Legality vs The Ethics Of Sharing MP3's And Files Part One

[bigbossg13]

thnk you captain obvious!!!

[DavenH]

As an aside - the discussion of the quality of the physical CDs (Fuji vs Memorex etc) has no bearing on the quality of the audio it holds. CD audio is a digital format. The only difference in quality measurable would be the longevity of the disc, scratch resistance and so on.

[esmithled]

I love stealing music, but this guy is just wrong. Man up and admit that your screwing people over, just like the rest of us

[Azlaier]

It's NOT ethical to steal. If you work hard on creating music, and then have people stealing it online, you're going to be pissed off. The record companies and corporations have a right to be pissed off.

[User123788]

When you refer to greedy multi-million dollar corporations who don't need any more money...are you aware that record labels aren't making any money...?

[marshallruddock]

You'd ask Joe Blow for some coke.

[MrSomecrackhead]

To try and say it is unethical to download what they are already being way over paid for is just complete stupidity. You don't have to pay for every seperate show you watch on television, they've made their money from ads for ever now, it's what is happening on the internet now too. But since most people are so easily manipulated they will keep charging you any way they can on top of that. And people actually try say its unethical. Straight up fucking retards is what they are obviously.

[Azlaier]

@MrSomecrackhead Um, no. If you create and own a television show, it would piss you off too if people started downloading it for free, cheating you out of your hard-earned money. Whether the company already makes a lot of money on it or not has nothing to do with the ethics behind charging for it. You're justifying theft. There's no excuse for theft.

[MrSomecrackhead]

For all of you who arn't to into how the internet and stuff works now, Artists are paid by advertisements such as the ones you see on the vevo videos, these ads directly give them/ their manager so much money per view. Do you wonder why 10 songs are being released from a single fucking album now-a-days? Because each song makes it's own money, it isn't even by per c.d. And as you can all see they are still having no troubles making a living off of it. cont..

[wouterW24]

I wouldn't pirate new things. However, what I do have trouble with, is that copyright lasts so incredibly long, especially with the drastic rights this gives a owner of copyright. Sure, they have to make a profit, this is logical( although I have been suggested a open-source donation model that browers like firefox use may be more ethical and logical in the long run). However, especially in light of the free digital sharing, how is it justified that a company can restrain information for-

[wouterW24]

@wouterW24 90 years? Especially with video games this is jarring, in which the rights are still being controlled for some future re-release to make even more money, while you can't buy a game for years? I rather have thing becoming open and free to share after necessarily profit has been dealt with. The current long term is in favor of those who make tons of money already.

[ItsTurningGreen002]

I agree with this, however, I think it is slightly unfair with pirating and such to the people creating the material.

[dareujoe]

greg solomon has the best videos

[charliehuka]

love greg

[bunts33]

1:48 CHERRY BOMB

[ssTEM89]

...address comes from the middle of the Pacific ocean. I have the freedom of information and everyone else should too. Please pass this information on to a friend.

[ssTEM89]

I've gotten letters in the mail regarding newer movies, but there's a simple way around it, it's called "PeerBlock" and it denies the corporations trying to obtain your IP address of any information about u. The best part about it is that it's a free program. If you wanna be really sneaky, (probably not necessary), you can search google for anonymous web surfing and you will find a website that will take you to your favorite torrent site and torrent link and tell that website that ur IP...

[ssTEM89]

That's great, until u said it, i was starting to think that you hadn't heard of bittorrents. Bittorrents are the greatest internet resource available. If it's digital or electronic, u can get it in a torrent. Also, some sites, however, claim that they are completely anonymous, this is generally a lie. From the moment u start a download of a torrent link, corporations detect ur IP addre

ss (this tells them exactly who u are and where u live).

[KingOfSage]

I would have to say, even though I like being able to download songs freely, it should all cost to get it. You are depriving authors and publishers of money they worked for. However, I like the YouTube alternative. You can go to Youtube and watch your music videos freely, at the expense of paying for internet and the fact you might not find it. But other sites where you download for free I disagree with, even though I use them myself :P

[HelloImGregSolomon]

Hello. I'm Greg Solomon.

[pumpkinman321]

I would argue that file sharing, though not as bad as stealing a physical CD, is still bad. If you download a song, you won't have to buy that song, so you're taking the potential revenue from that sale away from the creators and owners of that song. Stealing a CD does the same thing, with the addition that it also removes the possibility for someone else to buy that CD, as Greg mentioned. This seems like a retaliation at Maxell for ripping him off rather then a true opinion on file sharing.

[killzonekizza]

@Chthon128 U mad?

[jagjaghuh]

Idiot

[ToxicLabProductions]

I concur

[zyxorservers]

ooh, good that there is some videos that makes a meaning... like this one;) very good!

[Tom3744]

hey solomon is using soundbyte for a youtube video a copyright infrigement?I got these soundbyte from the massive download time to get into a game server.

