America meet your new owners -The Kochs. This anti-labor belief stems directly from the Koch familial ties in Nazi Germany. Erich Koch was a high ranking Nazi official in the Ukraine, who, in addition to having control of the Gestapo and the police, worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labor Deployment, to provide the Reich with forced labor. Erich Koch faced charges of war crimes for the extermination of 400,000 Poles.
What is wrong with Walker? why should crappy teachers with tenure keep their jobs while good young teachers lose them? and why should the state or nat'l gov pay for 90% of a teachers retirement? Farmers work hard everyday and barely get by. No one helps them. You anti-walker protesters are selfish. stop thinking about yourself and scaring the public into believing your skewed views. Most americans pay for their own benefits and its about time you do too!
He uses words like "tools" and "options" so he doesn't have to actually tell you what he did. He misled the citizens fo Wisconsin by talking about benefits without ever mentioning the lower salaries.
He misled people into blaming teachers for what Wall Street did. Wall Street crashed the economy which greatly lowered revenue for state budgets when the people losing their jobs stopped paying income taxes.
Here's what's wrong with this: SHE'S NOT A TEACHER! She's a board member from a wealthy school district.
And she says that the money saved can now be used where it belongs - in the classroom. Uh...what?!?! Not unless you mean by giving fat contracts to your construction buddies.
Scott Walker's saving Union Jobs, protecting our seniors and resident poor, restoring Medicaid by adding 1.2 billion dollars into its budget, protecting families by making it possible to defend against home invaders, protecting the weak by ensuring they have the right to carry a firearm and defend themselves on the streets, restoring fiscal integrity in government and taking the power out of Madison and putting it into the local governments of Wisconsin.
Jmarsfan28: do you know anything about thing ? i think not . people who voted for walker still haven't seen the snow job he's done on them and everyone else in wisconsin. he didn't know what he was doing when he headed milwaukee county, and look at the matter he left there. and he doesn't know what he's doing as govorner, ! and i can't wait to see mess he'll leave for us when he's done scerwing everyone.
this is correct and more will close in the future, or the school districts will privitize some, which means less money going to them, and more local taxes you will have to pay. thats not to mention winter is here how much money is being cut from you county road crews whos going to plow you out if these workers are not being payed?? most county workers are directly effected by this also. I think this is deeper water than the average wisconsinite thinks.
how many schools have had to close since the bill has passed. how bout we make the big corparations pay for more of there health care benifits. Education and Emergency service is the last place you take tax more and make pay more the ABSOLUTE LAST PLACE!!!!
i see you dont support his budget plan cause of what he did to balance our budget but what do you think about iron Ore mining in Wisconsin. I think its about time. Minnesota has the iron range and they utilize it and i believe Michigan does to so the east of us does it and the North of us do it and it turns out we got it to.
@Jmarsfan28 If it can be done safely, the mining would be fine. However, the Republicans don't seem to think it can be done safely (even thought they claim otherwise). If they did, they wouldn't need to cancel the environmental protections.
@Jmarsfan28 I forgot to mention that the schools will be hurt much more next year, when the second round of cuts hits, and the federal stimulus funds are gone. They are going to be in a world of hurt.
Years ago, the school boards followed the state's example with a way to save taxes. Instead of giving pay raises, they raised benefit contributions. Now Walker has forced them to renege on this arrangement, by taking making the teachers pay a second time for the same benefits.
If he had given them their pay raises back, it would have been fair. But he used that money to balance the budget, instead. That is wrong.
@ge556 I am not aware of him hurting our schools. if he did hurt them wouldn't they raise there school taxes? Ido agree that he did do something that if i was a teacher would not be that happy with (not i am not defended the ones that skipped work) but it was not that bad. paying for your own pensions and paying at least 12.6% of the average cost of annual premiums also is not bad. I pay over 20%
@Jmarsfan28 He made a big funding cut to schools, and made it harder for them to compensate by raising taxes. They can still do so, by referendum, but this shifts a major burden from state income taxes to local property taxes, which is a major hardship for some districts and many individuals, so a referendum might fail.
@Jmarsfan28 The teachers were already paying for those benefits. Years ago, the state and the school districts chose to save employer taxes by withholding annual pay raises, and gave benefits instead. Now Walker has taken those away,. If he had given the pay raises back, it would have been fair, Instead, he took that money to balance the budget, and now the teachers have to pay for their benefits a second time. I think that is despicable.
@ge556 No they shouldnt get a pay raise.Life doesnt work that way. just cause my health care cost was raised doesnt mean i demand i get more money. They pay 12.6% of there health care. the other people in state pay 20 to 50% of health care. I think they can deal with it. So are you saying he should of done what Illinois did cause i would think then public worker would have a right to be pissed
@Jmarsfan28 You seem to have missed what I wrote: "The teachers were already paying for those benefits." The second sentence explained it very briefly.
@Jmarsfan28 Once again: The teachers were already paying for those benefits. Years ago, the state and the school districts chose to save employer taxes by withholding annual pay raises, and gave benefits instead. Now Walker has taken those away. If he had given the pay raises back, it would have been fair. Instead, he took that money to balance the budget, and now the teachers have to pay for their benefits a second time. I think that is despicable.
@ge556 you need you social security number or a visa to get that. i know a lot of things about wisconsin and about business how i know that all of you recall walker people think only about yourself and not wisconsin which is a balanced budget
@MrDuramax57 said, "i feel like your ignorant and trying to fight something that you know is true"
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I don't know which comment this refers to, but it would appear that you don't know what "ignorant" means, if you are calling me ignorant and saying that I, in fact, know the truth, but choose to deny it.
@ge556 so you telling me that those dead people fake signatures wont count and those teenage girls wont count and the people who sign many times wont count and well actually with soooo many violations if the people monitoring this were legit then they shouldnt even be able to recall them
@Jmarsfan28 "Those teenaged girls" were apparently of age, and if so, they should count.
I don't know what dead people you are talking about. Do you mean the ones that some Republican made up?
People are allowed to sign more than once, so they need to be counted only once. Some people are inclined to sign twice because some Walker supporters claimed that they would collect signatures and destroy them, which makes it hard to know that your signature will be counted, doesn't it?
@ge556 you really do the best you can in turing the illegal stuff into legal stuff. and you do a lot of attempting to turn it back around. Now about those kids or maybe not kids. if they were kids the recallers broke 4 laws in the mean time of those signatures. 1. Occupying a entrance ramp is illegal. 2offering anything exchange for a signature is illegal 3. Giving Cigarettes to a minor is illegal 4 taking minors signatures is illegal. Even if they were not minors they broke Laws
@Jmarsfan28 Nice. You make stuff up, and then blame 40% of liberals.
There are a few bad apples on both sides. I had a wacko call the cops on me for circulating petitions the other day. He claimed I was trying to steal his identity.
