I just looked through how many comments I left and I feel terrible. I am just going to send it in a letter to make it easier fo you to read. So check your private messages.
@Meangrl19 Im not mad ofc not its only a show I read it =) but by the time I was done I didn't really care about The cotor Martha Donna Rose What ever I am finding that everyone takes the bashing the liking way to serious and its no fun anymore I cant even comment on Martha videos because Im a Rose fan And theres nothing wrong with that. I liked all the companions but No your not aloud to have a faverout companion so it seems
@SasuSakufan109 Wow it's been a long time. Hey! You commented on that other video and were mean to Martha!!! I thought you liked her? You can like Rose all you want, but you don''t have to bash Martha for Rose to be your favorite. I love Rose, but I don't have to bash Martha, Donna, or River or anyone like all of you do.
"haha the doctor is still head over heels with rose =) Muahaha take that Martha" That's not acceptable. There was nothing funny about how the Doctor abused Martha.
@Meangrl19 Especially in this episode where he abandons her the moment he forces her to wear that Maid's Pinny. It's 1913-- white men had brown skinned sisters, half-sisters, nieces, and even daughters--so the writers kind failed their young audience here. Yeah, people would have talked but they were probably already talking about Smith traveling alone with his pretty dark complexioned maid but detrementally about Martha's character. It was not acceptable. Bravo.
@Bobsyermomsuncle I didn't even know that he could have said she was a niece or something. That takes the abuse to a whole new level. I can't say I'm surprised though. What gets me worked up is that all these people hate Marth and bash her when she is the victim in all this and gets abused by the Doctor all the time, but everyone just seems to be alright with it because he's the Doctor so it's okay. Well, it's not okay. I used to think the world of the Doctor until he did this. I don't know
@Bobsyermomsuncle why everyone thinks it's so funny about a woman getting abused, to be honest, but I know it sickens me and has made me lose all my faith in humanity these past couple months. If peoples attidues towards this kind of behavior are this way with fictional people I'd hate for them to be around when someone gets abused in real life. It frightens me, honestly. Anyway, thanks for backing
@Bobsyermomsuncle me up. It certainly wasn't acceptable and I don't know why all these young girls think the Doctor abusing Martha is funny. That was nothing funny about what he put her through.
@Meangrl19 I still cant blame him though even though theres no exscuse on how he treated her I think this doctor really shows how living to long and lossing people and yeah I liked martha but I like Rose the best =p
@SasuSakufan109 The first couple of time I watched the episode I justified what the Doctor did to her because I was sympathising with him, but when you try to see it from Martha's point of view you realize how cruel he actually was to her. Not to mention how cruel all the fans are to her. I like Rose too, but what did that have to do with anything? Just because we like Rose doesn't mean we should be okay with the way he treated Martha.
@SasuSakufan109 If Rose was there she would have slapped him everytime he talked down to Martha the way he did. Even at the end of this episode he doesn't apologise to Martha for the way he treated her. So unfortunatley I do blame him. I love him, just not around her. She deserves to be treated better. It's too bad we never got to see Rose and Martha traveling together. Rose would have been kind to Martha, nothing like how the Doctor treated her.
@Meangrl19 Ohh Yeah I totally Agree and your he didnt even say sorry >< It was so sad seeing her run back and forth to the tardis and re watching the video To bad they didnt do an episode of them travelling together I would REALLY love to see Rose come back =p
@Meangrl19 And if you think about it The only companion if the 11th Doctor ever wanted to travel with any of the 10th companions it would have to be Martha because the 2 others were well You know... Sad =(
@SasuSakufan109 I'm glad you agree. Yeah, he never apologised to poor Martha. That's alright I still love her and I'll take good care of her, unlike him. Atleast Martha learned to be strong by herself and it was great that she found out she didn't need him and she kept saving everyone by herself. She was amazing! I really, really want to see an episode of Rose and Martha traveling together! I don't even care if the Doctor is there or not, I just want to see those two working together.
@SasuSakufan109 They'd be an amazing team! Martha was always kind of Doctor like. Rose runs on the instincts while Martha sticks with what she knows, just like the Doctor so they'd be a great team and they wouldn't really need him for that episode. Maybe they can save him together or something. Although since the end of Season 3 Martha has run on both instincts and what she knows, but oh well her and Rose would still be great together.
