calibur hateful names such as this.,.have you no shame? the woman is deceased. And for the record, is she did cheat, she never got caught, therefore, it goes down in the books as her being "clean", so save it!
NJNupe1911 4 years ago
shut up will ya?
jiggy911911 4 years ago
she's hot in that suit though, lol
sgbtexan 5 years ago
lachey, unfortunately she did take sterioids and unfortunately that's what killed her. Steroids enhance your strength and stamina. The strength is what helped her pull away so strong the way she did at the ends of races. Watch how she pulls away at the end. She is so beautiful, but steroids are what helped her win and what killed her.
sgbtexan 5 years ago
Drug enhacing shit did not kill her, she died of a heart seziure. If she took drugs she would not died she had problems before she even enterd the olympics. If you watch every athlete that took drugs has a sloppy form and a sloppy performance Flo jo was already good and didnt need drugs to help her. She was one of the most tested women in the world for drugs even up until she died she took none. And who are you to comment you know nothing about this unlike my uncle who actully new her closely.
lacheyrulez 4 years ago
markadrain, r u so stupid if she took drugs it enhances the musell DUH, and her form wouldnt be that good and her speed would not have been that fast, if she took them it would have slowed her.
Get ya frieken facts right
lacheyrulez 5 years ago
That woman was so on enhancement drugs and got away with it!
markadrian28 5 years ago
What a runner!!!
janet928 5 years ago
on myspace if you type in videos "flo jo" it will come up with her running the 4 by 400 m realy, im shocked that she kept up with the gld medalist never would i have thought to put her in a long distance run.
lacheyrulez 5 years ago
flo joes form was just beter then everybody else... she doesnt reall have the build of marion jones and white when they tested positive
lhwood777 5 years ago
By far the most amazing athlete, i hope no women ever gets close to that, actully has everyone noticed earlier this year marion jones won 100m this year and her time wasnt even in the 10 second margen, the thletes are becoming slower, well there a girl at my school called Julia Nation and she is 18 and ran a time faster than Marion at our school athletics and we are australian so finally we may have a gold during next olympics.
lacheyrulez 5 years ago
hand timing?
mc1703 5 years ago
I'll have 2 of whatever she was on !!!!
neiler123 5 years ago
OWNED!!
jaiitooshy 5 years ago
Damn!! Get me the number of her chemist!
Davross 5 years ago
Wow, RIP Flo-Jo
danielinho1942 5 years ago