@Jmarsfan28 There are a very few people on both sides who are acting inappropriately. They need to return to civility.
The real problem, however, is the attacks on our schools, our public servants, our environmental protections, our consumer protections, our voting rights, and our values.
@ge556 Both sides??lol okay. Now what voting rights are being taking away. Making someone show and ID is not a rights issue. actually what attacks on any of the things you listed. O and is it lagging when you type cause it is for me ever since they updated it
@Jmarsfan28 Some people don't have the required ID, and have to take off time from work to get one. Worst case: some people can't get one, because the don't have a certified birth certificate, and can't get one without an ID, depending where they were born. Others just won't do it, because it's too much time and effort, plus money for a birth certificate in some cases, so they won't be able to vote.
Lagging when you type sounds like a browser issue, i.e., on your computer.
@ge556 thanks for the help. nice to add opinion.do you know that by his health care thing where they dont have to use union made health care and making teachers pay 12% of health care and a little for retirement that it saves districts alot of money?/
@Jmarsfan28 The WEA Trust Insurance does not apply to Madison, where I live. The Republicans tend to lie about it, saying the union profits from it, which is not true.
Some districts left WEA Trust and got less coverage elsewhere. Some got better deals with WEA Trust.
To read more about Republican lies, Google: The School District of Marshfield chose the WEA Trust’s group health insurance coverage because of the Trust’s competitive pricing,and unparalleled products and services
@ge556 No not all use wea trust crap but have republicans lied about that? No, they never said that all use it. The ones that do that are switching are saving tons of money. Menomonee Falls, Kaukauna, Hudson, Pewaukee,Neenah and more
@Jmarsfan28 About taking money from teachers to save money: That's a very shortsighted approach. Many of the most experienced teachers have just retired, which also saved some money, but at a loss to the quality of education. With the reduction in take-home pay, fewer people will become teachers, and fewer teachers will move to Wisconsin, which will further degrade our schools. That's why we have to get rid of Walker and the Republican extremists.
@ge556 Yeah saved money cause there salary is based on senority which is bs. Should and will be on performance. Well actually not really save money cause dont taxpayers now have to pay even more for them because they retired?
here is a article that i found. I dont take there word without looking into it myself but here is example of teachers not getting fired or cut on pay but actually getting a raise. maybe small but it is still good. And no raised Taxes for this either
Someone can't count...in her district there are fifteen elementary schools, four middle schools, three high school and five charter schools. Do the math. And in her other ad about how wonderful this POS is, the commercial about how Il raised taxes %66, here is the article on that, in case some of you supporters refuse to educate yourselves;
Oh Youtube has gotten so dumb omg. I can't post the website, do a search for Il tax increase, the article is from Jan of this year, stating the percentage taxes were increased, which isn't much at all....but when you use a number like %66, it sounds worse then what it is. If Walker wouldn't have taken ALL their bargaining rights away accept for raises, which will not be more then the cost of living, it wouldn't be this bad, or if he wouldn't have knowingly busted the union. He dug his own grave.
Definitely her *own* opinion. She was asked to clarify that by Board. I can't say what, specifically, is happening in Waukesha. I *can* say both Walker and Kasich have significantly cut funds to education. I don't think that's a way forward for either state.
Walker! Walker! hes are man! he cant do it? NO ONE CAN! Keep doin what you do Scott! Theres just some people in this state that just want it all and make are state more UNprogressing.. they need eyes.
@kfoelker alot of idiots who only believe what there lil liberal sites say and well if it is on the internet it must be true right? well they believe that
@ge556 i looked it up myself i dont only listen to the polititian. if i did i would be and obama voter cause he lies all the time. and yet you still make up facts. its hilarious
Teachers have had their salaries limited for about 20 years in Wisconsin. Now they just took a big cut in take-home pay, because Walker thinks it's better for a few to take a big hit than to share the burden fairly across the state, with a tiny tax increase.
And even with the cuts to teachers' pay, teachers are getting laid off,classes are being cut, and class sizes are increasing. There will be a bigger hit next year when the federal stimulus funds are gone.
@ge556 Big Hit my ass. the only districts that are laying off teachers are the one who are not using his tools that he gave. I can guarantee that any school districts with many layoff did there contract with the unions before this was all done and passed. what is not fair is a greedy union claiming that they support teachers making there own health insurance company make rates WAY higher than the private sector then FORCING schools to use it. WALKER fixed that too by the way
Teachers and other government employees had already involuntarily traded salary for benefits. It was unfair of Walker to take that away without giving their salary back.
yeah you people say higher taxes but then when it goes to you actually paying them then you all of a sudden dont want them. for example look at the teachers than skipped work (funny how they never got punished) and protested cause they had to pay for there retirement and a lil more of health care.....
@Jmarsfan28 So you think it's reasonable for public employees to take the full cost, but not to spread it around so that everyone pays a tiny tax increase? That's just not fair.
@ge556 no whats not fair is Africa. He saved there jobs and they still want to recall him. In your persceptive not fair would be like Illinois where they had same problems but had different approach. what happaned was many public employees lost there jobs and raised taxes and it still didnt solve anything. where in wisconsin is solved our budget...
There is no "working together" coming from Walker. He is damaging our schools, which will damage our future. Schools survived this year through taking from teachers, and from the federal stimulus funds. Next year there will be more budget cuts, and the stimulus funds will be gone. Our schools are going to be in a world of hurt.
But really, why live in Wisconsin? You're really asking for your money to be managed by some total dipshit like this. Best of luck. Move to a real state.
Several schools in my area closed, and teachers lost jobs due to the budget cuts. They also wanted to raise property taxes to help fund the schools that are still open. If the property taxes aren't increased, they may have to lay off more teachers. The burden was moved from the state level to the local level but we still pay the price. Walker plan has done nothing for education, but he has increased the unemployment percentage.
She's been on the Waukesha school board for a whopping 7 months, which makes her a novice, not the voice of reason or experience regarding school budgets. She has a lot of learning to do before she understands school finance and funding, and all the damage that Walker is doing to education in our state. The ripple effect of Walker's bill will be felt for years to come. Walker doesn't interview the experienced school board members in our state because we know the decimation he's responsible for.
What you wingnut effs don't understand is whacking wprling people's incomes to extend tax breaks to huge corporations amounts to yet another a transfer of wealth from working people to, yes, I'll use the term, the 1%. This shit has been going on for 30 years now and look at the mess this country is in. Coincidence? I think not, It's all according to extremist right wingers desire to return us to the robber baron era of 120 years ago. Karl Rove's Hero is Mark Hanna. Look it up.
@Dave925 Yes, the reason why our state is bankrupt is because we don't have enough revenue. We expect the rich to pay for the pampered unions yet, why do they have to? You clearly don't understand the facts. We're spending way more then we take in. The answer is not to take in more, but to spend less. You're a moron.