@SasuSakufan109 As for Martha traveling with the Doctor again, No thanks. Not unless Rose is there and she tells the Doctor off for being mean to Martha. Actually it seems like she would be telling both Doctors off for being mean to Martha because you know he would still be rude to her if she came back. Sorry, but I don't want it to be final for Donna either. Bring her back too while we're at it! I want to see her slap him for erasing her memory and leaving her behind!
@Meangrl19 Actually picture Donna Comeing and doing that would actually be Really funny hahahahahahahaha thoug it would be great for Donna to be back Donna was great but rose Was better hehe
@Meangrl19 Donna was a good character she was what the doctor needed (in my opinon) a companion to travel with to stop him like the episode of pempei or that episode with the bee's and the satarins the right companion for the right time what do you think? (hahaha Rose is still better though I have to mention this everytime I make a comment on another companion lawl)
@SasuSakufan109 In my opinion Donna was the one the Doctor needed because she was a good person to the very end. Martha was great, but she could have died and the Doctor would have neither cared or noticed. So Martha was great for he Doctor, but it was just entirely his fault that she couldn't help him. When she did help him actually, but by that time that the Doctor finally realised how important she was, she left. So that was his fault.
@SasuSakufan109 Rose was a good person and then turned bad and made the Doctor evil and cruel so she was no good for him and I say this as a fan of Doctor/Rose, but sorry they were no good for eachother. They made eachother cruel and horrible people. Martha made the Doctor a better person and then Donna kept him a better person. I'm sure Donna could have made the Doctor a better person without Martha's help, but you know credit's due to Martha since
@Meangrl19 Well you must have had a relationship before it takes awhile to get over someone espaicly someone that came along to help get through the other events that had happend when Rose met the doctor he was already at a bad place but rose helped him changed Yes sure that doesnt give the doctor an exscuse for him treating martha badly but at the same time I dont think he wanted to lead her on but the main point is he just lost the love of his life(quoted by dt himself) and he
@Meangrl19 was trying his best to let Martha in but as the which says "his heart grows cold" The Doctor Losing the Time Lords and losing Rose add on to burden to burden to burden to carry yes Martha was great but at the time I think the doctor didnt need someone to be in love with him And I like all the companions but I disagree how Rose was bad for him because Rose was the one that kept him going
@SasuSakufan109 Season 1 Rose was good for him. She was independent and empathetic. At the end of season 1, Rose started her commiting genocide phase and carrying big guns around. The doctor despised Martha and Jack for being in UNIT/Torchwood and he is the one who got Martha the job at UNIT in the first place so I don't know what that was about. He also yelled at them for having
guns when Martha didn't even carry one. It just seemed like Rose was allowed
@SasuSakufan109 to get away with everything she did wrong. Please don't think I'm 'dissing' Rose because I'm not. I love her, but that's the way I feel. Season 2 she started hurting people-her family, commiting genocide. This is also when she became dependent on the Doctor even though in Season 1 she was independent. I'm sorry but I love Season 1 Rose alot better than Season 2-onwards Rose. She started as independent and caring and she was helping the
@SasuSakufan109 Doctor, but then at the end of Season 1 from then on she was commiting genocide, weilding big guns, being cruel to people, laughing in Daleks faces about commiting genocide, she was dependent on the Doctor...and a whole bunch of others things. I will always love Rose, but sometimes you need to accept that your favorite characters have flaws. She did help the Doctor, but to an extent and her aiding him did nothing for noone.
@SasuSakufan109 By the time she left he didn't stay a better person. In Season 2 he started to become worse. Him and Rose would just travel around and not care who got hurt or who was killed as long as they could be together. That's not right. Then when he lost Rose :( he became even crueler than he already was. He was horrible to Martha. This is where I'd like to think that if Rose did meet Martha she would defend her from what the Doctor did, but who knows.