[Dredgy7]

I lol'd

[psychobolia]

GigaTribe is better than all of them since you're only sharing with close friends, hence, no illegal downloading. You can let friends download directly from your harddrive, and all exchanges are encrypted...great way to exchange entire folders of files with your friends.

[WhiteTiger08]

Why cant I have a song made by a chinese band right in this momment?Or to a 1986 live song by a famous band that isnt available anymore?If a song is really good,I would get a cd..something physic that connects me to it..if it isnt,should the artist receive $ for a shitty song?( 90%of the music everyone downloads is like:"wow, this hit by * is quite nice..let me download some of their songs to see if they're really good"and probably they'll be deleting those songs..and kept the"Hit song"

[WhiteTiger08]

I've a similar opinion...4 me every piece of art should be free..u don't pay to look at Miguel Angelo's "David", u dont pay to look at Mona Lisa(what you pay-or should pay-is the preservation work),u dont even pay to look at Eiffel Tower,the Big Ben..u dont pay copyrights to God when u look/hear nature..are musicians different from painters or architects?The music industry should realize the great impulse internet gave them..many artist were nothing today if their music wasnt spread by the web..

[someone1771]

Share Share Share. Charging for music is unethical.

As long as people arent making money from someone else's work, (like the RIAA do...), its ok.

[ezrakudo]

rolling stones-some girls...great album1 I miss you is a killer track

[PosterKnutbag]

well put. but think about the software, do you really think that the value in, say, the windows program, is the plastic and reflective parts inside the cardboard rectacular cube that is way to big for acouple of CD's, is the plastic what you are paying for? no, you want the information, and the program, they arent selling you a piece of plastic, which you are so kindly letting them hang onto, they are selling the content.

[shrouded60606]

secont

[samtheman467]

These are the type of videos that makes you great Mr. Soloman

[proent]

sharing is caring

[cola19]

Isn't it Joe Bloggs?

[FreeknNasty]

No matter how it is put, it is still stealing. You are downloading a sellable commodity. The internet has made copying these commodities far more widespread.

The realities are, all orginizations involved are being deprived of income. That is totally inarguable. You have taken a copy of something you would otherwise have had to pay for. That is depriving everyone down the line of profit.

[BreakToTheBasic]

When you go surfing with inet-explorer then you automatic download graphics or something else in kind of datapackages, wich maybe is under copywrite too...it´s the same like dl other datapackage like software or music. No one look at your internet temp-folder and look what you had download wich is under copywrite.

[travelsonic]

You are trying to pass off opinion as fact, using flawed, IMO at least, logic. Simply downloading a sellable commodity? That is pretty broad criteria in of itself. Sellable commodities are downloaded after legally purchased all the time. People often put up their works - very well sellable - for free by their choice. If you want to take this position, that is certainly fine, but the criteria can't be too broad, or else people can and will easily find holes in the argument.

[IsaacDermin]

lol this was posted 2 years ago,and ur still watching it,and its only gotten 7k veiws

[roysensei]

so what, he can watch whatever the fuck he wants. This video is still posted on youtube, anyone can view it, and he should be able to express his opinion.

[redstar941]

this guy looks like Lenin..hehe, i like him

[Qdos]

Hey Greg,

I've been following your vlogs on here a while now and I just took a look at your early ones such as this one. Why don't you get back to doing this kind of thing? I'd subscribe to you then.

Greg Chill out and make a positive contribution to the community like you have done here. This is great stuff.

[jmw2147]

you are so much more low-key and "real" in these older videos. i like this style better

[rader55555]

Now we need systems in place to support the artists and studios and those that support them, but it's quite clear that with the amount of information out there--software, music, movies--that can enhance your quality of life, we need to err on the side of benefiting the common good rather than millionaire musicians.

[rader55555]

We do need to support them, encourage them, pay them to make use of their talents, to produce music. So we implement a copyright law, a necessary evil to benefit the creator and the public good. Now, however, copyright has been hijacked. The industry has lobbied to increase ever-greater profit margins. Digital content is the first technological durable, non-rival good and since those who control wish to retain their giant profit margins, they implement "artificial scarcity" via DRM and the like.

[rader55555]

This intellectual property is NOT theirs. I whole-heartedly deny the ownership of intellectual property. This is where we get the sophomoric "You're taking something that's not yours" argument. Why do music artist deserve their content? Do they deserve their talents? Of course not. Why would they? They have been extremely lucky--their voice, their work ethic, their parents--I really should of chosen a better voice (my fault I guess). The artists were lucky--that's it.

[WELLBRAN]

Johnny Winter....yu are one cool due!

[traveler905]

Good evening Mr. Solomon,

I have always used my purchased collection of music to enhance the viewing experience of my home made movies. Is it illegal to use my purchased music collection in my home movies? and Is it illegal to upload these home videos which include purchased music selections for sharing on youtube?