@yandirtty21 And you didn't address the FACT that Walker extended grotesque tax cuts for his corporate sponsors which put your budget in deficit. Who's the moron now asshat?
@Dave925 still you ass hat what ever that means. That helps get JOBS you know for the people who pay all the Government salaries and teachers free stuff and all the unemployed people that use government money and paying all the property taxes, income.....
@Jmarsfan28 I see. So you need to rob Peter to pay Paul in some bizarre race to the bottom in pay and benefits? I suppose the tax cuts had nothing to do with Walker being supported by these same Corps.? Smells a lot like bribery. And what the hell's wrong with people paying taxes to give themselves some support in the event of bad things happening like unemployment? This country did just fine when Unions were at their peak- 1946-80. It's been downhill for working people ever since. It's not OK.
@Dave925 They deserve tax cuts. They provide the jobs. They use that extra money to improve the company and hire workers. When corporate taxes are lower, the economy does better. That is fact. Read the history books. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
@yandirtty21 At what point were corporate tax rates lower than they are now? Because the economy isn't doing any better. Are you going to point to "uncertainty" and "speculation"? They have YET to use that extra money to hire workers. They have used that extra money to line their OWN pockets and the funding outsourcing of American jobs.
We can talk history. When have the tax rates really been lower than now? When has a completely capitalist system thrived anywhere in history?
@Jmarsfan28 really? I was going based on history, track records and facts. I didnt realize you could counter my argument by pulling a random talking point out of your ass. Well played sir.
Respond to this video... You idiots who rip on big corporations know nothing about how they work. 1 person is not in power of it all but that is what dems. unions CNN, NBC, CBS and jealous people want you to think
@Jmarsfan28 Now where you say? Excellent. I had no idea I was dealing with a Rhode Scholar. I am definitely out of my league. I did not realize the US was completely capitalist. I had no idea. I was under the impression that there was a socialist/communal base funding the foundation on which a capitalist system could be built upon. But please, enlighten me more.
@Matryx Look at Texas, they have very low corporate tax rates and their state has a very low unemployment rate. When Reagan lowered the corporate tax rate in the 80s inflation decreased, and unemployment rate decreased to 4.75%. 17,000,000 jobs were created in his 8 years. Is that enough history for you? I'm sure if the corporate executives were busy stuffing their pockets we wouldn't of seen an economic improvement. You have nothing left to say. Try to bullshit your way out of that one, queer.
@yandirtty21 No its not enough history.Revenues doubled every decade since the depression regardless of the president. Unemployment went up under him and then tapered back off near the end of his presidency. The Reaganomics myth gets picked apart time and time again. Look at the history of the entire country. Look at world history. As for Texas, 8.4% unemployment? .and the nation is at 9.1? Bush tax cuts have been in place for a decade. Profits went up yet so did unemployment. whats that tell U?
@Matryx Ok, now you are stating false facts. It is written history that unemployment during the 80s was at 4.75%. You can't deny that. You are simply resorting to lying. If you look at Texas, they have a large population. It is very impressive for a state that has 25,145,561 people to have an 8.4% unemployment rate. Compared to California, which has 11.7%. The Bush tax cuts were not enough to save this economy. We need more deregulation and energy independence. Bush wasn't a real conservative.
@yandirtty21 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics: In 1980 unemployment averaged 7.175%. It steadily increased under him until 1983 where it averaged 9.3%. Steadily decreased over the next 5 years where it was lowest in 1988 averaging 5.49%. I am not making up any facts. I am just using the ones that are there.
If tax breaks are what create jobs then our unemployment should have went down dramatically. They do not create jobs from cash on hand. Its based on demand. Texas ranks 28th btw.
@Matryx In the early 80s, there was a recession. Because of the terrible leadership of Jimmy Carter in the late 70s and early 80s. What I said was correct. Reagan left office with a 5.3% unemployment rate. You saw the facts yourself. Reagan did much more than cutting taxes on the American people and businesses. That's why we saw improvement. I don't care what Texas is ranked. Compare the corporate tax rates in Texas and California. Then compare the unemployment rates. You will then understand.
@yandirtty21 What you said was that unemployment was at 4.75% under Reagan. The BLS didnt show that number anywhere. It was never that low. And like I said there were a lot of factors that influenced things. An economic bubble was created. It will give a false sense of security. Clinton also benefited from the dot com explosion of e-commerce bubble. the numbers are good, but they need to be sustainable. Taxes were higher under Reagan even after cutting them. Cuttin them even more isnt the answer
@yandirtty21 The issue gets far deeper than 500 characters will allow. The book Worlds Together, Worlds Apart show the rise and fall of empires. It will show the consolidation of wealth to an empire, upheaval, the wealthy land owners siding with the peasants to overthrow the emperor, then buying up more land, someone else with power takes the place of emperor, then there is upheaval & the cycle continues. Now the "landowners" are "siding" with the peasants to overthrow a "ruler".
@yandirtty21 And me, you and Jmarsfan28 can disagree all we want, and thats fine. I just believe the money made from goods and services should go heavily towards the workers, so I would rather you and he get much more of the money than the person 8-9 tax brackets above you. You would be the ones I dealt with, not them. Your skills would be what provided me what I was using. The owner can get paid too, sure, but he/she should know he/she cannot make his/her fortune without your help.
@Matryx Well, regardless of your opinions, the CEO gets to pick his salary. It's his business. In America, you have freedom. If you don't like the company you work for, you can quit. CEOs aren't criminals because they get paid large sums of money. I'm not saying it's right, but it's just the way it is. Taxing businesses more won't take away from the CEO's salary. It will take away jobs. Why do you think China has a lower corporate tax rate than us? It's because they've figured it out.
@yandirtty21 Look at the tax rates of this country. We were doing better under higher tax rates. The lower the tax rates get the worse things are. Its not about creating jobs, its about power. Its about choking out a last line of defense. They dont want energy independence, they want the people to still be dependent. they need excuses to drive prices up. They need something tangible that can be controlled. Solar and wind cannot be controlled so theres really no way to control profits......
@Matryx The 90s is a perfect example of when the US was operating under higher taxes. Big banks, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac were offering expensive home to people that could not afford them. The mortgages that were signed had very low interest rates. The payments were made on the house using credit. People were investing in new NASDAQ stock. This created an economic boom. Jobs were created and profits were thought the roof. Unfortunately, it was all a bubble, and it burst in 2008.
Despite the tax rates, the country was in great condition because of the spending. In 2008, millions of jobs that were created in the 90s, were lost after the bubble burst. If your in a normal situation, where people are buying things are being purchased with their own money, low tax rates will make an economy explode. We saw in the 20s, and in the 80s. Saying that high tax rates spurs an economy is completely ridiculous. I wish I could explain further, but I'm limited to 500 characters.