@SasuSakufan109 I have had plenty of relationships before and I know how hard it is to lose someone, but I also learned that it's not right to take out your anger and pain upon someone else. That's no excuse. All I can say is I'm so happy that Martha and the Doctor will never see eachother again (or hopefully not) because I never want to see Martha being treated like that again. Let's just be thankful that's she with other people who will all be kind to her and take care
@SasuSakufan109 of her, unlike the Doctor. Martha wasn't in love with the Doctor. She got over him. Freema and David both said this on the confidentials. She wasn't in love with him because love lasts forever. Martha however got over him meaning that it was just a crush. I think that if I really did beleive she could fall in love with someone that treated her like that I'd have zero respect for her. If she is going to fall in love with abusive men then she's better off with the Master.
@SasuSakufan109 Then everyone could be happy. I hope you don't think I'm being rude because I don't mean it to sound that way. I mean I love the Doctor and Rose both, but I just don't like the Doctor around Martha and I don't like how Rose kept getting crueler as time went on. I like how Season 1 Rose was independent and cared more about her family than anything else and she stood in front of a dalek to stop the Doctor from killing it. I liked her alot better
@SasuSakufan109 compared to Season 1 finale onwards Rose that killed the entire dalek race, cheered on the genocide of the Ood, wanted to leave her family behind for the Doctor(could you imagine what that would do to her mother? Rose didn't even seem to care), carried around big guns, and clung on to the Doctor and chased after him like a clingy girlfriend. I feel bad about writing this stuff about Rose, but I had to explain it so you could understand where I'm coming from.
@SasuSakufan109 I'm just going to say that I would have loved Rose's season 2 ending alot better if she had told the Doctor she's going to go with her family to the alternate univere and then Jackie looked sad, but stepped up and told Rose to go with the Doctor because she knows how much Rose loves him. That would have been a fantastic ending, but with the way they really ended season 2 it made Rose seem dependent and selfish. Dependent isn't such a bad thing because when you are in love
@SasuSakufan109 you are dependent on that other person, but I mean she was dependent in a bad way. She needed the Doctor to save her and I didn't like that. I like Rose who was running off doing everything herself in season 1. Well back then she still needed the Doctor to save her, but really in 'Dalek' her kindness and empathy is really what saved her and in the one episode she went after Gwenyth and Mr Sneede(?) to try and stop them from hurting the woman and she defended Gwenyth
@SasuSakufan109 from the Doctor in that episode. I just like Season 1 Rose better. I hope you don't think I'm being mean or putting Rose down because I love her, but I just had to explain why I feel the way I do about the Doctor & Rose. I love the two of them really I do. I'm sorry, I meant to say the Doctor was no good for Rose, not the other way around. Well maybe I meant that Rose was bad for him because she let him have all the power in their relationship and she changed herself for him
@SasuSakufan109 and maybe that is why I said that. The Doctor was no good for Rose though. you know how Rory told the doctor that he's a bad influence for people? I don't remember exactly what Rory said, but it was something along the lines of 'people get hurt trying to impress you' and this is how I feel about Rose. Rose commiting genocide-I think she did that because she knew the Doctor did it, or tried to do it so she copied it and it made her character go bad. Then in
@SasuSakufan109 Season 2 she really went out of her way to impress the Doctor and this is what flawed her badly. She was always trying to handle the situation the way he would and it was bad. She started comming genocide to solve problems and leaving behind people that cared about her even though it was selfish(another thing the Doctor always did. She started to become like the Doctor and it destroyed her. Season 1 Rose went against what the Doctor did.
@SasuSakufan109 She knew between wrong and right and she stood up to him for the right thing. She was REALLY REALLY good for him. He needed someone like that. Then season 2 came and she never stood up to him like that again. She didn't defend the innocent or do any of the heroic things that kept him in line before. He made her go bad. It was kind of heart breaking that she let him destroy her like that. Martha was just as bad. In Journey's End she tried blowing up the Earth
@SasuSakufan109 so she could save the rest of the universe from what Davros had planned. He couldn't go through with his plans if he didn't have all the planets. She followed what the Doctor had done: He tried to blow up Gallifrey to save the rest of the universe from the Daleks. She was trying to be helpful and save everyone, but by following in the Doctor's footsteps she was doing wrong. See? Rory was right. Davros was right. The Doctor turns people into weapons.