[OmgWtfBBqROfl]

WTF die bitch

[milkfedjew]

(cont. from last post)

Whether or not you feel they are right to deny you these files is irrelevant; the property is theirs, and it is for them, not you, to determine the rules for its distribution.

[milkfedjew]

Mr. Solomon, as a great admirer of your work on YouTube, it saddens me to see you contradict yourself so flagrantly. In your video on honesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?­v=6pPx2b5mxLk) you purport to be an ethical absolutist, stating that situational ethics inevitably leads one off the path of righteousness (not in the religious sense, of course). But your defense of illegally downloading MP3s is founded on situational ethics!

[milkfedjew]

(cont. from last post)

Merriam-Webster defines stealing as taking the property of another wrongfully. I think we can all agree that music is the property of the artists and their affiliated record companies. As such, it is for them to say what constitutes wrongful use of their property. To argue as you do, Mr. Solomon, that downloading MP3s is a victimless crime is the definition of situational ethics. You are wrongfully taking possession of another's property without their permission.

[aphexmandelbrot]

Please tell me that you are simply trolling for comments with this, as your interpretation of "property" and "taking possession" are somewhat askew in the sense of the internet.

[milkfedjew]

well, i am just trolling for comments, and i phrased it rather pompously to provoke ol' solomon, but i do believe what i wrote. i think someone deserves payment when someone else makes use of their intellectual property, whether it's a patent or a song.

[aphexmandelbrot]

Right on. At least' you're honest about the initial intent. I'll bite, and in a very non-sardonic way: how would this apply to cases of... say, a mix tape for a friend, "mash-ups" (songs of different genres mixed into one another in a (hopefully) seamless fashion), playing Unchained Melody as the first dance song at a wedding - should ASCAP get money for those circumstances?

[aphexmandelbrot]

(continued)

None involve personal profit - but even in the case of a cover band, ASCAP is still within boundaries asking for royalities due to use of the words and chord progressions (even if you go all wild and use drop-D)... I'm actually not going for a troll, or even an escalation - I'm just wondering what your feelings are on that. You can send a PM as opposed to a comment, if you'd like.

[RoJRUK]

Can't Wait For PT2

[volkswagen128]

Speaking of unethical but legal things, stating that a vehicle is a 2007 model when that is virtually impossible is also unethical. And we can find many other examples.

[chedsorr]

there all greedy bastards, if i cant afford a cd i wont buy it, so ill download it but im not gonna buy it either way so there not looseing any money

[SonicTsunami]

To put it succinctly Mr. Solomon, and with no bloviating, what you are "articulating" is moral relativism, made popular by modern and post-modern philosophers (chiefly Hegel).

[volkswagen128]

"it always comes down to money" so true.

[evilutionism2]

the same thing happend to me also...........

[nobody1357]

Let me start by saying I'm quite quilty of using such shared files myself. But, no, it's still unethical. Your examples about legal but unethical things don't justify benefiting from someone else's creation without their permission and against their will. Now, if I had creations I would make them public domain, but not everyone will and you have to respect that. Just my opinion.

[travelsonic]

"...But, no, it's still unethical. "

A broad brush thou paint.

I don't think you can claim the technology use overall unethical, since their are many legitimate uses; companies distributing some form of their work over P2P for example.

[evilutionism2]

zen archer is in the house again....hide your dogs or he will jack off on them

[macked]

http://www.ubuntu.com/ this website has the same view as me about software, that it should be free.

[buellja]

You could not be more right..

Ethics are completely subjective, and ethics really only come into play if you allow them to. In terms of business, they have no regard for ethics, just for money.

[RavenPoes]

The Facts about ETHICS & Copyright.. Not OPINION!

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publ­ications/iie/v8n3/faqs.html

[travelsonic]

The title there seems fallacy laced, as ethics by nature on a topic are not one concrete entity, but rather differ from person to person, from one degree to another.

[buellja]

You make a very valid point that groups such as the RIAA are not at all concerned with ethics.

Rather, they are concerned about the potential loss of revenue. I think the reason it wasn't a big deal in the 80s and early 90s was that such groups didn't see it as a threat. Now, with the help of the internet, they see the potential for mass-distribution, and the loss of tons of revenue.

Ethics has not ever, and likely will not ever have anything at all to do with it.

[thedakkster]

This is exactly what it says in the Upload section, page 2:

"Max file size: 100 MB. Max length: 10 minutes."

ungowa is unfortunately wrong.

[buellja]

Has anyone tried uploading say an 11 minute clip?

Perhaps the 100MB or 10 minutes is assuming that the average 10 minute clip equates to 100 MB. just curious.

[goofyvidz]

How long can my video be? Most videos on YouTube are under five minutes long. There is no specific length limit, but longer videos require more compression to fit in the 100MB size limit, and the quality will go down as the length of the video goes up.

Sorce: http://www.youtube.com/t/help_­makevideo

[ungowa]

Hey there is no time limit only a size limit 100mb.

[lynchman5555]

@ungowa u dont usually c a four year old comment, so i commented