@yandirtty21 They need finite supplies so they can charge accordingly. Nuclear waste. They know where they want to dump it, they know where. Yucca Mountains. How is the waste getting there? Trucks, via US freeways. There are accidents. They have mathematically calculated and planned for accidents and nuclear spills. They are acceptable risks and are worth the profit. Nuclear waste on our freeways is not acceptable to me. Read about Tesla and why you didnt hear much about him. Its all about power
@yandirtty21 So to exploit people here and in 3rd world countries, to take risks with citizens lives so it doesnt cut into their profit margin, hence their own salaries (which a small group of privileged people all set for themselves. I have never been asked if a CEO salary was ok.) is criminal. But who has the power to stop them? Individual boycotts of companies don't work. Whats the difference between $3,456,323,345 and $3,456,323,242? Its not a big enough impact to make them soul search.
@yandirtty21 The national deficit explode under Ronald Reagan. The man should not be held as a hero, he should be criticized for the great harm he contributed to our economy. Trickle down economics does not work.
@superkracker In case you are unaware of history. Reagan was building thousands of nuclear weapons every month to compete with the USSR. The military budget exploded, which increased the deficit. That's not a bad thing, considering that it lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union. You can read my past comments explaining the logistics of trickle down economics and it's success, compared to the "spend everything" method that you liberals embrace. Go read a book.
@yandirtty21 Wow what a strategy. Drive our country into debt to force another country into debt. That is genius. There were many reasons that the Soviet Union collapsed. Don't give your hero to the wealthy too much credit. After all, we are in the same situation right now and he played a major in it. Get an argument point that you didn't steal from Fox news.
@superkracker It was all about strength. If the US wouldn't have stayed competitive, the USSR may have surpassed us. We only had one option. I give all the credit to Reagan/Bush. They did all of the work during the cold war. You need to get educated on this subject before you debate it. Take a look at the Reagan administrations success over the 8 years of presidency, and another 4 years of Bush. You would be surprised about what a good job he did. Compare that to Obama, our worthless president.
@yandirtty21 he isnt resorting to it. he hasnt said a damn fact and when he does he misinterprets it. but he is probably the best liberal i ever talked to online.....sad isn't it???
she's lying, but she's still a MILF
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America meet your new owners -The Kochs. This anti-labor belief stems directly from the Koch familial ties in Nazi Germany. Erich Koch was a high ranking Nazi official in the Ukraine, who, in addition to having control of the Gestapo and the police, worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labor Deployment, to provide the Reich with forced labor. Erich Koch faced charges of war crimes for the extermination of 400,000 Poles.
ChristopherFHanson 4 days ago
CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS MOUNTAIN OF B.S. THESE FOOLS WILL SAT ANYTHING
AOS1738 6 days ago
FUCK YOU SCOTTY WALKER, AND YOUR LITTLE BITCH FAKE SCHOOL TEACHER.
stillbreathing37 1 week ago
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What is wrong with Walker? why should crappy teachers with tenure keep their jobs while good young teachers lose them? and why should the state or nat'l gov pay for 90% of a teachers retirement? Farmers work hard everyday and barely get by. No one helps them. You anti-walker protesters are selfish. stop thinking about yourself and scaring the public into believing your skewed views. Most americans pay for their own benefits and its about time you do too!
woofan11k 1 month ago
BULL SHIT
2BLKN 1 month ago
I want to know who she is and school district? Anyone can say what she said without saying where they are form.
packisback19 1 month ago
How do you think Karin spent her 30 pieces of silver?
judeseamus 1 month ago
What is this woman's name? Nobody seems to know who she is. If any of you know, please reply. The suspicion is that she is only an actress. Thanks.
bjbinmke 1 month ago
@bjbinmke I THINK SHE MAYBE AN ACTRESS FROM CHICAGO,ILL
AOS1738 4 days ago
Faggot.
Tyu248 1 month ago
Scott Walker is misleading us again.
He uses words like "tools" and "options" so he doesn't have to actually tell you what he did. He misled the citizens fo Wisconsin by talking about benefits without ever mentioning the lower salaries.
He misled people into blaming teachers for what Wall Street did. Wall Street crashed the economy which greatly lowered revenue for state budgets when the people losing their jobs stopped paying income taxes.
Wall Street should have to pay, not teachers.
oicuam2 1 month ago
what school District? What is your name? more Wanker B. S. get some cutesy Blond to do your bidding and we are to take this bait, get real
a bottom feeding Carp would spit out this hook.
bobrat 1 month ago
Working together?! Really?!!!
markhinr 1 month ago
Options are to fuck the middle class Walker is a tool!!!!!!!
bigefm 1 month ago 3
25 schools? don't you mean 27? oh karin, you're so silly!
bettynen 1 month ago 2
Here's what's wrong with this: SHE'S NOT A TEACHER! She's a board member from a wealthy school district.
And she says that the money saved can now be used where it belongs - in the classroom. Uh...what?!?! Not unless you mean by giving fat contracts to your construction buddies.
RoxyGraceLV 1 month ago 4
@RoxyGraceLV plus the School distract shes from is Walker territory
MetalEdge56 1 month ago
@RoxyGraceLV THERE'LL SAY ANYTHING TO MADE THIS FOOL(WALKER) LOOK GOOD
AOS1738 6 days ago
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Scott Walker for President!
Scott Walker's saving Union Jobs, protecting our seniors and resident poor, restoring Medicaid by adding 1.2 billion dollars into its budget, protecting families by making it possible to defend against home invaders, protecting the weak by ensuring they have the right to carry a firearm and defend themselves on the streets, restoring fiscal integrity in government and taking the power out of Madison and putting it into the local governments of Wisconsin.
R6Mike88 1 month ago
anybody know what school district this woman is from?
wausauman 1 month ago
RECALL WALKER!
arcticcat136 1 month ago 2
Still Bullshit.
Greedy liar.
Arguing fails to justify.
317 dislikes to 169 likes....
You're still denied.
FirstHumanimalien 1 month ago 2
Jmarsfan28: do you know anything about thing ? i think not . people who voted for walker still haven't seen the snow job he's done on them and everyone else in wisconsin. he didn't know what he was doing when he headed milwaukee county, and look at the matter he left there. and he doesn't know what he's doing as govorner, ! and i can't wait to see mess he'll leave for us when he's done scerwing everyone.
AOS1738 1 month ago 2
this is correct and more will close in the future, or the school districts will privitize some, which means less money going to them, and more local taxes you will have to pay. thats not to mention winter is here how much money is being cut from you county road crews whos going to plow you out if these workers are not being payed?? most county workers are directly effected by this also. I think this is deeper water than the average wisconsinite thinks.
mmeck175 2 months ago
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Walker lied about school staff cuts. There was a 5% overall staff reduction:
Google: walker-says-overwhelming-number-wisconsin-school-d
ge556 2 months ago
"put more money back into the classrooms".
Really?
Define "more".