@SasuSakufan109 It's all there in the story. Martha and Rose, and all the other companions became like the Doctor and in RTD'd opinion that isn't a good thing. Rose and Martha, ext all became bad people. It was sad to see how they started out so innocent and caring and it ended like that. That's why I have to tip my hat to Donna. In the end of Journey's End, she didn't kill her opponents. She stopped them, but she didn't kill them and that was the right thing to do.
@SasuSakufan109 I am not being sarcastic about these apologies either I really am sorry for the mean things I wrote about the characters, but it's true and that is the way I think and feel about the whole situation. The Doctor was a bad influence on everyone, but in a whole different way he was a great influence on them(or maybe they just learned by themselves). Martha became dependent and strong not because of the influence the Doctor had on her,
@SasuSakufan109 but because he acted like he hated her and constantly made her fend for herself, she actually learned how to be independent and heroic all by herself. She would have never gotten there without the doctor. As for the whether Martha or Rose made him a better person. Like I said Rose did to an extent, but let's say Rose is the one who made him the better person and Martha made him a better person and made him stay that way. It was a team effort! :)
@SasuSakufan109 Notice how when he loses Rose, he commits genocide, but when he loses Martha he let's the adipose go. Even Donna who is with him both times points it out to him in Partners in Crime. "That's a change from last time. That Martha must have done you good." Of course, Martha's innocence had to be sacrificed for this epiphany of the Doctor's, but it's not like he gave a damn. Oh well. I do love all the Doctors and his companions still. Regardless of everything that happened.
@SasuSakufan109 Still crossing my fingers for a Rose & Martha episode. For the record, I love all the characters but there are just some things that they do that disappoint me. As for Donna, I think she was the best with the Doctor because she wasn't one of the companions that felt she had to impress him and they even say this in the confidentials. That's why she was so great for him. She knew between wrong and right and she stuck with it and told the Doctor off when he needed it
@SasuSakufan109 and that is the kind of companion the Doctor needs. Rose and Martha, ext were always trying to prove themselves and trying to be like him, but the Doctor needs someone like Donna. It always makes me happy that Donna stayed good to the very end too. Though I was disappointed in her for killing the wasp. I am so SO sorry for the huge message. If you just want me to send it to you in a letter to make it easier to read just ask. : )
@SasuSakufan109 she did help him and she suffered for nothing because of him. I love all the companions and I just have to put that on every comment so people don't don't think I'm saying anything out of spite. I love Rose, but that's how I feel about her. Donna did good with keeping the Doctor in line and she was the best FOR the Doctor. Martha was the best WITHOUT the Doctor. He was cruel enough to her so I NEVER want to see her and the Doctor together again.
@SasuSakufan109 Martha's too good for him. He is a nice person when he is around Donna and Amy and ext but I just never want to see him around Martha again. She deserves better. I long for the day when Donna and Rose cme back to smack him with a rolled up newspaper for the way he treated martha. I know they would be p*ssed if they knew of the stuff the Doctor did to Martha. Anyway love all of the companions and yes Donna was the best for the Doctor so I agree.
I love Jessica in this, but then I love Jessica in just about everything. Even though I'm a silly American, I saw "Spaced" and loved every minute of it. Seeing her in this was just great, and she's so good at dramatic roles, just as good as she is at comedy. I really wish she could have gone along as a Companion, but that probably would have been impractical. Pity that.
I adore his astonished face.
WeepingAngel94 4 months ago
The stairs. They're right behind you!
Ppppinkland 9 months ago
lol poor david i hope hes alright lol
Punkrock3011 1 year ago
I just looked through how many comments I left and I feel terrible. I am just going to send it in a letter to make it easier fo you to read. So check your private messages.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 How was Rose ever bad?
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I love Rose. I didn't say she was bad.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Are you mad at me? I thought it would take you a while to read my letter, but you still didn't reply back yet, Is everything okay?
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Im not mad ofc not its only a show I read it =) but by the time I was done I didn't really care about The cotor Martha Donna Rose What ever I am finding that everyone takes the bashing the liking way to serious and its no fun anymore I cant even comment on Martha videos because Im a Rose fan And theres nothing wrong with that. I liked all the companions but No your not aloud to have a faverout companion so it seems
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Wow it's been a long time. Hey! You commented on that other video and were mean to Martha!!! I thought you liked her? You can like Rose all you want, but you don''t have to bash Martha for Rose to be your favorite. I love Rose, but I don't have to bash Martha, Donna, or River or anyone like all of you do.