When less becomes more Orwell is grinning.
bstarzewski 2 months ago
how many schools have had to close since the bill has passed. how bout we make the big corparations pay for more of there health care benifits. Education and Emergency service is the last place you take tax more and make pay more the ABSOLUTE LAST PLACE!!!!
lukewalln 2 months ago
@lukewalln you make no sense. What is your point about corporations. there employess arent payed by tax payers...
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@lukewalln yeah how many schools. Hummmm i think none
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 actually if you watch the news more than enough schools have closed since the bill was passed.
lukewalln 2 months ago
@lukewalln yes schools close but what are the circumstances in them?
Jmarsfan28 1 month ago
Man, I'm from Texas and even I think Scott walker is bad for you guys.
Dubblecast 2 months ago
@Dubblecast yeah balancing a budget is a bad bad thing especially when you take away 1 thing called a benefit that people think they are entitled too
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Walker has done wonders for out state....
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Statewide school property taxes on December tax bills are dropping 1 percent, from $4.69 billion last year to $4.65 billion this year.
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
i see you dont support his budget plan cause of what he did to balance our budget but what do you think about iron Ore mining in Wisconsin. I think its about time. Minnesota has the iron range and they utilize it and i believe Michigan does to so the east of us does it and the North of us do it and it turns out we got it to.
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 If it can be done safely, the mining would be fine. However, the Republicans don't seem to think it can be done safely (even thought they claim otherwise). If they did, they wouldn't need to cancel the environmental protections.
ge556 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 I forgot to mention that the schools will be hurt much more next year, when the second round of cuts hits, and the federal stimulus funds are gone. They are going to be in a world of hurt.
ge556 2 months ago
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Walker's record: 8 truths, 4 half-truths (half lies), 25 lies.
Google:politifact personalities scott-walker file
ge556 2 months ago
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Walker lied about school staff cuts.
Google: walker-says-overwhelming-number-wisconsin-school-d
ge556 2 months ago
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Years ago, the school boards followed the state's example with a way to save taxes. Instead of giving pay raises, they raised benefit contributions. Now Walker has forced them to renege on this arrangement, by taking making the teachers pay a second time for the same benefits.
If he had given them their pay raises back, it would have been fair. But he used that money to balance the budget, instead. That is wrong.
ge556 2 months ago
HEY your right you can check the signatures maybe i will volunteer to do it. take a lot of work though marking all those fake signatures...
ge got something right!!!!!!!!!
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Why do you like the governor who is damaging our schools?
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 I am not aware of him hurting our schools. if he did hurt them wouldn't they raise there school taxes? Ido agree that he did do something that if i was a teacher would not be that happy with (not i am not defended the ones that skipped work) but it was not that bad. paying for your own pensions and paying at least 12.6% of the average cost of annual premiums also is not bad. I pay over 20%
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 He made a big funding cut to schools, and made it harder for them to compensate by raising taxes. They can still do so, by referendum, but this shifts a major burden from state income taxes to local property taxes, which is a major hardship for some districts and many individuals, so a referendum might fail.
ge556 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 The teachers were already paying for those benefits. Years ago, the state and the school districts chose to save employer taxes by withholding annual pay raises, and gave benefits instead. Now Walker has taken those away,. If he had given the pay raises back, it would have been fair, Instead, he took that money to balance the budget, and now the teachers have to pay for their benefits a second time. I think that is despicable.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 No they shouldnt get a pay raise.Life doesnt work that way. just cause my health care cost was raised doesnt mean i demand i get more money. They pay 12.6% of there health care. the other people in state pay 20 to 50% of health care. I think they can deal with it. So are you saying he should of done what Illinois did cause i would think then public worker would have a right to be pissed
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 You seem to have missed what I wrote: "The teachers were already paying for those benefits." The second sentence explained it very briefly.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 how?
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
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@Jmarsfan28 Once again: The teachers were already paying for those benefits. Years ago, the state and the school districts chose to save employer taxes by withholding annual pay raises, and gave benefits instead. Now Walker has taken those away. If he had given the pay raises back, it would have been fair. Instead, he took that money to balance the budget, and now the teachers have to pay for their benefits a second time. I think that is despicable.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 how the hell is it despicable. Things change.... money runs out... or as my father always said to me "Shit Happens"
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 He took from the teachers, and deceived people into thinking that it was fair when it was not. He gave tax breaks to the rich.
ge556 2 months ago
since when to liberals not want illegal citizens in our country? they are the ones who oppose most border protecting.
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
To see what you need to get a driver's license, Google this:
proof-legal.htm acceptable documents
I suggest that you stop calling people idiots when you don't know what you're talking about.
And maybe if you learn some things, you'll see how bad Walker is for Wisconsin.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 you need you social security number or a visa to get that. i know a lot of things about wisconsin and about business how i know that all of you recall walker people think only about yourself and not wisconsin which is a balanced budget
MrDuramax57 2 months ago
@MrDuramax57 yea they either only think about themselves or occupy wall street dip shits or people brain washed by the teachers
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@MrDuramax57 "you need you social security number or a visa to get that." That's closer, but not what it said.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 i feel like your ignorant and trying to fight something that you know is true
MrDuramax57 2 months ago
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I don't know which comment this refers to, but it would appear that you don't know what "ignorant" means, if you are calling me ignorant and saying that I, in fact, know the truth, but choose to deny it.
ge556 2 months ago
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Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@ge556 so you telling me that those dead people fake signatures wont count and those teenage girls wont count and the people who sign many times wont count and well actually with soooo many violations if the people monitoring this were legit then they shouldnt even be able to recall them
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 "Those teenaged girls" were apparently of age, and if so, they should count.
I don't know what dead people you are talking about. Do you mean the ones that some Republican made up?
People are allowed to sign more than once, so they need to be counted only once. Some people are inclined to sign twice because some Walker supporters claimed that they would collect signatures and destroy them, which makes it hard to know that your signature will be counted, doesn't it?
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 you really do the best you can in turing the illegal stuff into legal stuff. and you do a lot of attempting to turn it back around. Now about those kids or maybe not kids. if they were kids the recallers broke 4 laws in the mean time of those signatures. 1. Occupying a entrance ramp is illegal. 2offering anything exchange for a signature is illegal 3. Giving Cigarettes to a minor is illegal 4 taking minors signatures is illegal. Even if they were not minors they broke Laws
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
ok lets get back to the point!! how is the budge really going to go down? how is this going to effect you?
mmeck175 2 months ago
some shit head signed it 80 times then said on video "they did it for Bush so im going to do it for walker"
no no they didnt sign many time to recall bush cause he was never Recalled. such a great example of 40% of liberals
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Nice. You make stuff up, and then blame 40% of liberals.
There are a few bad apples on both sides. I had a wacko call the cops on me for circulating petitions the other day. He claimed I was trying to steal his identity.
ge556 2 months ago
the good thing is with his new voter I.D thing will prevent the typical dems/liberal cheating
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
even ones not in government are greedy and dont give acrap bout its employees
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
unions are greeedy
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
i here and see so many accusations of recall people harassing people who dont wanna sign. Even i have a bit at the bar
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 There are a very few people on both sides who are acting inappropriately. They need to return to civility.
The real problem, however, is the attacks on our schools, our public servants, our environmental protections, our consumer protections, our voting rights, and our values.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 Both sides??lol okay. Now what voting rights are being taking away. Making someone show and ID is not a rights issue. actually what attacks on any of the things you listed. O and is it lagging when you type cause it is for me ever since they updated it
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Some people don't have the required ID, and have to take off time from work to get one. Worst case: some people can't get one, because the don't have a certified birth certificate, and can't get one without an ID, depending where they were born. Others just won't do it, because it's too much time and effort, plus money for a birth certificate in some cases, so they won't be able to vote.
Lagging when you type sounds like a browser issue, i.e., on your computer.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 maybe computer but it started lagging as soon as they upgraded You TUbe
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
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Anyone who refers to Walker's "tools", or the "flexibility" or "options" he "gave" school districts is echoing Walker's spin, not reporting facts.
ge556 2 months ago
Teachers will finely be graded on kids performance. I saw this in my news paper and then online too. this is a good thing
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
ugh... i will try to get it to post a link somehow.
well middelton raised salaries and did not lower taxes is about all it is
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Here, I'll help. Google this: Raises approved for all Middleton-Cross Plains school employees
It says they got a 1 1/2% raise, AFTER Walker's cut, which was 14% in some cases.
They got this because of growth. The formula hurts some districts more than others.
Anyone who thinks Walker didn't hurt the MCPSD is not paying attention. Kudos to the school board for doing the best they can.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 thanks for the help. nice to add opinion.do you know that by his health care thing where they dont have to use union made health care and making teachers pay 12% of health care and a little for retirement that it saves districts alot of money?/
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 The WEA Trust Insurance does not apply to Madison, where I live. The Republicans tend to lie about it, saying the union profits from it, which is not true.
Some districts left WEA Trust and got less coverage elsewhere. Some got better deals with WEA Trust.
To read more about Republican lies, Google: The School District of Marshfield chose the WEA Trust’s group health insurance coverage because of the Trust’s competitive pricing,and unparalleled products and services
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 No not all use wea trust crap but have republicans lied about that? No, they never said that all use it. The ones that do that are switching are saving tons of money. Menomonee Falls, Kaukauna, Hudson, Pewaukee,Neenah and more
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Nice job of changing what I said they lied about.
ge556 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 About taking money from teachers to save money: That's a very shortsighted approach. Many of the most experienced teachers have just retired, which also saved some money, but at a loss to the quality of education. With the reduction in take-home pay, fewer people will become teachers, and fewer teachers will move to Wisconsin, which will further degrade our schools. That's why we have to get rid of Walker and the Republican extremists.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 Yeah saved money cause there salary is based on senority which is bs. Should and will be on performance. Well actually not really save money cause dont taxpayers now have to pay even more for them because they retired?
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Retirement is funded from retirement fund, not from additional taxes.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 k i havent found a straaight answeer on that retirement stuff
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 The Middleton-Cross Plains School Board President was interviewed about the budget, and how it has hurt schools.
Google: a-school-board-president-speaks-out-against-budget
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 Well that aint a surprise... There Unions tell them what to do...
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Nice unsupported accusation, there.
ge556 2 months ago
here is a article that i found. I dont take there word without looking into it myself but here is example of teachers not getting fired or cut on pay but actually getting a raise. maybe small but it is still good. And no raised Taxes for this either
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 good look. how does a reply work lets see
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Walker's record: 8 truths, 4 half-truths (half lies), 25 lies.
Google:politifact personalities scott-walker file
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 ge556 0 truths 0 half truth # of comments lie/B.S
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Walker lied about school staff cuts.
Google: walker-says-overwhelming-number-wisconsin-school-d
ge556 2 months ago
Someone can't count...in her district there are fifteen elementary schools, four middle schools, three high school and five charter schools. Do the math. And in her other ad about how wonderful this POS is, the commercial about how Il raised taxes %66, here is the article on that, in case some of you supporters refuse to educate yourselves;
TheBtrflygrl73 2 months ago
Oh Youtube has gotten so dumb omg. I can't post the website, do a search for Il tax increase, the article is from Jan of this year, stating the percentage taxes were increased, which isn't much at all....but when you use a number like %66, it sounds worse then what it is. If Walker wouldn't have taken ALL their bargaining rights away accept for raises, which will not be more then the cost of living, it wouldn't be this bad, or if he wouldn't have knowingly busted the union. He dug his own grave.
TheBtrflygrl73 2 months ago
Definitely her *own* opinion. She was asked to clarify that by Board. I can't say what, specifically, is happening in Waukesha. I *can* say both Walker and Kasich have significantly cut funds to education. I don't think that's a way forward for either state.
johnincincinnati 2 months ago
Walker! Walker! hes are man! he cant do it? NO ONE CAN! Keep doin what you do Scott! Theres just some people in this state that just want it all and make are state more UNprogressing.. they need eyes.
kfoelker 2 months ago
@kfoelker alot of idiots who only believe what there lil liberal sites say and well if it is on the internet it must be true right? well they believe that
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Progress: Yes, in the big race to the bottom.
MajorJakobs 2 months ago
"the only districts that are laying off teachers are the one who are not using his tools that he gave."
That is FALSE. Don't believe anything Walker says.
Politifact says, "Nearly two out of three districts (63 percent) reported a net loss of teachers."
Google: politifact walker-says-overwhelming-number-wisconsin-school-d
Oh, and if you call cuts to education "tools", or "options", you are showing that you have drunk the Walker kool-aid.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 i looked it up myself i dont only listen to the polititian. if i did i would be and obama voter cause he lies all the time. and yet you still make up facts. its hilarious
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 I gave my source--politifact. What is yours?
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 various. I dont have one i look for #s and i do look at city news papers to see if they are honestly telling the truth
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
Teachers have had their salaries limited for about 20 years in Wisconsin. Now they just took a big cut in take-home pay, because Walker thinks it's better for a few to take a big hit than to share the burden fairly across the state, with a tiny tax increase.
And even with the cuts to teachers' pay, teachers are getting laid off,classes are being cut, and class sizes are increasing. There will be a bigger hit next year when the federal stimulus funds are gone.