"haha the doctor is still head over heels with rose =) Muahaha take that Martha" That's not acceptable. There was nothing funny about how the Doctor abused Martha.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Especially in this episode where he abandons her the moment he forces her to wear that Maid's Pinny. It's 1913-- white men had brown skinned sisters, half-sisters, nieces, and even daughters--so the writers kind failed their young audience here. Yeah, people would have talked but they were probably already talking about Smith traveling alone with his pretty dark complexioned maid but detrementally about Martha's character. It was not acceptable. Bravo.
Bobsyermomsuncle 10 months ago
@Bobsyermomsuncle I didn't even know that he could have said she was a niece or something. That takes the abuse to a whole new level. I can't say I'm surprised though. What gets me worked up is that all these people hate Marth and bash her when she is the victim in all this and gets abused by the Doctor all the time, but everyone just seems to be alright with it because he's the Doctor so it's okay. Well, it's not okay. I used to think the world of the Doctor until he did this. I don't know
Meangrl19 10 months ago
@Bobsyermomsuncle why everyone thinks it's so funny about a woman getting abused, to be honest, but I know it sickens me and has made me lose all my faith in humanity these past couple months. If peoples attidues towards this kind of behavior are this way with fictional people I'd hate for them to be around when someone gets abused in real life. It frightens me, honestly. Anyway, thanks for backing
Meangrl19 10 months ago
@Bobsyermomsuncle me up. It certainly wasn't acceptable and I don't know why all these young girls think the Doctor abusing Martha is funny. That was nothing funny about what he put her through.
Meangrl19 10 months ago
I Kind of feel bad for Martha in this episode
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I feel bad for Martha in every episode. He's cruel to her.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 I still cant blame him though even though theres no exscuse on how he treated her I think this doctor really shows how living to long and lossing people and yeah I liked martha but I like Rose the best =p
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 The first couple of time I watched the episode I justified what the Doctor did to her because I was sympathising with him, but when you try to see it from Martha's point of view you realize how cruel he actually was to her. Not to mention how cruel all the fans are to her. I like Rose too, but what did that have to do with anything? Just because we like Rose doesn't mean we should be okay with the way he treated Martha.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 If Rose was there she would have slapped him everytime he talked down to Martha the way he did. Even at the end of this episode he doesn't apologise to Martha for the way he treated her. So unfortunatley I do blame him. I love him, just not around her. She deserves to be treated better. It's too bad we never got to see Rose and Martha traveling together. Rose would have been kind to Martha, nothing like how the Doctor treated her.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Ohh Yeah I totally Agree and your he didnt even say sorry >< It was so sad seeing her run back and forth to the tardis and re watching the video To bad they didnt do an episode of them travelling together I would REALLY love to see Rose come back =p
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 And if you think about it The only companion if the 11th Doctor ever wanted to travel with any of the 10th companions it would have to be Martha because the 2 others were well You know... Sad =(
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Martha leavingwas also sad but you know what I mean
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I'm glad you agree. Yeah, he never apologised to poor Martha. That's alright I still love her and I'll take good care of her, unlike him. Atleast Martha learned to be strong by herself and it was great that she found out she didn't need him and she kept saving everyone by herself. She was amazing! I really, really want to see an episode of Rose and Martha traveling together! I don't even care if the Doctor is there or not, I just want to see those two working together.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 They'd be an amazing team! Martha was always kind of Doctor like. Rose runs on the instincts while Martha sticks with what she knows, just like the Doctor so they'd be a great team and they wouldn't really need him for that episode. Maybe they can save him together or something. Although since the end of Season 3 Martha has run on both instincts and what she knows, but oh well her and Rose would still be great together.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 As for Martha traveling with the Doctor again, No thanks. Not unless Rose is there and she tells the Doctor off for being mean to Martha. Actually it seems like she would be telling both Doctors off for being mean to Martha because you know he would still be rude to her if she came back. Sorry, but I don't want it to be final for Donna either. Bring her back too while we're at it! I want to see her slap him for erasing her memory and leaving her behind!
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Actually picture Donna Comeing and doing that would actually be Really funny hahahahahahahaha thoug it would be great for Donna to be back Donna was great but rose Was better hehe
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I could picture Donna doing that and Amy would get along with all the girls.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Donna was a good character she was what the doctor needed (in my opinon) a companion to travel with to stop him like the episode of pempei or that episode with the bee's and the satarins the right companion for the right time what do you think? (hahaha Rose is still better though I have to mention this everytime I make a comment on another companion lawl)
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 In my opinion Donna was the one the Doctor needed because she was a good person to the very end. Martha was great, but she could have died and the Doctor would have neither cared or noticed. So Martha was great for he Doctor, but it was just entirely his fault that she couldn't help him. When she did help him actually, but by that time that the Doctor finally realised how important she was, she left. So that was his fault.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Rose was a good person and then turned bad and made the Doctor evil and cruel so she was no good for him and I say this as a fan of Doctor/Rose, but sorry they were no good for eachother. They made eachother cruel and horrible people. Martha made the Doctor a better person and then Donna kept him a better person. I'm sure Donna could have made the Doctor a better person without Martha's help, but you know credit's due to Martha since
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 Well you must have had a relationship before it takes awhile to get over someone espaicly someone that came along to help get through the other events that had happend when Rose met the doctor he was already at a bad place but rose helped him changed Yes sure that doesnt give the doctor an exscuse for him treating martha badly but at the same time I dont think he wanted to lead her on but the main point is he just lost the love of his life(quoted by dt himself) and he
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@Meangrl19 was trying his best to let Martha in but as the which says "his heart grows cold" The Doctor Losing the Time Lords and losing Rose add on to burden to burden to burden to carry yes Martha was great but at the time I think the doctor didnt need someone to be in love with him And I like all the companions but I disagree how Rose was bad for him because Rose was the one that kept him going
SasuSakufan109 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Season 1 Rose was good for him. She was independent and empathetic. At the end of season 1, Rose started her commiting genocide phase and carrying big guns around. The doctor despised Martha and Jack for being in UNIT/Torchwood and he is the one who got Martha the job at UNIT in the first place so I don't know what that was about. He also yelled at them for having
guns when Martha didn't even carry one. It just seemed like Rose was allowed
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 to get away with everything she did wrong. Please don't think I'm 'dissing' Rose because I'm not. I love her, but that's the way I feel. Season 2 she started hurting people-her family, commiting genocide. This is also when she became dependent on the Doctor even though in Season 1 she was independent. I'm sorry but I love Season 1 Rose alot better than Season 2-onwards Rose. She started as independent and caring and she was helping the
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Doctor, but then at the end of Season 1 from then on she was commiting genocide, weilding big guns, being cruel to people, laughing in Daleks faces about commiting genocide, she was dependent on the Doctor...and a whole bunch of others things. I will always love Rose, but sometimes you need to accept that your favorite characters have flaws. She did help the Doctor, but to an extent and her aiding him did nothing for noone.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 By the time she left he didn't stay a better person. In Season 2 he started to become worse. Him and Rose would just travel around and not care who got hurt or who was killed as long as they could be together. That's not right. Then when he lost Rose :( he became even crueler than he already was. He was horrible to Martha. This is where I'd like to think that if Rose did meet Martha she would defend her from what the Doctor did, but who knows.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I have had plenty of relationships before and I know how hard it is to lose someone, but I also learned that it's not right to take out your anger and pain upon someone else. That's no excuse. All I can say is I'm so happy that Martha and the Doctor will never see eachother again (or hopefully not) because I never want to see Martha being treated like that again. Let's just be thankful that's she with other people who will all be kind to her and take care