Recall Walker, save our schools.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 vote democrat kill our school.... srcew teachers fire em
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@ge556 Big Hit my ass. the only districts that are laying off teachers are the one who are not using his tools that he gave. I can guarantee that any school districts with many layoff did there contract with the unions before this was all done and passed. what is not fair is a greedy union claiming that they support teachers making there own health insurance company make rates WAY higher than the private sector then FORCING schools to use it. WALKER fixed that too by the way
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
and yet i dont bitch about it like so many in this are
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
not fair? making em pay a bit more for benefits not fair? I Can think of tons of harder lives in america. Hell mine even is
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
ha so many dislikes
MrMophead99 2 months ago
Teachers and other government employees had already involuntarily traded salary for benefits. It was unfair of Walker to take that away without giving their salary back.
ge556 2 months ago
yeah you people say higher taxes but then when it goes to you actually paying them then you all of a sudden dont want them. for example look at the teachers than skipped work (funny how they never got punished) and protested cause they had to pay for there retirement and a lil more of health care.....
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 So you think it's reasonable for public employees to take the full cost, but not to spread it around so that everyone pays a tiny tax increase? That's just not fair.
ge556 2 months ago
@ge556 no whats not fair is Africa. He saved there jobs and they still want to recall him. In your persceptive not fair would be like Illinois where they had same problems but had different approach. what happaned was many public employees lost there jobs and raised taxes and it still didnt solve anything. where in wisconsin is solved our budget...
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
@ge556 o and by the way they still have it very nice and they make good money so stop your crying for them
Jmarsfan28 2 months ago
There is no "working together" coming from Walker. He is damaging our schools, which will damage our future. Schools survived this year through taking from teachers, and from the federal stimulus funds. Next year there will be more budget cuts, and the stimulus funds will be gone. Our schools are going to be in a world of hurt.
ge556 2 months ago
Psychopathic Liars?
But really, why live in Wisconsin? You're really asking for your money to be managed by some total dipshit like this. Best of luck. Move to a real state.
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FirstHumanimalien 3 months ago
@FirstHumanimalien yeah like Liberal LALA land california
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
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FirstHumanimalien 3 months ago
Wisconsin is #1 amongst all of the fifty states.* Thanks, Governor Walker.
*In amount of jobs lost in October.
Anglagard1 3 months ago
wow recall walker dip shits occupying bridge are using minors signatures and paying them cigarettes.......
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
This woman is just another pro-Walker clown.
Several schools in my area closed, and teachers lost jobs due to the budget cuts. They also wanted to raise property taxes to help fund the schools that are still open. If the property taxes aren't increased, they may have to lay off more teachers. The burden was moved from the state level to the local level but we still pay the price. Walker plan has done nothing for education, but he has increased the unemployment percentage.
SmitterTA 3 months ago
She's been on the Waukesha school board for a whopping 7 months, which makes her a novice, not the voice of reason or experience regarding school budgets. She has a lot of learning to do before she understands school finance and funding, and all the damage that Walker is doing to education in our state. The ripple effect of Walker's bill will be felt for years to come. Walker doesn't interview the experienced school board members in our state because we know the decimation he's responsible for.
anita2u 3 months ago 2
If you're starving, you don't eat your leg. It reduces the chances of long-term survival.
ge556 3 months ago 2
When the state has a deficit, you need to make cuts. If you don't, the state will go bankrupt. The union fucks don't understand that.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
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What you wingnut effs don't understand is whacking wprling people's incomes to extend tax breaks to huge corporations amounts to yet another a transfer of wealth from working people to, yes, I'll use the term, the 1%. This shit has been going on for 30 years now and look at the mess this country is in. Coincidence? I think not, It's all according to extremist right wingers desire to return us to the robber baron era of 120 years ago. Karl Rove's Hero is Mark Hanna. Look it up.
Dave925 3 months ago
@Dave925 Yes, the reason why our state is bankrupt is because we don't have enough revenue. We expect the rich to pay for the pampered unions yet, why do they have to? You clearly don't understand the facts. We're spending way more then we take in. The answer is not to take in more, but to spend less. You're a moron.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 And you didn't address the FACT that Walker extended grotesque tax cuts for his corporate sponsors which put your budget in deficit. Who's the moron now asshat?
Dave925 3 months ago
@Dave925 still you ass hat what ever that means. That helps get JOBS you know for the people who pay all the Government salaries and teachers free stuff and all the unemployed people that use government money and paying all the property taxes, income.....
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 I see. So you need to rob Peter to pay Paul in some bizarre race to the bottom in pay and benefits? I suppose the tax cuts had nothing to do with Walker being supported by these same Corps.? Smells a lot like bribery. And what the hell's wrong with people paying taxes to give themselves some support in the event of bad things happening like unemployment? This country did just fine when Unions were at their peak- 1946-80. It's been downhill for working people ever since. It's not OK.
Dave925 3 months ago
@Dave925 okay every body is taxed besides some of the poor and the Hmong people who aren't taxed the same...
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Dave925 They deserve tax cuts. They provide the jobs. They use that extra money to improve the company and hire workers. When corporate taxes are lower, the economy does better. That is fact. Read the history books. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 At what point were corporate tax rates lower than they are now? Because the economy isn't doing any better. Are you going to point to "uncertainty" and "speculation"? They have YET to use that extra money to hire workers. They have used that extra money to line their OWN pockets and the funding outsourcing of American jobs.
We can talk history. When have the tax rates really been lower than now? When has a completely capitalist system thrived anywhere in history?
Matryx 3 months ago
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Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 really? I was going based on history, track records and facts. I didnt realize you could counter my argument by pulling a random talking point out of your ass. Well played sir.
Matryx 3 months ago
@Matryx so you dont want a capitolism country?? what the hell do you want then
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
Respond to this video... You idiots who rip on big corporations know nothing about how they work. 1 person is not in power of it all but that is what dems. unions CNN, NBC, CBS and jealous people want you to think
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
Respond to this video... now where cause nobody has done it till USA so what you want is socialist???When has that ever worked????
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 Now where you say? Excellent. I had no idea I was dealing with a Rhode Scholar. I am definitely out of my league. I did not realize the US was completely capitalist. I had no idea. I was under the impression that there was a socialist/communal base funding the foundation on which a capitalist system could be built upon. But please, enlighten me more.
Matryx 3 months ago
@Matryx unfortunaly our president is attempting to make this country a communist and yeah we are in debt to a messed up china
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Matryx Look at Texas, they have very low corporate tax rates and their state has a very low unemployment rate. When Reagan lowered the corporate tax rate in the 80s inflation decreased, and unemployment rate decreased to 4.75%. 17,000,000 jobs were created in his 8 years. Is that enough history for you? I'm sure if the corporate executives were busy stuffing their pockets we wouldn't of seen an economic improvement. You have nothing left to say. Try to bullshit your way out of that one, queer.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 No its not enough history.Revenues doubled every decade since the depression regardless of the president. Unemployment went up under him and then tapered back off near the end of his presidency. The Reaganomics myth gets picked apart time and time again. Look at the history of the entire country. Look at world history. As for Texas, 8.4% unemployment? .and the nation is at 9.1? Bush tax cuts have been in place for a decade. Profits went up yet so did unemployment. whats that tell U?
Matryx 3 months ago
@Matryx Ok, now you are stating false facts. It is written history that unemployment during the 80s was at 4.75%. You can't deny that. You are simply resorting to lying. If you look at Texas, they have a large population. It is very impressive for a state that has 25,145,561 people to have an 8.4% unemployment rate. Compared to California, which has 11.7%. The Bush tax cuts were not enough to save this economy. We need more deregulation and energy independence. Bush wasn't a real conservative.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics: In 1980 unemployment averaged 7.175%. It steadily increased under him until 1983 where it averaged 9.3%. Steadily decreased over the next 5 years where it was lowest in 1988 averaging 5.49%. I am not making up any facts. I am just using the ones that are there.
If tax breaks are what create jobs then our unemployment should have went down dramatically. They do not create jobs from cash on hand. Its based on demand. Texas ranks 28th btw.
Matryx 3 months ago
@Matryx In the early 80s, there was a recession. Because of the terrible leadership of Jimmy Carter in the late 70s and early 80s. What I said was correct. Reagan left office with a 5.3% unemployment rate. You saw the facts yourself. Reagan did much more than cutting taxes on the American people and businesses. That's why we saw improvement. I don't care what Texas is ranked. Compare the corporate tax rates in Texas and California. Then compare the unemployment rates. You will then understand.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 What you said was that unemployment was at 4.75% under Reagan. The BLS didnt show that number anywhere. It was never that low. And like I said there were a lot of factors that influenced things. An economic bubble was created. It will give a false sense of security. Clinton also benefited from the dot com explosion of e-commerce bubble. the numbers are good, but they need to be sustainable. Taxes were higher under Reagan even after cutting them. Cuttin them even more isnt the answer
Matryx 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 The issue gets far deeper than 500 characters will allow. The book Worlds Together, Worlds Apart show the rise and fall of empires. It will show the consolidation of wealth to an empire, upheaval, the wealthy land owners siding with the peasants to overthrow the emperor, then buying up more land, someone else with power takes the place of emperor, then there is upheaval & the cycle continues. Now the "landowners" are "siding" with the peasants to overthrow a "ruler".
Matryx 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 And me, you and Jmarsfan28 can disagree all we want, and thats fine. I just believe the money made from goods and services should go heavily towards the workers, so I would rather you and he get much more of the money than the person 8-9 tax brackets above you. You would be the ones I dealt with, not them. Your skills would be what provided me what I was using. The owner can get paid too, sure, but he/she should know he/she cannot make his/her fortune without your help.
Matryx 2 months ago
@Matryx Well, regardless of your opinions, the CEO gets to pick his salary. It's his business. In America, you have freedom. If you don't like the company you work for, you can quit. CEOs aren't criminals because they get paid large sums of money. I'm not saying it's right, but it's just the way it is. Taxing businesses more won't take away from the CEO's salary. It will take away jobs. Why do you think China has a lower corporate tax rate than us? It's because they've figured it out.
yandirtty21 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 Look at the tax rates of this country. We were doing better under higher tax rates. The lower the tax rates get the worse things are. Its not about creating jobs, its about power. Its about choking out a last line of defense. They dont want energy independence, they want the people to still be dependent. they need excuses to drive prices up. They need something tangible that can be controlled. Solar and wind cannot be controlled so theres really no way to control profits......
Matryx 2 months ago
@Matryx The 90s is a perfect example of when the US was operating under higher taxes. Big banks, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac were offering expensive home to people that could not afford them. The mortgages that were signed had very low interest rates. The payments were made on the house using credit. People were investing in new NASDAQ stock. This created an economic boom. Jobs were created and profits were thought the roof. Unfortunately, it was all a bubble, and it burst in 2008.
yandirtty21 2 months ago
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Despite the tax rates, the country was in great condition because of the spending. In 2008, millions of jobs that were created in the 90s, were lost after the bubble burst. If your in a normal situation, where people are buying things are being purchased with their own money, low tax rates will make an economy explode. We saw in the 20s, and in the 80s. Saying that high tax rates spurs an economy is completely ridiculous. I wish I could explain further, but I'm limited to 500 characters.
yandirtty21 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 They need finite supplies so they can charge accordingly. Nuclear waste. They know where they want to dump it, they know where. Yucca Mountains. How is the waste getting there? Trucks, via US freeways. There are accidents. They have mathematically calculated and planned for accidents and nuclear spills. They are acceptable risks and are worth the profit. Nuclear waste on our freeways is not acceptable to me. Read about Tesla and why you didnt hear much about him. Its all about power
Matryx 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 So to exploit people here and in 3rd world countries, to take risks with citizens lives so it doesnt cut into their profit margin, hence their own salaries (which a small group of privileged people all set for themselves. I have never been asked if a CEO salary was ok.) is criminal. But who has the power to stop them? Individual boycotts of companies don't work. Whats the difference between $3,456,323,345 and $3,456,323,242? Its not a big enough impact to make them soul search.
Matryx 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 The national deficit explode under Ronald Reagan. The man should not be held as a hero, he should be criticized for the great harm he contributed to our economy. Trickle down economics does not work.
superkracker 2 months ago
@superkracker In case you are unaware of history. Reagan was building thousands of nuclear weapons every month to compete with the USSR. The military budget exploded, which increased the deficit. That's not a bad thing, considering that it lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union. You can read my past comments explaining the logistics of trickle down economics and it's success, compared to the "spend everything" method that you liberals embrace. Go read a book.
yandirtty21 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 Wow what a strategy. Drive our country into debt to force another country into debt. That is genius. There were many reasons that the Soviet Union collapsed. Don't give your hero to the wealthy too much credit. After all, we are in the same situation right now and he played a major in it. Get an argument point that you didn't steal from Fox news.
superkracker 2 months ago
@superkracker It was all about strength. If the US wouldn't have stayed competitive, the USSR may have surpassed us. We only had one option. I give all the credit to Reagan/Bush. They did all of the work during the cold war. You need to get educated on this subject before you debate it. Take a look at the Reagan administrations success over the 8 years of presidency, and another 4 years of Bush. You would be surprised about what a good job he did. Compare that to Obama, our worthless president.
yandirtty21 2 months ago
@yandirtty21 he isnt resorting to it. he hasnt said a damn fact and when he does he misinterprets it. but he is probably the best liberal i ever talked to online.....sad isn't it???
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 you are very correct. This idiot wants a socialist country. He even said he didnt want capitolism
Jmarsfan28 3 months ago
@Jmarsfan28 You are too. These assholes don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
yandirtty21 3 months ago
@yandirtty21 You seem to be a very busy guy on this thread. I'd bet you're a paid shill for the fascist beasts aren't you? Dickwad.
Dave925 3 months ago