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 of her, unlike the Doctor. Martha wasn't in love with the Doctor. She got over him. Freema and David both said this on the confidentials. She wasn't in love with him because love lasts forever. Martha however got over him meaning that it was just a crush. I think that if I really did beleive she could fall in love with someone that treated her like that I'd have zero respect for her. If she is going to fall in love with abusive men then she's better off with the Master.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Then everyone could be happy. I hope you don't think I'm being rude because I don't mean it to sound that way. I mean I love the Doctor and Rose both, but I just don't like the Doctor around Martha and I don't like how Rose kept getting crueler as time went on. I like how Season 1 Rose was independent and cared more about her family than anything else and she stood in front of a dalek to stop the Doctor from killing it. I liked her alot better
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 compared to Season 1 finale onwards Rose that killed the entire dalek race, cheered on the genocide of the Ood, wanted to leave her family behind for the Doctor(could you imagine what that would do to her mother? Rose didn't even seem to care), carried around big guns, and clung on to the Doctor and chased after him like a clingy girlfriend. I feel bad about writing this stuff about Rose, but I had to explain it so you could understand where I'm coming from.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I'm just going to say that I would have loved Rose's season 2 ending alot better if she had told the Doctor she's going to go with her family to the alternate univere and then Jackie looked sad, but stepped up and told Rose to go with the Doctor because she knows how much Rose loves him. That would have been a fantastic ending, but with the way they really ended season 2 it made Rose seem dependent and selfish. Dependent isn't such a bad thing because when you are in love
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 you are dependent on that other person, but I mean she was dependent in a bad way. She needed the Doctor to save her and I didn't like that. I like Rose who was running off doing everything herself in season 1. Well back then she still needed the Doctor to save her, but really in 'Dalek' her kindness and empathy is really what saved her and in the one episode she went after Gwenyth and Mr Sneede(?) to try and stop them from hurting the woman and she defended Gwenyth
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 from the Doctor in that episode. I just like Season 1 Rose better. I hope you don't think I'm being mean or putting Rose down because I love her, but I just had to explain why I feel the way I do about the Doctor & Rose. I love the two of them really I do. I'm sorry, I meant to say the Doctor was no good for Rose, not the other way around. Well maybe I meant that Rose was bad for him because she let him have all the power in their relationship and she changed herself for him
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 and maybe that is why I said that. The Doctor was no good for Rose though. you know how Rory told the doctor that he's a bad influence for people? I don't remember exactly what Rory said, but it was something along the lines of 'people get hurt trying to impress you' and this is how I feel about Rose. Rose commiting genocide-I think she did that because she knew the Doctor did it, or tried to do it so she copied it and it made her character go bad. Then in
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Season 2 she really went out of her way to impress the Doctor and this is what flawed her badly. She was always trying to handle the situation the way he would and it was bad. She started comming genocide to solve problems and leaving behind people that cared about her even though it was selfish(another thing the Doctor always did. She started to become like the Doctor and it destroyed her. Season 1 Rose went against what the Doctor did.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 She knew between wrong and right and she stood up to him for the right thing. She was REALLY REALLY good for him. He needed someone like that. Then season 2 came and she never stood up to him like that again. She didn't defend the innocent or do any of the heroic things that kept him in line before. He made her go bad. It was kind of heart breaking that she let him destroy her like that. Martha was just as bad. In Journey's End she tried blowing up the Earth
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 so she could save the rest of the universe from what Davros had planned. He couldn't go through with his plans if he didn't have all the planets. She followed what the Doctor had done: He tried to blow up Gallifrey to save the rest of the universe from the Daleks. She was trying to be helpful and save everyone, but by following in the Doctor's footsteps she was doing wrong. See? Rory was right. Davros was right. The Doctor turns people into weapons.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 It's all there in the story. Martha and Rose, and all the other companions became like the Doctor and in RTD'd opinion that isn't a good thing. Rose and Martha, ext all became bad people. It was sad to see how they started out so innocent and caring and it ended like that. That's why I have to tip my hat to Donna. In the end of Journey's End, she didn't kill her opponents. She stopped them, but she didn't kill them and that was the right thing to do.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 I am not being sarcastic about these apologies either I really am sorry for the mean things I wrote about the characters, but it's true and that is the way I think and feel about the whole situation. The Doctor was a bad influence on everyone, but in a whole different way he was a great influence on them(or maybe they just learned by themselves). Martha became dependent and strong not because of the influence the Doctor had on her,
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 but because he acted like he hated her and constantly made her fend for herself, she actually learned how to be independent and heroic all by herself. She would have never gotten there without the doctor. As for the whether Martha or Rose made him a better person. Like I said Rose did to an extent, but let's say Rose is the one who made him the better person and Martha made him a better person and made him stay that way. It was a team effort! :)
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Notice how when he loses Rose, he commits genocide, but when he loses Martha he let's the adipose go. Even Donna who is with him both times points it out to him in Partners in Crime. "That's a change from last time. That Martha must have done you good." Of course, Martha's innocence had to be sacrificed for this epiphany of the Doctor's, but it's not like he gave a damn. Oh well. I do love all the Doctors and his companions still. Regardless of everything that happened.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Still crossing my fingers for a Rose & Martha episode. For the record, I love all the characters but there are just some things that they do that disappoint me. As for Donna, I think she was the best with the Doctor because she wasn't one of the companions that felt she had to impress him and they even say this in the confidentials. That's why she was so great for him. She knew between wrong and right and she stuck with it and told the Doctor off when he needed it
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 and that is the kind of companion the Doctor needs. Rose and Martha, ext were always trying to prove themselves and trying to be like him, but the Doctor needs someone like Donna. It always makes me happy that Donna stayed good to the very end too. Though I was disappointed in her for killing the wasp. I am so SO sorry for the huge message. If you just want me to send it to you in a letter to make it easier to read just ask. : )
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 she did help him and she suffered for nothing because of him. I love all the companions and I just have to put that on every comment so people don't don't think I'm saying anything out of spite. I love Rose, but that's how I feel about her. Donna did good with keeping the Doctor in line and she was the best FOR the Doctor. Martha was the best WITHOUT the Doctor. He was cruel enough to her so I NEVER want to see her and the Doctor together again.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
@SasuSakufan109 Martha's too good for him. He is a nice person when he is around Donna and Amy and ext but I just never want to see him around Martha again. She deserves better. I long for the day when Donna and Rose cme back to smack him with a rolled up newspaper for the way he treated martha. I know they would be p*ssed if they knew of the stuff the Doctor did to Martha. Anyway love all of the companions and yes Donna was the best for the Doctor so I agree.
Meangrl19 1 year ago
BADASS MARTHA.
Love her to bits :D Poor Doctor, but he totally had it coming.
RedbirdSims 1 year ago 4
she tried to warn him and she loves him
torchwoodandunit 1 year ago 2
"oooo, but it hurts!" LOL
doctorwho415 2 years ago 2
So, the Doctor has been conquered by a flight of stairs...
OMG HE'S A DALEK! loltastic
SingularSensation1 2 years ago 5
@SingularSensation1 i tip my hat to you fine lady.
DarkestHeart266 1 year ago
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SingularSensation1 2 years ago
Ironic that Martha is a doctor, more qualified than Joan - but no one knows that - including the Doctor (John).
imaof4 2 years ago 4
Sorry..ill just... tidy things :P
IXIrandomIXIgirlIXI 2 years ago 2
that hat!!! killer!!!!
CrazyGood88 2 years ago 2
I love Jessica in this, but then I love Jessica in just about everything. Even though I'm a silly American, I saw "Spaced" and loved every minute of it. Seeing her in this was just great, and she's so good at dramatic roles, just as good as she is at comedy. I really wish she could have gone along as a Companion, but that probably would have been impractical. Pity that.
RoguePlanet 3 years ago 2
lets bash up joan
THEOogalieBoogalie 3 years ago
lol i actually dont mind her much.... if you think of john as a separate entity from the doctor.XD I dont like how she treats martha though. =P
ooutroaccount 3 years ago
lol marthra funny
danza10193 3 years ago
Yeah, I was never her greatest fan but that was pretty awesome. ^^
NitrateDream 2 years ago
omg
thats funny
danza10193 3 years ago 2
it was a conspiracy! she was trying to kill him!
randomzax 3 years ago 13
Lol. Poor Doc, never saw it coming.
skan36787 4 years ago 8
I loved this part and knew he was going to fall! Poor Doctor.
spikelilgirl 4 years ago 5
The doctor fumbling over how to ask a woman to a dance. Oy vey!
boilerboy 4 years ago 4